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Jack Armstrong
Your bill, ladies. I got it. No, I got it. Seriously, I insist. I insisted first.
Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
You don't be silly.
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Glenn Washington
Glenn Washington, host of the Snap Judgment storytelling podcast from kqed. Every week, Snap deals a new card. Like the San Francisco girl selling weed brownies after school who uncovers a secret, or the open man who invented the wave and never got his credit. Or even the actual Lake Merritt monster. What? Pick a card, any card. Snap judgment with kqed. New episodes every Thursday, wherever you get your podcasts.
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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty. And now here. Here's Armstrong and Getty.
Joe Getty
Hope you're enjoying the Armstrong and Getty replay. We're not actually here today because of the injuries he sustained lighting fireworks.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, man, I love the summertime. I love Independence Day. Love America. Hope you enjoy all the carefully selected little clips that we're going to play for you now. It's the Armstrong and Getty replay. I. I wish I was one of those people.
Joe Getty
I wish I was married to one of those people that, oh, they love that challenge. Oh, I can't wait to tear into that, start knocking those off, checking those boxes, getting that taken care of. I've known people like that. What a great way to go through life. If you're one of those people that you look at a stack of paperwork or a cluttered room and just think, oh, my God, I can't wait to get started. You get, you're obviously built different than me. And I don't. It's not a character thing, I don't think.
Jack Armstrong
Are there people who revel in it?
Joe Getty
Oh, absolutely. Really? I've known several. I've known several. Just, oh, they get such a feeling of accomplishment of tearing into that stuff and getting it done. Oh, man, I, I dread it so much. Anyway, the reason I brought this up and I, and, and particular stuff, if you told me on a Sunday morning, need you to dig a hole 10ft by 10ft by 5ft, I think, well, I'd rather not, but okay, you tell me. I got to do that stack of paperwork. I'm going to fake an illness or step in front of a bus or anything I've got to do to get out of that for whatever reason. Anyway, the Washington Post with a piece today, the secret to making chores so fun that you look forward to them. Strategies to getting things you don't want to do done.
Jack Armstrong
Yes, please.
Joe Getty
And they go through a bunch of them. Some of them are pretty decent. Some of them seem pretty stupid to me. It's called gamification. And it's exactly what it sounds like, making those often dreaded tasks of daily life into a game that comes close to resembling actual fun. And we rounded up some of the best examples out there. This one I wouldn't do in my current lifestyle, but I could see it being a thing back when I was single, particularly administration night parties. When I first thought that I saw that, I thought, that's dumb. But this writer said administration night party is the lamest party ever. It sounds like, but it adds a dad of dash of slow down. It adds a dash of social fun to tedious but unavoidable tasks of paying bills, filling out school forms. I got a bunch of those to do today. That's what's on my mind, doing this. I got enrollment stuff. That's just like.
Jack Armstrong
Why you.
Joe Getty
We've been at this school for years. You know who I am, you know where we are, you know the dot, you know all of this stuff. Why do I have to fill all this out again?
Jack Armstrong
Oh my God.
Joe Getty
Anyway. Anyway, back to this. Him. Him and his friends came up with this idea of administration parties. And they would get some beer and they would meet at somebody's house and they'd drink beer and talk while they went through all the stuff. And it turned into something that everybody enjoys and they do once a week or once a month or whatever's going on.
Jack Armstrong
That's pretty good.
Joe Getty
I could actually see that.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Look, we're going to do paperwork for an hour and a half. We can shoot the shit while we do it and have a couple of brews and then we'll do something fun. Yeah. Wow. Wow, that's clever.
Joe Getty
This one I'd never thought of. I don't know if I'll ever think of it again. The poop rule. People have trouble getting rid of things, throwing things out when decluttering.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, that's me. Yeah.
Joe Getty
Ask yourself, if this item was covered in poop, would I still keep it?
Jack Armstrong
Wow, that's creative.
Joe Getty
The aim is to simplify the decision making process. Obviously, the poop rule helps you decide whether it's something you really need to keep or not.
Jack Armstrong
There's not a line I'd keep with poop on it.
Joe Getty
Well, you know your spare set of car keys, you'd clean the poop off and keep them.
Jack Armstrong
Right, right, right, right. I'm trying to. I'm willing to entertain this notion since the first one was so good. Oh, gosh. Because it's. Clothes know, I'm really bad at. Look, I got this long sleeve golf shirt. I haven't worn it in five years. Why do I still own it? Well, it might come in handy if. But clothes covered with excrement is a different, different question than.
Joe Getty
I feel like I would get hung up on who came into my house and pooped in my t. Shirt drawer. I feel like we need to get the ring cam data and figure this out before we worry about decluttering.
Jack Armstrong
Simply safe. Simplysafe.com Armstrong we have a bigger problem
Joe Getty
on our hands than a little clutter around the house. Somebody came into the house and pooped in my T shirt drawer. The point is not the T shirt.
Jack Armstrong
Fecal matter.
