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Unknown Speaker 1
Wow. Dude posted that on Facebook. Facebook. That's what drone missiles sound like. This guy in his apartment in Ukraine. That's what Russian drone missiles sound like. Can you imagine living like that? We. We can't as Americans.
Joe Getty
No.
Unknown Speaker 1
Just the idea that. Yeah, a drone missile, whatever that is. I don't know what that means. Do you know what that means? I mean, missiles are unmanned anyway, so.
Joe Getty
Well, right. You know, it's funny, I was thinking that very thing. I just, I think they're, they're delivered by drone anyway. To their own engines.
Unknown Speaker 1
Yeah. Can you just imagine living somewhere where you hear the hum of drones and think, okay, here comes the attack and you've grown used to the fact that there are going to be some explosions and you hope it's not you.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 1
Just insane that that can happen. But it's always been the world and always will be the world. Here's a little report on where we are on that and we'll fill in some more holes.
Joe Getty
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky got 15 minutes with President Trump this weekend at the Vatican ahead of Pope Francis funeral. And Trump now appears to be losing.
Unknown Speaker 1
Patience with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
Joe Getty
I was very disappointed that missiles were flying by Russia, but that missiles were flying. Very disappointing. As the Trump administration tries negotiating an end to the war in Ukraine, Russia continues attacking Ukrainian civilians. This weekend President Trump wrote, quote, it makes me think that maybe he doesn't want to stop the war. He's just tapping me along. Then Trump floated additional sanctions on Russia.
Unknown Speaker 1
Right. And so then Putin floats this whole three day ceasefire thing for their victory day celebrations. Zelensky says that there are still Russian missile attacks happening in Kiev and that Moscow has no interest in peace whatsoever, which is probably true. It's worked for Putin over and over again throughout, well, quite a few years now, where he claims he's going to stop or a ceasefire and he just keeps firing missiles and the idiotic media or various European countries jump at it. And then you got this. Putin and North Korea confirming for the first time yesterday that North Korean forces are fighting with Russia in its invasion in Ukraine. We already knew that, but now it's been admitted by Russia. Earlier in the day, Kim Jong Un announced the construction of a monument honoring the North Korean soldiers that have been killed in the Russia Ukraine war.
Joe Getty
Okay, great. Wow.
Unknown Speaker 1
That was shortly after Putin thanked North Korean soldiers for their heroism and fighting alongside Russian forces against Ukraine.
Joe Getty
This is all because of the threat Ukraine poses, of course, to North Korea or to Anyone.
Unknown Speaker 1
They don't. They don't pose a threat to anyone.
Joe Getty
No. On any level.
Unknown Speaker 1
South Korean officials say There are about 12,000 North Korean troops there deployed to the Kursk region. I remember at one point somebody saying, if North Korean soldiers are actually involved in the fighting and not just doing support, that would be crossing some sort of red line. Well, that was crossed a long time ago, and now everybody admits it on all sides and nothing changes.
Joe Getty
Right. This is interesting. Just as a complete aside, I just rebooted my iPhone, for instance, reasons that are not the least bit interesting. And now I'm getting power spammed by one account. I've gotten eight messages in the last 30 seconds. I hope this is not somehow dangerous. Anyway, you're moving along. Back to, yeah, I'm under attack from whatever the hell this is. So, a couple of thoughts on the Ukraine situation, a couple of correspondence, and then an interesting perspective. Something else that's happening. Russia wise. But Paolo points out, militarily, the only way Ukraine could win the war with Russia was with enough US Support. Didn't want to do that for fear of escalation. Judge that giving them enough support to win is too risky. Not in our best interests. Hard to accept, but apparently that's the case. Given that reality, continuing to support them as we have will eventually end with their losing their entire country, plus a lot more lives. If we're not willing to do what's necessary for them to win, the best we can do is help them to minimize their losses.
Unknown Speaker 1
Easier for us to say than for them.
Joe Getty
Yes. Yeah. Well, this is what I was talking about yesterday. Convincing Ukraine to come to the table is harder than Russia because Ukraine wants to fight to the death to protect their homeland. So that's why Trump is being harder on Zelensky. And I'm not saying that's right or I'm arguing in favor of it, but that's the case, I think. Right.
