A Tree Area

Summary

Podcast Summary: Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: “A Tree Area”

Date: February 18, 2026
Host: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

Overview

This episode of Armstrong & Getty dives into the growing public health concerns about ultra-processed foods, the rise of litigation against food companies (in parallel to previous actions against big tobacco), and the broader societal questions about personal responsibility versus corporate accountability. The hosts also weigh in on current events—from Olympic athlete pressures to political developments in New York, property tax debates, and even a humorous segment on “danger sounds” in the wild. The show’s signature irreverent banter and skepticism toward trends and government action are on full display.

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. Ultra-Processed Foods: Health Crisis or Litigation Fad?

[02:48–13:51] Main Discussion Segment

• Public Health Comparison to Tobacco:
  The episode kicks off referencing Dr. David Kessler (former FDA commissioner) appearing on “60 Minutes,” asserting that the spread of ultra-processed foods is “as large, if not larger” a public health crisis than tobacco.

  “It’s as large, if not larger. It’s that significant… this affects everybody. Not everybody smoked. Look at the number of people who consume ultra-processed food.” —Jack Armstrong paraphrasing Kessler [02:52]

• Lawyers Eyeing Big Paydays:
  The hosts are skeptical of the profit motives behind lawyers who previously sued tobacco and are now eyeing the food industry.

  “He probably made a gazillion dollars…now he thinks he can sue even bigger companies…and become a gazillionaire 20 times over. Doesn’t mean he’s wrong…but his enthusiasm might be driven by the dollar signs.” —Jack Armstrong [04:42]

• The Science and the Blame Game:
  They share key “60 Minutes” points:

  • Ultra-processed foods are believed to alter our metabolism rapidly, leading to a spike in chronic diseases (diabetes, heart disease, fatty liver, etc.).
  • Is obesity about laziness, or the food itself?

    “70% of Americans are either obese or overweight…Not because we got indolent or because we became lazy…It’s because we’re being given food low in nutrition and high in calories…” —RFK Jr., as aired on 60 Minutes [07:14]

• Personal Responsibility vs. Corporate Accountability:
  The debate shifts to whether the government should restrict bad foods, or whether consumers are responsible for their choices. Jack points out the convenience and marketing of processed foods and jokes about the misleading health halo around brands like Nature Valley and potato chips.

  “Are the companies not allowed to make the yummiest food they possibly can, regardless of health? And then we decide whether or not we want to eat it?” —Jack Armstrong [07:41]
  “People just need to be aware and then govern their own lives accordingly... I’ve become convinced, and we’re working in my house to wean ourselves off…” —Joe Getty [08:03]

• Labels and Ingredients Myths:
  Jack observes that potato chips (Lay’s) only have three simple ingredients, questioning if all processed foods are inherently “ultra-processed.”

  “The ingredients in Lay’s potato chips—potatoes, vegetable oil and salt…that’s the only ingredients.” —Jack Armstrong [10:03]
  Joe clarifies: not all bad-for-you food is ultra-processed—natural things can be unhealthy too.

• Slippery Slope of Lawsuits:
  The hosts push back on litigation as the solution:

  “If it’s going to be just—if it’s unhealthy for you, the company should be sued out of existence—where are you going to stop? Are all fast food restaurants going to close down?” —Jack Armstrong [12:05]

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2. Olympic Pressure & Athlete Mental Health

[17:19–19:21]

• Ilya Malinin's Struggles:
  Discussion of U.S. Olympic figure skater Ilya Malinin, who felt he let everyone down by not medaling despite being the favorite. Athletes like Simone Biles and Tom Brady reached out to reassure him.

  “Greatest ever at his sport falls in his biggest competition ever, just from the pressure. Tom Brady gives him a call. Steph Curry gives him a call. Simone Biles…that’s interesting.” —Jack Armstrong [18:13]

• Failing on a Big Stage:
  Joe adds perspective with Michael Jordan’s missed shots montage, reminding listeners that even legends regularly fail, but keep going.

  'You are going to fail. Sometimes…I feel bad for the kid…” —Joe Getty [18:39]

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3. Celebrity Meltdowns: Shia LaBeouf at Mardi Gras

[19:41–22:40]

• LaBeouf’s Wild Night:
  Jack describes actor Shia LaBeouf’s drunken arrests at Mardi Gras—brawling, being arrested, and quickly returning to the party.

  “…that is some lifestyle…That story ends badly, doesn’t it?” —Jack Armstrong [22:34, 22:38]
  “He’s a drunk, but he’s a really, really good one. I’m sapped. I’m exhausted…they let me out of jail, man, I’m…questioning my life choices.” —Joe Getty [21:48]

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4. New York’s Socialist Turn & Property Tax Debates

[26:00–33:50]

• Mayor Zoran Mamdani’s Policies:
  The hosts strongly criticize Mamdani, New York City’s new socialist mayor, for his voluntary-only homeless policies (no sweeps, resistance to mandated shelter), even as a winter cold snap leads to street deaths.

