The A&G Replay Monday Hour Four

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: The A&G Replay Monday Hour Four

Date: June 29, 2026

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Episode Overview

This hour features a curated replay of recent Armstrong & Getty segments, focusing on contemporary American morality (as shown in Gallup’s new poll), the evolving acceptance of various social issues, insights on why everything feels more expensive, and a dive into parenting in the digital age. The hosts, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, maintain their classic blend of humor, skepticism, and cultural commentary throughout discussions that shift seamlessly from moral polling to chimpanzee civil wars to smartphone parenting dilemmas.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Gallup's Morality Poll: Is America a Moral Country?

[03:06 – 13:12]

• Theme: Public opinions on moral issues, and a substantial decline in collective confidence about America’s moral standing.
• Statistic: A record 50% of Americans believe national morals are poor.
  • Joe Getty: “Can I agree and simultaneously disagree with you?” [04:11]
  • Jack Armstrong: “It’s yet to be proven on planet Earth that you can have a moral society without [religion or church]…” [03:46]
• Discussion of Religion & Morality:
  • Atheist/libertarian skepticism on religion as a necessary moral anchor.
  • Reference to Scandinavia as a rare secular exception—“...they’re still swimming in the sea of Christianity, even all these years later.” [04:51, Michael quoting Tom Holland]
• Changing Moral Judgments:
  • Polygamy approval: Up from 7% (2003) to 23% (2026), possibly influenced by changing cultural demographics.
    • Joe Getty: “...a significant chunk of that change is Muslim folks and folks who don’t feel like they have any right to judge...” [05:58]
  • LGBTQ+ Acceptance: Support for gay marriage remains high, but moral acceptance of trans issues has notably declined; gay marriage dropped 6 points from its peak.
• Notable Quote:
  “Most Americans favor legal euthanasia…But having watched it unfold in a couple of countries, I am now a no, including Canada, which is just horrific.”
  — Joe Getty [06:56]

Most/Least Morally Acceptable Behaviors (Gallup 2026)

• Most Immoral (ascending order): Pornography (64%), Suicide (70%), Polygamy (77%), Human cloning (86%), Extramarital affairs (only 7% say 'morally acceptable').
  • Joe Getty & Michael joke: “Adulterous cloning.” [07:15]
• Most Moral: Birth control (83%), Divorce (74%), Unmarried sex (65%).
  • Joe Getty: “Even among Catholics, there are a lot of people who say, yeah, come on now.” [11:23]
• Surprises: Premarital sex still disapproved by 31%, divorce seen as “morally wrong” by 19%.
  • “If your excuse is, I fell out of love and I’m just not happy right now, then no, I don’t find that morally acceptable. Hate me if you want.”—Michael [10:52]

Transgender Issues

• Sharp drop in acceptance: “Moral acceptability of changing one’s gender hits a new record low.” [11:36]
  • Only 38% say it’s morally acceptable (down 8 points since 2021); 57% see it as morally wrong.
  • Joe Getty: “My question would be: to what extent do you think transgenderism is a healthy expression of psychological reality or an expression of a troubled soul desperate for an answer?” [12:11]
  • Michael: “If you asked me about promoting [transgenderism] to children…that is a different question. No.” [12:49]
  • Joe Getty: “If you demand that I group transgender activism at middle schools with gay and lesbian—...I’ve got to accept the whole thing or reject the whole thing. That’s a big ask.” [15:00]

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2. Nature & Culture Segment: Chimpanzee Civil War

[15:26 – 19:51]

• Topic: Wild chimps in Uganda are experiencing a “civil war”—24 chimps killed out of 200, highest known chimpanzee conflict in 500 years.
• Expert analysis (Colin Wright, evolutionary biologist):
  • Unlike typical chimp battles (which are usually over females or territory with unrelated groups), these were related groups that split recently.
  • “Over the course of a decade, but kind of all of a sudden…there was an abrupt segregation of the groups. Their social networks became increasingly isolated…and started raiding each other’s chimp groups—which is a terrible and bloody thing.” — Joe Getty [17:21]
• Takeaway: Even “close kin groups” can become enemies due to social drift—a natural, not ideological, schism.
• Memorable Moment:
  • Joe Getty (paraphrasing Lincoln): “A chimp group divided against itself cannot stand.” [19:22]

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3. Why Does Everything Feel More Expensive? Roland Fryer’s Analysis

[25:29 – 34:41]

