The A&G Replay Thursday Hour Two

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand — The A&G Replay: Thursday Hour Two

Podcast: Armstrong & Getty On Demand
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Episode Date: July 2, 2026
Episode Title: The A&G Replay Thursday Hour Two

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Overview

This Armstrong & Getty replay episode presents highlights from recent shows, focusing on sharp, humorous, and often provocative commentary about America’s polarized political climate, “woke” culture, failing government programs, education standards, social stressors, and viral stories that reflect the state of the nation. Expect classic Armstrong & Getty banter and critical social commentary, with plenty of memorable quotes and moments.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Politics in Everyday Life: The Yoga Studio Incident

• Context: Jack and Joe dissect a viral video from a Minneapolis yoga studio where political speech invaded a typically apolitical space ([03:39]).
• Insight: The creeping politicization of daily life, even in neutral spaces like yoga classes, is cited as a reason some residents are leaving cities like Minneapolis.
  • Jack recounts journalist Ann Bauer’s experience: her outspokenness during COVID led her to lose nearly all her clients and friends in Minneapolis ([04:04]).
  • Yoga instructors began sharing political monologues, breaching an unwritten rule of neutrality. When asked about enforcing "no politics" rules, the studio management feigned helplessness ([05:20]).
  • Quote: “I could feel the sanctity of this place sliding away, just as it had at coffee shops, barbecues, business meetings and libraries.” ([05:24], paraphrasing Ann Bauer)

2. Crime, Justice, and Ideology

• Woke Refusals to Report Crimes: Discussion of an essay by a woman who didn’t report her rape out of fear of “over-incarcerating BIPOC” individuals ([06:27]).

  • Joe responds: “No, it’s not possible ... that there is even one woman on planet Earth who got raped but didn’t report it because she thinks too many black people have been put in jail.” ([06:47])
  • The hosts critique what they see as extreme rationalizations and misplaced empathy.

• Rationalization of Robbery: Jack notes a similar phenomenon where victims show compassion for robbers out of concern for inequality ([07:31]).

  • “That is effing insane. ... You really are.” ([07:47])

3. Social Trends: Abortion and Mental Health

• British Abortion Rates: Jack cites a Free Press article reporting nearly one in three pregnancies in Britain ending in abortion, attributing this not primarily to financial stress but to women’s concerns over mental health and emotional fitness for motherhood ([08:49]).
  • Notable reasons given: “I don’t think I can handle motherhood emotionally. I’m too crazy.” ([09:08]), “Poor child deserves better than me. I could never be a parent because I overanalyze everything.” ([09:29])
  • Joe and Jack express frustration at the seeming disconnect from personal responsibility ([09:57]).

4. Women and Political Violence

• New Research: The hosts highlight a study showing women now express more support than men for political violence under certain conditions ([10:20]).
  • Jack attributes it to “punitive femininity,” a term for “the transformation of moral concern into a license to act punitively” ([12:19]).
  • Joe connects it to modern protest movements: “Just out of their minds, eyes bulging, spit flying out of their mouth, anger from females on college campuses ... we were just wrong about that all these years.” ([12:19])
  • Social media is blamed for amplifying outrage, performative aggression, and moral absolutism ([14:55]).
  • Jack: “Modern platforms reward outrage, absolutism, and performative aggression. They flatten moral complexity, elevating even glorifying condemnation.” ([14:55])

5. Government Waste: The DC Streetcar Debacle

• Reflecting on the 25-year, $200-million DC streetcar project that yielded only 2.2 miles of track and is now being replaced by buses ([16:33]).
  • Joe: “$200 million spent over that quarter-century to do basically absolutely nothing.” ([17:14])

6. The San Francisco Reparations Plan

• Sarcastic critique of the city's reparations program—including $5 million lump-sum payments, debt forgiveness, and other benefits for those who qualify ([17:30]).
  • Discusses the political reluctance to shut down impractical programs: “None of this is actually going to happen. We all know this, right?” ([19:55])
  • Lampoons eligibility criteria, joking about self-identification and the impossibility of parodying the proposal ([19:05]).

