A Bowl Of Soup?

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand: "A Bowl of Soup?" – August 20, 2025

Overview
This episode of Armstrong & Getty dives into several contentious and timely topics with their usual blend of incredulity, pointed commentary, and humor. The hosts focus on the United States’ unique national mindset, higher education’s relationship with authoritarian regimes (notably China), a harrowing story involving a non-English speaking truck driver and sanctuary state policies, American adoption of chatbot idioms, and a few lighter asides regarding personal news and viral stories.

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Main Discussion Topics & Key Insights

1. America’s Exceptional Mindset & Cultural Blind Spots (04:28 – 05:34)

• Joe Getty kicks off with observations about America's optimism and uncalculating approach, contrasting it with the rest of the world's more cautious or even grim worldview.
  • Quote:
    “We have been so safe and prosperous and have such a great system and such a great bill of rights...We don’t understand that the rest of the world is not nearly as carefree as we are.”
    — Joe Getty, (04:28)

2. “The China Cabinet”: U.S. Universities & Chinese Communist Party Ties (05:34 – 14:49)

• The hosts express outrage over elite American universities, especially Harvard, hosting and educating CCP elites, including those directly involved in the machinery of the Chinese Communist Party.
  • Extensive Congressional concern: U.S. lawmakers demand Harvard stop collaborations that help train CCP cadres.
  • Quote:
    “Harvard wasn’t in 1938, you know, getting Joseph Goebbels to be better at propaganda, you know, in exchange for a full ride.”
    — Joe Getty, (07:09)
• Stats underline the extent: ≈30% of Harvard students are international; the U.S. hosts 1.1 million international students, a quarter from China.
• Armstrong points out the lop-sidedness: U.S. educates future adversaries’ scientists and leaders.
  • Quote:
    “We are educating our number one global enemy for the next, you know, for the foreseeable future, China will be our number one enemy on planet Earth. And we’re educating their scientists.”
    — Jack Armstrong, (10:28)
• Discussion expands to China’s “Thousand Talents Program” and influence operations, including influencing U.S. environmental advocacy to shift dependence toward Chinese-controlled renewables.

3. AI, Language, and the Way We Talk (21:53 – 25:40)

• The hosts discuss a Washington Post article arguing that people are starting to talk like chatbots due to high AI use.
• A debate ensues over whether words like "delve" are becoming common because of ChatGPT, with the hosts skeptical.
  • Quote:
    “I don’t think I’ve picked up any sayings or words from the chat bots...I just find that impossible to believe.”
    — Jack Armstrong, (25:05)
• They clarify how chatbots generate text—not actual thought, just sophisticated prediction.
• Armstrong notes: “It’s not thinking. It’s not intelligence at all. It’s just a glorified mad lib.” (25:30)

4. Florida Truck Crash: Sanctuary State Policy and its Deadly Consequences (03:57 – 14:49; 29:35 – 40:10)

• Extended focus is given to the case of an illegal immigrant truck driver from India involved in a fatal Florida crash. Outrage centers on how sanctuary state policies enabled a non-English speaker to obtain a commercial driver’s license in multiple states.
• Details: The driver failed English assessments and could not identify basic road signs; nonetheless, California, Washington, and New Mexico issued him commercial licenses.
  • Quote:
    "You got three states that pride themselves on being up with illegals and sanctuaries…helped this guy have a commercial driver's license be behind the wheel of a giant semi truck when he can't…even identify traffic signs."
    — Jack Armstrong, (30:24)
• Florida's Attorney General vows a maximum penalty before deportation.
• The hosts link these failures to broader “sanctuary” policies they consider irrational and dangerous—comparing these to other progressive stances inviting unintended harm.
• Armstrong draws a parallel: Law-abiding citizens must meet stringent requirements, whereas illegal immigrants receive slack, making for policy absurdity.

5. Media Coverage & Political Fallout (35:39 – 38:55)

• Observations that mainstream outlets largely ignore this story, with attention mostly at Fox News and the New York Post, reflecting broader media bias and its effect on public awareness.
• Getty notes the “preference cascade”—people waking up to what they see as insanity in progressive policies are leaving the Democratic Party.

6. Personal Notes: Sailing Lessons & Seasickness Cures (40:10 – 43:31)

• Jack Armstrong shares about his upcoming sailing lessons, self-deprecatingly questioning how legitimate his "sailor" status will be after completing a four-hour class on a small man-made lake.
• The duo banter about seasickness, small victories, and the gear needed for proper “man of the sea” status.

