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Jack Armstrong
This is an iHeart podcast broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty. And finally, after finding out Stephen Colbert was canceled, Stacey Abrams posted photos from her many appearances on the show. She alluded that those were happier times when she could still fit in a chair. Oh wow. I'm not making her eat Twinkies.
Joe Getty
Wow.
Jack Armstrong
Wow. I don't appreciate your complicity in putting that on the air. Michael.
Joe Getty
He really traffics. Oh, I wanted something Colbert related because I was going to do a tease, but yeah, so you say Jack's to blame, Michael. I am.
Jack Armstrong
Go ahead. Yeah. Okay.
Joe Getty
Gutfeld really traffics and just like fat jokes or your ugly jokes or.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, very 14 year old, schoolboyish at times. Stacey Abrams, very bright guy, don't get me wrong. And his show dominates late night.
Joe Getty
But Stacy Abrams, the, the, the hero of the left. If you don't know who she was, doesn't matter, don't look it up. Was on Colbert so many times and somebody used that as a. That's because last week she tweeted out here's all the times. The fact that you were on Colbert like 15 times is proof that that show was way to the left because that she would never be on once if it was aimed at all of.
Jack Armstrong
America and way too political too. Charles C.W. cook at the National Review wrote a great takedown of how one sided and political and self serious it had become. And all right, all true, but it.
Joe Getty
Was getting good ratings compared to the other shows. So you know, I just think those shows don't work financial anymore, those big shows and they're going to go away. And a pretty big mouthpiece for the left. Maybe we can talk more about that a little bit later. Colbert went big on attacking Trump last night and we've got some of those clips. Law Firm interns entertaining on one way.
Jack Armstrong
All right, great. Law Firm intern fired after biting 10 coworkers.
Joe Getty
That is how is this should be. And this is your own story and.
Jack Armstrong
Not like it's some sort of one time biting spree. This was over the course of something. You'd think after the first six or seven somebody might say hey look, you're doing a good job. Okay, so we'll pay off that story coming up in a moment or two. Wow. I also learned thanks to my daughter some hipster slang that went completely over my head in reading the account. Couple of stories from the world of education and I had a brainstorm first of all, I think reforming American education might be my greatest jihad. A desire to help any way I we can do that personally, professionally, financially, whatever.
Joe Getty
That's a good one. You might have to narrow down your jihad. I feel like you've got a lot.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, my gosh. That's why I'm trying to structure my whole jihad day, you know, got to take care of the important jihad first. Right. Anyway, and I was thinking, I don't know whether we can have like an educational reformer of the week or something. I want to recognize the people, the schools who are doing it right, who are trying to wrest American education back from the neo Marxists and the lunatics, because there are some great schools out there and great people and great teachers who are doing their best. And, you know, I don't just want to bash the evildoers, although I will do that with great energy and enthusiasm till the day I croak. But I want to be able to support the people who are doing it right, too. So, anyway, if you want to ever nominate somebody, drop us a note. Mailbagarmstrongandgetti.com and I don't know, an all caps education reform or something, whatever. I'll keep an eye out. So, a couple of stories. First of all, school choice advocates, and we certainly are, won a big victory in President Trump's big beautiful bill, the tax mega bill. It comes with a bit of a catch. The federal government will now subsidize private school tuition via unusually generous tax credits for donations to nonprofits who do that. But governors must opt into the program and blue states may well reject it, as they are absolutely on the choke chain of the teachers unions. And so you're going to see a situation where in blue states, which frequently have a lot of the poor people in crappy schools getting no education, continuing the cycle of poverty, you're going to have those governors saying, no, no, no, no, we don't want federal money to, to enhance school choice and innovation, that sort of thing. We're turning it down. So that will be an interesting political dynamic to witness. It's, it's got some dynamics that are similar to red states turning down Obamacare, although that was for specific financial reasons, which I don't want to go over again. We did some good stuff with Craig, the Obamacare guru back in the day. Um, he was absolutely right about everything, but that was putting yourself into a financial trap, whereas this is just freeing up funds for school innovation. Anyway, it'll be interesting to see that develop. This is a headline you will not get anywhere except, you know, us or conservative media. The Biden Attorney General Merrick Garland and the White House conspired to chill local parents school board protests, damning revelations in federal documents obtained by a conservative watchdog group. It was a FISA request, not fisa. The FOIA request showed that the Biden administration's Justice Department