A Tourist In Someone Else’s Psyche

Summary

Podcast Summary: Armstrong & Getty On Demand Episode: A Tourist In Someone Else’s Psyche
Release Date: May 29, 2025
Host: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Produced by: iHeartPodcasts

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Introduction

In the episode titled "A Tourist In Someone Else’s Psyche," hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty dive deep into controversial topics surrounding political discourse, mental health, and societal policies. Skipping over the initial advertisements, the duo engages in a spirited discussion touching on Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson's book about President Joe Biden, transgender policies in prisons and sports, and the Democratic Party's strategies to engage male voters.

Book Review: A Tourist In Someone Else’s Psyche

The episode opens with a critique of Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson's book, which scrutinizes President Joe Biden's mental acuity and decision-making capabilities.

• Jack Armstrong [02:55]:
  "Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson wrote a book about Joe Biden's brain. It's a hilarious revelation today from an interview that we will discuss coming up."

• Ryan Seacrest [03:26]:
  "But we'll hear a little more of that interview later this hour."

• Jack Armstrong [27:12]:
  "Jake Tapper's Biden book is hilarious and insane. Taibbi's headline is leaps and bounds more demented than the book's subject Joe Biden Depression."

The hosts express skepticism about the book's authenticity and the lack of remorse from interviewees regarding Biden's mental state. They question the ethical and legal implications of Biden's purported incapacity and the potential cover-up by his inner circle.

• Ryan Seacrest [33:40]:
  "That I was part of a cover up. He's still saying he was just misled and didn't see it."

Transgender Policies in Prisons and Sports

Armstrong and Getty transition into a heated discussion on transgender policies, particularly focusing on the placement of transgender individuals in prisons and their participation in women's sports.

• Ryan Seacrest [04:19]:
  "Here's a very interesting story. This is a fellow who is a nurse with a specialization in psychiatry... He says biological sex is the single most impactful factor in patterns of criminality, particularly in cases of violent and sexual assault."

• Jack Armstrong [05:30]:
  "I don't think actually is contentious. I think it's probably, if you put it to a vote, another one of those 80, 20, 90, 10 issues, at least."

The hosts argue that transgender individuals, especially trans males, pose significant risks in female prisons and question the policies allowing them to compete in women's sports. They highlight recent changes in California's Interscholastic Federation policies, critiquing the logic and implementation.

• Ryan Seacrest [09:48]:
  "They say biological boy. An unnecessary term. It's redundant. One trans athlete and one biological girl."

• Jack Armstrong [10:02]:
  "Well, it was incredible distance. Normally you win the competition by an inch."

Panic Attacks and Mental Health

Shifting gears, Armstrong shares personal insights into panic attacks and anxiety, emphasizing the importance of understanding and addressing these mental health challenges.

• Jack Armstrong [18:52]:
  "I've known three people that like talked to me in detail about having panic attacks... it sounds horrifying because then you'd walk around all the time wondering if you're going to get hit with another one."

• Ryan Seacrest [20:52]:
  "Being able to name neuro emotional phenomenon helps. If you can be clinical about it and step outside of the situation, it helps."

Democratic Party’s Strategies for Male Voters

The conversation then pivots to the Democratic Party's strategic efforts to reconnect with male voters, referencing an article by Andrew Stiles from the Free Beacon.

• Ryan Seacrest [40:30]:
  "Andrew Stiles in the Free Beacon just wrote a piece inside the Democratic Party's strategic efforts to enhance receptivity in masculine coded heteronormative cohorts through a data driven holistic outreach."

• Jack Armstrong [41:07]:
  "They just knew they had their finger on the pulse of society."

The hosts critique the party's reliance on consultants and think tanks rather than instinctual leadership, comparing it unfavorably to previous presidents like Obama and Trump who they believe had a more intuitive connection with voters.

