A Very Aggressive Scent

Summary

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Episode: A Very Aggressive Scent
Date: May 5, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

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Episode Overview

This episode weaves together major global affairs—current Middle East tensions, the ongoing Ukraine-Russia war, and the OpenAI lawsuit drama—with Armstrong & Getty's trademark banter and segues into lighter, colorful segments about mosquitoes and memorable moments from their lives. The hosts shift deftly between serious geopolitics, economic worries, practical advice, and gross-out stories, producing an episode that’s both topical and oddly entertaining.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Tensions in the Middle East: Iran, UAE, and the Strait of Hormuz

• Blockade Update & U.S. Involvement ([03:06])

  • The hosts discuss the U.S. blockade against Iran, emphasizing U.S. "control" of the Strait of Hormuz is not total, as traffic has massively diminished.
  • Joe: “If we controlled the strait, like actually fully controlled it, there’d be 150 ships going through every day… Right now, two in the last 48 hours that I’m aware of.” ([03:26])
  • Jack: Humorously compares “controlling” the strait to blocking a freeway with cement—it’s not functioning, but nothing gets through. ([04:13])

• Escalation with UAE & Iran ([05:07])

  • Iran attacks UAE’s main oil port, significantly impacting oil revenues.
  • UAE commentators draw parallels between this attack and October 7th (Hamas-Israel), suggesting severe retaliation.

• Regional Alliances & Predictions ([06:11], [06:40])

  • Dramatic quotes from Iranian strategists threaten to “send the Emiratis back to their camel riding days.”
  • Jack speculates about a major imminent allied attack involving Israel, UAE, and possibly Saudi Arabia.
  • Joe: “Iran is not gonna send those gazillionaire princes in the Arab Emirates back to the camel riding days. That ain’t gonna happen.” ([06:59])

2. Ukraine-Russia War: Putin’s Strategic Blunders

• Zelensky’s Taunt & Victory Day Parade ([07:39], [14:27])

  • Ukraine has managed significant drone strikes deep into Russia, even into Siberia.
  • Putin has to “cancel” military displays at the May 9 Victory Day for the first time in 18 years due to paranoia about drone attacks.
  • Joe: “So not going to have any of their military stuff out there in the parade. Hoping that’ll keep Zelinsky from attacking it. Wow, that’s a good position to be in.” ([15:32])

• Walter Russell Mead’s Take—Has Putin Broken Russia? ([15:32]–[18:53])

  • Jack summarizes an essay arguing Putin’s Ukraine gamble has severely diminished Russian power, both militarily and diplomatically—across Europe, Africa, and former Soviet republics.
  • Russia now sees labor and demographic crises: mass casualties of fighting-aged men and brain-drain due to war avoidance.

• Paranoia & Security ([18:53]–[20:13])

  • Detailed about Putin increasingly running Russia from bunkers, rarely using residences near Moscow, and pre-recorded state media.
  • Ukrainian drones have shown Russia’s air defenses to be porous, heightening the sense of insecurity at the top.
  • Joe: “Ukrainian drones… have penetrated a lot of Moscow’s defenses that Moscow felt were impenetrable…” ([19:58])

3. U.S. Economic Woes and Presidential Approval

• Polling & Public Dissatisfaction ([09:13])
  • Dissection of recent polls reveals negative views on cost of living, inflation, economy, U.S. border policy—basically, “upside down in every single category.”
  • Jack: “When gas is this high, you suck at everything is just the way you feel.” ([10:35])
  • Joe: “And when inflation is up, nothing else matters.” ([10:44])

4. The OpenAI / Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman/Brockman Lawsuit

• Origins & Big Money at Stake ([40:16])

  • Elon Musk asserts OpenAI was founded as a nonprofit, but Altman and Brockman steered it toward for-profit and personal gain.
  • Brockman’s stake in OpenAI is now worth $30 billion ([41:08]), and he holds interests in companies doing business with OpenAI.