7. Education: The Erosion of Standards

• The hosts rail against the lack of academic rigor and standards in American schools and colleges, following a segment mocking college students’ cluelessness about global women’s rights ([23:17]).
  • Joe: “You’d expect that answer out of a 10-year-old, not a 20-year-old who’s made it to college.” ([24:30])
  • They discuss social promotion in schools, low standards, and the resulting ignorance of graduates ([25:23]).
  • Jack: “We’re just not a serious country.” ([25:36])

8. Toxic Family Relationships and Health

• Citing recent research, Jack and Joe discuss how “Hasslers”—difficult family members—can accelerate biological aging ([26:57]).
  • “Nearly one in three people has at least one Hassler ... biologically costly type.” ([27:21])
  • Chronic family stress is linked to higher depression, anxiety, and inflammation markers, versus stress from coworkers or acquaintances ([28:58], [33:26]).
  • Joe quips about a past relationship: “I was in a relationship for a while ... with somebody who was quite woke and it stressed me out so much, It probably cut a decade off my life.” ([30:12])
  • The hosts riff on the health risks of dysfunctional family ties versus spouses and the concept of “relational inequality” ([32:25]).

9. Hollywood’s Ozempic Craze

• Brief remarks on celebrities’ widespread use of new weight loss drugs, even among already thin stars, wondering how easy these drugs are to obtain ([35:12]).

10. Viral Tales: The Ebola Flight Story

• Joe shares a story (from a “friend of a friend” pilot) about a plane landing in the US with possible Ebola-exposed passengers, which he’s surprised didn’t make the news ([39:26]).
  • The hosts poke fun at both the response and the paranoia surrounding such events, noting publicity was allegedly suppressed by the airline ([41:22]).

11. America Through a Foreigner’s Eyes

• The hosts recount the viral travels of a German soccer fan awed by American abundance—Walmart, BUC-EE’s, gigantic stadiums—even referencing Alexis de Tocqueville ([42:12]).
  • Joe: “People in America don’t realize how much richer they are than all of the rest of the world, even advanced European countries.” ([43:41])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Politicization:
  “Yoga was the one thing I’d managed to keep separate from politics. But when I returned after they dropped Covid restrictions in 2022, the rules had changed.” — Jack Armstrong paraphrasing Ann Bauer ([04:04])

• On Reporting Crime:
  “No, it’s not possible ... that there is even one woman on planet Earth who got raped but didn’t report it because she thinks too many black people have been put in jail.” — Joe Getty ([06:47])

• On Abortion and Mental Health:
  “I feel it’s wrong to have a child when I’m so damaged. The poor child deserves better than me.” — Jack Armstrong reading survey responses ([09:29])

• On Women and Political Violence:
  “Women were significantly more likely than men to endorse such violence.” — Jack Armstrong ([12:19])

• On Government Programs:
  “$200 million spent over that quarter-century to do basically absolutely nothing.” — Joe Getty ([17:14])

• On Education:
  “You’d expect that answer out of a 10-year-old, not a 20-year-old who’s made it to college.” — Joe Getty ([24:30])

• On Toxic Relatives:
  “Having a family member in that category was associated with a biological age roughly a year older than peers of the same calendar age.” — Jack Armstrong ([27:21])

• On America’s Unique Spirit:
  “We are a funny people ... sometimes it takes a foreign observer to remind Americans of the bounties and blessings we too often take for granted.” — Jack Armstrong ([44:05])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 03:39 — The politicization of a Minneapolis yoga studio
• 06:27 — Not reporting crimes due to ideological concerns
• 08:49 — Surging abortion rates in Britain & rationales
• 10:20 — Study on women’s support for political violence
• 16:33 — $200 million DC streetcar project failure
• 17:30 — Satire of San Francisco’s reparations plan
• 23:17 — College kids’ ignorance about women’s rights in US vs Iran
• 26:57 — How toxic relatives speed up aging and harm health
• 39:26 — Behind-the-scenes story: Ebola-exposed passengers on a flight
• 42:12 — An awed German tourist’s take on American abundance

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Tone & Style

As always, Armstrong & Getty blend irreverence, sarcasm, and concern, often using humor to lampoon political excess, government waste, and cultural decline. Their style is rapid-fire yet thoughtfully constructed, relying on strong opinions supported by news, anecdotes, and biting wit.

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This episode is essential listening for fans of sharp social critique, seeking both laughs and provocative takes on current events and culture.

Transcript

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[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

For Armstrong and Getty, not actually here, but yet still providing you information.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it's a bunch of segments from the last several weeks. The wackiest, the most amusing, insightful, that sort of thing.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, this is very, very exciting. You haven't heard this stuff. Oh, could be. It could be funny, could be touching. You might cry, you might laugh.

[Jack Armstrong]

See Armstrong and Getty replay.

[Caller/Guest]

Let's go.

[Joe Getty]

Give us no, give us answers. Let's go.

[Jack Armstrong]

Say them out loud for the camera. For all my viewers.

[Joe Getty]

Let's hear it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why are you being silent?

[Tony Ayo]

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[Caller/Guest]

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[Joe Getty]

Loud and proud, baby. You want to say it?

