A Trio of Ghouls

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: A Trio of Ghouls

Date: May 19, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Armstrong & Getty dissect the media and activist frenzy surrounding the courtroom proceedings of accused killer Luigi Mangione, offering scathing social commentary on radical activism, political violence, justified outrage, and the problem of platforming destructive ideologies. The show pivots toward a discussion of constructive messages for young people, centering on an acclaimed commencement address by country singer Eric Church. As always, the hosts blend biting satire with earnest reflection.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Mangione Case: Courtroom Spectacle & Activist Extremes

[02:59–16:56]

• The Crime and Evidence:

  • Mangione is accused of killing United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson; prosecutors have damning evidence, including the weapon and a confession notebook.
  • Media frenzy includes unusual spectacle: attractive women and “fake media people” in costumes outside the courtroom, some as “Luigi” from Mario Bros.

• The Trio of Activist Journalists:

  • Three women with press credentials seized the spotlight, expressing ghoulish glee over Thompson’s murder and engaging in incendiary rhetoric.
  • Memorable Moment:
    • “Michael, his children are better off without him. They need to learn to not be like their dad and enjoy the blood money, kids.” – Activist Speaker, [05:14]
    • “I'm standing on business. F. Brian Thompson. I don't give a F that he died.” – April Rios, [05:58]
    • “Millions of Americans suffer every single day... So if you guys are okay with someone like Ryan Thompson being around... you look absolutely monstrous defending someone like that. Participates in social murder. That's what, mass social murder.” – Lena Weisbrot, paraphrased [06:34]
  • The hosts condemn “social murder” doctrine as Maoist and dangerous, where murder is justified by accusing corporations of killing by policy.

• Violent Rhetoric & False Analogies:

  • The activists cite “heroic violence,” draw comparisons to Osama Bin Laden, and rationalize political violence via the Second Amendment.
    • “He's responsible for more deaths than Osama bin Laden...” – Activist Speaker, [08:32]
    • “Why do we protect the Second Amendment so much? ...Is it for us to protect our democracy?” – Ashley Rojas, [09:19]
  • Hosts warn about the slippery slope of justifying political assassinations and criticize the city for legitimizing such press access.

• The Issue of Credentials & City Endorsement:

  • Jack cites a New York Post article examining how the activists got press credentials, criticizing the city for validating radical voices.
    • “Apparently all you need is a Substack and a lust for political violence.” – Jack Armstrong quoting article, [12:51]
  • The activists are linked to “Mamdani's Islamist staff,” reflecting the hosts’ theory on destructive alliances within city leadership.

• Commentary on Radicalization:

  • The hosts call for seriousness about the dangers of broadcasting ideology that endorses violence:
    • “This is real. I've studied political movements since I was a child. These people are serious and people end up dead.” – Jack Armstrong, [16:37]
    • “You can't dismiss these idiots because if they cheer on some other idiot who shoots you, you're just as dead.” – Joe Getty, [08:19]
  • The media’s passive coverage is criticized: “You’d think advocating the murder of executives on the street would be roundly heckled or something, but it’s not. Didn’t even really make the news.” – Joe Getty, [16:43]

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2. NBA Finals: The Confidence of Youth

[19:42–22:59]

• The hosts break with the heavy topic to marvel at a bold NBA play by 22-year-old Victor Wembanyama, reflecting on youthful confidence.
  • “You shouldn't even be able to shoot three pointers at all. And I like this write up from the Athletic...” – Joe Getty, [21:29]
• Light banter about the challenges of maturing and building confidence.

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3. Aging, Habits & Quirks

[22:59–23:30]

• Joe confesses to reheating and drinking old coffee out of thrift rather than waste, joking about the absurdity of such habits.
  • “I come in every morning and I take yesterday’s coffee with cream in it... and I go heat it up and drink it. No, I do it every day because I don’t want to waste it.” – Joe Getty, [22:12]
• Jack teases him: “But did you live through the Depression? Twice.” [23:05]

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4. Graduation Speeches: Contrasting Messages

[28:07–33:46]

• The Problem with Political Commencement Speeches:

  • Hosts lament the self-indulgence and short-term focus of political diatribes at university graduations.
    • “That’s an incredible act of selfishness to make that your speech... That’s just trying to recruit people to your political side...” – Jack Armstrong, [32:46]

• Eric Church’s Acclaimed Address:

  • Audio from country star Eric Church's UNC commencement speech, focused on authenticity, honesty, and resilience.
  • Notable Quotes from Eric Church's Speech:
    • “You are made uniquely, wonderfully, distinctly. There's a sound only you can make. A voice that has never existed before you and will never exist again.” [29:28]
    • “The world does not need another cover song. It needs an original... When all six [strings] are in tune with each other, the cord your life makes is full and resonant and true...” [29:44]
    • “The difference between a life that sounds like music and a life that sounds like noise is whether you stop and listen, whether you’re honest enough to hear which string has drifted out of tune...” [30:44]
    • “Trust what your heart hears and is telling you about your song. So graduates. Now, I encourage you to take your six strings, make it something worth hearing, and play your song as I leave you with mine.” [31:43]
  • Armstrong & Getty praise Church’s speech as a “gift to the kids” and a refreshing antidote to politicized lectures.