  “He favors a voluntary approach…and canceled any encampment sweeps…a lot of homeless people seem to want to stay on the streets. Despite…offers of services and beds. And despite the cold.” —Joe Getty [27:09]

• Big Tax Hikes:
  Proposed 10% property tax increase and calls for increased taxes on corporations and the wealthy. Parallel drawn to California’s proposal for a one-time billionaire tax.

  “That’s a pretty big jump in property taxes, obviously. A lot of people would move…” —Jack Armstrong [32:59] “1% of the highest earners pay 40% of the income taxes currently, while 40% pay nothing. What point do you get to 'fair'?” —Jack Armstrong [33:09]

• Ideological Cabinet:
  Mamdani’s hiring of anti-Israel and police abolitionist activists (noted via Free Beacon reports).

  “The list also includes…a community engagement training specialist who said the Jewish state amounts to modern day Nazi Germany. This is his administration.” —Joe Getty [32:23]

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5. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• AOC’s “Word Salad” The hosts play a clip of AOC's rambling, non-answer to a foreign policy question, joking about her inability to respond coherently:

  “If you find yourself uttering this string…your next four words are 'sorry, I don’t know,' it’s your only choice.” —Joe Getty [35:19]

• Bruce Springsteen’s Political Rants Poking fun at aging rock stars weighing in on democracy and freedom:

  “Those are going to be some insufferable shows. I’ll bet it’s the last time that Bruce and the East Street Band tour…” —Jack Armstrong [36:25]
  “The only rocking he’s doing is in a chair.” —Joe Getty [37:08]

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6. Humorous Segment: “Three Danger Sounds” in Nature

[41:32–46:27]

• Danger Sounds:
  The trio (Jack, Joe, producer Katie) riff on viral advice about three sounds in the wild that mean “run for your life”: a tree about to fall, a tornado, and ice cracking.

  “If you hear someone eating celery in a tree area…run for your lives!” —Joe Getty [45:59]
  “The highlight of that, of course, was his description of where one might find trees—just a wooded area.” —Jack Armstrong [46:10]

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Additional Noteworthy Segments

• Budget Perspective:
  New York City’s proposed budget exceeds that of the entire state of Florida (with 3x the population):

  “$127 billion vs $117 billion”—Jack Armstrong [41:48]

• Deficit Warning:
  Mention of the federal government’s unsustainable debt path, with interest costs and insolvency threats—but with a resigned fatalism about change:

  “That’s really the biggest story in America. But you can’t get anybody to pay attention to that under any circumstances.”—Jack Armstrong [43:29]

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Conclusion

This episode blends topical commentary on health, personal choice, and government overreach with the hosts’ trademark humor and cynicism. Whether skewering political figures, parsing the health panic of the week, or unraveling economic absurdities, Armstrong & Getty deliver sharp insights with laughs—asking tough questions about where personal responsibility ends and societal intervention begins.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:48] Main topic intro—ultra-processed foods, Kessler/60 Minutes
• [04:36] Litigation industry critique
• [07:14] RFK Jr. clip and response
• [08:03] Personal responsibility & processed food
• [10:00] Potato chips as “processed food” debate
• [12:05] Slippery slope of suing companies for unhealthy food
• [17:19] Olympic athlete pressure (Malinin)
• [19:41] Shia LaBeouf’s Mardi Gras meltdown
• [26:00] New York political developments (Mamdani)
• [32:59] Property tax and mobility debate
• [35:00] AOC’s rambling clip
• [36:01] Bruce Springsteen political tour joke
• [41:32] “Three Sounds” joke segment
• [43:29] Federal budget/interest costs warning

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Tone: Informal, irreverent, skeptical, heavily seasoned with humor, but attentive to real societal concerns.
For new listeners: This episode is representative of Armstrong & Getty’s mix of timely critique and lighthearted banter, filled with side comments, pop culture references, and contrarian views on government and the culture wars.

Transcript

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[Tara Davis Woodhull]

Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty. In terms of a public health crisis, how does this compare with tobacco? It's as large, if not larger. It's that significant. The scale of this, this affects everybody. Understand? Not everybody smoked. Look at the number of people who consume ultra processed food. It touches all of us. That's David Kessler, I believe, who was on 60 Minutes the other night being interviewed by the incredibly slow talking Bill Whitaker. When you go to work for 60 Minutes, is that what they drum into your head?

[Joe Getty]

It's a two week trading academy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. You need to talk slower, Jack. Talk slower.

[Joe Getty]

Speak slowly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, I'll slow down a lot slower than that. I will slow down. Not even close. Slower. I will slow down. That's about.

[Joe Getty]

You're getting it. Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

I realize they have an older audience for 60 minutes, but does it need to be that slow for people to take it in anyway? That was not the point of this segment.

[Joe Getty]

Bill Whitaker asking Scott Pelly, where do you want to go to lunch?

