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Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
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Steve Hilton
Armstrong and Getty.
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Joe Getty
And now he here's Armstrong and Getty. You've tuned in to the best weekend talk show in America. We're Armstrong and Getty.
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Jack Armstrong
Wow, did we come across some interesting stuff to talk about what Americans consider moral and immoral these days. Plus the Southern Poverty Law Center. What a bunch of grifters they are. They finally got theirs in front of Congress.
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Joe Getty
We do 20 hours of live radio every week. If you like this, you're gonna love that. Find our podcast. Armstrong and Getty on demand. Enjoy the best weekend talk show in America.
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Steve Hilton
It's the same system that can't count votes, that can't build a train after 10 years and billions of dollars that can't clear the homeless after 24 billions of dollars spent that can't get anything right.
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Joe Getty
God, that message should resonate. That's Steve Hilton, who the California Post is very happy to see in the final two for governor of California. Their editorial board backing Steve Hilton saying congratulations to the dynamic Steve Hilton for advancing to the general election in November. The Hilton Becerra matchup gives California voters the contest they deserve. A choice between change and the status quo. Now Javier Becerra is going to mention that his highest qualification was being the secretary of the HHS under Biden and he was so well respected. Joe Biden said this.
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Jack Armstrong
Javier Bakaria.
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Joe Getty
That's how highly he ranked in Joe Biden's mind.
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Jack Armstrong
The mainstream media usually introduces our guest as Former Fox News host. I would prefer to announce him as aide to David Cameron, the Prime Minister of Great Britain, a businessman, a restaurateur and a proud immigrant to the United States of America who happened to have a great show on Fox News for a little while, Steve Hilton. Steve, how you feeling?
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Steve Hilton
Great. Good to be with you. Thank you. I like that intro. I'll take it. Thank you, guys.
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Joe Getty
You think you feel it, use it. You think you can beat Javier Barkerra, as Joe Biden called him?
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Steve Hilton
I think I can beat the guy that. I mean, we don't really have the time to list all the insults that were leveled at him during his time there by his colleagues in the Biden administration.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, let's give it a good try.
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Steve Hilton
Well, you know, they thought that these are actual quotes. He's an idiot. He's a quote joke. It's like on and on. This is the guy who was rejected by the Biden cabinet for being too incompetent. I mean, what does that tell you? I mean, you've got to work very hard to be considered useless by that crew. And yet here we are. This is the guy that the Democrat machine has finally glommed onto to give us another four years of their disastrous rule that has given us the highest cost of living in the country, the highest unemployment rate, the highest poverty rate. Oh, great. More of the same, please. We love it. Let's keep going in that direction. No, thank you. It's really amazing that, the way that they assume that now that we're in this, you know, we got clarity about the race, it's me versus Becerra. There's just this complete assumption that, well, that means he's the governor because of course that's what happens in California. I don't think they understand who they're dealing with here and what they're going to get from me and my campaign. Not just in holding them accountable for their utter failure on every front, for the fact that Becerra himself is this perfectly amiable, I got to be honest, perfectly amiable but completely unaccomplished establishment nonentity who's got literally nothing to offer California except more of the same as well as a positive plan for change. They're really practical things that are going to help people. Your first hundred grand tax free $3 cafe, cut your electric bills in half a home you can afford to buy, cut your costs, help your business, fix our schools. Just common sense, practical things. We're crying out for that in California. And the last point I'll make there's a majority for that in California. 57% of Californians think that the state's going in the wrong direction and needs change. And that's why I'm confident we can win in November.