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5. Reflections on Youth & Life Perspective

[35:04–38:38]

• Joe and Jack reminisce about observing young people brimming with energy and potential, pondering the arc of life and the role of perspective beyond current events.
  • “Don’t hit all those young people headed out of the world with what news story is popular today and who’s the evil guy in it. That’s not what you need to go out into the world. You need, like, overall perspective about the big things, like Eric Church’s speech.” – Joe Getty, [37:29]
• Discussion about the “selfishness” of speakers who focus on “the midterms” or topical grievances at such milestone events.

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6. International Affairs: Xi, Putin & Authoritarian Symbols

[26:49–28:07]

• Brief segment on Chinese President Xi Jinping, his comparison to Winnie the Pooh, and the seriousness (and absurdities) of geopolitics.

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7. Social Commentary & Humor

[42:18–47:12]

• Quick-fire chats about viral animal stories (“Punch the Monkey”), online culture, hazards of distracted walking, and the need to pay attention to the world around us.

  • “Look out for manholes.” – Jack Armstrong, [48:00]

• Reflection on mental rest versus nonstop learning, poking fun at advice from Elon Musk.

  • “You squeezed out the time for me to lay out the most sobering and ugly subject on the face of the earth. Maybe next hour.” – Jack Armstrong, [48:50]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On media activism and violence:
  • “You can't dismiss these idiots because if they cheer on some other idiot who shoots you, you're just as dead.” – Joe Getty, [08:19]
  • “They credential these women because they agree with them. They're not young fools. They're activists...” – Jack Armstrong, [14:32]
• On existential graduation advice:
  • “The part of you that knows what the chord should sound like will always notice. Life won't be right until it is tuned.” – Eric Church, [30:44]
• Social commentary:
  • “You can’t be cynical enough about big government.” – Jack Armstrong, [44:30]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Mangione case & activist spectacle: [02:59–16:56]
• Young people justifying violence (“social murder”): [06:34, 08:32]
• City’s role in activist credentialing: [12:51–14:32]
• Eric Church’s commencement speech (audio): [29:28–31:43]
• Reflection on importance of authentic graduation messages: [32:46–37:31]

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Tone and Style

• Biting, Concerned, and Satirical: The hosts approach the darker elements with sardonic humor but express genuine alarm about the societal implications.
• Conversational: True to their format, Jack and Joe riff conversationally, oscillating between outrage and affable banter.
• Earnest Reflection: Their appreciation for Eric Church’s speech and advice to graduates is sincere, valuing perspective and personal growth over political posturing.

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Summary Takeaway

This episode of Armstrong & Getty dives deep into the dangers of normalizing violent political rhetoric and elevates the importance of authentic, life-affirming messages, especially for the next generation. It’s a blend of cutting social critique and moments of real inspiration—serving as both a warning and a call for more substance in public conversation.

Transcript

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broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[News Reporter]

Accused killer Luigi Mangione entered a New York courtroom today where a judge ruled some of the most damning evidence can be used against him at trial. That includes this gun, which prosecutors said matches the one used to kill United Healthcare chief executive Brian Thompson on a New York City sidewalk. And this red notebook that prosecutors described as a confession Mangioni wrote about wanting to whack the CEO of the greed fueled health insurance cartel.

[Joe Getty]

The fact that there were hot chicks waiting outside the courtroom to cheer for Mangione is about as depressing as anything I can imagine.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, there were a couple of different groups or descriptions. First of all, you had, as Jack charmingly described, just good looking women who wanted to get in to like see him and maybe catch his eye. Some of them dressed as the video game Luigi from the. What's its game?

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay.

[Joe Getty]

Mario Brothers.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. So you got that brand of wackadoodle and then a different sort of just utterly waste of skin. Jackass. These three fake media people who you may have seen already, three attractive youngish females all dressed very differently, interestingly enough. And I'll get to why I mentioned that. But all fetchingly as attractive young women who came out with their city, issued press credentials around their necks and proceeded to make statements to the assembled media. Now, do you know how hard it

[Joe Getty]

would have been to get a press credential for that yesterday? I mean, that was like one of maybe the biggest media story of the day. So everybody was trying to get in there. Why did these three chicks get in there?

