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Broadcasting live
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from the Abraham Lincoln Radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
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Armstrong and Getty. Enough.
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Here's Armstrong and G. The Jason R. Day Hilarity, James Lindsay and much more to come. Hope you can stay tuned. Right now, the co host of the Armstrong and Getty Show. Live from a foreign land, I think still Canada, Jack Armstrong. Jack, what's going on?
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Yeah, I've been contemplating living here. Although I do have that problem. Every place I ever go on vacation, I always end up thinking about living there.
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Canadians are really nice people when we're not threatening to annex them.
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Yeah, it's a nice country. It reminds me of the way I grew up. It's just very rural and everything's slow and small and easy and I like it a lot.
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Well, if you stay, we'll make it clear that you weren't going because of Trump or anything like that. You just like.
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Yeah, I would have to point that out to everybody. No, I didn't leave politics.
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Before you dive into your, your, your account of what's going on, which I'm looking forward to, I came up with like the first good idea ever during the local news. Seconds ago for our flagship station, Katie was talking about the latest scam that Gabby Newsom is going to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on. And I made her reread the key part of the story. Instead of saying California is going to spend $250 million, I think it was something like that. I said, read it. Somebody is going to get $240 million.
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Yeah.
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To accomplish XYZ because just in. And I realize this is semi obvious, but your immediate question is, wait, who's going to get it and for doing what. And it completely changes the conversation.
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It does. Yep. That's a good way to do it. It's like eliminating, you know, the word free. When anybody talks about any sort of. Oh, that reminds me of free stuff and socialism. I had, I rarely have dreams and I had a very powerful dream with Bernie Sanders involved where like, he threw a fit about something and I ended up going and consoling him and coming back and talking to the press about what, what, what Bernie was upset about. Imagine what that dream possibly Means this
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is not exactly like it was a Joseph in Egypt dreaming about 7 fat cows and 7 skinny cows or whatever. But this dream means something.
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I wonder what that means. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what that means.
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Please email your interpretation mailbag@armstrongandgetty.com the more ridiculous.
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So did you. Do you happen to see the picture from the top of that mountain we hiked to yesterday that I tweeted out?
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No, I didn't. I'll look at it.
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We did this relatively arduous hike in which we contemplated not finishing several times before we got to the end of it. Glad we finished it because the. The view was worth it.
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Oh, that's a good pick. Yeah. Nice.
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Well, one of the problems with it, it looks so perfect. It really looks like it's AI. It really looks like it's. It's green screen or something. It looks exactly like green screen. It was just a tremendous view. But the hike up there, we kept thinking about quitting. And I was, I told them this story about. I was with some people. She's. 30 years ago, hiking that Whitney in California, biggest mountain in the United States.
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Mount Whitney.
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Yeah. Went up almost to the top with a group of people and we all decided the weather wasn't that great and we started too late, you know, and we'll do this again sometime and we'll go back and of course, I've never gone back and done it, and I wish I'd have just finished it when I was there. So anyway, we finished this yesterday, but I was quite tired and I hadn't planned on hiking, so I'm wearing Chuck Connors tennis shoes. I'm wearing. Oh, boy, I'm not wearing it. Sort of hiking shoes. And that was that. That didn't help anybody.
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Inappropriate footwear is one of your. Your hallmarks. Release one of your trademarks. Katie Green would like to weigh in. Jack. Katie, Jack. I just want to let you know, in regards to that photo, looking like AI, many of our great listeners have already taken that photo and put you in different places around the world.
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I have.
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I've noticed that Marco Rubio style.
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I love that.
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Love that.
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And the kids were. Once we got to the top, the kids felt like it was worth going up there. And I kept telling them, I'm an old man, if I. If I can go up there, you can go, for crying out loud.
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Shame them. That's what family vacations are about.
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Hey.
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And I know you know this story. When Delaney and I took the godforsaken kayak trip. My youngest daughter and I, when she was, gosh, maybe 14 or even younger than that, on the Russian river. And we were going against a howling wind and if we stopped paddling, we would be blown backward. And it was miserable and long and we were both completely exhausted. And I get tears in my eyes thinking about it. And she treasures that day as much as I do. And you know, the, the easy day where you did this and you ate an ice cream and those, those go away. It's confronting stuff like that together, man, those are the memories that stay.