• Guest spotlight: Roland Fryer, Harvard economist, analyzed U.S. cost-of-living trends.
• Main Finding:
  • Median family incomes are up since 1975 (from $68k to $106k, adjusted). But the gains are eaten up by higher mortgages, health insurance, and childcare, leaving families with roughly the same “spare” cash as prior generations.
    • Joe Getty: “A year’s worth of mortgage payments, adjusted for inflation, has risen from about $16,000 in 1975 to $25,000 last year.” [28:16]
    • Plus, daycare ($6,500–$15,500 a year) and health insurance (roughly doubled since 1999).
  • Larger houses, more cars, more “stuff” means people spend more, but the psychological “slack” is gone—there’s little left if something goes wrong.
• Structural Cause: Baumol’s cost disease—productivity gains lower prices in goods, but not in services (like teaching), so services just get more expensive as overall incomes rise.
• Lifestyle Change Reflection: Previously, a nonworking parent offered a financial “reserve” if needed; now, most two-parent families have both parents working, so one job loss hits much harder.
• Notable Quote:
  “When a larger share of income is committed to fixed costs…even similar disposable income feels more constrained. For many families, that means the reserve is gone.”
  — Joe Getty, summarizing Fryer [32:03]
• Humorous Reflection: “My kids have never had a hot night. I don’t think.” — Michael, on improvements like air conditioning [34:19]

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4. Modern Parenting: Parental Controls & the 'Phone Problem'

[37:32 – 43:48]

• Apple News: Rolling out new parental controls—expanded child accounts, control over contacts, time limits, app restrictions.
  • Joe Getty: “You only think about this every day because they walk around with the worst neighborhood on planet Earth in their hand...” [37:49]
• Skepticism about Tech Barriers: Kids are “remarkably clever at getting around any fences…” via VPNs, proxy sites, etc. [38:08]
• Expert perspective (Thorin Klosowski, EFF):
  • Parental tools are helpful, but there’s “no silver bullet...it's a conversation that parents have to have with their kids.” [40:59]
• Debate Over Age for First Smartphone: Some research suggests 13-year-olds are emotionally ready; hosts voice heavy skepticism.
  • Michael: “You're not emotionally ready for a smartphone when you’re 50 for the way it alters your life.” [41:13]
  • Joe Getty: “Whether it's proxy websites or VPNs or whatever, the kids can mask who they are…” [40:16]
• Dark Humor:
  • Michael: “I’m to the point now where if we could sign an agreement that all you do is look at porn and nothing else, I’m in. Go ahead. It’s gonna be bad for your life and you’ll never be able to get an erection. But that’s better than a lot of the other stuff…” [43:29]
  • Joe Getty: “Wow, that’s a hell of a deal.” [43:44]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Morality & Religion:
  “It’s yet to be proven on planet Earth that you can have a moral society without those same things [religion/church].” — Jack Armstrong [03:46]
• On Social Shifts:
  “If you demand that I group transgender activism at middle schools with gay and lesbian, and you tell me I’ve got to accept the whole thing or reject the whole thing…that’s a big ask.” — Joe Getty [15:00]
• On Chimpanzees:
  “A chimp group divided against itself cannot stand.” — Joe Getty [19:22]
• On Parenting Tech:
  “You only think about this every day because they walk around with the worst neighborhood on planet Earth in their hand...” — Joe Getty [37:49]
• Economic Analysis:
  “When a larger share of income is committed to fixed costs, even similar disposable income feels more constrained.” — Joe Getty (summarizing Roland Fryer) [32:03]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Gallup Morality Poll/US Social Attitudes: 03:06 – 15:23
• Chimpanzee Civil War: 15:26 – 19:51
• Cost-of-Living/Family Economics (Roland Fryer): 25:29 – 34:41
• Parental Controls & Youth Tech Use: 37:32 – 43:48

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Summary

This replay episode exemplifies Armstrong & Getty’s style—diving humorously and sincerely into U.S. social anxieties about morality, technology, and money. From Gallup’s sobering poll numbers to Roland Fryer's nuanced explanations of why Americans feel squeezed despite higher incomes, to deep parental worries about kids and smartphones, the hosts maintain a conversational, irreverent approach. Listeners get a blend of pop culture, hard stats, historical context, philosophical debate, and practical parenting worries—making it worth catching, even if you missed it live.

Transcript

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[Jack Armstrong]

Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

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[Michael]

And now here's Armstrong and Getty. We're Armstrong and Getty. Not actually here, but yet still providing you information.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, It's a bunch of segments from the last several weeks. The wackiest, the most amusing, insightful, that sort of thing.

[Michael]

Yeah, this is very, very exciting. You haven't heard this stuff. Oh, could be. It could be funny, could be touching. You might cry, you might laugh.

[Joe Getty]

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[Michael]

The Gallup morality poll is out. We could spend this hour or the rest of the show or the rest of the week or probably even the rest of the year discussing this if we wanted to.

[Joe Getty]

Well, let's get started.