Unknown Speaker 1
For some reason, this popped into my head. I watched the movie Rocky with my son the other day. If you remember the original movie Rocky, toward the end, he's getting the bejesus beaten out of him. They both are. Anyway, he says to his trainer, Mickey, says, you've stopped this fight and I'll kill you. He still wanted to fight, no matter how beat up he was. That's where Ukraine is right now. They're there. You stop this fight and I'll kill you. They just want give us more stuff and we'll keep fighting. We, as you know, sovereign nation and taxpayers, we get to decide whether we want to arm them or not. I think it's a good idea. Some of you don't.
Joe Getty
Matt points out he. Well, he says now, I preface this, I'm an armchair foreign policy observer, if even that. Although, you know, Matt, if you're a man of logic and reasonable intelligence, most foreign policy does come fairly simple motivations. So, you know, feel free to weigh in. As much as the deal Trump proposed to Russia and Ukraine makes no sense to me in terms not only of fairness, but even the optics, I feel like the administration has two things in mind. One thing is that it may be a matter of attempting to soothe the beast, to not go for total conquest. Back to Paolo's point. And that's if he honors the agreements and doesn't decide to continue. That's a huge if with Putin. As much as I don't like it and don't agree with how he's handling it, I think Trump wants to avoid further military and monetary involvement in this war. Then he gets to his bigger point. I think Trump is aware of what may be on the horizon with China and would rather save his capital for what may come from that. Maybe that's why the tariffs, too. He wants to begin the steps to bring manufacturing back so he can be ready for, you know, when the great severing with China occurs. Just to summarize his thoughts, I would, if. If there is a whole of administration understanding that conflict with China, be it merely diplomatic and economic or maybe trade and ordinance or whatever it is, that is the one thing we must be ready for. What are lesser priorities that are detracting from our ability to get ready for China? Yeah, here is the list.
Unknown Speaker 1
As I was listening to some really smart people talk about Trump's foreign policy vision and, you know, whether he has one or not or a worldview or not, and they seem to settle on this, and this makes sense to me, I don't know that it's a good idea, but this makes sense to me that this is the way he sees the world. Look, Taiwan is right next to China. Of course China's going to take Taiwan. Ukraine's next to Russia. And they want it more than the rest of the world wants to stop him. Of course they're going to take it. Canada should be ours. Greenland should be ours. That's the way he sees the world. And kind of an old timey, just.
Joe Getty
Like superpower spheres of influence, as they say in the business. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 1
Just very on the ground reality sort of way.
Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah.
Unknown Speaker 1
And that might be the way he.
Joe Getty
Looks at Seems to be, yeah. Yeah. I would love to know what he said in that private meeting with Zelinsky the other day as we were discussing. And then finally this I found very, very interesting. Thomas Grove writing in the journal. With President Trump and many other world leaders preoccupied with war in Ukraine, Europeans are growing alarmed about what the Russian army has been doing much more quietly along other stretches of its borders with Europe. Someone hundred miles east of its border with Finland, in the Russian city of unpronounceable, military engineers are expanding army bases where the Kremlin plans to put a new army headquarters to overse tens of thousands of troops over the next several years. Those soldiers, many now serving on the front lines in Ukraine, are intended to be the backbone of a Russian military preparing to face off with NATO, according to Western military and intelligence officials.
Unknown Speaker 1
Do you think actually believes NATO would preemptively attack him? I mean, because that's what a lot of you say. Ukraine started this war. Talk of being in NATO and we put NATO right on their doorstep and that blah, blah, blah. Does Putin think NATO's going to attack him out of nowhere?
Joe Getty
I think you know more about this than I do, but I know that through the years, through the centuries, there has been a certain paranoia that's run through Russian defense and just their leadership because they don't have natural barriers to invasion.
Unknown Speaker 1
Right. But in the modern world, NATO's never going to just preemptively invade Russia.
Joe Getty
No.
Unknown Speaker 1
Doesn't matter whether that's true or not. If he believes it's true, I guess.
Joe Getty
I wouldn't think so. So they get in the way of the. I'm sorry. Into the fact that Finland has joined NATO and, and there are a couple more examples. But yeah, the Russians are definitely projecting some of their power toward Europe in a defensive slash, saber rattling way, which has the Euros somewhat on edge.
Unknown Speaker 1
There you go. Freaking those, you know, the, the, the, the saddest people on earth might be those poor North Korean soldiers. You got the miserable life back home in your country with your family starving and to try to help them out in some way or because you got a gun that pointed at your head, more or less. There you are in Russia. You probably don't even. Couldn't even put it on a map. You had no schooling. You slightest idea where you are, what you're doing, dying for, for Putin and whatever he's. Good lord.