[Jack Armstrong]

Where do I want to go to lunch?

[Joe Getty]

Where should we. Good Lord. Yes. An hour later.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hour later at the Olive Garden. You just begin the ordering process. They'll be closed before you're done. So 60 Minutes, they're opening piece. I thought it was kind of interesting because this lawyer dude. Now keep in mind, he was involved in suing Big Tobacco. He probably made a gazillion dollars. And now he thinks he can sue even bigger companies who are behind all of these ultra processed food products and become a gazillionaire 20 times over. Doesn't mean he's wrong about this, but his enthusiasm might be driven by the dollar signs. And they had him with RFK Jr 60 Minutes. You know who's gotta hate RFK Jr although this is the new Bari Weiss, 60 Minutes. RFK Jr talking about ultra processed foods over and over again and how bad they are for us. And everybody agreeing on the opening story of 60 Minutes. Here's a little more from that piece. Over the last 40 years, the United States has been exposed to something that our biology was never intended to handle. Energy dense, highly palatable, rapidly absorbable, ultra processed foods that have altered our metabolism and have resulted in the greatest increase in chronic disease in our history. Type 2 diabetes, prediabetes, hypertension abnormal lipids, fatty liver heart attacks, stroke, heart failure. From our food. From our food. The way they presented on 60 Minutes is the question that we've all been wrestling with for the past roughly 40 years is why is everybody so fat all of a sudden? Is this. Our bodies were not meant to take in this. They've reacted poorly to it, to our new diet. That in terms of like evolution is the blink of an eye. I mean, obviously. And all of a sudden, you know, the beast is taking, you know, cattle out there, grazing on grass or whatever, all of a sudden you're feeding them potato chips. They are going to be different than they were in the past, guaranteed. In what way? I don't know, but they would be different because they're taking in different food. And then.

[Joe Getty]

But I think RFK is a greedy trial lawyer who's taken a brief break to influence government policy to make it easier for greedy lawyers. And he's right about this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Speaking of RFK, let's hear from him on 60 Minutes Sunday night. And then we'll discuss.

[Joe Getty]

70% of Americans are either obese or overweight. And it's not because they got indolent or because we became lazy or because we suddenly developed giant appetites. It's because we're being given food that is low in nutrition and high in calories and it's making, it's destroying our health. I see it when I go across the country.

[Jack Armstrong]

Can you say indolent or lazy? But his point is eating all this crappy food. And so this kind of sounds the same to me as the social media trial that's going on today. Are the companies not allowed to make the yummiest food they possibly can, regardless of health? And then we decide whether or not we want to eat it.

[Joe Getty]

Nutrient dense, easily absorbable. I can't remember all those terms they used, but yeah, again, this is one of those people just need to be aware and then govern their own lives accordingly. But I've become convinced and we're working in my house to wean ourselves off of this sort of stuff. But you got to become convinced. This stuff is crap. It's terrible for me. I'm not going to eat it. It's yummy, it's convenient, it's cheap. But it'll kill me. So no.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I have the problem of as a guy who doesn't really cook single, full time single dad stuff that's in a sack that stays fresh on the shelf forever, I fill my pantry full of this stuff and it's there.

[Joe Getty]

Do you know about the rotisserie chickens. Get the rotisserie chicken.

[Jack Armstrong]

You can do anything with it. God, if we had a Costco right next to me, I'd be eating that every single day. Cheap, too. So you know more about this sort of stuff than me. One of the things they talked about that you've talked about a lot is if you look at the ingredients, and it's a list of 15 things you can't pronounce and you've never heard of, you shouldn't be eating it. Makes sense. But then I was looking and. But they. They kept showing lays as a company. And potato chips. I was looking at lay's potato chips last night. Remember, they advertised a lot during the Super Bowl. I think now. Now I think it's pretty clear they're trying to get ahead of this. So lay's Potato Chips had several ads at the super bowl made from potatoes. Hey, got a new bag that looks kind of healthy. They're trying to get ahead of this whole anti ultra processed food craze that's kicking off. Anyway, I was looking at my lay's potato chips. Here's the ingredients. I was expecting a long list. Another tangent. They kept showing my favorite nutrition bar that I ate for.

[Joe Getty]

God.

[Jack Armstrong]

I ate these every morning for probably a decade. Those green Nature Valley ones, They're like hitting a freaking candy bar. I mean, I just. I was fooled by the. The word granola, the green label.

[Joe Getty]

Nature Valley.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, the word nature.

[Joe Getty]

How could anything bad come out of Nature Valley?

[Jack Armstrong]

That's not healthy at all. I ate those every day instead of Pop Tarts. I could have kept eating the Pop Tarts. It wouldn't have made much difference. Probably. But anyway, back to the potato chips. The ingredients in lay's potato chips, potatoes, vegetable oil and salt. That's the only ingredients.

[Joe Getty]

Slow down. I'm making.