Conclusion

In wrapping up, Armstrong and Getty reiterate their skepticism towards the narratives presented in Tapper and Thompson's book and the broader political strategies they discussed. They emphasize the importance of authenticity in leadership and the consequences of ideological deviations from the populace's core sentiments.

• Jack Armstrong [46:00]:
  "Armstrong and Getty Take the magic out of things. You heard a headline that fills you with joy or awe? Here's why you're wrong."

• Ryan Seacrest [46:05]:
  "Stomping the magic out of life. The Armstrong and Getty Show."

The episode concludes with final thoughts that echo the hosts' commitment to presenting their unfiltered perspectives on pressing societal issues.

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Notable Quotes:

• Jack Armstrong [27:12]:
  "Jake Tapper's Biden book is hilarious and insane."

• Ryan Seacrest [33:40]:
  "That I was part of a cover up."

• Jack Armstrong [46:00]:
  "Armstrong and Getty Take the magic out of things."

This episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand offers a provocative exploration of contemporary political and social issues, underscored by the hosts' candid and often contentious viewpoints.

Transcript

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[Jack Armstrong]

Later this hour. So Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson still on the circuit getting interviews about their book. We're on Stephen A. Smith's show today. When he's not yelling about basketball, I guess he's interviewing people like that. He's thinking about running for president as a Democrat. Stephen A. Smith. Anyway, Jake Tapper said they never got a single person who showed any remorse for covering up Biden's decline. Not one.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

But we'll hear a little more of that interview later this hour.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Wow. Huh? How interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

And that's crazy given the fact that it you got Trump elected. How do you not realize that?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. Talk about it when we talk about it. Here's a gender bending madness update, friends.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, I kept hearing about this thing called gender bending madness. They're locos. We're in a brave new world.

[Ryan Seacrest]

All of this madness is on the Wayne except for in education and media. So a handful of stories having to do with gender bending madness, each of which would probably merit an entire segment or even an hour. But we will just touch on them quickly.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'll vlog about them later, will you?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Good. Go ahead. Here is, and this is a very interesting story. This is a fellow who is a nurse with a specialization in psychiatry, psychiatric nursing. He was born female with a rare ovotesticular disorder of sex development and has lived as a man since 06. He was one of that vanishingly small number of people who actually had a genetic condition that it was utterly unclear what sex they were.

[Jack Armstrong]

Interesting.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Anyway. But this person is Aaron is a specialist in psychiatric nursing and he writes when it comes to criminal justice and public safety, few issues are as contentious and as under examined as the placement of male offenders in female prisons. Well, we're working on that, Aaron. But he says biological sex is the single most impacted important factor in patterns of criminality, particularly in cases of violent and sexual assault.

[Jack Armstrong]

No way.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Men. Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sorry, no way. I'm just saying I don't find this surprising and I don't think it actually is contentious. I think it's probably, if you put it to a vote, another one of those 80, 20, 90, 10 issues, at least.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. Men commit the vast majority of these crimes and women comprise the overwhelming majority of the victims.

[Jack Armstrong]

Again, I'm shocked.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Are well established, yet increasingly obscured by ideologically motivated reporting that lumps all transgender people into a single category, masking the key differences between trans identified males and females. This matters especially when it comes to determining the risks posed by trans identified males. In women's prisons and whether their behavior patterns resemble those of men or women, I'll bet you could cut to the chase instead of me doing it. But this fella who is no crusading anti trans lunatic, says, folks, you can't have males. He probably uses the term biological males or whatever. You can't have males with women in prison, especially sex offenders. It is so overwhelmingly, incredibly obvious. Anybody would think otherwise is a lunatic.

[Jack Armstrong]

I am surprised it hasn't become a court case of cruel and unusual punishment sort of thing, violating their constitutional rights or civil liberties or something.