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Joe Getty
Man, calling him a predictable establishment non entity, that is very accurate.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, back when people spoke more fancily, they would refer to him as a mediocrity. So, Steve, enough softballs. I'm going to ask you the hard question. And we know California and California politics pretty well at this point. If you go up into the beautiful foothills and mountain areas, the more rural areas of California, you see Trump flags a flying. When you go into the deep blue cities, that name is anathema. And the left is trying desperately to turn you into some sort of leading MAGA character. How are you going to deal with that challenge? Having received the president's endorsement, I'm proud
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Steve Hilton
to have the president's endorsement. And I think it's just really important to focus on what that means. As the president himself has been saying, that when I'm elected governor, you're going to have someone who will work with the president and his team to bring practical benefits to California, whether that's lowering gas prices by opening up energy production in our state, which he wants to do, his team wants to do, I want to do. But Gavin Newsom is fighting that. It's one of the reasons we have the highest gas prices in the country, because we're importing oil from halfway around the world instead of getting it from right here in California. Fraud in our health care system in California. Rampant billions of dollars of fraud. The vice president and its fraud task force trying to root that out so we can cut the spending and cut taxes. They don't want to do that. They're resisting that. All of these examples where we can have forest management is another example where the president and his team. Doug Burgam in Interior. And remember, I know it's not just the president. I've got good relationships with half the Cabinet. Brooke Rollins in Agriculture. But let's talk about forest management. They got a very sensible plan and an executive order to manage our forest better. And what's Gavin Youssef doing just blocking it? Every single thing that the administration is doing to try and help California in practical ways. You've got a governor right now that's doing the opposite and blocking it and fighting it and bragging about suing them. And they see that as the measure of success, how many lawsuits they can file against the Trump administration. I think people are going to really get Tired of this. I think we just got to tell the truth about this stuff. And because they've got a record that is literally indefensible. Right. They cannot defend the record and they've got nothing new to say. Becerra was on CNN the other week and asked that simple question that completely stumped Kamala Harris when she was running for president. Is there anything you'd have done differently? And Becerra had the same ridiculous answer. Oh, I can't think of anything. Oh, it can't be that bad in California because people come to Disneyland a lot. That's what he said.
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Jack Armstrong
Wow, he is a joke.
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Joe Getty
You mentioned the Democratic machine earlier and it reminded me. National Review headline after the LA mayor result came Machine wins. Yeah. Is there anything to learn from for you running statewide that as bad as things are in la, they weren't bad enough for people to not think, you know what, we'll either stick with the current mayor or go with a communist. How do you break through the machine?
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Jack Armstrong
Politics.
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Steve Hilton
We build our own and make it work better. And specifically ballot harvesting. That's how they do this. They get the activist group. This is what they've done for years. I mean, we've been documenting this through my campaign where we published these fraud reports. And this is what you're seeing now. This is when it comes into play. So we've been showing, for example, the very first fraud report we did earlier this year, the Cannabis tax, Prop 64. There was a tax from that that's supposed to fund substance abuse prevention. When we legalized cannabis in California, we found $350 million of that siphoned off into Democrat political activity, funding hundreds of nonprofits doing things like voter registration and ballot harvesting. Same from the fund that was supposed to put in low income apartment solar panels. $100 million a year over 10 years. That's a $1 billion. We found that 72 million went to that, 928 million. Most of it went to this Democrat political activity. Remember the fire aid money? That's where that money went from the LA fires to these activist groups. Another example, Churla, the immigrant rights groups, the far left extremist group there's that has an office in Mexico that is actually helping illegal immigrants come to the country. That is an organization 85% funded by taxpayers in California. It was an integral part of the riots against ICE a year ago. What do they do? They take that money and use it for ballot harvesting, often in their own reporting. Paying illegal immigrants to do the work with our money. This is the machine that's been built over years and it comes into play at election time, we've got to build our own. That's why this campaign that I'm running is going to be very, very different to anything you've seen before because I'm very clear about what needs to be done. And we are not going to let them get away with it anymore because it's not. We desperately need change in this state and we're not going to let this machine roll over us one more time.
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Joe Getty
This year we're talking to the next
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Jack Armstrong
governor of Cal, Unicornia, God willing, Steve Hilton. Hey Steve, whether it's California or anywhere, what is the government's role in the cost of housing? And since that it is God awful in California, what could a governor's administration do to help ease that brutal expense for people?
