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Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty.
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And now here I'm drawing.
Jack Armstrong
Live from Studio C. Say, senor, is
Joe Getty
it little Friday already?
Jack Armstrong
That's very exciting. We're deep within the bowels of the Armstrong and Getty Communications compound. And hey, y', all, we're toiling under
Joe Getty
the title of the show, what is the Democratic Party? Ask the Democratic Party. Or if you'd prefer, what is the Republican Party? Asks the Republican Party. Not that we're going to talk about politics all day, but upheaval is the theme.
Jack Armstrong
Upheaval is the theme.
Joe Getty
That's right.
Jack Armstrong
Here's an interesting thing for you. I didn't know this till this morning when I was watching Legal Experts on the tv. Fauci might actually go to jail. There's a serious chance Fauci's going to end up in jail.
Joe Getty
Do tell.
Jack Armstrong
They're having a contempt hearing right now. And so I was just. Whenever I hear contempt, anything, Congress, whatever, it's just symbolic, meaningless. Who cares? Happens, comes and goes. Yeah. Put it on your resume, I guess. Doesn't matter.
Joe Getty
Usually this carries a
Jack Armstrong
$100,000 fine and you're in jail for not answering any questions when he had a pardon. And apparently there's a tension here. And this is likely to go to the Supreme Court. We got a couple of constitutional rights, intention, the presidential pardon power, and the you've been pardoned, and we're not asking about anything that could cause you to have criminal problems. These are just, you know, things that happened during a big event that you were in charge of. We need information and you're not answering the question. So there's that that somebody will have to figure out. And then the other one is, he did sit down and blast Rand Paul and the committee and then do the Fifth Amendment, which some leg experts say you waived your right by doing the big, you're an SOB Now. I'm not going to answer any questions. You got to do one or the other. You either got to not say nothing or you got to talk.
Joe Getty
If I might interject a note of caution, second note of caution. I read this and it amused me. Somebody said other constitutional experts disagree, which is what they do best. That was rightly entertaining because, yeah, sure enough, you get five lawyers in a room, etc. Etc. But yeah, it's not out of the realm of possibility. And his contention, the more I think about it, that, look, Rand Paul has the red ass for me and he is gonna work like crazy to twist what I say and cite how it's slightly different from something else I said and call that perjury. But you'd never get a conviction for that. He's guilty because he's guilty. But this is so frustrating. I came across an account in the Wall Street Journal, the two lady writers they have on this story, and I only point out their sex because women tend in larger numbers to be more left politically than men. Not uniformly, but tend to be these days. They said, and I'll have the quote in front of me in seconds. They said, oh, what was the quote? You know what? Let me get the exact quote because the words matter. I will be back with that in seconds.
Jack Armstrong
So I wasn't listening to a legal expert on Fox. If I was listening to legal experts on Fox, I would think, of course they're gonna throw out there to the audience that Fauci might go to jail, even if there's a 1 in 8 million chance of it.
Joe Getty
I represent science. Not really.
Jack Armstrong
This guy I saw on News Nation seemed pretty even keel. Not disagreeing with the idea that different legal experts would have a different opinion, but the fact that it could go to the Supreme Court, it just seems to me. So you said he's guilty? Well, guilty of a crime, guilty of. Of lying to people, guilty of bad judgment. What are you talking about? Are you talking about guilty of a crime? I think we gotta. Don't we have to have some sort of system where we get information from a guy who has more information about a giant event than anybody else? Okay, you're pardoned. You're not going to jail. You're not paying any fines. Now tell us what happens so we can make decisions going forward in the world with. With the best information.
Joe Getty
I hate to make this concession, but if it were. I mean, just from a public policy standpoint, if you were to say, all right, look, we'll give you a preemptive pardon against perjury in front of this panel. All right? Now, everything. Give us everything. But the problem is, is I pointed up several, several times, and I'm the only person I've heard civil liability is incomprehensible because he and Eco Health alliance and Peter Dasak funded the gain of function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. And it was sloppy and it escaped the lab and millions of people died. And how is that truth escaping the rest of the media? I don't get it.
Jack Armstrong
So you think he'd be on the hook for that, even though he was doing his government job? He could claim the best I could. As knew how as a scientist.
