A Brilliant Manipulator Of Nuts

Summary

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Episode: A Brilliant Manipulator Of Nuts
Date: January 15, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

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Overview

This episode of Armstrong & Getty explores a blend of current events, social commentary, and cultural critique, focusing on the atmosphere of political protest, media personalities who thrive on controversy, advances in automation (including a robotic phlebotomist), and societal changes reflected in surprising crime trends. The hosts rely on their trademark irreverent, satirical tone, mixing analysis, humor, and skepticism in equal measure.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Minneapolis Incident & “LARPing” in Political Protest

[02:44–13:19]

• Incident Breakdown: The hosts discuss a recent police incident in Minneapolis involving protests, violence against ICE officers, and the shooting of Renee Good, a 37-year-old mother.
• Mayor’s Statement: Mayor Jacob Frey urges protestors to avoid escalating chaos and not “take the bait” (02:52).
  • Quote [02:52]: “For anyone that is taking the bait tonight, stop. That is not helpful. Go home. We cannot counter Donald Trump's chaos with our own brand of chaos.” —Mayor Jacob Frey (audio clip)
• Host Reactions:
  • Joe Getty remarks on the mayor’s 'rock star' persona and questions how far “taking the bait” goes, especially when it leads to violence (03:39).
  • The co-host critiques both sides: acknowledging the mayor’s political savvy but pointing out the reality and consequences of protestors impeding law enforcement (04:01).
• Kat Rosenfield’s Analysis:
  • The hosts read and extensively discuss Kat Rosenfield’s essay, which frames the “Drive, baby, drive!” moment as a tragic emblem of modern protest’s unreality—likening activism in 2026 to “Disney-fied,” LARP-style escapism, disconnected from the real stakes of physical confrontation.
  • Quote [08:25]:
    • “The product of a world in which activism and political conflict have become Disney-fied...has evolved today into sort of an intramural sport...it has also given the entire enterprise a distinct veneer of unreality.” —Kat Rosenfield (read by co-host)
  • They expand her point to lament that many see protest as a ‘party or a movie,’ with real danger misunderstood or ignored.
  • Quote [09:55]: “Yeah, I think that's the most interesting thing I've heard in the last week about all this stuff, because I think it's really, really true. It seems like a show on television and then you want to be part of the show...” —Joe Getty

Policing: Militarization & Perception

[11:19–12:57]

• Drawing from Kevin Williamson’s critique, the hosts debate the dangers and consequences of militarized police, especially when military gear is provided to small-town police forces.
  • Quote [10:19]: “If you dress people like the military and equip them like the military, they're going to start acting like the military.” —Co-host, quoting Kevin Williamson

Social Media & Controversial Media Figures

[13:19–21:18]

• Candace Owens, Conspiracies, and Motivated Audiences:
  • The hosts dissect Candace Owens’ latest outlandish theories suggesting Charlie Kirk was a time traveler and part of a conspiracy—a point met with both satire and exasperation (17:25–18:09).
    • Quote [17:25]: “It's also official. Candace Owens is a nut. Or a brilliant manipulator. Nuts.” —Joe Getty
  • Listeners’ Reactions: Shared texts express how many ‘followers’ of such figures are voyeurs rather than fans, likening it to watching a ‘train wreck’ (18:43).
    • Quote [18:43]: “Not every follower...are supporters. Some people follow because it's a train wreck.” —Listener feedback read by Joe Getty
  • The hosts reflect on how media personalities string people along, emphasizing that even critics can’t look away from the spectacle.
    • Quote [19:37]: “I've read enough about scientists who study this sort of thing who can tell you the formula for stringing people along. And there's a hell of a lot of money in it.” —Co-host

Automation & Technology: Robotic Blood Draws

[25:26–30:13]

• Aletta, the Robotic Phlebotomist:
  • Introduction of a new device for automated blood collection—described with both intrigue and horror for its clinical precision and potential mishaps (26:05–28:00).
  • The segment includes host anecdotes, dark humor about the reliability of robots vs. human phlebotomists, and the unsettling idea of sticking your arm into an unseen device.
  • Quote [27:48]: “Just sticking your arm in a hole and hoping for the best.” —Joe Getty
  • Quote [28:26]: “If this thing uses ultrasound and infrared and whatever to locate...a perfect vein...that sounds good to me. But if it doesn't work, it's a blank and nightmare.” —Co-host

Shifting Job Markets & Class Perceptions

[30:13–36:14]

• White Collar vs. Blue Collar Employment:
  • With layoffs and stagnation in white-collar fields, hosts discuss an article touting blue-collar careers—especially high-tech trades like mechanics, welding, and service advisors (32:00).
  • They critique the cultural stigma against manual work, blaming past policies and social messaging, and discuss how re-training and salary trajectories are changing.
  • Quote [31:46]: “The cultural part is going to be more important than the other stuff. There's just a lot of people that can't imagine their kid doing a blue collar job. It would just be a disappointment to the whole family.” —Joe Getty
  • Concerns are expressed about adaptability mid-life and the economic disruption of hyperinflation.
    • Quote [34:41]: “You talk about having to adjust to a new reality. What, all that I did my whole life is for nothing? ...That happens with hyperinflation all the time.” —Joe Getty