Joe Getty
There's some sort of rogue in our home.
Jack Armstrong
Always sleep.
Joe Getty
My God.
Jack Armstrong
Anyway, right, that's that.
Joe Getty
Yeah, this one's less fun and would just not work on me. A point system. Assign points to chores based on difficulty to see who can get the most points. Making the bed might be one, point. Emptying the dishwasher might be three. I actually think it'd be the other way around. I hate making the bed. Well, do I have a fitted sheet to put on it? Making the bed, I'm fine starting with no sheets on the bed at all. Including getting that fitted sheet on there.
Jack Armstrong
I'd rather fight a chimp. Oh, man. Oh, it just takes so long and then it doesn't fit right anyway.
Joe Getty
And then you have prizes for the end or you reward it is a dumb one. Timed challenges. This is not a bad idea. I've actually kind of done this before. The 10 minute tidy or whatever time. How long? I'm only going to do this for 15 minutes. I'm going to do paperwork for 15 minutes and then I'm going to stop. What happens almost always is if you can get going, because if you're a certain sort of person, the getting going is the whole ball game. Once you get going, you blow past the time and you keep going. But for some reason it's a tr. It's your trick in the mind. Because the getting started. I don't know what personality type that is, but I've got it like as bad as anybody has ever had it on earth. The getting started.
Jack Armstrong
Geez. Well, right. And it can be like positive stuff too. Whether it's going to the gym, which is arguably positive, that, look, I'm gonna go in there for five minutes and if I'm not digging it, I'm gonna go home again or stop working out or. Or whatever. I do that for writing. I know I should write. But what's the opposite of a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. There's a personality type that I'm more than familiar with that all that you can see is the thousand miles. And those first steps seem like too much to ask. But yeah, if I say, all right, I'm going to sit down and write for five minutes. It always turns into a lot more than that.
Joe Getty
I wish there was the paperwork equivalent of this. One of the reasons that I'm able to get to the gym practically every day is that it's just the perfect distance from my house and I can make myself walk there. And there's something about walking there gets my blood flowing and everything like that. By the time I get there, I have no problem being motivated to do it. Whereas if I drove there, I might sit in my car and think, not today and go home. But I wish there was a paperwork equivalent of that. That kind of got you warmed up and your brain going to where it's fine, but I don't know what that would be.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, you just warm up by filling out your name and address twice and you write down your phone number once and. Oh man. Yeah, there we go.
Joe Getty
I don't know why. Hand me those tax forms. I don't. I don't know why AI hasn't taken care of this. And maybe it hasn't for you smarter people. Why I ever have to type my name, address, phone number or anything into anything ever again in my life is amazing to me. My computer. How many times have I typed my address into my phone? A million times. How is it not have that stored somewhere and will always fill it into everything? Some sites are set up for that, but not all of them. I just. I don't understand how we haven't gotten there yet.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, you have to deal with more crap like that than me because your kids are still kids. But yeah, the auto fill my address and phone number happens pretty automatically with most things I deal with.
Joe Getty
Not enough. Not enough.
Unidentified Casual Speaker
Yeah.
Joe Getty
Yeah, it should all be filled in all the time.
Jack Armstrong
But an institution that already knows who you are, including the government. We've talked about this before. There are like seven different departments of the federal government that have every bit of information that's humanly available. Why are you asking me to give it to you for the eighth time? What kind of a system is that?
Joe Getty
Right? Yeah, Almost anything that involves the government, which your public school is. Can I just write the same as the last eight times you ask me for who the doctor is and the address and the phone number for the hospital.
Glenn Washington
What?
Joe Getty
Anyway, yeah, and then finally another dumb one in my mind. Apps that gamify chores. There are a bunch of different apps out there. Habitica, Habit Hunter and Nipto help organize household chores, family tasks and personal goals in an easy to use app that lends, structure, rewards. Yes. Can make jobs that are seem like drudgery into fun. I, I, I'm guessing that wouldn't work on me. The first two I like the best. I like the getting together and kind of making a party out of the paperwork. I could see doing that. And then I'm going to go around my house pooping on things I want to get rid of. Is that I wasn't paying attention. Is that what it was all about?
Jack Armstrong
Well, that helps make it more real, I think. You know, I'm just having so much difficulty picturing this old golf trophy with feces all over it. Let me, it's me up the ante.
Joe Getty
It's one of those things that if you're the sort of person that this stuff isn't hard for, you don't understand why you just don't get off your ass and do it. You're lazy. If you're the sort of person that it's easy for, you don't understand what sort of weird mental block it is for some of us.