Joe Getty
Well, even if they went right, there's enough of a case there that it would cost zillions of dollars to defend.
Jack Armstrong
True.
Joe Getty
You think Monsanto spent a lot of money on the roundup nonsense. That place. Place. It would dwarf that. Here is the quote I couldn't find that I wanted. This is in the Wall Street Effing Journal. Pardon me. I'm so fired up about this. Because the humankind has a right to know exactly what happened with COVID Anyway, here's the Journal. Fauci played a central role during the Trump administration's response to the pandemic in 2020, publicly contradicting President Trump at times and urging more public caution than some political figures, which made him an enemy of Trump loyalists.
Jack Armstrong
That's fair.
Joe Getty
And that's why they're holding the hearings, according to the Wall Street Journal. Meanwhile, over on the editorial board, they're saying, you know, roughly what we've been saying, but the, the refusal.
Jack Armstrong
They don't have a paragraph on that particular version where they say his dire entries contradict his public statements 180 degrees.
Joe Getty
No, no, no, don't mention it. They do mention that he's. The HHS, led by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Is a fierce Fauci critic, is leading the charge as well. So it's about Trump urging caution and that crazy RFK Jr. According to the Wall Street Journal. It's absolutely insane. As I started to say, the refusal, slash psychological inability for the mass media to admit that they were wrong in their complicity in the things that were done that were terrible. It will not go away. I've given up on it happening. I was hoping that because of the sheer weight, the importance of all this moving forward as a country and as humanity, it's so important we get this closer to right next time. But no, that is not enough to break through their, their pride or their delusion or whatever it is that keeps them from saying, wow, I got that wrong. Here's how it goes. Wall Street Journal. And let's see. Liz Asley White and Sabrina Siddiqui, who wrote this piece of. I was fooled in the early 2000s by the Bush administration's group think and oversimplification of the challenges in Iraq. They claimed it was one thing, it turned out to be another. And I wish I'd known more because it would have changed my opinion. See, that's how you do it. It's okay. My head didn't explode. My wife didn't leave me. There are not police on my doorstep, as far as I know. You can say that, but these people won't and they disgust me. End of screed.
Jack Armstrong
So Jonathan Turley, he's the law school professor that they always have on Fox, he said, fauci, this area is rather murky. And the Supreme Court has never nailed down the whole can you stay silent under the Fifth Amendment if it's not like they're not trying to get you in a crime, they're just trying to get information about something important that's not been completely nailed down by the Supreme Court. Jonathan Turley says it is murky. It'll probably be challenged. Fauci likely has the advantage in any litigation. So that's a different opinion slightly than the expert I saw on a different channel. And as you said, everybody expert has a different opinion.
Joe Getty
But, and I would love to see Fauci in the stocks, in the public square, being pelted with overripe vegetables.
Guest or Caller
Coronavirus.
Joe Getty
That's right, Dr. Carty. But that's not. That's not my main point, as I've tried to make clear. Yeah, we have to know what happened with the gain of function. The Chinese communist cover up. The fact that Fauci and Dajak are guilty as well of the COVID up and the sponsoring dangerous research. That would be very, very good to know. But as humanity. We need to know what happened.
Jack Armstrong
I think we need to know, did he get more pictures with Beyonce or Bruce Springsteen? I think that's an important issue.
Joe Getty
Well, to him it certainly was. That was the key issue.
Guest or Caller
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
You know, they got his phone now. That's a new. Yes, they have his phone now, so. And also there's. No, not a lot of. I haven't read enough for me on. How'd you get the diary? How'd you know he had a diary? How'd you physically get it?
Joe Getty
Oh, it's because it was on government computers. It was his journal, essentially.
Jack Armstrong
He kept it on the government computer?
Joe Getty
Well, yeah, the term. I don't think I would.
Jack Armstrong
I don't think I would do that.
Joe Getty
Yeah, the term diary is fine. It's accurate. But it was also a journal of public official records of stuff that happened.
Jack Armstrong
But. So if he had a fake alligator skin leather pleather book that he kept under his pillow with a little lock and key and wrote in.
Joe Getty
That's so cute.
Jack Armstrong
If he had one of those, would
Joe Getty
that love the image?
Jack Armstrong
Would that have still been a government record that he had to turn over?