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's it. Why we played this audio for you yesterday. An infamous video from a yoga studio in Minneapolis in which young employees were being berated for not themselves taking an outward stand about the immigration rates.

[Joe Getty]

I run a. Run a yoga studio. I know how to stretch.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right?

[Caller/Guest]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

And we touched on this piece by what's her name, Ann Bauer, who said how familiar that looked to her. She and her family fled Minneapolis because it had become that. And she said, oh, yeah, it happens all the time. And she first got in trouble during the COVID thing because like so many of us, she said the schools ought to be open. These shutdowns are wrong. And all these arbitrary rules being declared by Governor Walz in that case are wrong. She lost all of her clients for her business, every single one. And lost all of her Minnesota friends but three for saying that online. And she writes, this was just from things I wrote online. Navigating real world. Minneapolis in the post Covid era was a different beast, essentially. And she lists all sorts of really weird and off putting and hostile encounters she's had. Yoga was the one thing I'd managed to keep separate from politics. But when I returned after they dropped Covid restrictions in 2022, the RUL schools had changed. I know I'm not supposed to talk politics, said one instructor after another, but this is too important.

[Joe Getty]

Oh my God.

[Jack Armstrong]

Then they would launch into a speech on Palestine or trans athletes or immigration.

[Joe Getty]

And at the yoga class.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes.

[Joe Getty]

I mean, I just can't even believe that. And there aren't more people in the yoga classes say, whoa, whoa, whoa, I didn't come here for this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Exactly. That's the problem they demanded. And you agree, right? All of you. And everybody had to agree. She writes. I could feel the sanctity of this place sliding away, just as it had at coffee shops, barbecues, business meetings and libraries. Eventually I'd have to lie or leave. And when she asked the manager of that same branch of yoga studio, by the way, why are you not enforcing the rules against no politics in the studio? They smiled their namaste smiles gave me that side eye that said, I know what side you're on and why you're asking. And told me in kindergarten teacher voices there was nothing they could do.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, so they. They moved away. They moved to Kentucky, actually. For what it's worth. So a couple of more headlines about women in politics. Some women in politics should have never

[Joe Getty]

given them the vote.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is really not helping further the discussion. It's a piece that I was turned onto by the Free Press and read in the original form why I didn't report my rape. And this woman's bottom line was because of the over incarceration of people, particularly bipods.

[Joe Getty]

No, it's not possible. It's not possible that there is even one woman on planet Earth who got raped but didn't report it because she thinks too many black people have been put in jail.

[Jack Armstrong]

I see.

[Joe Getty]

That's not possible.

[Jack Armstrong]

Can we turn Katie's microphone on, please, Michael? I'm just shaking my head in disbelief

[Joe Getty]

because I don't think it's possible either. There's no way.

[Jack Armstrong]

I read this piece and it's actually a different thing because that's some great clickbait. But she feels ambivalence about the situation she was in, what happened and how she reacted to it. And this is her post rationalization for why she didn't call.

[Joe Getty]

Now, there are people. It's not as dramatic, but there are people I've seen this who get robbed and immediately go to compassion for the person who broke into their house and stole stuff because they're so desperate, what with our inequality in this country. I mean.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that is effing insane.

[Joe Getty]

You are insane.

[Jack Armstrong]

You really are. Yeah. And then just one more thing I want to touch on, then I'll get to like. The main piece I wanted to highlight. This was in the Free Press. Why are so many British women getting abortions? And the numbers are astounding. I mean, they're higher than anything I've ever heard about abortion. It's becoming increasingly common. Reached the highest level since, you know, it was legal in 1967 11% year over year. From 2022 to 2023, the abortion rate rose from. Well, it's just a bunch of statistics, but to put it more simply, close to one in three pregnancies in Britain now end in termination. And the experts and the liberal newspapers say it's because of the cost of living crisis. But then this journalist looked into it, thought, you know, that, wait a minute, that doesn't fully explain. Poor people have been having babies. In fact, poor people have more babies, and when Britain's Britons were much poorer,

[Joe Getty]

they had more babies. Sure.

[Jack Armstrong]

So she looked into it and interviewed dozens and dozens and dozens of women. What emerged was the main answer was, I don't think I can handle motherhood emotionally. I'm too crazy. Which is really something.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. There's an animal where the female decided, I can't procreate because I'm not mentally healthy enough.

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[Jack Armstrong]

In fact, the women she interviewed, the cost of having a child did not come up, not once, even among younger or working class women.

[Joe Getty]

I've always thought that was a dodge.