[Michael]

So deep and interesting on so many different things, starting with. And I think this headline came out earlier this week before the details came out, a record 50% now half of the country believes our morals as a country are poor. We do not think we have very good morals as a country. That alone. You had something in mailbag, one of your quotes or something like that. And I almost interjected, you know, a lot of the atheist, libertarian, however you want to identify them, crowd, you know, really hates the idea of religion and church being involved in any way. But it's yet to be proven on planet Earth that you can have a moral society without those same things. I know a lot of my atheist friends believe you can, but that's not been proven that you can.

[Joe Getty]

Can I agree and simultaneously disagree with you?

[Michael]

Of course.

[Joe Getty]

The closest I've seen is your, your, your Northern European places like your, your Denmarks or your Sweden, because they had one culture. Everybody knew each other. They're all of the same race. They all had the same assumptions about life and morality and they could police each other. It was a cohesive social unit that worked pretty well. But that's like the only time it can conceivably work. Well, I believe everybody has the same presets.

[Michael]

I think Tom Holland, the historian in his book Dominion would argue they're still swimming in the sea of Christianity, even all these years later.

[Joe Getty]

Absolutely true. Yeah.

[Michael]

Anywho, I'll just hit you with the. The most morally acceptable and the most morally wrong according to this. I disagree with one of them a lot and I'm not going to talk about it because it would make way too many enemies. Most morally wrong.

[Joe Getty]

Now I'm running a ring of middle school drug dealers financed by the dog fights I stage. So I am curious to know what's considered immoral and immoral.

[Michael]

Well, I'm trying to figure out what order to do this all in because it's also damned interesting. The biggest change that has happened of all of them, the biggest change is polygamy has Tripled in approval since 2003, from 7% to 23%. It's still. Still. I don't know if I have a moral opinion on polygamy. That's what you want to do. Whatever. I don't have a moral opinion on that. It just seems so unworkable as a lifestyle.

[Joe Getty]

But I guarantee at least a significant chunk of that change is Muslim folks and folks who don't feel like they have any right to judge Muslim folks.

[Michael]

Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. You're probably right. But part of it. I'll just hit you with a couple of the headlines from the poll. US Support for LGBTQ plus issues remains down from its peak, particularly the trans stuff. In fact, only the trans stuff has gone down. Gay marriage, still very popular.

[Joe Getty]

Lesbian couples, all this different sort of

[Michael]

stuff they ask about, but. But the trans stuff is down a lot. So we can get to that later if you want.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I've dug deep into that and there actually is an overall decline on gay stuff.

[Michael]

Most Americans favor legal euthanasia. Just over 7 in 10Americans believe doctors should be allowed to, by law, to then the patient's life by some painless means if the patient and his or her family request it. I used to be a strong yes on that, having watched it unfold in a couple of different countries.

[Joe Getty]

I am now a no, including Canada, which is just horrific.

[Michael]

It gets out of hand really quick. And we could get into that topic if you want, because it's really interesting and complicated. Adultery and cloning still seen as the most immoral behaviors.

[Joe Getty]

Is that one set of those are two different things. Oh, I see.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay.

[Joe Getty]

Adulterous cloning.

[Michael]

Cloning someone that you want to have sex with outside your marriage.

[Joe Getty]

Lover died, but I got some of her DNA, so I'm gonna clone her so I can keep cheating on my wife.

[Michael]

Most morally wrong. Counting up from fifth worst to worst. Pornography at 64%. That's. That one's kind of interesting to me because Chris Rock, who. His marriage broke up and he mentioned he was a porn addict or something like that. Anyway, during one of his standup specials after that, he gets there and he says, I want to talk about pornography or something like that. And everybody booze. And he says, oh, yeah, five billion dollar a year business and I'm the only guy. And I thought that's a pretty good point. I mean, it's a huge business, but we're also really down on it or don't think other people should do it or I don't know what's going on. There any who pornography 4% of people think is morally wrong. Suicide 70% not very popular. Polygamy 77% although gaining in popularity. Human qualify human.

[Joe Getty]

Michael, was that a subtle shot at our Mormon friends?

[Michael]

Oh my God. Wow. Fair on so many levels.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. That was a low moment for the show.

[Michael]

People think human cloning is morally wrong. I'm glad. 86% of us and the least acceptable thing on this entire list of 20 behaviors. Extramarital Affairs. Only 7% say morally acceptable.

[Joe Getty]

Huh. Well obviously they left horrific crimes off of this list. These included things that people generally do outside of horrific crimes.

[Michael]

Yeah, yeah. That yeah. That regular people that you're friends with or who would vote for or whatever do I think would be a good way to put the list. I think that's interesting that that is the least morally acceptable thing on the list given the fact that we seem to have decided for our politics that we. That that's none of our business. I guess. I don't know if that's where we are. We didn't used to be there. Most morally acceptable. Number one. Birth control at 83% I disagree with the divorce is the second most morally acceptable. 74% but I'm not going to say another word about it because I'll make a lot of enemies. But unmarried sex 65% so that's interesting that it's still that many people. What's the actual other number on that? The approve there. I'll tell you this. We often make fun of people who have no opinion very low no opinions on any of these. It's almost all. You either find it morally acceptable or morally wrong.