Grave Robbery & Societal Decay

[36:14–39:24]

• Emergence of Grave Robbery:
  • Reports surface of increased cemetery thefts—specifically bronze plaques and headstones in various US cities—framed as symptoms of societal decline.
  • Hosts draw analogies to other forms of common theft (e.g., shoplifting requiring goods to be locked up), expressing frustration that the public accepts these new realities without protest.
  • Quote [37:50]: “This was okay forever up until like a year ago.” —Joe Getty
  • Quote [39:06]: “The story itself is pretty disturbing. The fact that we, all of us friends, cannot communicate this simple reality to other people successfully makes me insane.” —Joe Getty

Briefs & Mini Headlines

[40:36–47:37]

• Security & Crime: Plug for SimpliSafe with characteristic dark humor, wishing the system could do more to criminals (40:07).
• Celebrity Legal Troubles: News about Kiefer Sutherland’s (fictional in this episode) arrest for threatening an Uber driver, leading to speculation about his temperament and referencing the show “24” (46:00).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Disney-fied Activism:

  • [08:25] “...activism and political conflict have become Disney-fied...what was once an organized strategic movement...has evolved into sort of an intramural sport...” —Kat Rosenfield (read aloud)

• On Militarized Policing:

  • [10:19] “If you dress people like the military and equip them like the military, they're going to start acting like the military.” —Co-host, quoting Kevin Williamson

• On Fringe Media Personalities:

  • [17:25] “Candace Owens is a nut. Or a brilliant manipulator. Nuts.” —Joe Getty

• On Career Change:

  • [31:46] “The cultural part is going to be more important than the other stuff. There's just a lot of people that can't imagine their kid doing a blue collar job.” —Joe Getty

• On Societal Decay:

  • [37:50] “This was okay forever up until like a year ago.” —Joe Getty
  • [39:06] “We cannot communicate this simple reality to other people successfully makes me insane.” —Joe Getty

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |------------|---------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:44 | Minneapolis protests, ICE incident, mayor’s comments | | 05:17 | Kat Rosenfield's essay on protest “Disney-fication” | | 09:55 | Joe Getty reflects on protest as LARPing, unreality | | 11:19 | Militarization of police and psychological effect | | 17:25 | Candace Owens, Charlie Kirk conspiracy theories | | 18:43 | Audience feedback on ‘train wreck’ media figures | | 25:26 | Robotic phlebotomist “Aletta” and automated blood draws | | 30:13 | White collar vs. blue collar job markets and dynamics | | 36:14 | Cemetery and grave robbery as symbol of societal shift | | 40:36 | Home security commentary and irreverent safety suggestions | | 46:00 | Kiefer Sutherland Uber incident, celebrity sidebar |

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Tone and Style

The Armstrong & Getty Show maintains a fast-paced, conversational, and sardonic tone, blending topical seriousness with humor and skepticism. Their analysis is both critical and self-deprecating, often highlighting the absurdity of contemporary politics and media.

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For listeners who missed the episode, this summary covers all significant themes—ranging from street-level commentary on protest culture and law enforcement, to media personalities, technology’s weird march forward, and subtle shifts in American society—all delivered with the hosts’ trademark blend of sarcasm, depth, and wit.

Transcript

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[Co-host]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong. And. For anyone that is taking the bait tonight, stop. That is not helpful. Go home. We cannot counter Donald Trump's chaos with our own brand of chaos. And I have seen thousands of people throughout our city peacefully protesting for those that have peacefully protested. I applaud you for those that are taking the bait. You are not helping and you are not helping the undocumented immigrants in our city.

[Joe Getty]

So that's that mayor of Minneapolis who I believe feels like he's becoming a rock star. And he does a really good job of putting the product in that kind of cowlick on the front to make it just perfect.

[Co-host]

Adolescent Jacob Fry, correct? Yes.

[Joe Getty]

But is it taking the bait to attack an ICE officer with a snow shovel? Is that taking the bait?

[Co-host]

Well, I totally get your point. He, you know, kind of whitewashed what's happening and blamed the other side, which we discussed yesterday. It's a classic progressive thing. You turn the victim into the perpetrator, blah, blah, blah. But I think he was right and smart in what he was saying. Look, what he was trying to say is don't impede the officers, don't block them with your car, don't attack them. Stop it, you idiots. From a purely political point of view, he's right. Any sympathy that would have been gained by peaceful protesting has been lost by these people clearly interfering with law enforcement.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I haven't heard anybody in the last 18 hours since this happened dispute that this was a Venezuelan illegal gang member.

[Co-host]

The latest shooting, if you're not familiar.

