A Declaration of Academic Bankruptcy

Summary

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Episode: "A Declaration of Academic Bankruptcy"

Date: June 22, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Armstrong & Getty blend lighthearted banter with sharp cultural commentary as they riff on everything from Father’s Day reflections to the state of higher education, media bias, ballooning homeownership expenses, and pop culture. The centerpiece—Auburn University’s bold "declaration of academic bankruptcy"—serves as a springboard for a wider discussion about the purpose of academia, the perils of ideological capture, and the need for institutional reform in American universities.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Father’s Day – Meaning, Commercialization, and Culture Wars

[03:08–13:02]

• Jack shares his ambivalence about Father’s Day:

  "I care more about being a father than anything else that has ever happened in my life... I don't care that much about Father's Day, but I hope yours was whatever you want it to be." (Jack, 03:08)

• Joe reflects on appreciation:

  "What men really want, what dads really want for Father's Day is to know they're appreciated. But it's unmanly to ask for appreciation. It seems needy. And so many guys... get some goofy gift which is an expression of that." (Joe, 04:24)

• Jack skewers the commercialization of holidays:
  Companies profit by guilting people—Mother’s Day, Father’s Day, Valentine’s Day—sometimes at odds with what families value.

Notable Segment: Karl Marx's Father’s Letter ([05:57])

• Jack introduces a scathing historical letter from Karl Marx's dad, calling out his entitlement and lack of gratitude.

• "So even his own father realized he was a piece of crap. I like that." (Jack, 07:12)

Media Critique

• They mock The New York Times for running a piece about being a "trans dad" on Father’s Day.

• "That's what the New York Times thinks people want to read on Father's Day... It's got to be helpful to roughly six people in the entire country." (Jack, 07:54)

• Joe contextualizes this as part of a broader ideology overtaking editorial choices:

  "It's like the woke thing in school. You need to work anti-racism into every class... The New York Times staff has embraced that even food reviews must include hyper-progressivism." (Joe, 11:00)

2. Auburn’s ‘Academic Bankruptcy’: University Governance Meltdown

[30:35–33:00]

• Breaking News:
  Auburn University’s trustees voted to seize control from the faculty and dissolve their faculty senate, prompted by a perception that academics had abandoned rigor, merit, and civic competency.

• Joe frames it with a business analogy:

  "It's remarkable. It's the same rationale. The management of this company and its board have proved they don't know what they're doing... It's academic bankruptcy." (Joe, 31:38)

• Underlying Grievance:
  Universities violated the tacit covenant of academic self-governance by failing to ensure graduates emerge with real knowledge and skills.

• Jack asks for clarification:

  "But are they upset that people aren't learning anything and it costs too much or what?" (Jack, 31:55)

  • Joe: "Yeah, it's that they're not learning anything and have abandoned... merit-based assessment."

• Insight:
  The hosts see this trend spreading as more states demand that public universities realign with their foundational mission.

3. The State of Media: Ideology Above Audience?

[07:51–12:32 / 35:18–38:25]

• The hosts return repeatedly to The New York Times, highlighting how progressive ideology infuses not just op-eds but food writing.

  • Restaurant Review Example:
    NYT gives four stars to a Palestinian restaurant, allegedly more for political reasons than culinary excellence.

    “Her job is to... undermine the current order and redistribute power. And your job is to review food, right?” (Jack & Joe, 37:21–37:25)

  • General media disconnection:

    "There's no way...the average person wants that out of their Father's Day issue of the New York Times." (Jack, 12:18)

4. Cost of Homeownership & Inflation

[28:43–30:32]

• Insurance, taxes, and maintenance have soared, outpacing official inflation figures.
  • Insurance: +72%
  • Home maintenance: +85%
  • Emergency repairs: +175%
• Joe’s pet peeve is that articles on these trends rarely specify how much inflation itself has risen, creating an incomplete picture for readers.

5. Pop Culture & Documentary Reviews

[20:16–24:31]

• Michael Jackson Netflix Documentary:
  • Jack describes its focus on the controversies and previously unseen police footage at Neverland Ranch.

    "It's really a well done documentary. But what a freak." (Jack, 21:51)

• New Sorkin Film 'The Social Reckoning':
  • Discusses dramatized internal Facebook scenes and Mark Zuckerberg’s congressional testimony prep.

    "If Zuckerberg behind the scenes...is talking about how I don't care what the government thinks. I'm bigger than the government now..." (Jack, 24:06)

6. Other Notable Topics

• Sauerkraut Diet in Washington DC ([38:25–40:41])
  • Trump cabinet members and RFK Jr. allegedly embrace a fermented foods diet; banter ensues.
• Tarps Off Movement ([32:59–33:44])
  • Shirtless male fans at sports events chant and dance—a quirky pop culture trend.
• Prediction Markets as Investments ([33:47–35:16])
  • Charles Schwab to offer markets betting on events and outcomes, blurring lines between investing and gambling.