[Jack Armstrong]

I will get into that very thing. But first of all, let's hear what some of them had to say about the cold blooded murder on the pavement of young father Brian Thompson by a confused young man who thought something, something. Health care insurance companies are bad. We'll just start with 31 and roll from there.

[Show Producer/Announcer]

Michael, his children are better off without him. They need to learn to not be like their dad and enjoy the blood money kids.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay? His kids are better off without him. How do you think they'll raise their dad?

[Joe Getty]

How do you say that out loud even about a bad person?

[Jack Armstrong]

Enjoy the blood money kids. Yes. Okay, that was. And I'm debating whether to give these women's names. They refused to give their Last names. But their names were clearly visible on their press credentials and many people have printed them. You know, that was April Rios. And this is Elena Weisbrot. And Ms. Rios, once again, I'm standing on business.

[Activist Speaker 1]

Ryan Thompson. I don't give a.

[Jack Armstrong]

Millions of Americans liked it F. I'm standing on business. F. Brian Thompson. I don't give a F. That he died. Then the other one jumps in. I like that.

[Joe Getty]

Murder. Cold blooded murder. You liked? Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Over some vague dissatisfaction with the corporation.

[Joe Getty]

If you got two brain cells to rub together, you. You should be able to realize that the whole thing falls apart very quickly if we stop murdering everybody that we kind of don't like for some reason.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here is the lovely Lena Weisbrot again.

[Activist Speaker 1]

Millions of Americans suffer every single day. We had a literal infant named Stella who, because of how negligent her health insurance was, she died. An infant died. So if you guys are okay with someone like Ryan Thompson being around and that being a part of our soc, that says more about you as a person because you look absolutely monstrous defending someone like that. Participates in social murder. That's what mass social murder.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ah, there's a lot there.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that last phrase, which I don't know that I'd ever heard.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, we talked about it last week.

[Joe Getty]

We did.

[Jack Armstrong]

The concept of social murder, that's the

[Joe Getty]

advantage of being me. I can hide my own Easter eggs. Right. This happens with my kids all the time, I think. Well, that's interesting. I said, dad, we talked about that the other day.

[Jack Armstrong]

Those policies that lead to bad outcomes, they call social murder.

[Joe Getty]

Mass social murder.

[Jack Armstrong]

Obviously, if somebody's a murderer, you can kill them to prevent them from murdering again. It is very, very Maoist. Not sort of concept. Yeah, yeah. I also liked how at the beginning she was talking about millions of Americans suffer from. It's kind of inaudible, their insurance. A literal infant died. That's cute. Okay, I couldn't pass that up. And then these brain dead Maoist mannequins go with the social murder argument, which again is out of like every radical leftist movement in the last century or so. Gosh, it's 20, 26 century and a quarter century and a half where you justify murder by saying, well, their policies kill people, therefore we are justified. And young people have known moral sense. They fall for that.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And keeping in mind you can't dismiss these idiots because if they cheer on some other idiot who shoots you, you're just as dead.

[Jack Armstrong]

Correct as if some genius. You gave them the excuse. Next clip.

[Show Producer/Announcer]

He's responsible for More deaths than Osama bin Laden. And I remember Americans celebrating when Osama bin Laden was killed. It's not like we don't understand heroic violence or like when violence is good, there's a. That's like, as American as America.

[Joe Getty]

God, who originally put that thought in her head. So he, as the guy running United Healthcare, is responsible for more deaths than Osama bin Laden. And we all cheered when Osama bin Laden died.

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[Jack Armstrong]

I want you to tuck that away. Fact that she referenced Osama bin Laden. And hang on for a minute. And then this is Ashley Rojas, who is the third of the trio, who we have not mentioned specifically.

[Show Producer/Announcer]

I mean, why do we protect the Second Amendment so much?

[Podcast Announcer]

Is it to allow people to shoot

[Show Producer/Announcer]

up schools or is it for us to protect our democracy? I think it's to protect our democracy. It's not saying, you know, we should all take up arms, but when your democracy is eroded and there's no other option, like, what are we meant to do?

[Jack Armstrong]

All right, so why do we protect the Second Amendment? So we can shoot up schools? No, to protect our democracy. Like shooting down young Brian Thompson in cold blood on the street. So that's interesting. Appealing to right wing America or conservative America? Second Amendment defenders. That's an interesting route to go for a young woman like that. File that one away too, for a minute.

[Joe Getty]

I'll never understand how these people, right or left. It's the same with the censorship argument. How they don't get. Look, it all comes down to who decides. See, that's the problem. See, if we're gonna just start murdering people we think are really bad for society, guess what? The people on the other crowd might think you're really bad for society. You understand how this works?

