The A&G Replay Thursday Hour Three

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand: The A&G Replay Thursday Hour Three

Date: July 2, 2026
Podcast: Armstrong & Getty On Demand
Host: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode is a lively, wide-ranging replay from The Armstrong & Getty Show, curated with entertaining and thought-provoking segments from previous months. The hour features discussions on the ever-changing landscape of nutrition science, fraud in medical billing (with a focus on autism treatment), generational gambling trends, the economics of shipping, clickbait news, and the psychology of fear in media. The tone is informal, irreverent, and sharply skeptical, with hosts Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, Katie, and Michael riffing on current events, science, and the quirks of human nature.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Nutrition Science: Why Is Advice Always Changing?

(03:29 – 07:12)

• Discussion revolves around a Washington Post column by Tamar Haspel, relaying frustration with contradictory nutrition advice over the years.
  • "I've watched low fat come and go. I've watched low carb morph to paleo, then keto, then carnivore. I've watched people eat according to their blood types and food pHs." (Katie, 04:06)
• Hosts emphasize how most dietary studies are poorly constructed, self-reported, or barely scientific.
• Satirical riff: Arnold Schwarzenegger’s “don’t eat anything bigger than your fist” is lampooned.
• Boiled-down, research-backed nutrition facts from Haspel:
  1. Dietary fiber is unambiguously good for you.
  2. Salt intake raises blood pressure and heart risk — minimize it.
  3. Most saturated fat increases heart disease risk — keep it low.
  • "Eat a wide variety of Holish foods you enjoy in quantities consistent with the weight you want to be. Get lots of fiber and don't overdo the salt or saturated fat." (Katie, 07:05)

Memorable Exchange:
Michael: "I'll start doing that tomorrow." (07:30)

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2. Pseudoscience in Wellness Products

(08:01 – 09:13)

• Katie highlights a $400 Estee Lauder skin cream, where kelp is supposedly "treated with ocean sounds" to unlock its healing powers.
  • "There's a room in an Estee Lauder owned facility...while scientists pump sounds of the ocean to help unlock its healing powers." (Katie, 08:51)
• Panel mocks the idea: "Unlocking the healing powers." (Michael, 09:06), "Shove that kelp up your blow hole." (Katie, 09:11)
• Points to the endless invention of ridiculous luxury health products for the rich.

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3. Credibility Crisis in Science & Academia

(09:47 – 11:10)

• Katie notes that scientific fraud and the "replication crisis" are increasingly acknowledged, fueled by perverse incentives in academia for publication.
  • "Science has a major fraud problem. For decades, scientists were above reproach. Not anymore." (Katie, 09:47)
• Academic publishing is described as full of unread, low-quality papers.
  • "He's got nine papers, blah, blah, blah. Seven of them are bull crap and nobody's read any of them. But that's the currency." (Katie, 11:10)
• Fauci is briefly mentioned as an example of media manipulation of trust in science.

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4. Prostate Health: Surprising Science

(11:10 – 14:28)

• The show lightheartedly discusses the finding: Higher frequency of ejaculation reduces risk of prostate cancer for men.
  • "We're shooting for 21 times a month." (Katie, 12:32)
  • "That's easy peasy." (Michael, 13:20)
• Segment becomes comically awkward as Michael admits never having thought about the prostate’s function.
• Clear that new scientific advice often gets reduced to memorable, sometimes outlandish, headlines.

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5. Prince Andrew Arrested: British Monarchy in Crisis

(15:13 – 19:10)

• British news segment covers the arrest of Prince Andrew, marking the first time in 400 years a royal has been jailed.
  • "Prince Andrew's arrest lands at the top of the British State ... it really does make you think it feeds into that general mood of collapse, erosion, authority fraying." (British Reporter, 16:14)
• Hosts discuss broader British malaise: Economic ruin, failed net-zero policies, and corruption scandals.
  • "We can no longer afford to keep on the track we're on... their whole ridiculous net zero caring about climate change thing ... just crushed their economy and their GDP." (Michael, 16:55)
• Compare Britain’s decline to possible American future: loss of superpower status, rising public debt.
  • "If you could identify like three or four characteristics of a healthy, growing, dynamic system and a shrinking way past its prime dying system, you'd pretty much have the difference between the US and Britain." (Katie, 19:10)

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6. Medicaid Autism Fraud

(24:23 – 27:59)

• Katie brings up massive Medicaid fraud involving fake autism centers, particularly a case in Minnesota.
  • "It's become the go to money spigot for scammers...He employed teenage relatives with no education or training and raked in more than $6 million in Medicaid money." (Katie, 25:46)
• Colorado’s Medicaid audit: An estimated 99% of autism treatment payments in 2022-2023 were either improper or likely improper—almost $285 million.
  • "99% of Colorado's Medicaid payments...for autism treatment were improper or likely improper. 99% totaling $285.2 million." (Katie, 27:13)
• Concern that fake diagnoses harm children and parents, undermine public trust, and distort data on autism prevalence.

