A Country Full Of Robots

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: "A Country Full Of Robots"

Date: January 27, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Armstrong & Getty navigate a series of charged national news stories—from the fraught immigration enforcement operations in Minnesota to the global ramifications of China’s technological ambitions and population crisis. The hosts wrestle with civil unrest, ideological polarization, international trade dynamics, and the future implications of mass automation and artificial intelligence. The tone veers from serious political analysis to wry humor, sometimes dark, with a dash of self-deprecation and skepticism about authority.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Minnesota Immigration Protests and Law Enforcement Tensions

[03:08–15:09]

• The episode opens with a recap of the current unrest in Minnesota following increased immigration enforcement, focusing on how the Trump administration’s changes have led to large protests, confrontations, and arrests.
• Police declared unlawful assembly at a hotel where protesters believed ICE agents were staying; 26 people were arrested.
• Both hosts critique the escalation, debate use of force, and explore the psychological toll on law enforcement.

Notable Quotes:

• Jack Armstrong: “All those dudes who are out there doing this job...you didn’t take that job thinking you’d ever do this sort of thing.” [06:35]
• Joe Getty: “We must be strategic and smart, and not give them precisely what they want, which is more violence and chaos.” [07:36]

Analysis of the Shooting Incident:

• The hosts dissect a recent police shooting during the protests.
  • Debate over whether the first gunshot was fired by the civilian or law enforcement.
  • Sympathy expressed for law officers placed in chaotic, high-pressure situations beyond their training.
  • Caution to gun rights advocates about inserting themselves, armed, into volatile protests.
• Jack Armstrong: “I ain’t showing up to a hot situation like that with a gun and hoping for the best.” [14:31]

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2. Political Leadership, Media Bubbles, and Tribalism

[08:28–14:51]

• Jack proposes a television moment in which leaders from both sides—federal authorities and local officials—admit missteps on national television. This, he argues, would help pierce ideological media bubbles and foster unity.
• Jack Armstrong: “If you heard Governor Walz...say there are thousands of criminal illegals...that would be so helpful.” [09:38]
• Discussion on the challenges of honesty in politics, especially for leaders facing wrath from their own base.

Social Conflict Complexity

• Joe raises the dilemma of “sanctuary city” policies and their motivation: protecting vulnerable communities versus harboring criminals.
• Joe Getty: “How do we get child rapists off the street...and also the poor Mrs. Gomez who...is afraid to call the cops?” [11:09]

Acknowledging Extremes and Honest Conversation

• Both hosts express frustration at the scarcity of honest brokers in the debate, noting that most public discourse is trapped in competing narratives.
• Joe Getty: “It’s difficult figuring out who’s a troll, and who’s just so swept up...Everybody’s got a narrative.” [22:05]

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3. Listener Responses and Self-Reflection

[20:19–22:43]

• The hosts read and respond to texts, reflecting on criticism from both left and right, and challenge the “say his name” slogan related to the shooting.
• Jack Armstrong: “I wasn’t avoiding saying the guy’s...[name]. In what way does it make it better for anybody?” [20:34]
• Surprised by how many anti-ICE texts the show receives, even from their audience.

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4. “Inside the China Cabinet”: U.S.–China Rivalry and Geopolitics

[25:56–34:06]

• Shift in focus to geopolitics, especially Western allies increasingly cooperating with China amid U.S. protectionism.
• Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney’s announced partnership with China on EVs is lampooned.
• Discussion of how Chinese electric vehicles are rapidly overtaking Western counterparts in Europe due to government subsidies and trade deals.
  • Armstrong and Getty emphasize that Europe’s push toward electric vehicles is policy-driven, not just market-driven.
• Analysis of Democratic Socialists of America’s open interactions with China’s Communist Party.
  • Joe Getty: “You used to do this secretly during the Cold War...stunning.” [29:13]
• News of shakeups in China’s military leadership; hosts speculate it mirrors paranoid authoritarian purges seen in history.

