A Kick To The Balls Cures An Overbite

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: "A Kick To The Balls Cures An Overbite"

Date: February 20, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, Devin
Guests/Analysts: Mike Lyons (military analyst), Jonathan Turley, Sarah Isger, Katie the Grinder

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Episode Overview

This episode focuses on two major breaking stories: the Supreme Court's landmark decision striking down most of President Trump’s emergency tariffs, and the escalating prospect of military conflict with Iran, featuring expert analysis from military and legal minds. The hosts blend sharp political insight with their signature irreverent humor, discussing the legal, political, and military ramifications of these historic events. The show’s latter portion takes a lighter turn, riffing on bizarre dental news stories, before briefly touching on cultural values and upcoming show topics.

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Major Discussion Points & Key Insights

1. Supreme Court Strikes Down Trump’s Emergency Tariffs

[00:27–02:25, 13:10–24:45]

• Breaking News Announcement

  • The Supreme Court rules against the legality of former President Trump’s emergency tariffs, a blow to his economic policy platform.
  • Jack Armstrong [00:56]: "Supreme Court rules Trump’s emergency tariffs are illegal...so now what? I can't even imagine."

• Conservative and Liberal Reactions

  • The ruling cuts across traditional partisan lines, with many conservatives supporting the decision as a curb on executive power, while Trump loyalists decry it.
  • Jack Armstrong [13:39]: “All my conservative sources...are happy. I don’t know about Trumpy sources, but conservative as opposed to Trumpy who believe in the rule of law...are happy about this ruling.”

• Legal Details and Opinions

  • Chief Justice Roberts’ opinion clarifies that the President lacks unilateral authority to impose such tariffs; it is Congress’s domain, as it is tied to tax powers.
  • 6-3 decision with Thomas, Alito, and Kavanaugh dissenting; the opinion notes the distinction between "regulate" and "importation" (per IEPA statute).
  • Roberts' Quote [14:57], via Devin: "The President asserts the independent power to impose tariffs on imports from any country, of any product, at any rate, [and for] any amount of time. Those words cannot bear such weight."
  • Jack Armstrong [18:53]: "If Congress wanted the President to do this, it would’ve been very clear."

• Economic and Political Implications

  • Questions arise over potential refunds for tariffs already paid, economic fallout, and the impact on international trade deals.
  • The court does not address whether consumers or businesses will be reimbursed; hosts expect "a thousand lawsuits."
  • Devin [16:42]: "About a thousand lawsuits, probably significant implications for the US economy, consumers, the President’s trade policy..."

• Expert Analysis

  • Jonathan Turley [20:24]: "This was a case where the administration was at a disadvantage. IPA does not refer to tariffs...It's a critical form of revenue that is left to Congress."
  • Sarah Isger [21:59]: "This has been a Supreme Court that has been shrinking down executive power... Presidents cannot look back to old vague statutes from Congress to expand their own power. This...is a huge shift in presidential authority moving forward and probably the most important case we've seen from the Supreme Court in decades."

• Host Commentary

  • The hosts praise the ruling as a necessary limitation on presidential power—good news for constitutional governance.
  • Jack Armstrong [27:16]: "I really think this is good news. Really good news."
  • Devin [27:24]: "The restraint of executive power is good for all Americans."

• Notable Timestamps for Legal Analysis

  • [13:10-24:45]: Extended discussion and expert reactions to the ruling

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2. Looming U.S.-Iran Conflict & Military Analysis

[00:27–12:05, 27:37–28:42]

• Background

  • Tensions with Iran are at a historic high due to the largest U.S. military buildup in the region since the Gulf War, with discussions suggesting imminent aerial strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities.

• Mike Lyons (Military Analyst) on War Scenarios

  • Iran's Threat
    • Iran described as the world's top state sponsor of terrorism, responsible for more U.S. military deaths than any other country over the last half-century.
    • Iran is close to "breakout"—the ability to weaponize nuclear material.
  • U.S. Strategy
    • The likely strategy is a sustained air campaign aimed at destroying Iran's nuclear program across three stages: uranium mining, enrichment, and weaponization.
    • Ground invasion is off the table; this will be an air war.
    • Allies’ stance is unpredictable, with Saudi Arabia and UAE withholding overt support but expected to quietly approve if conflict starts.
    • Possible internal revolution in Iran mentioned: if Revolutionary Guard leadership is eliminated, younger officers may hold the future of the regime.
  • Retaliation Risks
    • Iran may launch a limited barrage of missiles at Israel or U.S. bases, but capability is limited; Israel is already in a high state of readiness.
    • Humanitarian issues in Tehran could exacerbate instability.
  • Quotable Moment
    • Jack Armstrong [07:55]: "But this is a we're gonna die situation, what the fancy people call an existential threat, as in we're gonna die if this occurs."
    • Mike Lyons [08:14]: "There’ll be this one barrage...Once it starts, though, it'll be so overwhelming on our side...But once I believe it does start, we will take out a lot of their capability."