[Jack Armstrong]

And it falls apart really fast, Jack. Assuming that these are young fools, which. Which there are many young fools.

[Joe Getty]

Maybe I'm the old fool.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, that was good. One more clip.

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You know, other countries have had revolutions for far less. We're pretty much the most cut and submissive population in all of. And I'm tired of it. It's time for everyone to grow some balls and stuff. Stand on business.

[Joe Getty]

So I didn't understand everything.

[Jack Armstrong]

Giggle. Other countries have had revolutions for far less. We're the most cucked country on earth. Cuckolded, you know, blah, blah, blah. Humiliated. It's time to grow some effing balls. And then the other girls giggle. And then we're standing on business. Okay, quick word from our friends at Ruff Green.

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Okay, so, you know, like a good mystery, lays out clues and bread crumbs and that sort of thing and then brings it together at the end. I got a few more breadcrumbs for you. Let's see who's writing this article. I always give credit. I am an honorable man. Let's see, it's a. Kirsten. Kirsten. Kirsten Fleming in the New York Post. Jack, as usual. Kirsten, Kristen. Kirsten.

[Joe Getty]

We get to call you whatever you want. You went for that name, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. It's not our fault that your names are interchangeable. Anyway, so she's writing a piece about how a friend in media wanted to know how to get a New York City press pass, and she sent him the form to fill out, but told him it was really a long shot unless you're an established reporter with a legitimate body of work because they're very selective. And she says, how foolish of me. Apparently all you need is a substack and a last and a lust for political violence. Perhaps it helps if you give yourself a cutesy name like the Manginistas.

[Joe Getty]

So that one almost made Me? Take a knee. The Manginistas.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, that's what they call themselves. Yeah. So his murder cheer squad showed up to support him. And these extremists have been granted full legitimacy by Mayor Zoran Mandani's executive director of press credentials, Samir Nasser. Although she's mostly behind the scenes, the official city biography for Nasser describes her as a native New Yorker and first generation Arab American who's worked for CBS News, Fox Business, in Al Jazeera America, that delightful offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood and the country of Qatar. So the trio who looked like fan girls, finally getting backstage passes to meet their favorite K pop group, were obviously not there to report on the hearing. They were there to endorse and justify the cold blooded murder of Brian Thompson.

[Joe Getty]

So Mandami's got woman vote for Summer. Summer got passes to these people so they could go out and make these statements to the media. That was the whole point.

[Jack Armstrong]

Exactly. Mamdani's Islamist. And I use that term to. Just to save time and not re. Explain the Red Green alliance yet again. But Momdani's Islamianist staff, including himself, sees somebody who's all for tearing down the system of the free market or capitalism, if you prefer that term, justifying political murder on the sidewalk because of capitalism. That is his brand. That says, that's not a bug, it's a feature. They credential these women because they agree with them. They're not young fools. They're activists hired by, sponsored by, in a very real way, Mum Donnie's behind the scenes Islamist. You know, overthrow the Western civilization, aid. That's who they were. That's who they are.

[Joe Getty]

I wish more people would pick up on that. The mayor of the most important city

[Jack Armstrong]

in the world

[Joe Getty]

got these people into that courtroom so that they come out and make those statements about the United States and justifying murdering executives because they're committing social murder and all kinds of other weird revolutionary stuff.

[Jack Armstrong]

And these people, I mean, one of them describes herself as a child model, actress and influencer, currently female rage encourager, abolitionist and social fascism resistor. Weaponizing my master's degree. That's her social media profile. And Kirsten, Kirsten Kristen, who's writing this article, she doesn't connect those dots. At the end, she's still saying these young fools, you know, they're a joke. Not every clown with an X account should be near officials, blah, blah, blah. No, you don't get it. This is what they want. They're there to advocate what they want, which is tearing down Western civilization.

[Joe Getty]

How do you think people wake up?

[Jack Armstrong]

This is real. I've studied political movements since I was a child. These people are serious and people end up dead.

[Joe Getty]

Even with all that stuff. You'd think advocating the murder of executives on the street would like be roundly heckled or something, but it's not. Didn't even really make the news.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's how far they've gotten.

[Joe Getty]

We got a lot more on the way. Stay here.

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[Jack Armstrong]

A logo shot.

[Joe Getty]

28 footer ties it at 108. You should not have that level of confidence as a 22 year old in the NBA. Two in the NBA Finals in overtime. Down by three with seconds left to

[Jack Armstrong]

stop and shoot from there.

[Joe Getty]

No not your coach is going to fire you. You will never be allowed to play again. Taking a shot from there. I mean that's the. You gotta have testicles of steel.

[Jack Armstrong]

Who's gonna shoot this shot? Shot Click. As you run down the court.