Joe Getty
I don't know the law.
Jack Armstrong
I kind of hope not.
Joe Getty
I don't think so.
Jack Armstrong
I feel like you ought to be able to jot down some memories for yourself that don't automatically have to turn over to the government, but.
Joe Getty
Right, right. Because there's no criminal case going on at this point. It's a government inquiry into government policy.
Jack Armstrong
I assume it's his government phone they have.
Joe Getty
I believe so. Or at least a phone on which he conducted government business. And the record keeping laws are quite clear.
Becca
And.
Joe Getty
And he violated these. Now this is criminal liability. I think I would have lost, Ordered people smash it with a hammer. He specifically ordered people to delete emails after reading, which is against the law. But the government doesn't enforce the law on the government. Except in rare cases.
Jack Armstrong
I would have accidentally dropped my phone behind my rear tire at some point, I think before I would turn my phone.
Joe Getty
It happens. And then back over it a couple of times. Yeah, accidentally.
Jack Armstrong
We better start the show officially. We're running out of time. I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty on this. It is Thursday, August 6, year 2026, where Armstrong and getting. We approve this program.
Joe Getty
Speaking of the law, we're sticklers for it. Let's begin the show officially now according to FCC rules, regs. Here we go at mark. Iran may be behind cyber attacks targeting water and wastewater utilities in more than a dozen states and prepared for them months in advance.
Jack Armstrong
There are some places where they're recommending you boil your water because of these Iranian hacks in the water treatment plants.
Joe Getty
Yeah, that's becoming a problem.
Jack Armstrong
We'll have to talk more about that. In fact, we got more headlines on a whole bunch of different issues. Iran says the Strait's going to be open today and Trump says the Straits going to be open today. That's the first time. That's the first time they both said that on the same day. Peace in our time.
Joe Getty
Straits for everyone.
Jack Armstrong
Lots on the way. Stay here.
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So I know we're supposed to get into headlines, but I think this is interesting. One thing that I think is maybe a blind spot for Trump being a billionaire. Even though he has the greatest common touch of practically any politician in the modern era, as a billionaire, he does, I do think he doesn't understand that many, many people don't pay any attention to what the stock market did. Like tens of millions of people, it might be hundreds, hundred million plus people that pay no attention to what the stock market closed at today. And because he's been doing it probably sitting around the kitchen table with his dad since he was 4, he just assumes that's what everybody does about the stock market. So he, he does so many things to make the stock market go up or down and then can't understand why people are, you know, telling pollsters they think the economy is bad. I based that statement around this. Was that yesterday or today when the stock market set records, It's a lot. We set records. The s&P two days ago said it's 25th record high of the year. The Dow its 22nd record high of the year, and the Nasdaq, it's 24th record high of the year. I mean, that's amazing. But not only in terms of those. If that's the way you look at the economy, that's incredible.
Joe Getty
I think you're more right than you even made the case, though, because you have the significant percentage of Americans who don't follow the market much or at all, and then you've got a pretty significant chunk. And I'll bet a lot of you folks answer to this description. I know I do. Who see these record highs are aware that they're almost entirely fueled by AI and how that's juicing the economy and thinking, oh, man, this feels precarious. So the President citing the record highs falls on your deaf or semi deaf ears, too. You know what I mean?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. You know, and that, that we're in week 31 of the year. So we've had 31 weeks and 25 record highs, 22 record highs, 24 record highs. Practically a record high. More often not. Yeah, every. Every week.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
In those indexes. And I think for Trump, it's like, how can people possibly be saying the economy is bad? Are they not looking at their stock, stock portfolio? No, they're not. They're filling up their gas tank like I am, and it's 240 in California to fill up my diesel tank.
Joe Getty
And then you get $140 and you
Jack Armstrong
can get a couple of groceries and it's three digits.
Joe Getty
I was concerned in Oklahoma, they thought you meant 240 a gallon. $2.40. Yeah. Is anybody else considering getting a shiny new shovel from your big box hardware store and maybe a bunch of gold bars and going into your backyard? It just feels so bubbly. Michael, it's such dark humor. But if you wanted to play the bubbly sound every time we talk about stock market.
Jack Armstrong
I do.
Joe Getty
Like not. I would not argue. I would not yell at you.