[Joe Getty]

So 64% of people find non marital or premarital sex acceptable.

[Michael]

Sex between unmarried man and woman 65% find it. Find it acceptable. 31% unacceptable. Still hanging on to you shouldn't get have sex until you get married. And with the declining marriage rates and all that sort of stuff that's. That's pretty surprising to me.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I would agree.

[Michael]

I'm sure if you separated this out by age. I'm not sure actually. I don't know because young people don't have sex anymore. So maybe I'm wrong about that.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Our generation, the. The adults of the world were doing everything they could to keep us separated.

[Michael]

Only 19 of people think divorce is morally wrong. That's a tough. Yes. No question. Because you have such varied situations.

[Joe Getty]

Sure. Right.

[Michael]

If you're. I'll just say this is a caveat. If your husband's beating you. Yes. You should be able to get a divorce, that's perfectly morally acceptable. If your excuse is, I fell out of love and I'm just not happy right now, then, no, I don't find that morally acceptable. Hate me if you want, Hugh.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, they already do. Huge range of possible situations there. Very difficult, of course.

[Michael]

Any opinion on birth control being the most morally acceptable of them all?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, even among Catholics, there are a lot of people who say, yeah, come on now.

[Michael]

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[Michael]

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[Michael]

So let's get to the whole transgender thing, which has had quite a bit of movement in the last few years. Moral acceptability of changing one's gender hits a new record low. I find that an interesting question. A moral whether you find it morally acceptable to do something that's impossible. That's why I get hung up on the question.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right.

[Michael]

It's.

[Joe Getty]

You know, I understand the nature of this poll and why they ask the same question about all these matters, but, you know, your example of divorce is a good one. And I read a lot about the gay thing and the trans thing and all in this poll, and I came away thinking, what you're hinting at that it's the wrong question. My question would be, to what extent do you think transgenderism is a healthy expression of psychological reality or an expression of a troubled soul desperate for an answer? Yeah, that's choosing the wrong one.

[Michael]

Yeah. That's funny. If I think about somebody who's decided to do this, morality doesn't really factor into my mind. It hasn't.

[Joe Getty]

Not per se.

[Michael]

More like, to what extent do you think you actually now are a different gender?

[Joe Getty]

So if you asked me about promoting it to children, you know, my answer on the morality of that.

[Michael]

That. That. That is a different question.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, jails full of you people.

[Michael]

It was only upside down by five points in 2021. Minus five in terms of acceptable or morally wrong. It was still mostly morally wrong, but only minus five. It is now minus 19. That's a pretty big move in five years.

[Joe Getty]

All right, let me hit some of those real quick, and then let's come back with more of the questions, because you're right. This is absolutely fascinating. There's been a significant slide in LGBTQ issues in terms of their morality, and the reason why is obvious to anybody who observes this sort of thing. LGB was fine. It's the TQ plus stuff that are making people say, look, I let the camel's nose come under the tent because, you know, these are Nice people, and I got no right to blah, blah, blah. But now you're trying to follow that up with all sorts of stuff, all sorts of crazy stuff. And you're teaching it to children.

[Michael]

No.

[Joe Getty]

Hard, no. So anyway, majority of Americans still support same illegal same sex marriage. It's 65%. That figures dropped 6 percentage points from the peak in 2022 and 2023. Meanwhile, more moral acceptance of gay and lesbian relationships has dipped to 62. Gender transition. You mentioned those numbers. 38% of Americans believe changing one's gender is morally acceptable. Again, an odd way to look at it. Down 8 points since 2021. While a 57% majority view it as morally wrong. The cultural shift is largely driven by Republicans, but also to a lesser extent, but significantly, independents. Blah, blah, blah. Anyway, it's. Well, it's what I said. If you're going to group all of it together. If you demand, and I have plenty of, you know, gay and lesbian friends, acquaintances and listeners who say this themselves all the time. If you demand that I group transgender activism at middle schools with gay and lesbian. And you tell me I've got to accept the whole thing or reject the whole thing.

[Michael]

That's a big ass. Yeah, exactly.

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[Michael]

Oh, my.

[Joe Getty]

That's out a line.

[Michael]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Getty]

So this is. This is so crazy interesting. If you're into nature like I am, there's a report in Science, the magazine website, last week, the largest known group of wild chimpanzees in Uganda's Kibali national park is locked in a bloody civil war. And the study's authors say this might be the first quote, rare vision of a wild chimpanzee group and subsequent lethal aggression against former members of. In 500 years. I don't know how they know that exactly, but we'll take their word for it for now. Wow.

[Michael]

The first.

[Joe Getty]

At least 24 chimps have been killed out of a total of about 200 involved. So that is an incredibly high death toll.