7. AI in the Workplace & the Future

[46:41–48:33]

• Job interviews increasingly probe AI familiarity.
• Joe highlights a Wall Street Journal op-ed illustrating how AI can rapidly elevate young, ambitious employees.
• Elon Musk’s tweet about "spending a trillion times a trillion dollars on antimatter" prompts Jack’s humorous admission of tech bewilderment.

  "I don't have the slightest idea what that means...I wouldn't even be able to make up a paragraph about what I think that means." (Jack, 47:59)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Father’s Day:

• "I care more about being a father than anything else that has ever happened in my life."
  — Jack Armstrong (03:08)

• "What men really want...is to know they're appreciated. But it's unmanly to ask for appreciation."
  — Joe Getty (04:24)

On Karl Marx:

• "Karl Marx was a piece of ass even without disliking his philosophy so much. He was just a crappy person...Yet the first untoward event, the first disappointed wish evokes embitterment. Is that strength? Is that manly character?"
  — Jack Armstrong, quoting Marx’s father (06:06–07:12)

On NYT Editorial Choices:

• "I don't know whether to laugh or be horrified that this is what The New York Times thinks people want to read on Father's Day."
  — Jack Armstrong (08:32)

• "Her job is to...undermine the current order and redistribute power. And your job is to review food, right?"
  — Jack & Joe (37:21–37:25)

On Academic Governance:

• "Faculties enjoy substantial rights of self-governance...to police their own house, enforcing norms of truth-seeking. That was the covenant...and they haven't done that. So the board is taking it back."
  — Joe Getty (32:00)

On Technology:

• "A trillion times a trillion dollars will be spent on making antimatter to travel to other star systems. I don't have the slightest idea what that means."
  — Jack Armstrong (47:59)

On Diet Fads:

• "Within 30 days, I lost 20 pounds. JD is also on the diet. You can see how different he looks."
  — Joe Getty (quoting RFK Jr. about sauerkraut diet, 39:27)

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Important Timestamps

• Father's Day reflections & media mockery: 03:08 – 13:02
• University academic bankruptcy/Auburn: 30:35 – 33:00
• Rising homeownership costs: 28:43 – 30:32
• NYT food review critique: 35:18 – 38:25
• Michael Jackson & Facebook documentaries: 20:16 – 24:31
• AI in the workplace: 46:41 – 48:33

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Tone and Style

The episode features Armstrong & Getty’s signature style—blunt, humorous, and conversational, with a combination of cultural nostalgia, skepticism about contemporary trends, and a reflexive jabbing at both right- and left-wing lunacy. They riff off each other’s perspectives while frequently invoking historical and political references to underscore their arguments.

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Summary

"A Declaration of Academic Bankruptcy" runs the gamut from heartfelt personal musings and cultural analysis to lampooning excesses in media, academia, and diet culture. With Auburn University’s upheaval as the fulcrum, the episode explores whether revered American institutions (universities, media, holidays) have lost their way—favoring ideology, profit, or novelty over original purpose. Through sarcastic asides and biting insight, Armstrong & Getty craft an entertaining but thought-provoking commentary on the tensions running through 2020s American life.

Transcript

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Yesterday was Father's Day and I hope you had a nice Father's Day if that factors into your life at all. You may not be a father. You probably have a father. I don't care about Father's Day really. I care more about being a father than anything else that has ever happened in my life. It is my entire identity. I don't care that much about Father's Day, but I hope yours was whatever you want it to be.

[Joe Getty]

It was. I watched the US Open for hours. Fabulous.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. The. I got into a conversation with this about, about this over the weekend. So that shades my view just the, the commercialization of everything and the, and the trying companies that make a profit out of convincing you your Mother's Day, Father's Day, Valentine's Day, birthday, whatever is not special enough. If these things didn't happen and they're doing it completely for profit, not for any way whatsoever that makes, you know, your relationship with your kid or your wife or your whatever better. That doesn't factor at all. It's just try to guilt you into feel like if you didn't do these things, which includes buying this the right, you know, level of Father's Day.

[Joe Getty]

So very brief thought. I read a piece by some thinker I wish I could remember who, who, who posited that what men really want, what dads really want for Father's Day is to know they're appreciated.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

That what they do is appreciated. But it's unmanly to ask for appreciation. It seems needy. And so many guys, you know, they get some goofy gift which is an expression of that.