7. Viral Story: Drunk Attorney General Assistant Gets Kicked Out (47:42 – 49:58)

• Armstrong and Getty react to viral cop-cam audio of a belligerent, drunk special assistant Attorney General in Rhode Island refusing to leave a restaurant and trying to use her legal status for immunity.
  • Hilarious moment:
    "I'm an ag. I'm an ag. Good for you. I don't give a…Let's go. We're leaving."
    — Jack Armstrong, (47:53)
• Discussion about abusing privilege, and how these stories cut across all status lines.

8. Business & Regulatory Environment in California (50:16 – 51:27)

• News that Bed Bath & Beyond is exiting California due to “over regulated, expensive and risky” conditions, with the hosts pointing to this as a warning against adopting California-like policies elsewhere.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On American Blind Spots:
  “We don’t understand that the rest of the world is not nearly as carefree as we are.”
  — Joe Getty, (04:28)

• On Harvard Training CCP Leaders:
  “Harvard wasn’t in 1938, you know, getting Joseph Goebbels to be better at propaganda.”
  — Joe Getty, (07:09)

• On Educating Chinese Scientists:
  “We are educating our number one global enemy…And we're educating their scientists.”
  — Jack Armstrong, (10:28)

• On Loopholes & Sanctuary Policy Failures:
  "You got three states…helped this guy have a commercial driver's license…when he can't…even identify traffic signs."
  — Jack Armstrong, (30:24)

• On the Law-Abiding Being Treated Worse:
  “Homeless people can do all kinds of things that you can't do...Same with…licenses...If you get caught without it, you're going to be in all kinds of trouble. But if you're illegal, everything goes.”
  — Jack Armstrong, (34:15)

• On California Regulations:
  “California has created one of the most overregulated, expensive and risky environments for businesses in America.”
  — Bed Bath & Beyond statement read by Jack Armstrong, (50:16)

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Timestamps & Segment Breakdown

• [04:28] – Americans’ unique worldview and naivete
• [05:34] – “China Cabinet”: Harvard, academia & the CCP; foreign students in U.S. universities
• [10:28] – Discussion on the scale of U.S. education and collaboration with Chinese nationals
• [13:16] – China’s influence on U.S. environmental groups and policy
• [21:53] – Are people talking like chatbots? Words like “delve” and the mechanics of AI language models
• [29:35] – Details of the Florida truck crash and sanctuary state licensing failures
• [32:25] – Ideology behind sanctuary policies and economic forces behind low-wage truck drivers
• [35:39] – Media coverage, political backlash, shifting party allegiances
• [40:10] – Sailing stories and seasickness cures
• [47:42] – Drunk assistant attorney general restaurant ejection (audio & commentary)
• [50:16] – Bed Bath & Beyond exits California, highlighting red tape and regulatory burden

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Tone & Style Notes

• The episode features Armstrong & Getty’s usual conversational, incredulous, and occasionally sardonic tone, punctuating outrage with humor and relatable asides.
• Humor is often self-deprecating or employed to underline absurdity, particularly around bureaucratic or political inconsistencies.
• The duo frequently cite mainstream coverage gaps and policy disconnects that frustrate them and, they argue, many Americans.

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Memorable Closing

• Armstrong jokes about receiving a captain’s certificate for his beginner’s sailing lessons, humorously inflating his future as a “man of the sea.”
• The show exhorts listeners not to emulate California’s business climate, adding their signature sign-off to “get the podcast” for any missed content.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This installment delivers Armstrong & Getty’s take on hot-button topics—U.S. university ties to adversary regimes, sanctuary laws’ real-world catastrophes, the creeping influence of AI idioms, and the regulatory woes of big businesses in progressive states—all seasoned with sharp barbs and comedic interludes.

Transcript

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

I am horrified at this story about the illegal immigrant who killed all those people down in Florida by making a U turn in the middle of the highway. How he ended up having a commercial driver's license because of sanctuary cities and state policies is absolutely outrageous. We'll talk more about it later this hour.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, Gabby, no, I'm going to have yet another just 9010 issue hung around his neck if he decides to run for president.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

So as a precursor to what we're about to discuss, I don't think you can understand the world really until you understand what a weird country we are. In a lot of ways. We have been so safe and prosperous and have such a great system and such a great bill of rights that we are like by far the most optimistic people on earth. And Americans are uncalculating in a way that, and this is, this is my main point, we don't understand that the rest of the world is not nearly as carefree as we are. I mean, we are let's do a little dance, make a little love, get down tonight, you know, make a little money. Everybody's fine, everybody's. Most people are nice and blah, blah, blah. The rest of the world is much more grim and calculating. And in that spirit, let's take a look inside the China Cabinet. It's my masquerading as clever name for several stories about China.