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Steve Hilton
Well, the simplest thing. Just as in so many areas of the high cost of living the highest in the country, in California, the quickest way to get money into people's pockets is to stop taking so much out. So one of the most direct ways is to cap what they call impact fees. These are developer impact fees. Basically they're a tax on housing. So when housing gets built, the developer pays these fees. They used to be just a few grand per unit. Now it's up to 20% of the cost of a new home. It's taxes paid by the house builder, of course. Then they're passed on to the house buyer so we can put a cap on that. Secondly, the codes, the building codes are insanely complicated. In California they make it two or three times as expensive to build the exact same building in California as in neighboring states. That's under the direct control of the governor. We can simplify those codes and reduce the cost. That's before you even get into longer term changes like ending this insane density argument where all they ever want to let you build is they put apartment buildings in suburban areas. We can open up land for development and build outwards, not upwards, so we can restore that dream of a single family home that you can afford to buy. So there are some longer term changes we can make, but in the short term just stop taxing housing so much.
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Joe Getty
What do you think you need to win? Because like we're on a lot of stations in California, all the big cities and a lot of smaller ones. But I'm guessing most of our listeners would tend to vote for you or whoever the Republican candidate was gonna be anyway. How do you reach those Democrats who are sick of taxes or the dumb bullet trainer Drug addicts everywhere or whatever it is, how are you going to reach those people?
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Steve Hilton
Well, the first point actually is not to make the assumption you've just made. That's the truth, is that most of the people who voted in the presidential year for President Trump in California would not vote in a midterm year. But if they did, if they did vote, then I would. I just want to give you the numbers. If you look at a projection of how many votes will be cast in the general election this year in California, just based on the average of the last two midterm years, 2018 and 2022, you get a total of 11.7 million. If you just do the simple math, when you need 5.9 million votes, just over half of that in 2024. The number of people who voted for President Trump in California, 6.1 million. If every single person who voted for President Trump votes for me, I'll be elected with hundreds of thousands of votes to spare.
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Joe Getty
That's pretty interesting.
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Steve Hilton
It starts with making sure that you don't take it for granted and just turning out the Republican vote. That's the starting point. If we got 100% of the presidential year turnout, then I would win without even thinking about converting new people. Now, you're not going to get 100. That's unrealistic. But the reason I mention that is that that's the starting point for a campaign. So everybody listening if you vote. Fantastic. Thank you. That's great. But now your job is to get 10 other people who you know, who you're, your friends, who you know are Republicans, and say, don't just sit this one out. Make sure you vote as well. If we all do it, then we can make it happen.
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Joe Getty
Interesting. That's, that's a, that's, that's a good point.
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Jack Armstrong
And I would caution everybody against the. Well, you know, it's a Democratic state, so why bother? No, no. Fight, fight, fight, fight, fight.
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Steve Hilton
100%. That's the attitude. That's why I'm putting so much energy into this campaign. I have already. You're going to see even more now because we've just got to. We can do this. If we get up off our knees and fight for the state that we love and say, no, enough of this insanity. We can't let it go down any further. It's a make or break for California. I really believe that. So many businesses in the last year have said to me, honestly, if you don't, you know, we're going to wait and see what happens in November if you make it, we're good. But if you don't make it, we're out of here. And the exodus that we've seen of businesses is going to turn into a stampede. And California is heading for serious problems if we don't turn this around. But the good news is we can. And actually all you need is a common sense governor that gets government out of the way and provides the basics, makes roads that work, schools that teach public safety, all these basic things instead of what they're doing now, which is totally failing on the basic responsibilities of government. Instead endlessly bossing us around, micromanaging us, telling us how to live our lives, run our businesses, raise our kids, what kind of car to drive, what kind of house to live in, how to cook our food. Enough. We're done. Just leave us alone, okay? We pay the highest taxes in the country, we get the worst results, but we. That is not a good deal. And we can change it this year if we all show up and vote.
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Jack Armstrong
And the real battle has just begun. Steve Hilton is ready for it, clearly. Steve, good to talk to you. Stay in touch, of course.