[Jack Armstrong]

Instead, the reason sounded like this. And these are all quotes. My relationship with the father didn't feel stable enough. I mean, I'm not for abortion in that situation, but at least that's an answer. I didn't feel ready to become a parent. I feel it's wrong to have a child when I'm so damaged. The poor child deserves better than me. I could never be a parent because I overanalyze everything. And finally, I just think I would have irreparably effed them up.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my God.

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[Jack Armstrong]

birth control or condoms or anything?

[Joe Getty]

That's a good point.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's, it's, it's a different question. But it is.

[Joe Getty]

It is. Yeah, it's a different. So if you're so freaking crazy that you think I just, I couldn't raise a kid, I would, I would make them miserable or something. That's terrible. Why risk it? But then don't get pregnant.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Again, Katie, that's. It's a different question. But it's a, It's a good one. But, yeah, anyway, okay, so let's getting to this. I know American women have a terrifying new flirtation, and that is with political violence. This journalist writes, when we talk about political violence, we almost always assume its perpetrators are young men, which makes sense statistically because men are much more commonly arrested for violent crimes at higher rates, engage in physical aggression, etc. But at the same time, blah, blah, blah. Given all that Researchers may reasonably assume young men. Yes, you've already said that. But a recent survey by the network Contagion Research Institute at Rutgers University found that under certain conditions in the modern world, women were more likely than men to express support for political violence. In fact, the findings were so counter that they surprised even the researchers who are probably woke and haven't been observing what we've been observing. But they write, it makes sense though, when you start recognizing where these women's impulses come from. The rise of what I call punitive femininity is downstream from the toxic political culture online, a culture that is transforming the sex long viewed as more restrained and less prone to violence. So they did a survey of well over a thousand respondents asked whether the participants saw any justification for the targeted murder of President Trump or New York City Mayor Zoran Mumdani. And they recorded their answers from 0 completely unjustified to 6 highly justified. Among left of center respondents, more slightly over two thirds expressed at least some justification for the murder of Trump, which is an 11 point increase in one year over the same question. Meanwhile, 54% of right of center respondents expressed some degree of justification for assassinating Mandami. But the most unexpected result, women were significantly more likely than men to endorse such violence.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, and I think that just fits with everything we see with the just out of their minds, eyes bulging, spit flying out of their mouth, anger from females on college campuses or all the protests you see or whatever. We were just wrong about that all these years. I mean, you said surprising given the genders, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I guess, kind of. But we were just wrong all these years. And it turns out if you pay a little attention to history and you've always got that one quote you hit, hit us with. It was always the women. That's just been the history of this sort of thing, women. And it kind of makes sense from an evolutionary standpoint because they got the most to like to protect in the village.

[Jack Armstrong]

In terms of sure, the mama bear is not a myth. No, do not mess with mama. But that protective impulse and that will to violence or willingness to go to violence if you don't have any children and don't intend to have any children, where is that channeled? Women find someone they perceive as vulnerable and turn that violent impulse in that direction. So the supporters of violence in the survey aren't traditional extremists, they write, rather they seem motivated by despair, nihilism and moral confusion. Women seem uniquely at risk for infection by this mindset. Over the past decade Women, especially younger women, have become more politically and effectively polarized in their political judgments. We've seen that women have swung way, way, way left. When you see the that way, punishing someone for holding different views becomes a moral good. I think of this mindset as punitive femininity, the transformation of moral concern into a license to act punitively. Those adopting this attitude are fueled by a combination of raw anger, emotional manipulation, and exaggerated sense of moral certainty. And social media play a central role in this transformation. Modern platforms reward outrage, absolutism, and performative aggression. They flatten moral complexity, elevating even glorifying condemnation. This lens makes sense of some of the strangest corners of the Internet, such as the online reaction to Luigi Mangione. They talk about how many people treated Mangione not as a cold blooded murderer of a young father, but as a celebrity. Many explicitly sexualized him, describing him as attractive, charismatic, and even romantic. When violence is paired with attraction, it stops being judged on moral terms. Instead of asking whether an action is wrong, people start asking whether it feels meaningful, expressive, or somehow justified. And women aren't uniquely prone to this dynamic, but they do so. They do disproportionately occupy and get their news from the digital spaces where this kind of aestheticization spreads fastest.

[Joe Getty]

This ain't going away anytime soon.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, no. Social media are breaking down basic norms of restraint, particularly among women. That breakdown is showing up in groups once closely associated with more caution and care. We must stop rewarding moral outrage, especially when it means support for violence.

[Joe Getty]

The best example I have in my own life is the intense anger. I'd say it's 2/3 women, 1 third effeminate men. About my cybertruck, just unhinged again. Eyes bulging, anger at my driving a cybertruck, which is crazy to me.