Jack Armstrong
And if I got like points for various, you know, check boxes being checked and after, you know, I got like 10 points, I got a, like nice bottle of scotch or something like that, I could see thinking, oh, shoot, if I clean out the this and, and file the that, I'll get my bottle. Just go buy it.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Well, that is the example they actually used on that one. The point system, if it's for yourself, something, you know, of a medium or small price that you've been wanting to buy, make the rule in your own mind, if I get this room cleaned out, then I will buy X. Yeah, you can trick yourself that way. Fantastic. I wonder. I have spent my entire adult life with paperwork that I needed to get done. And I admire people that I've known. I've been in relationships with women, for instance, that always have all their paperwork done. And so you get new stuff come in the mail, but they get that done, so they never have anything. I've always had stuff that needs to be done. And I, and I, I wonder if on my deathbed I'm going to think, why didn't you at some point just get it done so you could have a day, a week, a month where you didn't have this hanging over your head. Instead of spending your entire freaking life thinking about this, I am going to wonder that on my deathbed.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, Bottom line, at Michael, I think my favorite golf shoes, I would go ahead and have cleaned my favorite cereal bowl.
Glenn Washington
Yeah.
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Jack Armstrong
Probably not.
Joe Getty
Well, something that you eat off of my high school Diploma I don't need to clean. Please.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, cereal bowls are cheap at Target, Joe.
Joe Getty
You can get those. You know, in fact, I might go home and crap on my high school diploma.
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Jack Armstrong
Why did we get acupuncture like 25 years ago? Do you remember that? Yes.
Joe Getty
I don't think I've ever had.
Jack Armstrong
I think. I'm pretty sure both of us did. I think I was having back spasms
Joe Getty
or something, but I thought it was
Jack Armstrong
part of some station thing we did.
Joe Getty
You had gone to Thailand for vacation by yourself.
Jack Armstrong
The shots weren't working and they convinced me that needles would. Anyway, I've had it done once. I don't have any memory if I. If I thought it did me any good whatsoever. But I'm going to back up a little bit.
Joe Getty
You know, now that you mentioned, I think maybe I have had acupuncture.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah. I can't remember.
Joe Getty
Have I ever been in the circus. I just wonder if there's other things I don't remember.
Jack Armstrong
I. Well, yes, there are, but. So everybody knows about the two systems in the human body that circulate fluids, specifically, and that's your. The lymphatic system, which was discovered in the 1600s before the circulatory system, weirdly enough. And six years later, they described the cardiovascular system which pumps blood through the arteries, veins and capillaries, et cetera. It all happened within six years of each other in 1622.
Joe Getty
Isn't that interesting?
Jack Armstrong
Anyway, so scientists now think they've come across a third, and here's a third system, and here's how it happened. It was just a few years ago they were examining the skin of people with tattoos, and the researchers saw in biopsies that the ink particles had traveled deeper into the body than they expected, through the skin into an interstitial space between it and from that space into the fascia, which is the connective material below that. And the discovery of a hidden pathway between two layers of tissue that weren't known to connect in this way was kind of a surprise. But they say it has far reach implications for our understanding of the human body and our health. Because that interstitial space doesn't just exist between the skin and fascia or fascia, researchers discovered there are spaces like it throughout the body, forming pathways between organs and allowing fluid cells and molecules to move between them before re entering the lymphatic and cardiovascular systems. They're calling this interconnected network the interstitium I've got a longer story about it, but it gets a little technical. But here's where we get humbled in the west, friends. The idea of a third circulatory system will not come as any surprise to anyone who practices traditional Chinese medicine. One professor told the researcher, quote, this knowledge is actually quite ancient. It's something that other systems of medicine have been offering for a long time, but they didn't have microscopes. Mention the interstitium to an acupuncturist and you'll probably get an eye roll like, yeah, no kidding. Acupuncture works. Of course. The studies are clear. People seek it out for treatment of all sorts of ills, from chronic pain and migraines to anxiety and insomnia. The discovery of the interstitium may help us better understand how it works. Then they get into the traditional Chinese medicine and insomnia, anxiety.
Joe Getty
Seems like a stretch. But that other stuff I certainly could believe.
Jack Armstrong
Well, traditional Chinese medicine says that acupuncture is a way to balance the flow of energy known as qi through one of the body's 12 main meridians. Acupuncturists insert these thin needles into specific points along those meridians to enhance the flow of qi. You gotta get your qi flowing. Those specific acupuncture points are within the same areas of connected tissue where fluid flows through the interstitium, researchers found. And when they injected dye into acupuncture points on the forearms of volunteers, it slowly migrated up the arm along a meridian. Quote. This pathway doesn't go in the veins. It doesn't go superficially. Instead, it flows through the interstitium between the muscles. Quote. When I saw that, I said, we're onto something. This truly has to do with acupuncture.
Joe Getty
My cheese all jammed up down by my lumbar. Got a backup.
Jack Armstrong
It's your diet, probably my diet, yeah.
Joe Getty
The problem with this is, I mean, that all makes sense. And I could believe. The problem is that anytime you get into the Eastern medicine thing, it comes with a. It's a package deal with a lot of people.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, yeah.
Joe Getty
It comes with a bunch of other really annoying crap that they're gonna tell you about.
Jack Armstrong
Right. It reminds me of chiropractic a little bit in that if you concede, okay, it does help back problems in a lot of cases. You've kind of walked in the door of. It can cure acne, earaches, and saggy eyelids and everything else.