[Jack Armstrong]

China.

[Joe Getty]

There we go. Don't trust we Don't China is salty. Another good point and salty. That's right. Yes, we brought this up before, but there is a, a congressional report on out now in a demand of Harvard University that they stop educating the elites of the Chinese Communist Party and how to be more effective Communists. The elite of our universities, including Harvard, are through the Kennedy School and other places educating the, the, well, the, the elite again, the most powerful people within the most powerful bodies of the ccp. The collaboration between the Harvard Kennedy School and the Chinese Executive Leadership Academy at Pudong. That institution is controlled by the Central Organization Department, one of the most powerful bodies within the ccp. It oversees Xi Jinping thought training programs for party elites and controls placement in key Communist Party roles and high ranking members of the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences. And these people are sent to the Harvard Kennedy School as part of the Organization Department's education and training. And these Congress people are sending a letter to the, the head guy at Harvard President Alan Garber saying what are you doing? And it's a reasonable question. To cite some obvious, probably too obvious historical parallels. Harvard wasn't in 1938, you know, getting Joseph Goebbels to be better at propaganda, you know, in exchange for a full ride, you know, tuition.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't even know what to think of this.

[Joe Getty]

It's insane. Yeah, well, you know what? It's not insane. It is a hangover. A holdover from that few decades long period where we got duped into thinking China wanted to reform and it wanted to become, you know, a happy free market participant in the community of nations. But like, everybody knows that's not true now except academia.

[Jack Armstrong]

But helping Communists be better in the Communist Party, it's right there in the name Communist. We used to be really against that.

[Joe Getty]

Right. And Mike Gallagher has a piece in the Wall Street Journal's opinion section today.

[Jack Armstrong]

Which Mike Gallagher, there's like five of them.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I know. This is the former, very sane, very serious congressman from Wisconsin, Chairman of the Select Committee on the Chinese Communist Party, distinguished Fellow at the Hudson Institute. Anyway, his piece is entitled Send Harvard's Chinese Students Home. It makes no sense for the US to be educating the scientific and leadership clash of a future adversary. For decades, Republicans and Democrats agreed our universities were crown jewels of American exceptionalism and Harvard shone brightest of all. Mr. Trump, however, has an uncanny knack for exposing rotten shibboleths. In recent years have seen top universities unmasked his global far left patronage networks using research as a smokescreen to prevent scrutiny of campus hate as they aid adversaries like China. Roughly 30% of Harvard's student body is foreign. At Columbia, it's almost 40%. And America's top universities benefit from billions of dollars in government grants and tax breaks while admitting fewer Americans every year.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'd like to know what it is in my local college town because it's pretty high.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. Meta's Chief AI Officer Alexander Wang has argued that the rate of AI progress may be such that, quote, you need to prevent all of our seekers from going over to our adversaries and you need to lock down the labs. Thousands of Chinese citizens. Chinese citizens are working and studying in such labs. The U. S hosted 1.1 million international students last year. Of those, 25 came from China. More than a quarter million.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know somebody in academia who worked in a lab with Chinese citizens who were there in the lab also. And they would never talk about anything because they were worried about if he brought up anything political, they would never say anything. With the assumption from this person, I know that they were scared to say anything because it would get reported.

[Joe Getty]

Back in 2022, foreign nationals, many of them Chinese, accounted for almost 40% of science doctorates in the United States. Almost 40%. Wow, that is incredible.

[Jack Armstrong]

We are educating our number one global enemy for the next, you know, for the foreseeable future, China will be our number one enemy on planet Earth. And we're educating their scientists.

[Joe Getty]

And Beijing is aggressively cultivating American educated and American employed researchers by the Thousand Talents program. That's part of their whole of society. Everybody has to be bent on China being ascendant and squashing the US Blindly embracing academic cooperation with geopolitical rivals is absurd. Nobody suggests we should train Iranian nuclear physicists or Russian ballistics engineers. The US Wouldn't have been better off collaborating more with Nazi Germany in the 30s or with the Soviet during the Soviets during the Cold War. Why make an exception for a nation dedicated to surpassing the US in emerging technologies? Then he mentions that universities love the Chinese students because they generally pay full freight, often subsidized by the Chinese Communist Party. What the hell are we doing? And then finally this. Speaking of money, and I mentioned this once, but it is absolutely worth digging into. There is a nonprofit called the Energy Foundation China. It is based in San Francisco and according to its website, EFC has dispersed over half a billion dollars to more than 4,000 climate related projects, many of them in the U.S. well, wait a minute. Since the Chinese Communist Party controls everything, why is a Chinese Chinese? Excuse me, the Communist Party run foundation financing thousands of climate related Projects. Its CEO by the way, is based in Beijing and has a background of strong CCP affiliations. Well, here's the deal and Ted Cruz has dug into this. China has realized that a if they can shove us away from steady sources of energy, it hurts our economy as they're burning and building coal plants as fast as they can. Plus they're pushing us as hard as they can toward renewable energy. Who has cornered the market on the critical rare earth minerals, for instance, batteries, et cetera. Who has cornered the market on all that stuff in renewable energy? China. So they are financing all of these American so called environmental groups screaming for us to give up fossil fuels and embrace technologies that China controls.