sought a federal hook so they could investigate and criminally charged parents protesting school policies related to Covid transgenderism, critical race theory and other issues. I want you to keep that short list in mind. Covid, transgenderism and critical race theories. So here's what they discovered in one letter by the afl. Oh, America First Legal. An aide to the Attorney General wrote to a colleague in response to an email saying, hey, is there anything we can do about these protests at school board meetings? And he is like, yeah, we're aware of the issue. The challenge here is finding a federal hook. But the White House has been in touch about whether we can assist in some form or fashion. Now, Fox News has reported that Merrick Garland issued a directive on October 4 of 21 that directed the FBI to assist local law enforcement partners, quote, with a disturbing spike in harassment, intimidation and threats of violence against school administrators. Now, you remember that list, the short list before. Here's another short list. Harassment. What is harassment exactly? If you're keeping schools closed purely because you're at the end of the teacher's union choke chain and the private school a block away is open and the public schools in red states are open, what does harassment or intimidation mean if you're a parent at the end of your rope? How about if they've convinced your nine year old boy that he's a little girl or your confused adolescent daughter that she ought to be called Jimmy and we're not going to tell mom and dad. They don't need to know. Can you picture some vehemence that might be called harassment or intimidation?
Joe Getty
You'd get it out of me.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, sure as hell. Now, threats of violence, nobody's in favor of that. I certainly am not either. And then the critical race theory where they dragged all the kids into class and told them it's all about race and the white kids are bad kids and they need to shut up and blah, blah, blah. Can you picture people being a little vehement about that and just, you know, there's more to this and I'm going to keep it around, but one strategy, you have to understand that the, the neo Marxists or whatever you want to call them, the wokes, the progressives use is they will introduce something just crazy like the stuff I just described or put porn in your kids libraries. Right? And then when you react like any human being would react to the things I've described, they say, oh calm down, calm down, you're harassing me, you're intimidating me. You're. You're a book canceler. They count. That's conscious that they do that. That's a strategy that they do that they put their finger in your face. Then when you slap it away they say look, those people are violence, are violent rather. And so this is actual documents where the DOJ and the White House are talking about how we really want to help you out, but we've got to come up with some hook that enables the federal government to get involved in this because there isn't one. Obviously. There's nothing more local than education anyway. It's despicable.
Joe Getty
Famed social scientist taking heat for his comments about the wnba can get to that next scan afterward from our friends.
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Joe Getty
Murray, I don't know if you know him, remember him of the Bell Curve fame? Unfortunately that's infamy I suppose. Anyway, good dude, good libertarian.
Jack Armstrong
Depends who you ask.
Joe Getty
But yeah, very smart guy. He tweeted out something the other day about how I was watching the wnba, they really aren't that good and he got a lot of blowback on that and but I thought this was interesting. He said lots of interesting replies to my post about women's pro tennis versus the WNBA Saying you watch women's pro tennis and you think those people are really, really good. And it's, it's fun to watch, which I would agree. He said, here's a list of sports for which watching top level women compete doesn't make me think to myself, they really aren't that good. Like he thought when he was watching the wnba. He said, tennis, gymnastics, swimming, skiing, racing, running a race, I guess, golf, figure skating. They're all individual sports and there are a lot of them are closer to ballet, I suppose, than athletic. But there are lots of women's sports. He said, I just don't feel that way about the wnba. I'd say, you know, I might feel the same way, kind of.
Jack Armstrong
That's a very Charles Murray thing to say. He just, he's not worried about what he's supposed to say and he's 100% right. I've commented that top level women's soccer, old Megan Rapinoe and all those people. Is that her name? Megan doesn't matter. Yeah, matters to her probably when she goes to the bank. Certainly I've watched that soccer. And if you enjoy watching it, watch it. They're the best women players in the world. But I watch it as a former player and coach and guy who actually watches soccer matches on the TV occasionally and think, you know, that's pretty sloppy.
Joe Getty
Soccer, really. I say, I would, I wouldn't have a way to judge that, but that's okay.
Jack Armstrong
I love women's sports and girls sports. I value them. I think they're a great idea and those are the best players in the world. But like basketball, it's just, it is markedly different than men's in a way that those other sports, Charles Murray mentioned or not, the women there are just exquisite. They're the greatest athletes on the planet.