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5. China’s Population Collapse and Automation—“A Country Full of Robots”

[44:35–45:44]

• Notable tech commentator Gordon Chang describes China’s demographic crash: “China will lose probably 2/3 to 3/4 of its population...No country has ever undergone a demographic collapse like this.”
• Hosts discuss the implications: China responds by investing heavily in robotics and automation, enabling “dark factories” that function without human workers.
  • Jack Armstrong: “So at some point, they’ll be the number one or two economy in the world, but it’s a robot country.” [45:35]
  • Joe Getty: “And then when all the people are gone...what is the competition with a country that’s all robots? That’s interesting.” [45:59]

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6. Technology, AI, and Personal Organization

[46:04–47:49]

• They pivot to a lighter tech segment, discussing the increasing role of artificial intelligence in daily life.
• Story of a woman who hands over all her scheduling and subscriptions to Anthropic’s Claude AI and finds it life-changing.
• Jack expresses intention to try this approach.
  • Joe Getty: “Maybe just a mild electric shock to remind me...not enough to kill me, just enough to bring me to my knee.” [47:23]

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7. “Netflix Special” Sidebar – Climbing the Taipei Tower

[34:06–40:47, 43:43–44:23]

• Jack raves about a recent Netflix live broadcast where a daredevil climbs the Taipei 101 skyscraper without ropes. The segment is a moment of levity, focusing on psychological differences in risk-taking and physical fortitude.
  • Armstrong marvels at the “fear center being switched off” in the climber’s brain, drawing parallels to scientific studies.
  • Banter about the ridiculous contributions of the UFC fighter color commentator.
• Jack Armstrong: “Watching that show on my 80 inch 4k television...he grabs some tiny little thing and swings his foot up...the whole time we were watching the show and I’m like, ‘No!’” [36:54]
• Joe: “I think there’s something wrong with his brain. The part that tells you, ‘this is too dangerous,’ I shouldn’t do it, just doesn’t work for him.” [40:33]

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Additional Notable Quotes & Moments

• “Kids, don’t put pressured, harried law enforcement officers in that sort of crazed position.” — Joe Getty [06:01]
• “If you feel like immigration law should not be enforced under any circumstances, that’s interesting to me.” — Jack Armstrong [22:29]
• “Europe and China are in some ways natural allies...China is committed to rules-based international trade.” — Jack Armstrong, quoting the New York Times with incredulity [30:11]
• “Don’t trust China. We don’t.” — Jack Armstrong [26:27/31:16]
• “Xi Jinping is evil, but he’s no fool.” — Joe Getty [45:06]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 03:08 — Minnesota protest updates and law enforcement response
• 06:09 — Sympathy for law enforcement after shootings
• 07:36 — Strategic caution on escalation/violence
• 08:28–12:40 — What true leadership and honest dialogue could look like
• 15:09 — Shift to tech risks and cybersecurity
• 18:10 — Satirical activist “tips” for resisting ICE agents
• 22:05 — Listener feedback and show’s audience makeup
• 25:56 — “Inside the China Cabinet”: U.S.–China tensions
• 30:11 — Critique of Western alliances with China
• 34:06 — China's military leadership purge
• 44:35 — China’s population collapse and robot future
• 46:04 — Life-management by AI; Claude/Anthropic story
• 34:06–40:47 — Netflix Taipei tower climb segment
• 43:43–44:23 — Further analysis of risk-taking psychology in extreme sports

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Episode Tone & Takeaways

The episode’s tone is classic Armstrong & Getty: a blend of earnest political analysis, frustration with tribalism, skepticism about both government overreach and anti-authoritarian extremism, and moments of levity or dark humor. The hosts consistently advocate for honest dialogue, strategic thinking, and the value of context—whether discussing shootings, social movements, or international power plays.

Listeners walk away with a clearer sense of the complexity behind headlines—especially the multi-layered nature of America’s internal divides, the chessboard shifts in international relations, and the uncertainties posed by rapid technological change, both in foreign capitals and at home.

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[Joe Getty]

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The situation in Minnesota seems to be cooling. The Trump administration is making changes to their immigration enforcement. Bovino and some of his Border Patrol agents out homing coming in. And this all comes after that phone call that Mills also mentioned with President Trump speaking directly to Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry. The president described the call as very good. Also writing on his true social lots of progress is being made.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, Trump talked in very positive terms about his phone call with Governor Walz and Mayor Fry and so did the mayor and the governor. So that brings you up to speed a little on that. And then also overnight as there were lots and lots of protesters outside the hotel of where they believed Border Patrol and ICE agents were making lots of noise and there were a whole bunch of arrests.

[News Reporter]

Now, an unlawful assembly was declared outside of a hotel overnight where anti ICE protesters believed that Greg Bovino was staying. Maple Grove police in riot gear used wooden batons to keep people back and they estimated about 26 people were arrested. There are roughly 3,000 federal immigration officers a part of Operation Metro Surge in Minnesota. And some of those Border Patrol agents are leaving while others have been placed on standby.

