The Best Weekend Talk Show in America Hour One

Summary

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Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: The Best Weekend Talk Show in America Hour One

Date: May 25, 2026
Host: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Producer: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This hour of Armstrong & Getty’s “Best Weekend Talk Show in America” dives into an explosive week of news, focusing on the sensational Luigi Mangioni murder trial, disturbing activism around it, concerns over the rise of real-world revolutionary rhetoric, and America’s growing AI anxiety. The hosts dissect the disturbing behavior of so-called “activist journalists,” debate cultural trends in social and political violence, and discuss the shifting landscape around artificial intelligence—a topic that’s stirring deep unease across the public and political spectrum. The duo’s trademark irreverence, skepticism, and humor punctuate every segment.

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Main Topics & Key Discussions

1. Tumult in America: The War with Iran & The Luigi Mangioni Trial

• Opening mood:
  • Joe Getty: “It was a tumultuous week as usual. What the heck is going on with the war with Iran?... And those three loser fake journalists at the Luigi Mangioni trial. What was going on with that?” (03:11)
• Trial recap:
  • Luigi Mangioni stands accused of murdering UnitedHealth CEO Brian Thompson.
    • Evidence: A gun matching the murder weapon and a red notebook—reportedly a confession. (03:35)
    • The trial’s circus atmosphere: "Hot chicks waiting outside the courtroom to cheer for Mangione is about as depressing as anything I can imagine." — Jack Armstrong (04:00)

2. The Activist “Journalists”: Outrage at Press Credentials

• Who got access and why?
  • Three young women, styling themselves as journalists but acting as activists, received prized New York City press credentials.
    • Joe Getty incredulously: “How did these chicks get in there?” (05:18)
• Activist comments:
  • Quotes from press conference outside the trial, including:
    • "His children are better off without him. They need to learn to not be like their dad and enjoy the blood money." — April Rios (05:51, 06:34, 07:10)
    • "Millions of Americans suffer every day... We had a literal infant die because of how negligent health insurance was... If you guys are okay with someone like Ryan Thompson being around... that says more about you as a person... That's what mass social murder is." — Elena Weisbrot (07:10)
    • "He's responsible for more deaths than Osama bin Laden. And I remember Americans celebrating when Osama bin Laden was killed. It's not like we don't understand heroic violence..." (09:08)
    • "Why do we protect the Second Amendment so much? Is it to allow people to shoot up schools?... I think it's to protect our democracy... when your democracy is eroded and there's no other option, what are we meant to do?" — Ashley Rojas (09:55)
    • "Other countries have had revolutions for far less. We're the most cucked county in all of human history and I'm tired of it. It's time for everyone to grow some balls and stand on business." (11:10)

Notable Reaction and Commentary

• Moral confusion & radical rhetoric:
  • “The whole thing falls apart very quickly if we stop murdering everybody that we kind of don’t like for some reason.” — Jack Armstrong (06:56)
  • “These brain-dead Maoist mannequins go with the ‘social murder’ argument, which is out of every radical leftist movement in the last century.” — Joe Getty (08:31)
• Institutional complicity:
  • The hosts point to Mayor Mamdani’s office as actively enabling these activists for political ends (13:56).
  • "They credential these women because they agree with them. They're activists hired by, sponsored by… Mamdani's Islamist, overthrow-the-Western-civilization aid." — Joe Getty (13:56)
• Media silence & concern:
  • “The fact that more media outlets aren’t interested in how the mayor’s office in New York gave press passes to people so they could… say ‘I’m glad the guy got murdered’—what the hell?” — Jack Armstrong (34:47)
  • “You’d think just their pride as journalists would motivate… them to say something about it... The underreporting is really, really troubling.” — Joe Getty (35:46)

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3. Social Trends: From Wokeism to Physical Violence

• Has "wokeism" peaked?
  • The hosts cite Tyler Cowen’s analysis that the cultural wave of woke social pressure peaked around 2022 and has been replaced by a scarier “culture of anger and resentment and physical action.” (37:54)
    • “It’s no longer about capturing institutions... now the hardcore left is actually shooting people.” — Joe Getty (38:33)
    • “We might have been better off with the previous thing then, huh?” — Jack Armstrong (38:33)
• Masculine vs. feminine cultural aggression:
  • “The older wokeism reflected stronger female influences... This is turning more masculine and more face-punchy.” — Joe Getty (39:41)
• Personal safety and political rage:
  • Jack recounts being aggressively targeted because of his Tesla Cybertruck, expressing concern over rising tribal animosity and the normalization of violence based on political identification. (40:14-42:37)

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4. AI Anxiety: Public Backlash and Geopolitical Manipulation