[Jack Armstrong]

Militization, moral certainty, desire to punish.

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[Joe Getty]

Can you imagine working up any emotion at all over what somebody drove? Unless they ran you over with it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, and if there was some sort of I'm 100% a progressive car, I might roll my eyes and think, what a fool. But that would be the extent of my emotional rise.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's wild.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is wild. And it's crazy. Unhealthy. Where does it end? I really don't know.

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[Jack Armstrong]

The Armstrong and Getty Show.

[Joe Getty]

Stupid government programs. I guess that'll be our theme right here. It's often a theme on the Armstrong and Getty Show. You know nobody else. Not enough other places point out how your tax money is wasted. This is in Washington, D.C. this is the final week of a streetcar that they got going in 2002, so lasted about a quarter of a century. The DC streetcar's final week of service is upon us. It was born in a 2002 feasibility study. This sounds a lot like the bullet train. It's a mini version of the California bullet train. It promised a 33 mile network. After a quarter century, it never got more than 2.2 miles ever built with no fare collection. It's now being replaced by a bus that can do the same thing for basically no cost other than. I mean, because the buses already exist. $200 million spent over that quarter century to do basically absolutely nothing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Somebody got that money.

[Joe Getty]

Damn right they did. And we've been talking about the reparations in San Francisco for quite a while. And the funny thing on that is that nobody wants to be the person to shut it down because politically it would look back to look bad. To say we can't do this, we don't have the money for this, or what. Reparations in San Francisco make less sense than in Alabama. And it doesn't even really make sense.

[Jack Armstrong]

There's

[Joe Getty]

anyway, it was signed by Mayor Daniel Lurie late last year. It's supposed to correct historic ills. And the. Our friends over at Pacific Legal foundation are suing, saying it's unconstitutional. The reparations fund, which a group of city residents in the Californians for Equal Rights foundation has challenged in court. Under the reparations plan we've told you about this many times, eligible individuals could receive as much as a $5 million lump sum payment per individual annual.

[Jack Armstrong]

You are currently a slave. I could see $5 million, maybe annual

[Joe Getty]

income supplements for 250 years.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's because it's your generation to enjoy them.

[Joe Getty]

It's your generation and all the generations going forward to make up for the previous 250 years. I guess.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes.

[Joe Getty]

Forgiveness of all personal and educational debt. So any debt you've racked up in your life, whether it's just your credit card or what.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sign the car dealer.

[Joe Getty]

Guaranteed city back insurance, property tax exemptions. Exemptions and preferential treatment in city contracts. And employment.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why would you need a job? You don't need employment.

[Joe Getty]

The eligibility criteria requires applicants to be African American descendants of enslaved people or have identified as black for at least 10 years. I thought that was hilarious. So the first one. Boy, that's going to be a little difficult for me to prove that. Or I just need to be black for the last decade.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is impossible to parody this stuff

[Joe Getty]

that's the threshold for qualifying for $5 million, 250 years of payments, all of your debts wiped free, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, all right, I'm going on the record. I identify as black. I don't live in San Francis, but I don't know, maybe I'll move there. Somebody marked the calendar Tuesday, March 24, the year 2026. Joe began identifying as black and nobody

[Joe Getty]

is willing to raise their hand. Said, none of this is actually going to happen. We all know this, right? It just there's no way we'd have enough money and it couldn't get through the courts and blah blah, blah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Isn't this all just an exercise and not wanting to end it? As you pointed out, yes, it clearly is.

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[Joe Getty]

price Void in Florida, the Armstrong and Getty show who was more oppressive to their women in their countries, Iran or

[Jack Armstrong]

the Trump administration here in America?

[Joe Getty]

I, I don't really think I'm the best, like knowledgeable on the subject. So I don't really.

[Tony Ayo]

Well, I'm not a woman.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't think it's my right to say what which group, if the other group is having more or less rights, I think that's up to the people it's actually affecting. I would say they're equally as oppressive. I feel like Trump oppresses us to

[Joe Getty]

an extent because like we still have like our freedoms and stuff like that. But he's trying to get rid of them too. I mean, wasn't like up until recently, women can open their own like credit card at a certain point in the US I really don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm sorry, I don't know about Iran.

[Joe Getty]

So I think the takeaway, the way I was seeing it float around, at least in conservative circles, was, you know, woke college kids for me it was more moronic. College kids, they clearly like, just don't think about the big issues or have never been taught about them or they're just, just unaware.

[Jack Armstrong]

They're, they're and not well spoken.