[Ryan Seacrest]

It will. I can't believe it hasn't yet.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, it's terrible. And again, we can spend a lot of time on the data and everything. It's interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

If I'm a woman in prison for whatever, some white collar crime maybe, and you put a dude in there with me who then rapes me, that seems like a clear cut case to me.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh, yeah, yeah, clearly. Absolutely. And again, I'm looking at the data and it is so overwhelming, Gavin, that men should not be in women's prisons.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, let me.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Anybody who thinks otherwise is seriously mentally ill.

[Jack Armstrong]

If this gets to Gavin Newsom, let me speak to this politically. If you want to be president of the United States, ignore the weirdos on the left and join the 80 to 90% who think this is crazy. You're politically fine.

[Ryan Seacrest]

He dipped his well manicured toe into it. I guess it would be pedicured, wouldn't it? His pedicured toe into it, but then backed off immediately when radicals yelled at him.

[Jack Armstrong]

You think Gavin gets pedicures?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh, yeah. Weekly. Moving along. We mentioned this earlier, but it is absolutely worth more attention. California has bent itself into an ideological pretzel to try to stop being embarrassed by boys stealing first place or second place or third place or whatever at state meets from girls in girls track and field and other fields of endeavor. So this new bizarro policy announced a couple of days ago by the California Interscholastic Federation said under this pilot entry process, any biological female student athlete who would have earned the next qualifying mark for one of their sections, automatic qualifying injuries, blah, blah, blah, but didn't get it because there's boys participating. Well, they call them transgender athletes. They're boys. They can go ahead and we'll bring them into the competition anyway because they would have gotten in if it weren't for the boys. And they also clarified that this new pretzel logic policy events will score separately for transgender students so that there now could be three first Place winners in the long jump, for instance, one boy. Boy, they say biological boy. An unnecessary term. It's. It's redundant. One trans athlete and one biological girl.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. But I, I still haven't heard it nailed down. Are you going to have three separate competitions or do you compete in the. There's just two competitions. You compete in the one that you identify as, and then you have two different winners in that competition.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Well, yes, these idiot cowards. The way I understand it is you will say to the girl or to the boy who beat the girls, congratulations, trans girl, you're the first place finisher. Here's your first place medal. Then they'll turn to the actual girl, the real girl, and say, yeah, you're first place too, ignoring the idiocy.

[Jack Armstrong]

So would they both be standing on the podium at equal height, presumably? Quick question. Triple jump, because that's what started this. A boy won the triple jump, out jumped the girls by three feet.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I think it was four. But anyway, yeah, it was an incredible distance. Normally you win the competition by an inch.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, triple jump because he's a boy is why you go off one foot. One foot, two feet.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Correct.

[Jack Armstrong]

Left foot, right foot, both feet.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Wait a minute. One.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or is it one, two, one?

[Ryan Seacrest]

I think it's one. One. One. Yeah, it's one. One, one.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, you don't ever jump off two feet.

[Ryan Seacrest]

No, you land on two feet.

[Jack Armstrong]

So like you'd go left foot, right foot, left foot, or, or vice versa.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Okay, I don't think I've ever done that. Definitely suggest alternating feet. Yes. This is not on the topic.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you could pull off doing left, left, left, that would be quite the trick.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Focus, please. Anyway, it was charmingly known in yesteryear as the hop, skip and jump. Oh, yeah. Anyway, so moving along, a few more headlines. Squeeze in. Beware parents. YMCAs all over the country are woke. The National YMCA provides guidelines on how to create a safe space for LGBTQ plus campers. No, no, this is the actual ymca. It leaves the implementation of facility, housing and sports policies up to each local branch. Branch. So in a lot of place, your little girl is going to have a man staring at them in the locker room, in their tent, in their cabin, in their bathroom, on their sports team. Young man, best to check the YMCA's policies if before you send your child to be embraced in their warm clutches.