[Jack Armstrong]

They must there at Communist party headquarters parties just throw back their heads in laughter sometimes at the things they're able to pull up. Hey, guess what? I bought another hundred acres next to a military base. You did? Yeah, right next to it or did.

[Joe Getty]

You claim to be. I just said who I was. Yeah, they just let you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or this. We're financing that giant rally you saw on TV the other day where they're saying, you know, down with fossil fuels. We paid for that. And then the, the hippies push for all these programs that then we sell them the stuff.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Their largest state, California has given up producing the safest, cleanest, best policies for workers oil that is produced anywhere on earth and instead it has instead outsourced it to despicable regimes that don't give a crap about the environment or their workers. That's enlightened California. And when they're not doing that, they're doubling down on technologies that we control and can get them. We can threaten to choke that stuff off and Donald Trump will let Nvidia sell. Their most advanced chips are damn near to the Chinese Communist Party because we've gotten them to buy the green energy scam. We are a stupid people or it certainly our leaders are. That's your look inside the China cabinet China.

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I don't know who that is. I just thought that was a funny headline. She's an actress of some sort. She's clarified her sexuality for anybody who was wondering. Having come out as a lesbian a year ago, she now says she could be attracted to anyone or anything.

[Joe Getty]

Any anything. A bowl of soup, a dog, a doorknob. Anyway, surely you have limits.

[Jack Armstrong]

I find headlines like that funny. Are we starting to talk like chatbots? I doubt it, but it's kind of an interesting thought. Among other things we have on the way. Stay here.

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Why is this taking so long? This thing is ancient.

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We the the jury find the defendant guilty as to all six counts of the bill of indictment. Sheriff, will you please hand this to council and pass it over to. We the jury find the defendant not guilty on all six counts. I apologize for my mispronunciation. No, that's not a mispronunciation, that's. That's declaring the opposite of the result.

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It was just one word off. You're quibbling.

[Jack Armstrong]

Meanwhile, the defendant fell over of a heart attack.

[Joe Getty]

Oh yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, I'm sorry, did I say guilty? I meant not guilty.

[Joe Getty]

What? Wow.

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Yeah.

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Rubbed me the wrong way. Yeah, I think it's the laughter of people who are horrified.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do you marry the bride? No, not a chance. I mean. I mean, yes, I do.

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Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm sorry, I misspoke.

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[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know if I'd buy this story in the Washington Post today. It's happening. People are starting to talk like. Talk like Chat GPT. Actually, I don't believe this at all. And I use Chat GPT probably more than the average person. It says here if you use Chat GPT, Claude, Gemini or other AI powered chat bots.

[Joe Getty]

So Claude. Which one's Claude? That's. It's a big one. I can't remember whose that is, but I always start. It's always on the list.

[Jack Armstrong]

I need to try that. I try. I try Chat GPT and I do grok, but I haven't done the other ones. Anyway, it says you're probably operating under the assumption that you're both speaking the same language. You input English, it outputs English. Except that's a misconception. You actually been speaking different languages. I find this fascinating. Rather than processing text like a human, the chat bot turns your prompt into an embedding. A group of numbers represented in a vector space. Kind of like coordinates on a map. But just as a map is representation of representation of territory, this embedding is a flattened representation of language. The chat bot then formulates a reply, making a word by word prediction based on how it was trained to answer past inputs. It sounds like it's thinking and talking, but it's not. So this prediction the chat. The chat bot is making draws on biased training data. The specific texts it learns from, biased reinforcement learning, the feedback it receives. Ultimately, what looks like English to you is really just, you know, trying to take human speech and make it sound real. But it's using the predictions based on all the inputs that can be flawed, which we all need to recognize, like, immediately. I think it's too late already. But the examples they give in here about how we're starting to talk like Chat GPT, which, again, I don't think is happening. Chat GPT uses the word delve at higher rates than people use when writing or speaking English, according to a study.