[Joe Getty]

He stops like 10ft behind the three point line and shoots it and makes it and he's like 11ft tall. You shouldn't even be able to shoot three pointers at all. And I like this write up from the Athletics.

[Jack Armstrong]

I see your point completely but at age 22 is the last was the last time had that much confidence.

[Joe Getty]

I like what they wrote in the Athletic for the New York Times. Victor Wembiana. He's the French kid who's 22 years old. Watch the MB MVP trophy be given to a member of the other team SGA for the the Thunder then goes out there and shows he's the greatest player in the world. Which is a a pretty cool thing to do.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh yeah, he's.

[Joe Getty]

He's something though. I've said, I've said this to many NBA fans who like have missed him somehow because he plays for San Antonio. He's unbelievable. He's so tall sometimes he dunks over like five people from he just because his arms are so long. It's like Stretch Armstrong's like without like jumping.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's wild.

[Joe Getty]

Anyhow, if you like the NBA, catch that. Here's proof that I'm nuts and I Realize I read the text line, you got all kinds of proof. But this particular issue, it fits in with why it's. My bedroom is so cluttered that it's so hard for me to get rid of stuff. I got some weird I can't throw things away thing, including this. I may have crossed the line today. I come in every morning and I take yesterday's coffee with cream in it that's been sitting here since yesterday and I go heat it up and drink it. No, I do it every day because I. I don't want to waste it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, wow.

[Joe Getty]

Which is obviously stupid on a number of levels. We're talking about pennies of value given the fact that the coffee comes from the company and I don't pay for it anyway. It's my cream, so I guess it's my cream. But we're talking about pennies of value. And then the weird part that because I drink yesterday's coffee today, I don't drink all the coffee from today. So I have leftover for tomorrow.

[Jack Armstrong]

So all you had to do is skip one day.

[Joe Getty]

Skip one day and I could drink fresh coffee all the time.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's an excellent point.

[Joe Getty]

And it tastes horrible because the cre Coffee on its own would be okay. It's still kind of weird. But the cream part gets really nasty flavored. Sitting here in room temperature for 24 hours, 20 hours before I come back in the next day.

[Jack Armstrong]

It tastes curdling. No kidding.

[Joe Getty]

I don't think it gives me colds, but I'm dead.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm bad at math. But did you live through the Depression? Twice.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know. It's. It's. I should see somebody about this. That is a weird thing to do. Anyway, something more uplifting. Eric Church, country star, gave one of the great. It's being called one of the great graduation speeches of all time at the University of North Carolina. You'll understand why when we play some of it next segment. I hope you can stay here.

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[Joe Getty]

President Xi and Putin are meeting today. Be interesting to watch that as they had the quote of the year a couple of years ago, maybe the quote of the decade, maybe the quote of the century. We'll revisit that a little bit later.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's being said that this back to back visit of world leaders really establishes Chairman Xi is the great superpower head that he's longed to be.

[Joe Getty]

He already was, wasn't he?

[Jack Armstrong]

Who cares? He's a fat commie.

[Joe Getty]

He's a fat gummy. And we've talked many times about how over there they, they dismissively call him Winnie the Pooh because he looks like Winnie the Pooh and that you can get thrown in prison or drug out of your house or whatever if you post any memes of him looking like Winnie the Pooh. I had never quite understood that. I saw an angle of him the other day. He does the low belly and then the way he stands, he stands like with his hands behind his back exactly like Winnie the Pooh. I would.

[Jack Armstrong]

And often the blankish look of Pooh Bear as well.

[Joe Getty]

I think Trump should have, when Trump met him middle of last week, he should have said, happy Wednesday, Pooh.

[Jack Armstrong]

That might have been seen as provocative.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, this was not provocative. Unfortunately. Many, many, many of your graduation speeches by well known stars in the modern era are political diatribes, almost always from the left. And it's all about they get up there and they talk to a bunch of graduates about how the current Republicans are Hitler or Nazis or what, whatever it is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Famously, the other day a University of Michigan professor got up and he praised the pro Palestinian activists who are in the audience.

[Joe Getty]

Oh yeah, there's plenty of that. But going way back, it's, you know, the Bush or whoever it is, you got to get up there and talk about it. It's your job to go out there and fight for what is good against these evil Republicans. Okay, great. Eric Church is a country music star and he went a completely different direction the other day in his commencement speech at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, Tar Hills. And I have not heard the whole thing, I'll admit, because I was alerted yesterday by a listener that what we had on our podcast is just the summary. He goes through each one of those things point by point in his long speech and it's really, really, really Excellent. And I look forward to hearing it. It's too long for our format.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, right. But you'll get the idea of what we missed, as he summarizes.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, this. This is cbs. Featured it last night. CBS country music star with this last night saying is one of the best graduation speeches of all time. I agree.