[Jack Armstrong]

But it's so. That's still an awful ultra processed food I shouldn't eat, even though it's only got three ingredients. And I know what potatoes, vegetable oil and salt are.

[Joe Getty]

No, that's just fatty potatoes. Not everything that's bad for you is bad for you because it's ultra processed.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, but I mean, like, gobbling arsenic.

[Joe Getty]

Would be very bad for you, but it's not ultra processed.

[Jack Armstrong]

But specifically, they were talking about ultra processed, and they kept showing lays potato chips. So I was just surprised. Oh, really?

[Tara Davis Woodhull]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my gosh. Well, that's misleading.

[Jack Armstrong]

Huh?

[Joe Getty]

That's an editorial decision.

[Jack Armstrong]

I assumed that everything that came in a plastic bag like that, that stays fresh for 8,000 years until you open it was.

[Joe Getty]

It's airtight.

[Jack Armstrong]

Was amazing. Ultra processed. But I guess it's not.

[Joe Getty]

No.

[Jack Armstrong]

No. Huh. Will we, Will we learn our lesson? Do. Does the government need to outlaw this stuff? Just like. Again, I, I see a real similarity. Similarity between this and the Instagram Facebook conversation they're having today in Los Angeles. Just because it's, it's addictive and bad for you, the companies can't make it. I really don't know where you draw the line on this stuff. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Getting back to the plaintiff's attorney thing. The truth is that plaintiff's attorneys often uncover legitimate liability and dangerous products and unhealthy stuff and that sort of thing. The problem is that there are herds of them galloping across the land, you know, trampling and gobbling up everything in their path and making it impossible to live and work and start a business in America. I just, I think their influence is ultimately mostly negative. I would just, you know, to me it's about awareness and then making intelligent decisions.

[Jack Armstrong]

But if it, but if it's going to be just. If it's unhealthy for you, the company should be sued out of existence. Well, where are you going to stop? You're going to all fast food restaurants, going to close down? Nobody should ever eat at McDonald's. I. We ate there the other night and it was delicious. But why is McDonald's exist if you're going to have this conversation about ultra.

[Joe Getty]

Processed foods, how can you possibly justify the existence of a candy bar?

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

For instance, I, I would love it.

[Jack Armstrong]

If my grocery store didn't have any of that stuff. It'd make it harder for me to buy it. I'd buy less of it, but I don't want to live in a world where, you know, it's outlawed.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. I do believe the, the core message about Ultra Process.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sure. Absolutely.

[Joe Getty]

And I am no health trend chaser. Look at me.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I'm. It got my attention, that 60 Minutes piece and number of charts and stats and that sort of stuff. I'm gonna try to get away from that stuff that's just so convenient.

[Joe Getty]

I'm gonna open up a Whole Foods. But for people who are cynical about health trends, it's going to be called a Whole Food.

[Jack Armstrong]

What do you think? So, yeah. Yeah, you're right. So you won't have the really awful for you stuff. But it doesn't have to be clear over on this side.

[Joe Getty]

Right?

[Jack Armstrong]

We're not gonna walk around eating wheat. German kale. Come on.

[Joe Getty]

It's not gonna be huge organic sections because that doesn't mean anything anyway. Look, rinse it off. It'll be fine. It's spinach. You came here for spinach? Get the spinach organic, please.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do you have any thoughts on any of that in terms of suing these companies? Boy, they see some big paydays company coming, don't they? Oh yeah.

[Joe Getty]

See that's, that's the unholy part of all this. I agree with the message and, but I don't want them on my side. Yeah, the predators that have made it impossible, like I said, to do business in America. Kids can't run on the playground at school because if somebody falls, somebody gets sued, that sort of thing. I just, I don't want to be on that side.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Tara Davis Woodhull]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

Ilya Malinin, reflecting on the pressure of.

[Jack Armstrong]

Coming in as the gold medal favorite.

[Joe Getty]

And the disappointment of finishing eighth.

[Jack Armstrong]

It was just devastating in the moment. I just felt like I let myself down.

[Joe Getty]

I let the people I care about down.

[Jack Armstrong]

He told us some of the world's best athletes have reached out.

[Joe Getty]

Simone Biles, Tom Brady, Steph Curry really the only people who can relate to the pressure.

[Jack Armstrong]

It definitely started as soon as I got to the Olympics. It really just started building up more and more. Were you surprised by how different Olympic ice?

[Tara Davis Woodhull]

Really surprised it was, you know, caught.

[Jack Armstrong]

Me off guard, honestly. That's interesting. So greatest ever at his sport falls in his biggest competition ever, just from the pressure. Tom Brady gives him a call. Steph Curry gives him a call. Simone Biles, who fell a whole bunch of times. The Olympics, remember that?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'll call him up and say, hey, been there. That's interesting.

[Joe Getty]

That's great. That's really, really cool. I respect him for that. I once saw a, a, what do you call it? A montage of Michael Jordan's missed game winning shots. And it went on and on, but he just kept shooting. And that's, you know, that's what happens. You are going to fail. Sometimes I, I feel bad for the.