[Joe Getty]

And, well, we should examine, comma, further study, comma, look more into that.

[Jack Armstrong]

But now people are starting to use it more often, according to this researcher, in articles and speech, because Chat GPT used it more often. So it's pushing the way we talk more towards the way it talks. And the. The checkers say that delve has become more common in speech since Chat GPT launched. And delve is just one example of words that he uses. Do you buy that at all? I just don't buy this at all.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know. I read the same piece and it says that part of it is that the people who look over these systems that are like the. The employees of the large language model companies are often low wa letters from, like, Nigeria and Kenya, where delve is used at a higher rate than in American or British English. I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't think.

[Joe Getty]

Other examples, intricate, commendable and meticulous.

[Jack Armstrong]

But I don't think I've picked up any sayings or words from the chat bots that I just find that impossible to believe. I do think that we all need to recognize that it's all about. It predicts the next word based on all the inputs it's been getting from all these different sources. And it's not actually thinking right, but. Right. You know, especially if you're using the audio one. It sounds like a person and it calls me buddy. So.

[Joe Getty]

Well, and if it predicts the answer that I'm looking for, great. Right? All right. It's not thinking. It's not intelligence at all. It's just a glorified mad lib.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm gonna get very angry next segment, so stay tuned.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Why is this taking so long? This thing is ancient.

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[Joe Getty]

A Florida turnpike Terrifying video shows an illegal immigrant from India, a truck driver, allegedly making a reckless U turn that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Caused a crash, killing three people.

[Joe Getty]

That driver now facing potential deportation.

[Jack Armstrong]

So that story got a fair amount of attention over the weekend early in the week. But as more details come forward on this illegal who had a commercial truck driving license, it gets more outrageous. Here's another report from Fox News following the wreck, investigators with the US DOT gave Singh an English language proficiency test. According to a DOT press release, the driver failed the assessment, providing correct responses to just two of 12 verbal questions and only accurately identifying one of four highway traffic signs. Because Singh, who entered the US from Mexico in 2018, is an asylum seeker from India, the DOT says Washington state violated federal guidelines by issuing him a full term commercial driver's license in 2023, and they believe New Mexico State Police may have failed to assess his English skills during a roadside inspection. Additionally, the DOT says it's investigating whether California acted within federal guidelines when it issued Singh a limited term CDL in 2024. So you got three states that pride themselves on being up with illegals and sanctuaries and all that sort of stuff that helped this guy have a commercial driver's license be behind the wheel of a giant semi truck when he can't. Not only can he not read or speak English, but he can't even identify me. Because traffic signs are shapes and colors that you don't even need to be able to read. They're usually pictures. He couldn't identify those.

[Joe Getty]

He couldn't. He got one out of four. There are no standards.

[Jack Armstrong]

No. No. Yeah. Well, clearly. Yeah. Just pretty much anybody who could fog a mirror, who wanted to drive a semi truck could. In California, Washington, and then you could hang on to your license in New Mexico. Let's hear from the attorney general of Florida as he's been. The crash happened in Florida, so they've been looking into this guy's background.

[Joe Getty]

It's a horrific situation. California should not have provided this person the driver's license and a permit not just for a car, but to drive large scale trucks to then drive into Florida, engage in this dangerous behavior and take the lives of three others is really a trick tragedy. We're not going to deport or let this guy out of our sights until we have convicted him and ensured that he is behind bars for as long as possible, likely the rest of his life. Only then will we, will we hand him over to ICE for deportation. But he's going to serve his time. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And, you know, whatever the penalty is for killing those people the way he did is, you know, that's that part of the story. But the, the important part of the story for us obviously is what, what the hell is the ideology behind we're going to give illegals licenses to drive semi trucks without them having the skills? I mean, what is that ideology? What, what do you think you're accomplishing?

[Joe Getty]

I just think it's the sanctuary ideology, which is insane and just counter to all, you know, reasonableness. We're just going to ignore laws and let people into the country willy nilly, combined with desperate need for truckers. I think Gavin Newsom probably had, you know, various companies saying, look, we really need guys. You got to just let these people get their licenses. I got this note from Alien Anonymous.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, and then you got the whole problem of you need. We need guys at the wage we're willing to pay because there are legals we're willing to hire, which drives down wages. So you wouldn't be hiring people who can speak English and read traffic signs.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah. I wasn't defending it by any stretch, but that's an excellent point. Got this note from Alien Anonymous. Worked on the Santa Rosa, California wildfire cleanup. Talked to a bunch of truckers and these guys are hauling logs on mountain roads. And they said the young drivers frequently, they all had stories about the Dangers of the young truck drivers on these mountain roads because they're bad. And they said the young drivers frequently spoke little to no English and had limited to no training.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's crazy.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And this one, you know, unintentionally murderous jackass. In Florida.