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7. The Sports Betting Epidemic Among Gen Z

(27:59 – 29:53)

• Katie summarizes a piece by a student-athlete on the explosion of sports betting among college students, especially competitive young men.
  • "I've had friends who've lost hundreds, lied to their families, pulled away from the team, all while chasing the rush..." (Katie, 28:30)
• Noted neurological insight: ‘Near wins’ activate the reward system almost as much as actual wins and keep people hooked.
  • "Near wins...make losses feel like progress and encourage us to keep betting." (Katie quoting expert, 29:39)

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8. The End of Free Overnight Shipping: Markets in Action

(29:53 – 34:37)

• Segment examines how rising shipping prices have forced major retailers to offer slower/cheaper delivery options.
  • "Now retailers are taking it away...the surprising part is it's worked." (Katie, 29:53)
  • "Some customers get a 7% discount if they select a later arrival date." (Katie, 32:20)
• Praises the free market’s ability to adjust faster and more effectively than government bureaucracy.
  • "Can you imagine if you had to get Congress or the Department of Shipping approve all the different rate cuts?" (Katie, 31:11)
• Anecdotes highlight the addictive convenience of overnight shipping but acceptance that delays save money for both sides.

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9. The Power of Clickbait and Sensationalism

(39:11 – 43:50)

• Critique of media panic over a cruise ship ‘hantavirus’ outbreak, paralleling it with the COVID-19 news cycle.
  • "I don't know what to make of the coverage of this hantavirus thing..." (Michael, 39:54)
• Hosts mock how news anchors fixate on the fear angle, even recycling the same death totals for weeks.
  • "This is the very week, last week, in which the...nation's debt surpassed our GDP ... and we're worried about a couple of people on a cruise off the coast of Africa." (Katie, 41:00)
• Concluding: “Everything is clickbait, everything is a grift, and nobody has ever tuned out of 'you're in danger.'” (Katie, 42:57)
• Jokes about clickbait stories—"21 year old to have legs amputated after legs locked straight and bent backwards"—punctuate the absurdity.
  • "Are you at risk? Stay tuned." (Katie, 43:48)

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10. Human Nature, Incentives, and the Problem with Utopian Thinking

(24:30 & throughout)

• Katie: "Human beings are rotten. That's one thing that conservatives understand. And so we have to have a system of incentives and disincentives so that people don't do rotten stuff." (Katie, 24:30)
• Scepticism toward grand social experiments: Communism, progressivism, and systems predicated on perfect human behavior are roundly dismissed as doomed.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "Eat a wide variety of Holish foods...Get lots of fiber and don't overdo the salt or saturated fat." – Katie, (07:05)
• "Shove that kelp up your blow hole." – Katie, (09:11)
• "We're shooting for 21 times a month." – Katie, (12:32), on prostate health recommendations.
• "Crushed innovation, entrepreneurial spirit. Yeah, just terrible." – Katie, (17:35), on Britain's economy.
• "It's the private economy working brilliantly." – Katie, (33:04), on shipping changes.
• "Are you at risk? Stay tuned." – Katie, (43:48), mocking clickbait.

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Nutrition Science Debunked: 03:29 – 07:12
• Silly Pseudoscience Products: 08:01 – 09:13
• Science/Academic Fraud: 09:47 – 11:10
• Prostate Cancer & Ejaculation: 11:10 – 14:28
• British Monarchy Crisis: 15:13 – 19:10
• Medicaid Autism Fraud: 24:23 – 27:59
• Gen Z Sports Betting: 27:59 – 29:53
• Market Response to Shipping Prices: 29:53 – 34:37
• Clickbait & Hantavirus Coverage: 39:11 – 43:50

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Overall Tone and Language

• Conversational, sarcastic, and sharply critical.
• Willingness to satirize both left and right, with a particularly skeptical attitude toward hype (media, scientific consensus, diet trends).
• Frequent moments of self-aware irreverence and humor.

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Conclusion

The episode weaves humor and skepticism as it explores trends in health, science, public spending, and the media. While often lampooning the absurdities of modern life—from $400 kelp creams to clickbait news and fraudulent billing—the hosts champion the checks and balances of the free market and caution against utopian thinking about human nature. The original, energetic banter makes this both accessible for newcomers and rewarding for longtime listeners.

Transcript

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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Katie]

And now here's Armstrong and Getty. You don't know this about us, but behind the scenes we're really, really cruel and demanding. Armstrong and Getty here and the staff has been busily assembling during our vacation a collection of clips and, and things that have happened in recent months that are especially entertaining and evergreen.

[Michael]

As we say now, more of the Armstrong and Getty replay.

[Katie]

So I promised a handful of things about nutrition and science and, and, and that, you know, broad category. I thought this was really good. There are a couple of columnists for the Washington post, including Megan McArdle. Jack, who you've mentioned is really good that I'm finally going back to the Post. Some because it's news reporting was just obnoxiously left for so long I haven't bothered. But this Tamar Haspel, she's a woman, is their science writer and she writes. Ever notice how nutrition advice keeps changing? Yeah. Don't even answer. Been writing about how diet affects our health.

[Michael (possibly same as L, another Michael or guest)]

Health.

[Katie]

I've watched low fat come and go. I've watched low carb morph to paleo, then keto, then carnivore. I've watched people eat according to their blood types and food pHs. Now we're saddled with dietary guidelines that double down on meat, saturated fat and protein. Nobody can get a straight answer to the simple question what should I eat? And she goes into. And we probably don't have time for it but she goes into the fact that most evidence is lousy for studies that purport that this is good for you. They're just very loosely conducted or study human in the field or are self reporting or that sort of thing. And as science goes it's just very, very flimsy.