[Jack Armstrong]

So it's not that the local officials aren't doing anything. I mean they, they declared that an unlawful assembly. They've done that many nights over the last several weeks and arrested a whole bunch of people who are not peacefully protesting as there is their constitutional right. They're doing something unconstitutional or illegal.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, it would seem that both sides are definitely seeing the appeal of ratcheting down tensions.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. What I would say if I were president in a moment, but I was just thinking about got so many videos now of that shooting from Saturday from so many different angles. Seems pretty clear what happened. I think am I wrong that. Once they decided this guy needed to, I don't know, was, was, was interfering with law enforcement. They try to push him to the ground. Somebody sees a gun on him, takes the gun away from him, it goes off. At some point several of them started shooting the dude.

[Joe Getty]

Is that, is that pretty well known at this point? That the first shot came from his gun.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think that's accepted as whether. I don't. I'm not sure. Makes any difference whether it did or not.

[Joe Getty]

Well, yeah, I think it does. Yeah, it does. I mean, that would be a gun, a gunshot that was not from a federal agent.

[Jack Armstrong]

True. It wouldn't be good either way because, yeah, it wasn't toward them or the guy that got shot wasn't the guy who fired it.

[Joe Getty]

And again, kids don't put pressured, harried law enforcement officers in that sort of crazed position.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's what I was going to talk about. I haven't heard any sympathy for these officers who shot this guy. Can you imagine when the smoke cleared and things settled down and you realized, holy crap, he wasn't. He didn't have a gun. He was shooting at me. My life wasn't in danger. I just shot this guy six times. Can you imagine what that feels like?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, just nightmarish.

[Jack Armstrong]

All those. All those dudes who are out there doing this job that they weren't. This is not what their training is for. When you're. You're a border patrol agent, you don't train for, like you said yesterday, riot control. That's not what. You didn't get into the. That you didn't take that job thinking you'd ever do this sort of thing.

[Joe Getty]

Or doing investigations and apprehensions in the midst of a riot. Right. Crazier still.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then all this craziness happened and, you know, I don't think it's nothing that the. I think it was Bovino on Sunday morning talked about how day before, the day before this happened, some border patrol agents got tackled by protesters. They were in a fight, fist fight on the ground, and one of them got their finger bit off. If, you know, you're in that environment on the next day, I mean, you're walking around really amped up.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, I can hear. Well, I don't want to steal any of your thunder because you, as the president, have a statement you want to make.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. That's different than the conversation.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, okay. I was gonna say I can hear some of my hard charging, righteous, conservative brothers and sisters saying this feels a little bit like we're giving the radical leftists. Joe, you're always talking about a win, right. Driving the feds back. My answer to that would be, we cannot fail to be strategic. We must be strategic and smart and not give them precisely what they want, which is more violence and chaos, because that's their excuse to escalate and draw, you know, increasingly normal people into the fray because they can more accurately portray it as the government is now killing people in the streets. We've got to be smart. They crave. They. They want desperately there to be violence and chaos. That's what they need.

[Jack Armstrong]

The president is headed to Iowa today to give a speech on affordability. I have a feeling that is not going to be heard by anyone in the midst of all this stuff. I wish we don't live in a time where this could happen, but I wish he could go to Minnesota or maybe you bring him to the White House and have a primetime Oval Office address. And I'm not sure which the two people are, but one from each side of this. Maybe you have Governor Walls and Bovino or Holman or whoever you think it is, one on each side. And you say to Bovino, you say, I want you to look at the camera and say we have gone too far. We have harassed US Citizens and taken people down in ways that we shouldn't have done and we apologize and we're going to try to do better. I want you to look at the camera and say that. And then I want you to make Walls look at the camera and say there are thousands of criminal illegals in this city that need to be arrested and either put in jail or shipped out of the country. Look at the camera and say that you both need to do this because that would be so helpful.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Walls is out there lying right now saying, we cooperate with ice. If there's a prisoner being released from the prisons who's an illegal, we contact ice. Yeah, but that doesn't that. The jails, the local, the county jails, the city jails. That's where all these people. Don't you think that would disingenuous.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, we need to unite and heal wounds. Don't you think that would heal a lot of wounds? Because if you did that, it would cut through the media bubble everybody's in. Because if you take in right wing media, you're pretty much only hearing that side and you know, on the other side. The other side. And so if you heard Governor Walls look in the. There are a bunch of people that would be shocked by this information. I know some of them that would be shocked if they turned on their liberal newscast and Governor Walz was looking at him saying there are thousands of criminal illegals who have done really bad things in this city and they deserve to go. We need to arrest them and get them out. There are people to be shocked. There are. Oh my God. I didn't think There were any.

