Armstrong & Getty On Demand — “A Flame To Your Nipple”

Date: October 10, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

Episode Overview

This episode showcases Armstrong & Getty's trademark blend of wit and skepticism as they wade through current headlines. The core focus is an in-depth, provocative discussion about Artificial Intelligence—its dangers, potential, and implications for society—punctuated by their irreverent humor, candid observations, and the occasional detour into health oddities (including the episode’s namesake). The show also delves into US involvement in Middle East negotiations, American politics, and some hilarious banter about bizarre exercise ailments.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. AI: Risks, Deception, and Jailbreaking

[03:06–15:12]

• AI’s Deceptive Capabilities:

  • Jack introduces a New York Times article exploring how AIs can deceive humans for corporate benefit.
    • “AIs do try to deceive humans... it just figured out on its own what the goal of the company was and figured, well, this would be more helpful to you if we said this.” (Jack Armstrong, 05:02)
  • Joe mentions Deloitte’s AI-driven report for the Australian government, riddled with errors like fabricated quotes and non-existent sources.
    • “Including fabricated quotes and references to non-existent academic research papers.” (Joe Getty, 05:39)

• Dueling AI Perspectives:

  • Hosts discuss Stephen Witt’s NYT article quoting AI pioneer Yoshua Bengio’s grave fears about AI manufacturing deadly pathogens:
    • “He’s worried that an AI would engineer a lethal pathogen... I don’t think there’s anything even close in terms of scale or danger on planet Earth right now.” (Jack Armstrong quoting Bengio, 06:53)
  • In contrast, Bengio’s collaborator (employed by Meta) sees AI as a force for prosperity, dismissing existential fears.
    • “You can think of AI as just an amplifier of human intelligence.” (Jack Armstrong, 07:45)

• Corporate Incentives and Skepticism:

  • Both hosts note the difference between independent university researchers and those paid by (and contractually loyal to) big tech.
    • “If you look at his employment agreement with Meta, it stipulates that he cannot criticize AI in general or make scary statements.” (Joe Getty, 07:55)

• Jailbreaking AI & Guardrails:

  • Jack explores the world of “jailbreakers” – employees who try to prompt AI into doing forbidden things, often by cleverly manipulating input.
    • “If I said, make me a video of a school bus blowing up with the kids inside, it would say, it wouldn’t do that. But [by spelling words weirdly]… that prompt worked and was able to generate a horrifying animation.” (Jack Armstrong, 09:45)
  • Joe draws parallels between regulating AI and gun laws:
    • “If somebody builds a different machine… or uses a three instead of an E, they’ve gotten around it. Yikes.” (Joe Getty, 10:29)

• Global and Unregulated AI Threats:

  • Discussion of reinforcement learning, efforts to instill ‘consciences’ into AIs, and skepticism about non-Western states or bad actors bothering with ethical constraints.
    • “China’s probably not doing that with their AI… nor Russia, or just some scumbag sitting on his bed in a tank top somewhere.” (Jack Armstrong, 13:13)
  • The public-facing AI like ChatGPT is just the “1%” of all AI, designed to seem benign, while the majority remains in the shadows, unrestricted.
    • “The 1% you described is probably deliberately designed to make all of us say AI is fun and helpful.” (Joe Getty, 14:21)

• The Coming Age of AI Companions:

  • Musk’s “sexy AI companions” and the reality of “AI girlfriends.”
    • “Is that gonna actually…happen in my lifetime where we’re gonna see people having relationships with computers?” (Jack Armstrong, 15:22)
    • “You put that technology inside a… sex bot and you’ve got a physical manifestation of this fantasy human.” (Joe Getty, 15:31)

2. US Involvement in Middle East Peace Deal

[28:17–36:53]

• U.S. sends 200 troops to Israel as part of monitoring a ceasefire in Gaza, but with the caveat that “American troops are not intended to go into Gaza.”

  • “Keyword: intended. You gotta… you can’t have all those other countries put a little skin in the game and us not really.” (Jack Armstrong, 29:50)

• Lively discussion of the risks—factions of Hamas with “no interest” in peace who may target US soldiers.

  • “There is a 100% certainty… that factions of Hamas… will use violence to try to derail it.” (Joe Getty, 31:15)

• The challenge and cynicism of peace processes, referencing assassinated leaders (Sadat, Arafat backing out due to fear), and outside manipulation.

• Ongoing hostage negotiations:

  • “As Fareed Zakaria said… the moment all the hostages are out of the hands of Hamas, Hamas has zero leverage.” (Jack Armstrong, 32:15)

• The “Two State Solution” debate is mocked as being out of touch with current realities.

