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Joe Getty
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Trump/Elon Discussion
Musk, who enthusiastically campaigned for Trump. The president suggesting he would have won.
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Trump/Elon Discussion
Such ingratitude.
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So that's part of it. I'm looking at the news feeds. Every outlet is leading with this story. There's a couple of reasons. They are two of the most powerful men in the world arguing in a hilarious fash. They also like any sort of high school like drama about D.C. the media does, often in a way that doesn't matter to you at all. We've got breaking news, but let's hear a little more on what happened yesterday before we get to the breaking news on the the rift, the war of words escalating even further.
Trump/Elon Discussion
President Trump posting Elon was wearing thin. I asked him to leave.
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I took away his EV mandate and he just went crazy.
Jack Armstrong
And that the easiest way to save.
Trump/Elon Discussion
Money in our budget, billions and billions of dollars is to terminate Elon's governmental subsidies and contracts.
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Musk then writing time to drop the really big bomb.
Trump/Elon Discussion
Trump is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they've not been made public. Musk offered no evidence to back up.
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His accusation and nothing made public has.
Trump/Elon Discussion
Implicated Trump, who's denied any involvement in Epstein's criminal behavior.
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Yeah, that was a troll. That was just. That's when you're in an argument and you're just looking at the closest insult at hand that will hurt the Other.
Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
So.
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So I'll go with this in order. Politico reported really early this morning, breaking White House schedules. Friday call for Elon and Trump. Politico had that, like in the middle of the night. Trump and Elon are signaling a more measured tone after their recent debate over the big, beautiful bill. In an interview with Politico, Trump projected calm, saying, it's going very well, never been better. And emphasizing his strong poll numbers, which we mentioned last hour, tariffs, everything else that's going on. Poll numbers are up for Trump and a couple of your big major polls. White House aides have encouraged the president to focus on the bill's passage and avoid any escalating disagreements with Elon. A call is scheduled between Trump and Elon to discuss their views. Further. Hedge fund manager Bill Ackman urged both men to work together for the country's benefit. A sentiment Elon. A sentiment Elon echoed on X. Okay, I thought, okay, so even these two guys calm down today. They're going to talk. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay. Trump went on Dana Bash's show on cnn. We're grabbing some. You have it. Okay, here you go. And then I went back to the question about Elon Musk. Will you be able to focus on that and bury the hatchet with Elon? I'm not even thinking about Elon is how the president responded. And then he said, he's got a problem. The poor guys got a problem. And then I said, no call with Elon right now.
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No, I won't be speaking to him for a while, I guess, but I wish him well.
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So she, she didn't have him on, but he, she interviewed him or talked to him on the phone. But. So he told Politico. I mean, the way that reads is Politico talk. I heard from him and he told Politico they're going to have a phone call. Politico is reporting there was a phone call scheduled. I don't know who started that rumor. Cnn saying, you know, we just talked to him. He said, I won't be talking to Elon for a while. The New York Post is reporting that Trump is going to get rid of his red Tesla S that Elon gave him on the lawn. I don't think it was a plaid. If Elon really liked him, he'd have given the plaid. Not just the base model, but kind of hurt.
Jack Armstrong
That's the super fast one. Not literally plaid.
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Yeah, it's from the movie Spaceballs, which I've never seen, which is A very Elon thing to do. So Trump's given back the, the, the, the, the, the Tesla. And, and, and so I woke up to this just going through some of my news sources. It was all about, calm down, reconciliation and everything like that. But then I got into some of the later tweets from. From Elon on his own platform late last night. He retweeted a. The relationship between in rump Trump and Epstein is well established with a couple of links and then a video Elon with a. I don't know what that emoji is. A grimace. Oh, it's an eyebrow raised Elon with an eyebrow raised emoji at a 1992 Trump dancing with a bunch of young women at an Epstein party. So that was late last night. I don't know where any of this talk of it calming down were. Other people hoping that if they claimed it was calming down that Trump and Elon would go along with that narrative or what.