[Michael]

Well, it's all, it's always been so interesting the whole diet thing because we want something to be true so much that if somebody comes along a new study says that whatever don't eat anything bigger than the size of your fist. You know, here's, here's our study of people who did it and all lost weight. We don't take the time to look into, look into it at all because

[Joe Getty]

we want it to be true so much that there's some magical I can still eat what I want and not

[Michael]

have to exercise way to Lose weight. We're just willing to go forward with

[Katie]

anything that's part of it.

[Tony Ayo]

Yeah.

[Katie]

Michael, I believe the don't eat anything bigger than your fist is the Arnold Schwarzenegger diet, isn't it? He says hinting most evidence is lousy yields inconsistent answers. You can find some support for almost every diet theory going. Go ahead. But I hope you leave enough room for my fist, because I'm going to ram it into your stomach. There you go. There you. There it is. So anyway, she. I'll skip to the punchline here. She goes into the serious status studies with real data and comes up with these three things. Number one, dietary fiber is good for you in a lot of ways. Fiber is really good for you.

[Michael]

Had. People said it wasn't. I don't pay attention to any diet trends, so I never know.

[Katie]

Right, right.

[Michael]

People have been saying fiber was bad for you.

[Katie]

Who was.

[Michael]

Was somebody.

[Katie]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no. It's distilled down to the three things you can absolutely count on. Number one, what I just said. Number two, salt raises blood pressure, increases the risk of stroke and heart disease. Minimize salt, period. There's no science zero that argues against that. Minimize salt. Salt is yummy. Salt is also addictive in that the more you use it, the more you need to use it to perceive salty flavors. I've known some people who, like, are really into it, and my God, they put obscene amounts of salt on food.

[Michael]

I never saw dilating. So I'm pretty clear there.

[Katie]

There you go. And number three, most saturated fat raises heart disease risk. So just keep it to a minimum. It's. It's very basic. She says that's the best advice nutrition science can gives us. Give us. Which means I've got my spiel down to about 8 seconds. Eat a wide variety of Holish foods you enjoy in quantities consistent with the weight you want to be. Get lots of fiber and don't overdo the salt or saturated fat.

[Michael]

Well, that's a phrase that's easier said than done. In quantities consistent with the weight I want to be.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, sure.

[Katie]

Somebody said it was going to be easy.

[Joe Getty]

Sure.

[Michael]

I'll just start doing that.

[Katie]

Yeah. Well, at least you know, I appreciate your cynicism, but knowing what to do and being sure of it.

[Michael]

I'll start doing that tomorrow.

[Katie]

Is. Is. Is the first step, a journey of

[Michael]

a thousand steps, the key to all diets. I will start that tomorrow.

[Katie]

Yes. Make a note on your calendar.

[Michael]

Not today. Tomorrow. Today I'm going to a really good restaurant, but tomorrow that'll Be perfect.

[Katie]

Have your AI agent set a alarm on your calendar. I want to talk about that more.

[Michael]

I'm surprised there aren't more diets that are. Or dietitians that say never eat out. That seems like that'd be a really good piece of advice.

[Katie]

Or never finish it if you do. Well, do we have time for this? I love this story from the Journal. This is a $400, a little jar skin cream that's made by playing music to kelp before they mash it up and turn it into skin cream.

[Joe Getty]

Katie. Oh, Katie.

[Katie]

If looks could kill. It almost did. And it was a near fatal look.

[Michael (possibly same as L, another Michael or guest)]

That's one of the dumbest things I have heard in a long time.

[Michael]

Is this a Gwyneth Paltrow thing?

[Michael (possibly same as L, another Michael or guest)]

It's. Yeah.

[Michael]

Right up her alley.

[Michael (possibly same as L, another Michael or guest)]

Is that from her store?

[Michael]

Yeah. No kidding. So they play music to kill and then whatever.

[Katie]

That's day Lauder. I'll just read you whatever that does

[Michael]

to kelp, which I'm sure is nothing. Then they put. They grind it up and put it in this jar. $400.

[Katie]

I will just read you the first sentence. There's a room in an Estee Lauder owned facility on Long island where kelp swirls around in giant kettles while scientists pump sounds of the ocean to help unlock its healing powers.

[Michael (possibly same as L, another Michael or guest)]

Oh, shove it.

[Michael]

Unlocking the healing powers.

[Katie]

Shove that kelp up your blow hole.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Katie]

400 bucks if you buy that jar, Katie.

[Michael (possibly same as L, another Michael or guest)]

Yeah, no, if somebody buys that. We need. We need to have a conversation.

[Katie]

You know, that's the redistribution of wealth though. Everybody works on that. Everybody works for that company. Everybody gets a cut of that. You are taxing the rich because they spend a lot of money on silly stuff. Anyway, moving along very briefly, some dude

[Michael (possibly same as L, another Michael or guest)]

was sitting in a meeting just smoking a joint, going, hey, tell them we played music to kelp.

[Michael]

Yeah, no kidding.