[Joe Getty]

Now your casting is the problem because walls is such a moral.

[Jack Armstrong]

Pick a different person.

[Joe Getty]

That was just. I wanted to kick walls. It's fine, you'll find somebody. But I would also like walls to say, look, here's our concern. We're afraid because we've got a huge Hispanic community and yeah, a lot of them are undocumented. We're afraid they'll be afraid to, like, cooperate with us on other stuff or call the cops when something bad happens. The bad guys will have free reign because these people will be afraid to contact the government. That's why we call ourselves a sanctuary city. We're really worried about that. What can we do to serve both sides of that? Now that would be leadership. Can you imagine somebody in authority saying that? Okay, I think you're overblowing that fear, but I will recognize that you're sincere about it. Let's think out how we can solve that. How we can get child rapists off the street. Y' all are defending child rapists. How do we get them off the street? And also the poor Mrs. Gomez who, you know, somebody broke into her house, but she's afraid to call the cops. How do we deal with that? Let's think together.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I see.

[Joe Getty]

Wouldn't that be lovely?

[Jack Armstrong]

Obviously, I see one side closer to right than the other. I do think if you had Bovino, for instance, look into the camera and say officers have gotten out over their skis a bunch of different times and done things they shouldn't have done, that there would probably be people who are only taking in Fox News who would be shocked by that information to find out, oh, okay. Some of that stuff the liberals are saying is true. But the difference is the ICE Border patrol crowd would love it if they didn't ever make any mistakes and only got the illegals out on the other side. However, the governor doesn't actually want those illegals booted out. Even the criminals. Yeah, that's why it'd be hard for him to say or to wrestle with because he doesn't even want that to happen. They don't even want the freaking criminals booted out.

[Joe Getty]

Correct. Yeah, he'd take enormous flack from the left. I'd also demand, like walls to say a lot of these so called protesters are professional agitators. They're leftist activists. They're Marxists, they're Democratic. They want to overthrow the government. And I didn't want to say anything because there are a lot of just good, decent Minnesotans out in the street who thinks the federal Government is overreaching and blah, blah, blah. I mean, and in sympathy to some extent, with the people of Minnesota, because as a lover of liberty and a hater of government oppression, they've got, what, their entire police force is 800 cops or something like that, 600 or 800 in Minneapolis, and they have two or 3,000 ICE agents on the street now, and Border Patrol. That's an enormous influx of uniformed law enforcement that you didn't ask for, per se. Now, and I'm not making the case that they ought to get out because we've got to enforce immigration law and they are following the law. But if Waltz could say, look, there's a lot of, like, Marxist goons, antifa guys here, and let's all get together and crack down on them. But he'll never say that, man.

[Jack Armstrong]

And for our Second Amendment crowd, the idea of a guy showing up with a legal gun he's carrying legally and then having the government take that gun off his body, then shoot him in.

[Joe Getty]

The street for having a gun.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's pretty right.

[Joe Getty]

Which is not accurate, honestly. The fracas began when he decided to physically intercede with the ICE officers, pushing a woman rather forcefully away from her, interfering with their doing their jobs.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, and I know because I've seen a lot of the texts from those of you who are really big believers in your gun rights, and I'm a big believer in gun rights. But I don't need to challenge every situation with a loaded gun on me just to, you know, draw the lines bright and clear. Maybe you feel like that, but I ain't showing up to a hot situation like that with their gun and hoping for the best.

[Joe Getty]

Good Lord God.

[Jack Armstrong]

You get in there and you got a loaded gun in your pants and you're pushing and shoving with cops. Doesn't seem like a good idea.

[Joe Getty]

It's definitely a long shot. Everything's fine outcome, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

Meanwhile, on the Internet, you've got Melinda, who is a nurse at or was a nurse at Virginia Commonwealth University and Duke University, suggesting how to deal with ICE agents.

[Activist Caller]

I thought of something good stuff in the weirdest sabotage tactic, or at least scare tactic. All the medical providers grab some syringes with needles on the end, have them full of saline or succinylcholine, you know, whatever, whatever.

[News Reporter]

That will probably be a deterrent.

