The A&G Replay Monday Hour One

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand — The A&G Replay Monday Hour One

Podcast: Armstrong & Getty On Demand
Host: iHeartPodcasts
Episode Date: July 6, 2026

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Episode Overview

This hour features a replay of standout, thought-provoking, and humorous moments from recent Armstrong & Getty shows, along with some less-heard "One More Thing" clips. Although Armstrong and Getty aren’t live—humorously blaming “firework phone accidents” for their absence—the hour explores themes ranging from modern relationships, defeatism, social and political trends, AI dangers, and the science of why babies laugh.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Modern Relationships & Social Trends

[04:52–08:39] “I’d Love To Have a Wife” Viral Post

• Jack brings up a recent viral Facebook post and New York Times article where a woman (not a lesbian) expressed a wish to have a wife purely for sharing chores, finances, and companionship, without romance or sex.

• The post resonated with many online, prompting a discussion about the nature of contemporary relationships and changing gender roles.

  Jack Armstrong [05:11]:
  “I'd love to have a wife that could do the chores I hate. I'll do the ones she hates. We'll split the bills... sexless, of course... Anybody interested?”

• Joe jokes about how men are often maligned as useless, and they riff on the “defeatism” in people’s attitudes toward relationships and work:

  Joe Getty [07:13]:
  “My man sucks, all men suck. I'm not going to try anymore.”

• Both discuss how a sense of defeatism or bitterness seems to lead to broad generalizations and withdrawal from social engagement, especially in the dating world.

2. Gender Gaps, Loneliness, and Defeatism

[06:20–08:39] Changing Attitudes and Isolation

• Jack and Joe discuss how men and women increasingly struggle to connect: women complain men are disengaged (preferring porn and video games), and men say women are radical or unavailable.

• They touch on studies showing an increasing partisan and gender divide in the U.S., speculating on the long-term consequences:

  Jack Armstrong [06:56]:
  “Fail to reproduce and die away, I guess.”

3. Voyeurism & Hidden Digital Culture in China

[08:56–12:44] Secret Filming Scandal

• Jack introduces a disturbing trend in China: “chamai” (secret filming betrayal), involving hidden cameras recording women and girls in private spaces and sharing the footage on encrypted apps.

  Jack Armstrong [09:41]:
  “People are sharing and trading photos and videos of their own girlfriends, wives, relatives and acquaintances with secret cameras in bathrooms and bedrooms.”

• They express shock, given China's strict online surveillance, that this is allowed to thrive.

• Joe theorizes this is partially because of restrictions on legal, consensual porn, leading to a black market for voyeuristic content:

  Joe Getty [13:17]:
  “But for some reason, they're allowing this. So you don't allow porn on your internet, but… you got neighbors trading pictures of daughters and wives.”

• Both agree that societies need a strong moral code to restrain human impulses toward “the dark side.”

4. Communism, Elitism, and the Appeal of Authoritarian States

[10:35–12:07] Personal Anecdote from Mongolia

• Jack recounts a conversation with someone from Mongolia, who reminisced fondly about growing up under Communist rule—but only because their family was among the elite.
• Discussion turns to how authoritarian systems often serve a small subset of people well, while most suffer.

5. The Human Need for Morality and Purpose

[14:59–20:49] Religion, Wokeness, and Meaning

• The hosts discuss an essay positing that when people abandon religion, they often fill the “spiritual jar” with politics—leading to relentless tribal conflict, particularly on the left.

  Jack Armstrong [17:02]: (quoting Tom Clingenstein)
  “The woke ideologues will never be able to let go of their man-made Satan. It would mean returning to the abyss of meaninglessness that they struggled so hard to overcome... The Left has given up its dream of the peaceful, rational society in favor of a constant mobilization against deplorable racists. Endless war turned out to be preferable to the psychic horror of a life without purpose.”

• Joe and Jack reflect on the increasingly religious nature of politics and how political identity now provides meaning once supplied by faith, family, or other traditional structures.

  Joe Getty [19:58]:
  “These people's religion is politics... It's impossible for them to come to an issue and give it a fair hearing because they already know where they're supposed to stand.”

6. Band Teachers, Levity, and The Science of Babies Laughing

[24:03–35:36] Humor, Music Teachers, and Baby Laughter

• Jack recounts a high school band teacher yelling, “Cut the levity!”—and not knowing what levity meant.

• Discussion detours into why band teachers often seem angry: frustration from teaching something they love to often-reluctant students.

  Joe Getty [25:16]:
  “It's the best option for making a living at the only thing you really care about... and being surrounded by people that don't care about what you've dedicated your life to would make you angry.”

• The subject pivots to the evolutionary and cognitive science of babies laughing, summarized from a New York Times essay. Babies’ laughter shows early signs of humor, intentionality, and social bonding.