[Katie]

Should we actually play the music to the kelp so we don't get boss do or donative. Go ahead, put a speaker in there. I don't care. Yeah, exactly. We don't really have time for this. But I'm going to touch on it because I've mentioned it a couple of times. Science has a major fraud problem. For decades, scientists were above reproach. Not anymore. And it's all about the incentives and disincentives and grants situation in science and how politics has gotten into SC and boy, a peer reviewed paper just doesn't mean that much anymore.

[Michael]

Well, the replication problem has been going on forever and just I don't know how they keep that quiet or people don't catch on or whatever. So many studies, they can't be replicated. They just can't be.

[Katie]

It's either gotten worse or people have gotten better and more enthusiastic about hunting this stuff down. Because the numbers of retracted posts that had to be. Well, I'm sorry, of papers that had to be retracted is just staggering at this point. Then you get, I represent science. Actually, I'm sorry, Anthony Fauci perfectly represented science.

[Michael]

Yeah, he did.

[Katie]

He threw on the white coat and looked all authoritative and then lied and lied and lied.

[Michael]

You get something published in some thing that nobody ever reads and that goes on your resume for some reason. I don't get that whole world.

[Katie]

Oh, I know. The world of academia is just so strange. You know, once in a while somebody will say to me, and it's a lovely, confident compliment, rather, Joe, you ought to teach if you ever retire. I'm like, no, I, they, I would probably self combust on a college campus or my head would explode. Anyway, what was I going to say? Oh yeah, the fact that that's what you have to, you have to publish. You have to publish. He's got nine papers, blah, blah, blah. Seven of them are bull crap and nobody's read any of them. But that's the currency of the realm in academia. It's just bizarre. And then finally this. And I make this pledge. I, Joe Getty, will make zero stupid jokes or unnecessary sexual references in this story. This is about men's health and I heard this many times. And I have a good friend who was until recently a urologist who did surgeries on both sexes parts, but mostly male parts, prostate surgery and that sort of thing. The more it works, the lower your chance of prostate cancer. Like significantly 20 to 30% lower risk. We're shooting for 21 times a month.

[Michael]

Of what?

[Katie]

Which is a pretty rigorous schedule of using your prostate exam, ejaculating.

[Michael]

Oh, okay. I didn't know what you're driving at. That's what you meant? Okay, yes, yes. Working your man.

[Katie]

Well, that's okay.

[Joe Getty]

What did you do?

[Katie]

The prostate has only one function.

[Michael]

I have no idea what the prostate's function is. I've got the slightest idea. No, I've never thought about it in my life.

[Katie]

Oh my God, how interesting.

[Michael]

I've never thought about it once in my life. No, this is news to me. That's the only thing the prostate does.

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[Michael]

Oh yeah, I know. I had one. I knew it can get cancer, but I didn't have any idea what it Did.

[Katie]

Wow, okay, interesting. So that's five times a week. Yeah, roughly.

[Michael]

Easy peasy.

[Katie]

Oh well, I like your attitude. That's a positive can do attitude on a slow week.

[Michael]

That's easy.

[Katie]

Well now that there's a like powerful health insight. Oh yeah, like a monkey in a cage.

[Joe Getty]

Wait.

[Katie]

Oh, I, I broke my own vow.

[Michael]

Oh, everyone, you're going to have to excuse me. I care about the family and I need to be here for you. So I'll be right back.

[Katie]

Oh boy. Oh, worse and worse. I knew it was a minefield folks, and I went in anyway. I am to blame.

[Michael]

Wow, how many?

[Joe Getty]

It's.

[Michael]

That's the latest science on that.

[Katie]

Yeah, the, the. Well you know what? This, this is actually an interesting health story. That total 21 times.

[Joe Getty]

Ish.

[Katie]

20 to 30% lower than a much lower frequency like 4 to 7 times a month. Never mind. 00.

[Michael]

I can't even imagine.

[Katie]

I can't even imagine since I was 9.

[Michael]

I'd be so angry.

[Katie]

Oh, you wouldn't want to live with me. Anyway, that's probably enough of that. We have war news coming up.

[British Reporter]

Sol.

[Katie]

Solid violent war news. Important.

[Michael]

How do you, you don't see billboards or TV ads or Vogue magazine, like you know, to quote George Costanza.

[Katie]

Time for break everybody.

[Michael (possibly same as L, another Michael or guest)]

And we, we didn't see it going here.

[Katie]

Hal. Red faced and sweating. Michelangelo demands we take a break.

[Jack Armstrong]

Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. The Armstrong and Getty Show. The Armstrong and Getty Show.

[British Reporter]

But this has never happened before. We have a prince, the son, favored son of Queen Elizabeth, much loved Queen Elizabeth now sitting in a jail cell with, we're told a bed and a toilet in the cell. But no one in the royal family has ever been in this position. So whether you know the royals or you don't know the royals, this is incredibly shocking.

[Michael]

Katty kay on MSNBC, first time a royal has been arrested in 400 years.

[Joe Getty]

400 years.

[Michael]

So that'd take you back to the time of Shakespeare. Since a royal has been elected. So Prince Andrew is in a jail cell trying to turn his scepter into a shiv, probably to protect himself. I assume he has a scepter.

[Katie]

He's soft for that sort of thing. You think they carry it with them? I'll tell you what, you got arrested back in the like you were talking about. You'd think, oh, this is going to end badly.

[Michael]

Here's another interesting report from another Brit will listen to anybody with a British accent.

[Michael (possibly same as L, another Michael or guest)]

Listen.