• Host Humor and Caution

  • Speculation on logistics, international coordination, and whether Iran could or should try to “string along” negotiations.
  • Lively banter on the legal/moral question of "targeting" Iran’s Supreme Leader.

• Notable Timestamps for Iran Segment

  • [00:27-12:05]: News, live analysis, and expert commentary

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3. Bizarre Dental Stories & Human Nature

[28:48–34:28]

• Drunk Dentist News

  • A Texas dentist arrested for performing surgery while intoxicated prompts discussion on the appropriateness of sobriety in dental care (and the merits of field sobriety tests for professionals).
  • Devin [29:29]: "What's a field sobriety test for dentists? All right. Fill this cavity. Oh, hey."
  • Consensus: zero tolerance for intoxicated dentists, akin to airline pilots.

• Infamous TMJ ‘Breast Massage’ Fraud

  • Hosts recount the infamous story of a dentist who convinced patients that breast massage cured TMJ (jaw pain).
  • Dialogue highlights issues of people going along with authority figures due to shock, deference, or fear of conflict.
  • Katie the Grinder [32:16]: "There’s two problems here. One, he's a creep. Two, the women that fell for that."
  • Devin [33:08]: "Trust me, if they had to kick in the balls to cure an overbite, word would get around."

• Cultural Commentary and Societal Trust

  • Reflection on fear of conflict, herd behavior, blind trust in authority, and the enduring need for skepticism.

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4. Tangential, Light-Hearted, and Teaser Segments

[34:28–36:28]

• Quick cultural reflection on the importance of Judeo-Christian values, referencing a recent comment by Marco Rubio.
• Rapid news round-up: recap of Supreme Court and Iran stories, joking allusion to blockading Cuba, and show promotion.
• Jack Armstrong [36:00]: "Oh, I'm going to be Dennis drunk the last two hours." (a callback to earlier dentist discussion)
• Devin [36:03]: "If you can't stick around, subscribe or follow our podcast...It helps the algorithms recommend us instead of morons and or liberals who poison the minds of our youth."

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Jack Armstrong [07:55]: "What the fancy people call an existential threat, as in we're gonna die if this occurs."
• Mike Lyons [03:10]: "We took out most of the enrichment facility...but to actually make sure it goes away, we have to take out all capability in all three [stages]."
• Devin [22:36]: "This is a huge shift in presidential authority...Really putting the ball in Congress’s court."
• Jack Armstrong [27:16]: "I really think this is good news. Really good news."
• Devin [33:08]: "Trust me, if they had to kick in the balls to cure an overbite, word would get around." (Inspiration for the episode title.)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Supreme Court Tariffs Ruling: [00:27–02:25], [13:10–24:45]
• Iran War Analysis with Mike Lyons: [00:27–12:05]
• Light Segment – Dentists Gone Bad: [28:48–34:28]
• Host/Cultural Philosophy + Show Wrap: [34:28–36:28]

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Episode Tone & Style

The episode balances serious, in-depth analysis of weighty national issues—Supreme Court jurisprudence, war powers, and executive authority—with irreverent, sometimes absurdist humor, especially in the human-interest stories and host banter. While the hosts take policy and law seriously, their tone is consistently conversational, skeptical, and colloquially sharp, which makes even complex topics broadly accessible.

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For Listeners Who Haven’t Heard the Episode:

This wide-ranging episode delivers an informed, accessible breakdown of one of the most consequential Supreme Court decisions in recent memory and the potential for a new Middle East war, complemented by candid expert interviews. It then lightens up with bizarre, thought-provoking tales from the world of dentistry, concluding with reflections on American political culture. Whether your interest is law, global affairs, or societal quirks, Armstrong and Getty package it with wit and clarity—skipping nothing important, and always saying the quiet part out loud.

Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

This is an iHeart podcast, guaranteed human

[Joe Getty]

broadcasting. Live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Devin]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

We are going to talk war with Iran and our military analyst, Mike Lyon. Looking forward to it. Huge story. But we have breaking news on something also huge. This is big.

[Devin]

If we had a herd of donkeys, we would have them braying right now. The Supreme Court struck down most of President Trump's sweeping tariffs, a ruling that deals a major blow to his signature economic policy, stinging political setback and unleashing Lord knows what logistical nightmares.

[Jack Armstrong]

Supreme Court rules. Trump's emergency tariffs are in illegal.

[Donald Trump (quoted)]

This is breaking news.

[Jack Armstrong]

So now what? I can't even imagine.

[Devin]

Oh, boy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anywho,

[Devin]

welcome to the spicy times.