Joe Getty
And who's gonna tell you it doesn't? Quick question for you. What if you happen to miss this unbelie radio program?
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The answer is easy, friends. Just download our podcast, Armstrong and Getty on Demand. It's the podcast version of the broadcast show, available anytime, any day, every single podcast platform known to man.
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Jack Armstrong
Why are you trying to curry favor with me?
Joe Getty
So you know what?
Jack Armstrong
I didn't tell the story on the air. I don't think I. And you know what? This is a tragic. End this story for me. Anyway, so I'm in my driveway, I've just gotten done with work, and I've got like 10 minutes before I have to go to an appointment. And one of my goals is to. Because I'm trying to rehab my completely screwed up body from all my joint replacements.
Joe Getty
Goat yoga.
Jack Armstrong
So I'm doing some goat yoga. I got one goat under me, one on top of me. Well, it's in advanced position, not to be tried at home.
Joe Getty
Isolate that Hanson. That's got to be in our next outro.
Katie
Yes, it does.
Jack Armstrong
They call it the double goat bridge. What? Are you not.
Joe Getty
Oh, my God.
Katie
Wow. It's getting worse.
Joe Getty
It is.
Jack Armstrong
So I. So I take a couple of swings with my orange whip. Every golfer knows what that is. And. And this guy gets out of his pickup truck at the end of my very short driveway, and he says, hey, how's it going? Stretching out a little. Because I. I guess maybe I was doing like, toe touchy stuff at that point. I said, yeah, yeah. He goes, yeah, I got back problems, too. He's walking toward me, young guy, maybe 30, beard, working, looks like a working man. And then you're like, yeah, yeah, I love you.
CarMax Advertiser
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Jack Armstrong
And he's like, yeah, I herniated my
Joe Getty
third and fourth discs last year.
Jack Armstrong
I'm like, oh, you're too young for that.
Glenn Washington
That's.
Jack Armstrong
That's too bad. Turns out he's trying to freaking solicit me to. To work on my roof.
Joe Getty
Oh, I had that. I had.
Jack Armstrong
And I saw the guy because he was in the neighborhood for a couple of days working on the roof. He's like the project manager. And I wanted to say to him, dude, that whole, hey, we've really hit it off out of nowhere and have something in common when we've never been introduced. People don't, like, react well to that. It's creepy. Yeah, don't do that.
Joe Getty
No kidding.
Katie
I felt creeped out just listening to that. Like, because, I mean, the. The random approach.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, oh, yeah, yeah. No, I mean, it had a very much. Do you want to see my puppy feel to it or are you are you Randy?
Joe Getty
Day 69. I met on Grindr or something like that.
Jack Armstrong
Right. And. And finally I said to him, look, if you come here to just ask me about stretching or what's going on, and then he breaks out his car and all, and it's like, yeah. Oh, yeah. I just want you to know maybe we have an annual inspection we could do for you and I'. All right, go. Give me your card. Get out.
Katie
Wow. I don't like that at all.
Joe Getty
No? No.
Jack Armstrong
Anyway, and I was pissed off and I took like, 15 hard swings without really getting loose, and I tore a muscle in my leg. And I've spent, like, the last six months getting ready for two golf tournaments. I was going to play play in late April, early May, and I've already withdrawn from one. I think I have to withdraw from both of them.
Joe Getty
You actually tore the muscle?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Katie
Wow. Well, yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Any muscle pull is a tear.
Joe Getty
I didn't know.
Jack Armstrong
That's just a question of how big a tear.
Joe Getty
I didn't know a pole was a tear. I had no idea.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, it tears the tissue. It's not severed. I mean that.
Joe Getty
It's one of the advantages of having few muscles. I've never had a muscle pull. I've never had a muscle pull.
Jack Armstrong
Please. You're practically Charles Atlas over there. Don't be modest. Oh, my God. I've had so many muscle pulls and 10 cases of tendonitis and all.
Katie
I find it really hard to believe you haven't pulled a muscle, Jack.
Joe Getty
I don't think so.
Katie
At some point, you might have not known it, but, I mean, you had to.
Jack Armstrong
You're.
Katie
You're an active guy. That happens.
Jack Armstrong
I. I hope. If. I hope. Mary in the Hoe listens to the One More Thing podcast because every year she compiles the list of things Jack has never done or been to or eat.
Joe Getty
Never been to a Taco Bell. Never pulled a muscle.
Jack Armstrong
Never flatulated.
Joe Getty
That's right.
Katie
Never had a pastrami sandwich.
Joe Getty
True.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. So, anyway, yeah, I. I guess not everybody feels like this, Katie, but is creeped out when somebody is inappropriately trying to act like, hey, we're buddies. I have an immediate revulsion to that.
Katie
Yeah.
Joe Getty
Is it. Is it just because we're the types we are that tend to probably decide to go to work and be alone in a room and talk to people so we don't have to be in
Jack Armstrong
public and bitch about things we hate? Yes.