[Michael]

The first monkey civil war in half a millennium. Yeah, that's quite a thing.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. So the good folks at the Free Press talk to what is. What is Colin. Right again. He's in evolutionary biologist. Yeah. Okay. Good guy to talk to. He wasn't involved in the study, but he's read it and they ask him what's going on with the Chimps, Why are they waging war on each other? And of course, he says, we don't know for sure. We have some intriguing ideas. One of the reasons it captures a lot of people's attention is they share a lot of similarities with human. But we don't think of them as being cultural individuals like humans. They don't have racial, religious or ideological differences like humans. I mean, what's a chimp's ideology anyway? Those factors are what we typically ascribe to human conflict. And so we'd expect to see relative peace and prosperity among individuals.

[Michael]

He's the expert, but my first thought was territory. They have that in common with humans.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And here's where it gets interesting. You're not wrong, he says, when we see a chimpanzee population that's not just the same species and looks similar. These groups used to be one group. They were like brothers and sisters up until just a few years ago. They were interbreeding with one another, they're grooming each other, picking fleas and ticks off one another.

[Michael]

I see you got a tick on your head. You want me to get that for you?

[Joe Getty]

Let me take care of that. Thanks, bro. Thanks, brah. And just over the course of a decade, but kind of all of a sudden, around 2015 or 2016, there was an abrupt segregation of the groups. Their social networks became increasingly isolated. And so they kind of drifted apart, friend group wise, and started raiding each other's chimp groups, which is a terrible and bloody thing.

[Michael]

God, can you imagine what that looks like in the noise? Oh, my God.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I've seen it. It's horrific. The physical power, the sharp teeth, the utter lack of mercy. You think humans are brutal? Watch chimps fight to the death. Anyway, they ask, is this level of feuding and warfare common in chimps? No. It is certainly anomalous. Typically, when you see chimpanzee raids, they come from totally unrelated groups of chimps. This is totally the opposite. We have a unique situation where the chimpanzee groups are not foreign to each other. According to the study, some of the chimpanzees had social ties and reproductive ties with members of the attacking groups. Researchers noticed subtle shifts in which champion chimpanzees groomed the others and who mated with whom. Over time, the behavioral isolation became more and more concrete. They moved. Eventually, alphas developed inside each of group each of the groups. They acted as social. Gru. I'm sorry, glue. I'm rating ahead. Blah, blah, blah.

[Michael]

Once again, the grooming. Turn around and bend over I'll get those hard to reach places for you.

[Joe Getty]

They're well groomed, them chimps. Let's see. What typically drives chimpanzee groups to raid others? They ask. Well, some chimpanzee raid others to gain more access to females. Other times they're competing for certain resources. Oh, my. This is a unique example of a raid or set of raids that do not involve these two factors, but deterioration of social cohesion. As far as they can tell, the only thing they're fighting over is. We used to be friends and now we're not anymore. Wow. You've become a foreign group.

[Michael]

Is that a mirror? Everyone, I'm Jack Armstrong.

[Joe Getty]

Hey. As the great Abraham Lincoln said, a chimp group divided against itself cannot stand.

[Michael]

Which side am I rooting for? I need to know which side I'm on.

[Joe Getty]

It's not clear to me who's who,

[Michael]

blue or the gray or however they're dividing themselves.

[Joe Getty]

It's a war of northern chimp aggression.

[Michael]

Does one side peel the banana from the handle side down and then the other side the other way?

[Joe Getty]

And this one jacket does not appear to be about ideology. Crazy chimp civil war.

[Michael]

That is pretty interesting.

[Joe Getty]

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[Michael]

Instagram launched a new Snapchat like feature

[Joe Getty]

called instance that allows users to send disappearing photos.

[Michael]

Now please just say nudes. That's a good point. What else are you saying? That sending ever that needs to disappear. Here's my kid on his new bike. Gotta have it disappear within 30 seconds.

[Joe Getty]

I don't want anybody seeing it.

[Michael]

I don't want it hanging around out there on the Internet.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's great.

[Michael]

We have, I think breaking news. I can't find it though. Where is that coming from? Okay, hold on.

[Joe Getty]

This is worth getting to tease something America's increasingly saying. AI b o o. The anti AI backlash has begun in earnest. Now back to Jack searching for breaking news.

[Michael]

Iran has submitted their new proposal. So Trump threatened obliteration again. Then late yesterday put out a long truth social post that was both a threat and a pause. If you're not following through on this, we remain ready to obliterate you. All right, don't get all wise guy on me, but I've been told by three different Arab countries to hold off because we're close to a deal. Iran has submitted their new proposal to the United States to end the war. The terms include five demands, US Troops leaving areas close to Iran.

[Joe Getty]

That's probably okay.