[Jack Armstrong]

Trump was asked yesterday about ongoing negotiations with Iran as we've got the biggest military buildup there since the Gulf War. And he said this, now is the

[Donald Trump (quoted)]

time for Iran to join us on a path that will complete what we're doing. And if they join us, that'll be great. If they don't join us, that'll be great, too, but it'll be a very different path. They cannot continue to threaten the stability of the entire region and they must make a deal or if that doesn't happen, I maybe can understand. If it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen. But bad things will happen if it doesn't.

[Mike Lyons]

The

[Jack Armstrong]

theocracy of Iran has killed more US Soldiers than any other country in the last half a century. Number one, global exporter of terror. We're supposed to be engaged in a war on terror, if I remember correctly. Number one, exporter of state sponsored terror in the world, trying to get a nuclear weapon, which almost everybody thinks would be a disaster for the planet. And yeah, now seems like a good time.

[Devin]

And finally, the strange lack of discussion of all of these things in the media and the American people in general. To discuss all of that and more, Mike Lyons, military analyst, joins us. Mike, greetings. How are you?

[Mike Lyons]

Good morning, guys. Great for having me. And you left out the greatest foreign policy failure of the United States in a Post World War II era, as Iran has impacted so many lives since, you know, since the revolution took place in 78, 79. And it's impacted my life. And I could go on and on, but looks like the time is now.

[Devin]

I was just gonna say, I'm fond of saying, Mike, that there are some problems that can't be solved. They can only be managed. But this does appear to be a moment where maybe the Iran problem could be, quote, unquote, solved. A lot of risk there too as well, no question.

[Mike Lyons]

And you know what the military targets are remain to be seen. Likely going after the nuclear capability. The first strike we took a few months ago definitely set them back, but it didn't actually take out all of their capability. You've got three stages creating a nuclear weapon. You have mining uranium ore. And the second phase is that enrichment. We took out most of the enrichment facility. And then that third phase is weaponizing. They have ballistic missile systems, so they're all part of that process. And that system there. For us to actually make sure it goes away, we have to take out all capability in all three. Now, you won't take out the drain brain. Obviously they're going to have the intellect to do this, but take away our capability of trying to create a nuclear weapon is the mission right now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, that's maybe the first stop for our missiles, but all the reporting is this is going to be a sustained campaign for weeks and look a lot more like a war than a strike, which we haven't seen for quite a while. Are you concerned about where this could go and how they could retaliate?

[Mike Lyons]

Well, I think they have one shot. I think they have capability to go after Israel, maybe some US Bases in the region that we've hardened down now over the past few weeks. Let's say 1,000 to 2,000 ballistic missiles that they could fire. Then eventually they're just, they're going to run out. They have run out. Israel has done a tremendous job over the past six months, again attriting their capability. So we've got to be concerned about that. And we'll take some losses. Commanders take losses. I'm sure Israel is likely at a full war state right now as they prepare for what could be an onslaught of ballistic missiles coming in their direction. But the upside for us is we don't have the army there, so we're not invading anytime soon. There's no troops going on the ground there. This is going to literally be an air war if it goes in that direction. And today you, you heard the president talk about Diego Garcia and Raf Fairford. Those are strategic B2 strike, you know, Stealth bombers, the ones that deliver that massive ordinance, penetrator bombs and the like. So this is the tell. I think in my perspective, I think that this is going to be an air war. And for the first time again, we don't see the army there being a participant.

[Devin]

Speaking of Diego Garcia, I believe the Brits said you can't use it. And we're getting no thanks from Saudi Arabia and the UAE and some other allies. It might be logistically a little more challenging to get our fighters refueled and that sort of thing. Is that going to be significant, you think, to the success of whatever operation?

[Mike Lyons]

Well, I think once the thing starts, I think they'll change their minds. And once it starts to go, the Saudis do not want the Iranians to have a nuclear weapon as well. And if this does happen and the intel says, and based on what Israel inside Mossad, inside the country there, that this won't be like Venezuela where they'll take out the leader. In fact, we won't target the leader. That's illegal for us to do that. But if what we know about the Revolutionary Guards, the individuals that control really the government, control everything right now that have their thumb over most of the people. There's a generational fault line that's there in any army. There is. You have the older generals and the younger privates and the captains and the majors and the colonels in between. Well, the bottom line is if there's a revolution and the older generation gets wiped out, the people are going to come after that middle and younger generation. So they could hold the key to this whole thing. This be one of these successful internal revolutions that take place once it gets started kinetically. So that's hope. A little bit of a method there. Not a method, but. But fundamentally, that's what I think the planning is saying.

[Jack Armstrong]

Washington Post. The president has publicly raised the possibility of toppling Iran's supreme leader, a longtime U.S. adversary, suggesting last week, quote, it would be the best thing that could happen. Are we going to try to take out the ayatollah?

[Mike Lyons]

I just don't think that's legal. I think we can't target him legally. We don't want other countries doing that to our president.