• Diary Evidence & Drama ([42:06], [44:51])

  • Lawyers highlight Brockman’s diary entry: “financially, what’s it going to take to make me a billionaire?”
  • Musk threatened via message: “By the end of this week, you and Sam will be the most hated men in America, if you insist.” ([43:37])
  • Damning diary entry: Brockman called it “morally bankrupt” to convert OpenAI into a for-profit without Musk.

5. Practical and Lighthearted Life Talk: Mosquitoes, Health, & Smell

“Five Things Mosquito Experts Do to Avoid Getting Bitten” ([26:38]–[32:58])

• Eliminate standing water
• Use BTI larvicide where water can’t be eliminated ([28:28])
• Wear long clothes outdoors
• Apply proven repellents (DEET, Picaridin, oil of lemon eucalyptus)
• Use fans and spatial repellents (like Thermacell-type devices)
• Discussion about people’s varying reactions to bites, childhood memories of mosquito fogging trucks, and repellent preferences.
  • Jack: “Give me the most horrendous output of America’s factory… I want stuff you can only get in North Korea.” ([30:16])
  • Joe: “A lot of so-called repellents… it blinds [mosquitoes], which I found really interesting.” ([30:50])

Gross-Out Segment: “An Aggressive Scent” & Social Smells

• Joe tells a memorable, vividly gross story relayed by a medical professional about “boob mold”—mold growing under a woman’s breasts due to poor hygiene and obesity. ([33:30])
  • Jack: “Sub Booble mold. I’ll bet the scent, the aroma was… an aggressive scent.” ([34:43], [47:16])
• The pair reflect on sensory adaptation: you stop noticing even strong, unpleasant smells after a while ([36:21]).
• Reference to “the smelliest man in New York City”—a notorious vagrant in the East Village, and the social impacts of severe neglect.

6. Final Thoughts and Societal Critique

• Joe: “I think we’re going back to full-on war, and it’s going to be us, Israel and the UAE at least pounding the crap out of Iran. I’ll be shocked if that doesn’t happen this week.” ([46:01])
• Jack: On the tragedy of modern media consumption and missed priorities:
  “When you’re writing about our age and what went terribly, terribly wrong, the key phrase is going to be you couldn’t get anyone to pay attention to what was important.” ([46:11])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On U.S. "Control" of the Strait of Hormuz:

  "If we controlled the strait, like actually fully controlled it, there’d be 150 ships going through every day … two in the last 48 hours."
  — Joe Getty ([03:26])

• On the UAE–Iran escalation:

  “That’s a promise—not only a great comparison, but also a nod of alliance with Israel. That is very significant.”
  — Jack Armstrong ([05:39])

• On economic dissatisfaction:

  “When gas is this high, you suck at everything is just the way you feel.”
  — Jack Armstrong ([10:35])

• On Putin’s isolation:

  “Russia’s president is increasingly running his war from underground … Putin and his family have reportedly stopped using some residences near Moscow, with the President spending weeks at a time in bunkers.”
  — Joe Getty ([18:53])

• On OpenAI’s transformation:

  “By the end of this week, you and Sam will be the most hated men in America, if you insist. So it will be.”
  — Elon Musk (quoted by Joe Getty) ([43:37])

  “That’d be pretty morally bankrupt. And he’s really not an idiot. … Hard for him to look at himself in the mirror.”
  — Brockman’s diary, quoted by Joe ([44:51])

• On mosquito repellent preferences:

  “Give me the most horrendous output of America’s factory… I want stuff you can only get in North Korea.”
  — Jack Armstrong ([30:16])

• On “boob mold” and social neglect:

  “Sub Booble mold. I’ll bet the scent, the aroma was… an aggressive scent.”
  — Jack Armstrong ([34:43], [47:16])

• On American priorities:

  “You couldn’t get anyone to pay attention to what was important.”
  — Jack Armstrong ([46:11])