Jack Armstrong
I definitely think there were a lot of people who had that sentiment. Yeah. Including me. I've got to admit, I'm having trouble. This is a confession. This is. We used to have theme music for this or announcer saying. Straight from Joe's ticker. This is straight from my ticker. I'm having a lot of trouble enjoying this because to have.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, no. I enjoyed that thoroughly. Oh, yeah, completely. Yeah. I got to admit, I was on one level. But it is disturbing that again, we can have mercurial man child magnates running various companies. It's odd. The shareholders are probably freaked out. There are jobs and dollars at stake. But we'll all be okay. I've got to admit, I'm having trouble having fun with this because the President is so mercurial and undisciplined. I just, I don't think it's gonna lead to good things for the country.
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Jack Armstrong
So I'm having trouble enjoying it.
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I saw an historian on Mark Halpern's podcast yesterday who said that Henry Ford went to visit Woodrow Wilson in the White House and they had an argument and Woodrow Wilson kicked him out of the White House. Very similar sort of thing. And then Henry Ford turned on him hard and said all kinds of things. But I think, well, let's.
Jack Armstrong
If I recall correctly, Lyndon Baines Johnson got into it hardcore with Betty Crocker as well. Screaming match, throwing dishes. It's terrible. Terrible.
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So where's the this matters part? Can you play out how this matters as opposed to. It's just kind of interesting soap opera stuff.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Everybody's gone hardcore, all the mainstream media, into who's risky, who could lose what in this race. And, you know, in terms of dollars and, and, well, financial concerns, Elon is very, very vulnerable given the, the government policies, whether subsidies, contracts. Well, if Trump regulations, et cetera, that. If Trump decided to pull those levers, that could be enormously damaging for Elon companies and his shareholders.
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That would be huge. That would be historic. If the president, what is that called? It wouldn't be a law. It would be executive action or something like that. Was it when you, when you, a bill of attainder, when you go after one person in particular, I mean, Trump trying to hurt one person because he's mad at them.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Altering U.S. policy, U.S. expenditures, regulations, the rest of it out of butt hurtedness or a personal conflict. Yeah, I think that would be terrible. Now, all these articles I'm talking about say on the downside for Trump, Elon Musk and his wealth and his media influence and X and his millions of followers. That could make it harder in the midterms. He could primary people. It's all like political downside. I don't, I don't know how much Elon cares about some of. I don't think he cares that much about his personal, personal wealth. I don't think he does either, because it's ginormous.
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Jack Armstrong
As long as he stays in reasonably good health, he'll continue to come with up with ideas and companies and press forward.
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Well, he's got pinned at the top. Elon does of his Twitter feed, which has 221 million followers. That's a stunning number. Is it time to create a new political party in America that actually represents the 80% in the middle? Yes, 81%. No, 19%. Now that's on his own Twitter feed. Although I'll bet there's a lot of people that don't particularly dig Elon or go into his Twitter feed to see what he has to say. I would think.
Jack Armstrong
Sure. Yeah. And for the record, by the way, I've been critical of Trump in this because he is the President of the United States of America. For what it's worth, Elon has been childish and idiotic and unfocused. He ought to just focus on the debt thing. If he had just said, look, my gripe with the big beautiful bill, the, the, what do you call it? Why can't I. The disgusting part. Disgusting. The problem with the disgusting abomination is that it continues to spend US into financial oblivion. I can't back it. If he had just hung with that message.
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Jack Armstrong
But Trump went personal on Elon. Elon had to go personal with Trump. And again, it's just a big diaper blowout.
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Well, speaking of the loathsome POS bill, like a lot of the stuff that Elon has been retweeting overnight and this morning. Do any of these people sleep ever?
Jack Armstrong
Oh yeah, I know. I was thinking the same thing.
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But Elon tweeted out another like think tank guy talking about how we now pay $1.2 billion in just interest on the debt. And this is not the sort of thing that peacetime countries do. This is wartime level deficits, blah blah, blah. So he care. I think, I think he believes as a business guy this is unsustainable. Why don't we grow up and recognize that something needs to happen. He's 100% right about that.
Jack Armstrong
Right? Yeah, yeah, I got a little more.
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Elon did retweet this. It was Jesse Waters on Fox yesterday saying the media said that Musk was co president. Remember that period the media said Trump was doing favors for Elon and it's all just, it's an. That's why it's an oligarchy. Well, if you look at the big beautiful bill, there's no favors in it for Elon Musk at all.
Jack Armstrong
So, so much for that before the falling out, right? Yeah. It's as if they're lying dopes in the mainstream media.