[Jack Armstrong]

We shouldn't and we can't it look like it's on purpose. Are we going to.

[Mike Lyons]

Yeah, yeah. We can target the outhouse next to his palace there. That would just not be a really good solution here at this point. And allowing him to leave might be the way to go, but I think the rangers have dug in. That's why there's no negotiation. I mean, here's the bottom line. From their perspective, they are close to breakout. They're close to weaponizing nuclear capability. And once they do that, now they're player in the game. That they have the deterrence that they can, that they're looking for. They could, if they weaponize one or two bombs and can fire that at Israel and destroy, you know, kill 100,000 people in downtown Tel Aviv. That's all the deterrence that they need from their perspective. And they're very close, and that's why they're trying to extend this negotiation out, talking. Hopefully they can get it done.

[Jack Armstrong]

But they have to be reacting like the Ayatollah, obviously, and leaders of the Revolutionary Guard or whatever that. But this is a we're gonna die situation, what the fancy people call an existential threat, as in we're gonna die if this occurs. So they're gonna give everything they got, aren't they?

[Mike Lyons]

Yeah, and that's likely. Like I said, there'll be this one barrage that'll come. And once it starts, though, I think it'll be so overwhelming on our side. Plus Israel. We need Israel at this juncture as well. Maybe other allies will get involved. But once I believe it does start, we will take out a lot of their capability. They humanitarian crisis that's about to happen. Tehran doesn't have enough water for its people. So the conditions are right for this revolution to take place there kinetically from the air. That, again, we haven't seen historically work before. Usually it's going to take someone inside the military there as well. The regular Iranian army, for example, will have to do something because if the Revolutionary Guards decide to shoot civilians, then it's going to be a really bad situation.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Devin]

At some point, we need to talk a little more about the actual tools of kinetic warfare in place and what it's gonna look like. But the politics of this is just so interesting to me. If I were to advise the Ayatollah and his regime right now, I would say agree to everything at the negotiation.

[Jack Armstrong]

Everything.

[Devin]

We'll start violating it next week. String it along. String it along. String it along.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is a good plan.

[Devin]

Is there any reason they wouldn't do that? Could they possibly think that they can hold off the US with arms?

[Mike Lyons]

No, I don't think they can. And that's exactly what I would do also. But they still are very brazen in what they're saying, and they seem to be still adamant about not complying. I mean, what the US Is demanding is something that they really can't accept. It's unfettered inspections. Their ballistic missile program is gone. It really breaks up the alliance. Where is the alliance? Where's the China, Russia, North Korea alliance here? China has not helped them at all. They've delivered some air defense systems over the past few months, Russia has no game that they could play right now. There's nothing. There's no way they can try to support this. North Korea is smart to stay on the sidelines here because if they start acting up again, the United States will go after them as well. So this is a good reflection of what the mission in Venezuela obviously gave the world the signal about our capability. So I think from the deterrence perspective, that's really good. But things still could go sideways and I'm sure that's what they're planning for.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is this going to be a sustained campaign of weeks?

[Mike Lyons]

I think it's going to be a sustained campaign of once they're confident they've destroyed every single Iranian target, whether that's the underground missile bases, whether that's Revolutionary Guard installations and any last standing nuclear facilities. They had about 11 of them when this whole started last June. When we first attacked, we really only went after a few of them. And so I think every single one of them will be turned to ash and we're not going to stop until the satellites show that that's the case.

[Devin]

Military analyst Mike Lyons. Mike, so interesting and so much more to say as the events develop. Can't wait to talk again. Thanks.

[Mike Lyons]

Great guys. Thanks for having me.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right.

[Devin]

Absolutely.

[Jack Armstrong]

Also, his whole it would be illegal to take out the Ayatollah Iran didn't care about. I mean, Israel doesn't care about that sort of thing. Like we're probably not going to pull it and put a bullet in the back of the head of some nuclear scientist, but Israel will.

[Devin]

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[Jack Armstrong]

I want to hear the legal analysis of the Supreme Court decision. And then what's the economic analysis of unspooling this whole thing? I can't even imagine how that will work.

[Devin]

Oh, nightmare.

[Jack Armstrong]

God, I'd say.

[Devin]

Anyway, we've got Nightmare on K Street. That's my title.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then we've also got to get to woo you.

[Devin]

Boo goo. Right?

[Jack Armstrong]

If you don't know what that means, stick around.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Jonathan Turley]

The Supreme Court ruling that President Trump's use, these emergency tariffs that he has implemented are illegal. It's the most significant economic case to reach the high court in years. Sweeping implications for the economy and of course, for presidential power. And at stake here are billions of dollars in revenue that have already been collected by the government.

[Devin]

The out of control Trump Supreme Court is what.