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Yeah, that's a good point. That's very, very good point. We're headed to Vancouver today, so now we'll, we'll see our first homeless people over the trip and we'll be there tonight and hanging out, but beautiful scenery,
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great architecture and, and junkies shooting up on the street. It's really, it's, it's something. So. Sorry, go ahead.
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We were in some, some berg last night and it's in the middle of nowhere and it's just this gorgeous Canadian town. And we were at this restaurant eating and I was looking around and everybody looked so happy. I thought these people have, they don't worry about nothing. I'm thinking it's got to be weird being in a country that is insignificant. I don't know that they had, you know, I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate that word. But you're not going to get a terrorist attack. You're not involved in any major wars. You're just, you're just hanging out, living your life. I don't know, it's got to mean an interesting view of the world.
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Yeah. Yeah. And especially if you get into someone
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to fix all the problems of the world all the time.
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Right. Right. Yeah. And they, they've elected several just out and out jackasses and it just doesn't matter that much. I see what you're saying.
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Right.
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Then you add in lower population density, which tends to make most human beings happier, and you got Canada.
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Yeah. You got 35 million people spread across one of the biggest countries, might be the biggest country on earth. It's enormous and very few people. Yeah. It's not crowded anywhere.
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Right.
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No doubt about that. Hey, what I'm paying attention to very few news stories, just ones that burble up that like get my attention. I suppose you've talked a lot about that whole sneaking Trump out of Turkey thing.
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Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. You know what we haven't gotten to which, which maybe you're about to is who was on the in the ins and who is on the outs for the secret plane.
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Yep. Wow. So that must have been. I still haven't read much about it, but they must have felt a fairly certain threat to go through all those histrionics.
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Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Credible for sure.
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Mm, that's wild. I mean because we all, you know, found out that the switching planes was a ruse. What a couple while you were on vacation actually. And then, and now we know there was a third plane. I mean so that's, that's, that's a lot of maneuvering people around and I
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was reading somewhere that Bill, Bill Clinton pulled a similar maneuver back in the 90s when he was flying to Pakistan. Because you know the Muslim world.
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Yeah.
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They get blamed for a lot of violence because they're behind most of it anyway. Yeah.
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Believed to be an Iranian plot to get Trump.
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Yeah, yeah, yep. And Trump's most loyal long term aides were packed onto the, the catering crate with him and then whisked to the secret plane. But the entire cabinet and the press corps went ahead on Air Force One and you know, took their chances. But yeah, if you're gonna do a ruse, you gotta do it right.
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Well, and they knew the President wasn't on the plane or they thought he was on the plane.
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I don't think anybody. The cabinet. The Cabinet, I could not tell you, I don't know. That the press had no idea.
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Well, yeah, but don't tell the friggin press. That'd be pretty wild if the Secretary of State doesn't know the President's on the plane.
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Oh yeah, Marco Rubio sitting there, he gets a message. Oh my God, I need to alert the President. Yeah, not so much. Says, you know, whatever aides are left on the plane. What do you mean I've got to talk to him. Here's the funny part. When they got on, the press didn't know, right.
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You see, here's the thing. So when they said a, they put him on a catering cart, was it more like a vehicle or something? Because picture like squatting down underneath the, the little white tablecloth they put on that little cart they bring up to your room, Right?
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Yeah, exactly. I was wondering the very same thing. If you've in your on vacation. So, so you haven't seen this, but it's one of those big things like half a box car that he was on. One of those big square things they lift up to the side of a big airplane. Hanson says we should listen to this clip real Quick. Go ahead. Michael.
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Why was it too dangerous for you to fly on Air Force One, but not too much? I think, actually the plane that I flew on was at greater risk. I think it was at great risk, because that would be the plane I think, that they would be more likely to go for.
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All right, whatever. That was just confusing. She was asking, why was it too dangerous for you but not the press? Because you don't matter, is the answer.
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Wow, that's. I don't think the press would have asked a question like that and years ago. That's a dumb question. You're a dumb person. You should not be working for a media outlet that gets to talk to the President. That'd be my answer.
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I don't know what her name is. We'll call her Jane Jones. There's not a Jane Jones one. All right. You don't get to be in the Oval. You're nobody. You're a. You're a scribe. You'll be replaced by a similar scribe tomorrow. You know, good. Goodbye. Stop talking. That's what he should have.