Jack Armstrong
I'd like that as a theme because it's going to happen. And then we'll look. SM predicted it every single time.
Joe Getty
There it is. There's your market report.
Jack Armstrong
Uber is up against thousands of lawsuits right now. 4,000 lawsuits. A lot of sexual assault, sexual harassment sort of stuff that is going to upend that company. And they're going to spend a lot of time fighting battles in the courtroom. Maybe we can get into that a little bit later.
Joe Getty
Employ a bunch of randos. You're going to get some rando results.
Jack Armstrong
The Washington Post is reporting and you never know what the WaPo because they had lots of Russia, Russia, Russia stuff that was not true for many years. But Washington Post is reporting that Trump and Hegseth got into it the other day at Camp David over the whole Trump saying to Hegseth, what's the deal? How are we out of munitions? Why didn't you tell me this? Why am I not aware of the fact that we were this low and all these different sorts of things to defend ourselves? This is around the story. Axios and others reporting that one of the reasons Trump called off the big attack over the weekend was finding out we ain't got a lot of defense stuff left. Whether that's true or not, I don't know. We've talked to some people who said, no, that's not true. It's horrifying. It is. If we actually had to back down to Iran because we don't have enough stuff left to defend ourselves the way we think we need to, that's a horrifying situation.
Joe Getty
It is. I also read an account in the Free Press that said the, what do they call them, constrainer wing of the advisors, including J.D. vance, are really pushing that story out to the media because they want that as an excuse not to finish the job in Iran or, you know, prolong the conflict. Who knows what's true?
Jack Armstrong
J.D. could have been behind the crowd that talked to the Washington Post about that story because the White House denies that it happened at all.
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Jack Armstrong
For people that they can.
Becca
They.
Jack Armstrong
They can afford housing in Berkeley. I don't know how that. Well, my understanding is that the property owners who have properties there choose just
Joe Getty
not to rent it at all.
Becca
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Kill them. Kill those mothers and murder those mothers in the street. Let the streets. Let the streets soak in their red capitalist bloods. Maybe we just need like that little. That second half there. Kill them. Kill the MFers. Let them soak in the capitalist blood. Because we need a drop for Hassan Piker every time his name comes up on the show between now and November.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Because I can't believe. I mean, we're less than 24 hours in. Not going to belabor this because we talked about it a lot yesterday. The whole socialist thing in the.
Joe Getty
I'm going to labor the hell out of it. Okay. Burden are going to think, boy, he's really belaboring that.
Jack Armstrong
But I can't believe that every single person who has come out and said, I back El Sayed hasn't had to account for that. The guy was on stage the night before with Hassan Piker, the dude that just said, let the streets run with capitalist blood. Yes. Do you get away. Are we to a point where you can say that and you don't have to.
Joe Getty
Clearly, you don't have to make a
Jack Armstrong
statement of whether or not you support
Joe Getty
that position or not.
Jack Armstrong
That's crazy.
Guest or Caller
On the left.
Joe Getty
Yes.
Jack Armstrong
Holy cow. So I just, I think that's got to be a focal point. Point I. I should have to get. If El Sayed wants to become a senator for Michigan, he should have to distance himself completely from this guy. Or Hasan Piker would have to come out and say, look, as in the pack. I'm like Dan Bongino, you know, and the Epstein files. I'm just saying stuff to get rich. And I did. I don't mean that at all. Right. You know, or something.
Joe Getty
Or what's his face with those frogs? Two sets of genitals.
Becca
Right.
Joe Getty
Alex Jones. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's just an act, your honor. He said when it was all online. But some people still believe him. So I want to make one thing infinitely clear. And Michael, I will yell at you over this.
Jack Armstrong
That's something to look forward to.
Joe Getty
A carefully constructed, historically sound reference to the Chancellor of Germany in the 1930s and 40s should not earn the Hitler Day. Okay, the Democrats, and this will be my final topic. Then we can move on to. I'm sorry, my final comment. Then we can move on to a bunch of other headlines. The relationship between the Democratic Party and the DSA and the nutjobs like Hasan Piker to their left, to the radical left reminds me so much of the conservative establishment in Weimar Germany and what they thought of the Nazi party and Hitler specifically and how they thought he was a kukula nut job. But then he started to make incursions into the group that usually kind of supported them. And then they thought, wow, that's really supplying energy to the right in general. So, yeah, why don't we kind of put our arm around him because we can control them. That won't be a problem. And before they knew it, their whole thing was taken over by the nutjob and is super energized. Radical little movement happens over and over again in history.