• Public anxiety over AI:
  • Joe Getty introduces the “AI Update” segment, referencing Eric Schmidt’s commencement speech about AI's inevitable reach:
    • "AI will become part of how work is done... If you have a problem you want to solve, you can now assemble a team of AI agents..." — Eric Schmidt (22:06–23:15)
    • Jack Armstrong retorts: “How do these AI dudes at the top ... not get that we’re not as excited about this as you are?” (23:41)
    • “We’re not as optimistic about this as you are.” — Jack Armstrong (27:05, 50:37)
• American backlash:
  • Booed commencement speakers, protests against new data centers, policy debates.
    • “People hate AI. AI is less popular than ICE. AI is less popular than politicians.” (27:29, 51:00)
  • Fear drivers: Loss of jobs, energy costs, educational impacts, mental health anxieties, and outside manipulation.
• AI as political/propaganda football:
  • Reports that China, Russia, and Iran are exacerbating anti-AI sentiment in the U.S., especially around opposition to data centers (29:19–54:14).
  • Possibility that AI debates could split along party lines:
    • “I could easily see the Republicans being more the for-it party and the Democrats being against it... The people that control the Democratic Party, your master's degrees crowd, they gotta hate AI—that's gonna blow up that whole world.” — Jack Armstrong (54:14)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On activist journalists:
  • “They need to learn to not be like their dad and enjoy the blood money. Kid, I'm standing on business. Brian Thompson. I don't give a f— about millions of Americans. I liked it.” — Activist outside the Mangioni trial (06:34, replayed at 34:06)
• Societal breakdown:
  • “Look, it all comes down to: who decides? If we’re going to just start murdering people we think are really bad for society, guess what? The people on the other crowd might think YOU’RE really bad for society...” — Jack Armstrong (10:38)
• On the “culture of anger”:
  • “If ‘wokeism’ is dwindled, what has replaced it? ...We’re moving into an era of a culture of anger and resentment and physical action more and more...” — Joe Getty (37:54, paraphrased from Tyler Cowen)
• On AI techno-optimism:
  • "How do these AI dudes... not get that we’re not as excited about this as you are? You’re gonna become a gazillionaire… Everybody else is horrified by this." — Jack Armstrong (23:41)
• Populist pushback:
  • “People are waking up to the overwhelmingness of it. Even if they’re not acutely aware of specifics, they just sense this is an overwhelming force.” — Joe Getty (26:11)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Topic | |------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:11 | Opening: chaos of the week, war with Iran, Mangioni trial teaser | | 03:35 | Review of evidence in Mangioni trial ("red notebook," "gun") | | 04:00 | "Hot chicks" cheering for Mangioni: cultural commentary | | 05:18 | How did activist "journalists" get press credentials? | | 05:51 | (Audio) Activists’ shocking quotes — callous remarks about murder victim’s family (replayed at 34:06) | | 06:56 | Discussion of "social murder" rhetoric | | 07:10 | More extremist activist statements | | 09:08 | Osama bin Laden comparison and “heroic violence” | | 09:55 | Second Amendment rhetoric twisted by activism | | 11:10 | Call for revolution: “Grow some balls and stand on business” | | 13:56 | Hosts connect mayor’s office to activist credentialing (“Red-Green alliance”) | | 20:00 | Segment shift: Teen tech use & managing kids’ phones | | 21:30 | Start of "AI Update" | | 22:06 | Eric Schmidt’s AI commencement remarks (montage) | | 23:41 | Hosts discuss disconnect between tech leaders & public about AI | | 27:05 | American AI backlash — protests, job fears, poll numbers | | 29:19 | Evidence of foreign propaganda against US AI/data innovation | | 34:06 | Activist quotes replayed; hosts revisit outrage at media complicity | | 37:54 | Tyler Cowen’s cultural analysis: from "wokeism" to anger/violence phase | | 40:14 | Jack’s story: being threatened over driving a Tesla Cybertruck | | 54:14 | AI debate could mirror party lines: Republicans for, Democrats against, and the tensions there |

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

Armstrong & Getty’s hour is tense, reactive, and laced with biting humor and dire warnings. They alternate between lampooning activist absurdity and sounding alarms about the real dangers in media complicity, rising political violence, and technocratic disregard for widespread anxieties about AI. The hour is a rapid-fire tour through some of 2026’s most contentious issues—offering more questions than answers and channeling both frustration and dark amusement at the modern moment.

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If You Only Remember Three Things

• The Luigi Mangioni trial became a cultural lightning rod, not just due to the murder itself, but because city officials apparently enabled a show trial for far-left activist “journalists”—and nearly no mainstream institutions seem alarmed.
• America’s “woke” moment may be waning, but it’s giving way (say the hosts and their sources) to a more physically aggressive, resentful culture—on both left and right—in which violence and bullying over tribal identity and politics are increasingly normalized.
• Widespread AI anxiety is surging, driven by existential fears about jobs, energy, education, and manipulated in part by foreign adversaries—with major political ramifications looming as AI becomes yet another partisan battlefront.

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For news, debate, and commentary presented in a brisk, sometimes exasperated style—with plenty of skepticism about both media and political extremes—this Armstrong & Getty hour offers a whirlwind summary of some of the key anxieties and outrage trends of 2026.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

It was a tumultuous week as usual. What the heck is going on with the war with Iran? Are we going to get back to that? And those three loser fake journalists at the Luigi Mangioni trial. What was going on with that? That it's just the beginning. There's so much to talk about.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

Accused killer Luigi Mancione entered a New York courtroom today where a judge ruled some of the most damning evidence can be used against him at trial. That includes this gun which prosecutors said matches the one used to kill United Healthcare chief executive Brian Thompson on a New York City sidewalk. And this red notebook that prosecutors described as a confession Mangioni wrote about wanting to whack the CEO of the greed fueled health insurance cartel.

[Jack Armstrong]

The. The fact that there were hot chicks waiting outside the courtroom to cheer for Mangione is about as depressing as anything I can imagine.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, there were a couple of different groups or descriptions. First of all, you had, as Jack charmingly described, just good looking women who wanted to get in to like see him and maybe catch his eye. Some of them dressed as the video game Luigi from the. What's its game?