[British Reporter]

Prince Andrew's arrest lands at the top of the British State. And to have a senior royal in custody on suspicion of misconduct in public office really shatters that aura of insulation around the monarchy. But I think that it also plays into a wider perception of Great Britain at the moment, which is that of a country crumbling, a country that imploding. When you see this happening, even at the symbolic top, the Royal Family, it really does make you think it feeds into that general mood of collapse, erosion, authority fraying.

[Katie]

I don't know. Hadn't. Hadn't grocked that myself. But, yeah, their. Their politics are just diseased and the national spirit is terrible right now.

[Michael]

Well, in their economy. So I've listened to a couple of podcasts that I've mentioned in the last six months from British reporters talking about, hey, America, we're where you're going to be in 5, 10, 15 years, whatever the number is, we're already there. We have overspent and time is up and we can no longer afford to keep on the track we're on. And a lot of it for them had to do with their whole ridiculous net zero caring about climate change thing. You couldn't do anything in that country unless you had net zero impact on the climate, which just crushed their economy and their gdp.

[Katie]

Crushed innovation, entrepreneurial spirit. Yeah, just terrible.

[Michael]

Then you got Prince Andrew running around giving away state secrets to Provos, touching underage girls. That doesn't help anything.

[Katie]

In return for access to. Yeah, Romanian women of loose morals.

[Michael]

Yeah, that's quite a story. I don't know if it's. Do you know what? So it's a small segment of society in England that wants to get rid of the constitutional monarchy system. You know what they call them? Republicans. That's what they call that crowd in England. So if you hear the term republican, it's people that want to do away with the King and Queen having any power whatsoever. I don't know how much power they have. It's a constitutional monarchy, but I don't know how much.

[Katie]

Not really any.

[Joe Getty]

I don't.

[Michael]

Yeah, I don't. I don't think. Not the way I understand it. Is there really any power either? I mean, the Prime Minister, when you're elected, you have to go ask for permission from the Queen or King, but if they said go f yourself, I'm not sure it makes any difference.

[Katie]

It's just an effort to tie Britain to their history, back when they were a big deal. Yeah, yeah, that's true, too. It's just a feeling of continuity that it's tough for Americans to understand. But, yeah, the Monarchies are stupid wherever they exist, even though I call for them about once a month.

[Michael]

Tough for Americans to understand for now. I wonder if we will have to understand it at some point what it's like to go from being the world superpower to just another country, right? Like happened with great with England.

[Katie]

Well, now it's time for my trademark. Michael, you remember what my trademark is, of course, right? Yelling at the staff. No, no, that's not it, idiot. No, my trademark is to be interesting then depressing. Oh, if you could identify like three or four characteristics of a healthy, growing, dynamic system and a shrinking way past its prime dying system, you'd pretty much have the difference between the US and Britain. But even if you identified those things, nobody would care. They would just vote for more money out of the treasury for themselves. And in a related story, why the federal deficit is projected to surge in five charts. This from the Wall Street Journal. U.S. debt will be more than 100% of our U.S. gross Domestic Product by later this year, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

[Michael]

Imagine if you're a debt credit card debt was more than you make a year. Yeah, you would feel like you're in a pretty bad spot, wouldn't you?

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

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the Armstrong and Getty Show

[Joe Getty]

Warner Brothers World Abu Dhabi is officially developing Harry Potter themed land in the United Arab Emirates. So hopefully they know the spell for Misalum. Deflect us.

[Katie]

Wow, that's a good joke.

[Michael]

I just thought of this for some reason. If I was an executive at Taco Bell, I would be running a promotion right now with commercials where it says we've appointed a new Supreme Burrito. Wow, I think that would get lots of attention.

[Simon Malls Announcer]

Oh yeah.

[Katie]

Oh yes it would.

[Michael]

We've appointed a new Supreme Chalupa.

[Katie]

Yeah, it would get attention from people with bomb vests strapped to them.

[Michael]

It's a good production.

[Katie]

No, that's almost not even a joke. So we will absolutely get back to covering the conflict in the Middle east and bringing you various angles and updates and that sort of thing. But we thought we'd stray from that momentarily.

[X Games Announcer]

What?

[Katie]

What? You got to look on your face. I thought you were going to say something.

[Joe Getty]

All right.

[Katie]

A handful of stories on different topics. I will.

[Michael]

I tease this. I embarrassed myself about as bad as I ever have in my entire life yesterday, which is quite a statement for me.

[Katie]

High bar. Yeah. So among all of us. Sure. So a handful of stories on different topics that I found interesting. Human beings are rotten. That's one thing that conservatives understand. And so we have to have a system of incentives and disincentives so that people don't do rotten stuff. Utopian progressives believe that if you just educate people and badger them long enough, they'll behave like angels. And we can, for instance, have communism or socialism. It'll work. It'll never work. It'll never effing work. Anyway. Here's an example. The Medicaid autism fraud. It is a huge well of fraud now autism and speaking if you don't know this, as the father of an autistic child, it is so difficult given our current systems to monitor what's legit and what's not. It's become the go to money spigot for scammers. We're familiar with the Min soda case. It's worth digging into it a little bit. You've got this 27 year old and you know I despise this guy, but I admire his entrepreneurial spirit. Abid Najib Hassan Yusuf. He set up a fly by night autism center claiming to provide one on one therapy for autistic children. Allegedly worked with corrupt doctors to have children diagnosed with autism. Paid kickbacks to the parents to enroll them in his center. He employed teenage relatives with no education or training and raked in more than $6 million in Medicaid money. Some of which he wired to Ken.