[Jack Armstrong]

So the thing Trump has been talking about since the 80s that the country needs to do to stop the unfair ripping us off by countries around the world, turns out it's illegal. That's something. All my conservative sources that I look to are happy. I don't know about Trumpy sources, but conservative as opposed to Trumpy who believe in the rule of law and that one man shouldn't be able to upend the economy like this. Are happy about this ruling.

[Devin]

The court holds that ieepa, that Emergency Executive Powers act, does not authorize the President to impose tariffs. It's written by the Chief Justice. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

It just occurs to me if you're, if you're gonna follow this through Twitter or cable news today, Democrats who have always wanted to use tariffs, Bernie and his crowd have always wanted to use tariffs. That crowd is gonna cheer that Trump lost. And then there's a whole bunch of people that, yes, Republicans have always been against tariffs. And the court comes in and says no to this and a whole bunch of Republicans are gonna be boo. So the scripts have really flipped there.

[Devin]

Indeed. Yeah. So Roberts wrote the decision based on two words separating by 16 others in IPA, regulate and importation. The President asserts the independent power to impose tariffs on imports from any country of any product, at any rate amount of time. Those words cannot bear such weight. It's a 6 to 3 with Thomas, Alito and Kavanaugh dissenting.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'd like to. Big fans of all I know, and they're hardcore conservatives or certainly Thomas, I would like to read, actually read, his explanation of why he thinks the President could do this.

[Devin]

The.

[Jack Armstrong]

The winning opinion decision to the power to impose tariffs is very clearly a branch of the taxing power, which is what a lot of people have been saying. It's a.

[Devin]

Tax powers is a sacred principle of conservatism.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Devin]

So I'm surprised I've got to read Thomas, Alito and Kavanaugh's dissents. But just for the record, Roberts wrote it, joined by Sotomayor, Kagan, Gorsuch, Barrett and Jackson. And then both the concurrencies and the dissents are long, dozens and dozens to hundreds of pages, which says to me, yeah, I agree with y', all, but I think you're getting this wrong, and that's not quite right and very scattered decision. So it doesn't say a thing about refunds, by the way.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, right, the refunds thing. All the people that paid, you know, X dollars more for a. A car or truck or a microwave or whatever the hell, do you get your money back? All the companies that ate a whole bunch of that or saw their sales go down because of the tariffs, do they get anything back? How does this get unspooled?

[Devin]

About a thousand lawsuits, probably significant implications for the US Economy, consumers, the president's trade policy. Trump said a loss at the Supreme Court would force the government to unwind trade deals with other countries. Correct. And potentially pay hefty refunds to importers.

[Jack Armstrong]

Boy, this is his big stick in a lot of cases, too, of what he would, you know, whether it was countries about Greenland or punishing China or whatever, it's just, okay, 100% tariff starting next week. If you don't come around and that that tool is gone.

[Devin]

Now, I have been harshly critical of that tool and the way Trump's yielded it. And like we say about a handful of different things these days, you go far enough down the road of a bad policy untangling, it's gonna be really painful. See immigration, for instance.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Devin]

In the opposite direction. I agree with a lot of what Trump's doing on that.

[Jack Armstrong]

GLAD it was 6, 3 and not 5.

[Jonathan Turley]

4.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a little helpful.

[Devin]

Or all the conservatives and all the liberals just because that makes that stupid, dishonest narrative too easy to perpetrate. We have some savvy analysts, including the great Jonathan Turley, queued up and ready to go for you next segment, trying to sort out what all this means.

[Jack Armstrong]

Boy, this is a big deal. In a couple of days before the State of the Union address, where he was gonna.

[Devin]

A couple of days before we go to war with Iran, when he was

[Jack Armstrong]

gonna go up and tout the good economy, which he's got a lot of number up, but he probably was going to credit the tariffs for the good economy and. Or maybe he still is. I don't know.

[Devin]

Probably

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

A lot of times your big Supreme Court splashy Supreme Court rulings are actually very, very complicated and misconstrued by all the coverage. I don't know that this is the case in this one. Everything I'm reading so far, it's pretty clear cut that even a dunce like me can understand why the Supreme Court said, no, you can't put tariffs in all these different countries. Call it an emergency and do it as the president with John Roberts writing, had Congress intended to convey the distinct and extraordinary power to impose tariffs, it would have done so expressly.

[Devin]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Which is very simple to understand. If Congress wanted the president to be able to do this, it would have been very clear.

[Devin]

One more key quote from the decision. The president asserts the extraordinary power to unilaterally impose tariffs of unlimited amount, duration and scope. In light of the breadth, history and constitutional context of that asserted authority, he must identify clear congressional authorization to exercise it. The chief justice wrote. Again, the dissenters were among my fave Justices Thomas Alito and Kavanaugh, interestingly enough, can't wait to read their dissents.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, that's probably 8 million pages. I'll have to have AI summarized for me, but I'm interested in that, too. There are two kinds of tariffs. One I thought maybe they'd let him slide on because you got the one kind that was every remember on Liberation Day, every country on Earth, because we have a trade imbalance with them, which is nonsensical.