[Joe Getty]

With it, that they tried to apprehend. And then he took off in his car, luckily didn't kill anybody, crashed the car. Then when they're trying to apprehend him, a couple of people run out of their house. I don't know who these people were. Attacking the ICE officer with a shovel and a broom handle. At that point, the officer is gonna have to defend himself somehow. And then somebody got shot in the leg. And the ICE officer and the illegal Venezuelan are In the hospital.

[Co-host]

Right, right. So the getting back to the whole don't take the bait thing. And this is a perfect situation, the whole Minnesota thing, shooting of that Renee Good woman and the rest of it, where if everybody could calm down a little bit and Grant, okay, maybe we could ratchet this down. Maybe we could talk to you about this. Maybe you guys could cooperate with us here. You know, we'd all probably be better off than constantly ratcheting things up. But I think this is absolutely, sociologically one of the most interesting aspects of this. And I'm going to quote Kat Rosenfeld, who wrote is it Feld or Field Rosenfeld, who writes for the Free Press. And it occurs to me that there are some of my favorite thinkers. Several of my favorite thinkers are women. So if anybody ever thinks that, you know, when we talk about women's tendency to substitute their instinctive caring mechanisms instead of for babies to illegal immigrant gang bangers that were somehow demeaning women, it's not true. I think women are wonderful and complicated and the rest of it. But Kat Rosenfield is brilliant, and she writes that she, like everybody, has watched videos of the Good incident. The Renee Good incident, she says, but much more than the part where she gets killed. She has watched the parts where she was alive over and over again. The part that fascinates me and haunts me happens earlier, that final fleeting moment just before the car moves forward and shots ring out. It's the last thing Renee Nicole Goode would have heard apart from the crack of the gun. A familiar voice raised in a defiant cheer. Drive, baby, drive. The speaker of these words is Rebecca Good, Renee Good's wife, who can be seen in the video standing outside the car, filming the immigration people, et cetera. We've all seen it in the aftermath of shooting. A blurry image circulating on social media. Rebecca sitting on the icy curb with her dog slumped in grief and horror, covered in blood. This is a woman who just made what is probably the worst mistake of her life, almost certainly, and unlike Renee Good, will have to live with it. And then she gets into the fact that Rebecca's last words to her wife had become a Rorschach test of sorts. An ICE agent had already told Good to get out of her car, making Drive, baby, drive. An act of explicit non compliance. On the right, Commentators seized on this as a particularly potent, if tragic example of just what happens when resistance liberal fooling around turns into finding out, including Kristi Noem. We all remember what she said.

[Joe Getty]

On the left.

[Co-host]

Meanwhile, the fact that Good was trying to drive away only added fuel to the fire of the existing outrage. Since when is a summary execution considered an appropriate penalty for failing to comply? Especially for a 37 year old mom in an SUV who committed no crime? And isn't this America? Or protesting our authoritarian tyranny is kind of our birthright. The notion that Good would be able to drive away from the scene just as easily as she drove into it, and that the armed agents commanding her to exert a vehicle could be safely ignored, is as understandable as it is misguided. And here's where she gets to her point the product of a world in which activism and political conflict have become Disney fied, what was once an organized strategic movement with high stakes and concrete political aims has evolved today into sort of an intramural sport for all comers, from influencers to wine moms to aging boomers who prefer protest marches to pickleball. And if the ease of participation has swelled the ranks of activists to include anyone with an Instagram account, it has also given the entire enterprise a distinct veneer of unreality. Like a theme park populated by actors who spend their days larping as cops or cowboys, then retire at night to a dorm where they eat pizza and hook up with a guy who plays their nemesis. In 2026, political protest, even political violence, might feel like a party or a movie, but the one thing it rarely feels is serious. And still it's too late then. You know, I don't want to read all day, but one of the last things she mentions in this section is that the grieving wife, covered with blood, reportedly screamed after Good was shot. Why do you have real bullets? The notion that ICE agents would have anything but real bullets in their guns may seem astonishing, but it surely speaks to how Renee Good, an ordinary woman and middle aged soul surviving parent, ended up behind the wheel of a car in the middle of the street engaged in a confrontation, the true stakes of which she so devastatingly misapprehended. Quit your radical larping.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I think that's the most interesting thing I've heard in the last week about all this stuff, because I think it's really, really true. It seems like a show on television and then you want to be part of the show, and then if you sit there with a bunch of people with guns at some point and you're blocking them in, which, as we talked about the other day, you can't block in cops because that's how an ambush happens and they have to take it that way.

[Co-host]

Yeah, yeah, and because we're not about clickbaiting or anger. What do you call it, Anger feeding around here. I just want. I want America to be great and free and people to be happy and the economy to be good. Kevin Williamson, who's another brilliant guy and a great writer. He's a good old Texas conservative, very libertarian bent. He writes for the Dispatch these days. He writes. Written for a bunch of conservative outlets. He wrote a column, I think it was yesterday, that was absolutely murderously critical of militarized policing. He hates it. His premise, which I'm going to oversimplify, is that if you dress people like the military and equip them like the military, they're going to start acting like the military. Yeah. Do we want militarized police enforcement except where it's extremely necessary?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. We talked about this years ago when some of the small towns around here were, for a variety of reasons, of funding and every get, you know, getting kind of like your mini tanks and all these different sort of stuff.