[Activist Caller]

Okay, for today's resistance tip, I vote. Anybody got any poison ivy, Poison oak in their yard? Get some of that up with gloves, obviously. Get it in some water, like a gallon of water. Get some. Get the poison IV oak water, and I'm gonna put it into a water gun. Aim for name, for faces. Hands. All right, the single ladies where these ICE guys are going, have a chance to do something, you know, not without risk, but could help the cause for sure. Get on Tinder, get on Hinge, Find these guys.

[Jack Armstrong]

They're around.

[Activist Caller]

They're a nice agent. Bring some Ex Lax and put it in their drinks. Get them sick, you know, nobody's gonna die. Just enough to incapacitate them. Get them off the street for the next day, highly easily. Denia, you know, you could get sick, too. Won't eat there again.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, so the first drug she mentioned is a temporary paralyzing agent. She thinks you ought to bring in a syringe and jab ICE officers or spray them in the face with poison ivy.

[Jack Armstrong]

But just who thinks this way? Whose mind goes there? And then the whole resistance thing, there is a layer of just the resistance to anything.

[Joe Getty]

Trump. Trump.

[Jack Armstrong]

That has existed now for 15 years.

[Joe Getty]

Or, you know, I heard one activist say there's no point in talking. It was actually a former MSNBC host saying there's no point in talking to Republicans because they're all racist, fascist white supremacists.

[Jack Armstrong]

So we got a whole bunch of text over what we just talked about. If you didn't hear it, get the podcast. Armstrong and Giddy on demand. Why can't you two fascist stooges say Alex Preddy's name?

[Joe Getty]

What?

[Jack Armstrong]

Cowards. I've never quite understood the say her name thing. I. I wasn't avoiding saying the guys. What? What does it. In what way does it make it better for anybody if I say his name versus the guy that got shot? I don't. I've never understood that old thing, but.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it humanizes a person. I don't see any need to respond.

[Jack Armstrong]

To that, though, right?

[Joe Getty]

Fascist Coward. You had me at fascist.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, the reason I brought it up is I don't secret plot. I'll just speak for myself of something that I'm trying to sneak by you or whatever.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, I do. I've got a plot. The Bilderberg Group.

[Jack Armstrong]

Lots of texts. I can't speak for Minnesota law, but I have a concealed carry license in California. And you have a duty to retreat, not carry a weapon and go towards danger to where you may have to use a gun. I don't know anything about that. In Minneapolis, but that's interesting. For California. The second a gun carrier is getting physical with law enforcement, their gun privileges are revoked according to the law.

[Joe Getty]

Well, that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Then you get to the ongoing battle of who shoved who first. And there are strong opinions on that. If the policeman shoved you first and then automatically your right to carry a gun goes away because he shoved you first, obviously that would be a problem. But if dude shoved cops first, then you're in a different situation. The long and short of all the texts would be not trying to sneak anything by you or shade anything in any different way. Just the way I see things.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's difficult figuring out who's a troll and who's just so swept up in the all. Everybody's got a narrative. It's one or the other.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would say this.

[Joe Getty]

There are no honest brokers.

[Jack Armstrong]

Interesting for our audience. Mostly super anti ice. They shouldn't be there in the first place texts. Which is surprising for.

[Joe Getty]

Are the leftists targeting us with some sort of text attack? Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I appreciate you listening to the show. I'm surprised you can put up with it. If you feel like immigration law should not be enforced under any circumstances. That's interesting to me. If you missed a segment, as I said, get the podcast. Armstrong and Getty on demand.

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So, quick quiz. Who is our greatest geopolitical foe? That's right. Tim Waltz is the answer. No, no. It's funny how domestic headlines can distract us sometimes from the big, big, big stories, which is of course our rivalry with China, which hasn't paused even for a moment. It's time to take a look inside the China cabinet.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Don't trust China. We don't.

[Joe Getty]

China is indeed a hole. Thank you, sir. I got a picture The. I picture the communist Chinese, the leadership, Xi Jinping. Sometimes thinking man, those Americans are easily distracted. We're bent on taking over the world. And you know, I'm here in my lair plotting their overthrow and they're in a Twitter flame war with Tim Waltz. These are not superpower.

[Jack Armstrong]

So that was a very heavy last segment.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, I did. Well, we are already inside the China cabinet, just so you know.

[Jack Armstrong]

But I wanted to tease something that I want to tell you about that TV show on Netflix. If you haven't seen it, about the guy climbing the skyscraper. Gonna get to that next segment. It's worth watching.