Joe Getty
Yeah, you sports, you watch gymnastics in the Olympics. You don't think, well, it's pretty good for a girl. No, no. You got a lawyer who's biting people. We got Colbert turn.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. And you think that sort of behavior could get you heaved out as an intern.
Joe Getty
Colbert's return to television. Does this mean anything for the country or politics or anything like that? We got a bunch of stuff on the way. Stay here.
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Joe Getty
So seeing a lot of media coverage of Colbert being on the air last night and talking about getting fired. And it's interesting how the right and the left both have an interest in pretending that this is all about his content, his political content. Both sides are claiming that. When? I don't think that's even close to the main reason.
Jack Armstrong
But that's an ingredient in the stew. Probably, but. So why'd you lose your job? Well, I bit 10 people. A summer intern for a big Manhattan law firm was reportedly relieved of her duties after biting several people, perhaps up to 10. A summer associate at white shoe firm, Sidley Austin. White shoe law. It's like big, super big law. Why did that come with the Obamas met? By the way, why do they call.
Joe Getty
That white shoe law firms?
Jack Armstrong
It's probably some old timey reference to back when you're super rich. Super rich Northeastern attorney shoes, huh? Okay, like mobsters. Like Polly Walnuts. Anyway, by the time she was canned, her body counted reached double digits. Insiders told the legal news site above the Law. Just as a quick aside, my daughter is a law school intern right now and trust me, this story is really caught the attention of America's young would be attorney.
Joe Getty
Are you gonna give us caus? Since you've been teasing this at the beginning of the show, I've been trying to figure picture a scenario in which you would even have the opportunity to bite someone.
Jack Armstrong
Here it is. The bites were not. This is a quote now. The bites were not in an aggressive we're beefing way. There's some hipster lingo in here. But rather a faux quirky manic pixie dream girl crossed with the Donner party vibe. Yeah. All right. Yeah, we gotta, we gotta pick this apart. I said to my daughter, Delaney, what's a faux quirky manic pixie dream girl? And she said, oh, that's like a trope, an archetype in movies. It's the I'm smart and quirky. I'm not like the other girls, but I know who I am and I have dyed purple hair and I'm finding myself. I mean, it's like a character in all those movies.
Joe Getty
I don't remember them biting people.
Jack Armstrong
Faux quirky, manic pixie dream girl. But again, crossed with the Donner party vibe. So it's un. What's really unclear, though. I've seen pics of the results. Nibble is probably too tame a word the article's author noted.
Joe Getty
Well, then that's if you're, if a young woman starts nibbling on me. I, I, that, that, that would seem like. So is it nibbling or biting? I guess that's what you're trying to nail down here.
Jack Armstrong
It's not like breaking the skin. Although somebody, one person was bruised apparently. It's like, look how nutty and quirky I am. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. And she GR. Grabs your arm and like bites it a little bit.
Joe Getty
That's weird.
Jack Armstrong
Which is seriously crazy.
Joe Getty
If somebody did that to me once, I would think you were a freaking weirdo.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, yeah. Yeah. And the New York Post is so New York Posty in this story. A jaw dropping account. Do you get it? Do you get it, Michael? I get it. A draw a jaw dropping account of the chomping spree posted to Twitter said the girl sank her teeth into 10 colleagues, including other summer interns, associate lawyers, and even the HR rep at the firm's 7th Avenue offices while she bit.
Joe Getty
The HR rep. And they apparently didn't have training there at the corporate training reasons not to bite people. Here's the scenario.
Jack Armstrong
John from accounting says you've spent more than your budget. Do you A, bite him or B, not bite him? Another insider said it was such a repeated thing that her office mates started wearing long sleeve shirts to the office because the one girl kept getting bit. There was one bruise, evidently.
Joe Getty
You'd be at coffee, she's not there. You're talking to other people and say, I like that new girl, Jenny. She seems really sharp. But she did a weird thing the other day. She bit me.
Jack Armstrong
She bit me too. Right, you too.
Joe Getty
And then somebody else piped, yeah, me too. So there's three of us. She bit. That is so freaking weird.
Jack Armstrong
And you know, honestly, I could see one person thinking that was really weird and quirky. But you'd think after the second or.
Joe Getty
Third, I wouldn't go to HR though, would you?