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

Mario Brothers.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. So you got that brand of wackadoodle and then a different sort of just utterly waste of skin. Jackass. These three fake media people who you may have seen already, three attractive youngish females all dressed very differently, interestingly enough, and I'll get to why I mentioned that. But all fetchingly as attractive young women who came out with their city, issued press credentials around their necks and proceeded to make statements to the assembled media. Now do you know how hard it

[Jack Armstrong]

would have been to get a press credential for that yesterday? I mean that was like one of maybe the biggest media story of the day. So everybody was trying to get in there. Why did these three chicks get in there?

[Joe Getty]

I will get into that very thing. But first of all, let's hear what some of them had to say about the cold blooded murder on the pavement of young father Brian Thompson by a confused young man who thought something. Something. Health care insurance companies are bad. We'll just start with 31 and roll from there. Michael.

[Activist Woman 1]

His children are better off without him. They need to learn to not be like their dad and enjoy the blood money.

[Joe Getty]

Okay. His kids are better off without him.

[Jack Armstrong]

Something they'll say. How do you say that out loud, even about a bad person?

[Joe Getty]

Enjoy the blood money, kids. Yes. Okay, that was. And I'm debating whether to give these women's names. They refused to give their last names, but their names were clearly visible on their press credentials and many people have printed them. You know, that was April Rios. And this is Elena Weisbrot and Ms. Rios, once again, I'm standing on business.

[Activist Woman 1]

Brian Thompson. I don't give a fine, Brian.

[Joe Getty]

Millions of Americans liked it F. I'm standing on business. F. Brian Thompson. I don't give an f that he died. Then the other one jumps in. I liked it.

Murder.

[Jack Armstrong]

Cold blooded murder. You liked?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Over some vague dissatisfaction with the corporation.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you got two brain cells to rub together, you. You should be able to realize that the whole thing falls apart very quickly if we stop murdering everybody that we kind of don't like for some reason.

[Joe Getty]

Here is the lovely Lena Weisbrot again.

[Activist Woman 1]

Millions of Americans suffer every single day from the last when it comes to united health care. We had a literal infant named who because of how neglig health insurance was. She died. An infant died. So if you guys are okay with someone like Ryan Thompson being around and that being a part of our society, that says more about you as a person because you look absolutely monstrous defending someone like that. Participates in social murder. That's what mass social murder.

[Joe Getty]

Ah, there's a lot there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that last phrase, which I don't know that I'd ever heard.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, we talked about it last week.

[Jack Armstrong]

We did.

[Joe Getty]

The concept of social murder, that's the

[Jack Armstrong]

advantage of being me. I can hide my own Easter eggs. Right. This happens with my kids all the time, I think. Well, that's interesting. I said, dad, we talked about that the other day.

[Joe Getty]

Those policies that lead to bad outcomes, they call social murder.

[Jack Armstrong]

Mass social murder.

[Joe Getty]

Obviously, if somebody's a murderer, you can kill them to prevent them from murdering again. It is very, very Maoist sort of concept. Yeah, yeah. I also liked how at the beginning she was talking about millions of Americans suffer from. It's kind of inaudible, their insurance. A literal infant died. That's cute. Okay, I couldn't pass that up.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

And then these brain dead Maoist, you know, mannequins go with the social murder argument, which again is out of like every radical leftist movement in the last century or so. Gosh, it's 20, 26 century and a quarter century and a half where you justify murder by saying, well, their policies kill people, therefore we are justified. And young people known moral sense, they fall for that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. And always keeping in mind you can't dismiss these idiots because if they cheer on some other idiot who shoots you, you're just as dead.

[Joe Getty]

Correct. As if some genius. You gave them the excuse. Next clip.

[Activist Woman 1]

He's responsible for more deaths than Osama bin Laden. And I remember Americans celebrating when os of bin Laden was killed. It's not like we don't understand heroic violence or like when violence is good, there's a, that's like as American as America got.

[Jack Armstrong]

God, who originally put that thought in her head. So he, as the guy running United Healthcare, is responsible for more deaths than Osama bin Laden. And we all cheered when Osama Bin Laden died.

[Joe Getty]

Right, I want you to tuck that away. The fact that she referenced Osama bin Laden. And hang on for a minute. And then this is Ashley Rojas, who is the third of the trio who we had not mentioned specifically.

[Activist Woman 1]

I mean, why do we protect the second Amendment so much? Is it to allow people to shoot up schools? Or is it, I think it's to protect our democracy. It's not saying, you know, we should all take up arms, but when your democracy is eroded and there's no other option, like what are we meant to do?

[Joe Getty]

All right, so why do we protect the second Amendment? So we can shoot up schools? No, to protect our democracy. Like shooting down young Brian Thompson in cold blood on the street. So that's interesting. Appealing to right wing America or conservative America. Second Amendment defenders. That's an interesting route to go for a young woman like that. File that one away too for a minute.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'll never understand how these people, right or left. It's the same with the censorship argument, how they don't get. Look, it all comes down to who decides.

[Joe Getty]

See, that's the problem.

[Jack Armstrong]

See, if we're going to just start murdering people we think are really bad for society, guess what? The people on the other crowd might think you're really bad for society. You Understand how this works.

[Joe Getty]

And it falls apart really fast. Jack. Assuming that these are young fools, which. Which there are many young. Maybe I'm the old fool. Oh, that was good. One more clip.

[Activist Woman 1]

You know, other countries have had revolutions for far less. We're pretty much the most covetous and submissive population in all of human history, and I'm tired of it. It's time for everyone to grow some balls and stand. Stand on business.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I didn't understand everything.