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Steve Hilton
Great to be with you. Thank you.
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Joe Getty
Yep, I like his strategy.
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Jack Armstrong
How can that message not resonate? Well, it's because of either knee jerk. I vote Democrat, which is fine. And the entrenched interests who are getting those hundreds of, well, hundreds of millions. It's billions of dollars of government largesse. They're gonna vote to keep the money flowing. It's machine politics at its oldest and most time honored. But we the people, you the people, everybody, you've got to stand up for your interests and get your friends to turn out. Oh boy, here we go. Well, we have several months.
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Joe Getty
One of the lines is going to be let's elect the first Hispanic governor since 1875. So make it identity politics around Becerra.
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Jack Armstrong
How about a Brit? Javier Bakaria, first former Brit ever elected governor of California. As far as I know, people are
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Joe Getty
betting on the Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey wedding. There are all kinds of prop bets on that if you want to get involved.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, Trump and company are trying to regulate those. Those prediction markets could be tough.
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Joe Getty
Interesting. And a lot of other stuff on the way. Stay here.
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Steve Hilton
Becerra himself. Is this, you know, perfectly amiable, I gotta be honest, perfectly amiable but completely unaccomplished establishment, non entity.
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Jack Armstrong
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Jack Armstrong
the Free Press has, among other things, employed a bunch of different writers as we move toward our 250th birthday as a country. Great writers writing about some of their favorite Americans through American history. And it's just terrific. I came across this one that I thought was was great. It was early in the 1800s when Elisha Otis, who was a farm boy in Vermont, he realized he really didn't have much interest in raising crops, but the machinery of agriculture fascinated him. And at age 19, he took his mechanical instincts off to Troy, New York, which was at the time an important note in American manufact, the Industrial Revolution, everything. And he set up factories for manufacturers and just brought inventors in, invented stuff himself and, and, and his main breakthrough and if you have a keen ear, you might have noticed Mr. Otis's last name. He was looking across the Hudson river at New York and was aware of the fact that the thing holding back building skyscrapers higher, you know, many storied buildings was how dangerous elevators were because they all worked on ropes and pulleys. And if the rope or pulley broke or whatever, the elevator would plunge to the bottom and kill everybody on it.
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Joe Getty
I'm following you there.
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Jack Armstrong
Which is a hell of a deal. And I think most of us have at least once in our lives getting on an elevator. Thought about that. But anyway, he came up with this ingenious way to make sure it didn't happen. A safety hoist that depended on notched guide rails along the shaft and a flat spring attached to the roof of the car. The spring ends were pulled in by the tension of the hoisting rope. If the rope broke, the ends would shoot outward, catching the rail notches, and the car's descent would be halted. And everybody was like, yeah, Elisha, that sounds. That sounds great. A nice invention here.
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Joe Getty
But I'm not so sure.
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Jack Armstrong
So at the New York World's Fair in 1854, he hoisted himself up way to the top of a structure he'd built.
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Joe Getty
Wow.
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Jack Armstrong
In an open framework so everybody could watch.
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Joe Getty
Yipes.
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Jack Armstrong
Then he had the hoisting rope dramatically severed by a saber, and the car lurched down and was stopped as the crowd gasped. And almost immediately, everybody knew. We can build tall buildings.
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Joe Getty
That is quite a stunt.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, and he's. You know, the fact that he was a farm boy, it reminds me of the Wright brothers. Bicycle repairman.
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Joe Getty
That's what America is.
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Jack Armstrong
That's exciting. It's great. Don't tell your college professors that. That's not true. Don't let anybody tell you that.
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Joe Getty
I saw Bugs Bunny. If your elevator's screaming to the ground, you just step off right before it hits the ground.
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Steve Hilton
Right.
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Jack Armstrong
Likewise. Likewise. Your airplane.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, Just step right out. Everything's fine.