[Eric Church (Graduation Speech)]

You are made uniquely, wonderfully, distinctly. There's a sound only you can make. A voice that has never existed before you and will never exist again. A contribution only you can bring. A way of seeing that belongs to only you. The world does not need another. Another cover song. It needs an original, original. Six strings. Six strings of life and willingness to keep them in tune. Six principles, six pillars. When all six are in tune with each other, the cord your life makes is full and resonant and true. All six will drift. Not one or two.

[Joe Getty]

Two.

[Eric Church (Graduation Speech)]

All six. In their own time, in their own season. Your faith will go quiet when you need it loud. Your family will get complicated in a way only the people who love you most can complicate things. You will go through hard seasons with your spouse. Your ambition will hollow out and your resilience will wear thin. Your community will start to feel like an obligation. And your world will try to sand down the edges of exactly who you are.

[Joe Getty]

Are.

[Eric Church (Graduation Speech)]

This is not failure. This is not weakness. It's the inevitable universal experience of living in an imperfect world that doesn't stop to let us tune up. And the difference between a life that sounds like music and a life that sounds like noise is whether you stop and listen, whether you're honest enough to hear which string has drifted out of tune and humble enough to make the adjustments instead of just turning up the volume and hoping nobody notices. Because you will notice. The part of you that knows what the chord should sound like will always notice. It will not let you go. Life won't be right until it is tuned. Trust what your heart hears and is telling you about your song. So graduates. Now, I encourage you to take your six strings, make it something worth hearing, and play your song as I leave you with mine.

[Joe Getty]

And then he plays a song. Oh, that is so I gotta hear the whole thing where he goes through point by point in. In greater depth. I understand. It's really, really great. But that idea of, you know, one of the areas of your life is out of tune and you know it is, you can just, like, go loud and hope nobody notices or get it back in tune.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right?

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or, you know, drink it away or what have you so you can ignore it or, you know, if you're talking actual music, hope your audience drinks enough that they don't notice it. But yeah. Oh my. That as metaphors go, I mean that is. What's the top number? 10.

[Joe Getty]

That's a 10. Yeah. That is really good stuff right there. Why aren't there more graduation speeches that talk about, you know, living life, being a happy, successful, productive human as opposed to, you know, bashing whatever political party. Oh, so annoying.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, I would suggest that the person, I mean like Robert Reich did that at UC Berkeley the other day, made it very like current events, political right. Riling you up against the evildoers on the right wing, blah, blah, blah. That's an incredible act of selfishness to make that your speech. That's just trying to recruit people to your political side or party or to contribute to their donation to your whatever. Just trying to rally people to your side as opposed to what I think most of us assume a commencement speaker, graduation speaker is there to do. And that's give a gift to the kids to give them something to enrich them somehow as they leave the cocoon and go out into the real world. Robert Reich didn't offer a gift. He made an ask F you, Eric Church. Well done. I tip my non existent cowboy hat to you, sir.

[Eric Church (Graduation Speech)]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

On the topic of all those young people and going out into their lives, I have a thought on that. I was at a restaurant the other night and I thought about this looking around at all the college kids. But first we want to tell you about Trust and will, which is a good idea no matter what the age. Especially if you're a. You're leaning toward the older edge. If you haven't come up with a trust and will yet. If you, if you still got kids at home and you die, what happens to your kids? The state decides to do what to do with them or do you have it nailed down? What family member is going to take care of them and how the money gets split up and all that sort of stuff. That's why you need to Trust and Will.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Do not subject your your kids to that or your loved ones to probate. Good God. Why don't you just punch them in the face instead if you hate them that much? So Trust and Will offers affordable attorney designed estate plan online that you can create in as little as 30 minutes. If you need an attorney to clarify something, they have them. It's state specific. It's super bank level encryption, secure sharing features so your most important documents and details stay protected.

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The first step, go to trustandwill.com Armstrong you get 20% off. That's trustandwill.com Armstrong for 20% off one more time. Trustandwill.com Armstrong do this. You'll be so, so happy you did trust me.

[Joe Getty]

Remember when I mentioned that a therapist told me because I, I struggle with stacks of paperwork, always have, have it hanging over my head all the time rather than ever getting it done. And this therapist told me just do one every day. One. I'll never get it done. Doing one a day. Of course I'm doing none a day. So you know, one a day would be. Anywho, whenever I do that, it works so great. First of all, you shoot for one, you end up doing three or four

[Jack Armstrong]

because you're in the groove.