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Elon did state the Trump tariffs will cause a recession in the second half of year and that it's a terrible idea and then retweeted somebody talking about how stupid the tariffs are. And this was late last night. Where did the. I need to go back and find. Where did the headlines come from? Elon? Reconciliation, Both of them calming down. It doesn't sound like it to me.
Jack Armstrong
Well, I think that's because every single tweet or truth or whatever the hell spawned a new round of headlines. And so there was a bit of a hey, let's lower the temperature moment and they rushed a bunch of headlines out. Then they were contradicted three minutes later. For what it's worth, Trump aide Stephen Miller backed his boss's bill on a post today on X Twitter. The reconciliation bill cuts taxes, seals the border and reforms welfare. It is not a spending bill. There is no pork. It is the campaign agenda codified. Stephen Miller claiming there's no pork in the bill. Good lord.
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Well, we got to take a break. I got some other commentary around this that we'll get to later. And I have a feeling more is going to happen while we're on the air. I mean, Trump is getting rid of the Tesla. I can see Trump out on the lawn with a sledgehammer bashing the Tesla for the cameras.
Jack Armstrong
Right, Go ahead.
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Jack Armstrong
Now you got my attention.
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Jack Armstrong
Stay here.
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Jack Armstrong
Aim to eliminate every menial, mundane and.
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Jack Armstrong
We want to eliminate that. And if it's repetitive, we want to automate that because we will never run.
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Jack Armstrong
We want them to focus on higher level tasks.
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Jack Armstrong
And reasoning and understanding complex problems.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I'm pretty familiar with the way Amazon operates in their distribution centers. That's hilarious that he would say that.
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Jack Armstrong
In a couple of months. Now go back to work and work hard and don't steal anything.
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Jack Armstrong
Very elitist. Terrible.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, it's gone from labor saving devices to thinking saving devices. Simple as that.
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Good way to look at it. We did get one text I wanted to get on. I'm with Joe. This whole, this whole feud with Elon is sad, ridiculous and beyond childish. I'm disappointed and disgusted. Disgusted by the whole thing. You and Joe can sit around and be above it all if you want. I got no other plans this weekend. I plan to enjoy it as a spectacle and laugh aloud as it continues to happen.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I wish I had the capacity to do that. I just feel like we're heading toward disaster.
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Oh, we are. I'm not claiming we aren't. Yeah, I'm just going to laugh as we head toward disaster while you're going to arch an eyebrow and contemplate it.
Jack Armstrong
And brood, brood away. Don't leave out the brooding.
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What's the other thing? Oh, I mean, I got another breaking news thing on this. I suppose we'll hit it just because it just happened. Robert Costa of the Washington Post also talked to Trump in a phone conversation just like minutes ago.
Jack Armstrong
And so high school. Both butt hurt parties are like talking to as many people as possible to try to get them on their side.
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I talked to Caitlin and she talked to. What's another name? Madison. Madison, who's the head cheerleader and she is still mad at Allison. So that's my report. It is a lot like that. In a phone conversation, President Trump told Robert Costa, the Washington Post he's moving forward with his presidency today and totally focused on policy matters, not Musk shrugged off the feud, brought up the economy, which he cast in a positive light. That's all I focus on. No mention of a phone call. I don't know where you got that political I think you pulled it out of your buttocks.
Jack Armstrong
Fascinating.
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Jack Armstrong
I think technically speaking, you. Well, anyway, you can figure out the rest. All right. All right, what do we got coming up?
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Jack Armstrong
I don't have any what does the tease ru that?
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Jack Armstrong
I will say this the aforementioned probably too often, Elon Musk had a Twitter poll asking whether Americans thought we need a new political party for the 80% in the middle. The result was an overwhelming yes. I, Jo Getty, have begun forming that political party. It is called the F y' All Akins and significant progress has been made. That's a good name, organizing the party.
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Jack Armstrong
And the y' all and and y' all get this y' all. The other y' all, the y' alls that were effing is those who profit from government and pretend they're public servants. Do we have Cut the crap. We're not falling for your scam anymore.
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Jack Armstrong
The F Y Olicans Working on it because I will end Jack an anthem.
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I will. Oh I will wear the T shirt. I will sing the anthem. So all that's on the way. Stay tuned.