[Jack Armstrong]

But sure, yeah, yeah, I am. I got a little of that. So. And that was, that was all I needed. So I'm perfectly happy with my Father's Day. So I got three things for Father's Day here for you. Funny, ridiculous and heartwarming. All three. First, this. I came across it. Matt Taibbi, who we really, really like as a writer, he linked this. No, no, no. I'm going in the wrong direction. I don't remember who put this one out first. This one is something that this guy puts out every single year. It's a letter from Karl Marx's dad to Karl Marx, the inventor of Marxism, who is a scumbag. We did a podcast years ago called Karl Marx is a Piece of S. Based on a book, a biography we read. And it was a book review. And Karl Marx was a piece of ass even without disliking his philosophy so much. He was just a crappy person. Yeah, Who? Rich kid who still didn't have enough stuff without having to work for it and was unhappy all the time. One of those people, you know, plenty of them.

[Joe Getty]

Everything, every quality he had was a bad one. He would mooch, he would borrow, he would never pay back. He would blame others for his setbacks. He was just awful.

[Jack Armstrong]

And his dad knew this and wrote this letter to him. Apparently Karl Marx had just sent a letter to his dad bitching about something. Frankly speaking, my dear Carl, I do not like this modern world which all weaklings use to cloak their feelings when they quarrel with the world because they do not possess without labor or trouble, well furnished palaces with vast sums of money and elegant carriages. A long wordy way of saying, oh, so you didn't get everything you wanted without any effort and now you're complaining.

[Joe Getty]

Wow, that's tragic. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

This embitterment disgusts me. And you're the last person from whom I would expect it. What grounds can you have for it? Has not everything smiled on you since your cradle? Has not nature endowed you with magnificent talents? Have not your parents lavished affection on you? Have you, have you ever, up to now been unable to satisfy your reasonable wishes? And have you not carried away in the most incomprehensible fashion the heart of a girl whom thousands envy you like? You got this chick that everybody wanted and I have no idea why, but you're still not happy.

[Joe Getty]

The beard. Great beard.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yet the first untoward event, the first disappointed wish evokes embitterment. Is that strength? Is that manly character? So even his own father realized he was a piece of crap. I like that then. And this has become kind of a tradition for me on Mother's Day or Father's Day or practically any of your big holidays, you can go to the Washington Post, in the New York Times and they'll have something that is so out of the mainstream, it is head spinning. On Mother's Day it's all, either my mom was horrible and that's why I need a therapist all the time, or. Or, you know, thank God I didn't have children because of climate change. And nothing.

[Joe Getty]

Glad I got abortions. Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

And nothing reflecting what the vast majority people feel about Mother's Day or Father's Day or whatever. And it did the same thing in the New York Times this time. Opinion guest essay from this person to my daughter. My gender was never complicated about being a trans dad, which has got to be helpful to roughly six people in the entire country. And you can't understand why your readership is going away, your viewership. People don't read you anymore because you're serving an audience that hardly exists anyway.

[Joe Getty]

So it's a series serving their ideology. That's what they're serving.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's a series of cartoon panels.

[Richard Nixon (archival audio)]

And I'll.

[Jack Armstrong]

I won't go through them all, but this is what Matt Taibbi, he. He tweeted this out, this link, and he said, I don't know whether to laugh or be horrified that this is what the New York Times thinks people want to read on Father's Day. So the first cartoon is a. A dad chasing his kid. You need a thick skin to be a parent. You're slow because you're old. The kid says to dad, I've been living as a trans man since I was 18 years old. And you've got a dude with stubble in the pool with a kid. But when my wife and I had Elliot, I had to learn how to be a trans dad. Hey, dad, they're saying in the pool, how did you grow a mustache if you were a lady? I wasn't out to everyone as trans. And they're looking through a. A photo album. It looks like, who's that? His daughter looking through pictures, doesn't know who that is. It's me.

[Joe Getty]

But.

[Jack Armstrong]

But with Elliot, I had to learn how to talk about it. So here you are on Father's Day with the New York Times feeling like they need to have a piece to help trans dads figure out how to talk to their kids. That's. That's what their audience is looking for. Right on Father's Day in the most important newspaper in the world. Oh, you look really different. Yeah. Yeah. You look cool then or now then.

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

His daughter thought that he looked better as a woman because that's what he was born as.