[Joe Getty]

Giggle. Other countries have had revolutions for far less. We're the most cucked country on earth. Cuckolded, you know, blah, blah, blah. Humil excited. It's time to grow some effing balls. And then the other girls giggle, and then we're standing on business. Okay. Okay. So, you know, like a good mystery, lays out clues and bread crumbs and that sort of thing and then brings it together at the end. I got a few more breadcrumbs for you. Let's see who's writing this article. I always give credit. I am an honorable man. Let's see, it's a. Kirsten. Kirsten. Kirsten Fleming in the New York Post. Jack, as usual. Kirsten, Kristen, Kirsten.

[Jack Armstrong]

We get to call you whatever you want. You went to that name, right?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. It's not our fault that your names are interchangeable. Anyway, so she's writing a piece about how a friend in media wanted to know how to get a New York City press pass. And she sent him the form to fill out, but told him it was really a long shot unless you're an established reporter with a legitimate body of work because they're very selective. And she says, how foolish of me. Apparently all you need is a substack and a lust for police violence. Perhaps it helps if you give yourself a cutesy name like the Manginistas.

[Jack Armstrong]

So that one almost made me take a knee. The Manginistas.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that's what they call themselves. Yeah. So his murder cheer squad showed up to support him. And these extremists have been granted full legitimacy by Mayor Zoran Mundani's executive director of press credentials, Samir Nasser. Although she's mostly behind the scenes, the official city biography for Nasser describes her as a native New Yorker and first generation Arab American who's worked for CBS News, Fox Business, and Al Jazeera America, that delightful offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood and the country of Qatar. So the trio who looked like fan girls, finally getting backstage passes to meet their favorite K pop group, were obviously not there to report on the Hearing they were there to endorse and justify the cold blooded murder of Brian Thompson.

[Jack Armstrong]

So Mandami's got woman vote for Summer. Summer got passes to these people so they could go out and make these statements to the media. That was the whole point.

[Joe Getty]

Exactly. Mamdani's Islamianist and I use that term to just to save time and not re explain the Red Green alliance yet again. But Momdani's Islamist staff, including himself, sees somebody who's all for tearing down the system of the free market or capitalism, if you prefer that term. Justifying political murder on the sidewalk because of capitalism. That is his brand. That says that's not a bug, it's a feature. They credential these women because they agree with them. They're not young fools, they're activists hired by, sponsored by. In a very real way, Mamdani's behind the scenes Islamist, you know, overthrow the Western civilization aid. That's who they were. That's who they are.

[Jack Armstrong]

I wish more people would pick up on that. The mayor of the most important city in the world got these people into that courtroom so that they come out and make those statements about the United States and justifying murdering executives because they're committing social murder and all kinds of other weird revolutionary stuff.

[Joe Getty]

And these people, I mean one of them describes herself as a child model, actress and influencer, currently female rage encourager, abolitionist and social fascism resistor. Weaponized. My master's degree. That's her social media profile. And Kirsten, Kirsten Kristen who's writing this article, she doesn't connect those dots. At the end she's still saying these young fools, you know, they're a joke. Not every clown with an X account should be near officials, blah, blah, blah. No, you don't get it. This is what they want. They're there to advocate what they want, which is tearing down Western civilization.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Even with all that stuff. You'd think advocating the murder of executives on the street would like be roundly heckled or something, but it's not. Didn't even really make the news.

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That's how far they've gotten.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, both my teens use the phone for their alarm which is like the iPhone. Your smartphone is a great alarm, there's no doubt about that. But so I set up the I got the thing set up on my phone. I suppose you can do it on Android. You can do it Apple phones where both my kids since I control their phones all that's everything shuts off at 9:30 for one kid and 10:30 for the other kid. Anyway, my oldest I don't know if any parents if you've ever heard this from your teenagers. None of the other parents do this.

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[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know if that's true or not. So any all parents doing this where you you shut down your kids computer phone stuff at night so they don't have the option because it's, I mean it's, it's I wish I need somebody who controls my phone to shut it down in the middle of the night. I don't have the self control. Last night I was having trouble sleeping. I was on my phone in the middle of the night.

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[Jack Armstrong]

But of course, teens are doing that.

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Unless they can't.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Well, speaking of technology, do we have a theme music for our AI update? We really ought to come up with something short and wacky. Wouldn't that be a liner or something? Yeah, because we, you know, you got to brand it. Branding is so important these days, isn't it? That's what I read somewhere. But how about a little AI update here? Multifaceted too. First of all, I think this is revealing. This is an edit of Eric Schmidt, who is the ex CEO of Google. He was given the commencement address of the University of Arizona and was talking about tech stuff. Not surprisingly. Again, this is edited together, but you'll get the idea.

[Eric Schmidt]

Last December, Time magazine selected its Person of the year for 2025. And it was this time it was the Architects of Artificial Intelligence. Interesting. It will touch every profession, every classroom, every hospital, every laboratory, every person and every relationship you have. I know what many of you are feeling about that. I can hear you. There is a fear. We do not know. We do not know the precise contours of what this transformation will look like. Choose a diversity of perspectives, including. Let me add, if you'd let me make this point, please.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Eric Schmidt]

If you don't care about science, that's okay. Because AI is going to touch everything else as well. Whatever path you choose.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Eric Schmidt]

AI will become part of how work is done.

[Joe Getty]

Bad strategy.