  Jack Armstrong [29:19]:
  “It's driven by the brain's limbic system… By six months, the lab found infants can intentionally produce a laugh.”

• Laughter is as important a developmental milestone as walking or talking, although it’s not traditionally tracked by parents or pediatricians.

• The hosts reflect on the joy of watching babies laugh and theorize that regular exposure to such joy could benefit society.

  Joe Getty [30:57]:
  “That ought to be part of therapy for people. Oh, I love that idea.”

7. Artificial Intelligence: Jobs, Dangers, and Bioweapons

[39:32–45:52] Sam Altman Interview and AI Regulation

• Jack plays a clip of Sam Altman (OpenAI CEO) reassuring graduates that AI will create new jobs and productivity, rather than causing catastrophic unemployment.

  Jack Armstrong [39:55]:
  “Everything is going to be fine for the foreseeable future, according to Sam Altman of ChatGPT. And why wouldn't you believe him?”

• Joe and Jack, tongue-in-cheek, express skepticism about such optimism and discuss historian Niall Ferguson’s argument that AI is the most dangerous arms race in history.

• The hosts highlight a joint letter from leading AI CEOs urging Congress to regulate synthetic DNA/RNA supplies to prevent AI-driven bioweapons.

  Joe Getty [43:21]: (reading from the letter)
  “There is a real possibility that the knowledge barriers which have historically prevented bad actors from obtaining biological weapons will meaningfully erode.”

• They debate whether regulating the supply chain for bioweapon components is enough, ultimately expressing doubt that safeguards can be airtight, especially globally.

  Joe Getty [44:16]:
  “It will restrict the number of novel biological weapons that will be unleashed. But it won't stop it. It can't.”

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Selected Memorable Quotes

• “My man sucks, all men suck. I'm not going to try anymore.”
  — Joe Getty [07:13]
• “People are sharing and trading photos and videos of their own girlfriends, wives, relatives and acquaintances with secret cameras in bathrooms and bedrooms.”
  — Jack Armstrong [09:41]
• “Endless war turned out to be preferable to the psychic horror of a life without purpose.”
  — Jack Armstrong, quoting Tom Clingenstein [17:28]
• “These people's religion is politics... It’s impossible for them to give it a fair hearing because they already know where they’re supposed to stand.”
  — Joe Getty [19:58]
• “That ought to be part of therapy for people. Oh, I love that idea.”
  — Joe Getty (on baby-laughing videos) [30:58]
• “There is a real possibility that the knowledge barriers which have historically prevented bad actors from obtaining biological weapons will meaningfully erode.”
  — Joe Getty [43:21, quoting AI CEO letter]

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Timestamps for Main Segments

• [04:52–08:39] Viral “I want a wife” post and discussion on relationships and defeatism
• [08:56–12:44] Secret voyeurism epidemic in China
• [14:59–20:49] The vacuum of religion, purpose, “spiritual jars,” and politics as replacement
• [24:03–27:03] Band teachers, levity, and music classes
• [27:04–35:36] Children’s laughter, humor as developmental milestone
• [39:32–45:52] Sam Altman on AI jobs; AI as arms race and potential for bioweapons

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Tone & Style Notes

• Typical Armstrong & Getty blend of dry humor, skepticism, curiosity, and occasional earnestness.
• Openly acknowledge their own biases and lack of expertise on certain topics, often pivoting from jokes to deeper musings.
• Willing to explore sensitive and uncomfortable subjects, but always with an undercurrent of self-awareness and levity.

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For New Listeners

This hour covers a wide swath of cultural, technological, and philosophical ground, always filtered through the sardonic—but reflective—lens of Armstrong & Getty. From viral online trends to the world’s most pressing technological threats, the hosts weave together personal stories, news articles, and their own evolving worldviews.
If you’re interested in modern friendship, societal polarization, China, AI, and even why babies laugh—this is a representative and engaging hour of the show.

Transcript

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Hey there, it's the Armstrong and Getty replay. We're not actually here because we both blew our phones off with fireworks over the weekend, so we had to take a day off to get. I think we're getting orangutan thumb sewed on.