[Jack Armstrong]

Kid, but I don't think Michael Jordan was one of those people that ever like got into the. Oh boy, I'm gonna let everybody down if I miss this heads thing.

[Joe Getty]

Short armed it and left it four feet short. No, no, it is a different, different thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. Or if they, if they ever do, they don't, they don't admit it out loud, I guess. Speaking of the Olympics, Lindsay Vaughn with her fourth surgery on her leg now back in the United States. The way they're wording things, I think that that's a. Is she ever going to be able to walk again like a normal person sort of injury that they don't want to, you know, put a fine point on yet, but as a bad one.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I'll bet you will. But it could be, you know, akin to like when Tiger woods had that serious leg injury and his fell asleep on ambient car crash. That was not a simple throw it in a cast six weeks later, you're fine. It's a serious, serious injury.

[Jack Armstrong]

They dated. Did you use that example on purpose?

[Joe Getty]

I didn't actually. Were a couple may have been there in the file in my head, but.

[Jack Armstrong]

What I know the name Shia LaBeouf. He's a movie star. I don't remember seeing him anything. Why is she LaBeouf famous? Was he a famous.

[Joe Getty]

I believe it's Shia LaBeouf.

[Jack Armstrong]

Whatever.

[Joe Getty]

Shia LaBeouf. Say it with me.

[Jack Armstrong]

You say buff. What's he famous for, Katie? He was in Transformers. Transformers.

[Joe Getty]

He was in it. He was a Nickelodeon, the biggest franchise on earth for half wits. Sorry. People who like escapist entertainment is what I meant to say. No action movies are. I watch golf on tv. Who am I to judge anybody?

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't want to run out of time for talking about Shia LaBeouf. He was a Disney kid.

[Joe Getty]

That was.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sorry. He was a Disney kid. That's how he came up. Oh. Anyway, anyway, now he's. He's been a drunk for quite a while and had all kinds of problems with being a drunk and he admits to being a drunk and he's claimed various times he was sober. Clearly not this weekend in New Orleans as he went there specifically for Mardi Gras. Not a good idea if you are a drunk and you're struggling with it to go to Mardi Gras. But night one yesterday, so it's the lunar new year and the kickoff of Marty Gras. He gets super drunk for whatever reason, takes off his shirt at this bar, jumps behind the bar and says he's gonna be a celebrity bartender. They tell him to get out of there. He says, no, I'm gonna be a celebrity. Anyway, it turns into a fight. He ends up fighting four guys and getting the hell beat out of him. It's all on video. You can watch it if you want. And they, they actually treated him pretty well. They kept like holding him down. Now stay down, you freaking idiot. And he would jump up and start swinging again. And they punch him in the face and knock him down. Stay down. And he would jump up again and fight you. Anyway, he ends up getting arrested, thrown in jail. He's got good lawyers because he's a super rich movie star. He gets out. Six hours later, he gets out of jail. And of course paparazzi is there. They follow him as he jogs, probably still drunk, two miles from the jail to the parade site. Gets a beer and a weird hat and joints in the party. Fresh out of jail. Wow. Now that's a guy who can't be stopped.

[Joe Getty]

Boy, he's a drunk, but he's a really, really good one. I'm sapped. I'm exhausted. At that point. They let me out of jail, man. I'm walking hang dog, shame faced, ass dragging back to my hotel, questioning my life choices.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, yeah, not only just the physical feeling of drunk hung over, all that, the. Yeah, okay, so I got kicked out of the bar because I jumped behind the bar and embarrassed everybody. Embarrassed myself. Guys had to restrain me. Then I tried to fight them. I was wearing no shirt. Nope. None of that left a mark on him. He runs all the way back to the parade site with a beer in his hand in moments. And there he was spotted drinking again.

[Joe Getty]

Like he just had to go take a leak. And now he's back to the party. Beautiful, Shia.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, that is some lifestyle.

[Joe Getty]

That story ends badly, doesn't it?

[Jack Armstrong]

Probably, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Speaking of stories that will end badly, a Zoran Mumdani update coming up. Holy cow. The little commies in charge of New York and doing well. Exactly what everybody thought he would do that much more to come. Stay with us.

[Tara Davis Woodhull]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, wow. Which I'm not sure the last word is. You're all nuts. Like, that's just. Oh my God.

[Joe Getty]

Thank you, Kevin.

[Jack Armstrong]

Guys, am I in on that?

[Joe Getty]

We got to keep it together here, okay? Honestly, I mean, there's. There's a way to talk about these things. If you don't have anything to say, just say that I won't come to you next.

[Jack Armstrong]

What are they talking about? That nobody. Nobody was watching, I'm sure.

[Joe Getty]

An insufferable frequency and battle that nobody was watching Discussing Zoran Mumdani's intended giant tax hikes. Close. Anyway, yeah, America's favorite little. I just came up with this Islam younist.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay?