[Michael]

Maybe the US Paying war reparations and end of. I don't need to read the rest of the. Lifting sanctions on Iran, releasing Iran's frozen assets and ending the U.S. blockade. Okay, well, I would like to quote

[Joe Getty]

one of the great thinkers of our time. I say again, putting in there paying

[Michael]

war reparations is just like whizzing on you or something. Yeah, no, it's like flipping you off. Hey, here's my new proposal.

[Joe Getty]

Or back in the day you might have been turning your back and dropping your pants.

[Michael]

Delightful tradition known as mooning. Yes, that is exactly what that is. It's verbal mooning. Here's my new proposal. How do you like this?

[Joe Getty]

You want to sign on to this?

[Michael]

Sign on the dotted line right there.

[Joe Getty]

Always. Folks, he's been over and wagging it to illustrate in the studio. Shocking.

[Michael]

Don't ever do that again.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, Michael, I join you in that request. All right, so coming up, the. Excuse me. The backlash against AI. But first, absolutely love Roland Fryer.

[Michael]

Do you know Roland?

[Joe Getty]

He's a youngish, gosh, 30 something, maybe 40 year old black man. Not that that matters, but you might recognize him. He's an economist. He's just a shaker upper of conventional wisdom. And he's a professor at Harvard, founder of Equal Opportunity Ventures, senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute. He's a realist and a conservative. Anyway, so he's doing this analysis of why everything feels more expensive in the Wall Street Journal. And it's of course, Jack, of course.

[Michael]

Because it's more expensive. Did I ruin it?

[Joe Getty]

Thanks. Thanks for nothing. Of course it is adjusted for inflation because anything that's not is so stupid you ought to hold whoever wrote it in whatever analysis in low esteem. So he points out. Well, he starts with the inevitable specific, which we'll skip over. But recent CBS News YouGov poll found that 83% of Americans say it's harder to buy a home than it was for previous generations. And 77% say it's harder to raise family financially. They are not wrong, but the explanation is more complicated than either side's populists admit. So let's start with family income since 1975. And again, all adjusted for inflation.

[Michael]

I'm skeptical of this. So I look forward to hearing these numbers because I'm thinking on my. Like mom and dad were raising us and they bought their first house at like 18% interest and blah, blah, blah.

[Joe Getty]

So skip to the end. We're at the beginning. Since 1975, median family income has risen by more than half, from about 68,000 to 106,000 in inflation adjusted terms.

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Wow.

[Joe Getty]

A gain of roughly $38,000 a year.

[Michael]

You never hear that now that's family income, sure.

[Joe Getty]

But much of the difference comes from one of the most important social shifts of the family past half century. Labor force participation among married mothers rose from about 45% in the mid-70s. I'm actually slightly surprised it was that high. I am too, from 45% to 72% last year. But for families with young children, much of that $38,000 gain is spoken for before it ever hits the bank account. To wit, a year's worth of mortgage payments, adjusted for inflation, has risen from about $16,000 in 19 to $25,000 last year or so, an increase of $9,000. So there goes nine of that $38,000. Workers now contribute about $7,000 a year in premiums for family health insurance, roughly double the real cost back in 1999. Don't go back to 75.

[Michael]

Double from. Feels like it's double from not that long ago.

[Joe Getty]

Amen to that, brother. Full day. Full day. Daycare for a single child typically runs 6,500 to 15,5 depending on age and location. A cost most families in the 1970s didn't occur at all. Incur at all added up in these three expenses absorbed most of the $38,000 gain, leaving many families, especially those with young children or in high cost cities, with roughly the same disposable income their parents had despite earning more. Would you like now, Jack, because this is your wheelhouse to get into the much larger houses, more cars, more lavish lifestyle discussion.

[Michael]

I was thinking about that when you. The house. Well, okay, maybe your mortgage payment is higher, but are you living in twice the size house as the previous generations? We lived in a very small house.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, as did we. Yeah, My kids grew up in a very small house until we started to make a little money and then it got substantially larger. So it's just a priority these days in a way. It wasn't back in the day when most of the housing was built post WW2 for servicemen and their families. And, and, and it was all about the. It wasn't about your palatial home, and I'm not judging I have a large home, but it was about your backyard barbecue with all your neighbors and being at the park in the ball field and in lawn chairs on your front lawn, you know, just or, or at the bowling alley or at the civic organization or whatever. It reminds me of articles I've read about urban dwellers who have the little studio apartment like in New York and they say, well, I don't really spend much time here. I shower here, I sleep here, maybe I have a meal here.

[Michael]

When I was childless, yeah, where I lived didn't make any difference. I was only going there to shower and change clothes. Well, I wish this would just be recognized more. We can still have conversations about things being more expensive or whatever. Like what it costs to eat out has quadrupled since the 70s. Here's the big difference. We ate out twice a year year when I was a kid. Like then.