[Jack Armstrong]

It'S not so fun to stay at the ymca.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Note from Carlsbad, California. Parents are demanding answers after a self described BDSM expert. That's bondage discipline, sadism, And Maxim.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a lot for one night, who.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Works at a trans surgery and hormone clinic, was invited to speak to high school students in Carlsbad during a recent week of events supporting LGBTQ + minus barbecue over the power of four students.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my God. How do you not pull your kid out of the school?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh, I'm telling. Well, it's. It's freaking Carlsbad public schools. Our government schools are diseased. Take your kid out and bulldoze them. I mean, as a society we should bulldoze them. Don't do it individually. That's a felony. Anyway, so this self described BDSM expert and representative of medical clinic that provides gender transition surgeries delivered remarks at Sage Creek High School in Carlsbad during a lunchtime event. Open all students this they them sicko who leads class. I mean you click on his name, you go right to his website, Kink101 and erotic play and body modification and whips and chains and the rest of it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, we're what, two days away from the schools in their last week going all nuts over June because it's pride month and just the nonstop every day some sort of assembly march song flags everywhere thing.

[Ryan Seacrest]

One more and keep this in mind because I was surprised to learn this. Not only are a lot of the medical associations run by a very small cabal of hardcore leftist activists like the American Academy of Pediatrics, the ama. You think, wow, doctors think this. It must be right? No, no. Most doctors around the country look at what the AMA announces and says. Oh my God, they've lost their effing minds. This headline is taxpayer funded Professional associations push Puberty blockers, DEI and support for HAMA according to a watchdog organization. For instance, the Society of Health and Physical Educators of America recommends teaching 8 year olds about gender identity. It's one of many recipients of federal funding that promotes radical ideologies. Shape the Society of Health and Physical Education Educators, which gets millions of dollars from the CDC among other places, help draft the national sex education standards which set age related teaching benchmarks. According to the standard stud, students by the end of second grade should be able to define gender identity. These are 7 year olds and 8 year olds and should discuss the range of ways people express their gender.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't want it for the seniors, but the fact that it's second graders is extra insane.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Radical gender theory, folks, is a fringe academic nut job Marxist theory that denies there's any difference between male and female and that everybody should pick their gender. This is not normal. It's not true. It's not scientific. It's nuts.

[Jack Armstrong]

There are high schools where you could graduate without knowing who Thomas Jefferson is. And if you do know who he is, all you know is he is a slaveholder. But they're going to make sure you've learned and written a paper about what.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Gender you are by the end of second grade. For the love of God. By the end of fifth grade they should be able to describe, quote, the potential role of hormone blockers on young people who identify as transgender, distinguish between sex assigned at birth and gender identity and explain differences between cisgender, transgender, gender, non binary, gender expansive and gender identity. That's by the end of fifth blanking grade.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do you people know how crazy you are?

[Ryan Seacrest]

I won't even get into the hardcore knowledge of various sex acts. You have to know by the end of eighth grade. Maybe we'll dig more into this another time. It was a gender bending, sickening madness update.

[Jack Armstrong]

I love that. That's a good ending right there. We got more on the way.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I'm I'm all for Elon focusing back on space flight and apparently Tesla stockholders and the Tesla board really wants him to turn his attention back toward Tesla also and the other things that he does. And he also has a dozen kids that might want to see him now and then. I don't know about how that whole thing works. Oh, and by the way, Elon was talking about any of this moon talk. No, Mars. Mars. Moon is just a step toward getting to Mars. We need to have a goal that is way beyond anything we've ever done before. Anyway, I won't get off on that. I'm looking forward to it. I brought up last hour that a couple of people in my very close orbit, I'll leave it at there, have had panic attacks recently. Must be genetic. Maybe it is. I don't know.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Know.