Jack Armstrong
I don't think it to somebody. Not in an official capacity. I would. I would test the room. Test check the temperature of the room. I would. Hey, how weird is that?
Joe Getty
I would laugh about it behind her back with people, but I wouldn't complain or go to HR or want to get her fired.
Jack Armstrong
Would you bite her back?
Joe Getty
Yeah. That's the way you handle. That's the way they do it in school. I remember from kindergarten if there was a kid that bit people, usually they got bit back.
Jack Armstrong
It's the only way to stop a biting bully. Firm decline to come and Insider told the Post the intern bit only 5 employees then that exaggerations were now flooding the right 12 is weird, 5 is.
Joe Getty
Completely 5 is normal, right?
Jack Armstrong
I bet 4 people already today.
Joe Getty
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Joe Getty
Joe and I have talked about this before. Here's a secret about the media business. It's for profit. For the most part. It's a for profit thing and they our bosses don't really care what we say at all. If we get advertising dollars to come in at the level that they want to justify our salaries, they don't care if we were a all day long progressive show but got the same ratings and made the same amount of money for the company, they'd be perfectly fine with that.
Jack Armstrong
Gardening exercise tips, you name it.
Joe Getty
And so that's what it's all about. And I find it interesting that Colbert getting fired or his show going away that that's the part that's left out of it too. Colbert didn't just get fired and they're bringing in a new host. The whole concept of the big CBS Late show is going away and Going to be replaced by who knows what. Something that don't cost much, I guarantee you because it's just too expensive. So. But there's an interest for the, for Republican or people who, media people on the right and media people on the left to act like it's about his content. He was, I think the first late night show to go full in political after decades of hosts going all the way back to Steve Allen, Jack Paar, Johnny Carson, Oliver. You didn't want to offend people politically because you wanted as big an audience as possible. But Colbert came along and prioritized talking to Democrats and people who hated Trump and, and got really good ratings and was number one almost his entire run. But the financial model doesn't work anymore in the same way that the financial model doesn't work for newspapers and all kinds of things anymore in the modern world with Internet and blah blah blah and all the competition and. And then since last week we've heard the story multiple times that he's losing. They lose what, $50 million a year on that show, the production of it or whatever.
Jack Armstrong
And then yeah, I've heard 40. That's more complicated than it sounds because again, if they create viral moments that get their online presence $70 million in revenue or whatever, then it's profitable. But.
Joe Getty
But I'm guessing it's not.
Jack Armstrong
No, not in total. Probably not.
Joe Getty
Not in the way that it used to be. The ratings for all TV shows are so much lower than they used to be. Do you know that? I mean they're, they're a tiny fraction of what they used to be. You can get 8 million people and it is a hit TV show. You used to get canceled immediately. If you had 8 million people, that wasn't worth having on the air and it wasn't even that many years ago. So that's how much it's changed. And if you have that fewer many people watching or listening or whatever and the revenue stream is different. So I just think it's interesting that the, that the right has a reason to say see you're a liberal and they fire you because there's no audience for that when there was. And the left saying the Trump administration made CBS and Paramount bow down to their wishes and that's a horror. Cuz they didn't like hearing anti Trump stuff. Okay. I think you criticizing the bosses last week might have been a bigger part of it because they don't want that kind of headache as they're trying to make this big business deal.
Jack Armstrong
Right. I think it's all probably factored in. I'm a little surprised given the astonishing numbers I've seen about the production costs of the show. Yeah, Bear salary and the rest of it. How much you do you reimagine the model for the modern day?
Joe Getty
Well, that's kind of a lot leaner.
Jack Armstrong
And meaner and more entertaining.
Joe Getty
That's kind of what they're doing with Seth Meyers who was in the audience last night along with Jimmy Fallon and a whole bunch of other giant stars.
Jack Armstrong
Who were there to support a show of solidarity for something with something about.
Joe Getty
Something like Seth Meyer's show. They got rid of the band and like it's very bare bones. I mean it's got a bit of a. Your local college TV station look to it where he just walks out and sits at a desk and tells some jokes. But. Which is fine. But I just wanted to play a little of this. I actually haven't heard it. This is how CBS covered it today.