[Joe Getty]

That's not much of an exaggeration.

[Michael]

So what it cost to eat out was really kind of irrelevant given the fact that we never did.

[Joe Getty]

So back to Roland Fryer analyzing cost of living. He says the culprit, the culprit is structural, not political. Economists call it Baumol's cost disease. B A U mo L. I didn't run into that.

[Michael]

Never heard this before.

[Joe Getty]

Maybe old Baumo hadn't spit out his theory yet when I was in school. Productivity gains tend to concentrate in goods, cars, clothing, televisions, food as technology steadily drives prices down. But many services, like teaching a kindergarten class, change little over time. As incomes rise, wages must rise across the board. Otherwise employees leave for higher paying sectors. Labor intensive services grow more expensive not because something went wrong, but because everything else becomes more productive. Da da da. Before indicting the economy, consider what 50 years of growth actually delivered. The car in your driveway is far less likely to kill you than its 1975 counterpart. And he goes into the enormous fallen traffic fatalities in the last 50 years. The average American reaching 65 today can expect to live 3.6 more years than in 1975. The air is 80% cleaner. The access to search engines, email and digital maps have a huge value in time and ease and blah blah blah.

[Michael]

You don't have to listen. You don't have to listen to disco.

[Joe Getty]

It's a good point too. 1975 middle class family may have had more cash left at the end of the month, but they also faced higher risks of violent crime, breathed dirtier air and waited for everything evening news to learn what was happening in the world. That was better. Rolling. Yes, that was better.

[Michael]

And that depends on where you live. I didn't grow up anywhere where we had any violent crime ever.

[Joe Getty]

So yeah, yeah. So one more bit of analysis. So why? Given small similar discretionary Income in a much better world. Does the middle class feel squeezed? The answer lies in what the numbers miss slack. When a larger share of income is committed to fixed costs, even similar disposable income feels more constrained. For many families that means the reserve is gone. In 1975, a second income often sat in reserve. A non working parent who could enter the labor force if needed. Today most parents already work. That means one job loss, one medical crisis, one divorce and the entire structure comes under pressure because you don't have that pinch hitter sitting in the getting loose in the bullpen. Of course your pinch hitters don't get loose in the bullpen, your pitchers do. Tortured metaphor. It takes a terrible, terrible beating. Let's see. And then he gets into geography and expensive cities and that sort of thing.

[Michael]

I wonder, I wonder how many of your major economic rules, laws, axioms get completely blown up by AI no longer work because of AI when it takes

[Joe Getty]

over, I have no idea.

[Michael]

I'll put a lot of them.

[Joe Getty]

You're blowing my mind. Oh, you know, it's funny. Then he goes into a mental exercise and we should take a break about the antidote. Psychology psychologists prescribe is mental subtraction. Deliberately imagine life without what you take for granted. Try it with 1975. No airbags, much higher risk of being robbed. Three television networks we've added blah blah blah. You know it's funny that I saw air bags and thought air conditioning. I grew up in Chicagoland where the summers were absolutely sweltering and my parents had no air conditioning until several years after I moved out of the house as my soft, soft little brother enjoyed the slightly higher family affluence.

[Michael]

Or if you had air conditioning, Jimmy Carter wouldn't let your run it.

[Joe Getty]

So yeah, yeah, this sweater bastard. Well, so how much lower were my my parents energy bills adjusted for inflation

[Michael]

than mine right now, right? No kidding.

[Joe Getty]

Oh God, we were miserable. I was miserable. Just I do remember many hot hot

[Michael]

nights and my kids have never had a hot night. I don't think.

[Joe Getty]

Oh yeah, we would run this big fan in our bedroom. My brother and I shared a bedroom trying to pull saw air through the house.

[Michael]

Right?

[Joe Getty]

Bl out the hot humid air in the house and sucking in some nice fresh hot humid air.

[Michael]

And you're late to replace laying on top of the sheets and just your

[Joe Getty]

underwear just dripping sweat. Good times.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Show Apple is rolling out a major software update with new parental controls.

[Joe Getty]

We're giving parents powerful, easy to use tools to help manage what kids can see, who they can talk to to and when they have access.

[Michael]

Oh boy. Man, if you got kids and they got smartphones, especially if they're teenagers. You only think about this every day because they walk around with the worst neighborhood on planet earth in their hand in a way that was never possible

[Joe Getty]

before and are remarkably clever at getting around any fences that are put on up.

[Michael]

When I was in high school, living in Glidus, living in small town western Kansas, I mean there were there, there were people around that did bad things and I'm sure there were people down at Brown that did like pretty, pretty bad things. But my dad had a pretty good idea of who I was going to be in communication with on a daily basis. Yeah. And it would have been hard for me to run into a lot of those people people as a 15 year old whereas now my 16 year old could, could be talking to a guy who will sell him a machine gun and heroin today easily or groom them

[Joe Getty]

for God knows what. Yeah, yeah, yeah well the, the scumbags and perverts have gotten systematic with it. They know how to troll, how to you know, sort through many, many young people online and find would be victims in a way that it was impossible in, in like personal interchange for all of human history.