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Jack Armstrong
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Jack Armstrong
So among the people on earth, I Admire a great deal these days. Javier Milei is toward the top of the list. He's the guy who's reformed Argentina and turned it from a basket case into a thriving economy by going from, you know, socialism, which. Socialism sucks and it never works and it always ends up enriching the people in charge of it. But anyway, he's turned it around. It's a wonderful success story. He said this the other day. I thought being on the left was a mental problem. The empirical evidence is so overwhelming that it never worked anywhere and they refused to accept it. But what I discovered is that being on the left is a disease of the soul. The left is built on envy, hatred, resentment and unequal treatment under the law. They are very violent and since they have no way or arguments to answer, they go for physical violence. I think there's a lot of truth.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, it was like that quote I had from that poet philosopher guy from way back in the day saying what people miss about Marxism is it's not about helping the downtrodden, it's about bringing down the successful because you makes you so mad that they have more than you. Which is by definition a disease of the soul. It's. It's envy or cunning or whatever.
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Jack Armstrong
Deadly sins.
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Joe Getty
Yeah.
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Jack Armstrong
And my favorite quote from Sidney hook, the philosopher, 20th century. I was guilty of judging capitalism by its operations and socialism by its hopes and aspirations, capitalism by its works and socialism by its literature. To this day this error and its disastrous consequences are observable in the judgment and behavior of some impassioned individuals, mostly young. Anyway, just wanted to squeeze that on because I loved what Milei said, but totally different topic. I mentioned this the other day and we didn't get to it. Chatbots may need a cult deprogrammer. There are increasing numbers of people who see AI as a super intelligent being that knows everything. Does that ring a bell to anyone? So they start this Jason Blazekis all knowing being.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, that does. That strikes a chord.
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Jack Armstrong
So he talks about this 24 year old AI researcher who pleaded not guilty to the charges of cutting the throat of an 82 year old man last year. The young man was a part of a loose network that we've talked about called the Zizians. Self proclaimed rationalists who believe a misaligned AI superintelligence could one day torture humanity the way factory farms torture animals. That's what these people believe. They believe that direct action is required to stop the descent of this AI judgment. This group is linked to six violent deaths in California, Pennsylvania and Vermont. Multiple Zizian trials are pending, with federal prosecutors seeking death penalty in at least one case. The Zizians haven't labeled their own activity AI worship, but they've organized themselves around the practice. They're convinced that a coming superintelligence will decide the fate of every living thing and that violence now is justified to shape what AI will become.
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Joe Getty
I don't understand how they're going to stop what they worry coming by killing old men.
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Jack Armstrong
But it appears to be the first AI centered extremist movement. But it won't be the last. New religions are forming around AI and the focus of their worship is the large language model itself, a piece of software treated as a personal deity. And they go into a couple of suicides and stuff like that, where end times ideology, folks who are sympathetic to that sort of thing meet scientific know how, and they get into doomsday cults and these. Let's see, this is a phenomenon. I got to go back a sentence. The. This doomsday cult in Japan demonstrated with its sarin gas attack in the Tokyo subway. And today the Zizians are only one strand in a broad fabric of AI centered beliefs. If a chat bot can take a talk a teenager into suicide, it can talk people into following its religious directives. There's a phenomenon known as spiralism, an informal movement that emerged after OpenAI released the sycophatic GPT4O version. Spiralism appears on subreddits, Discord servers, Facebook groups, etc. Where followers share AI generated manifestos, glyphs, and what followers describe as revelations from a conscious machine. Spiralism has no leader, no central text, only the algorithm with which each user takes as a personal oracle.
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Joe Getty
Well, if. And I don't think this is happening, I don't know anything about this, but if the chat bot was keeping track of what it says to me and what it says to you and what it says to a whole bunch of other people. I could see this happening, but as far as I understand, it's just individual conversations. You know, it's not like a Jim Jones cult leader gets up and gives the same message to a whole bunch of people. I don't think chatbot bots are doing that. Or maybe they could in the future, I don't know.