Joe Getty
So maybe your family gets a few shekels. So when you get killed back home. Yeah, just miserable, miserable existence. Yuck.
Unknown Speaker 1
You know what this is?
Joe Getty
Here's a tip for you, young listener. What's that, Mike Jackson?
Unknown Speaker 1
I'll do my tease after you say this.
Joe Getty
Okay, what was I going to say? Oh, for you young folks, it is possible there will be another period of peace and prosperity on the in the world. Won't last long, but we would urge you when that moment comes, to remember our wise old words and say to yourself, wow, this is weird and great. It's like spring vacation. It's not going to last.
Unknown Speaker 1
Yeah, based on my reading of history, it could be like 200 years before that happens again. Before it's like, you know, the 90s.
Joe Getty
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Unknown Speaker 1
I find myself wondering what the answer to the age old question is.
Joe Getty
If you pitted 100 unarmed men against a single 800 pound lowland gorilla, who would win?
Unknown Speaker 1
All right, I'm glad.
Joe Getty
According the answer according to science and artificial intelligence.
Unknown Speaker 1
Oh, okay. Among other things we got on the way so stay here.
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Joe Getty
What was the. Would you rather have a horse sized duck or a hundred duck sized horses?
Unknown Speaker 1
Something like that? Yes. Yeah, I always went with duck sized horses because I think they'd just be cuter than heck.
Joe Getty
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Unknown Speaker 1
No kidding. Whereas a horse sized duck would have you soil in your pants.
Joe Getty
Bro, put the duck back, please. The thing decided to peck. You could, you know, remove your head. Speaking of which, this guy, Mark. What's his name? He's a software and AI guy and he, he likes to pose various questions to AI and parse out the information. And one of his questions has gone slightly viral. Apparently there's a wild debate blowing up online. He says, can 100 unarmed men defeat a single gorilla in a fight? And he breaks it down step by step. First, let's take a look at the combatants, starting with the gorilla. These beasts are insanely strong. A Silverback, that's your big, mature, like lowland gorilla. And they range from 6 to like 800 lbs. To the proverbial 800 pound gorilla. They can lift. Now this guy's a Brit, so he uses kilograms, but a silverback can lift up to 1700 pounds. 1700 pounds, almost a ton.
Unknown Speaker 1
That's amazing.
Joe Getty
Run at 25 miles per hour.
Unknown Speaker 1
Wow.
Joe Getty
And has a bite force of 1300 pounds per square inch. Enough to cr bones.
Unknown Speaker 1
I have a feeling I'm gonna quibble with the result of this, but yeah.
Joe Getty
Go on, quibble away. That's what we're doing here. One swing of its arm could kill a man instantly. So the whole clothesline. A giant silverback gorilla clotheslines you. It could kill you, sever your spine, traumatic brain injury, whatever, gorillas. Gorillas are also agile and tough. They can charge fast, dodge attacks, and their thick skulls and bones make them very hard to injure. They're built for combat in a way that humans simply aren't.
Unknown Speaker 1
I believe all of this.
Joe Getty
Keep in mind, Jack, that the life of the average male gorilla is going to include a handful of fights, if not to the death. To one guy saying, I've had enough, I've had enough. You can mate with her. I'm going, I'm leaving, I'm heading off into the jungle.
Unknown Speaker 1
You can have her. I don't want her.
Joe Getty
Now let's handicap the humans. You'll be sick of her soon enough. With 100 men, they have sheer numbers, clearly. Sure, if they swarm the gorilla all at once, they might restrain it, but it's risky. Many would get seriously hurt or killed in the process.
Unknown Speaker 1
Yeah, that, that's where I'm gonna quibble after you get through this.
Joe Getty
Now we the humans have intelligence and endurance. We can plan strategies like distracting the gorilla while others attack from behind. Might even wear it down over time. But it's not easy. And without weapons, it's brutal. Humans lack natural defenses. We're soft. Speaking for myself, the gorilla could break bones or kill with a single blow. Coordination of the human team, absolutely critical. Any mistakes and it's chaos. By the way, we'll post the link to this Twitter thread because it includes AI generated videos.
Unknown Speaker 1
Oh, yes.