Jack Armstrong
Chris, thank you very much. Late show host Stephen Colbert had some things to say and plenty of big name support last night in his first broadcast since announcing the show's cancellation. He poke fun at CBS a bit for the surprise move. People were not expecting it. And at President Trump who as you may imagine, appears to be celebrating the cancellation online. Here's Vlad. They're killing off our show. But they made one mistake. They left me alive. With 10 months left on the iconic Ed Sullivan Theater stage, Stephen Colbert wasted no time taking on a frequent target. I can finally speak unvarnished truth to and say what I really think about Donald Trump starting right now. Making it clear that his attacks on President Donald Trump are here to stay until next May. I don't care for him. That line may have been diplomatic, but it was his reaction to reading back the president's truth Social post where he relished CBS's decision to cancel the show. That was anything but. I absolutely love that Colbert got fired was even less than his ratings. How, how, how dare you, sir? Would an untalented man be able to compose the following satirical witticism. Go yourself.
Joe Getty
The cancellation. So there you go. And so Jon Stewart on his show had a lar. We were going to try to play it, but it would take too many bleeps. A big song and dance number with a choir and everything like that where the song was Go F yourself. Go F yourself. Go F yourself. Repeat it again. Go F yourself good. And got the crowd singing and everything like that again. I think it's, I don't think, I think those kind of giant shows and their, their mind share and their ability to, their hold on the country. They're just, it's just going away. Everything's getting like we were talking about yesterday. There are no shared experiences. It's all so fragmented and that's the main thing. And for better or worse, I think probably worse.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Taking off my critics hat and putting on my sociologist's hat, the, the incredible enthusiasm for tribal reaffirmation among that crowd is really something. The crowd reaction of just enthusiasm and glee that we all agree on this and we're all together and, and just how it's us against the evil doers and the rest of it putting aside, you know, it's a for profit business. Wasn't making a profit. Yeah, there are polit. But just it's, it's interesting to me.
Joe Getty
What it happening the same week that NPR and PBS got defunded is kind of interesting because the, the left after the last election was, you know, why don't we have a Joe Rogan? We need that sort of thing. The right just has such a hold on media and their ability to talk to people. They used to say that about Rush Limbaugh. So Rush Limbaugh, as big as he was, wasn't as big as NPR all over the country. And Rush Limbaugh was not funded by taxpayers. And the same with Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan's not funded by taxpayers. And NPR is way bigger than across the country, than the rest of the radio industry. And you had all of late night television on your side too. And you have for, for, for all these years. And that's going away just because audiences are dwindling away, not because of the politics of it.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, I would agree.
Joe Getty
But the, the hold that the left has had on culture, their cultural hold, movies and television, late night tv, npr, pbs, all that sort of stuff.
Jack Armstrong
Are you kidding? Which is downstream, I think, of education. They have work on that, right?
Joe Getty
Yep, exactly.
Jack Armstrong
Well, thank goodness for podcasting. Speaking of podcasting, I want to squeeze this on. We played it late in the show yesterday, as I recall. Gavin Newsom is. It was on Sean Ryan's podcast. Sean's a conservative presence. If you know him, you know him. And, and, and Gabby's continuing that tacking toward the center, trying to show that he's a regular guy thing and not a completely out of touch, far left elitist Napa Valley Silver Spooner. And, and actually it sets itself up quite nicely. Go ahead, Michael.
Joe Getty
What about for your values? I mean, is, is 8 years old.
D
Too young Yeah, I mean, look for a sex change, now that I have a nine year old, just became nine. Come on, man, I get it. So those are legit. You know, it's, it's interesting. Just the issue of age. I haven't. As I. And as someone that's been so focused on, on equality, broadly LGBT rights, particularly gay marriage. The trans issue for me is also novel. It's. Over the last few years, I'm trying to understand as much as anyone else, whole pronoun thing, trying to understand all of that. That was like, the hell. I mean, all that stuff. I get it. This, all this stuff started to collapse on us. I joked with Charlie about Latinx.
Jack Armstrong
That was something. I mean, it's obvious what he's doing. He's trying to be a regular guy. I get it, man. That's leg.
Joe Getty
Well, he's trying not to say anything.
Jack Armstrong
Right, exactly. And he succeeded brilliantly. The only close to substance there was him admitting that the whole transgender thing came out of nowhere a few years ago. And all of a sudden everybody's supposed to be in lockstep accepting this radical theory, but so weak.