[Joe Getty]

It's expensive, experimental, but occasionally successful. Oh boy. We've got the Armstrong and Getty replay ready to go. Some of the most interesting, absurd, eye catching things, ear catching things that have happened over the recent months. Plus some Armstrong and Getty one more thing clips you probably have never heard.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, good stuff. Let's get back to the Armstrong and Getty replay. This. This made the rounds over the weekend. It was somebody who put an ad on Facebook. It got enough popularity. The New York Times wrote about was basically some woman saying I'd love to have a wife. She's not a lesbian. This isn't sexual. She said, I'd love to have a wife that could do the chores I hate. I'll do the ones she hates. We'll split the bills. We'll each max out our 401ks and Roth IRAs. It'd have to be sexless. Of course. We probably wouldn't even need to get married. Of course that's what would make her sexless. Is anybody interested? To which a lot of the replies were, yeah, that sounds awesome. I'd like that too. With a lot of the other replies saying, isn't that kind of what a marriage would be if you just found a man I like you split the chores and try to be financially responsible and you know, the sexist part wouldn't be great.

[Joe Getty]

But she's not a lesbian.

[Jack Armstrong]

She's not lesbian. It's just, it's. I don't know, I guess the, the

[Joe Getty]

I don't think of men are stupid and useless.

Yes.

Only a wife would. Only a wife would help out with the chores.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, well, or, or, or be a good partner for life. Not just chores, but that. Yeah, definitely. And then like, lots of people are on board like that. Which kind of gets to that whole weird dating thing that's going on right now where there's just, you know, people aren't getting together. Women thinking in some cases are.

[Tony Ayo]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

There are. There's no men out there to hook up with because they're all sitting at home looking at porn and playing video games, which is true for a lot of men. And then you got the flip side of a man who don't want to date because they're a bunch of crazy radicals. And. Well, in the, in the studies that we've talked about several times, the, the gap between one gender being one party and the other gender being the other party, it's always been split pretty much evenly and now it's vastly different. So I don't know. I don't know what we're going to do about that. Fail to reproduce and die away, I guess would be.

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[Joe Getty]

defeatism is a warm blanket that people like, if my job sucks, all jobs suck and I'm just not going to try anymore because all jobs suck.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, here's the difference.

[Joe Getty]

My man sucks, all men suck. I'm not going to try anymore.

[Jack Armstrong]

But in this case it would be, I've got a job, though. That's pretty good. It's enough. I don't need more. So because, like, men are getting enough to get by with porn and video games.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah, I was talking more about that whole men are stupid and useless, I need a wife and women are

[Jack Armstrong]

getting by enough with Galentine's day and whatever else.

[Joe Getty]

I saw a post the other day with the kind of going along the line of what Joe's talking about, like the all men are useless and what not in the top comment that had the most likes was you feel this way because you can't get one.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, totally agree with that certain amount of truth to that.

[Joe Getty]

You're bitter and that's the only reason you're. If some guy came into that woman's life and swept her off her feet tomorrow, she'd be happy. Yep, they're useless until that happens.

How many members of the Nick Fuentes He Man Woman Haters club, like, have had a meaningful relationship with a good woman and have decided, nope, I'm not in favor of that. No, it's. It's the defeatism I was talking about.

Yeah.

And look There are issues, there are problems, there are challenges. Overcome them or just die. Go ahead and die.

I just.

I hate defeatism or. It's the only thing that can hold you back.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, Mike. Michael.

[Joe Getty]

No, I was just shocked by that suggestion.

[Ders Armstrong]

That's all.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm trying to get out of the way. Here's how I'll transition to this other part or get into Pai chumai,

[Joe Getty]

which

[Jack Armstrong]

is popular in China right now. New York Times did a big piece on this over the weekend. China is failing to curb the secret filming betrayal of women and girls. Chamai, tupai, chamai. And I'm again, I'm pronouncing that wrong, I'm sure is a Chinese for secret filming betrayal. And it's become like the rage. All across China, a vast trade of secretly filmed footage of Chinese women and girls has flourished, powering the anonymity of. By the anonymity of telegram. That's like the, you know, you can share stuff around encrypted, nobody can find out who you are. And the convenience of Chinese online payment apps. People are sharing and trading photos and videos of the girl, their own girlfriends, wives, relatives and acquaintances with secret cameras and bathrooms and bedrooms.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, you know, it's daughters, too. These sickos.

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

And for whatever reason, Chinese culture, it's huge right now.

[Joe Getty]

God, you said two pied, whatever the hell. And I. I was thinking, like, is that a dessert?

[Jack Armstrong]

The lack of enforcement is striking for a country known for its expansive online surveillance and its ability to track users on platforms.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean, they can crack down on all kinds of different stuff, but for whatever reason, they can't or haven't on this. And it's just a huge thing.

[Joe Getty]

Wow, China's weird.

[Jack Armstrong]

China is weird.

[Joe Getty]

We've got a couple of listeners who spent, like, most of their lives living and working in China that are like, no, you should come. It's actually pretty cool in a lot of ways.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I wonder. I wonder about. That's funny. I was talking to somebody the other day from Mongolia, and she grew up, and so I didn't know anything about Mongolia. I've been to a Mongolian barbecue, which I did not bring up to her, but I didn't know an opportunity. I didn't know anything about Mongolia, so I did a tiny bit of research.