[Joe Getty]

No, no, they just come off as dumb people. That.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or as children.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You'd expect that answer out of a 10 year old, not a 20 year old who's made it to college.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. I mean, even as a confession of ignorance, if they were to say that's a really interesting question, I'm afraid I haven't really studied it as opposed to,

[Joe Getty]

I don't know about things like this that we're talking about.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean they sound like little children.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Which gets to. There's practically no standard to come out of high school as a high school graduate anymore. To get from first grade to second grade to all the way through to graduate high school, there's just, you can't be held back. It doesn't matter how little you learn, they pass you along. I know this for a freaking fact and it makes me insanely angry. I could talk about this rest of the show. They have no standards and they won't even tell the parents.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

It's just, it's so maddening. And then they head off to college and college apparently is the same way. I don't have that experience with college, but apparently college is the same way. Just you can easily get A's and B's, you hardly ever go to class, you hardly have any homework, and then you graduate with a college degree. So now you're 22 with a high school diploma and a college degree and you don't know a freaking thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well. Right. And what's really interesting and unfortunate is you've got employers of all sorts across the country who say, yeah, that college diploma doesn't mean squat. These people don't know anything at. But that word is not filtered into the culture, especially the parents who are still absolutely intent on, you know, selling body and soul and mortgaging house to get kid into quote, unquote, good college. It really is insidious. It's decadent is the word. We're just not a serious country. Oh, we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about this. Unless you want to talk about that more. We can talk about anything.

[Joe Getty]

Those free speech, etc. Those college kids, you might as well use the term kids because they sound like little kids being asked a grown up question.

[Jack Armstrong]

Boy, I. That, yeah, that was the shocking part to me. I think about the. The guys I knew in. In school and girls for that matter. You wouldn't get any of that.

[Joe Getty]

Well, imagine if you did that on any topic in the 40s.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sure. Right.

[HomeServe Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I wonder what school that was at.

[Joe Getty]

Sure wasn't a middle school anyway.

[Jack Armstrong]

Most people have one. A parent who can't get through a phone call without a cutting remark. A sibling whose entire personality seems engineered to cause problems. A grown child who drains every gathering of its energy. New research suggests these relatives aren't just making life more frustrating for other family members. They may be causing you to age faster, too.

[Joe Getty]

That's funny. Have that currently, thank God, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

No, neither do I. But I know people who do in, including you might marry the most wonderful person in the world, but the crew they bring along with them might be a tad trying. So this is. This is so interesting. And I tell you what, I hate to skip to the end, but. But it may convince you that those toxic relationships that you just grit your teeth and get through, maybe you ought to save yourself and get through them less or try to spend less time. Nearly one in three people has at least one Hassler, which is what they gave a good moniker for that person in your life. Someone who regularly causes problems or makes life difficult. Family members are the most common and biologically costly type. They cause actual biologic accelerated biological aging when your family members more than coworkers, more than neighbors, or even your spouse. It's like that next tier out showed the strongest links to accelerated biological aging when they are regularly hassled, burdened, or created problems for someone in their network. Having a family member in that category category was associated with a biological age roughly a year older than peers of the same calendar age and with cells aging measurably faster.

[Joe Getty]

So is that an evolutionary thing? And we're just so concerned that the people closest to us are not on board with the tribe, what the tribe needs to do to survive.

[Jack Armstrong]

And it really was stressful. Yeah, stress tears apart the telomeres at the ends of the cells.

[Joe Getty]

I guess I can't comment on this because I don't have the situation, but I feel like, like possibly because of doing this job, I could just let it roll off me. It's not going to stress me out. It's just. All right, you're in college now and that's what you think. I'll check in with you in 10 years.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I would agree. Yeah, but I mean, like the, you know, when you're visiting them, you're there for Christmas, your Thanksgiving A phone call, whatever, you know, they're going to say something nasty and oh, there it was.

[Joe Getty]

Well, and it's all, it's all about the degree too. How much, how much, how often, how adamant.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Interestingly enough, the cliche of the henpecked spouse or whatever didn't seem to have nearly the same significant biological aging effect as the family ties. According to the study, the family ties hardest exit and loaded with most obligation parents, children and siblings may be doing the most quiet biological damage.

[Joe Getty]

You know, I can think of an example now. I. I was in a relationship for a while years ago with somebody who was quite woke and it stressed me out so much, It probably cut a decade off my life. I probably got a year to go because of, because of that relationship.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's just, let's come out with it. You great. You dated Greta Thunberg for a year. You and little Greta Squire and her around town, taking the occasional voyage, you know, bring crap to the Palestinians.