[Eric Schmidt]

If you have a pro problem in the world you want to solve, you can now assemble a team of AI agents to help you with the parts that you could never accomplish on your own. Let me give you some advice first. Find a way to say yes and thank you very much and good night.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's what they're asking. Michael, play that again.

[Eric Schmidt]

What the type of AI sh it is.

[Jack Armstrong]

How I don't understand why these AI dudes at the top of these corporations don't get that we're not as excited about this as you are. You're going to become a gazillionaire 10

[Joe Getty]

times or already are.

[Jack Armstrong]

And you're going to become even richer. Everybody else is horrified by this.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's as if his speech was. After this assembly, you're going to be beaten and have all your stuff taken away from you. What?

[Jack Armstrong]

And when we start booing. So the guy from Google goes with. Okay, okay. Well, you better get on board because it's. Don't me that tone. I don't have to like what you're saying. See, that's the thing you don't get. I don't have to like what you're telling me, right? Or pretend that I do, that everything I've known my entire life and everything we've prepared for is going to be completely blown up. And you don't. You can't convince me that I should be excited about that.

[Joe Getty]

Learn to say yes. Thank you, Good night. Yeah, I know, I know.

[Jack Armstrong]

How do they not get this? I don't understand. Even Elon, who I like more than most of your tech people, I don't understand how you present this. And nobody will have to work in the future. Like thinking everybody thinks, oh, cool, yeah, gee, money. Then how is society going to be structured? How do you not get that? That's a terrifying notion.

[Joe Getty]

On the other hand, kids these days, whatever happened, rolling your eyes and looking at your watch and thinking, geez, when is this going to be over?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, well, at least they were. I didn't go to my graduation, but nobody was standing up there and saying every single major here will be useless within 18 months.

[Joe Getty]

You have wasted your time and your money. Your dreams are already dead.

[Jack Armstrong]

In fact, what your parents do who are paying for everything in your life currently, their jobs will be gone. Thank you and good night.

[Joe Getty]

And they're only 45. So a handful of AI related stories the American rebellion against AI is gaining steam. Booed commencement speakers block data centers plummeting poll numbers. Fast growing industry has a faster growing crisis, according to a team of writers at the Wall Street Journal.

[Jack Armstrong]

The data centers one is an interesting thing. The real the pushback on those which is being portrayed as well, it's going to use so much water, so much energy or take up so much space. But. But there's all kinds of corporations that use that much water, space and everything like that. It's a fear of a I thing. I think that's driving it.

[Joe Getty]

I think you're right. If you have fear and loathing, to quote Hunter S. Thompson about something, you will look for more reasons to indict it, of course. But in one poll after another in recent weeks, respondents have overwhelmingly voiced concerns about AI, a challenge to claims by industry execs that their technology would gain popularity by improving people's lives. Consumers resent energy price jumps, exacerbated by the spread of data centers. That's undeniable. Workers spear widespread fear, rather widespread job losses. Parents worry about AI undermining education and harming children's Mental health. In recent months, the wave of anger has brought protests, swayed election results and spurred isolated acts of violence. Yeah, people are waking up to the overwhelmingness of it. Even if they're not like, acutely aware of some of the specifics. They think, man, this is, I think they just sense that this is an overwhelming force.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, hey, tech giants, read the room again. We're not as optimistic about this as you are.

[Joe Getty]

Right. They know what's best for us.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, exactly. That's the way they're talking to us. Sure.

[Joe Getty]

There certainly is some egomania involved, Michael. I also just think they're reading the room that they're in where everybody's invested

[Jack Armstrong]

in getting richer and richer on a daily basis.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. Dylan Patel, CEO of AI infrastructure consulting firm you've never heard of it, recently predicted there would be a large, there would be large scale protests against OpenAI and Anthropic within a few months. People hate AI. AI is less popular than ICE. AI is less popular than politicians. He said on a podcast, you know,

[Jack Armstrong]

we, we touched on this topic. I don't remember why it was the interesting notion that AI so far hadn't been put into a Democrat or Republican thing because everything has to be on one side or the other right event.

[Joe Getty]

Most left and left coded or right coded as they say.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, most stuff ends up. I hate that because it's a Republican thing or I hate that because it's a Democratic thing. So Mark Halpern on his afternoon newscast had a, a Republican strategist and a Democratic strategist on. They're talking about the Spencer Pratt campaign for LA mayor and how well he's using the AI ads and how they've caught on and gone viral in this and that. And Mark Alpern is talking about that being the future of politics. But Democrats, lots of big Democratic campaigns and apparently in inside the upper echelons of the Democratic Party, they're going no AI. They're, they're going to run on. None of our ads are AI. They're all human beings for a couple of different reasons. They think that, that, that fits in with their, like, you know, their philosophy. Philosophy of the Democratic Party along with they don't want anybody losing jobs. They're all about, everybody's got to keep their job forever, no matter what. You know, that's kind of a Democratic thing, no matter what event.

[Joe Getty]

Creative. Right. Destruction of capitalism.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, possible. And Mark Halpern's thought was that would be a terrible idea to let the Republicans run away with all these great free ads. While you're still not doing it the old fashioned way. But that's how it might split along the parties.

[Joe Getty]

Great reporting here from the Washington Free Beacon. Propaganda outlets controlled by China as well as Russia and Iran are promoting campaigns in the US to oppose the construction of new data centers. Beijing and Moscow want to slow down artificial intelligence innovation in the United States as much as they can, just to weaken us and to strengthen themselves.