[Co-host]

A lot of it was when Iraq and Afghanistan.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right, right, right.

[Co-host]

There was a tremendous amount of military equipment available. And somebody said, can the cops use this?

[Joe Getty]

What the hell do you need that for in this particular town? When are you ever going to need that in the. Yeah, it puts people on edge.

[Co-host]

So you had a. Conducting a raid in Fallujah, vehicle to serve a warrant on a guy who had, you know, whatever. He didn't show up for his shoplifting trial. Yeah. It's a question at least worth asking.

[Joe Getty]

So it would seem. We purchased our government purchased a brain scrambler like the Russians apparently had, that was scrambling brains of Americans. And now we can scramble brains. More details on that story that we had for you the other day. Pretty interesting modern technology. Yipes.

[Co-host]

You know, one final note on the Minnesota LARPing thing, because I left this out. The vibe in the video, she writes, is strangely casual. It's chaotic, but strangely casual. Yeah. Good's wife is in the videos heckling the officers. You want to come at us? I say, go get yourself some lunch, big boy. Ballsy and confident and absolutely certain that nothing bad could possibly come out.

[Joe Getty]

Right, Right. That's not the way normal people would react to. I'm in a situation. There's cops. I mean, most of us, we get pulled. I think I only know my own stuff. You get pulled over for speeding, It's a little bit of a. You know, I'm going to make sure my hands are up here. Everybody knows what's going on. You know, I'm going to say yes sir and hand them the stuff they asked for.

[Co-host]

Especially because blocking in vehicles is a well known ambush tactic and a bunch of cops and federal officers have been hit with vehicles intentionally just in the last few months. So the idea that this is a fun activity without any possible negative repercussions is it's delusional.

[Joe Getty]

Speaking of delusional, Candace Owens believes Charlie Kirk is a time traveling something or other. We talked about that earlier. We got a bunch of text replies that were interesting. We'll revisit that a little bit.

[Co-host]

You heard him right folks. A time traveler.

[Joe Getty]

We got other stuff to talk about too. Stay here.

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[Joe Getty]

It's official. John Harbaugh is the coach of the New York Giants football team.

[Co-host]

Yay or boo. I don't care.

[Joe Getty]

I was thinking the other day how we treat like celebrities or people like that with you don't think about their real lives. Like the fact that he and his wife and they've raised kids in the Baltimore area for two decades and now we're gonna pick up and move to another town like lots of us do. It's not like nobody has to. But yeah, that's not the easiest thing in the world. It's not just like you lost a cool job, now you got another cool job. It'd be pretty disruptive. Anywho, it's also official. Candace Owens is a nut. She thinks. Or.

[Co-host]

Or a brilliant manipulator. Nuts.

[Joe Getty]

You're right. You're right. Always gotta, always gotta hold out that likelihood. Which is probably the most likely thing. So this got a fair amount of attention for people who follow this sort of thing. After all the things she said about her friend, the assassinated Charlie Kirk, she now thinks he's a time traveler.

[Co-host]

Charlie died?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. Like I said, it was related to this organization.

[Co-host]

And I think We.

[Jack Armstrong]

We would all agree that his death.

[Co-host]

And the manner that they did it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Changed the world in ways that I don't think we. We can fully realize.

[Show Announcer]

Or I.

[Co-host]

Certainly not in a way that I can articulate.

[Jack Armstrong]

You just cannot pretend that all of this is one big unhappy coincidence. It's entirely plausible, I think.

[Co-host]

Plausible that they knew something about Charlie and that's why they had him marked. This is so long and rambly. He believe he belonged to a conspiracy of time travelers and they were keeping track of him. The agents were. And when he was going to withdraw the funding from Turning Point or something.

[Joe Getty]

The Jews.

[Co-host]

The Jews and the time travelers had Charlie Kirk killed.

[Joe Getty]

And then he and Loki took on Owen Wilson and were running through the halls and it got very confusing.

[Co-host]

I saw the trailer today. Yeah, it's very action packed.

[Joe Getty]

So we got a number of responses of that. The conversation we had last hour. I listened to Candace Owens for the same reason I listen to Bigfoot podcasts. Funny. We also got this. Not every follower of Nick Fuentes and Candace Owens are supporters. Some people follow because it's a train wreck. I follow Gavin Newsom. I'm definitely not a supporter. Followed Candace for a while for that reason, but she went too far off the rails. That is one thing you got to keep in the mind with the controversial crowd. So if you. If. If Tucker has however many million followers on Twitter, what percentage of them are there for the train wreck? And to see what crazy stuff he says. Like. Like I am more or less. It's not because I believe everything Tucker says and can't wait for the next video he puts out.

