The Best Weekend Talk Show In America Hour Two

Summary

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Episode: The Best Weekend Talk Show In America Hour Two

Date: May 25, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Notable Guest: Steve Hilton (California gubernatorial candidate)

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Overview

This episode dives into the latest political intrigue in California, the state's upcoming elections, socioeconomic anxieties about the cost of living, and reflections on what makes a meaningful commencement speech. Special guest Steve Hilton—a prominent Republican gubernatorial candidate—joins for an unfiltered conversation about the ‘jungle primary’ and the machinations behind current Democratic strategies. The hosts weave in humor with earnest analysis, offering both sharp critique and big-picture perspective.

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Key Discussion Points

1. California Politics: Newsom’s “Break the Glass” Scenario & the Gubernatorial Race

[03:11–11:44]

• The “Break the Glass” Scenario

  • Gov. Gavin Newsom hints at a mysterious Democratic emergency plan should two Republicans make California’s general election ballot—a highly unlikely event.
    • Joe Getty: "Gavin Newsom, the governor of California, suggesting that if there were two Republicans in the general election, there's some sort of break the glass scenario that the secret cabal knows about or something." [03:51]
  • Steve Hilton explains Newsom's real motive: ensuring only Democrats on the ballot to avoid critiques of his record as governor and to protect his presidential ambitions.
    • Steve Hilton: "Gavin Newsom is desperate to see two Democrats in the top two. So what he's trying to do with all of this is split the Republican vote, encourage Republican voters to support the other Republican, Chad Bianco...If there's two Democrats, they won't be talking about that." [05:41]

• Republican Vote Splitting

  • Newsom and allies are accused of propping up lesser Republican candidates to dilute Hilton’s support, making a two-Democrat ballot likelier.
    • Steve Hilton: "Every single vote for [Chad Bianco] just takes away votes from me. That makes it more likely you'll get two Democrats. We've got to be very, very clear and focused on that right now." [10:58]

• The Polls

  • Hilton leads significantly over other GOP candidates, yet split votes threaten an all-Democrat general election.
    • Steve Hilton: "In the latest poll, I was 22%. Tom Steyer, 15. Champion was on 10%, less than half of my support." [07:16]

• Democratic Candidates Critiqued

  • Hilton roasted rivals Tom Steyer (“billionaire climate fanatic”) and Javier Becerra (“incompetent”) in biting, memorable fashion:
    • Steve Hilton: "How unpopular do you think you have to be if you can try and bribe the voters with nearly $200 million and they still are saying not really, Tom Steyer?" [09:01]
    • Steve Hilton: "They cannot believe it. And you gotta ask, how useless do you have to be if Joe Biden and his administration think you're incompetent?" [10:05]
  • Both hosts and Hilton relished “mashed potato jokes” about Katie Porter, lamenting her drop in the polls.

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2. The State’s “Jungle Primary” System

[04:06–05:07]

• Explains California's nonpartisan primary system, where the top two vote-getters advance, regardless of party.
  • Jack Armstrong: “We got the weird thing in California jungle primary where if the top two vote getters... are both Republicans or Democrats, then the other party isn't in the election anymore.” [04:06]

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3. California’s Urban & Social Issues

[12:33–14:41]

• Homelessness and Social Services

  • The hosts argue California’s generous services attract transients, worsening the homelessness and drug crisis.
    • Joe Getty: "They flock to Free Adle. Sure. Portlandia and Cal Unicornia because of all the benefits and the needles and the food and the tents and the hands off approach..." [12:56]
  • Becerra is described with extreme disdain for his alignment with public employee unions.
    • Joe Getty: "Javier Becerra is a street walking hoe for those special interests... He's like a bus station twenty dollar hoe for the special union." [13:24]
  • The conversation highlights corruption, poor policy, and a declining quality of life.

• Jaywalking, Crime, and Pedestrian Deaths

  • California decriminalized jaywalking—ostensibly for equity, but hosts argue it mostly increases chaos and pedestrian fatalities:
    • Joe Getty: “The decriminalization of jaywalking wasn’t mentioned in the article, but it seems like a pretty obvious reason.” [23:57]
    • Jack Armstrong: “That's freedom to walk.” [23:55]

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4. Societal Reflections: Cost of Living & Historical Comparison

[29:54–39:14]

• Discussing Roland Fryer’s Wall Street Journal analysis of why families feel squeezed despite higher inflation-adjusted income.

  • Joe Getty: "Median family income has risen by more than half, from about $68,000 to $106,000 in inflation-adjusted terms. A gain of roughly $38,000 a year." [31:36]
  • Rising costs for mortgages, daycare, and healthcare eat away those gains, and modern families have “less slack” and room for error.
    • Joe Getty: “For many families, that means the reserve is gone... Today, most parents already work. That means one job loss, one medical crisis... and the entire structure comes under pressure.” [36:42]

• Comparison with 1975:

  • Jack Armstrong: “We lived in a very small house.” [33:30]
  • Eating out then versus now; technological gains and cleaner air now but tradeoffs in lifestyle and economic risk.