Jack Armstrong
See Trump.
Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah. Not nearly as toxic in my opinion. But you know, certainly MSNBC would disagree. But anyway, and I made this point the other day and I think it may be one of the most important ones that I can make. We in America think we're immune to everything bad. We think because we're so successful and our institutions are so strong, there's no disease that can threaten us. Arthur Brooks, who writes for the Free Press, he's a professor of psychology, writes about happiness a lot. He's writing a really thought provoking column these days for the Free Press. His piece today is something like, hey, don't worry about the Democratic socialists. It's a fad like every other political fad that's come and gone in America and the blindness of people like Arthur Brooks. And I want to write a reply to his column cuz I think it's important, but I have a tea time this afternoon.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know, you'd like to weigh in on the issues of the nation in a critical time, but you do have a tea time. So I understand.
Joe Getty
I'd like to save America, but I got a tea time anyway. What I want to point out to him is there has never been a political movement that could count on the incredibly fertile soil of we let our schools be taken over by that ideology. Now for a couple of generations of kids, they have been learning that ideology in our freaking schools. That's not been the case in the past. This is a new situation. And Saying, well, I remember in the 60s with the hippies, and that kind of went away. Oh, my God, you people are blind. All right, I said I'd wrap it up. I've wrapped it up. Elon Musk attacked the moon for some
Jack Armstrong
reason, me and me having just invested in Elon.
Joe Getty
Oh, you fool. Stray. SpaceX rocket booster slammed in the moon at roughly 5,400 miles per hour, carving out a crater that could be 100ft wide and 16ft deep, according to moon crater estimating scientists.
Jack Armstrong
Okay, so we had this story Monday before it happened, saying it was going to happen. So it's happened now. And could you see it because there was some belief that you were going to be able to see it from. If you had a telescope.
Joe Getty
It was. The impact was confirmed through a debris plume spotted by a telescoping Chile. I have no idea whether it was like a $79 Best Buy telescope or something that cost $40 million. I do not know. Scientists say this is a rare opportunity to. And you want to talk about your niche fields. Study how the lunar surface responds to Coll.
Jack Armstrong
Ah, I was gonna get into that area.
Joe Getty
What do you want to be when you grow up, Johnny? A cowboy? A baseball player?
Jack Armstrong
I want to study lunar surface collisions.
Joe Getty
Well, good luck, son.
Jack Armstrong
Do you have any of those apps? Because I was using mine last night. It's on my mind. Where they tell you what all the stars are.
Joe Getty
Yes, I do.
Jack Armstrong
I have the sky plus app. That thing is so cool. God, I would have loved that as a kid. And when I'm not. When I'm walking at night and the stars start coming out and I wonder, what's that? What's that? What's that?
Becca
That?
Jack Armstrong
And you hold up your phone and it's just. It names them all.
Tony Ayo
It's just.
Jack Armstrong
It's awesome. That is Venus or whatever. It's fantastic.
Joe Getty
I was taking a walk the other night and I said to my buddy, look, it's Uranus. Which, wow, confused him freely. Michael, it was just. It was hanging there.
Jack Armstrong
I know why you had to do it.
Joe Getty
I had to pick it.
Jack Armstrong
Uranus was hanging there like a ripe plum.
Joe Getty
That is unfortunate. No, see, that's. No, no. You know what? I opened the door. I have no one to blame but myself. Anyway, yeah, those apps are super, super cool.
Becca
Yeah.
Joe Getty
Love them. Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Do you get into the animals? I don't. I turn off the mythology stuff. I'm not into that. The fact that the Greeks were so bored because they didn't have Netflix that they would take three stars and Turn that into an archer. I just, I don't get into that.
Joe Getty
Yeah, my wife and I are practically fanatical about crossword puzzles. And they're the clues or the answers are constantly, you know, some Greek God or some Roman God who was the daughter of Zeus. And I'm like, I don'.
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Jack Armstrong
Athena. I don't know.