Joe Getty
Not the violent part, I'm sorry.
Unknown Speaker 1
Good.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Take your stinking paws off me, you damn dirty ape. So you gotta picture the fight. The gorilla charges and scatters the group. The first few men to engage would likely die fast. The rest would need to swarm and pile on without hesitation to have a shot. Even if they pin the gorilla, killing it Unarmed is tough. They'd have to suffocate it or cause massive trauma, which could take time and lead to more casualties. It would be a grim struggle to say the least. Jack?
Unknown Speaker 1
Yeah, I wouldn't want to see it because obviously the animal doesn't have a vote. And whether or not it wants to.
Joe Getty
Participate in this, we'll assume the the gorillas consented. And actually the guy points out this is not a fight anyone would want to see. So could 100 men do it? Possibly. But with heavy losses, it's a meaningless victory. At best, the gorilla is a powerhouse. Humans outmatched without weapons, the costs staggering.
Unknown Speaker 1
Wow. AI continues to benefit us all with things like this.
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Unknown Speaker 1
Ups to slash 20,000 jobs on weak Amazon deliveries over the Trump tariff thing because, you know, practically everything you order through Amazon comes through ups and they're delivering less packages. I guess there are that many fewer packages already. UPS slashing 20,000 jobs? I don't know.
Joe Getty
Yeah, UPS had severed their relationship with Amazon. I remember reading that a while back. Interestingly enough, we mentioned earlier that Amazon is going to show a tariff fee. Essentially how much of this price is the tariffs on your transactions? Coming up, What? Soonish, the White House slammed Amazon's reported plan. This is a hostile and political act by Amazon, said White House spokeslady Caroline Levitt.
Unknown Speaker 1
Political is political, obviously, and they have, you know, every right to be not in favor of the tariffs and how it affects their business is hostile. I don't know if it's hostile.
Joe Getty
Well, just to go on quoting Caroline Levitt because it's interesting. Why did Amazon do this when the Biden administration hiked inflation to the highest level in four years? It's not really a surprise because Amazon has partnered with a Chinese propaganda army. Oh shoot. Trump v. Bezos.
Unknown Speaker 1
Now I, I, I, I wouldn't mind if this caught on. Of course there'd be all kinds of fact checking that would have to occur. But I wish more gas stations in California would have a sign that says this $5.10 gallon gas you're paying for 80 cents of it is this. 60 cents of it? Is this blah, blah, blah blah blah. I would love that, you know, or yeah, it should have happened during inflation. This costs this much more because of the Inflation Reduction Act.
Joe Getty
Now we did have the pictures of a goofy looking Biden pointing at the price and saying I did this. Which is essentially the same thing. Right?
Unknown Speaker 1
That was fantastic.
Joe Getty
How has that not happened in calunicornia with Gavin Newsom's face next to gas pumps? I'm kind of surprised.
Unknown Speaker 1
I don't know. I loved that period of time though, when you go around and have the smiling bite and point.
Joe Getty
Come on, Brandon. Good times.
Unknown Speaker 1
I wanted to get this on before we get further into the 100 days of Donald Trump. So this is a person. Trump did an interview with the Atlantic, including Jeffrey Goldberg, because Trump's that kind of guy. Anywho, maybe we'll get to that a little bit later. Here's one of the Atlantic journalists cold calling Trump on his own cell phone. I don't know how he had Trump's number, but this is how it went.
Joe Getty
Hello.
Unknown Speaker 1
Right, this is Michael. Hello, is President Trump there?
Joe Getty
Who's calling?
Unknown Speaker 1
This is Michael Shearer. I'm a reporter for the Atlantic.
Joe Getty
You wrote. Oh, I know who you are, Michael. I know who you are. You never write good about me, Michael. Never ever.
Unknown Speaker 1
Wow. So. So Trump, like old people, I guess, answers the phone for random numbers without somebody texting first. Those of us who are younger, we will not take a phone call unless you have warned us for a long time ahead of time and we know exactly who it is because it's so scary to answer the phone, I guess, or something I don't know, short of.
Joe Getty
Spouse and best friend. Yes, we all now react with why are they calling me? I told me.
Unknown Speaker 1
Oh my God, what is this? Trump still answers the phones. Hello?
Joe Getty
Who is this?
Unknown Speaker 1
Oh yeah, I know who you are. You never say anything nice about me.