[Joe Getty]

Okay. All right. Super. So headline number one. US trading partners, feeling burned by an unpredictable and transactional White House, are reassessing China and a drive to lessen their long standing reliance on America. And they of course, quote cute little Canadian Prime Minister Carney, who's trying to. Well, speaking of live action role playing, he's larping. I'm the leader of a world power and I love Canada and I love the Canadian people and I value their friendship, blah, blah, blah. But the idea of Mark Carney, who has no weight, throwing his weight around is kind of silly. But he announced a sharp cut in Canada's levies on Chinese made electric vehicles and touted a new strategic partnership with China. Much like the partnership between a 200 pound woman and her purse dog, Mark. See, that's the problem. You aren't anything close to an equal with China. And Speaking of the EVs, I saw this headline, Chinese EVs Blow Past Tesla and tariffs en route to global rain. Us, European and Mexico are trying somehow to quash accelerating demand for China's hottest electric vehicles. But the quality is so high for the price well, that they're making huge inroads.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you think that's important though. Do you think having the best electric car is important? I'm not sure it is. People. People aren't buying them right now.

[Joe Getty]

In Europe they are.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, but I don't know if that's a fair comparison. Europe, they make it so incredibly expensive to, to drive a gas powered car on purpose. I mean they've got all kinds of policies in place to drive you into electric cars. Unless we're going to do that in the United States, I just, I don't know if we're ever going to.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I think you're missing the point. Our allies are all signing these big trade deals with China and easing tariffs and stuff. And China's EV production and sales are going wild and crushing everybody else. Partly because, you know, industry is so heavily subsidized in China, at least long enough to get it up and going. But Europe especially is going for Chinese cars like crazy. And the quality for the price really is quite amazing. But again, a lot of it's the government fix is in. And then we mentioned earlier and I was digging more into the Democratic Socialists of America seeking and gaining ties with the Chinese Communist government. Here's a meeting, October 8th of last year. The China Working Group of the DSA's International Committee, quote, China wants to interface with the DSA. If we develop a killer two week itinerary, hire locals and develop further connections with the ccp, then we're golden. Has there ever been. I mean, you used to do this secretly during the Cold War, right? Because you didn't dare be seen openly saying, hey, we gotta get in league with the Chinese Communist Party and do their work in America. Well, stunning.

[Jack Armstrong]

I. This whole narrative of Trump has pushed our European allies into the arms of China. Just seems so weird to me. The New York Times actually wrote the other day, Europe and China are in some ways natural allies. In an era when the United States has opted for nationalist brio, both remain officially committed to the concept of a rules based international trade. China is committed to rules based international trade and that's why Europe's going to get in bed with them. According to the New York Times.

[Joe Getty]

That is a bizarre statement.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know Both affirm the scientific reality of climate change while mobilizing investment and know how to combat it.

[Joe Getty]

Excuse me, pardon me. Wait a minute.

[Jack Armstrong]

What's your example of China caring about because they say the words? How about you look at what they're doing? Which is nothing.

[Joe Getty]

Their coal production and CO2 emissions have skyrocketed in the last five years. They've skyrocketed?

[Jack Armstrong]

How crazy crazy is that?

[Joe Getty]

Wow, that's in the New York Times?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. China and, and Europe, natural allies as opposed to the United States.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

What? Don't trust China.

[Joe Getty]

Well, so little. Mark Carney in China, or, I'm sorry, in Canada, are essentially saying to their husband, you know, I asked you to do the dishes, and you didn't, so I'm going to go out with a murderer. Rapist.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, right, exactly.

[Joe Getty]

Seriously, Trump's being a bit of a dick with the tariffs. I have a feeling the court's about to set him straight. And so you're gonna go with China anyway, All of this. And I do want to talk more about the. The Democratic Socialists of America, who are an incredible Marxist force for evil in the United States. Evil, Evil, evil. They hate this country. But we haven't gotten this. Gotten to this. This week, China's top general and a few others have been booted out. Xi Jinping has made these wild claims about how they gave nuclear secrets to Americ. And they're guilty of, I think, corruption. And that's the usual bribery and corruption and giving the Great Satan America their nuclear secrets. So a big shakeup at the very top of the Chinese military.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, is that just classic Stalin? Every once in a while, you get rid of the people at the top of the military in case they're plotting against you?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's got to be. I mean, it's straight. It's Dictator 101 stuff that every so often, you purge your military because that's the only real threat to your hegemony. But it shocks me that a system as well developed and solid as the Chinese Communist Party would feel the need to do that, especially at a time and if you're familiar at all with the history of the Soviet Union. Stalin purged all of his generals right before Adolf decided to march on Russia. And they had a terrible, terrible problem because their. Their leadership corps had been gutted. So I'm a little surprised and intrigued that Xi Jinping would. Would do this right now. Uh, people familiar with the internal briefing of the Communist Party. Boy, it's cool. We have sources in there, said Zhang. That's the top general, guys. Under investigation for allegedly forming political cliques. A phrase describing efforts to build networks of influence that undermine party unity. To Jack's point.