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Jack Armstrong
If anybody first of all, had any doubt whatsoever as to what Steve Bannon is right. All right. Okay, so we're done with that. Yes, Jack. Jack is attempting to jab me with a sharp stick through the cage like some sort of, I don't know, cruelly displayed ape in 1910 to get me to rage in front of the people paying a dime each to see me.
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Jack Armstrong
Exactly. Exactly. As I am trying to get started our new political party, the F y' all. Because I just, you know, the. The longer I do this job, the closer I Look at Washington D.C. the. The more I have, the less I have any hope that either party's going to do what they need to do. So F y' all. The F y' all. A kin party. The People's Party. Whoops, that sounded kind of communist. Can I have a second take on that? Yeah. Anyway, so we are working very hard. The reaction to the idea of the F y' all looking party has been fantastic. And we are busily designing the T shirts. They may be available by the end of the day today. I will be wearing them proudly, immediately. And Jack, too, has pledged to do so.
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Absolutely.
Jack Armstrong
And. And I don't wear political T shirts, mostly because I talk about politics for a living. I generally avoid it in my real life unless somebody really wants to. But I will wear that T shirt. And importantly enough. And this is. This is a major step forward that would have taken weeks and many dollars effort, but now it took 20 seconds. Let's see. This is from Jared. Guys, if you're going to start a political movement, you need a catchy theme song. I hired a team of 13 people to get this put together. The first time I ever heard you say F Y. This totally isn't AI. Oh. And I've included album cover art as well, which also is not AI at all. That's Jared the actor stuntman who will soon be replaced by AI. And. And we have a couple of options. This one is entitled F yans Rise Up.
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Jack Armstrong
It's close, but. No, the. The. No. No, it doesn't work.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, it's. No, there's too much, like, dissonance in there. No, it's got to be uplifting. Uplifting. Let's try this. This one's entitled the Third Way. It's got kind of an island feel. I like that. I'm tired of the same old red team, blue team, same lies every day they promise change but nothing never moves While we keep picking sides like we.
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Jack Armstrong
See through the smoke I see through the show it's got a bit of that feeling like they run the whole flow at least we can dance While we're redesigning our government A movement for the people who know how to feed the chains of what they tell us.
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We should be f y the cans.
Jack Armstrong
We choose our way not left, not right we make our own stupid, too okay, never mind. We're still looking for an answer.
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It originally had a bit of a yay feel. Forgot to mention that Kanye did tweet out last night. Bros, please.
Jack Armstrong
No.
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Jack Armstrong
So ye, having moved on from Jew baiting and wearing clan robes, is now trying to heal the wounds of our country. Okay.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, which reminds me, at the risk of turning this very, very serious, we got another note from somebody who saw the report that the Egyptian jihadi Islamo supremacist scumbag who tried to set fire to a bunch of Jews. Yes. His attorney is making the rounds saying trying to deport the family is really reminiscent Nazi Germany.
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Jack Armstrong
No, your clients set fire to Jews.
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That's remote of Nazi. Do you know? Okay, you don't follow.
Jack Armstrong
Maybe we do need to take a second look at the First Amendment just for saying something that egregiously, horrifically stupid. Nazi Germany. So I would.
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Well, I would wear a T shirt with your party name on it because it's kind of funny. But the whole political T shirt thing, as you mentioned, I don't normally wear. I'm all for. See, I don't know what would be an example of a political T shirt that I might wear or I think is okay, but a lot of them I see They're. You're basically walking around challenging people. Are you going to say something about it? Are you going to say something about it? Or you just going to keep your mouth shut? Yeah. Who wants to do that with their lives?
Jack Armstrong
It's, I want to fight, not I want to convince. Yeah, yeah, sure, yeah. Which I get. We're all in that mood sometimes. I just. I don't think you ought to go around in that mood all the time because, you know, if you. If you drop that pretense a little bit and you actually talk to people and ask them questions, you might be able to change their mind. I would say, and I say this with great confidence, I understand. You know, it's funny. Something just popped into my head long time ago. Jack and I were talking to a radio executive and. And this was. I think we were just on one station. This is years and years and years ago. And. And we said, we're looking for a deal where you syndicate us. And he said, everybody thinks they should be syndicated. And we both sat there thinking, yeah, but we're right. Well, it's funny. This is exactly the same sort of thing. Everybody sits around thinking their political ideas are good. But I'm telling you, fiscal responsibility, protecting individual rights, protecting our borders, understanding that the United States is a force for good, not evil, those are better ideas. And so if you maybe take a little less delight in putting your thumb in a lib's eye and drinking their delicious tears, just being a little bit patient. We have truth on our side. Well, on a lot of important issues.