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Middle East/Iran, UAE Blockade: [03:06] – [07:10]
• Ukraine/Russia War & Putin Analysis: [07:30] – [21:14]; [14:27] – [20:13]
• U.S. Economy, Polls: [09:13] – [11:14]
• Mosquito Expert Advice: [26:38] – [32:58]
• “Boob mold”/Aggressive Scent Segment: [33:30] – [36:47]; [34:43], [47:16]
• OpenAI/Musk vs. Altman Lawsuit: [40:16] – [45:36]
• Final Thoughts: [46:01] – [47:06]

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Closing Notes

This episode is archetypal Armstrong & Getty: timely news, skeptical analysis, irreverent humor, and the ability to zoom from headlines to hilarious and cringe-inducing human realities. The title, “A Very Aggressive Scent,” finds its pungent justification in both their exploration of world affairs and in their most unforgettable anecdotes.

Transcript

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

The Iranians do not have control of the Strait. We have absolute control of the Strait. We have blockaded the ships going into or out of Iranian ports. Their economy is in free fall. And everyone says they have a high tolerance for pain. Well, their soldiers will not have a

[Jack Armstrong]

high tolerance for not getting paid.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I think that's a stretch. I stood up for the blockade of the blockade earlier in the show because I think that is a very clever move and I think it's going to work. They blockaded the Straight, so we blockaded them. They can't get anything out either because when they blockaded the Straight, they were still letting their oil get out. They were making more revenue after the war started than before the war started. That was no good. Well, they ain't making no revenue now at all. But I think for Scott Besant, the Treasury secretary, to say we control the Straight is a bit of a stretch. If we controlled the strait, like actually fully controlled it, there'd be 150 ships going through every day like there were previously. Right now, two in the last 48 hours that I'm aware of.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I could control Interstate 80 by dumping 50 tons of cement in the middle of it. But then it's not a highway. So. Yeah, and the whole soldiers don't appreciate getting paid. That would take a while to really work its way into something of significance because they got a gun at their back.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Here's Trey Inkst of Fox with a little more on where we are.

[Jack Armstrong]

Tension continues to rise across the Middle east as Iran fires on vessels in the Persian Gulf. This comes as the United States is escorting ships that are currently trapped in the Gulf through the Strait of Hormuz as part of Project Freedom. Overnight, CENTCOM Commander Admiral Brad Cooper described the extensive US firepower protecting the operation that does include 15,000 US service members. I spoke yesterday with President Trump who told me if Iran attacks US Vessels, they'll be blown off the face of the earth.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, right after we got off the air yesterday. So the UAE Got attacked hard by Iran, their number one port for getting oil out and them making money. Iran bloated up and the UAE seems to have reached their end of patience on that. And one of UAE's most prominent voices drew a parallel to October 7th. The leading commentator, commentator for the UAE said Iran will regret regret May 4th, just as Hamas did after October 7th.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a promise not only a great comparison, but also a nod of alliance with Israel. That is very significant.

[Joe Getty]

Good point. So you cross the line, you're going to pay a heavy price.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And then making the comparison to Israel. That's interesting. An Iranian strategist threatened the UAE by saying, we will send the Emiratis back to their camel riding days.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's an unfortunate stereotype there. Proof of that.

[Joe Getty]

So their version of bombing back to the Stone Ages. We're gonna send you back to your camel riding days. My, my guess would be is that we, Israel, the uae, are all just coordinating and there's going to be a giant attack this week. That'd be my guess.

[Jack Armstrong]

I wonder if we're trying to nudge MBS over some sort of line and telling them, look, this is the new coalition. This is the new reality. You got to be in a hundred percent because it's time. It's time to bring in the 2000 pound bomb of war bass and finish this.

[Joe Getty]

I'll tell you what ain't gonna happen. Iran is not gonna send those gazillionaire princes in the Arab Emirates back to the camel riding days. That ain't gonna happen.