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5. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Steve Hilton, on Becerra’s career:
  "They cannot believe it. And you gotta ask, how useless do you have to be if Joe Biden and his administration think you're incompetent?" [10:05]

• Joe Getty on commencement speeches:
  "That's just trying to recruit people to your political side or party or to contribute to their donation to your whatever... That's not what you need to go out into the world. You need, like, overall perspective about the big things, like Eric Church's speech." [46:05–49:09]

• Eric Church (Country music star, commencement speaker at UNC):

  • “There's a sound only you can make, a voice that has never existed before you and will never exist again... When all six [strings] are in tune with each other, the chord your life makes is full and resonant...” [42:48–45:03]

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6. Restaurant Health & “Freedom” Quotes

[18:23–19:08]

• Hosts riff on LA’s vermin infested restaurants, making light of urban squalor with dark humor.

  • Jack Armstrong: "As in you'll find in your Slurpee between 7 and 11 rat droppings. No, that's not true. That's actually not true. No need to sue us." [18:38]

• The “freedom-loving quote of the day”:

  • Joe Getty: “The only real prison is fear and the only real freedom is freedom from fear.” [19:08]

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7. Social Commentary & Humor

• Riffing on Instagram’s new disappearing photo feature:

  • Jack Armstrong: “Please just say nudes. That's a good point. What else are you sending ever that needs to disappear?” [27:37]

• AI in the Economy:

  • Brief musings on how AI might upend traditional economic laws. [37:37]

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8. Graduation Speeches: Meaningful vs. Political

[42:06–49:30]

• Applauding Eric Church’s University of North Carolina address, which focused on authenticity, adversity, and personal harmony, not politics.

  • Eric Church: “Life won't be right until it is tuned. Trust what your heart hears and is telling you about your song so graduates. Now, take your six strings, make it something worth hearing, and play your song.” [45:03]

• Critique of politically charged commencement speakers (e.g., Robert Reich), arguing commencement is for wisdom, not partisanship:

  • Joe Getty: “That's just trying to recruit people to your political side or party... as opposed to what I think most of us assume a commencement speaker, graduation speaker is there to do. And that's give a gift to the kids, to give them something to enrich them somehow...” [46:05]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:11] – Start of main content, political turbulence recap
• [04:19] – California’s “jungle primary” and Newsom’s strategy
• [05:41] – Steve Hilton explains Newsom’s motive; criticizes other candidates
• [09:01–10:50] – Hilton on Steyer, Becerra, and California Democrats’ weaknesses
• [12:56] – Homelessness and transients in California
• [13:24] – Blistering critique of Becerra & unions
• [29:54] – “Why does everything feel more expensive?” – cost of living analysis
• [42:48] – Eric Church’s commencement speech excerpt and reflection
• [46:05] – On the purpose and spirit of graduation speeches

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Overall Tone

• Conversational and quick-witted, with moments of biting satire and cultural critique.
• Cynical-yet-hopeful: Hosts are dismayed by political dysfunction and social problems, but still seek practical wisdom and deeper meaning.
• Mix of humor and earnestness: Frequent “off-the-cuff” banter, but a steady return to sincere commentary, especially around themes of life, meaning, and civic engagement.

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Conclusion

This hour is a quintessential Armstrong & Getty mix: political deep-dives, sharp-tongued criticisms, and thoughtful cultural reflections—punctuated by memorable guest appearances and a drive to decode the headlines with skepticism and humor. The standout is Eric Church’s life advice—to “tune your strings”—which the hosts praise as exactly the kind of uplifting, real-world wisdom sorely missing from today’s public discourse.

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Thanks for tuning in. The best weekend talk show in America. We're Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

It was a tumultuous week as usual. What the heck is going on with the war with Iran? Are we going to get back to that? And those three loser fake journalists at the Luigi Mangione trial? What was going on with that? That it's just the beginning. There's so much to talk about.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you want more tumult, we do 20 hours of live radio every single week.

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And then we boil it down to the best.

[Jack Armstrong]

We call it the best weekend talk show in America. I've said this before.

[Joe Getty]

It's all repeated. I don't anticipate this need to be the case. But there is a break the glass scenario and there's many people that have a deep understanding of what it would look like if Democrats were locked out. And we're going to do everything to

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make sure that doesn't happen.

[Joe Getty]

I'll leave it there. Gavin Newsom, the governor of California, suggesting that if there were two Republicans in the general election, there's some sort of break the glass scenario that the secret cabal knows about or something.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, we got the weird thing in California jungle primary where if the top two vote getters, you know, coming up here soon are both Republicans or Democrats, then the other party isn't in the election anymore.

[Joe Getty]

Right, Exactly. So what does that mean? What's the state of the race? So many questions for Steve Hilton, who is running to be governor of the great state of California and doing quite well indeed. Steve, welcome. How are you?

[Steve Hilton]

I'm very well. Great to be with you.