Joe Getty
Play the beginning again and again to the question of how do you feel about, you know, sex change operations for 8 year olds? What about for your values? I mean, is, is 8 years old too young?
D
Yeah, I mean, look, I, I, now that I have a nine year old, just became nine. Come on, man. I get it.
Jack Armstrong
Come on, man.
Joe Getty
Okay, you did.
Jack Armstrong
Come on, I get it. That's legit.
Joe Getty
You didn't say anything.
Jack Armstrong
No.
Joe Getty
You didn't say it didn't come close.
Jack Armstrong
And you know what's a little hurtful is that you think your weak ass line of bolas is gonna fool anybody saying, right, I get it, man. Yep, that's legit. I get it. No, no, you didn't say anything.
Joe Getty
You didn't.
Jack Armstrong
You have children being mutilated by these doctors who are the cousins of Joseph Mengele of Nazi infamy, that doing these terrible experiments on children and all you can come up with is, yeah, I hear you. I get it, man, that's legit.
Joe Getty
As you said yesterday, the only thing that might matter out that is that the hardcore progressives heard that and thought, he won't toe the line, that bastard.
Jack Armstrong
Right. Yes. You've got to full say what you are. Yeah. What you're required to say in that situation, that sex is a social construct, gender is fluid, and yes, the child knows. The child absolutely knows, and he wouldn't say it.
Joe Getty
And beyond that, the chances them committing suicide is very high if you don't give them the gender affirming care they need.
Jack Armstrong
What Gavin's problem is, well, he's got a couple, including the fact that he's not quite as bright as he thinks. But the second one is, Gav, there's no neutral on this issue.
Joe Getty
No, no, there is.
Jack Armstrong
No. Look, I just won't go along with it and people will assume that I'm on their side of it. No, no, they will not, sir.
Joe Getty
Oh, look, I got, I've got a nine year old now, so. Yeah, man, you didn't say. You didn't say anything, dude. And everybody knows that.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, we'll see.
Joe Getty
We'll see if he can thread that needle, try to get the nomination and then attack toward the center, which is the classic.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. And who knows. And then the Republicans who have a fantastic history of screwing things up, of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Who knows.
Joe Getty
Yeah, that was so weak though. So freaking weak. You have any response to any of that? Text line 415295 KFTC ARMSTRONG and GETTY.
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Joe Getty
Got some good AI stuff for you. I am now leaning away from AI being the Great Disruptor. I was leaning toward agreeing with the crowd that thinks it's going to be the Great Disruptor. I'm leaning away from it now with the latest information I've taken in, but we can talk about that next hour. Coca Cola said it will release a cane sugar version of its product here in the United States. It's not going to replace the other Coca Cola, but it will be an option to buy it. So there you go. If you like the what they call Mexican coke made with real sugar, which I think does taste better.
Jack Armstrong
Probably going to be significantly more expensive.
Joe Getty
Could be also this poor.
Jack Armstrong
Wait a minute. Or maybe they just distribute a super limited amount of it to cause all sorts of crazy buzz and then see where it goes from there.
Joe Getty
Ah, could be. Did you see the portrait that somebody painted of me that I put on the group thing? I tweeted it out. I suppose we could put it the website. Anyway, this is kind of an interesting experience I had. I had to go get fingerprinted in my town a couple of weeks ago. So I went to the place you go downtown to get fingerprinted to be a mandated reporter, which I took the couple hour training and filled out the forms and now I'm a mandated reporter. If I see child abuse or anything like that, it's the law that I have to report it. But you have to get fingerprint background checked and all these different sorts of things that go along with that. And at the place where you get your fingerprint and they run your background check, they have in my town, paintings of all like prominent people in my town. And the guy who works there and his parents are big fans of the show and have been big fans for years and been telling me that. And I mentioned the paintings. They said, yeah, I'm sure my dad would love to do one of you. Well, that'd be cool. So they took a picture of me there and. And then took a couple of weeks and they painted it. So what do you think of the likeness I've always wanted? You think so?
Jack Armstrong
Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean, it's, it's, you know, slightly stylized in the way that.
Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah. Caricature sort of thing.
Jack Armstrong
Well, if somebody asked me, who's this? I'd say, what, are you kidding? Is this, is this a joke? It's Jack, clearly.