[Joe Getty]

Hey, how about that Genghis Khan? He was something, wasn't he? Crazy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Since I, you know. Anyway, so Mongolia was a. Basically a Soviet state and. And then got its Freedom. So I said to this person, did you grow up under communism? And she said, yeah, and actually for us it was pretty great. We liked it, I thought, because that's not what I was expecting, you know.

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[Jack Armstrong]

And we were one of the elite families. Oh, okay. So you are one of the elite families that, you know, get the, the, the, the stuff of communism while everybody else out there is suffering. And, you know, you're tied into that. The way communism works, it's doing really an oligarchy as opposed to capitalism. And I thought that's interesting. And I wonder that about like, when we hear that from people have, you know, worked in China and said it's fantastic. Yeah. I don't think you're getting the full I'm a communist and not allowed to decide what I do for a living or where I live treatment.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Yeah. These are American expats, I think, but I don't know what's going on with them. I, I would like to know more. Yeah, just, I don't take it at face value, like, oh, I was wrong. No, I think there's something going on here.

[Jack Armstrong]

But isn't it interesting? I didn't realize that at least the way I worked in Mongolia, it's probably this way. In a lot of communist countries there is a group, the top 1%, 5%, whatever it is, that think this is pretty cool. I'm kind of enjoying myself 100%. There was no crime, she said, because, you know, everybody is so locked down and afraid. Really great if you were a part of the elite. But in China, I guess they're all so lonely and weird. They're looking at videos of your co worker's daughter taking a shower or, or using the bathroom. I don't get that at all.

[Joe Getty]

All of that makes me sick to my stomach.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know. I don't get it. I don't know. I don't get. I, I've never been denied. Well, first of all, I'm not a provo. And then two, I've never been denied any sort of like, access to that sort of stuff. I don't know what desirous you would be of seeing a naked person in any situation if you didn't have access to that.

[Joe Getty]

Or do they not have access to

[Jack Armstrong]

porn China, from what I've understood in the past, because as part of this article, they crack down so hard on their Internet. They don't, they don't have, you know, unfettered porn like we have in the United States.

[Joe Getty]

But for some reason, Fetters turned me on.

[Jack Armstrong]

But for some reason, they're allowing this. So you don't allow porn on your Internet, but you guys porn though, right? You got neighbors trading pictures of daughters and wives.

[Joe Getty]

It's porn without consent.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're videoing your wife in the bathroom and sharing it with your friends. What the hell?

[Joe Getty]

Or selling it to people online.

[Jack Armstrong]

Selling it, obviously.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Creeps. Yeah.

I, I, we really, really, really need religion or like a specific moral code as, as human beings. It is too easy. According to every philosophy that's ever taken root. It's too easy to be drawn to the dark side and, and, and become something you should not be. It's just like every single minute of every day. Well, the, the natural state of the universe is entropy, right? Chaos, Ugliness. Well, not ugliness per se, but chaos.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. Everything is moving toward disorder unless you have a very strong force to hold it in order. And that's true of every. All matter. All matter, yes. Planets and human souls and, and civilizations. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

That's freaking profound right there, huh?

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[Jack Armstrong]

Sir, these, these former. This is in New York over the weekend. Are these Iranians who were in favor of the theocracy or.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, no, no, they're young Marxists. All that colonial stuff, all that imperial stuff, that's all about neo marxism.

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Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

That fits in with what I was about to talk about, which I, I find this really interesting. I love this sort of stuff. It's called, it's a piece written by Tom Clingenstein, the left and its devil. But it's, it's this idea that some people have that when a big chunk of western minds abandoned religion, it left them with a hole. Like a what? Like a, a world. It's a struggle. What, what is your worldview? What is your, how do you, how do you explain the way everything works if you don't have the, you know, devil versus God sort of kind of view of things? I think it'll become more obvious what I'm talking about here. As I read this from the piece, I thought this was really interesting. Now that they have filled their empty spiritual jars with a bitter new wine. Okay, so that's for people who have empty spiritual jars, but it leaves a hole. You got to fill it with something. Now that they have filled their empty spiritual jars with a bitter new wine. The woke ideologues will never be able to let go of their man made Satan. It would mean returning to the abyss of meaninglessness that they struggled so hard to overcome. In the world of good versus evil that the left has invented, there will always be fascists, racists and sexists, for instance, to demonize because permanent enemies have become a therapeutic crutch. This is why there can be no return to the old normal. A substantial portion of the country cannot live without perpetual war. The Left has given up its dream of the peaceful, rational society in favor of a constant mobilization against deplorable racists. It was a large price to pay. But endless war turned out to be preferable to the psychic horror of a life without purpose. So once you abandon the whole idea of you're living for God, or you know, it doesn't have to be God, but some, some higher purpose, having kids, maybe raising them, everything like just you needed to have the, the enemy out there to be, well, fighting against and superior to, and, and so it's the racists, fascists, whatever, you know, the list of things, imperialists, all that sort of stuff, and that you're in permanent war with these people and there's, there's no satisfaction really there because a lot of it is made up, but that's what drives them. And the idea that we cannot return to the. Oh, I didn't do a good job of setting this up. A friend of mine sent this to me out of the poll that we were discussing last week about how we're the only country in the world right now where a majority of the citizens think their fellow citizens are evil, immoral. With the left really leading the way in that thinking. It's the, it's the whole we think they're wrong, they think we're evil thing.