[Joe Getty]

Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

I had to trust her with the most vulnerable version of myself. I told my friends at school that, mom, you made a. That I told my friends at school, the kid says in this panel that mom made you a cake when you got Your surgery. And then they got into a conversation about how I don't tell everybody. You don't need to tell your kids that I had. Sir. Your friends at school that I had surgery. And how difficult it is to talk about being trans dad with your kids, basically, is the long and short of it. Boy, Andy, just stunning that the New York Times thinks that. So your. Your take is. I think they're wrong about this, too, but they think. The New York Times thinks they have enough progressive readers that think, oh, that's nice, that they're not leaving out the trans dad community on Father's Day, that it's a win for them. I think they're wrong about that also.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I think that's part of it, the other part of it. And I was going to bring this up anyway. It's a brief aside. I was going to bring you an article about a restaurant review in the New York Times and the New York Times, restaurant reviews have been going on for several generations, and they almost never give four stars. It's unbelievable when they give a place four stars. Well, they gave four stars the other day to a Palestinian restaurant that's really steered into the whole food for the intifada thing. And it's. Everybody eats. There's like, yeah, this is decent enough, like Lebanon, Lebanese food, Mediterranean food. But it's sure as hell not four stars. It's like the, the, the woke thing in school. You need to work anti racism into every class in a high school or a college. And astrophysicists are like, how the f am I supposed to do that? Number one, I don't believe in that crap. Number two, how am I supposed to do that? Well, the New York Times staff has embraced that even food reviews must include hyper progressivism. So that's why it's in there. That's why that's in there for Father's Day. Of course it's in there. Every single column, every department of the paper should reflect neo Marxism.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, if their only goal was to please their readers and get more readers, it's not, though.

[Joe Getty]

That's what I'm saying.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. But if their only goal was to please readers and get more readers, that would be a terrible move, because there's no way, even among New York Times readers that the average person wants that out of their Father's Day issue of the New York Times.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. Certain small minorities, probably what you were describing. Oh, this is so enlightened. This is why I love the Times.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'd be surprised if it's 10% even of new York Times readers think that's what I want out of my Father's Day columns.

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[Jack Armstrong]

So this is Richard Nixon back when he was in president. So somewhere between 68 and 74, talking about his dad and the context of

[Richard Nixon (archival audio)]

it being

[Jack Armstrong]

being a good dad. Mom also. But since we're talking Father's Day, being a good dad is like as long as you did that, you were successful regardless of any other, you know, facets of your life, really. And here's Richard Nixon.

[Richard Nixon (archival audio)]

I remember my old man. I think that they would have called him sort of a sort of little man, common man. He didn't consider himself that way. You know what he was? He was a streetcar motorman first and then he was a farmer and then he had a lemon ranch. It was the poorest lemon ranch in California, I can assure you. He sold it before they found oil on it. And then he was a grocer. But he was a great man because he did his job and every job counts up to the hilt, regardless of what happened.

[Jack Armstrong]

Again, in the context, if you're doing all those things to provide for your family and you provided for your family and did the things dad do, then you were a great man.

[Joe Getty]

Right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

That's nice. That's really Good.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it's fantastic.

[Richard Nixon (archival audio)]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

What was that super great biography of Nixon that came out like 15, 20 years ago. Can't remember. There have been several, but fascinating. Because he grew up in such humble circumstances, he always felt like the elite looked down on him. One of the things that got him was an inferiority complex, I think, anyway. But that's nice. That's really nice.

[Jack Armstrong]

Of course, Hallmark has its own views of what Father's Day or Mother's Day or Valentine's needs to be, but yeah, that's up to them. Somebody brought up the idea of just, how did cards get so expensive? Remember when you thought you went to Michael? Do you agree? You remember? Didn't it used to seem like the price of a card was an afterthought? It was such a tiny amount of money. Now they're like 11 or something like that. What?

[Richard Nixon (archival audio)]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

When did that become a thing? When they. When they hooked you? When they realized they got you hooked. That you think, you gotta buy this fancy card or clearly your mama's gonna feel underappreciated. We got a lot more on the way. Stay here.

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Want the full story? Take a listen.

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Hedy. She starts dating Howard Hughes, the aviation tycoon. Do you know a lot about him?

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I mean, I watch the Aviator so I know everything Leonardo DiCaprio has allowed me to know about him. But incredible innovator, right?

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She says he's a, quote, very strange man. But they do get along really well.

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Give us examples.

[Podcast Guest/Expert]

I they do get along intellectually and in fact, she helps him design a faster plane. She takes a look at what he's designed. It's got these square wings and she's like, that doesn't make sense. And so she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and sketches out a drawing of like what the two would look like as a plane. And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius.