[Jack Armstrong]

And in my I've only known three people that like talked to me in detail about having panic attacks. And in all three cases it was just random when it would happen. Which sounds horrifying because then you'd walk around all the time wondering if you're going to get hit with another one and it feels like you're dying. If you don't know what a panic attack is, I've never felt one, but everybody describes it as you feel like you're dying. Anyway, we got this tactic suffered for many years with panic attacks and anxiety. Well, it's funny, in two examples I know anxiety. They had a lot of anxiety. The other person that I mentioned referenced earlier, big tough guy, had no anxiety. He had nothing else other than random panic attacks. Panic attacks and panic disorder run in my family when I was young, I would have them. The only thing that really helped is pushing your body so that all you can do is think about what you're doing Doing? I started jogging then running almost to exhaustion. Skateboarding. Building puzzles. Your body can only do one thing at a time. Talk about them. The more you talk about them, the more you realize it's not something weird and you're not alone. Okay.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Right. And again, being able to name neuro emotional phenomenon helps. If you can be clinical about it and step outside of the situation, it helps.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it seems to. In all three cases of the people that I know well, the first one is the worst because you don't know what the hell's happening right after that, at least you can know I'm having another panic attack. I've had these before. I'm not actually going to die. Even though easier said than done. I've never had a panic deck. But like I've had the wind knocked out of me several times and each time I thought I was gonna die. Even though I've had it happen many, many times and I knew I would get over it while it's happening, it's not very enjoyable.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. And because it's a fear response that is, you know, the understanding of it's coming along, but it's still fairly little understood because it's fear response. You also start to fear the fear and so it becomes a weirdly self fulfilling bundle of. Oh God, please no.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm glad I don't have them. Sounds awful.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yet now you probably won't at this point in your life, but I don't.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't. I don't think so. So Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson wrote the book about Joe Biden's brain. Another interesting revelation today from an interview that we will discuss and you will hear coming up. But we were talking earlier.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hilariously disingenuous book.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it's interesting and, and hilarious at the same time that you're reporting on something that everybody knew, like we didn't know it.

[Ryan Seacrest]

What?

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, stay tuned for that Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

1. For the love of God, figure out a way to get the schools open sooner. We got very knee jerk about this. Obviously pay more attention to the border. That's real and that's going to be something that you can't just like take your time to deal with. 3. Even though you spent your entire political lifetime believing that the economy and jobs are the same thing and if you have lots of jobs, it's a good economy and if you have a problem with jobs, it's a bad economy. Remember that prices is just as big a part of the economy. It just hasn't come up much in the last 40 years. I don't think most people found that as satisfying as Pete Buddha Judge thought they would, having him speak for the Democratic party. What would you do different? One, open the schools as soon as possible. Yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

We were saying so at the time.

[Jack Armstrong]

Pete to do something about the border. Yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

And three America was screaming at you the whole time. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And three understand that inflation is a really big deal.

[Ryan Seacrest]

That is stunning.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's freaking maddening.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Well, he expects us, as you pointed out implied. He expects us to be grateful for his wisdom and his saying, I deign to listen to your concerns now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, you see, Europe knew that keeping the schools closed was a bad idea. And a lot of America.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, red states, private schools. Yeah, we all knew.

[Jack Armstrong]

And this kind of fits in with the Biden thing a little bit. I mean, did you. Were you not listening to people? Do you not have friends? Were you not looking at the polls? I mean, what the hell? How do you pretend that you didn't know that? That the vast majority of America didn't agree with you on some of these issues and adjust your sales, but whatever.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Just figured out inflation's bad. Wow. Pete, you hero. Boot.

[Jack Armstrong]

Edge. Edge. Okay, so we all know about the book, right? The book, the hilarious book in which Jake Tapper gets to make probably millions of dollars for his family. Family by going around saying, I sit down for this, please. I have uncovered a truth that is going to shock you.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Joe Biden, blow your effing mind.

[Jack Armstrong]

Was not doing well mentally while he was president. Don't mess with the minimum work unless.

[Ryan Seacrest]

You want to get the benefits.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's so maddening. It's funny. But he continues to do interviews and there continue to be some interesting nuggets about it. And here he is with Alex Thompson, the co writer here on the Stephen A. Smith show podcast something or other.