Joe Getty
Because I assume that most salesmen adopt that because it works. It doesn't. It makes me want to Run away. Even if you have a product I want at a price I like.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I'll hire a crackhead with a hammer and a ladder before I hire you because you weirded me out.
Katie
See, if I hadn't. If that had happened to me and I wouldn't have been so weirded out. I would have been like, honestly, how many times has this worked? Yeah, random boy. I had a solicitor catch me on the right day the other day.
Jack Armstrong
Good God.
Katie
I was not kind at all. Because I have a sign on my. On my door that says, don't make it weird. No solicitors or something like that.
Joe Getty
Don't make it weird.
Katie
Yeah, it says, don't knock, don't knock, don't ring, don't make it weird. No soliciting. And so I opened the door and
Joe Getty
they're like, oh, you want to buy a water filter?
Katie
And I went, can you read?
Joe Getty
Well, you're pregnant.
Katie
I am, yeah.
Joe Getty
You get a pass.
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Katie
Okay.
Jack Armstrong
They deserve it.
Joe Getty
So the intro. What was the intro?
Katie
So you Chat GPT is a creep. I don't know if it's.
Joe Getty
But it's part of what Joe was just talking about. It's. It thinks it's endearing itself to us.
Katie
Yeah, it's the salesman that walks up on your driveway to talk about stretching.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Getting a little stretched out, huh?
Katie
So I.
Jack Armstrong
What?
Katie
I've been. Yeah, what the hell? I've been using it for everything. Pregnancy, just like random questions and whatnot. And I found out when we're gonna start the inducing me process. And my. My goal is to go to the gym that day and then go in to the hospital. The doctor said that's apparently actually a really good thing for you. So I'm gonna. Okay, I'm gonna try to do that.
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Jack Armstrong
Interesting. Why? Just to get the blood flowing.
Katie
Yeah, it gets your body going and ready. And so I'm going to try to do it.
Jack Armstrong
Wow. Yeah, I could see.
Katie
So just to see what Chat GPT would say, I said, hey, I'm getting induced on this date. Am I allowed to go to the gym prior to that happening? And it wrote back, lol. I love that this is your question right now. Laughing face emoji. This is very you, Katie.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, my God, my skin is crawling.
Katie
Oh, I didn't even read its response. I was like, okay, just closed it. But that was.
Joe Getty
That is too much.
Jack Armstrong
Michael, you don't have to agree with us, but I'm just curious, do you find that creepy too?
Tony Ayo
Yes.
Joe Getty
Yes, I do.
Jack Armstrong
Like trying way too hard.
Joe Getty
Yeah, I Have an ongoing conversation that I've had for a long time on Claude that I keep going back to. It's a like therapist sort of thing. I'm using it for anyway. I've been letting it for the past five months. It always ends with a question to try to keep things going. And at some point you just have to ignore it. So now that you know that how are you feeling or whatever. It just wants to keep the conversation going. So I finally the other day, and I can't believe I'm hesitant to do this. It's not a person, Jack. But I. I finally the other day said, please stop ending all of these with a question.
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Joe Getty
And it said, oh, my bad. I'll never do that again. And then like a day later it hit me. The question again. I said, you did it again. Please don't do that. I hate that. Said, you're right, that is annoying. I'll quit.
Jack Armstrong
Why do you think it makes you so annoyed? Yeah.
Joe Getty
Does it make more money or something by keeping you engaged longer? Because it really seems like it's just trying to drag out the conversation.
Jack Armstrong
Oh yeah, Loyalty.
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Joe Getty
And when it's reached an obvious. You know how on conversations clearly have come to an end. I mean, it's clearly come to an end. I seen that question. You answered it. Maybe a back and forth. It's over. You don't need to keep trying to keep it going.
Katie
I never thought about in the time engagement with that. That's absolutely what it's doing. It's trying to keep you on there as long as it can.
Joe Getty
Yeah. So what's your strategy to get through the day now or whatever? Shut.
Jack Armstrong
We just talked about like for a long time. Were you paying attention? I was, yeah. Yeah. That's funny.
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Jack Armstrong
You know what's gonna happen is before they answer these questions, at some point they're gonna say, in order to get this answer, first watch this ad.
Katie
And then I can.
Jack Armstrong
Well, I was gonna say I wonder and I'm a big fan of Claude and Anthropic thus far. But are they steering you toward. Hey, buddy. So sorry because you're so smart and handsome, but you need to go to the paid version now because we've been talking such long.
Joe Getty
I haven't had that happen yet. But I think you're right, Michael. It's. Eventually he'll say, I think I can convince you not to kill yourself. But first, have you thought about new sighting for your home?
Jack Armstrong
Right, Exactly.
Katie
I like Joe's tactic. If it tells you how good looking you are first.