[Joe Getty]

Me and AOC were a couple for a cup of coffee and it was really tiring. That was funny.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And whenever it would come up and they'd say something like that, it was just, it was beyond like. I don't agree with that. It was just like I could feel my telomeres shortening.

[Announcer]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Non family Hasslers such as co workers or acquaintances also showed a significant association with one of the two agent clocks, but not nearly as bad as parents, siblings and children.

[Joe Getty]

Another thing, this is probably a personality trait with me more than anything else. I'm more uncomfortable for the other people in the room than I am myself, I think because I feel like I can handle this. I can just ignore your stupid opinion. But it really bothers me that these other people around here are having to hear this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here's some interesting demographic info. Hassler exposure also turns out to be unequally distributed, tracking closely with existing vulnerabilities studies. Women were more likely to report having Hasslers than men. People with more adverse childhood experiences showed higher Hassler counts in adulthood. Well, they come from a somewhat dysfunctional family that continues to be. Yeah, that's not at all surprising.

[Joe Getty]

Chicken egg thing right there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Daily smokers and those in poorer health also reported more Hasslers.

[Joe Getty]

Daily smokers. You know what's wrong with Trump?

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't suppose you've lucked into your kid's problem yet. Been too busy. Oh my God. Exactly. Your chain smoking uglier than a mud fence mother in law.

[Joe Getty]

Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh boy. Talking about one more. Is she always like this? In short, people already dealing with the most also tend to have more difficult people in their lives. A compounding effect the authors described as a form of. Oh, good Lord. Relational inequality. Please shut up.

[Announcer]

Up.

[Joe Getty]

You quit talking to me like that. I'm gonna. That little. That little hole. You talk to me through your. Your throat. I'm gonna put a marble in there.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's what I'm gonna do.

[Joe Getty]

I'm gonna shut you up.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is he still in that dead end job? Yes, mom. He finds it satisfying. He enjoys his work. It's a dead end, that's all I'm saying.

[Joe Getty]

Well, you really failed with that one, did you?

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Crusty the clown on the line. Hey. Biological aging was far from the only health. Each additional Hassler was associated with. Higher depression and anxiety scores, poorer self rated mental health and physical health, higher bmi, worse waist to hip ratio, my

[Joe Getty]

waist to hip ratio coming in for kicking.

[Jack Armstrong]

And higher rates of multiple chronic conditions occurring at the same time. Inflammation markers from the same DNA samples followed suit. Chronic social stress appears to put the body's internal alarm system on a slow burn, repeatedly triggering the release of stress hormones like cortisol and its evil cousin, adrenaline. Over time, the persistent activation feeds inflamma inflammation at the molecular level, wearing down the body across multiple systems at once. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

What is my hip to waist ratio supposed to be? I don't know, two to one?

[Jack Armstrong]

No, I don't. I don't have any idea. Varies from fellers and gals, I'd imagine.

[Joe Getty]

Never measured that. I don't have any idea where I am on that.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I tell you what it is, and I think a lot of people know this instinctively. Those dysfunctional relationships are not just unpleasant, they're wearing you down.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's interesting. Again, shortening your life.

[Jack Armstrong]

For God's sake.

[Joe Getty]

I should take this to heart because I do. See, I hear other people complain about it and maybe I don't realize how awful it is because I've never had it. Like, people talking about like, they got to go visit their mom or whatever, she's like, oh my God, can I get through this weekend? You know, and I've never had that. Thank God. But okay. There's a reason why it. People talk that way. It's actually damaging to your health.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. I know a handful of people who are lovely people who came from pretty serious dysfunction and have to stay in touch to some extent. And oh yeah, I can practically see it shortening the lifespan.

[HomeServe Advertiser]

Hands.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't think about it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And their hip, their waist ratio is

[Jack Armstrong]

all out of whack place all nutty and then you. Then what are you gonna do? Well, if you're a Hollywood star, you hit the Ozempic. Apparently Hollywood has gone wild with the weight loss drugs. You got women who are £110 gobbling the stuff down. Now they look like skeletons.

[Joe Getty]

So the doctors will give it to you. Or can you order it without a doctor at this point? I haven't looked into it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Look at your aging Hollywood stars especially. You can find a doctor will do freaking anything.

[Joe Getty]

Get Matthew Perry's doctor and you're off to the races.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or Michael Jackson's. Right?

[Joe Getty]

Speaking of awoke coming up in hour four.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'd like you to turn me into a white woman and then give me surgical anesthesia so I can sleep. Alrighty, Michael, let's get on that.

[Joe Getty]

Change me from black to white, remove my nose and give me some elephant tranquilizers.

[Caller/Guest]

Done.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm on it. When would you like to pick that up?

[Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

The Armstrong and Getty Show.

[Joe Getty]

Joe has long said anytime somebody says. What do you call that? Fof F Anytime somebody says a friend of a friend. It's. It's usually not true. It's. It's something we do because. Because if you separate it more than friend of a friend, it doesn't have any bias. Its credibility. I can tell you in this case it is literally a friend of a friend. Like I could get them on the phone, but. So this is a pilot who is flying into the United States and had this conversation the other day and I'm surprised this hasn't made the news.

[Caller/Guest]

You said emergency or medical emergency. Just verify that for me, please. Tell us altimeter 29 or 8029 or 80. And yes, it's basically a medical emergency. We were notified that we have a possible Ebola case on board. United 979. We need some information from you there. The seat numbers of the passenger or passengers. Unfortunately, we don't have any seat numbers. We were given information by ops that Customs and border control couldn't verify, but that we had a possible Ebola case on board. We're thinking that it's a family of five or six that came in from Uganda, but at this time, we don't have any seat numbers.

[Joe Getty]

So it was a medical emergency, landed, they did the whole, you know, they got ambulances there at the plane, got them off, tested them, turned it out. They didn't have Ebola. But they've been exposed to Ebola and not checked. And I'm just surprised this didn't make the news because usually we go nuts over things that we mock as nothing to worry about. This seems like a big deal, yet a family of five or six exposed to Ebola. They might have bola, might be six people on a plane for hours because it's an overseas flight who have Ebola who landed in the United States. I don't understand. And I. Apparently I'm told that the airline didn't want that on. Took that off tick tock or made him take it off tick tock and have been trying to squash the story.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, really?

[Joe Getty]

That's what I was told. I don't know that one. I can't verify.

[Jack Armstrong]

But what was the communication chain prior to the pilot, radar or radioing? Ground control was like a store just doing the beverage service. And somebody said, and then we got exposed to Ebola. And I thought, to what next? And that stewardess, like, wait, wait, what?

[Joe Getty]

Or, hey, that guy I just gave peanuts to, he appears to be bleeding from his nipples.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, again, they were symptom free in your telling of the account.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that's right. They don't actually have a.

[Jack Armstrong]

Exactly. But they were exposed to it. So they were talking to their seat mate. Oh, you're coming from Uganda.

[Joe Getty]

You're kidding.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've never been there. Oh, it's a nice place. But occasionally you get exposed to Ebola like we did this week.

[Announcer]

What?

[Joe Getty]

How did this.

[Jack Armstrong]

What?

[Joe Getty]

What?

[Jack Armstrong]

What happened?

[Joe Getty]

Hey, I think the woman in 13e is sloughing off her skin. I don't know. That's right. I forgot again, they don't have the

[Jack Armstrong]

Ebola as you yourself state. They were symptom free. Speaking of foreigners coming to the United States, have you followed Freddie the viral German soccer fan. He was the guy we quoted the other day who he's making his way around America, mostly in the Southeast so far, and he ate a chicken sandwich for breakfast at a Walmart near Chattanooga and he tweeted about it. He bought inexpensive shoes at the store because he'd ruined his other shoes and was talking about how wonderful it was. He drove through Alabama listening to country music, stopped at the BUC EE's where he was struggling to comprehend it. Gas pumps as far as the eye can see in slow smoke. Texas barbecue inside. Or as Freddy put it with photos and three crying face emojis. Dude, lmao. This is a gas station in America. Just fabulous. And then he this is my favorite one. He was in Alabama. I love Americans, he posted after arriving. We were about to walk an hour to the stadium in the rain to save on an Uber and the receptionist at the hotel we were parked in front of decided to drive us the there. And then from inside Auburn University's 88,000 seat stadium, he posted this is the most the European mind can't comprehend this moment of my life. There's an eagle flying around the stadium.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I hear Charles C.W. cook of the National Review talks about this a lot because he's from England. He's now a US Citizen. He's from England, he said. People in America don't realize how much richer they are than all of the rest of the world, even advanced European countries. We have so much more of everything than anybody else does and we take it for granted.

[Jack Armstrong]

Richer and more imaginative and really, really funny. We are a funny people. The Washington Post points out that sometimes

[Joe Getty]

it takes Funny like a clown.

[Jack Armstrong]

How the f am I funny? Sometimes it takes a foreign observer to remind Americans of the bounties and blessings we too often take for granted. The gold standard, of course. Two centuries ago and when French nobleman Alexis de Toca toured the young republic and located its genius in ordinary institutions and its people, he stopped at a bookies the Armstrong and Getty show the Armstrong and Getty show get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand.

[Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty]

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