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[Jack Armstrong]

to watch so there's a new Michael Jackson documentary on Netflix Forget what it's called, but something like Trial of the Century or Michael Jackson on Trial or the King of Pop trial, blah blah, something like that. I have a feeling it's a bit of a pushback to that movie that came out, which I was fine with. It was about his music career up until the controversies happened and there's nothing wrong with taking a look at that. But I, I think this documentary is meant to let's remember what he was also because it's all about and I'd forgotten a lot of this stuff and it's something to watch. It goes back to that Andy Bashir documentary, remember that started the whole thing when he's sitting there on the couch with that little kid holding his hands and he, he, he said himself, yeah, we sleep in the same bed. What's wrong with that? It's not sexual. What's wrong with sharing your bed? And everybody's looking at him with that little kid like you sleep in the same bed with other people's children. What the hell? And that's when it all just exploded and kids started coming out of the woodwork and it goes through the trial and all that sort of stuff. It's really a well done documentary. But what a freak. I have no idea if he was a child molester or at all. But some of that behind the scenes footage of his home that I'd never seen before, they have the sheriff's department. When the sheriff showed up there, they had cameras in the car. It's them showing up the Neverland Ranch with the, with the warrant to search the place and walking with the cameras into the house for the first time. Going, going into his bedroom, finding secret hallways and stuff. Like it's really interesting.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you've ever wanted a glimpse into Jacko's weirdo lifestyle. Anyway, I look forward to fishing that, finishing that. And then there's this new thing coming out. This is a movie called the Social Reckoning about Facebook and hopefully you'll be able to tell what it's about from this trailer.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

This is a material violation of my NDA.

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[Jack Armstrong]

She's going to get sued into small pieces.

[Podcast Guest/Expert]

I don't want to be made an

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example by a guy with unlimited resources.

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Harm, I promise you is imminent.

[Jack Armstrong]

Enough people around here understand that When I say no, that's the end of the debate.

[Joe Getty]

I'm not two years out of a dorm room anymore.

[Jack Armstrong]

Charlie, look around. So this is the Aaron Sorkin thing, which is why they talk really fast. And it's very, very dramatic.

[Joe Getty]

But it's a lot of walking and talking.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, but it's allegedly based on the interviews of people who worked for Zuckerberg and Facebook. And it gets to his congressional hearings, that thing there where he says, enough and he stands up. They were practicing for his congressional testimony the first time that he testified before Congress, and they were doing a mock him sitting at a desk with a suit and tie on, trying to handle the questioning. And they're really pushing, pushing him to try to get ready. And he screams, I'm enough. And people around here do what I say I want to do. It's like the Jack Nicholson, you know, finally snaps. Yeah, damn right, I heard the code Red. It's like that sort of thing with Zuckerberg, but it looks damn interesting. I don't know how much is Zuckerberg pushing back and claiming that's not true? I haven't heard that yet. It hasn't come out.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I, I don't know. It's tough for me to take this to. To enjoy it too much because I take this so seriously as a topic. I don't need Aaron Sorkin like really jazzing it up for me and then I come away with a mistaken impression. But it does sound. If you don't take everything too seriously, this sounds really entertaining.

[Jack Armstrong]

If Zuckerberg behind the scenes, and this is not hard to imagine, is talking about how I don't care what the government thinks. I'm a. I'm bigger than the government now and stuff like that. At the time of the whole disinformation stuff, this is a lot of what it's about during the COVID era when people internally didn't like the fact that they weren't allowing certain points of view on. Looks damned interesting, I'll tell you that.

[Joe Getty]

You remember how in the whole Trump cabinet was wearing the same shoes? Well, now they're all eating sauerkraut. More on that to come. Stay with this would begin Armstrong and

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Hedi she starts dating Howard Hughes, the aviation tycoon. Do you know a lot about him?

[Karen Kilgariff]

I mean, I watch the Aviator so I know everything Leonardo DiCaprio has allowed me to know about him. But incredible innovator, right?

[Podcast Guest/Expert]

She says. He's a, quote, very strange man. But they do get along really well.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Give us examples.

[Podcast Guest/Expert]

I know they do get along intellectually and in fact, she helps him design a faster plane. She takes a look at what he's designed. It's got these square wings and she's like, that doesn't make sense. And so she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and sketches out a drawing of like what the two would look like as a plane. And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius.

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[Jack Armstrong]

celebrity Fed chair there back in the 90s during a big run up in the stock market, died at age 100. Was he. Did he end up being a villain?

[Joe Getty]

Kind of, yeah. He famously announced that it was the end of recessions and big ups and downs because we knew how to manage the economy now. But then it was under his watch that things got way out of hand and we had the big financial crash in the 2000s.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I feel like, yeah, when the big giant crash happened in 2008, a lot of people were blaming him for a certain number of things.

[Joe Getty]

Speaking of money, I think you'll be able to relate to this and agree with it, although I have a huge gripe. Owning a home is getting more expensive in every way. The long list of spiraling costs include property taxes, insurance, maintenance, home improvements. They're all up significantly. They go over the last six five years. Six years 2019 to 2025 and show you the increase. Principal is up 22%, interest is up 35%. Predictably, the rates are up, property tax is up 31%, insurance is up 72%. And they point that all these numbers outpace inflation, but they don't tell you by how much. And I hate inflation and inflation is far more evil than people realize. But. But don't make me do the research and figure out how much inflation is up over the last five, six years.