[Joe Getty]

Do you have the slightest idea what Gavin Newsom was talking about? His break the glass strategy?

[Steve Hilton]

I do, actually. His break the glass strategy is designed to get two Democrats in the top two. Here's why he needs that.

[Joe Getty]

How would he do that?

[Steve Hilton]

Because. Well, by splitting the Republican vote. That's why he's raising the specter of two Republicans, which is obviously impossible and has been impossible for months. But he needs two Democrats in the top two because he is running for president. We know that the only thing Gavin Newsom cares about is his presidential campaign. He's completely uninterested in California.

[Jack Armstrong]

And so two things being president and his hair.

[Steve Hilton]

I think that's a very fair point. And actually, you very. I appreciate you making that comment very much because, of course, it enables me to really lay out to everyone listening the number one reason that they need to vote for me in this election, which is it is way past time we had a governor with less hair. That's very important.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. So you think Gavin is actively trying to back Chad Bianco, who's the other Republican in the race.

[Steve Hilton]

Exactly. That's what he's trying to do, Ben, and they're all trying to do that. Here's why. He knows that if there's a Republican in the general election, and right now it's looking like that's going to be me because I'm leading in the polls, with one exception, which we'll get to in a second. He knows that if there's a Republican in the general election, there will be a very aggressive prosecution of his record as governor, because that's the whole point that we need change from his record as governor. If there's two Democrats, they won't be talking about that. They'll be outbidding each other. And then the further point, if a Republican is elected governor next in November and takes office in January, that's a complete disaster for Newsom's presidential hopes, because just as he's beginning his campaign for president, you're going to have a Republican governor in California. His message to the Democratic primary vote is, I just lost California. I lost our crown jewel. And then you're going to have a Republican governor, me, not just cleaning up the mess he left behind, but in the process, exposing to the whole country what a completely useless governor he was. He can't afford any of that. Gavin Newsom is desperate to see two Democrats in the top two. So what he's trying to do with all of this is split the Republican vote, encourage Republican voters to support the other Republican, Chad Bianco's. He has actually no chance of making it into the top two. In the latest poll, I was 22%. Tom Steyer, 15. Champion was on 10%, less than half of my support. There's absolutely zero chance that he makes into the top two. But the more that Gavin Newsom raises that possibility, the more people, more Republicans might support Chad, the more likely it is that we'll actually Have Becerra versus Steyer. It's a very important moment that Republicans do not buy the Gavin Newsom narrative and understand that we do have a risk because of that one poll last week which really had a three way tie at the top, myself, Becerra and Steyer. There is still a risk that we have two Democrats in the top two. And that means that there is no chance for change in California. We'll lose the congressional races, the state legislative races, probably voter ID as well. It's a very serious moment. If you're a Republican voter planning to vote for a Republican in the governor's race in order to get changed, you have to understand that a vote for Chad Bianco is a vote for two Democrats in the top two.

[Joe Getty]

Now, your phone actually glitched out when you were talking about the on the Democrat side, it being essentially a bidding war. And I'd love for you to finish that sentence and feel free to comment on the dismal, you know, assemblage of non talent that is on that side. And look, I'm a staunch conservative. I identify as a Republican. There are many talented and reasonable Democrats around the world or around the country.

[Jack Armstrong]

Get out of my effing shot.

[Joe Getty]

But this group does not include any of them. So what was that about bidding and. Good Lord. Javier Becerra, Are you kidding me?

[Steve Hilton]

I know, it's amazing, isn't it? Well, if you come and listen to me on the road and my stump speech and I run through the reasons that I think we can. This is our year. We really could bring our state back, save California and get rid of 16 years of Democrat one party rule. I lay out four reasons why I think that's possible. And the third is the Democrat candidates, our secret weapons. This year I'm very upset that Katie Porter seems to be fading. I was so looking forward to all the mashed potato jokes, but I think we'll have to save them for another race. Unfortunately. Looks like she's mate. She's, she's not in the running. So sty. Well, first of all, Steyer, I mean let's just get to him. He's now spent $193 million and we're still beating him. I mean it's just amazing. This billionaire climate fanatic, how unpopular do you think you have to be if you can try and bribe the voters with nearly $200 million and they still are saying not really Tom Steyer? And then let's look at Becerra. I mean there's so many things, but let's just focus on the number one. Ever since he started rising in the polls, you've got this movement of Biden officials, senior officials in the Biden administration, sharing stories about Becerra's rise with the subject line on their chat group, is this a joke? And so, because they cannot. They cannot believe it. And you got to ask, how useless do you have to be if Joe Biden and his administration think you're incompetent?

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Good point.

[Steve Hilton]

That's where we're at. The bidding war will be. If it's Becerra and Steyer, what do you think they'll be going for? Who can go more left? I mean, you got stier. What's he going to do, abolish ice? More of the climate insanity? Didn't he say he wants to bring back illegal immigrant criminals who've been deported? I mean, this guy is just a joke. And that's what the whole campaign will be. We can't afford that. We got to wake up anyone who hasn't voted yet. If there's only one chance for change in California, and that is to get me in the top two, got to vote for me. No other choice makes sense.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, have you personally talked to Mr. Bianco and said, hey, would you do Republicans a solid and get out of

[Joe Getty]

the race and Californians?