Joe Getty
Oh, so, you know, you could tell was. Well, I thought that too when I was looking at the paintings of people in town. It's people, I don't even know their names, but I could look at the picture and think, oh yeah, that's that guy that works over there. And that's the guy that does this. And so, yeah, that's quite a talent if you can actually paint somebody in such a way that it looks like them.
Jack Armstrong
He gave you guns too. Congratulations.
Joe Getty
I usually don't like nude photos, but.
Jack Armstrong
This is not bad. It's tasteful. The way your one leg is thrown over the other is. Well, we're all grateful for that.
Joe Getty
Yeah. This came out yesterday. A study Shows that the richer a man is, the less likely he is to marry a significantly younger woman. Going contrary to all the stereotypes that have always existed. And there's a chart here.
Jack Armstrong
A chart would never lie.
Joe Getty
It's based on income data and, and marriage data records and all that sort of stuff. Your top 1% earners are less likely to marry a much younger woman than people who are in the bottom 1% or the bottom quarter or whatever earnings. Isn't that interesting? I think just sociologically, and I don't, I don't have an explanation for it, but the old saw, this is an example of like a stereotype being just completely wrong.
Jack Armstrong
It is so counterintuitive and surprising. I find myself doubting its accuracy.
Joe Getty
I do too. But it could be just, you know, there are, there are the very notable exceptions you see with a rich guy and a hot young woman, but that's not most of them. I know plenty of rich people that have been married for a very long time, you know, to someone roughly their age. Lots and lots of them. So yeah, statistically might be true.
Jack Armstrong
Could it be born of resentment of the rich?
Joe Getty
Could be, could be.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know. Be a good excuse to play clip 12.
Joe Getty
Okay, go ahead.
Jack Armstrong
Kat Rosenfeld, Field from the the lead.
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Of course, everybody loves a good public shaming in the social media era. And this one particularly invites that typ reaction because everybody and everything involved is something that people love to hate. You know, you have CEOs, you have HR representatives, you have Coldplay.
Joe Getty
Love to hate Coldplay. So this story has yet another round of discussion. The couple caught on the Coldplay kiss cam.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, HR professionals who everybody understands are here to protect the company, not to help you. And you know, it's funny, I was just reading, I had no idea. I don't hate Coldplay. You know, Chris Martin writes some catchy songs, but a big part of their concerts for the last several couple of years, I guess is turning the camera on the audience and he will make up songs about the people. I didn't know that. And have fun with it. And it goes viral and stuff. A particularly bad choice for a concert at which to have an affair.
Joe Getty
Well, that's just a dumb idea all the way around on so many different levels. By the way, this is not a stereotype. She's the wealthy one. He's worth $55 million. She's worth way more.
Jack Armstrong
Her. Wow.
Joe Getty
She married into a multi billion dollar family, so I don't know what that means about anything. If you missed a segment, get the podcast. Armstrong and Getty on demand.
Jack Armstrong
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Release Date: July 22, 2025
Host: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Description: The official, On-Demand podcast of The Armstrong & Getty Show! Accept no substitutes!
In this episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand, hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty delve into a variety of current events, blending humor with insightful commentary. From the abrupt cancellation of Stephen Colbert's show to intriguing stories from the legal and educational sectors, Armstrong and Getty provide listeners with a comprehensive look at the week's noteworthy happenings.
The episode opens with a discussion on the unexpected cancellation of Stephen Colbert's late-night show, sparking reactions across the political spectrum. Stacey Abrams highlighted her former appearances on Colbert’s show, hinting at more politically influenced times with her comment, "after finding out Stephen Colbert was canceled, Stacey Abrams posted photos from her many appearances on the show. She alluded that those were happier times when she could still fit in a chair." (00:00).
Joe Getty points out the shifting landscape of late-night television:
"Colbert came along and prioritized talking to Democrats and people who hated Trump and, and got really good ratings and was number one almost his entire run." (22:30).
Jack Armstrong adds, "The financial model doesn't work anymore in the same way that the financial model doesn't work for newspapers and all kinds of things anymore in the modern world with Internet and blah blah blah and all the competition and." (22:30).
The hosts explore how Colbert’s overt political stance may have contributed to his show's demise, discussing the broader implications for politically charged media in an era of fragmented audiences.