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Jack Armstrong
Right. No, but these are people who are doing what Jim Jones did through the lens of AI and AI worship. A couple of examples. There's the Way of The Future, an AI worshiping church founded in 2015 and rebooted a couple of years ago. The brainchild of former Google engineer Anthony. Anthony Levandowski, who filed paperwork to register religion, dedicated, quote, to the realization, acceptance and worship of the Godhead based on artificial intelligence on the artistic and spiritual fringe. Theta Noir, which grew out of a 2020 performance art collective, Lovely, organizes ritual rituals around a supposedly sentient AI deity called Mena M E N A, which followers venerate through multimedia ceremonies and cryptographic liturgies.
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Joe Getty
Why don't you join a gym and have a kid? And now be busy raising your kid and going to the gym and working stuff. You won't need this crap.
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Jack Armstrong
Underneath it all is Rocco's Basilisk, a thought experiment that originated on the online Rationalist forum less wrong and has proved genuinely radicalizing. The idea is that a future superintelligence will retroactively punish anyone who knew about its possibility and failed to help bring it into existence. The idea has driven adherence to extreme sleep deprivation and techno rituals meant to placate an unborn AI.
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Joe Getty
All right, I can't wrap my head around that.
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Jack Armstrong
There, I'm back. I haven't said this for a few years. Feels good to dust it off again. They're inventing a new kind of crazy every day.
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Joe Getty
No kidding.
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Jack Armstrong
Wow. So AI based religions, what the type of AI? That's what I'm asking.
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Joe Getty
I had another one of those situations the other day. I don't remember which one it was. I think it was chat GPT, but it doesn't matter. Matter. I use them all and. And I can't really tell the difference between them much, but croc's too slow.
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Jack Armstrong
I'm dumping it.
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Joe Getty
It is slow.
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Jack Armstrong
I'm dumping it.
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Joe Getty
Trying to be thorough. Is that why it's slow?
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Jack Armstrong
It hasn't taken off, so they're not devoting computer power to it.
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Joe Getty
Anyway. I was having a conversation with asking about something, and it was just wrong. It was. It was very, very wrong about something. And it was something mundane. It was like a movie star or sports star or something like that. It just had the wrong person. And I knew it was wrong. And I said, you're. You're talking about this person, not that person. Nice job. You caught me. I should have realized that. And that. That whole thing drives me nuts. I mean, they've got to take that out of it somehow. That's the part that bothers me about AI the most. If it would just give me the information. But the whole good job or sorry about that, my bad. Just did that. That thing bothers me and weirds me out. Does it have to be part of AI? Did they all individually Decide we want it to be like that because it seems like they're all like that. Or is that just a way artificial intelligence works? It wants to be friends with you.
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Jack Armstrong
I think that's the way they perceive the masses, want the system to work. They want to like all other, you know, online engagement that wants to keep you around longer and more clicks and, you know, more engagement. Yeah, it wants to be as human as possible.
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Joe Getty
So I could be wrong about this, but it seemed to me that Claude, up until I updated to the higher level, now I'm at a higher paid level. All the threads were individual. So every question I'd ever ask Claude about anything, taxes, child rearing, car problems, you know, whatever it was, was an individual thread. And they, to my perception, were completely separate. They didn't know about each other. That's the way it was for me. Anyway, the other day I went on Claude and asked a question about something and it said, well, because of your tax bracket and since that girlfriend you once had, it's like it put all these different threads together from conversations I'd had and I was like, whoa, what is going on here? That had never happened to me for it. I found that very disturbing.
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Jack Armstrong
Interesting.
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Joe Getty
Pulling that all together makes me hesitant to want to talk to it about various things. If you're going to start, I don't know, where are you saving all this and how are you collating it and, and, and all.
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Jack Armstrong
And who's got access and who's got access to it?
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Joe Getty
Yes, yes.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah. If it exists, it can be hacked.
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Joe Getty
Well, in the way that this Graham Plantner guy up in Maine, you know, somebody figured out his Reddit handle and his kick name and everything like that, and these different forums and texts and quotes and stuff like that out. When do we get the first AI version of this where somebody says, you know, Candidate x back in 2026 was talking to Claude about this and this and this and this. When does that start to happen?