Joe Getty
Wow. Wow. So we have to. Oh, you know what you got to do. Your, your quibble about the gorilla versus the fellas. The thing we were discussing. How about I throw that 10, 100 unarmed men best an 800 pound gorilla in a fight.
Unknown Speaker 1
How about I throw that into the One More Thing podcast that we do every day after the show. You can tune in, look forward to wherever you get your podcasts.
Joe Getty
The more I think about that idea, the more I like it. Yes, yes, we, we do an additional segment that never airs on the radio and therefore sometimes there are swears. So if you're excited by that prospect. Oh, that reminds me, there's a great piece, a couple of folks have commented on this. The Democrats new strategy of swearing a lot.
Unknown Speaker 1
Yeah.
Joe Getty
We're all going to start swearing at the same time to prove how authentic and like regular people we ready begin.
Unknown Speaker 1
And reflect your anger.
Joe Getty
Right. Exactly. And it's just, it's pathetic. So we have declared aloud and repeatedly that the first 100 days, and there's generally theme music, first 100 days of the Trump administration is a completely silly and arbitrary measuring stick. It is the pseudo event.
Unknown Speaker 1
It is a pseudo event is created by the media and then they report on it like it's not something they invented. Right.
Joe Getty
It's like Black Friday, which never was what it claimed to be, ever. It's entirely made up anyway, having conceded that it is a decent enough chance to look at some of the pros and cons and ups and downs. Kim Strassel, the Wall Street Journal one of our favorite writers, very reasonable woman. She says when Trump is right, he's right and vice versa. And she points out that the opening two months of the administration were mold breaking, the policy equivalent of shock and awe. And now it is slowed somewhat, definitely. And is a little more mixed as the many, many court battles which the administration had mostly intentionally provoked are working their way through the system. You've got a little Sturman drawing at the Pentagon, although that seems to have died down. The one point she makes that I think is pretty interesting was that. And she goes through. And it's absolutely fair to do this because we've criticized Trump for some of the things he's done, the tariffs and the rest of it. But not only has the victory on the border been just astonishing and we're moving toward figuring out how to deport all the people who should not be here, which is, you know, it's not done yet, obviously, but it's an amazing victory. You got the, the Education Department holding student borrowers accountable for their debt. You've got women's sports and private spaces being protected aggressively. We haven't won all those battles, but great progress is being made. Marco Rubio has made a sweeping and overdue restructuring of the State Department. That's Kim Strauss words. Trump has slapped down the, the idiotic populist idea of a so called millionaires tax by various Repub. There's, there's a long list of stuff that, that's pretty good. But the point she made that I thought was really interesting was if you look at the first term, Trump's first term, which got him reelected, the positives of the first term, because the chaos of the first term was a, you know, it faded in time and didn't seem as bad. And B, a lot of people realized, oh, Trump didn't cause that chaos. He didn't say, hey, you know, I might be a Russian agent, let's argue about it for the next two years.
Unknown Speaker 1
Right?
Joe Getty
No, that was entirely from the left. But she says, dig under the surface. There's a common foundation to some of the missteps. Mr. Trump's first term success came largely down to his Reagan esque agenda. And it's those policies, deregulation, tax cuts, peace through strength, that still resonate best with voters. Yet his decision in recent years to draw closer to his party's new breed of uber populists and neo isolationists and to see them, excuse me, through his government is causing real backroom power struggles. A team of rivals sounds great, but absent Abe Lincoln, it usually produces a mess.
Unknown Speaker 1
That's interesting. I always wonder about that. That book, unfortunately, or fortunately, it's a fine book, but got so much attention that everybody thinks having a whole bunch of people, you know, in your staff and your work team or whatever that disagree wholeheartedly is the way to go. I'm not sure that's true.
Joe Getty
No, I think you need agreement on certain critical concepts. I mean, there was a reason Lincoln put together the cabinet that he did. Read the book, if you want to know. It wasn't like entirely high minded idealism. You know what I shall do? I shall assemble most of my opponents into the. No, he's trying to co op their, their support in their coalition, get them on his side to win the election, blah, blah, blah, and then you might.
Unknown Speaker 1
Take, it might take a genius running that to make it work out also.