[Joe Getty]

Sure, because you're in the group. But just if you just get one a day at the end of the week, if you've done seven, which is a lot more than zero, I don't know why I can't just stick with that. Anywho, back to young people and the selfishness of that. Standing up there and giving a commencement speech about today's news basically and saying which side you should be on. I was in a.

[Jack Armstrong]

So lazy.

[Joe Getty]

I live in a college town, so we got a lot of college eateries and we were at this place, the other kind of a cheap Chinese place the other day, a local place, place with my kids. They, they, they really like it. And I was looking around the place and I said I am at least, I might be 40 years older than every single person in here. I, I said to my kids, which is pretty funny in a, in a packed restaurant. But it's just, look at all these people that the college age kids and just thinking, man, man you got such a ride ahead of you. Good and bad, up and down, all the different stuff. And I just was pondering that at that moment and where I was and you know, would I want to go back and do it again? I don't know if I got the energy. But you know, they got the. You have the energy. I guess if you're that age.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's funny. That's the exact conversation I had with a friend the other day. It's like, well, no, you couldn't go back and do it now because you don't have the energy of youth.

[Joe Getty]

You're a spent force.

[Jack Armstrong]

My youngster is going through that right now. She's interning with a Big law firm. And she says, my God, it's exhausting. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, it is at the beginning. That's how you get where you want to go.

[Joe Getty]

Part of it is the energy of youth. Part of it is you don't. I mean, you'd have to go back to that age and have your mind erased. Because if you've lived it all, you couldn't handle living it again, I don't think. But. But just fitting that in with the graduation speeches. Yeah, don't hit all those young people headed out of the world with what news story is popular today and who's the evil guy in it? That's not. That's not what you need to go out into the world. You need, like, overall perspective about the big things, like Eric Church's speech.

[Jack Armstrong]

I agree 100%.

[Joe Getty]

Wow, what a disservice that is. To focus on the who's going to be president for the next two years?

[Jack Armstrong]

The midterms.

[Joe Getty]

The midterms. As you head out into life to live the next 50, 60 years of your life, it is like sending off

[Jack Armstrong]

your kid to the first day of kindergarten with. Just remember, your next door neighbor, Mrs. Jones, is a. We don't like her and her kind. Wait a minute.

[Joe Getty]

What.

[Jack Armstrong]

What does this have to do with the incredible journey I'm about to take? Nothing, you selfish, sick bastards.

[Joe Getty]

Be like saying to your. Your. Your. Your high school kid, and remember, the most important thing today is that Tommy Thomas Matucky.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my God. Right? You stand up as the father of the bride and you say, the one piece of advice I'd like to give you is don't book a reception at this place. My fork was dirty. What kind of service is that? I mean, that's just terrible. Oh, my God. You oughta. They're insane in the brown.

[Joe Getty]

Insane.

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Marco. Speaking of the next election, who in recent polling is way ahead of a certain but bearded vice president President. Polls of Republicans.

[Joe Getty]

We got more on the way. Stay here.

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The world knows the story of Punch the monkey now. Well, tonight we've learned that two Americans have been arrested at the zoo where Punch lives in Japan. Police say a man dressed in a costume climbed into the exhibit while another man recorded the stunt. The zoo saying Punch and the other animals are okay. The New York Times reported tonight the zoo is now adding patrols, netting and restricting the viewing around Punch's enclosure.

[Joe Getty]

Who's punched the monkey again? Is that a celebrity monkey?

[Jack Armstrong]

That's the monkey that was rejected by its mother and was clutching the stuffed

[Joe Getty]

animal that was in China. I don't know how I missed that or forgotten it. Punch the monkey is not a euphemism. That's the. Punch, the name of a monkey.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes.

[Joe Getty]

And these idiots. So even in China, they have the climb into the monkey pit in a costume while somebody else films it to post it on social media thing. It's kind of interesting to me.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I was only half paying attention. I hadn't heard it was in China.

[Joe Getty]

Hope they didn't get the Ebola virus from Punch the monkey. So there was a report. Do I have this? Understand this right? A US Doctor got the Ebola virus has landed in Los Angeles and is spreading it around. Is that what I heard?

[Jack Armstrong]

Pardon me.

[Joe Getty]

I just saw lots of headlines of should you be worried about the Ebola virus as they try to get you to click on it. And no, you should not be worried about the Ebola virus. And yes, a US Doctor did get it, but they are over there in the Congo and I don't think any symptoms yet for this particular person.

[Jack Armstrong]

And tell you what, if you're a medical pro and you go there to treat the poor folks with Ebola, that's an act of real kindness and generosity. Right.

[Joe Getty]

And there's no getting a vaccine for that. Right. It's not like Covid never heard of get a shot and then go work with people. No, there's no vaccine for Covid. That's one of the. I mean, for Ebola. That's one of the reasons it's so terrifying.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, you can still get Covid if you got the vaccine. As we all learned.