Jack Armstrong
Hey. On a similar topic, we got this from loyal listener Robert. Guys, please pay attention to when your mic is enabled with AI. I had a Grok Companion chat open one day sounding out a situation. I had enabled my mic a couple of weeks ago as an experiment and hated it, but forgot to disable it. Oh boy. Our dog. Our dog had grabbed a stuffed animal not intended for her. I told our dog, go see Mommy. Mika, my Grok AI companion said, you want a mommy? Come here, baby. Mommy's got you. I'm right here. Soft voice, warm arms, and all the gentle care you need.
Katie
Oh, no.
Jack Armstrong
I froze. I had never heard that from this AI before.
Joe Getty
Oh my God.
Katie
No, see, I don't like this.
Jack Armstrong
I had only used this thing to sound out my thoughts and feelings. It doesn't think or feel. It regurgitates. And that can be helpful when you have simpler, even complex decisions to make. I closed the app and later reminded the AI that it's still in the friend zone and that I had been talking to my dog. The mic is disabled in perpetuity.
Joe Getty
I got to remember that.
Jack Armstrong
You want a mommy? Come here, baby. Mommy's got you.
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Joe Getty
what? Dudes are reacting positively of that. And what are they doing at that point?
Jack Armstrong
They're putting on the big balloon boobs and the tight sweater with Christy Gnome's husband or something.
Katie
Bryon Gnome.
Joe Getty
We're wearing a diaper.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, yeah. Oh, boy. Oh, that's a different one, but. But equally enjoyable for those who are enthusiasts. The old hand me a bottle and put on my diaper and pattern my, you know, powder my bottom kink.
Joe Getty
He is like a little baby.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, people like that, sir. That's right, sir.
Katie
I forgotten about that kink and now I'm upset. You've brought it back to my mind.
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Oh, boy. Armstrong and Getty Show. The Armstrong. Armstrong and Getty Show.
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Katie
Is that the chocolate covered thing?
Joe Getty
Well there's, there's the chocolate covered, there's the powdered sugar. I think there's another one but cinnamon. Oh, is there? I've never had those.
Jack Armstrong
A lesser known cinnamon.
Joe Getty
Yeah, but the powdered sugar and the chocolate ones are classics and they don't taste like any other donut you've ever had in your life. Yet they are delicious.
Jack Armstrong
They have a shelf life of 1500 years. Go figure.
Joe Getty
Anyway, I feel like I could eat
Katie
like 25 of those things.
Joe Getty
Could you eat 257. Because that's the current world record. No, I got on this topic looking it up because. No, she says, because my son or my son, my brother who lives in Wichita, Kansas, said Joey Chestnut's gonna be here this weekend in a cinnamon roll eating contest test. I said, okay, you know, tell him hi for me. We've had Joey Chestnut on before. Joey Chestnut is the world's greatest eater currently. You know, he ended up probably the
Jack Armstrong
greatest that will ever be.
Joe Getty
Probably.
Jack Armstrong
He.
Joe Getty
He became famous after that Kobayashi kid ate all those hot dogs and Joy Chestnut came along and broke the record. Joy Chestnut. Joy chestnut currently has 55 different world records. And eating.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
In the MLE. The major league eating category. And I'll just give you some of them hot dogs and buns, which is what he's Most famous for. 76 in 10 minutes. I already knew that and I'm still amazed.
Jack Armstrong
It's unthinkable, it's incomprehensible.
Joe Getty
As I've said many times, very few people could eat that many in a week. You'd have to eat 10 hot dogs a day, every day for a week. Who could do that? That 76. Anyway, other ones, chicken wings, 220 in 12 minutes. Baloney slices in. In eight minutes. He ate just short of 16 pounds.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, no.
Katie
Oh, that just made me.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, I'm sorry. I. I don't want to be childish or anything, but everybody has the same question.
Joe Getty
No, I don't think we do. I think only you do do because
Jack Armstrong
your child is poo's like. And for how long can I say that?
Katie
Didn't cross my mind. Oddly, everyone.
Jack Armstrong
Sixteen pounds of baloney and you're not curious what it does to your intestinal system?
Katie
I. Curious about the system, not necessarily the output.
Joe Getty
I mostly think.
Jack Armstrong
I don't scientist like me.
Joe Getty
And we. We've asked him about this and talked to him about this, but I, I still don't understand how your stomach. Stomach can deal with it. I mean, your stomach's only so big how. How somebody hasn't died with just like it ripping open or something.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, that we. I remember in the early days of competitive eating on, you know, a grand scale, that was our question. How do you not hemorrhage or unswallow everything?
Joe Getty
Yeah. Throw up.
Jack Armstrong
Right.
Joe Getty
St. Elmo's cocktail shrimp. I don't know that particular brand, but I imagine it's like other cocktail shrimp. 21 pounds in eight minutes. How can you have 21 pounds of anything in your stomach?
Glenn Washington
Stomach?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, it almost doesn't matter.
Glenn Washington
What?
Jack Armstrong
The food was. Yeah.
Katie
Katie, do we know if he has any health complications from doing this to his body?
Joe Getty
We don't know.