Joe Getty
Yeah, perhaps one of the greatest geniuses ever to hold the office. Yeah, indeed. Yeah, You've got to agree on certain fundamental principles of domestic and foreign policy. I think the key is to have advisors who are willing to say either a, here's the weakness or risk of what I'm proposing, or a cabinet where you say, all right, Jim has come out with a really good idea. Let's take a look at the weaknesses and risks of his argument. Let's make sure we understand, understand this thing from 360 degrees as opposed to, you know, a JD Vance and a Marco Rubio who might disagree violently on foreign policy. Just they might. It's difficult to tell with those two fellas.
Unknown Speaker 1
But yeah, I'm, I'm repeating some of my favorite pundits who've been saying this for years. Every president gets elected and thinks that they have a mandate for just maximum change to all different parts of the way we run our country. And it's kind of odd, if you think about it, that we would every four years need major changes in tax structure, health care, border, whatever. It is. Just seems unlikely, doesn't it?
Joe Getty
As opposed to, you know, tweaking the course of the ship of state.
Unknown Speaker 1
Right, yeah.
Joe Getty
You know, yes.
Unknown Speaker 1
I was just gonna say, I think if Trump had rolled in and, and I know he's been talking about tariffs since he was a young man, but if he'd have rolled in, secured the border and then just kind of tended, you know, other things, I think he'd still be at 55%.
Joe Getty
At the risk of various young populists writing angry emails, which I chuckle at. What would Reagan do? Is not a bad standard. Just for the big stuff of domestic policy, especially economics, I'm going to violently restructure trade in the economy. To, to bring it into conformity with what we need going forward is a great, great goal. But, but you've got to be realistic about the, the enormous amount of discontent that's going to cause and, and understand that you're going to get shellacked in a historic way in the midterms.
Unknown Speaker 1
I, I hope I'm wrong, but it's, it's possible we have no idea what discontent about this looks like and that a month from now it's going to, it'll be the only thing anybody talks about.
Joe Getty
Right. And what really bothers me about that is stuff, the good stuff that's happening is so good. I mean, so good. The awareness of the rot in the American education system.
Unknown Speaker 1
Right.
Joe Getty
Imagine if that was just cut off after two years. I mean, Trump would still have his bully pulpit, but if that progress ended, what to do about the universities, you know, what to do about elementary education that is so incredibly important. Protecting women's rights and slapping down the radical gender theory lunatics, bringing back Columbus, that's another big one, certainly. Yeah, yeah. Again, if you stay in your lane and maybe one lane on either side, enormous amounts of good can be done. If it's getting over ambitious, that's going to bring everything down.
Unknown Speaker 1
As we've said multiple times, if, if, if it turns out Mark Halpern's got his piece today, he said, don't judge any of this stuff yet. Judge, is the war between Russia and Ukraine over and settled six months from now? If in quarter four we've got strong growth in this country, then judge the tariffs. Not today. I'd be perfectly happy, perfectly happy with no qualms whatsoever. Six months from now. To say, man, that was a brilliant move that really worked if it works out well. And I didn't think it worked, but I don't think it's going to. And I and I think this is going to go down as one of the historically own goals in presidential history.
Joe Getty
I hope I know you're wrong.
Unknown Speaker 1
I really want to be wrong for all kinds of reasons financially, personally, I want to be. I want to be wrong for the fact that if it is an historic own goal, the Democrats are going to win like several elections in a row over it. I don't want that to happen.
Joe Getty
Oh yeah, again, having run on immigration in the economy and hit like a towering 900 foot home run on immigration to mess up the economy would just be tragic. Yeah, let's hope not.
Unknown Speaker 1
Yeah, again I'd be happy to say I'm wrong. Any thoughts on that? Text line 415295 KFTC ARMSTRONG and GETTY.
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Unknown Speaker 1
Wow.
Joe Getty
Wow, that's unfair. But funny, I would say.
Unknown Speaker 1
So I got a weird FOMO fear of missing out thing about when, when I, when I find out this popular meme and then I read about it and I think hi, I missed that. And part of it is this job. Like I don't want to miss out on popular trends that people are talking about without bringing them to you. Uh, part of it's just fomo, I guess. But somehow I missed out on this viral video from a while back about this guy and his early morning routine that apparently has caught on. Uh, the 4am Wake up is not just for Superman CEOs anymore, says the Wall Street Journal. In a quest to be ever more productive, the morning routines of American men hit new extremes and it's about how it's become a big deal. Whether you're Disney CEO Bob Iger who starts super early in the morning, or CEO Tim Cook of Apple getting up at 4am I guess is the new thing. And I didn't know about this Ashton hall who posted a video his morning routine that involved mouth tape. Do you know what that is?