[Jack Armstrong]

Seems unlikely. Yes. Yes. Another thing that's unlikely to happen is Iran saying, you know what, we should sit down at the bargaining table in good faith and come to an agreement that opens the Gulf and restores peace to the region. Please. What a joke.

[Joe Getty]

I hate the Iranians, but that's a good one.

[Jack Armstrong]

Coming up is Vladimir Putin the man who broke Russia? Nobody's talking much about the situation in Russia right now, but things are dark.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, what was I watching that? Had a good report on that war today. Ukraine has been very successful in recent weeks, reaching deep into Russia, all the way to Siberia with some of their drone attacks. And it looked like Russia was not going to have their normal early May patriotic celebration, May 5. Why is May 5 a big day for Russia? I don't even remember why, but they're supposed to have a big get together that they were not going to have. And Zelinsky very cleverly said yesterday, I heard you canceled there. I'll tell you what, we'll hold off on the drone attack so you can go and have your head, have your parade. Which was a cool thing to say, I thought. Wow. Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

That was very tweaking the nose. Ish. Yes. All right, so more on Russia after a break. Also this hour, and this is a completely different flavor. Five things mosquito experts do every summer to avoid getting bitten.

[Joe Getty]

You have to be a mosquito expert. What's a mosquito expert?

[Jack Armstrong]

No, you don't know. Here's the point. The people who know the most about mosquitoes, this is what they do so they don't get chewed on. Well, it's not chewed on, per se. It's punctured, penetrated by the evil beasts. So we'll have that for you this hour as well.

[Joe Getty]

I hate seeing a mosquito on me. Oh, that's. That's deep in our brain. Because it's the most deadly animal on the planet.

[Jack Armstrong]

Had to remove a tick from my sweetheart.

[Joe Getty]

You didn't have to.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's not like I should.

[Joe Getty]

Okay. That's a different responsibility.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. Oh, you know, that's right. I meant to squeeze this in. Maybe we'll do it tomorrow. The report on how miserable things are in Portland as another progressive government is absolutely ruining itself. I feel like the case has been made so thoroughly, who could have possibly missed it? But the answer is the places that elect these people, I guess. Let's see, what do we have? Here's a political story because I don't want to rush through the Russia thing. Russian, through Russian news. We were talking about the, the poll numbers that were out yesterday. Trump disapprovals, yada, yada, yada, 37% approval. Everybody, 76% of people disapprove of the cost of living. And if that's the case, practically nothing else matters in politics. But I think we were perhaps guilty of missing the forest for the trees. Okay, I went back at the. Looking at the chart and its overall approval, cost of living, inflation situation with Iran, relation with allies, the economy, taxes, the immigration, specifically U.S. mexico border policy, blah, blah, blah, Upside down in every single category. Every single one, including the U.S. mexico border. Probably because the mass deportation thing struck a lot of moderate folks as ugly.

[Joe Getty]

And it might be what you just said. When gas is this high, you suck at everything is just the way you feel.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. And when inflation is up, nothing else matters.

[Joe Getty]

True that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why did they ask cost of living and inflation is different question.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know. I've never understood that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, people don't get economics. Might as well ask them about, I don't know, something they know nothing about.

[Joe Getty]

I don't feel like the inflation thing is going to turn around. Well, some of it can't turn around and then all right, does the Russian

[Jack Armstrong]

bear have his mighty paw in a trap of his own making? Stay with us.

[Joe Getty]

I have another commentary on the cost thing, but I'll save it because we'll be talking about it again over the rest of our lives.

[Jack Armstrong]

Unfortunately. True. Yes.

[Joe Getty]

So back to the Russian bear in the trap. Yes, that next Stay here, Armstrong and Getty.