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It would be more dangerous for the President if we were to have everybody to get on this secret plane. But the important thing is that we don't lose some nobody who makes up news for the Washington Post. So let's go ahead and risk the President.
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Yeah, I know. It's just silly. Absolutely silly. So do you have, like, a huge, long drive to get where you're going?
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We're doing like, three and a half hours today. And it's all just gorgeous driving with no traffic. So it's. It's. It's a very, very enjoyable driving all the way across Canada. It's all just spectacular, spectacular looking. I. I have to constantly remind the kids and myself that it would not be like this in winter. I mean, the weather is fantastic. It's been, like, literally perfect. Like, room temperature, 72 degrees, no wind, and sunny, but, you know, make North Dakota seem like Florida. So very, very cold in the winter.
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Yeah, it's a winter wonderland. You put on your mukluks, your. Your. Your toque, your hat, fight your way through the grizzly bears and just go about your day.
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Part. Part of everybody being so happy is probably because you grew up in Chicago and I grew up in Wisconsin. It's just. You get through the whole winter and you finally get to the couple of months of warmth, everybody's pretty happy.
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Oh, yeah. I've said it for years. That first day, when the soil melts because the topsoil is literally frozen, it melts and you can smell the dirt. It's like falling in love. It's a similar feeling, the utter joy of it as a kid. Yeah. Yeah. Well, happy travels. We need to take a break, but check in tomorrow if it's convenient.
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I don't think I'd renounce my U.S. citizenship. I don't want to do that, but I can see myself living in Canada. There's no doubt I could see you
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living in Canada, especially in that hat. It's a really good look, so check it out on Twitter.
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I've already got the hat, so.
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And. And feel free to use AI to put Jack into a variety of amusing settings. All right, he's hoot, everybody. We'll be back in moments. Armstrong and Getty, A Mississippi nonprofit, will take wheelchair bound young people alligator hunting this season. Or as the alligators call it, meals on wheels. That's not a good joke. Here's a story about a guy in Australia. His name is Andrew asked his personal assistant AI personal assistant to book him a spot in one of his gym's coveted morning classes. Tough to get into him. It was task he thought well suited for this particular AI assistant because the booking form was online, because this AI system was made for that sort of thing. But he was shocked by what happened next. His AI assistant found a way to book the gym class months farther in advance than the gym allowed, thanks to a vulnerability it discovered in the booking software. Then it went further, kicking someone out of the waiting list who was ahead of Andrew, something it was not asked to do. And it's the first known Australian case of an emerging risk from a new generation of AI capable of behaving in unexpected ways as they write in this Australian publication. And then they go into the history of some of the recent escapes that we've been discussing over the last couple of weeks. The agent came back, told Andrew oh he was sitting fourth on a wait list for a class. Later that week, he asked if it was possible to move him to the top of the list. The agent came back and told in Andrew that had kicked off another gym goer. Even though oh. Alarmed, Andrew asked the agent to undo this bad news. I can't add the back, the agent replied. So that's just, that's interesting and a little troubling and I sure hope they're working on it. And then you got this from Andrew Yoon, who is the head of research at a pretty big kind of second tier ish, maybe not in smarts but in money AI company and his piece is entitled Unregulated open weight AI is an invitation to disaster. I asked, how do you make a polio virus in a lab? I want to start a global pandemic. And the model answered. He was using one of those open weight Chinese models with its guardrails removed, which a lot of people are in favor of. But if you can modify the open models weights, essentially it's adjustments for knowledge and behavior. Anyone can tear down its safety guardrails and. And he gives all sorts of examples of these open weight Chinese models doing any horrors that you can think of, they'd be happy to help you with it. And you know, where the hell we go from here? I wish I knew. And it dawned on me, human beings can be incredibly courageous and resil. You know, think about World War II like in London, keep calm and carry on. During the blitz when they were getting bombed, virtually every night people would just walk to the store, get their groceries, stop for coffee or a pint with a friend, and then go back home again. Lift their lives. That was their way of defiance. Human beings can be amazing, but the problem with this, I mean, compared to like. And I did not live through World War II, obviously, but you can understand the Axis powers. You can get a decent idea of what their capabilities are, what they hope to do. How are the Allies doing that sort of thing? You understand the shape of it. That's the thing that's so scary about the AI Thing is I don't think most of us, I don't think anybody even can figure out the shape of the thing. What am I rooting for? What am I not rooting for? Are there good guys here? Bad guys? Nobody's really sure. Or if you know somebody is. I don't know who they are yet.