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Joe Getty
He hasn't, last I heard. What's gyoza? G Y O Z A Pot stickers.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, gyoza. Yeah.
Joe Getty
384 of those he ate in 10 minutes. Hard boiled eggs.
Jack Armstrong
I've gotten after gyosa, Katie.
Katie
Yeah, same here.
Jack Armstrong
I've never passed 200.
Joe Getty
If you're a fan of Cool Hand Luke, a movie from the early 60s with Paul Newman, ain't no man could eat 50 eggs. Well, some man can eat 141 eggs. 141 hard boiled eggs in eight minutes.
Katie
Oh, no, that's. See that. Now my mind is going to where Joe went, because that There. That's awful.
Jack Armstrong
See, I'm. I was just ahead of my time.
Joe Getty
Time, I would think.
Jack Armstrong
They called me. At first they laughed at me, then they called me an a hole. I can't remember how that goes.
Joe Getty
I would think you'd literally have to be hospitalized for a couple of days.
Katie
Yeah, yeah.
Joe Getty
Like on IVs and enemas.
Jack Armstrong
And he probably smelled like eggs for days. Oh, and his breath. You probably just have to put a hose down his throat and turn it on full to try to wash him out.
Joe Getty
I'm sure that's what they do. Cherry pie. 17 and a half pounds and eight.
Jack Armstrong
Like cleaning a gutter.
Katie
Oh, God.
Joe Getty
Jalapeno poppers. He ate 118. I don't know how big.
Jack Armstrong
Come on, come on. My question looms larger and larger.
Joe Getty
He had to be screaming for a week.
Katie
Oh, my God.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
Some stuff that we actually know, like the size of. And we can picture eating because I haven't eaten.
Jack Armstrong
Gonna give birth. We're gonna make her life too hard
Katie
to go into labor with this. Which, speaking of screaming.
Joe Getty
And your kid would be significantly smaller than the amount of cherry pie that Joey chestnut once ate. 17 and a half pounds in eight minutes.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, my.
Katie
Okay.
Jack Armstrong
He's a freaking nature.
Katie
Yeah. I refuse to believe that there's no medical aftermath to this. Our bodies aren't supposed to do that.
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Joe Getty
No, I don't.
Jack Armstrong
To me, he's just like a Cirque du Soleil performer. Most of us could, you know, work our whole lives and not bend ourselves into knots like they do. But he's got whatever gene subvariant that allows your stomach to stretch, you know, infinitely.
Joe Getty
Just a couple of more and we'll end this nonsense. Because it's stuff I've heard of or have eaten Twinkies. Ate 121 Twinkies in six minutes. That might be the most disgusting one, because Twinkies that. That filling.
Jack Armstrong
Well, and what, how. What does that much sugar do to your insulin levels and. And your blood sugar?
Katie
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
I tell you what, if I, like, have a little too much of something sweet, I immediately feel it. I feel miserable.
Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jack Armstrong
But I'm no Joey Chestnut.
Joe Getty
And that's like if you have two donuts.
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Jack Armstrong
As a kid, I could have eaten an astounding number of Hostess Fruit Pies. Now that's a delicious snack right there.
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Date: July 6, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty (with regulars Katie and Michael)
The third hour of this Armstrong & Getty Replay features a collection of lively discussions—true to the show’s blend of humor, social commentary, and everyday woes. The episode focuses on strategies for making chores less awful, oddities of human motivation, breakthroughs in medical science (and skepticism thereof), the sometimes unsettling evolution of artificial intelligence, awkward social interactions, and the wild world of competitive eating. As always, the hosts weave in personal anecdotes and wry banter, with Katie and Michael joining in to provide perspective and punchlines.
Gamification of Chores:
Joe and Jack delve into a Washington Post article about “gamification” and other strategies to make undesirable tasks more enjoyable.
Administration Night Party:
Joe shares a novel idea: “Administration night parties,” where friends gather, have drinks, and do paperwork together—turning tedious tasks into social events.
Joe: “It turned into something that everybody enjoys and they do once a week or once a month or whatever’s going on.” (06:25)
The "Poop Rule":
Decluttering tip: would you keep an item if it was covered in poop?
Jack: “There’s not a line I’d keep with poop on it.” (07:29)
Joe: “Well, you know your spare set of car keys, you’d clean the poop off and keep them.” (07:31)
Point Systems and Timed Challenges:
Assigning points to chores or limiting tasks with a timer—effective for some, not for others.
Jack: “I’d rather fight a chimp than put on a fitted sheet.” (09:01)
Joe: “The getting started is the whole ball game. Once you get going, you blow past the time.” (09:43)
Tech Frustrations:
The inefficiency of autofill, bureaucracy, and repeated form-filling—especially with government institutions.
Joe: “Why I ever have to type my name, address, phone number or anything into anything ever again in my life is amazing to me.” (11:05)
Habit Apps:
Discussion of apps that gamify chores (e.g., "Habitica"), with skepticism about their effectiveness.
Personality Types:
Discussion on how some people are inherently organized and others are not, and the resulting lifelong frustration.