[Joe Getty]

He is a Islamist communist. The Red Green alliance in one person trying to bring down the United States and the fools of New York voted for him. Before we get to the tax thing, which is getting a lot of attention, this from Nellie Bowles and the Free press. Well, that's one way to solve homelessness. New York socialist mayor Zoran Mamdani believes it's wrong to force homeless folks into treatment facilities or hold them against their will since that's carceral, meaning like incarceration. He's opposed to enforcement. Encampment sweeps rather fits in an encampment. Assume this administration is for it. He favors a voluntary approach to services and canceled any encampment sweeps. You won't believe this, but a lot of homeless people seem to want to stay on the streets. Despite officers offers of services and beds. And despite the cold. Okay, so in just a few days of a cold snap, 19 people died of the cold on the streets of New York. That's a lot. That's more people than died in the aftermath of Hurricane Ida in 2021. I guess it's one way to solve homelessness. Too dark. Thank goodness he didn't do something cruel like encampment sweeps that might put them into a warm treatment center for the winter against their will. Uh, the city's head of homeless services handed in her resignation this week. Uh, and, well, they go into details about how he just won't force anybody to do anything if they want to live on the streets, including die. And this includes some profoundly mentally ill people.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, and a whole bunch of drug addicts, which hasn't been mentioned.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. And here's how Nellie Bowles. Here's the other thing she said. Elsewhere, New York Times hard hitting coverage of the mayor the past few weeks has been ruthless. Here's the headline for a new winter coat. New York's mayor consulted his wife as he dealt with a major snowstorm. Zoran Mandami appeared in a personalized Carhartt jacket designed with the help of the first lady. There you go. That's your New York Times coverage.

[Jack Armstrong]

Personalized Carhartt jacket. Oh, my God.

[Joe Getty]

So back to the 10% tax increase in New York City property tax increase. Because Zoron says you got to do that unless the governor increases taxes on corporations and the wealthy. Higher taxes for rich corporations and individuals remain his first choice. Mondame said, blah, blah, blah, because that's the only way to pay for his lavish budget. And back to the idiots and Kevin O', Leary, Mr. Wonderful of the Shark Tank show, arguing about it on CNN.

[Tara Davis Woodhull]

So I guess he's asking what's a 2% tax increase on a multi millionaire.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you're already the highest tax jurisdiction in America? It's a massive tax. You know what I love about this guy? And I'm giving him credit. He goes big. He goes big. And he's got a fantastic social media team. This is great. This is bat poopoo crazy what he is proposing. And probably sometime next year, within 12 to 18 months, I will meet him in Miami and give him real estate agents a year award. Because I'm not happy with what's happening. I can't get across the bridge anymore. I live in Miami Beach. Everybody from New York and New Jersey and Massachusetts is moving into my neighborhood. I'm pissed off. And this guy's just doing more of it. What he's proposing is beyond insane. But I love it.

[Joe Getty]

You are very.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm like everybody else. I'm count. Listen, you guys live here, you're not paying your fair share.

[Joe Getty]

I don't live here.

[Jack Armstrong]

You've got to pay 110%. That's the right thing to do. Because he's not cutting snack. He's just going to tax you into oblivion. This reminds me, I was reading this article in the Wall Street Journal during the commercial break. So Bernie is out in California days in Los Angeles doing speeches about the billionaire tax that they're trying to get through. And then we would vote on in California. And that's a one time emergency 5% tax on billionaires.

[Joe Getty]

Hilarious.

[Jack Armstrong]

One time emergency though, wouldn't become a regular thing. And then start sliding down the, in the, the wealth range from billionaires to millionaires to whoever else.

[Joe Getty]

It's a temporary tax, but they're talking.

[Jack Armstrong]

About how Brin from Google. Is that who he's with? Anyway, he, he left the state and Peter Thiel's talking about leaving and then, and, and there's one of the points in the Wall Street Journal is just how easy it is for these billionaires to decide. Well, if you're gonna, if you're gonna hit me with a 5% tax, that's so much money, I'm gonna move.

[Joe Getty]

Zuckerberg just bought a property in South.

[Jack Armstrong]

Florida and that's what that guy was talking about there with the New Yorkers. And it's happening in California, it's happening in New York with state taxes. It's just so easy for people to just leave the state.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, it is super easy. Here are a handful more Mamdani headlines New York City health staffer posted about Israelis and Jews.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, left this part out. It should be obvious, but in case you didn't think about it, in case Gavin Newsom didn't think about it. And when those people leave, then you get nothing. You not only don't get your 5% extra, you don't get any of that other. You don't get nothing. They're now paying, they're now paying state tax somewhere else or in some states, none.