[Devin]

But in some of those countries we've got a trade surplus with.

[Jack Armstrong]

But that's not an emergency.

[Devin]

No.

[Jack Armstrong]

Even if you buy the idea that has the world's biggest superpower, of course there's more trade going on one direction than the other in a lot of cases. But how do you call that emergency?

[Devin]

The other one, though, unless you're A mercantilist. Google it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Canada, Mexico and China. The one about fentanyl, I thought they might let him slide on that one, calling that an emergency. But neither. None of those kinds of tariffs. This ruling says, nope, can't do any of this.

[Devin]

Jonathan Turley with a couple of interesting takes. Let's start with 37. Michael.

[Jonathan Turley]

This is what some of us predicted. This was a case where the administration was at a disadvantage. IPA does not refer to tariffs, and tariffs are a big deal under the Constitution. It's a critical form of revenue that is left to Congress. And I thought that the administration did a terrific job in front of the Supreme Court. They could not have argued this case better, in my view. But you can't really escape that language. And right out of the bat, when that oral argument began, Chief Justice John Roberts said, this is a tax. And you could almost hear the administration gulping because that's not what they wanted the justices to take from their argument. Roberts and others clearly view this as a tax that rests with Congress.

[Jack Armstrong]

Jonathan Turley is good and he knows he's talking to the Fox audience, so I like the way he words it. I always thought that the Trump administration was at a disadvantage here. It's a nice way of saying you are wrong.

[Devin]

Yeah. And always have been. Yeah. A little more Turley now.

[Jonathan Turley]

There's a lot of Runway still for the administration. We have to really get into this opinion, into some of the weeds to see if it is perspective only. But also the administration has other tools in its toolbox. It can actually impose tariffs under other statutes. So this night is hardly over for the administration when it comes to tariffs.

[Devin]

How about the absolutely fantastic Sarah Isger?

[Sarah Isger]

This has been a Supreme Court that has really been shrinking down executive power. We saw him do this during the Biden administration with his student loan debt forgiveness. The reasoning here is nearly identical. The idea that presidents cannot look back to old vague statutes from Congress to expand their own power. This, as Devin said, is a huge shift in presidential authority moving forward and probably the most important case we've seen from the Supreme Court in decades. Really putting the ball in Congress's court. If presidents want to have these big policy initiatives, they will need to work with Congress moving forward.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's interesting that she says they're, they're reining in presidents just getting make decisions based on, you know, vaguely worded things from the past. Is that going to apply to the military stuff at some point? Because we've been doing that for a long time. Oh, where you use that authorization from 911 from way back. For anything you want to do in the world.

[Devin]

Let's table that motion, put a pin in it, circle back, et cetera, for another day. It's a big one. I would say this to my conservative brethren. Of course, conservatives are against tariffs. My Trumpy brethren, the last thing in the world we want is the presidency to become kingly. Our system protects us from that. Our ideas are better than theirs. They work better. Now. It's a fight because we're up against Academy, as they say, academia and the media and entertainment. But our ideas are better. We don't want to veer from one king to another every four years.

[Jack Armstrong]

No. And especially if we're about to head into a. You continue our populist age. Socialisty populist age of speaking to the aggrieved and getting them all whipped up and telling them why they deserve more of other people's stuff. You really don't want. Want the president to be able to just dole out student loans. You don't have to pay them. Let the rich pay them. It's the rich that took out the loans. Doesn't matter.

[Devin]

Yeah. Wow. That was a great, great episode of Jack Armstrong political theater. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Devin]

I've got to get deep into the rulings to figure out what this means, but the. There was not a word that I have seen thus far about what do we do with all the money we collected and what do we do, as you pointed out, with the people who paid it and the companies who went out of business because their materials that they had to import to manufacture in the United States were too expensive and they shut down.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. I assume there'll be some lawsuits there. The whole. All of us paid more for a tablet or a microwave or whatever. We're just out of luck. I mean, there's no way we're getting our money back, obviously, but it. No, the companies that. That went under or had to retool. How about the companies that, you know are breaking ground on plants? Because the only way you can move forward is if you make that thing here in the United States because of the whole tariff situation.

[Devin]

I suspect very strongly that most of those companies were saying that's what they were doing to please the Trump administration and Trump himself when they planned on doing it anyway. Because that's a classic maneuver in the Trump era.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sure. Yeah. You're breaking ground any day. It rained last weekend, but next weekend, that's when we're gonna break ground.