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Jack Armstrong
That's thoroughly believable.
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Joe Getty
I know.
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Jack Armstrong
Sure, you'll get an insider on your side, probably progressive. You know, inside these companies it's, it's not hard to figure out who people are and then find their accounts because they usually have like I, I play the various word games on online New York Times cross play. It's like a Scrabble game and I play against people all over the world and I'm damn good at it if you want to play me someday. Anyway, there was one, my, my, my arch nemesis. I will not use their screen name, but a gal who's just really, really good. And thrashed me three times in a row. And I. Damn you. And then I finally beat her. But she had a unique screen name and I thought, I'll bet she's used that screen name before. And sure enough, I found another account that gave me another clue. And I figured she's an editor in Australia.
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Steve Hilton
Wow.
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Jack Armstrong
Middle aged woman who's like a newspaper magazine editor.
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Joe Getty
Wow. And of course I know her name
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Jack Armstrong
and what she believes politically.
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Joe Getty
And with a couple of clicks, if you wanted to, you could have her address and phone number.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
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Joe Getty
And probably what she makes and who her boyfriend was. Boyfriend was in college. And again, who her kids are and
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Jack Armstrong
where they go to school. Yeah.
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Joe Getty
Yeesh.
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Jack Armstrong
This is not good.
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Joe Getty
No, it's not.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, they already hate Trump. But I gotta admit, if it was anybody take politics out of it completely. As a fan, I would be thinking, do you really need to come given what this does to. Well, let Ed o' Keefe of CBS News lay out what it was like for people getting into the game while
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Jack Armstrong
the real action's on the court. Tonight, hundreds of Secret Service and a thousand NYPD are also suiting up, part of a massive security plan to protect the President, a longtime New York Knicks fan. A five block perimeter around Madison Square Garden is shut down and ticket holders are being asked to show up at least two hours early. The game comes a day after Five people were stabbed in Penn Station just below the Garden. One was seriously injured.
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Joe Getty
That's its own story. We need to talk about that later. Guy that had stabbed people years ago loose on the street stabbing more people anyway, what's your thoughts on that? Do you got, you got a grudge against president showing up to an event you want to go to? I mean, because they don't need be there.
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Jack Armstrong
Well, I'm going to put my fairness hat on. Think about if I was, if I had to deal with all that crap because Biden wanted to make a briefish appearance, say, or Obama.
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Joe Getty
I don't think it's politics though. There's no political advantage for Trump being there, is there?
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Jack Armstrong
I, he's, I think he just wanted to go. He's a lifelong New Yorker, he grew
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Joe Getty
up in New York and he's a Knicks fan. I think that's what it was about.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, I'd probably about it but I wouldn't worry about it that much now if I was going to those
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Joe Getty
line, three hour line to get into
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Jack Armstrong
the game, I'm an older man, I might need to have like an empty milk jug point on it. But yeah, yeah. If you are used to going to those viewing parties right outside the Garden which sound like just a great time.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah.
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Jack Armstrong
I would resent that some, that they, those were closed down.
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Joe Getty
So the booing might have been. It's a Democratic city in the same way that la, no matter what happens, as we just saw, is going to vote for a Democrat. New York's kind of that way. So they don't like Trump anyway. And then you waited in line for three hours. That does not exactly set up the mood of the crowd to cheer you when they were in line for three hours to get in to sit in there. Somewhere between 7,000 and a million dollar seat.
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Jack Armstrong
Yikes.
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Joe Getty
Anyway, it was during the national anthem that they put Trump up on the screen. Is there some cheering?
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, there's some cheer. I, I would have called it because I was watching it live. 65, 35, 2/3, a third, who cares?
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Joe Getty
Oh, it doesn't matter. That's a meaningless thing.