[Jack Armstrong]

This reminds me of the, the homeless situation we talk about a lot where like homeless people can do all kinds of things that you can't do. They can, they can have an open container in the park. You can't. They can let their dogs run around off leash. You can't. You need to have your dog on leash and then show your, you know that, make sure your dog is registered or you're going to get a ticket.

[Joe Getty]

Sure.

[Jack Armstrong]

And it's the same with like if you're a, a citizen following the law.

[Joe Getty]

You have to do all kinds of.

[Jack Armstrong]

Things to get this license or that license. And if you get caught without it, you're going to be in all kinds of trouble. But if you're illegal, everything goes. You can do anything you want. Yeah, that's a nutty way, nutty way to craft society.

[Joe Getty]

And it's yet another example of. And we talked about this, I think it was hour two of the show. The Democratic Party is hemorrhaging voters. The New York Times with a big couple of features today on how people are leaving the Democratic Party in drove in droves. And part of that is what we've been talking about lately, the preference cascade where people are realizing, yeah, I thought all this stuff was crazy but nobody was saying anything. So I thought maybe I was the crazy one. But no, we shouldn't have people sneak into the country and driving trucks without any sort of training. That's insane. And so I think those who promote and defend these policies, which are insane, are increasingly isolated and thank goodness for it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm trying to figure out because I haven't seen this story anywhere but Fox and the New York Post. Have you?

[Joe Getty]

Not that I recall.

[Jack Armstrong]

So that's part of the problem is that sure, people who already think the sanctuary thing is ridiculous, people who watch Fox and read the New York Post, you don't need to convince them. And then the rest of the country won't hear this story because it's not convenient or will seem racist or something.

[Joe Getty]

Right. And you know, there are a couple other stories that are fairly similar. The Denver gang investigation, nine month operation targeting Trende Aragua. These guys are involved in drugs and human trafficking and murder for hire and all sorts of different stuff. And the progressive powers that be. Was it J.D. vance was talking to Martha Raditz. Was it about this apartment complex being taken over? And what'd she say? Something to the effect of, well, it's just one apartment complex taken over by a dangerous foreign gang. You got the mayor of Boston yesterday was out and proud, talking about, you know, how proud they are to be a sanctuary city, and they're not changing a damn thing. And I guess that she's got good poll numbers on that in Boston, but, man, that philosophy is. People are fleeing from it because it's nuts.

[Jack Armstrong]

How can you have truck drivers who don't speak a word of English? How does that work with in the waste stations and loading and unloading and everything else?

[Joe Getty]

You have to have people less than 50. 50. On knowing what road signs are.

[Jack Armstrong]

So Gavin Newsom's pushback was that this guy had obtained a work permit while Trump was president. Okay, well, when or where or if he got a work permit is not as important to me as how the hell did you give him a commercial driver's license when he can't read the signs?

[Joe Getty]

Well, and then the Trump administration shot back, no, we didn't. We turned him down. He got it the next year when Biden was in office. So. Nice ploy, Gabby.

[Jack Armstrong]

So you got three sanctuary states, New Mexico, California, and Washington involved in this story. That is just the most insane policy. I don't know if I can think of one that could beat that. The whole sanctuary thing is flat crazy. Of course, I, I also don't understand how our system hasn't taken care of this yet, how it hasn't reached the Supreme Court in some version where they finally shut it down and say, no, the sanctuary thing is. That's not a thing. You can't do that. Just like you can't do it with gun laws or anything else.

[Joe Getty]

Well, ending our roundup of progressive states, Oregon has just proudly announced its 37th law suit of the Trump administration this week. They've already filed 36. They added a 37th. Now it's nearly six times as many as the state filed during his first year of his initial term of 2017. Let's see. This one would challenge its threat to hold with withhold federal funds to support victims and survivors of crime from states that refused to assist with federal immigration enforcement efforts. Ah, okay. So if you're a sanctuary state, you don't get crime money.

[Jack Armstrong]

Keep. Keep riding that Democratic Party. Keep, keep fighting the good fight.

[Joe Getty]

37 lawsuits.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's.

[Joe Getty]

That's plenty.