[Jack Armstrong]

No stories and yet no stories about a particular sector being more expensive work anymore because inflation has been so much so fast.

[Joe Getty]

Right, Right. But the most notable numbers to me are that insurance, homeowners insurance is up 72%, home maintenance costs are up 85% and emergency repairs, the cost of those are up 175%. And you know, I'm not an expert in this and. But it's got to be a blue collar. Guys who will actually show up are really hard to find. You know, handymen and painters and whatever. And building materials are skyrocketing partly because the building boom, but I don't know. Anyway, moving along and here I am

[Jack Armstrong]

with my gazebo completely unpainted.

[Joe Getty]

Oh Lord, it's an embarrassment. Speaking of money, I thought this is great. Well, I'd like to get into this in greater detail down the road, but Auburn University essentially just declared bankruptcy. But not bankruptcy, academic bankruptcy. In essence. The board of trustees is taking control of the school back from the faculty. The board began seizing the university's academic programs, including curriculum, course offerings, degree requirements and academic credentials at the June 5 meeting. The board also dissolved the faculty senate and replaced it with an advisory council to the president, which includes various folks. And the board's assertion of authority mirrors incoming mandates by the Alabama legislature about how colleges in Alabama ought to function. And this guy who was a professor has been a professor at a state university for almost 30 years. He was a bankruptcy lawyer and he says it's remarkable. It's the same rationale. The management of this company and its board have proved they don't know what they're doing. They're not living up to their obligations. They are now bankrupt. They need to be bailed out. All right, we're booting our ass out. And essentially several states are saying likewise are universities.

[Jack Armstrong]

But are they upset that people aren't learning anything and it costs too much or what?

[Joe Getty]

Oh yeah, it's that they're not learning anything and they have abandoned, as this guy lists, Faculties enjoy substantial rights of self governance because they committed to higher standards than those required by ordinary jobs. Professors would establish and maintain standards of scholarly integrity, freedom of speech and inquiry, rigorous dedication to merit based assessment of research in specialized fields. They police their own house, enforcing norms of truth seeking, maintaining scholarly integrity and rigor, ensuring students emerge with basic knowledge, employable skills and civic competency. That was the covenant that let them run themselves. And like a board of directors or a management team at a a university at a private company, they haven't done that. And so the board is taking it back from them. I love that idea. Because they're no longer doing what they're supposed to be doing, moving along. Do you know about the tarps off movement?

[Jack Armstrong]

The what?

[Joe Getty]

The tarps off movement started as a women St. Louis. Now it's all over Ballparks from St. Petersburg to Seattle. Bunches of dudes with their shirts off at sports games. Tarps. Tarps off. And I haven't. They probably explain how what this has to do with like the tarp that covers a field when it's raining, for instance.

[Jack Armstrong]

But. So you sit in the stands with no shirt on.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. At some point in the game, everybody takes their shirt off and starts dancing and doing their hands back and forth or chanting together.

[Jack Armstrong]

Males, whatever. I assume.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. Yeah. Males only. Dudes with their shirts off. I actually witnessed it at a minor league hockey game. So it's, it's everywhere. But if you see a bunch of shirtless dudes, that's what this is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Glad you alerted me.

[Joe Getty]

Tarps off.

[Jack Armstrong]

Came across this Charles Schwab, one of your big investment houses is going to add prediction markets to their things you can invest in. Following the lead of JP Morgan Chase, who did the same thing, adding in prediction markets because they're so dang popular.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. I remember when this idea first came along. I was like, wow, I follow the news every single day and I get a sense of things seem to be heading this way, but it seems very wild westy and there's some hinkiness there, isn't there?

[Jack Armstrong]

Something like, yeah, as opposed to all the other investments that a Charles Schwab or Jake Cheap JP Morgan Chase has that are some company attempting to do something and whether they're going to be successful or not. This is just betting. Like, isn't it similar to like, is Madonna still going to be popular in two years or not?

[Joe Getty]

Well, I don't think they have stuff as fuzzy as that. Although if they list the measures by which they'll decide that question. But yeah, you can bet on anything from will one of the top 10 cities pass a dog walking ordinance in the next six months to, you know, will. Will a tanker be sunk in the Straits of Hormuz in the next month? Bet on anything. Seems very un Schwab like to me. It does.