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Jack Armstrong
Right? Right. Yeah, I would agree. Anyway, the effort will be in favor. Of all the things I just said. And the senior boy said, not left, not right. No, that's not the idea at all. And I used to say this all the time. The great animating battle of our time is not R versus D. It's P versus G. It's people versus the government. And I'm not talking about forming some militia and drilling in the woods. I'm talking about the people recognizing that every single warning. I hope somebody's transcribing this. This could be one of my greatest hits. Every single warning the Founding Fathers gave us about how power would grow and be abused and that the people would end up serving the government instead of vice versa. All of that is coming true, and it's getting damn close to the tipping point where there's nothing we can do about it. Less power for the federal government. End of screen.
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Jack Armstrong
Sending it back to South Africa.
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Checked his papers. I only got three hours sleep last night, so I got the opportunity to go off on a rant that makes Elon and Trump seem like Adams and Jefferson. Yes, in terms of conversation. So I'm hoping for that at some point when I crack. But we do have more on the way. I hope you can stay here Armstrong.
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In New York's Adirondack Mountains were rescued recently after they allegedly called 911 to report that their friend died on the hike, but were actually on hallucinogenic mushrooms and did not have a third hiker. They also didn't have a phone, but were able to borrow one from a talking bear.
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Is that first part true?
Jack Armstrong
It sounded true.
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Really? Oh my God. Gotta dig for that story. That's fantastic.
Jack Armstrong
Wow. That's nuts. You took too many shrooms.
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Jack Armstrong
What?
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Jack Armstrong
Surely not to play quarterback.
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Be a MVP presence in the locker room or something. Maybe make sure everybody gets their coveted vaccinations. I don't know what he's doing there.
Jack Armstrong
I kind of doubt that. Oh, as long as we're talking about sports, give me. Give me a minute here, because in. In defending my love of playoff hockey, I disparaged the NBA and yesterday. And I would like to, by way of apology. Play clip 15. This is the end of game one of the NBA Finals last night.
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Jack Armstrong
Pacers with a chance to win it. Final seconds, no fouls to give Halliburton looking. Halliburton driving, pulls off, jump shot. It's good. It's good. With 3/10 of a second remaining. Timeout. OkC. Tyrese Halliburton does it again. Yeah, just. Indiana's ridiculous. They can be down 75 points and they're still in the game, upsetting Oklahoma City. In Oklahoma City. So, And I, I, I was griping about how in basketball you might as well not even watch the first three quarters and because the entire game's fourth quarter, blah, blah, blah. Whereas hockey, you know, the entire game could turn at any moment in the game. So it's very much an edge of your seat experience. But I was thinking about Indiana and comebacks, because I used to be a huge basketball fan, including college basketball. And the thing about basketball is tension builds and can subside and then builds again, and it builds and builds and builds as comebacks happen.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, exactly. And it's. I would actually like to see brain scans of basketball fans and hockey fans as the game unfolds. It's a different sort of plot in basketball, but it is very enjoyable.
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Yeah, you have to be into the plot to enjoy. It's like. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, you. I, I agree with you. So how do you pronounce the guy who runs Google? Sundar Pakai. Anyway, I listened to a long podcast with him. He was on Lex Friedman's podcast for, like, three hours yesterday talking about all kinds of different things, including AI. So I got one thing that they brought up, but first, this from someone who texted me. They were in a meeting yesterday where there was a. A University of California student there talking about how they all use AI to finish their papers and said specifically they do a rough draft, then run it through AI to polish it up because. And this is what the person said in the meeting, otherwise they would have to look things up and do multiple drafts and check the sentences were well written. And this just saves. So you do. Everybody does a rough draft, runs it through AI to do the hard part. The rough drafts, the easy part. You run it through AI to do the hard part because, you know, it would take a lot of time. And that's just what everybody does. Yeah. So that doesn't surprise me.
Jack Armstrong
No, no.
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Jack Armstrong
It's probably not great, but it's understandable.
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In a weird way, it might be preparing you for the workplace, because that's what everything's going to be, I think.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. We're watching this unfold in real time.