[Jack Armstrong]

Fair enough.

[Joe Getty]

It's hard to know the percentage on those. You have to recognize the difference between the voice of God and the voice of Satan. This sounds like functional mental illness. It's hard for a healthy person to create this. S. Offhand, I don't know.

[Co-host]

Yeah, I don't know. I. I've read enough about scientists who study this sort of thing who. Who can tell you the formula for stringing people along. And if they can figure it out, somebody very, very bright like a Tucker Carlson or a Candace Owens can figure it out. And there's a hell of a lot of money in it.

[Joe Getty]

Candace Owens is just following the Dr. Jean Scott method of keeping an audience off to Google that. I don't know. I don't know that reference. No, she sounds like a cult leader. I know that you will never put this on the air, but by going after Candy, you're wrong. But by going after Candace and your Conspiracy theorists all morning. You are proving how much of a Jewish apologist this show really is. And why don't you just cover for them forever?

[Co-host]

Oh, you busted us.

[Joe Getty]

Is that. You busted us. Is that trolling? Or is it. Or do you believe that, that we're like, working for the Jews somehow?

[Co-host]

What do you think that note is?

[Joe Getty]

I don't know. I actually don't know. There's so much trolling going on, I just don't know.

[Co-host]

Well, and it's so hard to even parody what's going on in the world because it's all so nutty to a certain extent.

[Joe Getty]

Like last segment, everybody's LARPing constantly. It's a net. It's never ending.

[Co-host]

LARP.

[Joe Getty]

I'm playing the role of this and you're playing the role of that. Now I'm going to play the role of this. First you clipped it, then you misinterpreted what she said. What have you guys become? I feel betrayed listening to you guys.

[Co-host]

Sorry to hear that.

[Joe Getty]

She did not call Turning Point USA a time traveling cabal. She said she felt like Charlie Kirk was like a time traveler. He somehow knew things.

[Co-host]

She thought.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, all right. You have now no idea what you're talking about with Candace Owens. Why bring it up if you, if, if your understanding about what she's saying is so limited? Okay, all right.

[Co-host]

Congratulations. Having been ensnared in her web of rhetorical madness. But I've got to enjoy the ride.

[Joe Getty]

I've got to assume that people at the highest levels of the Republican Party are trying to figure out the same thing I've been trying to figure out is how much heft do these people actually have? How much do we have to court that audience?

[Co-host]

Right. How many of our voters here you have to just not run them off, I think is what everybody's concluded. You don't have to embrace them. Exactly. Other than, you know, you have lunch with Nick Fuentes and you have Tucker over and you, whatever, you just make gestures of friendliness. Then you think, oh my God, what a. What a bunch of nut jobs. And then more or less ignore them just politically to keep the coalition together.

[Joe Getty]

Everybody's reporting now on this basketball scandal that has come out today with it's now college basketball, Division 1 college basketball. Quite a few players. Too many players that were shaving points apparently over the last couple of seasons. We'll get more details as they come out.

[Co-host]

Yeah, indeed. I wanted to grab that article and I've lost it. So I think the difference between I'll just speak for myself. A guy like me, cynical, world weary, having observed this sort of thing over and over again and a lot of people who fall for it is I understand, I've said many times every good scam is 80 to 90% truth. It's that last 10 to 20% that makes it a scam. And I think a lot of people like fall in love with the 80 to 90% that is truth and think. But no, I can't believe. No, that's not a scam because look at all these things they said were true. You're just still a little naive about the way scams work. But I don't have time to flesh out that thought. I have to leave it there.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, a couple of interesting stories for you this half hour, I think. I hope you can stick around if you miss a good podcast Armstrong and.

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[Co-host]

The patient inserts a cartridge with labeled blood collection tubes. A green light indicator guides the patient.

[Joe Getty]

For correct arm placement.

[Jack Armstrong]

Aletta uses a combination of near infrared and ultrasound to identify suitable vein and will not attempt a venipuncture unless one is found.

[Co-host]

This approach allows Aletta to successfully puncture almost every patient regardless of skin tone.

[Jack Armstrong]

Body type or challenging base.

[Co-host]

Using Doppler ultrasound, Aletta also accurately distinguishes between veins and arteries.

[Joe Getty]

Oh my God.

[Co-host]

Once the optimal vein is identified, take your time.

[Jack Armstrong]

The needle is inserted with sub millimeter robotic precision.

[Co-host]

The needle is not visible for the patient. The patient cannot see or feel the tubes filling and being changed.

[Jack Armstrong]

Once complete, Aletta removes the needle and applies a bandage.

[Joe Getty]

Listen to the music. Listen to the music. It makes it sound fantastic that this robot phlebotomist is going to come in and start jabbing me, puncturing me with a 100% successful puncture. Well, I could puncture you 100% of the time too. It's not that hard.