[Steve Hilton]

I have. I have. I was reaching out at the end of last week. I'm afraid that effort came to nothing. He's. That's not where he's at. Look, this is nothing personal. I got to be clear. I like Chad. I've got nothing personal at all. And as I've said many times, if he was, if the positions were reversed, I would be proud and happy to support him and campaign for him, because we got to have change in California really is not personal. It's. At this point, two weeks ago, less than two weeks before election day. It's just about the math. It's very simple. And there is no chance of Chad making it into the top two. And so every single vote for him just takes away votes from me. That makes it more likely you'll get two Democrats. We've got to be very, very clear and focused on that right now. Nothing personal. It's purely the math.

[Joe Getty]

Steve Hilton running for governor of the biggest state in the union, Cal Unicornia. Steve, good luck. Keep fighting the good fight. And it's good to talk to you.

[Steve Hilton]

Wonderful to be with you. Thanks, guys. See you soon.

[Joe Getty]

Yep. Yep. The whole. Well, I was going to pound on Javier Becerra a little More. That's.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why do you think Bianco won't get out?

[Joe Getty]

He probably doesn't trust the polls. Serious man. And he has his vision of what he'd like to accomplish. I just don't think he's ready to give it up yet.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, while Steve Hilton is absolutely correct, obviously, mathematically he's got twice the support. 22 to 10 with its spread so thin and lots of undecided. Yeah. And I'm not sure I would get out either.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

At this point, I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a tough one. I mean, if you're, if you really think we need to go a completely different direction, maybe I would get out. Make sure. Because the idea of, the idea of continuing down the same path when you got half the homeless people in the country in your state for interest, for instance, while the bullet train continues to be a thing, just. It's unbelievable.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. We got a. An email. Was an email or an article, I can't remember about how overwhelming the number of outsiders are among the junkie population because they flock to Free Adle. Sure. Portlandia and Cal Unicornia because of all the benefits and the needles and the food and the tents and the hands off approach and stuff like that. The problem is though, you're 100% right about the share of the electorate. That's not part of the special interests, which is the public employee and allied unions and the trial attorneys and the people they control. Because Javier Becerra is a street walking hoe for those special interests. I mean, he's a prostitute and not like a high dollar Las Vegas one. He's like a bus station twenty dollar hoe for the special union.

[Jack Armstrong]

The.

[Joe Getty]

That's rough.

[Jack Armstrong]

Twenty bucks with, with inflation where it

[Joe Getty]

is, twenty bucks a month. I stand by my characterization. Wow. As troubling as it may have been to some. And that's. That's the only standard there is for winning the Democratic nomination. And so, you know, the unions have lined up behind him because he is a bland, incompetent rubber stamp for their desires.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think a venti mocha at Starbucks is like 12.

[Joe Getty]

So a $20. I know, I know. I feel bad for people that find themselves in that situation, should have stayed in high school. You know, Steve actually made a good point. Can you imagine the people of the Biden administration say, oh, he's an incompetent hack. Yeah, that's an indictment. Wow.

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[Joe Getty]

Here's your freedom loving quote of the day. Looking for new quotes about freedom? Aung San Su Ki, who was the activist in won the Nobel Prize, one of your Asian countries. The only real prison is fear and the only real freedom is freedom from fear. I'd try that, but I'm afraid. To Carrie Jones, whose work I don't know. Similarly, the secret of happiness is freedom. The secret of freedom is courage. There you go. Be courageous, friends. Quit Being a scaredy cat. Mailbag. Woot woot.

[Jack Armstrong]

Drop us a note.

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Mailbagarmstrongandgetti.com here's your meme of the day. San Francisco is banning outdoor smoking. I missed that. Who is San Francisco outdoor smoking?

[Steve Hilton]

His smoking pot.

[Joe Getty]

But anyway, I'll finish this and we can discuss.

[Jack Armstrong]

You can't smoke in the bar or outside the bar.

[Steve Hilton]

Correct.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's not. There's no way. There's no way you can make that work.

[Joe Getty]

San Francisco is banning outdoor smoking because the last thing people want to do is smell a disgusting cigarette while they're pooping on the sidewalk.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now, now, now.

[Joe Getty]

Now that San Francisco's trying, they're doing better. They got a new mayor.

[Jack Armstrong]

Are they going to enforce the no smoking in the whole city, though?

[Joe Getty]

I don't know much about it. Yeah, I have no idea. Here's a note from Ken. Listen to your show talking about Michael Jackson, which we were yesterday. I had contact with a couple of the Santa Barbara Sheriff's investigators back in the day who were looking into the allegations. Children were able to describe specific features about his pennis. How would a child be able to do that without completely inappropriate behavior happening? He paid off the families, forced NDAs to stay out of jail. He was absolutely guilty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Booty rumbles.