[Joe Getty]

As we all learned.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes.

[Joe Getty]

Hey, Hanson, I'm looking up at the TV. They got some sort of hearing going on in D.C. they always do. Senator Kennedy of Louisiana, who I'm sure had some sort of funny homespun joke that he threw in to this called Medicaid, a Tier 1 slush fund that has my attention. I'm kind of wondering what they're talking about there.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm telling you, social programs, entitlements in general, are a slush fund for stealing that occasionally hand out aid to people who need it, in my opinion. See, like every program in California, Minnesota, all the blue states there are, there are scams connected to Medicaid folks that are tens of billions of dollars every year, probably hundreds of billions if you look at federal numbers. I mean, just mind boggling amounts that we. I've, you know, I've got the stuff in front of me. It would take a minute to explain. Your eyes would glaze over and you would end up angry. But our social programs are an enormous spigot of, you know, slush fund money graft and, and everybody in D.C. knows it. That's, that's the point. You can't be cynical enough about big government. Oh boy.

[Joe Getty]

We're gonna talk to Josh Rogan to kick off hour three about China and Taiwan and the stakes with Taiwan. If China did take it, what would that mean for the world, all that sort of stuff. And he's really good. If you'd never heard Josh before. Got a funny Babylon bee for you before I hit you with a horrifying headline. Babylon be with a biblical joke today. Study finds 100% of men would eat any fruit given to them by a naked woman. Probably true. Listen to this. At least this didn't happen to you today. A 56, yet a 56 year old. This happened in Manhattan. Midtown Manhattan, New York. You do not expect this to happen. Happen. A 56 year old woman plunged to her death after falling into an open manhole.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh no.

[Joe Getty]

Wasn't paying attention, just walked along and.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh no.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. God dang. I don't know. Is there a lesson there? Why pay attention?

[Jack Armstrong]

Look where you're walking. I mean, it's a good lesson. I don't know. That the punishment fit the crime. Maybe you stumble over a crack in a sidewalk.

[Joe Getty]

I'll bet there's video. Was she staring at her phone? And if there is. Oh, then maybe we oughta all. It'll take a, you know, pause the staring at her phone.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, it's funny.

[Joe Getty]

I know I'm a weirdo.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know that. Everybody knows that. I love looking Around. If I'm in an urban environment, I love checking out what's around me. The people, the buildings, the traffic, just everything. If I'm in nature, I'm looking at the trees, I'm looking for birds, I'm looking at the ground. Oh, that's interesting.

[Podcast Announcer]

I don't.

[Joe Getty]

I don't get that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, again, I'm an outlier.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know. Look around at the birds. They're not very funny.

[Jack Armstrong]

They're. They're.

[Joe Getty]

These tick tock videos are hilarious. Those birds aren't funny at all. They haven't done one funny thing. I've been looking at them the entire walk.

[Jack Armstrong]

I granted, I grant that. Yeah, I've been a fool. I can't believe I've missed it all.

[Joe Getty]

I go back and forth on this because I like how much information I can take in. In, like, on walks and stuff like that, listening to podcasts. But then there's also the. You know, like, you're talking about letting your brain rest looking at the birds in the trees. But I'm not learning anything by looking at the birds in the trees.

[Jack Armstrong]

But you're. God dang it. Oh, I just gotta slap this into your head. Your brain needs that time.

[Joe Getty]

Maybe yours does, mine doesn't.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right, I give up. You know what? Good luck. Look out for manholes. There, their phony MC face.

[Joe Getty]

See, Elon's really big on the. We should all be listening to audiobooks at like 1 and a half to 2 times speed so we can get through them twice as fast.

[Jack Armstrong]

And 1 in 8 billion. Freak. You shouldn't take any advice from him whatsoever.

[Joe Getty]

How about on rocketry? If you wanted to build a rocket, you wouldn't take his advice, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

I. I would listen to him.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I know, but I do. I actually do go back and forth on that. I love the fact that I can get through so many books. But then there's the.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, you don't absorb it, you don'. File it in your brain. Make those connections that lead you to actual learning. Unless you have quiet time. Maybe that's why to every neuroscientist on earth.

[Joe Getty]

Maybe it's why I forget everything.

[Jack Armstrong]

Can't help. Yeah, well, you squeezed out the time for me to lay out the most sobering and ugly subject on the face of the earth. Maybe next hour.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, boy, there's something to look forward to.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sobering and ugly.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, geez. Josh Rogan on why it would be a big deal if China took Taiwan. How hard it would be for them to do. Will we defend it. All that sort of stuff in hour three. If you miss it, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand Armstrong and

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