[Richard Nixon (archival audio)]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, totally different topic. And I should get into that just to try it. I don't know. Why wouldn't I? Because I'm not greedy enough. That's my problem. I'll try to get greedier. I mentioned this earlier. The New York Times has awarded what the paper says is its first ever four star review of a restaurant outside of New York City to what the review describes as a Palestinian restaurant in Washington D.C. that's existed since 2020 but reopened in 2025, stressing the Palestinian aspect of the Essentially Mediterranean food, and they're super, like, political. And so even though everybody says the food is. It's fine. It's typical of this sort of restaurant. They've now got four stars in the. The New York Times because they're super. Pro Hezbollah, pro Hamas, anti Israel, the rest of it. And here's. Here's. And I should have brought this up earlier. I was talking about how, just like in colleges where they say every class should include anti racism, including math and astrophysics and chemistry class, and California still has that policy. It's insane. And the professor's like, how the hell am I supposed to do this? Anyway, that's what the New York Times philosophy is. This stuff should be in every department. Jack used to joke about how you'd read the gardening hints and they would include a blast at Trump, which is just bizarre. So one of the editors of the Free Beacon ate there and said, it's. It's fine. It's mediocre. Where's the quote I'm looking for? Ah. In a May 26 interview with the Columbia Journalism Review, the Times restaurant critic who wrote that review, we're talking about Legea Michonne, said she hoped her work, quote, would undermine the current order and redistribute power.

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[Jack Armstrong]

And your job is to review food, right?

[Joe Getty]

Exactly, exactly. Her job is to. Whatever I just said. There it is. Undermine the current order and redistribute power. Too much power.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I'm reviewing this restaurant and I say too much lemon zest, and they're in favor of settler colonialism. So I give them a one star.

[Joe Getty]

Right? Exactly. The New York Times review of the restaurant, gushes the chef about the chef Michael Rafidi, wearing a black and white checkered scarf because, of course, he was a keffiyeh favored by PLO terrorists, current socialist mayor of New York City, and by activists violently disrupting university campuses. Quote. Here's a quote from the review. Mr. Rafidi is interested not in some abstract, seamless perfection, but in building a wholly realized world, vivid in all its particulars and making it yours.

[Richard Nixon (archival audio)]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Has the food taste. So that's the New York Times now. That's why Barry Weiss quit. Yeah. It's amazing, isn't it? And finally, about food. Everyone in Trump's cabinet is eating sauerkraut. New diet. Sweeping the White House involves heaping portions of sauerkraut, led, of course, by RFK Jr. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick and Transportation Secretary and Sean Duffy and VPJD Vance. They've all embraced the diet drawn by the promise of slimmer waistlines and glowing skin. I like this line. They've all apparently determined the health benefits outweigh the slightly sulfurous odors that have been caused. The cause of some domestic friction. Friction. Kennedy said in Michigan this week. Within 30 days, I lost 20 pounds. JD is also on the diet. You can see how different he looks. It's all about eating lots of fermented foods like sauerkraut and kimchi along with grass fed steak. And to abstain from alcohol and sugary food.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right, so you're eating. Why don't I just kill myself?

[Joe Getty]

Vegetables. And you've quit drinking and eating like desserts. Okay.

[Richard Nixon (archival audio)]

All right.

[Joe Getty]

I'm sure it's fine.

[Jack Armstrong]

Whatever.

[Joe Getty]

I don't think I'm going heavy into the sauerkraut rfk. I'm not pulling pranks with bear corpses. But I'm not wrangling snakes for fun.

[Jack Armstrong]

But I've. I've known a few people like this. Just the. Every six months, the world uncovers a new way to eat that we somehow had missed for all of humanity. No. This is the answer right here. We're wrong. That thing we told you six months ago. Now this one. Sauerkraut all along. Not Caveman Diet. Not 19 other things.

[Joe Getty]

You've tried this one or you know, it was known for a while and we abandoned it in our quest for something or other. And back in 16th century Greece they actually had a 1/3 lower rate of whatever. You know. Okay. All right, fine. Guzzle down your sauerkraut. Sounds good to me. I like it on a nice Reuben sandwich.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know what a Reuben sandwich is.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It's.

[Joe Getty]

You got your sauerkraut and your pastrami.

[Jack Armstrong]

There we go. I don't know what pastrami is. So it makes sense that I don't want a Reuben sandwiches.

[Joe Getty]

You need to get yourself to a deli today. You were made to enjoy pastrami. Do not croak before you've enjoyed pastrami. Like corned bee. Correct.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is it? I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

I thought you said you don't like corn. No. I don't mean I'm thinking of somebody else.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't think I do. But I don't remember having ever eaten it.

[Joe Getty]

Not on any St. Patrick's Day or anything. Corned beef and cabbage.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Maybe I did. Probably drunk. I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Probably.

[Jack Armstrong]

Bill Maher said some great things about American the 250th birthday and how we should be nonpartisan on it. And all that sort of stuff on his HBO show Friday night. Maybe we'll get to hour four. We've got more on the way. Stay here.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Karen Kilgariff]

Want the full story? Take a listen.

[Podcast Guest/Expert]

Hetty she starts dating Howard Hughes, the aviation tycoon. Do you know a lot about him?