[Joe Getty]

Right, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And, and because you have to have, we apparently are built to have a good, evil, good and evil dichotomy in our brains. If you're not okay with the whole kind of religious structure of it, you go with, well, sexist, racists, homophobes, whatever you're going to throw in there to the mix as your devil

[Joe Getty]

woke and non woke, in short. Yeah, that's interesting. So your, your lifetime's quest, certainly not reproduction or you know, raising a happy family and cuddling your grandkids, etc. Which was eternal satisfaction enough for plenty of people. And it's not like striving for, you know, representative government or the natural rights of man versus oppression, blah, blah, blah. It's the Woke stuff, fighting against what you perceive. Well, and you're right, you're never going to be satisfied because a lot of things that are perfectly reasonable or even like better ideas are not going to go away. So you're going to spend your entire life fighting against meritocracy, for instance.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

Because that's white supremacy or privilege or something. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know what it's like to, to be childless at this point and think of the world without the investment that you have if you have kids, of wanting the world to continue to be a decent place to live for them. So I don't know quite what it looks like then.

[Joe Getty]

And you know, I'm, I'm old enough at this point and was weirdly aware enough of a lot of political and social issues as a kid. You didn't come at them, you didn't come at political issues through the lens of your religion because your religion was primarily a religious religion. It wasn't a sectarian policy judging other people religion. It was separate from politics to a huge extent. Whereas these people's religion is politics. Absolutely. And so it's impossible for them to come to an issue and give it a fair hearing because they already know where they're supposed to stand.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now that they have filled their empty spiritual jars with a bitter new wine, the Woke ideologues will never be able to let go of their man made Satan, the fascist, racist, sexist imperialists. You know all the stuff. We know all the stuff.

[Joe Getty]

Right? Right.

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The Armstrong and Getty Show

[Jack Armstrong]

I cut the levity is a line from my band teacher when I was about 15 years old. Glattus 15 years old in band and somebody made a joke or something when we're supposed to be paying attention and practicing and my band teacher as band teachers will got very, very angry that we weren't taking this music as seriously as he Would like. And he started, cut the levity. You hear me? Cut the levity. And there wasn't a one of us that had the idea what the word levity meant. We were just looking at each other. We just looked wide eyed. I mean he was really angry. And then when he went back to working with the oboes or something like that, we're like, what's levity?

[Joe Getty]

Well, you learned something that day and

[Jack Armstrong]

it was a teacher and it was pre smartphone so it wasn't like we could look it up real quick. So we left the room not having any idea in what way we had angered him, what our offense was.

[Joe Getty]

He was an angry man, wasn't he?

[Jack Armstrong]

Band teachers are as Joe and I are class. Yes, we've explained it and it makes sense because you are really, really, really good at something. Playing a musical instrument for reasons of bad luck or choice, you're now trying to teach people who don't give a crap about playing the trombone how to play the trombone. It makes you angry.

[Joe Getty]

It's. It's for many, many people the best option for making a living at the only thing you really care about and are really good at.

[Jack Armstrong]

And being surrounded by people that don't care about what you've dedicated your life to would make you angry.

[Joe Getty]

So this might be a dumb question, but I take it the kids in the band class don't want to be in that. I would think you would take that class because you want to learn the instrument.

[Show Announcer]

Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, some people, some people really, really want to learn it. And then there are people who kind of do. But you know, I'm not going to make it my life. I'm going to spend all day on it. And then there are people that do it because their parents wanted them to or whatever.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

Because it's good for you to learn a musical instrument but you're not motivated. Yeah. Oh, I hated practicing my trombone.

[Jack Armstrong]

How come I think back on that? Because like boring. I practice. I practice a musical instrument every single day. Very, very rare that I don't practice a musical instrument at this point in my life and. But I hate it in high school. I don't know why. I wish I'd have practiced.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. I just. The end go. I think it was the end goal was being reasonably capable at some piece of. You would never listen to willingly.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's part of it. Yeah. I'm not.