Joe Getty
And, and if you want to say, well, it actually shows the blah, blah, blah, and it indicates humanity's long held zabadabadoo. Okay, you know what? I find that sort of stuff mildly interesting. But I'm not an ancient Roman. I don't think it applies.
Jack Armstrong
There's a lot of that in the Odyssey.
Joe Getty
In the what?
Jack Armstrong
The Odyssey, the new movie.
Joe Getty
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I.
Jack Armstrong
So I understand the one with Spider Man. Spider Man's in the Odyssey.
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Just to follow up on what we started this hour with, the Senate panel did just vote along party lines, of course, because that's how we do everything in the modern era to hold Dr. Anthony Fauci in contempt of Congress. Whether that turns out to be a meaningless symbolic gesture that disappears into history or he ends up in jail, I don't know. I know how. I would bet. Usually meaningless symbolic gesture.
Joe Getty
Yeah. A couple more quick headlines. A Republican who is running for Reelection for the House in North Carolina has dropped out after evidently he was creeping out on his young female staffers. Allegedly. And so he's dropped the Miller character, who may well be a wife and child abuser and unfit to serve according to his father in law. The US Senator is still hanging on.
Jack Armstrong
Wow.
Joe Getty
Meanwhile, Ukraine is playing catcher without a mitt. In effect, they're out of interceptor missiles and are begging the world for more. But unfortunately, at this point, Vladimir Putin, the monster, has free reign to just slaughter civilians at will. More or less.
Jack Armstrong
Didn't think this war could turn uglier. So we mentioned a little bit yesterday, that drone video that came out, if you haven't seen it, it's some poor old dude and his van where he sells fruits and vegetables out of it, and him and his wife. And then out of nowhere comes this. This is a Ukrainian. Out of nowhere comes this Russian drone, like the size of a first base or something like that, it's pretty big. And starts chasing him around the van. And the guy's running around the van and the drone's chasing. And then all of a sudden, the drone, which is packed with explosives apparently, or the ability to blow up, dives at him, and the guy jumps under the van, somehow miraculously doesn't die, but the thing blows up. This drone chased him around the van.
Becca
Why?
Jack Armstrong
Why is somebody, some Russian, chasing this fruit vendor around his van to try to kill him?
Joe Getty
To terrify the populace into capitulating.
Jack Armstrong
To terrify the population A couple of days after Ukrainian drones hit a beach in Russia. If you haven't seen that video, that's pretty horrifying. You got all these people in bikinis laying on the beach someplace where they feel completely safe and they're drinking and there's boats and stuff like that. And a Ukrainian drone slams into the beach, kills seven people. Now, Ukraine is saying that that was an accident or it was shot down by the Russians or whatever. I don't know if I believe that or not. If I'm Ukraine and I'm in charge, this is. We're fighting for our survival. You're doing it, we're doing it, we're all doing it. So I have no idea what actually happened there, but I have a feeling that Putin feels like it was on purpose. And his response was, okay, we're just gonna hit this guy in the street. And. And it's ramping up. And then you add in what Joe just said, that they're out of defenses. All the stuff that came in the other night toward Kiev, they didn't they couldn't even try to shoot one of them down.
Joe Getty
Right, the big missiles.
Becca
Yeah.
Joe Getty
So it's not good.
Jack Armstrong
Possible, which I didn't even think was possible, that this war is about to get uglier than it has been the previous four years.
Joe Getty
Well, here's a for instance for you. You remember back in the day when Iranian nuclear scientists had a life expectancy of about, well, tick tock, tick tock, 10 minutes because guys would pull up to him in traffic on motorcycles or what have you, and the Israelis would set back their program guy by guy. Well, the head of a Russian military drone factory was critically wounded when his car exploded near Yekater, killing his driver in the second attack, targeting a Russian drone maker within a week. No one has claimed responsibility, but I have my suspicions. So now Ukraine is going to terrify, terrorize drone makers. You going to kill our people? Keep your head on a swivel there, comrade.
Jack Armstrong
Well, and you've got the major air base in Germany where they found a drone next to a plane packed with explosives, where some of the stuff that gets shipped to Ukraine comes out of that air base in Germany. And so the United States were there looking at that drone, trying to figure out where it came from. But once again, similar to what you were just saying, I think I have a guess. It's either the Iranians or the Russians. And that's. That was seen, at least on ABC News last night as a major possible escalation that you had a European airport, major European airport with an explosive drone sitting there from Russia. Yeah, it's really something. Okay, we got Mailbag on the way. Stay here.