[Alex Thompson]

I will say, Stephen, and we never got somebody that said we should never have done this. I can't believe we did it. In retrospect, it was a mistake how arrogant we were. I mean even, you know, there was a top aide, a top White House aide who acknowledged to me that this short 10, 15 minute interview I did with Joe Biden in October 2022, he would not have been capable of doing in October 2023. That admission was stunning to me, but it did not come with. And we really made a mistake. We shouldn't have run him. What an error. I can't believe we did. It didn't come with that. It came with, you know, and. But we thought that he was the only one that could be Trump, blah, blah, blah. So I think that most for telling the the truth as much as they had come to terms with it themselves. But I do wonder where they will be in a year. Because, you know, I heard from one of the people that one of the Democrats I interviewed for the book who gave me one of the most shocking revelations and I checked in and how are you doing? And you know, they're, they're upset, but they're not upset at us. They're not upset at the book. They're just upset that it happened. And now everybody has to. Everybody's talking about it.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is so.

[Alex Thompson]

I still think that there's.

[Ryan Seacrest]

There were.

[Alex Thompson]

I think they're still working through a lot, don't you?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, there's gradations.

[Jack Armstrong]

So weird. It's so weird that Jake Tapper talks about this thing as if it's not him. He could have substituted they with I for all of those things he said. I haven't come to the full realization of what I was ignoring. I should have been more upset. I, I mean, what are you talking about?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Still working through this.

[Jack Armstrong]

I won where I will be in a year. What are you talking about, dude?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Anyway, so I may, in a year from now, arrive where America was three years ago. Wow. Congratulations again. Oh, thank you, wise one.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I still honestly haven't figured out if he's just flat lying and grabbing money or if he and all humanity is able to delude themselves that much. If it, if it's necessary for your survival. I mean, I have ignored things in the past that. It's shocking to me in retrospect. And maybe he was doing that too, but he still is. I can't believe he still is. I can buy. Maybe he was at the time. I can't believe you've written a book, you've done all these interviews and you're still not sitting there saying, I don't know how the hell I convinced myself that this guy was okay. Him saying, saying I was shocked to learn that he wouldn't have been able to do the same interview I had done with him a year. You were shocked to learn that then.

[Ryan Seacrest]

You'Re crazy or dumb, blind or self delusional because of ideology. Yeah. We touched on Matt Taibbi's fabulous takedown earlier. He. He refers to an unnamed Democrat who denounced Biden's decision to run again as an abomination, but publicly defended Biden. And he mentions the top Democrat who called the White House and said, every day I'm defending this guy, someone tells me it's okay. Like, it doesn't look great. Well, and Taibbi says, if it doesn't look great, why are you defending him? The same person snitches out Biden aides Anita Dunn, Jeff Zients, and Mike Donilon for not being straight about Biden's condition. But that person was doing the same thing to the public right. And in a sense still is by staying anonymous. Yes, it's all. And here's one more point. Then fire away. It's all good because they're talking to each other. Not actual people or Republicans or other inconsequential, inconsequent, inconsequential humans. As Megan Kelly and others noted, the book blows off the conservative media figures who are on Biden's problems from the jump and absolutely should take that omission as an insult. Still, it's more indicative of how this book sources think. Or more where they think on a different plane somewhere above.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, a lot of the Maya Culpas, the few kind of Maya Culpas that Jake Tapper's offered up aren't in the book. They're since the interview circuit started and he's getting pressed hard on this stuff.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Right. And they're talking to each other one more sentence. Meanwhile, the authors never address the monstrous ethical and legal issues that should be at issue in a book whose apparent revelations are about Biden's incapacity being more extensive than known who was making decisions in that case, not just about who should run against Trump, all these people seem to care about, but everything who was making the decisions.