[Tony Ayo]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm not at home practicing stuff I have no interest in. Obviously. Why would I do that?

[Joe Getty]

I remember when I got into high school and like I Was in the jazz band and we had a pretty good program. I. I would practice relentlessly on my bass guitar parts.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I practiced number one.

[Joe Getty]

They were hard. And number two, the idea of being bad. Oh, I hated the idea of like, the judges saying, yeah, rhythm section was sloppy. That would have killed me.

[Jack Armstrong]

I. I practiced for pep band, would play pop tunes, popular songs that were on the radio or whatever. And I like practicing those and being good at it and, you know.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, the levity thing was not meant to turn into a conversation about high school band. It was meant restart the levity. It was meant to get us into this conversation about the science of babies laughing. Here's a baby laughing now.

[Joe Getty]

Baby's weirdly demonic. Do we have a different baby?

[Guest or Caller]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know about you. If you can listen to a baby laughing or watch a baby laughing and not smile, I bet you you should be locked up. You're gonna do something awful with your life.

[Guest or Caller]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

The evolutionary brilliance of the baby giggle. It's a guest essay in the New York Times today by somebody who studies this sort of stuff. And they got their PhD as a psychologist and they were having become a mom and, you know, just observing the baby laugh and what makes the baby laugh. And then the baby starts doing things to make you laugh and all that sort of stuff. And then. And then found out that, like, there's hardly any research on this at all. For some reason there's been this belief that there's lots of research on humor and what. What is humor and why we do it and all this stuff for. For older people and, you know, surprise, incongruity, things that make people laugh. And it's a bonding experience. And we, we. You're likely not to get punched if you're laughing with somebody. All these different things. But they had nothing on babies. And there was been an assumption. This person says do. They started studying it recently. There's been an assumption that it was just kind of like a nothing for babies. Their brains aren't developed enough to have any, like, rhyme or reason behind it, which I was kind of surprised by. I feel like having had a couple of babies and I've been around lots of babies in my life, but having had two myself, I didn't think it was meaningless. Did you?

[Joe Getty]

Being something of an authority on humor? That's a ridiculous notion.

[Jack Armstrong]

Have you met experience with babies laughing, Katie? Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

No, my. My nieces, I. I had like, little things that I knew each one of them. I would. I could get them both.

Oh, yeah. It's like as close to God as you can get with a baby.

[CarMax Announcer]

But if there's.

[Joe Getty]

If there's no rhyme or reason behind it, how come specific things make them laugh?

[Jack Armstrong]

It's driven by the brain's limbic system. You see, structures crucial for emotion, memory, and motivation.

[Joe Getty]

As I suspected.

Thank you for clearing that up.

[Jack Armstrong]

By six months, the lab found infants can intentionally produce a laugh. I don't remember when it happened, but I could have told you in my own house when they were. When one of them. When either Sam or Henry was intentionally trying to make me make. Wouldn't have needed a lab. I wouldn't needed a white coat. I wouldn't have needed PhD letters in front of my name. But they've studied this. Six month olds will deploy laughter to prolong a game of peek or boo or to signal a desire to join in. Yeah, all these things ring true to me. But laughter does more than increase pleasurable social contact. Infant laughter, especially when it occurs in response to humor, signals a cognitive achievement. When an infant laughs at a dad wearing a spoon as a mustache, it reveals the baby's knowledge about spoons and mustaches as well as about the person wearing it. Which actually is a fairly sophisticated thought if you think about it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Huh.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've grasped the. The fact that you have something on your face that's always there. It's never been a spoon before. Right now it's a spoon, which normally we use for eating. That is funny.

[Joe Getty]

Get you with a spoon instead of a mustache you cut up.

[Show Announcer]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

This New York Times article has endless clips of babies laughing at different things. And some of the reviews of this article were like, I feel like you just wrote this so you could have lots of videos of babies laughing, which.

[CarMax Announcer]

Fair enough.

[Jack Armstrong]

Which might be the truth. The truth. But I'll tell you what, going through all the different babies laughing on here, I am happier for the experience.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my gosh.

[Gronk]

That.

[Joe Getty]

That ought to be part of therapy for people. Oh, I love that idea.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was just thinking, why don't I watch a montage of YouTube videos? There's probably millions of them of babies laughing at various things every morning or afternoon or whenever my algorithm is very

[Joe Getty]

aware that I'm pregnant. And I am getting all of the adorable baby videos that you can imagine. Yes.

That's nice.

Wonderful.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, they have a couple examples of videos like when something really incongruent happens, like mom is putting the balloon in front of her face and moving the balloon in the faces there or whatever, and the baby just busting A gut laughing over and over again. And it's so.