[Devin]

And anybody who said we're gonna spend $3 billion because thanks to President Trump's tariffs. We're gonna bring back American manufacturer would be a fool. Number one, it was still in the courts and everybody knew it was not an easy day for the administration. Number two, the administration's gonna be gone like it or not in a couple of years.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. No matter what. And but what about all these countries that pledged all this money to try to stay out of trouble and then he'd lower the tariffs. So you know I don't remember the numbers but they he'd announce you know I'm gonna hit China with a 50% tariff or 100% tariff or India or whoever. And then they'd pledge we're going to. We're donating. Donating. Basically $80 billion.

[Devin]

Yeah. $500 million. Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Whatever.

[Devin]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is that just never really believed I

[Devin]

was always phony anyway.

[Jack Armstrong]

So now it's extra phony.

[Devin]

Yeah. Now it's. Well it's a phony and hollow.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'll be damned. It's quite the thing separation of powers.

[Mike Lyons]

Man.

[Devin]

You gotta love it. You've got to love it. It's kept us afloat this long.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well it you got two powers. You got the executive branch which is doing plenty of good job under Republicans and Democrats of flex air power and seeing who will push back. Supreme Court doing some today. You dumb bastards still ain't seeing much out of Congress flexing their muscle.

[Devin]

You got to have muscle to flex it.

[Jack Armstrong]

They just answer to whoever is which party's got the presidency at the time

[Devin]

they just raised money on tick tock.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Devin]

That's Congress's. It's not there in the Constitution but it's implied.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well I hope, I hope most people realize that. I mean I really think this is good news. Really good news.

[Devin]

I do too. The restraint of president of executive power is good for all Americans.

[Jack Armstrong]

100% unwinding. It's going to be interesting.

[Devin]

Oh Lord. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And so you got the State of the Union address Tuesday which who cares but he's got to give get up there and give a speech and he's got the tariff thing and war. Are we going to go to war? Is he going to hold off the wordle after the State of Union address so we can. I heard the Washington.

[Devin]

Is he going to pull an Obama and browbeat the Supreme Court from the the roster. Oh, as they sit there Barobed.

[Jack Armstrong]

That'd be a good one. That'd be exciting. No, that'd be terrible entertainment value.

[Devin]

There are days I think if our country was a family I'd think it's falling apart. Probably ought to fall apart.

[Jack Armstrong]

Was I going to say, oh? Washington Post said Trump might be waiting till the Olympics are over. Do you wait till the Olympics are over to launch a war? And if so, why? Yeah.

[Devin]

Well, I mean, Russia did that with the Olympics in China.

[Jack Armstrong]

But why?

[Devin]

So they could have their party and not distract and cause controversy and the rest.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, okay, they need China. They need China's support, but we don't need Italy's. What do we care what Italy thinks?

[Devin]

We don't.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anybody have any thoughts on any of this? Text line 415295 KFTC.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Gettysburg.

[Caller]

It's definitely a very unusual case. The caller alleged that there was a dentist practicing and showing signs of intoxication. They found Kelly Buck, who did exhibit signs of intoxication, failed the field sobriety test. She was ultimately arrested for performing surgery while intoxicated and taken to the Grayson County Jail.

[Devin]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

So somebody calls the police and says, I think, think my dentist is drunk in the middle of the day. I assume because that's when dental procedures usually happen. The police come and do a field sobriety test on the dentist and say, yep, this dentist is drunk.

[Devin]

What's a field sobriety test for? Dentists. All right. Fill this cavity. Oh, hey.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hey.

[Devin]

You went outside the lines. Well.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. What's the legal limit for. People always use the legal limit for driving for everything with alcohol.

[Devin]

Right. Like there's some sort of government limitation for how drunk you can get.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Devin]

There's not.

[Jack Armstrong]

Thank God.

[Devin]

I thought this was America.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, there's all kinds of things you can perform at an adequate level. Buzzed beyond what we allow for driving?

[Devin]

Sure.

[Jack Armstrong]

Easily.

[Devin]

That's an entirely different question.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. You are not out. You are not out of control. Sitting on your own couch, blowing a 1.0 watching a football game. There's nothing wrong with that. That doesn't mean your kids are in danger or your neighbors or anything like that.

[Devin]

But it's twice the legal limit, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Devin]

Yeah.

[Jonathan Turley]

Of.

[Devin]

For what, idiot?

[Mike Lyons]

Yeah.

[Devin]

So bad, so dope.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know how. I don't know how drunk I want my dentist to be with their sharp tools, the gouger, the poker, etc. What do you know about this, Katie the Grinder?

[Katie the Grinder]

I don't know anything about it other than I don't want my dentist drunk at all.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Devin]

Yeah. Like my airline pilot. Low threshold.

[Katie the Grinder]

Yeah, just not even a.

[Devin]

Don't even sniff very low.

[Jack Armstrong]

What if it steadies their hands? Maybe they're the sort of person that you Know, quick drink a bracer and calms me down. Now I can do a good job and concentrate.