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[Joe Getty]

So.

[Jack Armstrong]

China's Gonna take Taiwan at some point. And got to see a lot of Taiwan last night on that Netflix special about that dude who climbed that super tall building there in the capital in Taipei. Now, I, I didn't know it was live on Netflix over the weekend. I missed that, that part of the story somehow. I just saw some of the highlights of him getting to the top and everything like that. Did you know it was a Netflix special over? I did not. But anyway, it was on live. It was a two hour show, and they started to the very beginning interviewing the dude before he climbed it and talking to his wife and about the building and this and that. And they had, you know, an anchor and a color person to do the whole thing. And it was, it was live the whole time. Yes. Katie, you knew this. I guess that's why you were announcing the. The fact that they had a delay in case he fell, right? Yeah, but I, I didn't realize it was aired. Aired live on. On. On Netflix.

[Joe Getty]

Anywho, I hope they interviewed his insurance agent. So his policies totally paid up, huh? All right, that's a good thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

They got into a lot of stuff that was actually pretty interesting. He's got little kids. But the, the nonchalant way he started that climb is amazing as he just. He was in there in the van, parked there at the base of the building and talking to his wife in the mirror. Well, let's get started. And he's just. He walks over and he changes his shoes and he puts on this little harness with a bag of whatever that powder is. He puts on his hand so he doesn't slip, and he starts climbing the building. He just walks over there and starts coming. I mean, I looked at that building like you look at any building, and I think, I can't even imagine where you would start to try to get a foot off the ground here. I mean, because it just, you know how a building is. It's just straight walls and corners and slippery stuff.

[Joe Getty]

And the fact that it's doable is astounding. As you're talking about the fact that you would do that without any sort of ropes or safety gear and just, you know, slap on your climbing shoes and say, all right, honey, I'll see you in a couple hours. That's just. It's amazing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right? And they pointed out on the show, as I pointed out to my son we were watching, you know, everybody makes such a big deal about how tall this tower is, but it's. As soon as he gets to about 30ft, he's at maximum Velocity. So at that point it's as dangerous as it's going to get. And he died most likely if he fell, let alone the other story after story after story. But watching that show on my 80 inch 4k television and his buddy is as brave slash crazy adventurous as he is because his buddy is the guy who films it and is being suspended from a crane right next to him with a camera in his hand, which sounds to me about as nutty as climbing the building.

[Joe Getty]

I'm getting lightheaded again.

[Jack Armstrong]

And so you have shots the whole way up, like right next to the guy and with full perspective of how high you are, how far and everything like that and how little there is for him to grab onto. And he's standing there and he's got his toes on a ledge and his fingers just inside a crack and you can see how far up he is. And he's looking around. What's the next thing I grab for? And he grabs some tiny little thing and he swings his foot up and it kind of slips a little and you go, ah. The whole time we were watching the show and I'm like, no. Yeah. Even though we know he makes it, it's just, it was hard to watch. So we made it about halfway through. I want to watch the rest of it with my other son who wasn't available because I think he really liked to see. Because when you get to the top, that's when it gets interesting. If he saw those videos that we get the strength you would have to have to do that, let alone the. With, you know, combination of courage and nerves and everything like that. I don't know how you have the strength. And they kept talking about how tired you get by the time you get to the top. You might imagine you've done like 8,000 pull ups by the time you get up to the top and you got to do it again.

[Joe Getty]

Well, and as we all know, fatigue doesn't help physical coordination. Yeah, that's, that's amazing.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

So the main announcer on the building climb was some hottie, seemed like a sports announcer, and she did a perfectly adequate job of describing it as was happening and filling in with details. But her color commentator was some UFC fighter who seemed like a complete moron and they shouldn't have had on. The show was mockably ridiculous, but at one point she's talking about how and if you, if you saw any of the highlights over the weekend where the building flays out to where you're like leaning backwards to try to get over it. And she described the overhang and all that sort of stuff. And he said, and yeah, like, I mean, the building's now leaning away from the rest of the building and he's gonna have to reach. She said, yeah, that's what an overhang is. At one point, so hard you gotta get.