[Joe Getty]

I know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Funny.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that's the great thing about babies. You can lean on your best bits. They don't get tired of them.

[Jack Armstrong]

They never say, heard it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Oh, this old.

[Jack Armstrong]

Get heckled by a baby.

[Joe Getty]

Tell you what, though, baby's got zero appreciation for irony. I mean, they just. You can explain it to them over and over.

[Jack Armstrong]

They just don't get it. Complex wordplay, right?

[Joe Getty]

Exactly. Wordsmithery.

[Tony Ayo]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

I like when they reach the point where the. The best form of humor for them is discovering gravity. Basically sitting in the high chair, and I can take this cup of milk, turn it upside down and pour it on the floor. Isn't that funny? And they just laugh and laugh and laugh.

[Joe Getty]

Right. You know, I was so glad I read some great books when. When Kate. When Judy was pregnant with Kate, our first kid, about how what a experience that is for kids. And if they throw something off of their. Their little tray or whatever, they're actually. They're learning a lot for that. So don't leap right to the no, no, no card. You know, you can. You can correct the behavior, but it's. And once you get hip to that and you see kids interacting with the world and looking at, you know, flowers and birds and clouds and the rest of it, it's just. It's magical. Which is why it just breaks my heart to see, you know, at least the mom's taking the kid for the walk, but the mom's taking a kid to the walk, and they're just on their cell phone scrolling through it or looking at. Not talking to the kid, not pointing out what they're seeing and stuff like that. Oh, it's terrible.

So I have a question about what you just said. They learn a lot from throwing things off of the tray and whatnot. I just saw an ad for this product that is a mat, and it has a bunch of little attachments with little bungees so that when they throw the thing off of the tray, it falls. And then the video, it shows the baby, like, realizing it's still there and picking it back up. Do you think that's a bad thing?

[Jack Armstrong]

I doubt any harm would be done, but.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that's interesting. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's another thing. They're figuring out the baby bungee. Getting back to the seriousness about this again, and this woman, this PhD, is kind of confused that we haven't done this in the past. But as every parent knows, there's all kinds of milestones that you keep an eye on. And your pediatrician asks you about and stuff like that, that walking, talking, you know, making sounds, just all kinds of different things if you're on schedule or not. But for whatever reason, they've never done that with humor. Although walking and talking tend to steal the show. Simply laughing is just as important a milestone. And to understand if they're cognitively complex brain is coming along at the right speed and they've just never measured does your kid laugh at stuff as opposed to have they started walking or talking or.

[Joe Getty]

It's a milestone. Now I know a few of my friends, they've, they've been keeping very close track to when their baby starts to laugh.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh really? That's interesting. I don't remember anybody asking when has he started laughing yet. Oh yeah, of course the answer might be maybe you're not funny, maybe you're just really not funny. You are not. But I think you're funny. You're Trevor Noah. You think Trevor Noah's baby ever laughed? Probably not, no.

[X Games Announcer]

I doubt it.

[Jack Armstrong]

In the video below, a 14 month old baby offers food to his dad, then suddenly reneges, feeding himself instead to entertain his laughing parents. It's when you cross the milestone into you're doing humorous bits like you're not laughing at the incongruity or something or the surprise somebody else is doing to you, you're doing it to someone else. And that's also a fantastic milestone. The comedian when they decide they can make you laugh with, you know, want some of my food? I put it in my mouth.

[Joe Getty]

Think about what's happening neurologically, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

That's what it says in the article, like how complex that is. It's actually pretty complicated. That's awesome.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, huh?

[Jack Armstrong]

If I could get a smile out of my high schooler, that'd be something.

[Joe Getty]

Talk to your baby, read to your baby, take your baby for walks, talk to them.

[Jack Armstrong]

Trevor knows. Maybe just sit there stone faced.

[Joe Getty]

Hey, mommy, look. He seems like a nice enough fella, but what's the appeal? He's not funny.

[Show Announcer]

Armstrong and getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Ryan Reynolds]

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[Ders Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Ders Armstrong]

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[Ders Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Mom, can I have Lingokids?

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Dad, Lingokids, please.

[Jack Armstrong]

When did we become the Lingokids house? No idea.

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[Show Announcer]

The Armstrong and Getty Show.

[Jack Armstrong]

What's your message to those college students who many of them are worried that

[Mint Mobile Announcer]

they won't be able to have jobs because of AI?

[Guest or Caller]

Well, I think there will be a lot of jobs in the future. This is like an incredible new tool and people are incredibly creative, so they're using it in all sorts of new ways and I expect that that will really continue and that we're still all going to be, you know, working more than we wish we were for a long time and being very productive.