[Jack Armstrong]

So the book mentions that they interviewed 200 people about this and Jake Tapper says not one showed any remorse. We never got somebody that said we should have never done this. I can't believe we did it. In retrospect, it was a mistake. Not one out of 200 hundred said that. Of course you're not saying it either. Jake. I look back with great humility. His press person wrote for him. You know, he says that over and over again. Yeah, but he doesn't say it's ridiculous that I wasn't pushing Democrats harder on this issue. Given Biden's obvious mental state, he's hadn't said anything like that for whatever reason. Again, he's either dumb or lying or. Or we're able to delude ourselves much more than I realize.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Lies.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's something I, I do not accept.

[Ryan Seacrest]

That I was part of a cover up. He's still saying he was just misled and didn't see it.

[Jack Armstrong]

God, that's crazy.

[Ryan Seacrest]

It is crazy. Jake Tapper's Biden book is hilarious and insane. Taibbi's headline is Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson's Mass media apologia is leaps and bounds more demented than the book's subject Joe Biden Depression.

[Jack Armstrong]

I agree. It's weird. I. I've used the word hilarious and Weird a lot with that book.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. You know, I'm sorry, I've got to. The. My favorite part of his description of the book was that. Where is it? He. He thought it was like a mea culpa, the book, that it would cover the press's failure to cover the most obvious story in the history of the world, as he said, where. Oh, it's the opposite of a mea culpa. And the literary degree of difficulty is awesome. Equivalent to a blind unicyclist trying to juggle six chainsaws. Did Jake and Alex pull it off? They don't, but they sure leave a hell of a lot of blood on stage.

[Jack Armstrong]

So he thought he could write a book where he claims, we were lied to by the inner circle. How were we supposed to know? Even though two thirds or more of America knew.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, with zero sources and a lot of us who are, I flatter myself, truth tellers who come at it from an unmistakably conservative point of view. But, I mean, it was beyond obvious to us. We were documenting it at the time. I mean, his unhinged performance in the 20. In the. In the 2020 campaign before he was elected. You're a dog. He was literally losing it. What's that?

[Jack Armstrong]

You're a dog face Pony boy, or whatever it was.

[Ryan Seacrest]

He said that exactly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Randomly.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Boy.

[Ryan Seacrest]

It would be terrifying and so fascinating to be a tourist in somebody else's psyche just for five minutes. I mean, if you knew you could get back to your own, it would be less terrifying. But if I could get inside Jake Tapper's head and actually feel his rationalization for why this book makes sense. And some of the revelations are really interesting and compelling. I mean, it's. As you pointed out, it's a decent read. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, it definitely is, but it's.

[Ryan Seacrest]

It's like the bizarre moral posturing that's so tough to take the particulars of.

[Jack Armstrong]

Like finding out Joe Biden's guy was so powerful is interesting stuff. I'll read this. You've heard part of it before, but maybe not all of it from the book.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Book.

[Jack Armstrong]

Five people were running the country, and Joe Biden was, at best a senior member of the board. That is huge. I mean, that is absolutely huge. The President of the United States was at best one of the five making decisions, said one person familiar with the internal dynamic. A cabinet secretary, not just somebody in the White House who kind of knew a cabinet secretary, expressed a similar sentiment about the group close to the president. I've never seen a situation like this before with so few people, people having so much power, they would make huge economic decisions without calling the Treasury Secretary. Yellen, that's a scandal. It's a major scandal. We will finish. We'll finish strong. Next Armstrong and Getty.

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[Ryan Seacrest]

The great Andrew Stiles in the Free Beacon just wrote a piece inside the Democratic Party's strategic efforts to enhance receptivity in masculine coded heteronormative cohorts through a data driven holistic outreach.

[Jack Armstrong]

Finally, in other words, trying to appeal.