[Michael (possibly same as L, another Michael or guest)]

Huh.

[Katie]

Before anybody caught on.

[Michael]

Well, there's a lot of bad here. I, I definitely hate the fake autism clinics where they're not actually going to help a kid. But how about the fake diagnosis? Man, that doesn't do any kid any good.

[Katie]

No, and it makes it harder to figure out the, the statistics these days. Is it actually on the increases in environmental factors? Is it more awareness, more diagnosis? I mean.

[Michael]

Oh, that's brutal. So you got a kid being told they're autistic. I mean, maybe the parents don't is a fake diagnosis. Maybe you do. I don't know.

[Katie]

Oh, no, no. In this scam, they, they actually did.

[Michael]

Okay, you suck and I hate you and your kids should be taken away from you.

[Katie]

But no, these kids weren't getting any counseling. They just play in a playground or whatever or do what kids are going to do. But the stupid, stupid taxpayer paid for it. Let's see. Nearly all providers. Oh, listen to this, would you? Minnesota is far from alone, judging by audits by the U.S. health and Human Services Department's Inspector General of Medicaid, blah, blah, blah. An IG audit released estimated that Colorado. I'm looking at you. 99% of Colorado's Medicaid payments in 20, 22 and 23 for autism treatment were improper or likely improper. 99% totaling $285.2 million. Virtually all of it.

[Michael (possibly same as L, another Michael or guest)]

Wow.

[Katie]

You got autism centers, billing, Medicaid, more than $50 an hour for autism treatment. When children were playing games, napping or eating. Oh my God, paid to nap. That is my dream career.

[Michael]

Part of the problem is I know enough about the tests for autism that you can get different opinions from different people, even if they're completely legit, straight up trying to do their best. Right. It's not, it's not a blood test. It's. It's a complicated evaluation and different people interpret the results in different ways.

[Katie]

So.

[Michael]

So that makes it tough.

[Katie]

Absolutely true. Touch on this at least briefly. The headline is, I'm a college student, Gen Z sports betting is wrecking my friends lives. And he talks about his football player at a North Greenville university, which I believe is in South Carolina. Anyway, he says, darn right.

[Michael]

I had a girlfriend for Greenville. She would explain to me how she had to say Greenville.

[Katie]

Greenville, Greenville. If you say Greenville, they're like, we'll run you right out of the South.

[Joe Getty]

The south will rise again.

[Katie]

Actually, you don't hear that much in Greenville these days anyway. So he's talking about all of his friends and teammates who've quickly become obsessed with sports gambling. I've had friends who've lost hundreds, lied to their families, pulled away from the team, all while chasing the rush of winning a bet that may never arrive. Sports gambling was a major problem for many of my high school classmates, but it's got even worse in college. He sees it all over the place. And one of the most interesting things in this article, and if you have a college student warn them about this, warn them, warn them, warn them, warn them. Is especially males with a strong competitive drive. He says, ah, why is betting so popular among guys my age? It's Partly how we think our brains struggle to deal with the consequences of a two hundred or four hundred dollar loss. But he quotes this expert on problem gambling warns that younger brains are not developed enough to handle the addictive nature of gambling. This I did not know. Quote, near wins, your team just lost by a point, or you just missed the over under or whatever. Exploit the vulnerability by activating our brain's reward systems almost as strongly as winning, making losses feel like progress and encouraging us to keep betting.

[Michael]

I'm so glad I'm not susceptible to this. For whatever reason, my brain is not susceptible to the gambling thing.

[Katie]

Yeah, I love gambling, honestly, but whenever I do it I think this is a bad idea and I stopped doing it for whatever reason. I don't know, probably genetics. I like this one. This is a completely different topic. I noticed this. The headline from the Journal. We got hooked on fast free shipping. Now retailers are taking it away. As FedEx and UPS charge more, companies are trying options like no rush delivery and fees to make a slowdown. The surprising part is it's worked.

[Michael]

You know, that's a good idea. There's a lot of stuff I don't need this afternoon or overnight. So go ahead and charge me less and ship it ground for a week. I can wait that long.

[Katie]

Yeah, I've ordered more coffee pods because I noticed I was getting low. No, I don't need them today.

[Michael]

I am kind of addicted to the free tonight though with Amazon because I'm a prime member. Like I needed a battery for my motorcycle tomorrow.

[Joe Getty]

That's too long.

[Michael]

There's got to be a different one. Here's one I can get tomorrow night.

[Katie]

Wow, that's crazy. But if you're willing to pay for it, it's fine. I've got to confess, I am so fascinated by watching free markets work, I get excited about it. I'm such a geek for this stuff. And it's. Oh my God. It's such an illustration of why central planning is a horrific idea.

[Michael]

We would have never gotten to this with the postal service if we had no competition.