[Co-host]

Hold still. Nothing counts so much as blood. I have come up with a name for my new seven member heavy metal band featuring five guitars. It is venipuncture. Yes, puncture. Well, in watching the video, it's like a horror movie because it's this machine. Well, it's this machine and you stick.

[Joe Getty]

Your arm into a hole.

[Co-host]

So I've seen a similar video online, but go on.

[Show Announcer]

I walked. I walked.

[Joe Getty]

No, I didn't walk. I ran right into that one. I see your point. So I Mean it's a horrific. The idea that okay, it's going to line up the veins for me and can tell the difference between veins and arteries and blah blah blah. But just sticking your arm in a hole and hoping for the best.

[Co-host]

Yeah, well the idea is you can't see it right. That's supposed to make it more comfortable. But then it's like in theory is.

[Joe Getty]

Great but you don't know if they're gonna bite it up. No, that's the other thing.

[Co-host]

You know, it reminds me of the analysis of the Supreme Court hearing about the gender bending madness and sports is if you accept that trans girls are girls, well then it's a completely different argument. So the entire question of this boils down to does it work the way they say it does or doesn't it?

[Joe Getty]

How about you try it?

[Co-host]

Well, I've had some iffy phlebotomists too.

[Joe Getty]

Jack, and they are no blanking bargain definitely.

[Co-host]

If this thing uses ultrasound and infrared and whatever to locate deep breaths. Perfect. A perfect vein and then less than a millimeter in with precision. And NASA directed the space age science. That sounds good to me. But if it doesn't work, it's a blank and nightmare.

[Joe Getty]

How about it works really well but every once in a while it goes on the fritz.

[Co-host]

Well that's what I liked is the one line in there goes and it successfully it sets on the successful blood.

[Joe Getty]

Draws on most patients.

[Show Announcer]

So what about the other ones?

[Co-host]

Where are they? I have a little.

[Joe Getty]

A medical thing a company that I deal with and they needed some blood and they sent me this little thing to slap on my arm. Have you ever done that before?

[Co-host]

No sir.

[Joe Getty]

Is a little. It looked like a little box and I just was supposed to slap it on my arm and felt nothing. Absolutely nothing. And then blood started to flow into a little vial there. And then I pulled it out and put it in the prepaid FedEx Evan envelope and sent it back to him. But I mean it had no feeling whatsoever. Zero. And I thought how did it do that? And it was supposed to like measure just the, the few millimeters it takes to get blood. And maybe this thing can do it.

[Co-host]

Bill Gates communicates to you through that chip then Is that the way that works?

[Joe Getty]

But I, I, you know, I wish I could always give blood in such a painless way as this thing I used through the mail. So maybe this.

[Co-host]

How interesting. Yeah, I, I suspect it's coming better than some half ass phlebotomist.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, usually. That's an Excellent point.

[Co-host]

94 of punctures. The other 6% are being hospitalized for their physical and emotional injuries by the.

[Joe Getty]

Model that never uses the word vein or puncture.

[Co-host]

Oh boy. Coming up, grave robbery is spreading across America and it's not a joke. Gee, of your signs, your society is crumbling. I gotta believe that's, you know, toward the top. Thought this was interesting. Callum Borcher's terrific writer in the Wall Street Journal. White collar workers shouldn't dismiss a blue collar career. And he's talking about, and this will just increase, my friends, layoffs and stagnant wages. Have a hell of a lot of white collar workers feeling stuck applying for 150 desk jobs without a lot, without luck getting one interview and it doesn't pan out. Meanwhile, your blue collar industries face a labor shortage.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that came up with Trump the other night when he was at the Ford plant. The Tony what's his name said Ford's saying that they just can't get enough mechanics.

[Co-host]

Yeah, there are complications to that specific field. Takes you a long time. You got to have a lot of expensive tools, blah, blah, blah. But there are plenty of examples. I mean, in fact they give some here and, and they admit, look, depending on your age there are some blue collar jobs, so called blue collar jobs that are, you know, tough on your back and your knees and you, you don't have forever to do them. And how hard it is for traditional white collar folks in like tech, finance, media marketing to, to go to the blue collar world because of the, the prejudices we and micro and others have been talking about for a very long time.

[Joe Getty]

That's what I was going to say. The cultural part is going to be more important than the other stuff. There's just a lot of people that can't imagine their kid doing a blue collar job. It would just be a disappointment to the whole family. What if the neighbors found out?

[Co-host]

Right, Exactly. Yeah. And that was one of the more insidious parts of the Obama years in my opinion. Was he in particular. And people who think like him really pushed the idea that anything other than a college education is a nightmare and an insult and hurtful. And you know, let's eliminate these programs for, you know, shop class and job training programs. I can't remember. What's the word? I can't remember. And let's make everything college prep in school anyway, not to get distracted with my dislike of Barack Obama. It can take years to master trade and make good money at it. Starting in your 30s and 40s leaves a shorter window. A bruised ego isn't the only obstacle to a career change. But they mentioned there are jobs.