[Joe Getty]

Headline from the Free Beacon. Mamdani hires slew of anti Israel activists, including Brooklyn borough director who praised the heroes ripping down Israeli hostage posters and an advisor who led the college divestment movement. The list also includes a policy analyst who accused Israel of terrorism and a community engagement training specialist who said the Jewish state amounts to modern day Nazi Germany. This is his administration. And there's the quite the list of the hardcore Islamists in particular. Yeah, the guy praised people tearing down the posters of the hostages as heroes and he's now a highly placed member of Mandani's cabinet. Unbelievable. He is America's favorite little Islamist, Zoran Mamdani.

[Jack Armstrong]

So that would be a pretty big jump in property taxes, obviously. And a lot of people would, would move if that happened.

[Joe Getty]

They're already sky High.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

10% on top of that. Woof.

[Jack Armstrong]

But in California, where they're trying to do the 5% billionaire tax, they make the point in the Wall Street Journal that in terms of the whole rich paying more into the system, there are fair share. 1% of the highest earners pay 40% of the income taxes currently, while 40% pay nothing. So 1% pays 40%. 40% pay nothing. what point do you get to fair if you don't think that's. If you think that's not fair. In terms of the rich are getting a free pass, 1% are paying 40% of the tax. Yeah, yeah. What should it be? What would be the right number for you?

[Joe Getty]

Here's another Mamdani staffer who's again in a position of power, who not only is a hardcore down with Jews, up with Palestine, but posted blah blah blah. The only way forward is to defund and abolish the police. I mean every single penny. Anyone who tells you otherwise is okay with murder, as usual. She's a member, longtime member, of the Democratic Socialists of America and people are falling for this garbage. Wow, these are weird times. Yeah, he's got a great social media presence.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, the whole income inequality thing, that's a good one for getting people all worked up. Somebody else has got more than me. That ain't fair. They should give some of it to me.

[Joe Getty]

Get 82 ready. Because I think AOC, the spokeswoman for the new generation of socialists, sought to stand up and explain yourself. How can you justify Mum Johnny hiring these people?

[Tara Davis Woodhull]

You know, I think that this is such a.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, I think that this is a.

[Joe Getty]

Words to remember.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's unedited, by the way.

[Joe Getty]

It is. Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

That was her answer to what if China attacks Taiwan? Would the United States come to Taiwan's defense while she was over at the big conference specifically to talk about that sort of stuff?

[Joe Getty]

If you find yourself uttering this string.

[Tara Davis Woodhull]

Of noises, you know, I think that this is such a.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, I think that this is a.

[Joe Getty]

Your next four words are sorry, I don't know, it's your only choice, or.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my gosh, or I did it, you caught me. Or depending on what the situation is.

[Joe Getty]

This is the perfect opportunity. Ladies and gentlemen, it's the next clip in line. Michael, America's bard, the man who's been singing about the working class for his entire career, the great Bruce Springsteen.

[Jack Armstrong]

We are living through dark, disturbing and dangerous Times. But do not despair. The Calvary is coming. Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band will be taking the stage this spring. We will be rocking your town in celebration and in defense of America.

[Joe Getty]

American democracy, American freedom, our American Constitution.

[Jack Armstrong]

And our sacred American dream, all of which are under attack by our wannabe king and his rogue government in Washington, dc. Those are going to be some insufferable shows. I'll bet it's the last time that Bruce and the East Street Band tour, which would be a pretty good reason, if you're a Springsteen fan, to maybe go out. But it's going to be insufferable. It's going to have many long political rants from elderly Bruce Springsteen, too old to realize how long he's been going on and how much he's lost the crowd in between songs. The only rocking he's doing is in a chair. Exactly.

[Joe Getty]

Michael, you got him.

[Jack Armstrong]

Bingo. Oh.

[Joe Getty]

Wasn't a showstopper, but it certainly.

[Jack Armstrong]

And they're all. And they're all like 80 years old. Oh, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. They're old as the hills. It's funny, I. I don't want to see bands in their final moments that I saw in their prime. I. I know some people do. And if you want to, that's great. You saw the Stones or whatever. Great band at the end. I just. I'd rather remember it the way it was, but that's just me.

[Jack Armstrong]

What if you'd never saw him before, though?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, go ahead.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why not?

[Joe Getty]

I never. Although you're seeing a tarnished image, a tarnished version.

[Jack Armstrong]

I saw Bruce Knee street band in 2006, 2007. It was really good. It was really good. I mean, that's almost 20 years ago that I saw him, so he was a lot. That's a long time. Yeah. I mean, there's a difference between being 60 and 80.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Here.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here. He was still spinning around the microphone stand and all that sort of stuff. I don't think he's doing that now. If you saw that video from where he fell over last tour, they had to come pick him up.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

He was so.

[Joe Getty]

Not a good look.

[Jack Armstrong]

He was so. Trust into his vest to try to, like, still look like a cool, studly guy. You could tell it was like the girdle underneath his hang everything. So he was so stiff when he fell over, they had to come pick him up and he was like a. It was like a stiff mummy. They picked him up by the arms. He's like one piece. It just went up.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my gosh.