[Jack Armstrong]

So some of the anti data center stuff you've seen, maybe a lot of it is coming out of China and Russia.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's at least aided in the same way that, you know, Russian bots have, you know, in the wake of Black Lives Matter, they're hardcore pro Black Lives Matter post and hardcore anti. They just want to set each other's throats. And this is not to say that all the concerns we've been talking about are illegitimate, but it's an interesting aspect of the modern world you remember. Well, as they put it in the Free Beacon, the campaign appears to have made inroads with at least one American lawmaker. When Bernie Sanders participated in a discussion a week ago so with two Chinese academics on the existential threat of AI. From the CCP's English language newspaper China Daily and its subsidiary Global Times, to they name check a bunch of others, they're pushing the message within the United States that the data centers that power artificial intelligence are harmful, energy hungry, causing major spikes, blah, blah, blah.

[Jack Armstrong]

The more I think about it, the more I think it could if it's, if it's going to, if AI is going to end up being like every other topic where it's, you know, this party is for it, this party is against it. I could easily see the Republicans being more the for it party and the Democrats being against it for some of the reasons we already mentioned. But the, the people that control the Democratic Party, your master's degrees crowd, they gotta hate AI that's gonna blow up that whole world. Whereas a lot of your working class people who are now Republicans used to be Democrats back in the day, but are now Trump Republicans. They're the crowd that's saying it's gonna eliminate my job. Universal income sounds great, I don't care what I do. I hate my job. So that might work.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Activist Woman 1]

His children are better off without him. They need to learn to not be like their dad and enjoy the blood money. Kid, I'm standing on business. Brian Foxton. I don't give a f about millions of Americans. I liked it.

[Joe Getty]

Those are the voices of those three young woman, quote, unquote, journalists who weren't journalists at all. They were far left wing activists who were approved by the far left wing activists in mayor Mandani's office to attend the trial of the murder of young Brian Thompson and then spout their Marxist platitudes. Just absolutely bizarre moment. Again, troubling.

[Jack Armstrong]

And think at some point I'd cease being surprised. The fact that more media outlets aren't interested in how the mayor's office in New York gave press passes to people so that they could come out and say, I'm glad the guy got murdered. Yeah, what the hell?

[Joe Getty]

As the press.

[Jack Armstrong]

How.

[Joe Getty]

How twisted are you? I mean it. Because I don't think that David Muir's of the world and the New York Times of the world approve of that.

[Jack Armstrong]

No. But it.

[Joe Getty]

Because it has a faint whiff of the left, they won't criticize it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know. And they're, they're like we talked about the other day. This is one of. This is the hottest story of the day in all of America. There are all kinds of news outlets that I'm sure didn't get press passes that wanted them. You'd think there'd be more complaint that, okay, so you're giving press passes to people who are in favor of murder, but I can't get in there to write for the Omaha Gazette or whatever.

[Joe Getty]

Sure. Yeah. You'd think just their pride as journalists would motivate, you know, quote, unquote, pride as journalists would motivate them to say something about it. You're right. The underreporting that is really, really troubling. Anyway, Tyler Cowan writes for the Free Press. And, and he, in early 2022, had argued that wokeism had peaked. I remember reading that, that, that piece, and he mentions himself, that it was met with a mix of skepticism and hostility because wokeism seemed to be rising to a lot of people. You had corporate boards adopting, you know, racial equity audits, for instance, and DEI crap was popping up here, there and everywhere.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, just. I'm sure you're going to fill this out. As I. When you said that, I thought that's crazy. But then I thought, oh, peaked, not over peaked.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

It may have peaked then.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. And he says that his prediction actually seems pretty good in retrospect. Wokeism is hardly gone, but it does seem to have peaked in 2022 or so. President Trump has been reelected. Republicans hold a trifecta in government. Universities have retreated from cancel culture and DEI corpor Twitter.

[Jack Armstrong]

Corporations are clearly scared off getting involved in a lot of these things now.

[Joe Getty]

Right, exactly. The media in general have moved right, from, you know, communism, but. And Chris Rufo has done his great work and, you know, he name checks a bunch of stuff and I think some of it is right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Some of it was just self preservation or, I mean, people saw what happened with Nike and Bud Light, for instance, and thought, oh, we ain't going there.

[Joe Getty]

Well, and more and more people found the courage to say, this is effing stupid. And these moral arguments that these people are making are phony and they're obviously just trying to capture institutions and take them over. So, yeah, he's right. But I always think about the Chris

[Jack Armstrong]

Rock bit about corporations getting involved in this stuff and Lululemon signs. We don't discriminate. You discriminate against the poor.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, that was great. But his question is, if Wokeism is dwindled, what has replaced it? And he says, and the reason we played those pro murder. If I don't like your politics or policies, gals, is that what Tyler Cowen says is he's afraid we're moving into an era of a culture of anger and resentment and physical action more and more, and that it's no longer about capturing the institutions because that's kind of peaked and gone away. And now the hardcore left is actually shooting people.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, so we might have been better off with the previous thing then, huh?

[Joe Getty]

Well, no, you had to stamp that out because it was absolutely poisonous and it was trying to get the people who are now murdering into power. And thank God people woke up before, you know, all of our institutions were captured.

[Jack Armstrong]

But.