[Katie]

No, no. And can you imagine if Amazon had to have bureaucrats approve the prime model where they lost a very, very long time? Jeff Bezos was a joke in a lot of business communities for a long time. But then he saw the way it was going and he knew if he stuck with it long enough, it'd become an enormous profit. Making enterprise retail less than cloud computing. I get that. Don't bother writing the emails. But now that shipping costs have risen substantially, that's at the heart of the story. Now, can you imagine if you had to get Congress or the Department of Shipping or whatever to approve all the different rate cuts? It would take forever and there would be lobbying and big checks being written. And the system perverted. No, this is the private economy working brilliantly.

[Michael]

Well, you can combine both of your stories. Remember from a couple of weeks ago when I was talking about the guy who started FedEx? It was going under. It wasn't working. He went to Vegas and wagered and won to keep it alive long enough to take off.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah.

[Katie]

That is funny and ironic. So here's what's going on essentially,

[Simon Malls Announcer]

and

[Katie]

this is a good lead. Esther Fung, Remember that package you ordered last week should be arriving any day now. After years of priming us to expect speedy deliveries, the ever growing E commerce economy is weaning us off of them. And no one seems to mind the great pioneer of same day delivery and next day. Amazon, whose deliveries were so quick that the rest of the industry hustled to match them, now offers some customers a 7% discount if they select a later arrival date.

[Michael]

That's a great idea. Oh, yeah, that's a good idea.

[Katie]

Gap provides as many as five options, including what it labels no Rush shipping, that its website says can take up to nine business days. Typically. The cheapest obviously are free, depending on what you're buying.

[Michael]

I don't know, it's pretty trendy at the Gap. It might be out of style by the time it gets there.

[Katie]

Birdie Ball Golf, a retailer that sells putting mats and other golf accessories, offers economy shipping with delivery dates that are as long as two weeks. Weeks? You'll still suck as a golfer in two weeks, trust me. And they give a bunch more examples. But yeah, it came and it's still there, but it's gonna cost you a little more.

[Tony Ayo]

And it's.

[Katie]

It's the free market at work. I think it's brilliant.

[Michael]

Order my jeans at the Gap. They get here in 10 days. Nobody's wearing these anymore. That is really.

[Katie]

The thrift store.

[Michael]

That is really quite amazing. What a great idea.

[Katie]

Yeah, yeah, sure. Let's see. And they go into some of the reasons the shipping costs have increased. You know, it's the same reasons as everything else these days. But prices have climbed dramatically in recent years. Since 2020, the two leading carriers have raised their base rates by 5 to 7% annually. In addition, they've increased their ancillary fees, including fuel surcharges, address correction fees, and added charge for delivering to residences. They've also imposed stricter rules on package sizes so that dimensions get rounded up. The reason being, for the longest time, the shipping industry depended on big shipments. Either big items that were fairly expensive or many, many items shipped to, like, the same place or similar place. The idea of Joe gets one little package and Jack gets one little package and Katie gets two and Michael gets one and we'd be living in different places. That's too costly, so prices are going up anyway. Free market at work. God bless liberty.

[Michael]

I got a question.

[Katie]

Economic as well as all other kinds.

[Michael]

I got a question before we take a break and then I'll tell my horribly embarrassing story from yesterday. Has any. I just saw this on tv. Has anybody on the show ever made the heart symbol with their hands? Where you do the thing where you put your, like, knuckles together and you do the thumbs and you make the heart? Has anybody ever done that?

[Michael (possibly same as L, another Michael or guest)]

No. In a ironically, in a mocking sense, I have.

[Katie]

Katie and I both ironically answered, have

[Michael]

you ever done it? So nobody. Has anybody done it? Non. Ironically. I feel like that's a certain sort of person. You're either the sort of person that would ever do that or you're not.

[Katie]

Yeah.

[Michael]

And I see it on TV a lot from people or apparently are the sort of person that would do that and they're doing it sincerely, for what

[Katie]

it's worth, Hanson does it to me all the time. That's sweet.

[Michael]

You guys are cute.

[Michael (possibly same as L, another Michael or guest)]

Hilarious.

[Katie]

Michael.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, boy.

[Michael]

That might a good way to. To divide people. Are you the sort of person that does the heart thing with your hands? Okay, then I'm not interested.

[Katie]

Yeah, I got arthritis in my thumb, so it looks more like the head of the Grinch from the Grinch who Stole Christmas.

[Michael]

Yeah. If you did that to me, I wouldn't have any idea what you're trying to communicate.

[Katie]

What is that, your kidney? Is that your spleen? That's hard.

[Jack Armstrong]

Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty the Armstrong and Getty show

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On the cruise ship at the center

[Katie]

of the hantavirus outbreak now heading to the United States.

[Joe Getty]

Oh my God. The passengers are in the United States now. We're all gonna die. We let the man die. What about the children?

[Michael]

A gerbil.

[Joe Getty]

I think I got the Red Sea for already. Get your affairs in order. A will and or trust. We'll do the ad later. Get your affairs in order. We're all going to die. The Haunter virus is exactly like Covid. Millions are dead.

[Katie]

They're about to close schools for copulating with a rodent. Ted Cruz, I don't think you have to copulate with it. But Back to you, Dr. Jack.

[Michael]

I don't know what to make of the coverage of this hantavirus thing. So now and then, especially yesterday, the

[Joe Getty]

Sunday talk shows, which in theory are

[Michael]

for smart people your meets the press, your face is. The nation that led with the hantavirus

[Joe Getty]

story went on for like half the show. This is while we're at war.