[Joe Getty]

I also knew boy. I also knew people that worked at Neverland Ranch and nurses at the Santa Ines hospital. They all said he was incredibly nice and charming. A skill he used for his predatory behavior.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, if you want to learn about the Booty Rumbles, we went through that whole story yesterday.

[Joe Getty]

If you don't, that's fine too.

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[Joe Getty]

One final pop. Culturally. Culturally note. We were talking about Mickey Mantle yesterday in the context that all of the men in his family died young. So he just partied like a maniac, figuring he was going to die anyway. Hastening his death.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

Better hitter than thinker, as it turns out. But what are you going to do? We got this note from E. Mickey Mantle was a friend of my dad's. Cool. When he moved to Lake Okany, Georgia. Is that how you pronounce it?

[Jack Armstrong]

He was fun to hang out.

[Joe Getty]

He would hang out at my dad's house and got drunk as a three eyed monkey.

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I don't know that one.

[Joe Getty]

I didn't know what it means. But it's funny. I was in college at the time and was visiting my dad and he was there. He signed a Mickey mantle 4x6 photocard for me and asked me what my apartment number was. So I told him. He wrote to room 214. Best time I ever had. Mickey Mantle, I thought, what a drunk pig.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Charming tale of the baseball great. Drunk as a three eyed monkey. Yeah, if I still drank, I'd use that one. Wow. And let's see. Adam with a note about. Oh, I guess we talked about this one more thing or something. Gavin Newsom in Cal Unicornia persuaded the legislature to. What's the difference of outlaw? Legalize jaywalking. Because jaywalking charges fell disproportionately on people of color. And any sane person would say, well, do they do it disproportionately? That's why.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I think it had to do a lot to do with the homeless situation too. So you don't have to. You can just let the homeless wander around.

[Joe Getty]

Right. And. Or legitimate drug addicts. Well, right, yeah. Citizens law abiding citizens were like, you just gave me a ticket for this while five junkies went across the street. Well, we can't do anything about that because they don't have an address and we can't find them because they won't pay. So we just enforce the law against the law abiding. But anyway, numbers have just come out about the rapid increase in pedestrian deaths around the capital of Sacramento.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, well, I will be today at noon for this thing I've been going to every Wednesday. And the junkie population there is stunning. Yeah, I had no idea it was that bad because I hadn't been right there on that street on the other side of the Capitol in a while.

[Joe Getty]

It's incredible.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's so gross.

[Joe Getty]

And Adam writes, the timing was sadly perfect after you guys were just talking about suicidal empathy, which I want to talk about more. But when our genius governor signed off on the freedom to walk act, I just vomited in my mouth a little bit.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's freedom to walk.

[Joe Getty]

I made a mental note to check some obviously affected statistics after giving it some time. Ba ba ba. The decriminalization of jaywalking wasn't mentioned in the article, but it seems like a pretty obvious reason. I don't know what else to say. It's pretty low on my list of worries added to the things that make me feel like I live in the movie Idiocracy. Cheers. Same to you, Adam. Cheers. Get as drunk as a three eyed monk.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ah, boy. Too bad about all the rat droppings in the restaurants.

[Joe Getty]

Your policy sucks and does the opposite of what you intend. But it makes me feel good and it sounds noble. Oh my God. Grow up, Armstrong and Gettys.

[Jack Armstrong]

Foreign

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[Jack Armstrong]

Please just say nudes. That's a good point. What else are you saying? That sending ever that needs to disappear. Here's my kid on his new bike. Gotta have it disappear within 30 seconds.

[Joe Getty]

I don't want anybody seeing it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't want it hanging around out there on the Internet.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's great.

[Jack Armstrong]

We have, I think, breaking news. I can't find it, though. Where is that coming from? Okay, hold on.

[Joe Getty]

This is worth getting to tease something America's increasingly saying. AI b o o. The anti AI backlash has begun in earnest. Now back to Jack searching for breaking news.

[Jack Armstrong]

Iran has submitted their new proposal. So Trump threatened obliteration again. Then late yesterday put out a long truth social post that was both a threat and a pause. If you're not following through on this, we remain ready to obliterate you. All right, don't get all boys guy on me, but I've been told by three different Arab countries to hold off because we're close to a deal. Iran has submitted their new proposal to the United States to end the war. The terms include five demands. US Troops leaving areas close to Iran. That's probably okay. Maybe the US Paying war reparations, and end of. I don't need to read the rest. Lifting sanctions on Iran, releasing Iran's frozen assets, and ending the U.S. blockade. Okay, well, I would like to quote

[Joe Getty]

one of the great thinkers of our time. I say again, putting in there paying

[Jack Armstrong]

war reparations is just like whizzing on you or something. Yeah, I mean, no, it's like flipping you off. Hey, here's my new proposal.

[Joe Getty]

Or. Or back in the day, you might have been turning your back and dropping your pants.

[Jack Armstrong]

Delightful tradition known as mooning. Yes, that is exactly what that is. It's verbal mooning. Here's my new proposal.