[Joe Getty]

But he mentions the assassination of Charlie Kirk, Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, several attempts on the life of President Trump, and he actually ties it to, like Bernie Sanders trying to stamp out progress in AI, which, as troubling as it is, we can't let China have it. The ideology of third worldism is on the rise. It takes the form of anti Semitic demonstrations and concrete violent actions on individual Jews or group of Jews who appear in predictable locations, such as going to and from synagogues or in Jewish neighborhoods. Such attacks have risen steadily and that sort of thing and then he actually includes, like the idiotic billionaire tax that even left wingers have rejected and they've given up wealth taxes in Europe and stuff like that, probably passing in California. And he thinks that it's going to. And I'm not sure this is the right framework, but he thinks that the older wokeism reflected stronger female influences with its use of collective social pressures and its obsession with in groups and out groups and the rest of it. And this is turning more masculine and more face punchy.

[Jack Armstrong]

So that fits in with the. I had my. One of the most aggressive I hate you because you drive a Tesla cybertruck instances yesterday, Right?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And decided, I'm gonna start carrying some sort of protection. I'm gonna start carrying a burner. We do. We do ads. We endorse burna. And we did years ago and we do now. And I own one. They look exactly like a gun, but you can carry them anywhere you want.

[Joe Getty]

And it's less than lethal force.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

But they. They will protect you. I can shoot some, you know, whatever. Like, the phrases. Flip it out of my head because I'm an old person and it's like tear gas. It's like, you know, hitting with somebody with tear gas or something. Like, it's like that. And to incapacitate them if I get into some sort of beef with somebody. But I'm gonna keep it in my truck because I had a guy yesterday and I got flipped off over the weekend. I talked about that story Sunday. I got flipped off by this little blonde college chicken or really cool convertible

[Joe Getty]

her parents bought her.

[Jack Armstrong]

She is so angry at me and flipping me off. Not really worried about fighting this college girl. But there was a dude yesterday in a pickup truck. Truck. He's like, laying on his horn. I'm in the parking lot trying to find a place to park, and he's laying on his horn next to me. As I was kind of looking around like, you honking at me. I don't think I'm in your way. And he's like, effing cyber truck. F you. Cyber truck. F you. And he rolls down his window and he pulls in real fast to park. And I think, okay, here we go. I guess I'm gonna fight this guy. And then he just never gets out of his truck. And I park and I walk to mine. I keep thinking he's gonna get a. But I mean, he was angry.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Just like on him, he had the I'm gonna fight angry thing going. I thought, I gotta carry a weapon with me over the Kind of car I drive. How nuts is that? Of course you can't reason with somebody who wants to fight you, but you realize you want to get physically violent over the kind of car I drive. Does that seem crazy to you, you nut jobs? But it happens all the time. And I just, I absolutely refuse to change cars because you have to be scared to drive a certain car. That's a nuts way to live, right?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been talking about this lately. It seems to be coming up more and more that if you study political movements in the way they progress now, the, the, the youngsters that you indoctrinated have become convinced that because the other side is evil and they are bad people. And I've got another great think piece on that for later. But you're justified in committing virtually any act of violence. It's like that Dostoevsky quote I keep going back to. And that's, that's the period we seem to be in now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. And the thing would have to be, which is troubling is if. So if this guy beats me up and it makes the news how many people in the lefty town I live, especially the college kid crowd, would think, well, he had it coming. He was driving a cybertruck, so.

[Joe Getty]

Or at the very least, I'll bet he did something to deserve it. Because a person like that, I'm sure he did something terrible.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right? It'd be a lot, It'd be a lot of people that would think that.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. I do want to get into that whole question of we think they're misguided, they think we're evil, because it's unmistakable these days. But I just wanted to squeeze this in. Speaking of wokeism, Illinois Governor J.B. pritzker, who's one of the worst people in the world, his administration is offering a taxpayer funded training on microaggression for and other exclusionary behaviors that depicts white people and police officers as mosquitoes who suck the blood of people of color. I've actually seen this. That's not an overstatement. The training which Pritzker's Department of Human Rights offers to private sector, government and public participants in which the Washington Free Beacon intended is meant to, quote, increase knowledge, awareness and prevention of discrimination, harassment issues, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It defines microaggressions as the every. We know what microaggressions are. I thought that was so out of, of out of fashion. I thought most people had caught on that, oh no, they're not. Nobody's actually offended by that. Or they've taught the kids to be offended by that. But it's not offensive. It's a way to silence me by saying anything I say is a microaggression. So I have to sit quietly and be told what to do by those who've captured my institution. But it also, let's see. Oh, it includes that claiming color blindness or saying that a society should be non racial is a microaggression and it denies a person of color's racial ethnic experience.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well that's that whole Ibram x Kendi anti racist crap.

[Joe Getty]

Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So they're in at least in Illinois with the, the good graces of the governor and the money. Like in California where Jennifer, Jennifer Siebel nuisance is pushing this sort of thing in the gender bending madness to the kids. It's still being pushed hard in your, your blue states.

[Jack Armstrong]

Can you come up with an equivalent what would be the equivalent on the other side to Elon Musk? Just I'm trying to wrap my head around. I still can't imagine getting angry about what brand car somebody drives but so maybe I need to put myself in the other side. So what would be, be, would be a similar character to Elon on the left? Can you think of one?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

Maybe, maybe I don't think this is fair at all because I don't think Elon did anything bad at all.

[Eric Schmidt]

He.