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Jack Armstrong
Both Iran and Trump say the straight is going to be open today. I think that's the first time they've both said that, so we'll have to get into the details of that ourselves.
Guest or Caller
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Joe Getty
Here's your freedom loving quote of the day. It's a bit long, but I thought it was absolutely brilliant. Peggy Noonan was writing about Anthony Fauci the other day. We quoted some of it, but this is such a good comparison. She talks about a lot of the things that happened and she's such a wonderful writer, but she says it all came together and yielded a little societal Chernobyl. You remember the Chernobyl disaster in in Soviet Union, right? The reactor blew, causing a calamity. The politicians lied and couldn't be trusted. The bureaucrats lied and couldn't be trusted. The government scientists lied about the data in front of their eyes. The national press was a propaganda machine as much as anything Chernobyl contributed to the toppling of the Soviet Union. Looking back on the COVID crisis, a lot of professionals were trusted beyond the point they deserved. So were many politicians. As people on the ground in America rose up against lockdowns, closed schools, mask mandates, closed churches. They were often unheard or heard slowly, reluctantly and disrespectfully. The medical and scientific establishment. Establishment didn't seem to be part of the public anymore, but handling the public. And by the end, a lot of people thought they couldn't trust the politicians and couldn't trust the scientists. My fear is that next time, and there will likely be a next time, regular people will think there's no one to trust. We're on our own. That won't be a good thing. I'm not sure that won't be a good thing, Peggy, because I think that keeps the official honest. Well, it's
Jack Armstrong
talked about this the other day. One one open piece of that is the next pandemic won't be the same. The disease will be different. It could spread among a completely different population, kill people at completely different rates.
Joe Getty
Right, right. But human nature will be similar anyway. Food for thought.
Jack Armstrong
Mailbag no, my point was if it's killing kids and it's easily transmissible, I'll be wanting everything locked down. It's just people are going to React basically on reality or should.
Joe Getty
Right, they should. And I think a lot of people did. Anyway, drop us a note mailbag at Armstrong&getty.com on the topic of the high stock market, Tim writes, guys, I've been saying it is Precari precarious for 10 years and have missed out on the greatest rise in history.
Jack Armstrong
Right, Right. I said that to my stock guy the other day. I was saying, you know, I would have gotten out a year ago or two years ago if I was going to go with the trying to time it it. I'd have thought, there's no way this can last.
Joe Getty
I think it was probably five years ago I first said to my guy, this is way overheated. And he said, yeah, hang in there. Anyway, then this on the similar topic, where did I put it? There it is. Richard, retired Marine, living in Las Vegas. Here. My investment story began in the late 70s. My first duty at Camp Pendleton, Penton. Gladys can jump in with her harp if she likes, he said. It was 1976 and Richard was in Camp Pendleton attending a college class on investments. In all my readings, the name Halliburton kept showing up. Then talked to a class, to a roommate. Learned his dad worked at Halliburton. So with all this buzz around me, I decided to buy about 20 shares at $60 a share. I remember the price because that was all the money this young Marine had.
Jack Armstrong
Wow.
Joe Getty
Problem was mom and dad had to buy it for me because I wasn't 20. Well, I'm sent overseas to Okinawa. There I kept tracking Halliburton by reading the Asia version of the Wall Street Journal. Within the year, the stock split at least three times. So my $1,200 investment was now worth 7, $8,000. Not bad for a year overseas. Now the twist. During one of my visits with mom and dad, I told them about the value of the investment and suggested it was time to sell. Well, they told me they didn't have the investment anymore. They sold it because the price had dropped briefly to around $50 and they didn't want me to lose all my money, so they sold it.
Guest or Caller
Ugh.
Jack Armstrong
Boy.
Joe Getty
Moral of the story. Follow your gut instinct and don't let mom and dad make decisions for you. Thanks, Richard.
Jack Armstrong
To punish ourselves yesterday, we ran through some of the most exciting versions of investing in the stock market in history. Apple, Nvidia, Tesla. That if you'd have gotten in at the right time and gotten out the right time, what would have happened? And of course, practically nobody does that.