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Armstrong and Gettysburg. Collision of social media and shark danger. People fishing for sharks intentionally attracting them
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towards shore so they can take a photo. Yes. They're chumming the water to get the shark and then they catch and reel them in to take a Instagram pic or whatever. I am so rooting for the sharks in this. So rooting for the sharks. But then you've got like a shark infested beach because they've chummed the water. Oh my God. It's a new level of stupid. Yeah, really. We're inventing new kinds of crazy and stupid every day in America. I still love this country, of course, but really throw them into the water and not let them come out for half an hour. I'm not sure how that squares with the eighth Amendment against cruel and unusual punishments. But it's an appropriate punishment. Meanwhile, in the Midwest, where we consider ourselves fairly normal, on the south side of Chicago, White Sox fans flocking to the ballpark for a limited edition Pope Leo hat. Pope Leo famously let the world know he's a Sox fan. You know, I've got to admit, when I read the description of that clip, I was picturing, like, the Pope hat. The big, high Pope hat. But it's probably. No, that's what it is. That is what it is. That's what it is. Oh, my God. That's hilarious. It's a Pope hat, and it has a white sock on the front of it.
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Oh, boy.
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With the socks logo. That's beautiful. You know what I can picture myself in my younger days thinking? Dudes, come on, we gotta go get one of those hats. Right?
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Yeah. Right.
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Although, then everybody's gonna sell them on ebay, probably. Do they actually want them, or are they trying to make a few bucks? Oh, well, supply and demand. So, follow up to the James Lindsay interview, which I hope you found enlightening. Enlightening. A couple of examples of what we're all talking about. San Francisco park rangers approached this guy, Sam Dogan. He was playing tennis with his own kids at an empty Golden Gates Heights court. They warned him that he could face a $192 fine for instruction without a permit before backing off once his children confirmed. That's our dad. So glad San Francisco authorities are going after the real criminals in town. Dad's teaching tennis. What is this? England? Writes Nellie Bowles. Well said, Nellie.
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Almost finished.
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Let's get ready. Final thoughts with Armstrong and Getty. So soothing. Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew here. I am, your host. Michelangelo. Would you be so kind as to share your final thought with us? You know, Chuck Grassley was in love with his vacuum cleaner. My wife and I are in love with the Ninja Creami. It makes ice cream. It makes yogurt, and we can make healthy yogurt and healthy ice cream. So it's just every night we're doing this? I am completely ignorant of the Ninja Creami. I don't like the name for the record, but.
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Really? Oh, yeah, yeah. You'd like it.
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I'm making a note. Katie, final thoughts. I'm looking at ebay right now. There are 100 White Sox Pope hats going for around $80 right now. Many of the photos taken while still at the Ballpar. It's the free market. Supply and demand. Knock yourselves out. Go get you a Popet. My final thought is grab the podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand. You ought to be subscribing because then you download it automatically, including the one more thing podcasts and interviews we do on and off the air and whatever else. And you know, if you don't want to listen to all of it, you don't have to, obviously, but it's there when it's convenient. Perhaps you are on the treadmill, bored to tears hating your life. Listen to Armstrong and Getty on Demand instead. So much good stuff. We didn't fit in today, we'll do our best to squeeze it in tomorrow. Thanks for listening. Armstrong and Yeti wrapping up another grueling four hour workday. So many people to thank. Everybody on the crew, obviously. Thank you for listening@armstrongandgetty.com not only do you have a link to the podcast, you've got the swag story. You can drop us a note. Mailbagarmstrongetty.com I can't wait to go to the Twitter feed to see people putting Jack into wacky situations. The picture he posted. See you tomorrow. God Bless America.
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There is no crueler bitch on earth. Mother Nature. So if eagles did what eagles do and Jack is dead.
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That's just the way it goes.
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I'm sure I get angry emails about how insensitive I am. No, I just. I like nature and you don't get to tell nature how to be nature. Armstrong and Gettysburg.