[Joe Getty]

How do you like this? You want to sign on to this?

[Jack Armstrong]

Sign on the dotted line right there. Always.

[Joe Getty]

Folks, he's been over in a wagon. It's to illustrate in the studio. Shocking.

[Jack Armstrong]

Don't ever do that again.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, Michael, I join you in that request. All right, so coming up The. Excuse me, the backlash against AI but first, absolutely love Roland Fryer. Do you know Roland? He's a youngish, gosh, 30 something, maybe 40 year old black man. Not that that matters, but you might recognize him. He's an economist. He's just a. A shaker upper of conventional wisdom. And he's a professor at Harvard, founder of Equal Opportunity Ventures, senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute. He's a realist and a conservative. Anyway, so he's doing this analysis of why everything feels more expensive in the Wall Street Journal and it's of course, Jack, of course.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because it's more expensive. Did I ruin it?

[Joe Getty]

Thanks. Thanks for nothing. Of course it is adjusted for inflation, because anything that's not is so stupid you ought to hold whoever wrote it in whatever analysis in, you know, low, low esteem. So he points out. Well, he starts with the inevitable specific person which we'll skip over. But recent CBS News YouGov poll found that 83% of Americans say it's harder to buy a home than it was for previous generations. And 77% say it's harder to raise family financially. They are not wrong, but the explanation is more complicated than either side's populists. Adm. So let's start with family income since 1975, and again, all adjusted for inflation.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm skeptical of this, so I look forward to hearing these numbers because I'm thinking on my mom and dad were raising us and they bought their first house at like 18% interest and blah, blah, blah.

[Joe Getty]

Skip to the end. We're at the beginning. Since 1975, median family income has risen by more than half, from about 68,000 to 106,000 in inflation adjusted terms.

[Steve Hilton]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

A gain of roughly $38,000 a year.

[Jack Armstrong]

You never hear that now that's family income, sure.

[Joe Getty]

But much of the difference comes from one of the most important social shifts of the past half century. Labor force participation among married mothers rose from about 45% in the mid-70s. I'm actually slightly surprised it was that high.

[Jack Armstrong]

I am too.

[Joe Getty]

From 45% to 72% last year. But for families with young children, much of that $38,000 gain is spoken for before it ever hits the bank account. To wit, a year's worth of mortgage payments, adjusted for inflation, has risen from about $16,000 in 1975 to $25,000 last year or so, an increase of $9,000. So there goes nine of that $38,000. Workers now contribute about $7,000 a year in premiums for family health insurance, roughly Double the real cost back in 1999. Don't go back to 75.

[Jack Armstrong]

Double from. Feels like it's double from not that long ago.

[Joe Getty]

Amen to that, brother. Full day. Full day. Daycare for a single child typically runs 6,500 to 15,5 depending on age and location. A cost most families in the 1970s didn't occur at all, incur at all added up in these three expenses absorbed most of the $38,000 gain, leaving many families, especially those with young children or in high cost cities with roughly the same disposable income their parents had despite earning more. Would you like now, Jack, because this is your wheelhouse to get into the much larger houses, more cars, more lavish lifestyle.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was thinking about that when you said the house. Well, okay, maybe your mortgage payment is higher, but are you living in twice the size house as the previous generations? We lived in a very small house.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, as did we. Yeah, my kids grew up in a very small house until we started to make a little money and then it got substantially larger. So it's just a priority these days in a way. It wasn't back in the day when most of the housing was built post WW2 for servicemen, their families. And, and, and it was all about the. It wasn't about your palatial home, and I'm not judging, I have a large home. But it was about your backyard barbecue with all your neighbors and being at the park in the ball field and in lawn chairs on your front lawn, you know, just. Or at the bowling alley or at the civic organization or whatever. It reminds me of articles I've read about urban dwellers who have the little studio apartment like in New York and they say, well, I don't really spend much time here. I, I shower here, I sleep here, maybe I have a meal here.

[Jack Armstrong]

So when I was childless, yeah, where I lived didn't make any difference. I was only going there to shower and change clothes. Well, I wish this would just be recognized more. We can still have conversations about things being more expensive or whatever. Like what it costs to eat out has quadrupled since the 70s. Here's the big difference.

[Joe Getty]

We ate out twice a year when

[Jack Armstrong]

I was a kid. Like then that's not much of an exaggeration. So what it cost to eat out was really kind of irrelevant given the fact that we never did.

[Joe Getty]

So back to Roland Fryer analyzing cost of living. He says the color the culprit is structural, not political. Economists call it bow moles, cost disease B A U M O L. I didn't run into that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Never heard this before.

[Joe Getty]

Maybe old Baumo hadn't spit out his theory yet when I was in school. Productivity gains tend to concentrate in goods cars, clothing, televisions, food as technology steadily drives prices down. But many services, like teaching a kindergarten class, change little over time. As incomes rise, wages must rise across the board. Otherwise employees leave for higher paying sectors. Labor intensive services grow more expensive not because something went wrong, but because everything else becomes more productive. Dada.