[Devin]

I famously got better at the road test after a couple of drinks. Now it degenerated quickly after that many years ago. Yeah, I hear you, Jack.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm guessing case by case, I'm guessing since a number of patients had complained and actually called the police, that it was more of a hold still, hold still. More like that.

[Devin]

It's not like they have random roadblock checkpoints for dentists. Somebody said something clearly, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

You're moving around.

[Jonathan Turley]

I'm not.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm perfectly still. You move around.

[Mike Lyons]

Wow.

[Devin]

Next hour when ambulances attack. Stay with us for that. Oh, oh, oh, that's right. There was something else I really wanted to get into to and it flitted out of my mind. What's the matter with me? Too drunk? Watching football games or something? I'll come up with it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I got another dentist story for Katie because she may not have heard this one. This happened in Woodland, California. Maybe you did report it when you were doing San Francisco radio. It was very popular around here. The dentist would convince people it was a dude. He would convince women that they had tmj. Their jaws hurt. Hurt. And that his cure for it was to massage their breasts. And he did this for years. He did this for years where he would just rub on women's boobs claiming he was carrying their dm.

[Katie the Grinder]

There's, there's two problems here. One, he's a creep. Two, the women that fell for that.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, come on. That's what we said at the time.

[Devin]

Like you'd think is the owner of a couple of breasts. You would have heard about that, you know, at some point in your life that that was legit.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, because it's pretty notable that in

[Devin]

a professional setting somebody gets to grab onto both of them. Right. You'd think word would get around that, hey, you know, if you get tmg, the tmj, the way they relieve it isn't. And women would think, geez, really?

[Donald Trump (quoted)]

Yeah.

[Katie the Grinder]

That would have been on the radar.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh yeah, yeah. And plenty of women would have thought, well, I'm only going to do that with a female dentist or whatever, not just some guy. Excuse me.

[Devin]

Trust me, if they, if they had to kick in the balls to cure like, I don't know, an overbite.

[Sarah Isger]

Yeah.

[Devin]

Word get around.

[Jack Armstrong]

Excuse me, doc, can I chat GPT this real quick? It's just finding out, having trouble, how these two things come together.

[Katie the Grinder]

I just couldn't even imagine if a dentist said that to me going, oh, okay, yeah, sure.

[Jack Armstrong]

I remember talking about this a lot at the time. And it's, it's an interesting insight into a chunk of society that will just go along with things out of fear of conflict or something, I guess.

[Mike Lyons]

Yeah.

[Devin]

Fear of conflict, fear of challenging authority. Just being so shocked. I mean, I give some leeway for. Wait a minute, what? And people are just shocked into inaction. I tend to be shocked into action. But I think that might just be genetics or something. I don't know. I, I mean, a person like you, Katie, can't even imagine thinking, well, he's the dentist. I suppose I'll let him grope me.

[Katie the Grinder]

Yeah, that. Not a chance.

[Devin]

Nephew says I have to drop my pants. I'll just submit to that as well. Right.

[Katie the Grinder]

That solves an overbite.

[Jack Armstrong]

And that wraps up our Friday segment, rogue Dentists. We'll see you next Friday with

[Devin]

gentle. Whoa. Oh, boy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hold still, hostel.

[Devin]

I am holding still, you drunk idiot. I'm getting up from this chair, taking

[Jack Armstrong]

off my smock

[Devin]

next hour. Really want to talk about this. Even if you are a hardcore atheist, Judeo Christian values are what make your life livable, productive and happy in the United States. And everybody needs to know it and say it out loud. And Marco Rubio did the other day, I want to salute him for that. And drill down a little bit into culture means everything. Culture is upstream of everything except perhaps the word of God, if you believe in God.

[Jack Armstrong]

So quickly. A couple of big things, if you haven't heard them. Supreme Court has ruled Trump can't do that whole tariff thing. The whole emergency tariff thing can't do that.

[Devin]

The out of control Trump Supreme Court caught.

[Jack Armstrong]

So that's a big one. All news organizations reporting, sources inside the White House and Pentagon saying this strike on Iran is looking almost certain and is going to be a pretty big deal. So we got that. Also, Prince Andre, you haven't even mentioned we're blockading Cuba. Right. What are we trying to get out of them?

[Devin]

We're trying to get communism out of them. The next source is, yeah, we got

[Jack Armstrong]

a bunch of good stuff coming in the next two hours. I mean, the show's only, only half over and it's been great so far and it's going to continue to be good.

[Devin]

The fact that I haven't slacked off yet is half a miracle. So stay tuned to see how the next couple hours.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, I'm going to be Dennis. I'm going to be Dennis drunk the last two hours.

[Devin]

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[Jack Armstrong]

The market's kind of liking the Supreme Court ruling, it looks like, among other things we can talk about. Coming up.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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