Tony Ayo
Tim.
Joe Getty
Bad Tim in Phoenix. Writes Greetings men. And Katie, I have a suggestion. If you remember back in the 30s and 40s, there was a group of national social who call themselves the Nazis. I suggest we call the modern Democratic socialists the Dotsies. You folks can make this happen. The dots these interesting, but I think the Islamist faction is more dangerous. Anyway, we'll think about it. The topic everybody was talking about after the show yesterday was my neighbor justified in trapping an opossum. Aaron writes they're nocturnal and tick eradicators. They even eat mice. They have wicked sharp teeth but just want to be ignored. Stop trapping opossums.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, let them live their little life with their weird hairless tails.
Joe Getty
I'm going to chew my neighbor out. Let's see. How about this? Oh, on the topic of what is common sense, what's the definition for it? Jeff weighed in a little late from Fontana, California. Here's my definition of common sense. The ability to understand cause and effect, which in turn is the ability to discern truth. I think truth might be an interesting topic for a deep dive on the show. Maybe some learned guest to add to the discussion. In my ability, in my opinion, the inability to discern the truth is what causes most of today's problems. Yeah, we talked about that. Ideology trumping truth.
Jack Armstrong
What is truth? We'll make that a whole day someday. If you missed a segment, podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand.
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In this episode, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty dive into the theme of "upheaval," examining political turbulence, headline news, and the ways institutions and public trust are being strained in America and beyond. From potential legal troubles for Anthony Fauci to unrest in global geopolitics and unsettling trends in the American economy and political landscape, A&G reflect on the times’ shakiness with their signature blend of irreverence, skepticism, and sharp social commentary.
Jack introduces the idea that Anthony Fauci might actually face jail time due to contempt proceedings in Congress. While skepticism is voiced over whether this is typical DC theater, both hosts recognize the unprecedented territory as legal experts believe this could escalate to the Supreme Court.
Joe and Jack discuss the constitutional tensions between pardon power and compelling testimony versus Fifth Amendment rights. Joe points out how legal opinions are split—and always are:
Jack raises the fundamental public interest issue: How do we get the truth from high-level officials about major national crises when criminality is off the table?
Joe highlights the media’s ongoing reluctance to admit error during COVID and their complicity:
Jack and Joe joke about government record-keeping and Fauci’s diary, with a comic riff about whether a physical journal would be subject to disclosure laws.
Joe notes possible criminal liability for ordering deletion of records:
The segment emphasizes the cloud of legal, moral, and procedural questions swirling around high-profile pandemic officials, and, more broadly, how public trust and accountability are challenged in times of upheaval.
Updates on Ukraine's dire lack of missile defense ("they're out of interceptor missiles and are begging the world for more," Joe, 35:32), the escalation of targeting civilians, and a chilling anecdote of drone warfare.
They discuss tit-for-tat attacks, drone strikes on Russian soil and even discoveries of explosives-laden drones at a major U.S. air base in Germany, raising alarms about escalation and direct threats to the West.
This segment paints a backdrop of increased global and domestic insecurity—cyber, kinetic, and political.
Jack contends that Trump’s billionaire lens gives him a blind spot regarding how most Americans perceive the economy. High stock market numbers mean little on Main Street.
Joe notes market highs are largely driven by AI and are perceived as precarious, even for those who do follow the markets:
Listener Mailbag: A humorous lament about missing out on bull markets due to always feeling things are too “bubbly” (44:43-46:01).
High-flying indexes do not translate to felt prosperity. The economic ‘upheaval’ is psychological as much as numerical, breeding a sense of instability and missed opportunity.
There is skepticism about the American system’s resilience against radical political tides when they’ve become embedded in cultural and educational life.
Even amidst upheaval, the show relishes in curiosity, technology, and juvenile astronomy humor.
The episode weaves headlines and analysis into a portrait of social, political, and economic upheaval, interrogating whether American institutions and narratives—political, scientific, and cultural—are up to new pressures. The hosts’ banter and skepticism serve as both entertainment and a cultural barometer for listeners trying to make sense of turbulent times.
For more, listen to the full episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand—“Upheaval is the Theme!”