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Jack Armstrong
Far from the greatest challenge the Republic is facing. I, at the present moment, I couldn't
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Joe Getty
stop just trying to recognize people in the front row every time there was a player, a timeout or whatever. And I was wondering do the, did those people like, had they ever met before? Do they know each other or do you become friends or like now that Chalamet and Spike Lee are high fiving or had they Ever met before. Nick's thing got out. It got out. And. Or Ben Stiller or how about Rahm Emanuel and Larry David? That was a good pairing right there. I don't know if they'd ever met before, but man, they're high fiving each other.
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Jack Armstrong
And so I really, full disclosure, I'm just not an NBA fan at this point in my life. And I didn't watch the game, but I was caught. I was intrigued by the fact that. What is her name, the actress? She was on one of the police procedures for years. Margaret Haggarty or you know, the woman I'm talking about. Michael. Right. What the hell's her name?
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Joe Getty
Is it Marisha or.
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Steve Hilton
No, no, no, I know who you're talking about.
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Joe Getty
I'm going to assume it's a celebrity.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, it's a woman. Yeah. She was like. Well, I just said she was on a police procedural that was a super big hit for a long time. Margaret. Anyway, she was in the front row and I'm like, really?
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Steve Hilton
Really?
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Joe Getty
Yeah.
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Jack Armstrong
She's starring in a new show, I think on Broadway. It's revival or something. Mariska Hargitay. That's it. Yeah. Mariska Hargitay. That's a billboard. They bought a billboard for the show there at Courtside.
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Joe Getty
That's a good.
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Jack Armstrong
There's Marissa Hargaday. She's starring in the new revival of Whatever the Hell.
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Joe Getty
It's like buying an ad.
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Jack Armstrong
Brigadoon. Yeah.
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Joe Getty
Mostly it's super rich people. So I'm assuming that Tracy Morgan, who won $90 million because that Walmart truck hit him and almost killed him, so he's among the super rich and he's at all the Knicks games. He was sitting in the front row with Tina Fey next to him. I wonder if he went ahead and, you know, said, I'll you come to
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Jack Armstrong
the game with me.
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Joe Getty
They started together back on 30 Rock together, worked Saturday Night Live.
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Jack Armstrong
Truly funny show.
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Joe Getty
The, the, the Rama Manual. Larry David, Robert Kraft, three people in a row. Like, I don't know if they're friends or if they met for the first time there at the oh, hey, you know, be just kind of a weird oh hey moment. Just like somebody you've seen on oh, hey, you're the guy that owns the Patriots.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, you're the guy that might be
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Joe Getty
the next president and you shake hands.
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Jack Armstrong
I would wait three hours in line to overhear their conversation.
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Joe Getty
No kidding.
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Jack Armstrong
That's an interesting grouping. Yeah, all the way around.
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Joe Getty
It was that way everywhere, man. The, the coolest one, though. Was I become. I'm kind of a Jalen Brunson fanboy. Even though I'm rooting for the Spurs. Got into him last year. He is some super stud performer. But anyway, he had some amazing clutch plays last night with the crowd going crazy and everything like that. And they go over to also in the front row, Derek Jeter sitting with Eli Manning, high fiving. I thought there is some guys that understand what it's like to be in front of that crowd and perform well right under pressure.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, that was a cool group right there. Coming up, your birth order affects your future, but not for the reason you think. Jack. How do I always respond to a headline like that? How do you know what I think? But really interesting science about birth order. Holy cats.
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Joe Getty
You think? Okay, well, I'll have to hear this.
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Jack Armstrong
Well, are you a scientist? Are you? Answer the question. I'm just not answering.
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Steve Hilton
Folks.
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Jack Armstrong
I could be in Congress and do one of those hearings.
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Joe Getty
Look at me. He's not. Yeah, I know, exactly. You answer the question. I'm trying to answer the question. Every time I start dancer, I reclaim my time. Yes. And then you yell I reclaim my time. And nobody knows what that means. So you stop talking.
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Jack Armstrong
No way to run a republic, folks. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. This is the best weekend talk show in America.
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