[Jack Armstrong]

Duh.

[Joe Getty]

Before indicting the economy, consider what 50 years of growth actually delivered. The car in your driveway is far less likely to kill you than its 1975 counterpart. And he goes into the enormous fall in traffic fatalities in the last 50 years. The average American reaching 65 today can expect to live 3.6 more years than in 1975. The air is 80% cleaner. The access to search engines, email and digital maps have a huge value in time and ease and blah blah, blah.

[Jack Armstrong]

You don't have to listen. You don't have to listen to disco.

[Joe Getty]

It's a good point too. 1975 middle class family may have had more cash left at the end of the month, but they also faced higher risks of violent crime, breathed dirtier air and waited for everything evening news to learn what was happening in the world. That was better. Rolling. Yes. That was better. Better.

[Jack Armstrong]

And that depends on where you live. I didn't grow up anywhere where we had any violent crime ever.

[Joe Getty]

So yeah, yeah. So one more bit of analysis. So why, given small, similar discretionary income in a much better world, does the middle class feel squeezed? The answer lies in what the numbers miss. Slack. When a larger share of income is committed to fixed costs, even similar disposable income feels more constrained. For many families, that means the reserve is good gone. In 1975, a second income often sat in reserve. A non working parent who could enter the labor force if needed. Today, most parents already work. That means one job loss, one medical crisis, one divorce and the entire structure comes under pressure because you don't have that. That pinch hitter sitting in the getting loose in the bullpen. Of course your pinch hitters don't get loose in the bullpen. Your pitchers do. Tortured metaphor takes a terrible, terrible beating. And then he gets into geography and expensive cities and that sort of thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

I wonder, I wonder how many of your major economic rules, laws, axioms get completely blown up by AI no longer work because of AI when it takes

[Joe Getty]

over, I have no idea about a lot of them. You're blowing my mind. Oh, you know, it's Funny. He he then he goes into a mental exercise. Then we should take a break. About the antidote psychologists prescribe is mental subtraction. Deliberately imagine life without what you take for granted. Try it with 1975. No airbags, much higher risk of being robbed. Three television networks we've added, blah blah blah. You know it's funny that I saw airbags and thought air conditioning. I grew up in Chicagoland where the summers were absolutely sweltering and my parents had no air conditioning until several years after I moved out of the house as my soft soft little brother enjoyed the slightly higher family affluence.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or if you had air conditioning, Jimmy Carter wouldn't let you run it.

[Joe Getty]

So yeah, yeah, be sweatered bastard. Well, so how much lower were my my parents energy bills adjusted for inflation than mine right now, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

No kidding.

[Joe Getty]

Oh God we were miserable. I was miserable. Just I do remember many hot hot

[Jack Armstrong]

nights and my kids have never had a hot night.

[Joe Getty]

I don't think oh yeah, we would run this big fan in our bedroom. My brother and I shared a bedroom trying to pull some air through the house, right? Blowing out the hot humid air in the house and sucking in some nice fresh hot humid air and you're late

[Jack Armstrong]

to replace laying on top of the sheets in just your underwear, just dripping sweat.

[Joe Getty]

Good times Armstrong and Gettysburg.

[Jack Armstrong]

Foreign.

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Church is a country music star, and he went a completely different direction the other day in his commencement speech at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, Tar Hills. And I have not heard the whole thing, I'll admit, because I was alerted yesterday by a listener that what we had on our podcast is just the summary. He goes through each one of those things point by point in his long speech, and it's really, really, really excellent and I look forward to hearing it. It's too long for our format, Right?

[Joe Getty]

Right. But you'll get the idea of what we missed as he summarizes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, this. This is CBS featured it last night. CBS News featured a country music star with this last night saying is one of the best graduation speeches of all time. I agree.

[H]

You were made uniquely, wonderfully, distinctly. There's a sound only you can make, a voice that has never existed before you and will never exist again. A contrast contribution only you can bring, a way of seeing that Belongs to only you. The world does not need another. Another cover song. It needs an original. Six strings. Six strings of life and willingness to keep them in tune. Six principles, six pillars. When all six are in tune with each other, the cord your life makes is full and resonant. In truth, all six will drift. Not one or two. All six in their own time, in their own season. Your faith will go quiet when you need it loud. Your family will get complicated in a way only the people who love you most can complicate things. You will go through hard seasons with your spouse. Your ambition will hollow out, and your resilience will wear thin. Your community will start to feel like an obligation. And your world will try to sand down the edges of exactly who you are. This is not failure. This is not weakness. It's the inevitable universal experience of living in an imperfect world that doesn't stop to let us tune up. And the difference between a life that sounds like music and a life that sounds like noise. It's whether you stop and listen. Whether you're honest enough to hear which string has drifted out of tune and humble enough to make the adjustment instead of just turning up the volume and hoping nobody notices. Because you will notice. The part of you that knows what the chord should sound like will always notice. It will not let you go. Life won't be right until it is tuned. Trust what your heart hears and is telling you about your song so graduates. Now, I encourage you to take your six strings, make it something worth hearing, and play your song as I leave you with mine.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then he plays a song. Oh, God. Oh, that is so. I gotta hear the whole thing where he goes through point by point and in greater depth. I understand. It's really, really great. But that idea of, you know, one of the areas of your life is out of tune and, you know, it is. You can just, like, go loud and hope nobody notices or get it back in tune.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. Or, you know, drink it away or what have you so you can ignore it. Or, you know, if you're talking actual music, hope your audience drinks enough that they don't notice it. But, yeah. Oh, my. That. As metaphors go, I mean, that is. What's the top number? 10. That's a 10.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. That is really good stuff right there. Why aren't there more graduation speeches that talk about, you know, living life being a happy, successful, productive human as opposed to, you know, bashing whatever political party. Oh, it's so annoying.