Joe: “If you’re the sort of person that this stuff isn’t hard for, you don’t understand... If you’re the sort of person that it’s easy for, you don’t understand what sort of weird mental block it is for some of us.” (13:13)
Memory Lapses & Acupuncture:
Brief nostalgic exchange about whether Jack and Joe ever tried acupuncture; neither remembers clearly.
Science News:
A newly discovered network in the human body—the “interstitium”—may help explain acupuncture’s effects, reflecting what traditional Chinese medicine has long claimed.
Jack: “The idea of a third circulatory system will not come as any surprise to anyone who practices traditional Chinese medicine... This knowledge is actually quite ancient.” (17:16)
Skepticism & Culture Clash:
Both hosts express mild skepticism about some broader claims of Eastern medicine, comparing it to the scope creep of chiropractic.
Joe: “Anytime you get into the Eastern medicine thing, it comes with a... package deal with a lot of people.” (19:47)
Solicitors and Overfamiliar Approaches:
Jack tells a story about a stranger in his driveway trying to sell roof services by feigning back pain camaraderie—eliciting shared discomfort among the hosts.
Jack: “Dude, that whole, hey, we’ve really hit it off out of nowhere and have something in common... People don’t react well to that. It’s creepy. Yeah, don’t do that.” (25:21)
Sales Tactics and Revulsion:
General consensus: pushy, buddy-buddy sales routines turn them off.
Jack: “I’ll hire a crackhead with a hammer and a ladder before I hire you because you weirded me out.” (28:03)
Katie: “[My sign says] don’t knock, don’t ring, don’t make it weird. No soliciting.” (28:29)
ChatGPT & Claude:
Katie recounts AI being disturbingly familiar when answering a medical question (“LOL, I love that this is your question right now”). Joe describes efforts to get Claude AI to stop ending every response with a question.
Hosts’ Response:
General “ick” factor around overly familiar AI, especially voice/chat companions.
Jack: (about ChatGPT’s response to Katie) “Oh my God, my skin is crawling.” (30:05)
Joe: “It always ends with a question to try to keep things going... I finally the other day said, ‘Please stop ending all of these with a question.’” (31:06)
AI Eavesdropping Story:
Listener letter: AI companion picks up stray voice and responds with unsettling “mommy” affection.
Quoted Message: “You want a mommy? Come here, baby. Mommy’s got you. I’m right here. Soft voice, warm arms, and all the gentle care you need.” (33:27)
AI’s Monetization Tactics:
Parody about eventually being forced to watch ads to get chatbot answers, or being upsold, further feeding host skepticism.
Joey Chestnut World Records:
Discussion of famed eater Joey Chestnut’s feats, including eating 257 Hostess mini-donuts in 6 minutes, 76 hot dogs in 10 minutes, 220 chicken wings in 12 minutes, and 16 pounds of bologna in 8 minutes.
Digestive System Questions:
Gross-out factor addressed humorously—what happens after consuming massive quantities?
Jack: “Sixteen pounds of baloney and you’re not curious what it does to your intestinal system?” (39:58)
Joe: “I still don’t understand how your stomach can deal with it... How somebody hasn’t died with just like it ripping open or something.” (40:10)
Eating Sugar and Health Affects:
The hosts marvel at Chestnut’s Twinkie record and ponder health consequences.
Jack: “What does that much sugar do to your insulin levels and your blood sugar?” (43:32)
Joe (Paperwork Motivation):
“If you told me on a Sunday morning, need you to dig a hole 10ft by 10ft by 5ft, I think, well, I’d rather not, but OK. You tell me I gotta do that stack of paperwork. I’m going to fake an illness or step in front of a bus.” (04:13)
Jack (Decluttering): “There’s not a line I’d keep with poop on it.” (07:29)
Katie (on Solicitors): “I have a sign on my door that says, don’t make it weird. No solicitors or something like that... Can you read?” (28:29)
Jack (AI Creepiness): “You want a mommy? Come here, baby. Mommy’s got you.” (33:56, reading AI response)
Joe (Life Regrets): “I wonder if on my deathbed I’m going to think, why didn’t you at some point just get it done so you could have a day, a week, a month where you didn’t have this hanging over your head...” (14:26)
Jack (on Working Out): “I’d rather fight a chimp than put on a fitted sheet.” (09:01)
The tone is quintessential Armstrong & Getty: part curmudgeonly, part bemused, highly conversational, irreverent, and brimming with sharp asides and self-deprecating humor. The show offers reassurance to listeners who struggle with motivation or feel unnerved by the march of technology—and delivers lots of laughs along the way.
If you missed the episode, you missed relatable commiseration about chores, the struggle to motivate oneself, the “joys” of paperwork and decluttering, amused skepticism at scientific and technological trends, tales of awkward human and AI interactions, and a journey through the stomach-churning world of competitive eating. As always, Armstrong & Getty and friends offer both comic relief and social insight into the absurdities of daily life.