[Jack Armstrong]

As such a frustrating story. And, you know, I don't even have A magine. The relatives of the family killed in the minivan when this guy made his illegal return. You're telling me that guy driving that great big semi truck can't read road signs? And he's here illegally and two different.

[Joe Getty]

States gave him licenses.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then when he gets caught in another state and they find out. Wait a second. You got a license? With the kind of license you got, you need to be able to read English and you can't. They didn't do anything.

[Joe Getty]

Well. And you know, not to turn everybody bitter and angry, but this, this really, it's even more insidious than it seems because the rest of us are told, but you have to follow the law and you have to pay your taxes and we will bust you or fine you or take away your business license or whatever if we find you in the slightest violation of our zillions of different rules. But these people know it's fine. They can do whatever they want. It makes people cynical and angry.

[Jack Armstrong]

Before we take a break, I finally have my sailing lessons this weekend.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, good.

[Jack Armstrong]

A phrase I never thought I would say. It is a tiny little man made lake in my neighborhood with these little tiny sailboats. And I'm probably gonna be out there with children. I don't know. I don't know who else is gonna be taking lessons. It's gonna be pretty funny though.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I'm kind of jealous though. I've never really sailed. I have a friend who's been crazy into it since he was a kid. Now his kids do it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I. I don't know that I'll be able to say that I have sailed even after I've take these lessons. I mean, I suppose I can say it, but I get a certificate. It's two hours on Saturday from noon to 2, and then two hours on Sunday from noon to 2 and then I get a certificate. And I don't know what the certificates are going to say or what qualifies.

[Joe Getty]

The state of California to get you a commercial boat captain's license.

[Jack Armstrong]

Probably. I can probably drive one of those great big tankers to China full of.

[Joe Getty]

Cargo containers or a ferry with hundreds of souls aboard around San Francisco Bay for instance.

[Jack Armstrong]

But as I've said, I mean, I haven't even taken the taking the ridiculously short four hour course on the tiny little sailboat and a man made lake yet. But I've already started shopping for sailboats. I got my plans. I mean, I'm going big, of course I am. That's the way you got to do, right? Gotta get the captain's hat. Well, you got to get the outfit. Of course I have to get the outfit. But then, you know, I'll be sailing around the world and.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, non stop to Tokyo, you know, something like that.

[Jack Armstrong]

My biggest problem with the idea of actual boating is I get seasick so damn easy at this point in my life. Motion sickness. Oh, try Dramamine or something like that.

[Joe Getty]

Boning. Go with boning.

[Jack Armstrong]

Boning is better than bonine.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it makes you less drowsy. We've been the Getty household. We've sworn by it for years and years and years. Many a whale hoach and other aquatic voyage Bonin. Yep.

[Jack Armstrong]

And you've never chundered?

[Joe Getty]

No, no. In fact, I. I took it a little late for one whale watching trip with the kids years and years ago. And we started out on some really choppy seas and I felt the nausea coming on strong and then the drug kicked in and it was like, nope, you're fine.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, wow. Yeah, I read, I read, I read a whole bunch of books about sailing around the world because I was obsessed with it for a while and, and one of the books, this father and son, they sailed around the world, just the two of them, which would be a really cool activity. But they would talk about how when they would set off from any port, it'd be several days of vomiting before they got their sea legs, as they call it. And your body adjusts to it. And then the vomiting. I can't imagine doing a couple of days of leaning over the railing, vomiting until your body adjusts. That sounds. I just can't imagine doing that.

[Joe Getty]

Trying to stay hydrated and everything.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is that what people really did prior to boning? Coming on the market?

[Joe Getty]

Probably.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's what getting your sea legs means, if you didn't know that. You just. You throw up until your body decides, okay, I guess this is what we're doing. It gives up. God, that sounds horrific. Wow. Oh, anyway, I'll let you know how it goes on Monday. I'm gonna really talk a lot about, you know, we men of the sea. You'll be hearing about that a lot.

[Joe Getty]

I'm expecting you like Churchill Rum sodomy in the lash. That's what keeps order above aboard your sailboat.

[Jack Armstrong]

My parrot's supposed to get here. I overnighted it from Amazon. My parents supposed to get here on Friday afternoon, so have that on my shoulder. That'll. That'll be a good start.

[Joe Getty]

Mail order parrots.

[Jack Armstrong]

More on the way. Stay here.