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Anyway, Sundar and Lex, if you've never listened to Lex Friedman's podcast, he has all these brainiacs on all the time because he's a brainiac MIT guy. And they always talk for four hours, whatever they do. P. Doom, which I've come across a couple of times. And he asked, what is your P. Doom? That is the percentage of doom. Where are you on the doom scale of this technology is going to destroy mankind? And some people are like 10%. And there's a lot of people that are at 100%.
Jack Armstrong
I'm not sure I'm going to trust Sundar Pichai's answer, but I'm curious to hear it.
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Well, what I found more most interesting is that he brought up the P. Doom around a number of other things. It is possible that AI Destroys mankind in a number of different ways, but it's also very possible, in fact likely, that it stops us from destroying ourselves in some other ways. And he used the example of like a Covid that could kill off the planet AI The P. Doom on that. On a. On a Covid. But it's got the death rate of Ebola. The P. Doom on that is 100%. But AI could figure out the vaccine or how to contain it right away in the way that human beings never could.
Jack Armstrong
Good. That's some really good spin slash logic, Sundar. He didn't get to where he is accidentally. That's a great point.
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No. And he got into the lowers the P. Doom on maybe fans.
Jack Armstrong
Well, I'm sorry, before we move on, we're helped on the COVID thing by the fact that Anthony Fauci is increasingly elderly, so he's unlikely redo his greatest hit. Sorry, back to you.
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Jack Armstrong
Sure. Yeah, whatever. Blight tax the wheat in Bulgaria. They'll come up with an antidote and.
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Maybe even a nuclear spreading. The spreading of nuclear weapons in a variety of ways of being able to keep track of that. So I thought that was kind of interesting. While it might kill us off on its own, it lowers the chances of the P Doom. The percentage of doom on a number of other things.
Jack Armstrong
I think it's safe to assume that there's already a rapper named P. Doom and that name has been copyrighted because it's really, really good. Interesting you should bring this up. I just saw that Google throwing millions and millions. What's. What's the figure? I like to give specific. And just said instead of saying a zillion billion. I think particular numbers are more interesting. Can't find it. But Google is investing many millions of dollars in movies. Hollywood movies that show AI in a more positive vein. Show the possibilities of it. How it can help people find love and happiness. That ain't no accident, brah.
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No, no.
Jack Armstrong
That's not Sundar Pichai's particular artistic tastes at work.
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Yeah, that's something, huh? There's another point. I wonder. What was that? I just. It was in my mouth. I was going to say it next and it flitted out because I'm old and I slept three hours last night. That's the other part that's.
Jack Armstrong
That's bad for you.
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AI ending the world. Is it going to Google? It'll pop back into my head at some point.
Jack Armstrong
Son of a. Okay. I already apologize for bad mouthing basketball. Oh. Oh. Oh. Next hour, a group of stories about Islamism on the march. It's funny how human beings can. Is the. Is whistle past the graveyard the correct expression they can. Or ignore the elephant in the room. This enormous challenge to modernity, to individual freedom, to Western civilization that is Islamic supremacy. Them it's move they are moving forward.
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Yeah, I want to talk about that. Yep, I remembered what it was. Sundar Reg. He says to himself when he's. When things aren't quite what he thought they would be yet on a number of things. And he says to other people, I always got to remember that whatever you're doing with AI this is the worst it will ever be. Right now it's only going to get better. Which is an interesting way to look. Look at it.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Yeah, that is.
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Jack Armstrong
But couldn't AI figure out why it isn't progressing at an exponential rate and fix it?
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Yeah, ask it and I just think it's it's interesting juxtaposition talking about AI in the future and all these complicated things while at the same time an ancient religion wants to take over the earth and make us live like it's.
Jack Armstrong
The year 700 and only one religion, only one opinion, only one thought on government will be permitted under pain of torture. Death doesn't sound great to me. I'd like to fight against it.
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Armstrong & Getty On Demand: Episode Summary – "A Big Diaper Blowout"
Release Date: June 6, 2025
Hosted by: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty
Produced by: iHeartPodcasts
In the episode titled "A Big Diaper Blowout," hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty dive deep into the tumultuous feud between former President Donald Trump and entrepreneur Elon Musk. The discussion explores the origins, implications, and potential outcomes of their public disagreements, set against the backdrop of the upcoming political landscape.