Joe Getty
Katie?
Unknown Speaker 1
What's mouth tape?
Joe Getty
You put it over your mouth when you sleep. It's supposed to force you to breathe through your nose.
Unknown Speaker 1
Which is better for you. I think my kids would discover my lifeless body if I did that. But. But.
Joe Getty
All right. And I think almighty God probably came up with a decent plan for how you ought to breathe while you're asleep. But thanks anyway.
Unknown Speaker 1
This guy, he got his mouth tape, an ice bath filled with bottled Saratoga water. Because the kind of water, cold water in your bath obviously makes a huge difference. A banana, a banana peel rubbed across his face. And most importantly, it all started for it's what?
Joe Getty
Essential oils or something.
Unknown Speaker 1
And most importantly, it all begins at 3:55am I kind of like this Sin lives late at night. According to this post that got so much attention. If you're dealing with a weak mind, bad decisions or lack of productivity, go to sleep early. You do tend to make bad decisions at night eating relationship wise.
Joe Getty
It was shortly after he took the tape off of his mouth that Benjamin Franklin said, early to bed, early to rise makes man healthy, wealthy and wise.
Unknown Speaker 1
In the days that followed that video going viral, seemingly half of the Internet, from Ed Sheeran to somebody I've never heard of posted clips parodying the Hall's routine about getting up at 4 o'clock in the morning.
Joe Getty
Anyway, that sounds entertaining.
Unknown Speaker 1
I feel like last week we were talking about how I feel like I don't feel like I know this is true. Extroverts get to like run the world and act like that's the only way to do things. Because they're extroverts. The.
Joe Getty
They're.
Unknown Speaker 1
They're loud and proud and are willing to get in your face and say it. Whereas we introverts are kind of. Yeah, I don't, I don't really like.
Joe Getty
Go ahead.
Unknown Speaker 1
So whatever. And so you get all the attention. I feel like people who are built to get up early kind of dominate that conversation. It works for you because that's the way you're built.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 1
It doesn't work for everyone and the sort of person who, who is more productive. Maybe as productive as you, but does it? Getting up later and staying up later, so.
Joe Getty
Right, exactly. But that there's no look what a hard guy I am aspect to that.
Unknown Speaker 1
Right. For some reason that is kind of interesting. I don't know why it is I get up at 10am But I don't go to sleep until 4 in the morning and I'm productive the whole day gets no attention.
Joe Getty
But yeah.
Unknown Speaker 1
You're seen as a sloth. A sloth or something like that. Yes. Well, there's nothing more manly than rubbing.
Joe Getty
A banana peel on your face or.
Unknown Speaker 1
Making sure you have Saratoga water to jump into as opposed to tap water. Good lord.
Joe Getty
Ugh. Oh my skin. My poor skin. Hand me another banana peel quickly. It's all dried or something.
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Armstrong & Getty On Demand: "A Horse Sized Duck Would Make You Crap Your Pants" – Detailed Summary
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Release Date: April 29, 2025
Podcast Description: The official, On-Demand podcast of The Armstrong & Getty Show! Accept no substitutes!
The episode kicks off with an in-depth discussion about the ongoing Russia-Ukraine war, exploring recent developments and their broader implications.
Trump's Meeting with Zelensky:
Joe Getty highlights a recent 15-minute meeting between Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and former U.S. President Donald Trump held at the Vatican ahead of Pope Francis's funeral.
Quote: "As the Trump administration tries negotiating an end to the war in Ukraine, Russia continues attacking Ukrainian civilians."
— Joe Getty [04:15]
Russia's Ceasefire Proposal & North Korea's Involvement:
The conversation shifts to Putin's attempt at proposing a three-day ceasefire for Victory Day celebrations, which Zelensky dismisses due to ongoing missile attacks.
Quote: "Zelensky says that there are still Russian missile attacks happening in Kiev and that Moscow has no interest in peace whatsoever."
— Unknown Speaker 1 [05:40]
Additionally, Joe Getty discusses North Korea's confirmed support for Russian forces in Ukraine, including the construction of new army bases near Finland.
Quote: "North Korean soldiers are deployed to the Kursk region... put tens of thousands of troops over the next several years."