[Joe Getty]

I just gotta interject, I mean that might be true for some things but I know, I personally know people who have gone to some of these places where they'll pay you to go to school because they're so desperate for welders or certain sort of tech stuff like mechanics sort of stuff that, that's high tech. And they paid them and they, it's like a six month school and they start making decent money right away. It wasn't a build a career over a decade.

[Co-host]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

Sort of situation.

[Co-host]

Crash Champions, a car repair chain with about 650 shops in 38 states is hungry for service advisors. You assess the damage, estimate the cost to fix it, oversee the process. You don't need to sweat under the hood, you just need to know a lot about cars. And for those who don't, there's a six months, six month apprenticeship program. Starting salaries roughly 60 grand which would be a pay cut, a pretty good pay cut for a lot of white collar workers. But service advisors can double their salaries in 18 months. According to the CEO.

[Joe Getty]

It would be.

[Co-host]

And that can often lead to becoming the GM of a shopper.

[Joe Getty]

It's not a pay cut if you're making zero.

[Co-host]

Well, right, right.

[Joe Getty]

If you want to live in the real world where your job no longer exists, it's not a pay cut, it's a pay increase from what you currently have. 0 to $60,000 a year.

[Co-host]

Right, right. Yeah, it's, it's tough to transcend the reality you took to be permanent.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's tough.

[Co-host]

Massive change happens and I, I worry.

[Joe Getty]

Greatly that I'm going to have to deal with that in the last quarter of my life. Like is everything gets turned completely upside down.

[Co-host]

Right, right. And I don't blame people for struggling to do that. Having been raised with certain expectations and seen the world as it is and told over and over again that this is the way you should live your life. You internalize that stuff. You believe it. You believe it to your bone. Well sure, your bones, not just one bone, multiple bones.

[Joe Getty]

And is not to depress or scare you. Although I could see how you'd tune in and think that is our job or we see it as our goal. I was reading about the hyper inflation in Germany leading up to World War II, but hyperinflation they had in Venezuela, Iran, it leads to such unrest because. And try to imagine this for yourself, not only for young people, is it horrible? But how about you're 50, you've worked your life, you've accumulated, you know, your money, little by little, tried to do the right thing, and then all of a sudden, it's worthless. You're at square one. Everything you've built, your entire life is gone. That happens with hyperinflation all the time. You talk about having to adjust to a new reality. What, all that I did my whole life is for nothing? Nothing. I got nothing.

[Co-host]

Sacrifices I made, all, everything.

[Joe Getty]

It started completely over.

[Co-host]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

Well, you're gonna have to give me a moment.

[Co-host]

Yeah. And a bottle. And they mentioned that, like in security firms, it's about 20, $25 an hour to be an unarmed security agent in a lot of different places, blah, blah, blah. But you can quickly rise up and become a manager and earn six figures. And then finally this. The CEO of this security firm who dropped out of college, argues people make too much of professional distinctions. I hate using the terms white collar and blue collar. What will those terms even mean?

[Joe Getty]

No kidding. Yeah, you're right. You're right. We probably need to do away with those.

[Co-host]

Here's the part that depresses you. Grave robbery is spreading across America. Opioid abuse and the rising value of bronze are among the factors driving themes. Thieves to loot cemeteries. And they start in scenic Compton. California, of course. Leading the nation, showing the way to the future. Junkies on every corner. And grave robbery, that's the California promise. Gavin for president. Ruin the entire country.

[Joe Getty]

Grave robbery.

[Co-host]

So, in Compton alone, thieves have damaged or stolen nearly 1600 headstones and plaques in the last couple of years. We got hit in January, says the operator of Woodlawn Celestial Gardens. We got hit in December. We got hit in November. We won't be replacing them. We can't afford that. We can barely take care of the cemetery. Across the country, New York, more than $170,000 worth of bronze vases and markers were stolen from a big cemetery. Oh, that was in Minneapolis. In Minneapolis.

[Joe Getty]

This reminds me of Indiana, even. This is another one of those things where. That's funny. You've been able to have gravestones and bronze plaques for 200 years in this country. You just did. Nobody even gave it a second thought. You just could, and now you can't. Sounds an awful lot like a. That's funny. You could just have toothpaste on the shelf for the last 200 years and it was fine, but now you got to put it behind lot glass, huh? Times change now. Policies change, and you get the results.

[Co-host]

Yeah. In societies and shared values change and crumble. In my very conservative neck of the woods my wife reported to me. They're starting to put some of the more stolen items behind lock and key now for the first time. Echoing the blue cities of America.

[Joe Getty]

And that is very.

[Co-host]

You gotta lock people up.

[Joe Getty]

You see, that's the way you solve it. You lock up freaking criminals.