[Armstrong and Getty Promo Voice]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jacob Goldstein]

This is Jacob Goldstein from what's yous Problem? When you buy business software from lots of vendors, the costs add up and it gets complicated and confusing. Odoo solves this. It's a single company that sells a suite of enterprise apps that handles everything from accounting to inventory to sales. Odoo is all connected on a single platform in a simple and affordable way. You can save money without missing out on the features you need. Check out odoo@o d o o dot com. That's o d o o dot com.

[Joe Getty]

Ah, come on.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why is this taking so long? This thing is ancient.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Whoa. This thing moves.

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[Jack Armstrong]

You're trespassing. We gotta leave now. Unless you wanna be in the house. We're not trespassing. You haven't notified us that we're. Trust us. What I just say to you? Number one, I don't want to arrest you guys. You're important. You're not going to arrest us.

[Guest or Caller]

Number two.

[Jack Armstrong]

So let's leave. We got to go.

[Guest or Caller]

I'm an ag. I'm an ag.

[Jack Armstrong]

Good for you. I don't give a. Let's go. We're leaving.

[Guest or Caller]

Please don't put your hands on us.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm an ag. I'm an ag.

[Guest or Caller]

L. You're going to regret this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Get your hands off. What's going on there?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my gosh. That's a couple of drunk hot chicks, one of whom is a special assistant Attorney general in the state of Rhode island at a restaurant that they were asked to leave and they wouldn't and were mouthy and loud. How.

[Jack Armstrong]

How.

[Joe Getty]

How annoying. Verbally abusive.

[Jack Armstrong]

How annoying do you have to be as hot chicks to get kicked out of a restaurant because you're drunk? Pretty damn well guessing.

[Joe Getty]

And so the cops. You can hear them. Look, you gotta go, all right? No, you can't. You can't arrest me. I'm an ag. And at one point, the one chick says, I want you to turn your body cam off protocol is that you turn it off. It's a citizen request that you turn it off. Is that a thing there? And you know what's funny is a great deal is being made of her being an attorney, an ag or assistant ag or whatever she was. But it's drunk, mouthy hot chicks who don't like being told what to do. God, I'm glad. You're gonna regret this. I'm an ag.

[Jack Armstrong]

God, I'm glad I never did that. I think it's got to be in your personality though. I would never. It's just so not what I would do.

[Joe Getty]

I liked Michael. Run that again real quickly because I want to draw attention to my favorite exchange.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're trespasser. We gotta leave now. Unless you want to be. We're not trespassing. You haven't notified us that we're just. What did I just say to you? All right, go ahead.

[Joe Getty]

Turn it off. You're trespassing. You need to leave. You haven't noticed fight us that you were trespassing. What did I just say to you? Shut your pie hole, you mouthy wench.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I want to get these this story on while we're still on in Los Angeles.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, and then of course she tried to kick out the police car police car door while she was inside the.

[Jack Armstrong]

Which is a great way to prove that you were not in a sit the sort of person that needs to be arrested.

[Joe Getty]

Right. You're not the a hole in this situation.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're not out of control. I'll show you how not not out of control I am by kicking the windows out of the car. I want to get this story on for all of our California stations or the rest of the country who might ever think about being like California. Please don't. This is from the executive chairman of Bed Bath and Beyond. Put out a statement. We are not going to open or operate retail stores in California. This is from Bed Bath Beyond. They have Bed Bath Beyond. So they're going to close them or. I don't quite get that. I guess some new ones. The decision isn't about politics. It's about reality. California has created one of the most over regulated, expensive and risky environments for businesses in America. It's a system that makes it harder to employ people, harder to keep doors open and harder to deliver value to customers. The result, Higher taxes, higher fees, higher wages that many businesses simply can't sustain. And endless regulations that strangle growth. It goes on and on and on. At Bed Bath and Beyond, our responsibility is to our customers. And our shareholders. We'll no longer have stores in California.

[Joe Getty]

And lots and lots of crime. You too can have this vote. Gavin Newsom in 2028 Friends, excellent point.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you missed a segment or an hour, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty.

[Armstrong and Getty Promo Voice]

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[Joe Getty]

And I'm Travis Holloway. Welcome to the Wealth Break podcast, a.

[Jack Armstrong]

Real conversation about finance. Let's be honest, building wealth doesn't look the same for everyone. I feel like sometimes being broke is a cycle and that we might have.

[Joe Getty]

To revisit that and we're not stopping at success stories.

[Guest or Caller]

What happens when it doesn't go right? How do you cope with it?

[Jack Armstrong]

Because wealth isn't just about money, it's about creating a life where you thrive and help others do the same.

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[Joe Getty]

Ah, come on.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why is this taking so long? This thing is ancient.

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Whoa, this thing moves.

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