[Ryan Seacrest]

To some dudes somewhere.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is that what that means? I lost track on the sixth word. I didn't know the definition of yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Democratic donors and consultants have been meeting in luxury hotels to analyze the party's inability to connect with male voters and propose alternative communication strategies. The results, according to New York Times, have often resembled anthropological studies of people from faraway places.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, that might be a good idea for a party as you are trying to come up with a strategy and messaging and all that sort of stuff. But what has happened, at least in, in recent cycles for president is somebody who intuitively knows all this stuff and how to do it, rises to the top and wins like a Trump or a Barack Obama. They just intuitively, instinctively understand how to talk to, you know, a giant group of people. They're not a think tank didn't tell them. Nobody wrote long, complicated papers based on a focus group. They just knew they had their finger on the pulse of society.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Right, right. Well, and have the confidence to hang in there because like Ron DeSantis is really good and natural as the governor of Florida. Florida, I see him all the time. But as a presidential candidate, he got talked into by the consultants, you know, a certain approach that wasn't him. He backed off in a way that like Obama or George W. Bush or one of those guys wouldn't.

[Jack Armstrong]

Joe used to say all the time because we had this problem when we were doing, before we got into talk radio, we were doing a variety of shows that weren't us, didn't match our personalities. We were trying to do shows for different kind of radio stations that weren't genuinely us. And Joe came up with this line of, you never are faking it as good as you think you are. Which I never thought we were faking that good anyway.

[Ryan Seacrest]

It's just imagine how badly we were actually faking it.

[Jack Armstrong]

But faking a smile Faking a certain sort of, you know, act for a crowd doesn't work. Obama was himself everywhere. Trump was himself everywhere. George W. Bush was himself everywhere. Those people are just good at that. That.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, yeah. I found Obama's authentic self to be incredibly off putting, but I was in the minority that election, as it turns out. So getting back to Andrew Styles with this stuff, and it's hilarious, it's, it's parody. But speaking with American men, the strategic blueprint for enhancing receptivity, blah, blah, blah, basic conversation. Instead of hi there, what are your pronouns? Or have you read any good female novelists lately? Please try, hey, how are you? Nice to meet you, where are you from? Over. Correction, do not try. Want to meet up later and do some roids or. For sure, I would totally let Joe Rogan bang my wife. No, that's trying too hard.

[Jack Armstrong]

You.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I have some final thoughts. And some people say they are the greatest final thoughts they've ever heard. But if you look at what's happening, happening, I would have to say Armstrong and Getty have some wonderful final thoughts. They are right up there with Abraham Lincoln and everybody knows it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here's your host for final thoughts.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Thank you, sir. Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap things up for the day. There he is, pressing the buttons in the control room, our technical director, Michelangelo Michael. Final thought. Okay, I'm really curious now about other shows that you did that you say weren't. Weren't you. I mean, do you. Did you do like Spanish language or soft rock?

[Jack Armstrong]

Which would. We'd have been. I'd have been able to be more authentic on a Spanish language station than on a soft rock station.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Right? Remember, there are kids in the Vinnie van and your ideal. You gotta tailor everything you say to your ideal listener or your, your core listener. Now, how about we just say what we want to say and people who like it will listen, huh? How does that proposition strike you, Jack? Finally.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, just keeping on that theme for my final thought. When we were doing soft rock, the problem was our contempt for our listeners and that we would play some Celine Dion song and think we'd start the song and then take off our headphones.

[Ryan Seacrest]

And say, who would get up in the morning and listen to this?

[Jack Armstrong]

What kind of person gets up in the morning and wants to hear this song?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Getting back to Andrew Styles, I'll give him my final thought. Instead of saying, sorry to hear your daughter had her ribs broken by a karate transgender athlete, but have you considered the possibility that her hospital stay would have been cheaper if we assassinated all healthcare executives instead of saying that, say LeBron James flops like a.

[Jack Armstrong]

Who saw that televised sporting event last night? That was something, wasn't it? Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Jack Armstrong]

I'm going to watch Nick's Pacers tonight. Speaking of that, see you tomorrow. God Bless America.

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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Thank you.

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