Next, Armstrong and Getty cover a bizarre incident involving a law firm intern who was terminated after allegedly biting up to ten coworkers. Jack Armstrong describes the situation:
"A summer intern for a big Manhattan law firm was reportedly relieved of her duties after biting several people, perhaps up to 10." (14:31).
Joe Getty humorously muses, "If somebody did that to me once, I would think you were a freaking weirdo." (18:20), highlighting the absurdity of the situation while discussing workplace etiquette and the potential impacts on the firm’s culture.
The conversation shifts to American education reform, with Jack Armstrong expressing his commitment:
"Reforming American education might be my greatest jihad." (02:58). He proposes an "educational reformer of the week" to recognize effective schools and teachers amidst the ongoing battle against what he describes as "neo Marxists and the lunatics."
Joe Getty touches on recent legislative changes:
"We won a big victory in President Trump's big beautiful bill, the tax mega bill. It comes with a bit of a catch." (02:58). The discussion centers on how the new tax credits for donations to private schools could be hindered by governors in blue states who are influenced by teachers' unions, potentially widening the educational divide.
Armstrong and Getty delve into controversial revelations about the Biden Administration's Department of Justice (DOJ) and its attempts to suppress local school board protests. Jack Armstrong references federal documents showing that the DOJ sought ways to criminalize parental protests against school policies on Covid, transgenderism, and critical race theory:
"The Biden Attorney General Merrick Garland and the White House conspired to chill local parents school board protests." (02:58).
He critically examines the DOJ's motives and methods, questioning what constitutes harassment or intimidation in these contexts:
"What does harassment or intimidation mean if you're a parent at the end of your rope?" (07:52).
Joe Getty reinforces the skepticism, mentioning a social scientist who faced backlash for his comments on the WNBA, tying it back to the theme of institutional overreach.
The hosts engage in a spirited debate about societal perceptions of women's sports, sparked by Charles Murray's comments comparing the WNBA unfavorably to women's pro tennis. Joe Getty summarizes Murray's stance:
"He just, he's not worried about what he's supposed to say and he's 100% right." (10:48).
Jack Armstrong counters, emphasizing the athleticism and popularity of women's sports:
"They're the greatest athletes on the planet." (12:28). The discussion highlights the differing viewpoints on the value and appeal of various women's sports, reflecting broader cultural debates.
Armstrong and Getty return to the topic of late-night TV, analyzing how shows have become more politically charged and financially unsustainable. Joe Getty notes the declining ratings and revenue:
"The ratings for all TV shows are so much lower than they used to be." (22:47).
Jack Armstrong discusses the shift towards leaner production models, citing Seth Meyers as an example:
"But I just wanted to play a little of this. I actually haven't heard it." (24:03). The hosts express concern over the fragmentation of media and the loss of shared cultural experiences.
The hosts share personal stories, adding a relatable touch to the episode. Joe Getty recounts getting his portrait painted:
"They took a picture of me there and. And then took a couple of weeks and they painted it. So what do you think of the likeness I've always wanted?" (34:09).
Additionally, Joe Getty talks about becoming a mandated reporter after undergoing fingerprinting:
"I had to go get fingerprinted in my town a couple of weeks ago. So I went to the place you go downtown to get fingerprinted to be a mandated reporter." (34:38). These segments provide a glimpse into the hosts' personal lives, balancing the heavier political and social topics.
A discussion on a recent study reveals that richer men are less likely to marry significantly younger women, challenging existing stereotypes. Joe Getty states:
"A study Shows that the richer a man is, the less likely he is to marry a significantly younger woman." (36:06).
Jack Armstrong expresses skepticism:
"I find myself doubting its accuracy." (37:10), while Joe Getty considers possible sociological explanations, such as resentment towards the wealthy.
The episode also covers a story about Coldplay's kiss cam leading to public shaming. Jack Armstrong describes how an affair was inadvertently highlighted during a concert:
"A couple caught on the Coldplay kiss cam." (38:42).
The hosts mock the situation humorously, questioning the wisdom of using such moments for personal affairs:
"That's a dumb idea all the way around on so many different levels." (39:21).
Armstrong & Getty On Demand wraps up the episode by reflecting on the diverse topics covered, from the upheavals in media to societal debates on education and sports. The hosts maintain their signature blend of humor and critical analysis, leaving listeners with plenty to ponder until the next episode.
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