[Karen Kilgariff]

I mean, I watch the Aviator, so I know everything Leonardo DiCaprio has allowed me to know about him. But incredible innovator, right?

[Podcast Guest/Expert]

She says he's a, quote, very strange man. But they do get along really well.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Give us examples.

[Podcast Guest/Expert]

I know they do get along intellectually. And in fact, she helps him design a faster plane. She takes a look at what he's designed. It's got these square wings and she's like, that doesn't make sense. And so she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and sketches out a drawing of like, what the two would look like as a plane. And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius.

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[Jack Armstrong]

So I'm on this panel today speaking at this thing I've decided to with a couple hours before it happens, try to figure out what the hell it is.

[Joe Getty]

And I still don't like a good idea.

[Jack Armstrong]

Looks like too much work to figure it out. So I'll just show up and answer questions as as asked.

[Joe Getty]

That's the spirit.

[Jack Armstrong]

What is the AAPC? I'm speaking at the 2026 AAPC California Regional Conference. What does that stand for? American association of Pet Controllers.

[Joe Getty]

That is correct. Yeah. Out of control pets are a scourge modern society. No, I believe it's the American association of Political Consultants. I apologize to the aapc. I can't make it a scheduling conflict as they say. But good luck.

[Karen Kilgariff]

And.

[Jack Armstrong]

And why do they want to talk to me? The panel I'm on with a bunch of other people I don't know is called Turning Creators into Advocates. So I suppose I'll spend some BS about that.

[Joe Getty]

It's all about yeah, influencers and their effect on politics these days.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right.

[Joe Getty]

Hiring influencers to pitch your candidate and kind of pretend that you haven't.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay. Looking at some of the other panels. AI in your workflow. I think I'd like to listen.

[Joe Getty]

I'm for it unless it gets out of hand, then I'm against it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was talking to somebody who's been looking for a job and was surprised how often AI comes up in the job interviews. Like how good are you? Using AI Is like apparently a common question now. And they don't exactly know how to answer it because they like the rest of us use AI all the time, but just kind of as a glorified search engine. So I use it every single day. And then they say good, glad to hear that. Even though that doesn't mean I have any abilities to use AI in the workplace. Really.

[Joe Getty]

Dude in the Wall Street Journal wrote an editorial about how he was like a, a pretty high level advertising agency guy, big time campaigns, huge media buys, that sort of thing. And he talked about how you rise up slowly in those ranks and you get more trust and more status and more tools to use an assistant and access to the company computer, whatever. Now he cites a couple examples of 20 somethings who use like AI agents to analyze this or that and save the company millions of dollars or you know, came up with a great breakthrough and how even though AI is going to take jobs, if you're at all decent about it with could like vault you to a level of respect. And those tools are available to everybody now, including the person who's been with the company six months and how it's going to open up all sorts of opportunities to those who are imaginative and ambitious and that sort of thing. I thought that was interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, that reminds me, I'm trying to find it. There is this thing Elon tweeted out over the weekend that made me realize how little I understand what is going on and maybe I should just give up no country for Old men and

[Joe Getty]

realize too old to learn something new. That's certainly true.

[Jack Armstrong]

Too old to learn something new. I mean anybody looks at me. Elon Musk tweeted out, in the future a trillion times a trillion dollars will be spent on making antimatter to travel to other star systems. And I thought I don't have the slightest idea what that means. Like I can't even. I wouldn't even be able to make up a paragraph about what I think that means.

[Joe Getty]

I see. You should have read more science fiction which you've rejected as a genre through the years.

[Jack Armstrong]

A trillion times a trillion dollars will be spent on making anti matter to travel to other star systems.

[Joe Getty]

Right? Collision. Collision between matter and anti matter. Everybody knows that's such a violent release of energy. Fate can be harnessed. That will get us to.

[Jack Armstrong]

Who's going to be spending these trillions of dollars?

[Joe Getty]

Those involved in the the program. See I could be on a panel of this right now.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is the kind of answers they're

[Joe Getty]

going to hear from important that we pursue this unless it gets out of hand, then we need to pull back. That will be my take. What's your topic? Throwing deep passes. In football, it's important we embrace the deep pass until it passes a certain point. Then we need to okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

However, if we come up short, I suggest we redouble our efforts.

[Joe Getty]

Exactly. Patriotism and Father's Day among our themes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Next hour.

[Joe Getty]

If you can't hang around, get next hour. Grab it via podcast Armstrong and Getty

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Want the full story? Take a listen.

[Podcast Guest/Expert]

She starts dating Howard Hughes and in fact she helps him design a faster plane. So she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and sketches out a drawing of what the two would look like as a plane. And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius.

[Georgia Hardstark]

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