[Joe Getty]

No, he just aligned with Trump.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, he tried to run an, or run an organization to cut back waste and spending in the government and, and, and you know, so. But let's go with someone I think is highly objectional. Ibram x Kendi who we just mentioned, I think he is, is flat out fraud racist. Yeah but if he owned a car company and I saw somebody driving one of his cars, I would not be, I would not yell at them, I would not honk at them, I would not want to hurt them. I might roll my eyes. Oh geez, what a fool. At the most I might roll them eyes. I probably wouldn't notice enough to care. I can't imagine getting red faced angry about it though.

[Joe Getty]

That's because you think they're a fool and not a vicious force for evil like concert like progressives have been taught to view conservatives.

[Jack Armstrong]

So nuts. Yeah, it is wrong with people.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Joe Getty]

so a handful of AI Related Stories the American rebellion against AI is gaining steam Booed commencement speakers block data centers plummeting poll numbers Fast growing industry has a faster growing crisis, according to a team of writers at the Wall Street Journal.

[Jack Armstrong]

The data centers one is an interesting thing. The real the pushback on those which is being portrayed as well, it's going to use so much water, so much energy or take up so much space. But there's all kinds of corporations that use that much water, space and everything like that. It's a fear of AI thing. I think that's driving it.

[Joe Getty]

I think you're right. If you have fear and loathing, to quote Hunter S. Thompson about something, you will look for more reasons to indict it, of course. But in one poll after another in recent weeks, respondents have overwhelmingly voiced concerns about AI, a challenge to claims by industry execs that their technology would gain popularity by improving improving people's lives. Consumers resent energy price jumps exacerbated by the spread of data centers. That's undeniable. Workers spear widespread fear, rather widespread job losses. Parents worry about AI undermining education and harming children's mental health. In recent months, a wave of anger has brought protests, swayed election results, and spurred isolated acts of violence. Yeah, people are waking up to the overwhelmingness of it, even if they're not like acutely aware of some of the specifics. They think, man, this is I think they just sense that this is an overwhelming force.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, hey, tech giants, read the room again. We're not as optimistic about this as you are.

[Joe Getty]

Right. They know what's best for us.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, exactly. That's the way they're talking to us. Sure.

[Joe Getty]

There certainly is some egomania involved, Michael. I also just think they're reading the room that they're in where everybody's invested

[Jack Armstrong]

in getting richer and richer on a daily basis.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. Dylan Patel, CEO of AI infrastructure consulting firm you've never heard of it, recently predicted there would be a large there would be large scale protests against OpenAI and Anthropic within a few months. People hate AI. AI is less popular than ICE. AI is less popular than politicians. He said on a podcast, you know, we touched on this topic.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't remember why. It was the interesting notion that AI so far hadn't been put into a Democrat or Republican thing because everything has to be on one side or the other right event most left coded or

[Joe Getty]

right Coded, as they say.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, most stuff ends up. I hate that because it's a Republican thing or I hate that because it's a Democratic thing. So Mark Halpern on his afternoon newscast had a Republican strategist and a Democratic strategist on. They're talking about the Spencer Pratt campaign for LA mayor and how well he's using the AI ads and how they've caught on and gone viral in this and that. And Mark Halpern is talking about that being the future of politics. But Democrats, lots of big Democratic campaigns and apparently in inside the upper echelons of the Democratic Party, they're going, no AI, they're. They're going to run on. None of our ads are AI. They're all human beings for a couple of different reasons. They think that that fits in with their, like, you know, their philosophy. Philosophy of the Democratic Party along with they don't want anybody losing jobs. They're all about everybody's got to keep their job forever, no matter what. You know, that's kind of a Democratic thing, no matter what.

[Joe Getty]

Advancement, technology, creative. Right. Destruction, capitalism.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, possible. And Mark Halpern's thought was that would be a terrible idea to let the Republicans run away with all these great free ads while you're still in a dude doing it the old fashioned way. But that's how it might split along the parties.

[Joe Getty]

Great reporting here from the Washington Free Beacon. Propaganda outlets controlled by China as well as Russia and Iran are promoting campaigns in the US to oppose the construction of new data centers. Beijing and Moscow want to slow down artificial intelligence innovation in the United States as much as they can, just to weaken us and to strengthen themselves.

[Jack Armstrong]

So some of the anti data center stuff you've seen, maybe a lot of it is coming out of China and Russia.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's, it's at least aided in the same way that, you know, Russian bots have, you know, in the wake of Black Lives Matter. They were hardcore pro. Black Lives Matter post and hardcore anti. They just want to set each other's throats. And this is not to say that all the concerns we've been talking about are illegitimate, but it's an interesting aspect of the modern world you remember. Well, as they put it in the Free Beacon, the campaign appears to have made inroads with at least one American lawmaker when Bernie Sanders participated. Participated in a discussion a week ago so with two Chinese academics on the existential threat of AI from the CCP's English language newspaper China Daily and its subsidiary Global Times to the name check A bunch of others. They're pushing the message within the United States that the data centers that power artificial intelligence are harmful, energy hungry, causing major spikes, blah, blah, blah.

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The more I think about it, the more I think it could if it's, if it's going to, if AI is going to end up being like every other topic where it's, you know, this party is for it, this party is against it. I could easily see the Republicans being more the for it party and the Democrats being against it for some of the reasons we already mentioned. But, but the, the people that control the Democratic Party, your master's degrees crowd, they gotta hate AI.

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Whereas a lot of your working class people who are now Republicans used to be Democrats back in the day, but are now Trump Republicans. They're the crowd that's saying it's gonna eliminate my job, universal income sounds great. I don't care what I do. I hate my job. So that might work.

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