The tension between Trump and Musk intensified over disagreements surrounding governmental policies and subsidies. Trump suggested that without Musk's support, he could have secured victory in the 2024 elections, stating, "I think I would have won."04:03
Musk retorted by asserting that Trump's support was crucial for his election win, claiming, "Without me, Trump would have lost the election."04:03. This exchange marked the beginning of a public spat that has captured media attention.
The media has been abuzz with the escalating feud, often portraying it as a high-stakes drama between two of the most influential figures. Armstrong highlights the premature media narratives suggesting a possible reconciliation. However, he notes, "I got into some of the later tweets from Elon... So that was late last night. I don't know where any of this talk of it calming down were." 07:24
The conflict has significant political and economic ramifications. Armstrong discusses the potential for Trump to leverage his executive powers against Musk's businesses, stating, "If Trump decided to pull those levers, that could be enormously damaging for Elon companies and his shareholders." 10:13. This power play could reshape policy and affect numerous sectors reliant on Musk's enterprises.
Responding to the existing political turmoil, Armstrong and Getty entertain the idea of establishing a new political party aimed at representing the majority of Americans, who feel underserved by the traditional two-party system.
Armstrong introduces the concept of the "F y' All Akins" party, a name that blends frustration with a call for significant political change. He explains, "The y' alls that were effing is those who profit from government and pretend they're public servants." 25:12. The party aims to cut through political noise and address core issues like fiscal responsibility and individual rights.
The new party focuses on eliminating repetitive and menial government tasks through automation, allowing both the government and citizens to focus on more meaningful endeavors. This aligns with their broader vision of reducing governmental overreach and promoting personal freedom.
The discussion shifts to the role of Artificial Intelligence (AI) in modern society, referencing insights from Sundar Pichai, CEO of Google.
Pichai introduces the concept of "P. Doom" – the percentage chance that AI could lead to humanity's downfall. He posits that while AI poses significant risks, it also holds the potential to mitigate other existential threats. For instance, AI could vastly improve responses to pandemics or enhance food security by developing genetically modified crops.
Prolon Ad elaborates on Pichai's views, noting, "AI could figure out the vaccine or how to contain [COVID-19] right away in the way that human beings never could." 47:05. This perspective underscores the dual-edged nature of AI technology, emphasizing the need for responsible development and deployment.
Armstrong and Prolon discuss the exponential advancement of AI, with capabilities surpassing initial projections. They reflect on how AI is transitioning from labor-saving to thinking-saving devices, posing both opportunities and challenges for the future workforce.
Amidst heavy political and technological discussions, Armstrong and Getty touch upon the importance of financial literacy, especially for younger generations.
Joe Getty highlights statistics indicating that adults with financial literacy skills possess 82% more wealth than those without. This emphasizes the critical need for early financial education.
Greenlight, a debit card and money management app for families, is introduced as a tool to teach children and teens about earning, saving, and investing. Getty states, "With Greenlight, you can teach your kids financial literacy skills like earning, saving, and investing." 16:45. The platform offers features like automated allowances and real-time spending notifications, fostering responsible financial habits in a controlled environment.
The episode concludes with reflections on the current state of politics, technology, and societal challenges. Armstrong expresses concern over the ongoing feud between Trump and Musk, fearing it may lead the country towards instability. Simultaneously, the hosts remain optimistic about the potential for positive change through innovative solutions like new political movements and advancements in AI.
Donald Trump on Elon Musk's Influence:
"I think I would have won."
– Trump 04:03
Elon Musk's Retort:
"Without me, Trump would have lost the election."
– Elon Musk 04:03
Jack Armstrong on AI's Dual Nature:
"It's possible that AI destroys us, but it could also stop us from destroying ourselves in other ways."
– Jack Armstrong 47:57
Joe Getty on Financial Literacy:
"Adults with financial literacy skills have 82% more wealth than those who don't."
– Joe Getty 16:45
"A Big Diaper Blowout" offers a comprehensive exploration of high-stakes political dynamics between influential figures like Trump and Musk, the potential formation of new political entities to better represent the populace, and the transformative yet challenging role of AI in shaping our future. Coupled with insights into financial education, the episode underscores the multifaceted issues facing society today.
For those interested in understanding the intersection of politics, technology, and personal finance, this episode provides a thought-provoking and engaging listen.