[Jack Armstrong]

So if that's what you want to see enjoyed again with every other song. A long speech about Trump, the King or whatever. Thank you Bruce. Okay, we got more on the way. Stay here.

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Is US Olympic gold medalist Tara Davis Woodhull and I'm US Paralympic gold medalist Hunter Woodhull. As athletes, our lives are about having a clear path and a team that.

[Jack Armstrong]

You can absolutely trust.

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[Joe Getty]

There are three sounds that if you hear in the wild, you are in serious danger. Run for your life. Those three sounds coming up in a moment. Stay with us.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, this segment, unless you're eaten by a bear.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, is that a hint? Stay with us.

[Jack Armstrong]

We feel it's our job every day to depress you and make you wonder why you got out of. Got out of bed, or at least it seems like. So we think that's what our job is. First of all, Mamdani's budget that we were just talking about and the taxes and that sort of stuff, the budget for the city of New York, with his plan for, you know, free buses and all the different things he's offering for free, is significantly more than Florida's state budget, which has three times the population. Wow. 127 billion versus 117 billion. So New York City alone $10 billion more than the entire state of Florida for their budget, which is kind of interesting. And speaking of spending, because this is what I really wanted to get to. This is the depressing, you know, thing, the crfb, whatever they are, they're one of your nonpartisan panels that look at spending and that sort of stuff, said that without immediate legislative intervention, which there will not be, the federal government faces a future defined by exploding interest costs, insolvent trust funds, and a national debt burden that will shatter post World War II records within four years. So I guess the reason that stuff never lands is they've been telling me within a couple of years my whole life, and we do oftentimes kind of grow our way out of it or find a way to kick the can.

[Joe Getty]

Down the road or so inflate the, the currency supply that that debt no longer looks big.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

If you completely devalue the currency. You borrowed a thousand dollars. Now, hell, it costs you a thousand dollars to go out to dinner. Who cares? That's a specific strategy, folks. Inflation is a tax.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. So that's really the biggest story in America. But you can't get anybody to pay attention to that under any circumstances. And we've known that for many, many years. So I'd probably be better off knowing three Frightening sounds that I should run for my life if I hear them, since nobody's gonna do anything about the national debt.

[Joe Getty]

Jack, if you hear these three sounds in nature, you're in terrible danger.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now, are we gonna hear these one at a time or all three back to back? How's we gonna hear this? I need to be prepared.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, it'll be three sounds. It's three basic sounds, back to back to back. Hey, brace yourself. There's terror here. Friends, let's hear it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ah.

[Joe Getty]

Is that wind? Now, the first sound again, the same sound. Did you listen to this?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

The hell's the matter with you? Tell you what. I know three sounds to be terrified of if you're a radio host.

[Jack Armstrong]

The sound of your audience switching to another station.

[Joe Getty]

It all makes sense.

[Jack Armstrong]

Katie, do you have any guess we're gonna hear?

[Joe Getty]

I don't have a guess. The first time we're gonna hear rattlesnakes and. And growling mountain lions or something.

[Jack Armstrong]

We hear what a.

[Joe Getty]

A windy day. And ice cracking.

[Jack Armstrong]

That part I get ice cracking. The first one, I thought it was like stepping on branches or something. Something big and heavy is a tree.

[Joe Getty]

If you're ever in a tree area and you hear this sound.

[Jack Armstrong]

A tree area.

[Joe Getty]

Hey, hey. It means the tree is about to use an environmentalist.

[Jack Armstrong]

The tree is about to fall into you. If you're ever in a tree. You know, a place with trees. Yes, a place of trees. You're not making it better. You're not making it better. All right.

[Joe Getty]

What the hell was the second.

[Jack Armstrong]

The second one was wind. The woods or forest? Do you mean that a tree area? Yeah. Well, here's the second one.

[Joe Getty]

All right.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right.

[Joe Getty]

What is that? Allegedly, that is a tornado that is nearby and approaching.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay. Oh, sounds like wind. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Lay down flat in the ditch.

[Jack Armstrong]

On the. On the radio, it does just kind of sound like really windy, but I. I've heard a tornado up close. It is quite frightening.

[Joe Getty]

And played the third one, which is the same as the first one. Oh, once again, back in the tree area.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, that's the second one. Eating celery.

[Joe Getty]

Well, if you're ever walking on ice.

[Jack Armstrong]

Trying to save your lives. You hear someone eating celery in a tree area.

[Joe Getty]

Run for your lives. If you're ever walking on ice.

[Public Investing Announcer]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And you hear that go the other way. Yeah. Yes.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Carefully and slowly.

[Jack Armstrong]

I feel safer already. Wow. The highlight of that, of course, was his description of where one might find trees. Yes. Just a wooded area.

[Joe Getty]

Well, believe it or not, there's one more hour of this spectacular infotainment available. You don't get it via the radio or whatever. Grab it by podcast subscribe to Armstrong. You get on demand.

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