[Joe Getty]

You know, I would suggest that the person. I mean, like Robert Reich did that at UC Berkeley the other day made it very like current events, political right, riling you up against the evildoers on the right wing, blah blah, blah. That's an incredible act of selfishness to make that your speech. That's just trying to recruit people to your political side or party or to contribute to their donation to your whatever. Just trying to rally people to your side. As opposed to what I think most of us assume a commencement speaker, graduation speaker is there to do. And that's give a gift to the kids to give them something to enrich them somehow as they leave the cocoon and go out into the real world. Robert Reich didn't offer a gift. He made an ask F you Eric Church. Well done. I tip my non existent cowboy hat to you, sir.

[Jack Armstrong]

Remember when I mentioned that a therapist told me because I struggle with stacks of paperwork, always have have it hanging over my head all the time rather than ever getting it done. And this therapist told me just do one every day. One. I'll never get it done. Doing one a day. Of course I'm doing none a day. So you know, one a day would be. Anywho, whenever I do that, it works so great. First of all, you shoot for one, you end up doing three or four.

[Joe Getty]

Because you're in the groove.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sure, because you're in the groove. But just if you just get one a day at the end of the week, if you've done seven, which is a lot more than zero, I don't know why I can't just stick with that. Anywho, back to young people and the selfishness of that. Standing up there and giving a commencement speech about today's news basically and saying which side you should be on. I was in a.

[Joe Getty]

So lazy.

[Jack Armstrong]

I live in a college town. So we got a lot of college eateries and we were at this place here, they're kind of a cheap Chinese place. The other day, a local place with my kids and they, they really like it. And I was looking around the place and I said I am at least I might be 40 years older than every single person in here. I said to my kids, which is pretty funny in a, in a packed restaurant, but it's just look at all these people that the college age kids and just thinking, man, man, you got such a ride ahead of you. Good and bad, up and down, all the different stuff. And it just was pondering that at that moment and where I was and you know, would I want to go back and do it again? I don't know if I got the energy. But, you know, they got the. You have the energy. I guess if you're that age.

[Joe Getty]

That's funny. That's the exact conversation I had with a friend the other day. It's like, well, you know, you couldn't go back and do it now because you're. You don't have the energy of youth.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're a spending force.

[Joe Getty]

My youngster is going through that right now. She's interning with a big law firm. And she says, my God, it's exhausting. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, it is. At the beginning. That's how you get where you want to go.

[Jack Armstrong]

Part of it is the energy of youth. Part of it is you don't. You'd have to go back to that age and have your mind erased. Because if you've lived it all, you couldn't handle living it again, I don't think.

[Steve Hilton]

But.

[Jack Armstrong]

But just fitting that in with the graduation speeches. Yeah, don't hit. All those young people headed out of the world with what news is popular today and who's the evil guy in it. That's not. That's not what you need to go out into the world. You need, like, overall perspective about the big things, like Eric Church's speech.

[Joe Getty]

I agree 100%. Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

What a disservice that is to focus on who's going to be president for the next two years.

[Joe Getty]

The midterms.

[Jack Armstrong]

The midterms. As you head out into life to live the next 50, 60 years of your life.

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[Jack Armstrong]

What.

[Joe Getty]

What does this have to do with the incredible journey I'm about to take? Nothing, you selfish, sick bastards.

[Jack Armstrong]

Would be like saying to your. Your. Your. Your high school kid, and remember, the most important, important thing today is that Tommy Thomas Matzie loses in Kentucky.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my God.

[Steve Hilton]

Right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, wow.

[Joe Getty]

You stand up as the father of the. The bride and you say, the one piece of advice I'd like to give you is don't book a reception at this place. My fork was dirty. What kind of service is that? I mean, that's just terrible. Oh, my God. You oughta.

[Jack Armstrong]

They're insane. And brown Insane.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Focus on the big stuff. That's our point, Marco.

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Speaking of the next election, who in recent polling is way ahead of a certain bearded vice president? Fine with me. Polls of Republicans. Why should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on Demand.

[Jack Armstrong]

We're not boring.

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A lot of news is boring and tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that.

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