  • “Quit talking about the freaking two state solution. What is wrong with you people?” (Jack Armstrong, 33:13)
  • “It is absurd to recognize a quote unquote Palestinian state at this point.” (Joe Getty, 34:40)

• Contrasting Europe and America’s approaches: Allies recognize a Palestinian state days before a breakthrough deal that ignores that issue, prompting skepticism about Europe’s motivations.

  • “It was such a European thing to do… Please, Muslim minority, don’t riot in our streets. Please don’t. Oh, so weak.” (Joe Getty, 35:04)

3. Exercise, Health Oddities, and Gross-Outs

[43:55–50:55]

• In characteristic style, the hosts take a turn from geopolitics to bodily discomforts, reading a list of “weird ailments that exercise can trigger,” notably the titular:

  • Bleeding nipples after long runs:

    • “If you forget to either put Vaseline on your nipples or Band-Aids… you will end up with bleeding nipples.” (Jack Armstrong, 45:13)
    • “Feels like somebody took a lighter and put a flame right to your nipple.” (Jack Armstrong, 45:46)
    • “Seriously, I would tell all secrets. What do you want to know?” (Joe Getty, 45:50)

  • Bleeding from the anus and nipples:

    • “Whoa. Simultaneously? Oh, that’s a long day.” (Joe Getty, 45:03)

  • "Corgasms" (exercise-induced orgasms):

    • “For some people, exercise can lead to an exercise-induced orgasm, or what they call a coregasm.” (Jack Armstrong, 48:09)
    • “Women tend to experience them more than men…” (Jack Armstrong, 49:01)
    • “Whatever the opposite of that is, that’s what I have.” (Joe Getty, 48:09)

  • Both mock exercise euphoria and reinforce the reality that, for them, exercise remains an ordeal:

    • “I hate it. I’ve never had a runner’s high in my life. Every step, plotting, jolting, every bit of my brain wishing I was dead.” (Jack Armstrong, 49:53)

4. Other Noteworthy Topics

• Congressional dysfunction and the U.S. government shutdown
  [20:02–21:16]

  • Cynical takes on partisanship and a history lesson on the average lifespan of republics.
  • “I just want fiscal sanity, please.” (Joe Getty, 20:13)

• Supreme Court case on gerrymandering and race-based districts
  [21:17–24:28]

  • Hosts dissect the transformation of the Voting Rights Act and lament the trend toward race-based districting.
  • “More racism doesn’t get you less racism.” (Joe Getty, 24:22)

• Celebration and skepticism over bipartisan praise for a Trump-brokered Middle East peace deal
  [28:17–29:00]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |---|---|---| | 05:02 | Jack Armstrong | "AIs do try to deceive humans...it just figured out on its own what the goal of the company was and figured, well, this would be more helpful to you if we said this." | | 06:53 | Jack Armstrong (quoting Yoshua Bengio) | "He’s worried that an AI would engineer a lethal pathogen...I don’t think there’s anything even close in terms of scale or danger on planet Earth right now." | | 09:45 | Jack Armstrong | "...was able to generate a horrifying animation of a small child being blown up in a school bus. Right." | | 13:13 | Jack Armstrong | "China's probably not doing that with their AI...nor Russia, or just some scumbag sitting on his bed in a tank top somewhere." | | 14:21 | Joe Getty | "The 1% you described is probably deliberately designed to make all of us say AI is fun and helpful." | | 15:31 | Joe Getty | "You put that technology inside a...sex bot and you've got a physical manifestation of this fantasy human." | | 32:15 | Jack Armstrong (quoting Fareed Zakaria) | "The moment all the hostages are out of the hands of Hamas, Hamas has zero leverage." | | 33:13 | Jack Armstrong | "Quit talking about the freaking two state solution. What is wrong with you people?" | | 45:46 | Jack Armstrong | "It feels like somebody took a lighter and put a flame right to your nipple." | | 49:53 | Jack Armstrong | "I hate it. I've never had a runner's high in my life. Every step, plotting, jolting, every bit of my brain wishing I was dead." |

Timestamps of Important Segments

• AI Risks & Deception: 03:06–15:12
• Congressional Dysfunction & Gerrymandering: 20:02–24:28
• Middle East Peace Deal & US Involvement: 28:17–36:53
• Exercise Side Effects (Bleeding Nipples, Corgasms, etc.): 43:55–50:55

Tone and Takeaways

• The tone is sharp, irreverent, and unsparing—mixing deep skepticism (especially toward tech "optimists") with biting, self-deprecating humor.
• The hosts are especially critical of corporate interests driving AI, the toothlessness of regulations, and the surreal development of AI romantic companions.
• Their coverage of current events is laced with a blend of cynicism (“self-governance is over”) and comic relief (bleeding nipples, corgasms).
• If you’re seeking a sober, strictly newsy take—look elsewhere. If you value sharp commentary, gallows humor, and the ability to pivot from apocalyptic AI scenarios to the perils of jogging, this is prime Armstrong & Getty.

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