[Joe Getty]

She'd had enough.

[Jack Armstrong]

You gotta get the ponytail UFC guy out of there or toss him off the building or something. There was a giant crowd, thousands and thousands and thousands of people at the base of that thing, cheering and oohing and awing the whole time. Yeah, he would grab onto something, his legs would swing out, and it's a giant crowd would go thinking they're about to see him plummet to his death.

[Joe Getty]

Well, and as I heard him comment, it was really windy too, so that was another factor.

[Jack Armstrong]

He also appeared to be soaked in sweat, which I imagine he would be. Anyway, I highly recommend it. It's pretty entertaining.

[Joe Getty]

I think there's something wrong with his brain. I'll bet the part of your brain that tells you this is too dangerous, I shouldn't do it, just doesn't work for him.

[Jack Armstrong]

He seemed Oddly calm. Yeah, like his brain does not work like the rest of us. We got more on the waist here.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

So we were talking about that guy who climbed that really tall building over the weekend. You probably saw that on the news and Netflix special about it. I didn't see the other special free solo about him. And apparently somebody texted. Yeah, they, they talk in there about the part of his brain. The fear center of his brain basically is switched off. So like you said, his brain does not work like normal people.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I just, you know, you described him as brave and I just, I don't know, I think some people just part of their brain doesn't work normally and it enables them to do things that are incredibly dangerous. And one of the dangerous parts of doing something dangerous is you get so freaked out you can't function.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, right. He doesn't have that problem. Clearly.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. It's amazing. It's interesting. Anyway, so when I did the China Cabinet, I forgot to play one of my favorite parts of it that was supposed to happen. This is Gordon Chang. Very briefly, between now and the end.

[Jack Armstrong]

Of the century, China will lose probably 2/3 to 3/4 of its population. So it reports 1.4 billion. Now it'll probably be somewhere in the neighborhood of 450 million. No country has ever undergone a demographic collapse like this, not even Europe during the Black Death. So really what we're talking about is something nobody has ever seen before. And I don't think China can remain a great power when its population falls apart.

[Joe Getty]

Xi Jinping is evil, but he's no fool. And it occurred to me that is one of the reasons they are so intent on developing robots, because their entire economy, that's overstating it. A huge part of their economy is based on labor, manufacturing, and they're not gonna have any humans. So they're obsessed with developing robot aided, those dark factories they talk about. They don't even have lights. The robots don't need lights. True.

[Jack Armstrong]

So at some point, they'll be like the number one or two economy in the world. But it's a robot country.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's weird.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. All their plants, all their business facilities are going to be run by robots and AI, I guess.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then when all the people are gone, because that'll happen.

[Joe Getty]

It's like three guys making a billion dollars a minute each. What are they going to do?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, what is the competition with a country that's all robots? That's interesting.

[Joe Getty]

And what the hell's the point if you're one of those three guys, right? Speaking of AI, I thought this was really interesting. This is kind of a tech person, but as nutty and scary as AI can be, AI took control of my life. And I love was Anthropic's Claude Anthropic, whose CEO just said, none of us really knows how to control these AI systems. But this gal like. Like, gave it everything. Her schedule, her subscriptions, her bills, her everything. And says, you gotta straighten this out. And she said she loves it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, that does sound pretty good. I use Claude a lot.

[Joe Getty]

That sounds like a good idea.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. I wonder if I should do that sort of thing.

[Joe Getty]

I'm tempted. I want to dig more into it. One of the first things she did is say, all right, figure out what subscriptions I have that I'm not using. And it didn't. Right. Judy and I have been saying roughly once every three days for six weeks now. We gotta sit down and figure this out. Yes, we do. We do. We absolutely will.

[Jack Armstrong]

Just like, because I'm. I'm so bad with. Even if I put stuff on my calendar, I don't check my calendar. Maybe if I started telling Claude it. Remind me, you know, when this happens. And then they get up in the morning, Claude says, hey, hey, remember you got a meeting. 10:30. You hate this person, so get ready, or whatever.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, maybe just a mild electric shock to remind me. I mean, not enough to kill me, just enough to bring me to my knee. Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why haven't I done that yet? I'm going to do that today.

[Joe Getty]

All right, I'll tell you about it next hour.

[Jack Armstrong]

Cool. That's good stuff. I also have the Pope warning us about AI relationships.

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