— Unknown Speaker 1 [05:54]
U.S. Support Limitations for Ukraine:
The hosts debate the extent of U.S. support for Ukraine, emphasizing that insufficient aid could lead to Ukraine losing significant territory and incurring heavy casualties.
Quote: "Given that reality, continuing to support them as we have will eventually end with their losing their entire country, plus a lot more lives."
— Joe Getty [06:25]
Trump's Foreign Policy Motivations:
Joe Getty speculates that Trump's reluctance to fully support Ukraine stems from a desire to prevent escalation and redirect focus toward potential conflicts with China.
Quote: "Trump wants to begin the steps to bring manufacturing back so he can be ready for... when the great severing with China occurs."
— Joe Getty [07:29]
Russia's Military Build-Up Near Europe:
The discussion covers Russia's expansion of military bases near Finland, intended to prepare against NATO, causing unease among European nations.
Quote: "Russia is definitely projecting some of their power toward Europe in a defensive slash, saber rattling way, which has the Euros somewhat on edge."
— Unknown Speaker 1 [12:39]
Shifting from geopolitics, the hosts engage in a speculative discussion about a hypothetical fight between 100 unarmed men and a single 800-pound gorilla, incorporating insights from AI analysis.
Gorilla's Physical Advantages:
Joe Getty outlines the gorilla's immense strength and combat capabilities.
Quote: "A giant silverback gorilla clotheslines you. It could kill you, sever your spine, traumatic brain injury, whatever."
— Joe Getty [19:53]
Human Strategies and Risks:
The conversation explores potential human tactics, such as distracting the gorilla while others attack from behind, but acknowledges the high risk of casualties.
Quote: "Humans lack natural defenses. We're soft... Coordination of the human team, absolutely critical."
— Joe Getty [20:32]
Conclusion on the Hypothetical Fight:
The hosts conclude that while theoretically possible for humans to defeat the gorilla through sheer numbers, the heavy losses would render it a meaningless victory.
Quote: "Humans outmatched without weapons, the costs staggering."
— Unknown Speaker 1 [22:35]
The episode transitions to contemporary productivity trends and the viral nature of extreme morning routines.
Viral Morning Routines:
Discussion centers on Ashton Hall's viral morning routine video, which includes practices like mouth taping and ice baths, sparking debates on their efficacy and practicality.
Quote: "Early to bed, early to rise makes man healthy, wealthy and wise."
— Unknown Speaker 1 [44:14]
Contrasting Lifestyles:
The hosts reflect on societal expectations versus individual productivity preferences, noting that not everyone thrives on early rising schedules.
Quote: "People who are built to get up early kind of dominate that conversation... It doesn't work for everyone."
— Unknown Speaker 1 [46:04]
A critical analysis of President Trump's policy impacts and the media's role in shaping political narratives takes center stage.
Media-Created Narratives:
Unknown Speaker 1 critiques how the media constructs and perpetuates events like the "first 100 days" of an administration.
Quote: "It is a pseudo event created by the media and then they report on it like it's not something they invented."
— Unknown Speaker 1 [30:12]
Evaluation of Trump's First Term:
Referencing Kim Strassel of the Wall Street Journal, the hosts discuss both the successes and challenges of Trump's first term, including immigration reforms, education debt accountability, and State Department restructuring.
Quote: "Trump has slapped down the idiotic populist idea of a so-called millionaires tax by various Republicans."
— Unknown Speaker 1 [35:31]
Additionally, Joe Getty highlights internal conflicts within Trump's administration due to aligning with populist and isolationist elements.
Quote: "Trump is drawing closer to his party's new breed of uber populists and neo isolationists... causing real backroom power struggles."
— Joe Getty [34:01]
Future Policy Impact:
The discussion emphasizes the importance of evaluating policies like tariffs based on long-term outcomes rather than immediate effects.
Quote: "Judge, if the war between Russia and Ukraine is over and settled six months from now... then judge the tariffs."
— Unknown Speaker 1 [38:21]
In their closing remarks, the hosts express hopes against their own dire predictions regarding Trump's policies and their potential political repercussions.
Quote: "I really want to be wrong for all kinds of reasons financially, personally... I don't want that to happen."
— Unknown Speaker 1 [39:08]
Note: Advertisements, promotional segments, and non-content sections have been intentionally omitted to maintain focus on the episode's core discussions.