[Jack Armstrong]

Everything is going to be fine for the foreseeable future, according to Sam Altman of Chat GPT. And why wouldn't you believe him?

[Joe Getty]

I feel silly that I was so worried.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know. All that Sam hubbub about having to have a universal income because nobody's going to have a job. What a waste of time flapping our jaws. Turns out no need whatsoever. Things are be fine.

[Joe Getty]

You heard it there. Automated weapon systems wiping out humanity at the behest of their computer overlords. All that is silly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sam Altman didn't hear all those boos across the country every time AI was mentioned at any graduation and think I've got a serious PR problem with with my investment at all. He just sincerely believes this is going to be good for everyone.

[Joe Getty]

Sure. Yeah. Hey, other people might be influenced by the trillions of dollars I've spent already, but not me. I'm Sam Altman. All right. Scam Altman. Believe Elon. We mentioned yesterday that Neil Ferguson had written a piece entitled AI is the most dangerous armors race in history. It's a rather lengthy and I haven't read the whole thing, but I was scanning it desperately because his premise is that we really need wise, intelligent regulation of AI so it doesn't spin out of control while simultaneously we're competing with Xi Jinping and the communist Chinese who don't have the slightest interest in like, regulation to keep it safe. And I admit freely, I did not read the whole thing. I didn't have time. But I kept scanning it, like every topic, sentence of every paragraph. All right, Neil, where do you get to the what that would look like part? And I never found anything like a prescription and that's you know, and again, I haven't read the whole thing, so I'm not accusing Neil of being incomplete or anything like that. But I agree something needs to be done. But what? And what about the Chinese? Here's a small clue of the sort of thing that might come down the pike. The Wall Street Journal's writing about how the top AI CEOs, and that's the head guy for Google, whose name is Demis Hassabis. Sam Altman and Dario Amodi all came together in calling for Congress to protect against biological threats posed by AI, specifically biological weapons and that sort of thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah, remember we read that thing. I think it was in the New York Times piece about various scientists that are. This is their biggest concern is how easy it would be to build some sort of biological weapon through AI, like just a regular person.

[Joe Getty]

So those three guys are among the heavyweight signatories of a letter urging Congress to require safeguards when companies order synthetic DNA and rna, which is a key step in developing certain vaccines and biotech breakthroughs. What they're saying, I actually like this, this, this, this sentence. That's from the letter. I'll read it to you. AI systems are improving rapidly. And alongside incredible benefits to science and medicine, there is a real possibility that the knowledge barriers which have historically prevented bad actors from obtaining biological weapons will meaningfully erode.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's a meaning. Good way to put what I was just trying to say. Yes, any numbnuts can now do it.

[Joe Getty]

The how to is going to be available to virtually everyone, or at least a hell of a lot. And so the only thing we can do is carefully screen who gets the building blocks. So you've got to regulate the companies that sell the building blocks. It's like, you know, you can't order 15 pounds of pseudoephedrine because the Feds know you're going to be making meth. Maybe that's the best we can do.

[Jack Armstrong]

It sounds to me.

[Joe Getty]

It's not super reassuring, is it?

[Jack Armstrong]

First thought, it's the only way we've got to go about this. If there are six key components to making a biological weapon, you got to make sure the Amazons of the world and everybody else, you know, doesn't sell them to people that will restrict the

[Joe Getty]

number of novel biological weapons that will be unleashed. But it won't stop it. It can't.

[Guest or Caller]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And that only helps in the United States.

[Joe Getty]

I mean, my example may not have been perfect, but, but I mean, there are various substances that are just absolutely known. Virtually the only Legitim. I'm not legitimate. The only use for this is to manufacture drugs or weapons, and everybody knows that. But you can still get it on the black market. If you have enough money, you can get anything.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I remember how troubling that story was. We had just a couple of weeks ago, there weren't that many components and it wasn't that difficult to make some

[Joe Getty]

pretty awful biological weapons.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. So imagine that in the hands of a Ted. Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber, when he was running around, if instead of his

[Tony Ayo]

best

[Jack Armstrong]

he could do at the time, homemade bombs, he was mailing around, he could have made some sort of biological weapon like that or Al Qaeda or whoever.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. And there have been some, like the. The famous terrible ricin attack, or was it attacks on Japanese subways that killed many, many anthrax and the rest of it. I just. It's so worrisome. I remember being so troubled as a teenager. I guess it was when I first became aware that the Anarchists Cookbook was available in various libraries that taught you how to make bombs and weapons and that sort of thing. Turns out there's just not that many people who want to make bombs and weapons, thank God. But as the Boston Marathon bombing showed us, there are enough to be fairly horrifying.

[Show Announcer]

Armstrong and Gettysburg.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Tony Ayo]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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