[Michael]

Let's go on with this report from CBS News about Apple's new software at

[Jack Armstrong]

its Worldwide Developers Conference. Apple said it's expanding child accounts required for kids under 13, limiting adult websites and setting age specific restrictions in the App Store. Apple says parents will be able to decide who kids can talk to in iMessage and FaceTime, limit how much time can be spent in specific apps and, and extend or pause device use entirely.

[Michael]

That's the one that I do because that's the one where I'm pretty sure I know they shut off completely at a certain time and I'm pretty positive at that point I got control of you. But any of the other hours where you're on your phone, I don't know if any of that other stuff is work. I'm, I'm practically to the point of why do I even try? Based on things I've learned in the like last six months months from my son and other parents of there's just so many ways around all these things and, and whichever one you find out about, there's probably a hundred more.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Whether it's proxy websites or VPNs or whatever, they can mask who they are, the kids.

[Michael]

Yeah. Here's a little more from that report.

[Jack Armstrong]

This comes as new research out today suggests that by age 13, teens may be more emotionally ready to receive their first smartphone without it automatically harming their mental health.

[Joe Getty]

I think it's a step in the right direction.

[Jack Armstrong]

Thorn Klosowski is a privacy expert at the non profit Electronic Frontier Foundation. Kids are known to get around parental controls. Are these foolproof?

[Joe Getty]

No, they never are. And that's kind of why the conversation is really an important part here.

[Commercial Announcer]

Parents need to know that these tools exist.

[Joe Getty]

They need to know how to use

[Commercial Announcer]

them and they need to know the kind of barriers that exist around them.

[Joe Getty]

There's not like a really like silver

[Commercial Announcer]

bullet here that's going to like magically

[Joe Getty]

fix this problem for everybody.

[Commercial Announcer]

I think it's going to have to be a kind of discussion that parents have with their kids, with the device

[Joe Getty]

makers ensuring that this like fosters a

[Commercial Announcer]

place where kids can still be kids.

[Michael]

At 13, you're emotionally ready for a smartphone. You're not emotionally ready for a smartphone when you're 50 for the way it alters your life. Why do they do these studies? Ask anybody who uses a phone. Right. Studies have found they're a distraction in the classroom. Studies have found on why are anybody. Why is anybody spending any money doing these studies?

[Joe Getty]

We all know this, Michael. More importantly, that expert's name was Thorin. If my name was Thorin, do you think I could get away with going as Thor, asking people to call me Thor? Yeah, that'd be good because that's what I would do. That's my plan. Do you want to carry a hammer?

[Michael]

Right, I was gonna say, do you want every single person to constantly say where's your hammer? And deal with that the rest of your life? I don't.

[Joe Getty]

Well, you're right. The downside I hadn't thought about side

[Michael]

of being named Thor. Glad I brought it up. Okay, one more clip from this report.

[Jack Armstrong]

The new parental controls will roll out in September. This as Apple also unveils Siri AI. A long awaited update to that conversational back and forth with the personal assistant that they have there. And after all of these announcements, just Hours later, rival OpenAI declaring it plans to take take that company public.

[Michael]

And of course you could go on chat GPT and say, how do I get around the new Apple parental controls as a 13 year old and it will tell you and then you'll do it. I mean, I'm, I, I don't want to. I'm glad Apple's trying. I'm, I'm all for trying, sure. But I do feel like I just have to accept and hope by constantly telling my kids, you know, don't buy drugs from strangers and don't do this, don't do that, that it sinks in because I don't have any belief I can stop them from being in contact with this stuff.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. I didn't have to deal with this as a parent of kids. So it's, it's tough for me to even talk about it. But to your point, you, you work constantly to install and instill the principles that will help them avoid the worst harms. Because this specific like, you know, ability to look at porn or ugly porn or really too much porn at all is bad. But it's, it's just so difficult to limit that.

[Michael]

I'm to the point now where if we could sign an agreement that all you do is look at porn and nothing else, I'm in. Go ahead. It's gonna be bad for your life and you'll never be able to get an erection. But that's better than a lot of the other stuff that's out there that you could get into.

[Joe Getty]

Wow, that's a hell of a deal.

[Michael]

It is a hell of a deal.

[Joe Getty]

Apple from the tree of knowledge, folks, I stand by my, my theory, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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[Commercial Announcer]

Oh, as an avid camper, I know all about this. We'll pack up the RV and know this is either going to be the trip of a lifetime or a complete disaster.

[Jack Armstrong]

Which is why we load up the iPads with lingokids before we even pull out of the driveway.

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