[Co-host]

For what? Committing crimes. Wow. You're part of the patriarchy. White supremacy. The over incarceration of America. So here's a story from Brooklyn. Here's one from Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Massachusetts, South Dakota, Louisiana, Illinois, Iowa, blah blah, blah. Demand for scrap metal. What has changed? It's not that difficult a question and answer. No, you know what's the only this. The story itself is pretty disturbing. The fact that we, all of us friends, cannot communicate this simple reality to other people successfully makes me insane. The fact that they walk into their Walgreens and everything's locked up. You can't buy a $3 whatever without getting somebody to help you. And they just accept it. Like sheep. Like cattle.

[Joe Getty]

Exactly. Times change, right? No, no. This. This was okay forever up until like a year ago.

[Co-host]

Why do you like this? No, why do you think it's happened? I don't know. Yeah. Oh boy, oh boy. Now I'm making myself mad.

[Joe Getty]

That is troubling.

[Co-host]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Co-host]

Only now I wish the Simplisafe live agent could route hundreds of volts into these people's genitals. Or you know, something similar, but they can't. But they can. Turn on your floodlights, blast a siren, call the cops and tell the scumbag the cops are on the way. It's so great right now. You can get 50% off any new system this month only. It's great time to upgrade to security that actually helps stop crime before it starts. Go to simplisafe.com Armstrong that's simplisafe.com Armstrong there's no safe like simply safe.

[Joe Getty]

Jack Bauer got thrown in jail the other night in Los Angeles. Keeper Southern Also a little old man.

[Co-host]

Got arrested in California.

[Joe Getty]

He threatened to kill an Uber driver.

[Co-host]

I hear that sometimes.

[Joe Getty]

Also we bought a brain scrambler. We the taxpayer maybe we can use it on somebody that has it coming.

[Co-host]

They can incorporate the end is simply safe huh? Watch your brain scrambled. Step away from the door.

[Joe Getty]

All this on the way.

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[Joe Getty]

We talked about this the other day. There are just a few more details now on we have the the machine that scrambles brains that somebody was doing to us years ago called Havana Syndrome. And we talked about it a lot and we had all kinds of diplomats. Some of them had to leave their jobs permanently because they their brain, they couldn't think straight and they heard noises and all these different sorts of things.

[Co-host]

It's called constant severe headaches.

[Joe Getty]

It's called Havana Syndrome because it started with diplomats in Cuba. But it's happened a bunch of different places around the world. When everybody suspected Russia or China or something like that. Like that. Most likely Russia. As in the waning weeks of the Biden administration, we, the Department of Defense, we taxpayers, purchased one of these devices, we think at the cost of it says eight figures, which would be at least $10 million according to people familiar with the matter from people who had the backpack. It's like a portable backpack sized thing.

[Co-host]

Was probably like a Russian oligarch or somebody like that who had access to the technology and just wanted to score, you know, or needed money for the the Ukraine effort. Who knows?

[Joe Getty]

Well, you, you know, eight figures. Was it 10 million or was it 90 million? It could have been a lot of money.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Which you know, in the Pentagon budget would not be much at all. But how about the fact that it's a back a portable backpack sort of thing that you can wear around, emits pulsed radio frequency energy for more than a year. We we've had this and we've been practicing it and possibly used it down in Venezuela the other day as there were reports of people having their brains scrambled down there. Some of the guards of Omadura.

[Co-host]

Damn. Yeah. It might not be necessary to ever shoot anybody ever again in warfare.

[Joe Getty]

No kidding.

[Co-host]

They scramble your brains. You make them feel like they're on fire. A bunch of drones move in, then robot wolves, then God knows whatever else.

[Joe Getty]

Or the electricity gets shut off and your car won't go and you're sitting in the dark and.

[Co-host]

Or your plane won't take off or whatever.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's interesting. I'm glad we have it now. If other people have it, I'm glad we have it. So I loved the show 24 I don't like Kiefer Sutherland much. Based on interviews I've seen with him is one pretentious progressive what you might call it. Anyway, he got arrested in LA the other day. According to the Uber driver, Kiefer Sullivan threatened to kill him if he didn't pull over, leading to the star's arrest. And the police must have believed it enough to arrest him. The actor, who's 59 years old, told cops he called for an Uber Black after having dinner with a friend late Sunday night and asked the driver to take him home. At some point during the ride, Kiefer Sutherland asked the driver to pull over and let him out. According to the Uber driver, Sutherland then threatened to kill him if he didn't pull over. The driver then called 9 1.

[Co-host]

What happened between those two things? That's what I need.

[Joe Getty]

The driver called 911 at 12:15am and told police he was assaulted by Kiefer Sutherland near Sunset Boulevard and Fairfax Avenue. Cops then determined Sutherland had physically assaulted the Uber driver and made threats toward his life.

[Co-host]

Well, maybe he should have pulled over.

[Joe Getty]

Sutherland was arrested on felony charges for making criminal threats threat and then he was released. So there you go. By the way, I didn't know this. He he had bumped a guy and broke his nose because he had actually guy had actually dently bumped into Kiefer Sutherland's date once incidents back in 2007, drunken driving, fights and that sort of stuff. So it's not surprising if you missed a segment. Get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand Armstrong and Getty on Demand.

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