[Michael]

This is why all this stuff is going on.

[Joe Getty]

Half the show with various experts.

[Michael]

This sort of thing. Play it.

[Katie]

Michael, what is your message to Americans who are still scared? We have been repeating the same question, the same answer many times with an

[Joe Getty]

expert who would say. All right, since you said. Since you just said people are still scared.

[Michael]

I guess I'll pretend that's true.

[Joe Getty]

Is anybody scared? Is anybody.

[Katie]

Maybe you like being terrified by gonorrhea, but you never get with hoes. I mean, why.

[Joe Getty]

Why are you.

[Katie]

Oh my God, we are so stupid. This is the very week, last week, in which the. The nation's debt surpassed our gdp. Our total gdp, which is a horrifying milestone. And we're worried about a couple of people on a cruise off the coast of Africa.

[Joe Getty]

What the hell?

[Katie]

Well, they're now on our shores, Jack.

[Joe Getty]

Run free lives.

[Katie]

Run free lives.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know.

[Michael]

I honestly don't know what to make of the. Every host on all these different shows that I saw said the same thing. People out there are very scared. They're worried. This is a repeat of COVID Are they?

[Joe Getty]

Or did you just make that up completely?

[Katie]

Like most stews, Jack, I think this one has a number of delicious ingredients including the tendency of people on the left to really like Being scared.

[Joe Getty]

True.

[Michael]

Now.

[Katie]

Yeah. Then they can draw together with other people, and they like that.

[Michael]

Like I remember, for instance, Face a Nation. Margaret Brennan, who had a baby, she would, every week she would say, mothers like me are really wondering, when can

[Joe Getty]

our babies get the COVID shot?

[Michael]

Our 1 year olds. And I would think, why are you worried about that? Since, like, no kids are dying. Not a single kid died from COVID if I remember correctly. Right.

[Katie]

Why in the name of heaven would you get your tiny kid shot?

[Michael]

And, and why are you assuming that this is the question on everybody's mind? Because I don't think it is. So I guess extrapolate it to the hantavirus. I. I just. Again, I don't understand the coverage of this story.

[Katie]

Well, that and everything is quick bait and everyone's a grifter, and so that's good. There's a scary sounding disease that's killing people. Are you at risk?

[Michael]

Well, and every story for now, for two weeks includes three have already died. You have the same three that you mentioned last week and the week before. It's only those same three.

[Katie]

Right.

[Michael]

Because it's very hard to spread.

[Katie]

Three have died of hantavirus. You hear Five days after you heard three have died of hantavirus. And you think, oh, my God, three more. No. No. Clickbait.

[Michael]

Yeah. As you say, everything is clickbait and

[Katie]

everything is a grift and nobody has ever turned tuned out of. You're in danger. Nobody's ever tuned out of A tornado is heading here. Punch the dial. Let's listen to music, honey. And so that's part of the clickbait. You're in danger. It's ridiculous.

[Michael]

So what do you have to do to get the hantavirus? Just sprinkle some rat feces on your salad.

[Katie]

Right, Right. It's got a nice nutty flavor.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Katie]

You started it. Don't you. Don't you act disgusted.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Wow.

[Michael]

Wait a second. Clickbait. Look at this clickbait up here on the screen.

[Katie]

Which one?

[Michael]

21 year old to have legs amputated after legs locked straight and bent backwards.

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You see that picture?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my God. Bent backward.

[Michael]

If your legs.

[Katie]

Oh, Lord, look at that.

[Michael]

How do your legs just somehow lock straight, then bend the wrong direction?

[Katie]

Are you at risk? Stay tuned.

[Michael]

And the cure for it is to amputate your legs.

[Katie]

I'm Margaret Brennan. Backward leg syndrome. Claiming more legs across America. We'll talk to the Secretary of State.

[Joe Getty]

One has already had their legs amputated

[Michael]

because their legs bent backwards.

[Katie]

Legs amputated by backward leg syndrome. Tonight on 60 Minutes.

[Michael]

I might have to click on that story. Is that picture real or is that Photoshopped?

[Katie]

I don't know.

[Michael]

Sure looks in the picture like that poor woman's legs are bending the wrong direction. How often does this happen?

[Katie]

Well, I can't make my legs do that, can you?

[Michael]

I'll read the headline again.

[Katie]

We'll post that at. Armstrongetti.com 21 year old to have legs

[Michael]

amputated after legs locked straight. That's bad enough.

[Katie]

Oh yeah, then bent backwards.

[Michael]

God, you could do some dance moves nobody else could do though.

[Joe Getty]

Ben Armstrong and Getty show the Armstrong,

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty Show Armstrong and getty

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This is Tony Ayo from the Real Report with Tony Ayo and Uncle Murder. You ever notice how everything keeps going up? Rent, streaming, even extra Sosa at your favorite burrito spot. But with Boost Mobile, you don't have to play the Willis Go up soon game. Boost Mobile offers an unlimited talk, text and data plan at a price that'll never go up. It's the same price you'll pay for life. Switch now for unlimited wireless at a price that'll never go up. Only at boost mobile. After 30 gigabytes, customers may experience slower speeds. Customers will pay $25 a month as long as they remain active on the Boost Unlimited plan.

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