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Okay, I got the details on this. I'm going to have to start getting back into following the Ukraine Russia war as I have not been keeping up on it a lot. So Russia's Victory day parade is May 9. It's a big deal. They have every single year celebrating their victory over the Nazis in World War II. And they usually bring out all their military stuff onto the, onto the street there in Red Square. Putin has been talking about a sea, calling us for a ceasefire so that they could have the parade. That's what Zelensky chimed in on the other day. He said, yeah, we could allow you to have your parade, I guess, you know, basically like you can't unless we let you. But Putin did announce that for the first time in 18 years, Moscow's victory Day parade will feature no military kit as Putin's paranoia continues over being attacked by Ukrainian drones during the parade. So not going to have any of their military stuff out there in the parade. Hoping that that'll keep Zelinsky from attacking it. Wow, that's a good position to be in.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. That paranoia, quote unquote, factors into the next story. But first found this very compelling Walter Russell Mead writing about how Vladimir Putin may well be remembered as the man who broke Russia and how surprising that is because for a long time he made fools of the West. He outmaneuvered them in every way. Invasion of Georgia in 08, the 2014 seizure of Crimea, much of the Donbas the revival of Russian power in the Middle East. Like when Obama walked away from his red line in Syria. Russia moved in, took charge there. They've established like the Lukashenko government in Belarus, which is now gone. They advanced Russian power, taking away French power in Africa. You remember the whole, what it flitted out of my head. The whole, the Wagner group with the, the bald headed, hard ass Prigozhink.

[Joe Getty]

Prigozhin. Right, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Who was, who was projecting Russian power in effect. I mean he was way, way, way on the front foot. But then, as Mead points out. But then the master of the Kremlin made a critical error. Ukraine wasn't a real country, he reasoned. Its people weren't nationalists, its government was a hollow shell. Which turned out to be completely wrong. Underestimated every aspect of that. And then he gets into how, you know, the Russian spring and summer offensives could still push Ukraine into a crisis. You don't know. But even if Putin's stalemated army regained some momentum, the war has gone on so long, cost so much and weakened the sinews of Russian power so severely that any will indeed be Pyrrhic, or do you say pyric? The more likely outcome, an agonizing stalemate that continues to chew up Russian manpower and economic resources threatens Putin's grip on power and the future of Russia itself. And then he goes into after that peak that we're describing, Putin's been watching the decline of Russian influence all across Europe. Viktor Orban just lost in Hungary. That was their closest European ally. Putin may now have to watch helplessly as Hungarian investigators aid their Western colleagues, tracing the flows of Russian dark money into European businesses and political circles. Meanwhile, Europeans have found the financial means to keep Ukraine in the war can likely shore up Ukraine for the foreseeable future. Putin's seen the decline of Russian influence against the rest of the post Soviet space. Armenia and Azerbaijan are now actively cooperating with the West. Some Central Asian republics rather have now closer economic times with China than with Russia. And they're welcoming the expansion of various pipelines that are significant. But I won't go into the details. Bashar Al Assad fell from power in Syria. Russia's been unable to exert significant influence over military or diplomatic events in the conflict between the US and Iran. Their African adventure is not going well at all. Huge setbacks there. Meanwhile, the Ukraine war is exacerbating Russia's demographic decline. Hundreds of thousands of military age men have been killed in the war. Hundreds of thousands more, including many of their best educated Young men fled the country to avoid being fed into the meat grinder. Just crazy. The terrible, terrible trends.

[Joe Getty]

You would think that that would come to a head at some point.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. Well, it's all heading in one direction right now. And then. This is from newser.com who wrote this article. I don't, I'm not familiar with the author, but I'll let you be the judge of how compelling it seems. Russia's president is increasingly running his war from underground. According to the Financial Times and cnn, based on European intelligence, literally underground. The Federal Protective Services sharply tightened security security around Vlad amid rising fears of a coup or assassination attempt, particularly by drone. Putin and his family have reportedly stopped using some residences near Moscow, with the President spending weeks at a time in bunkers. While state media relies more on pre recorded footage. Good security units now patrol the Moscow river, conduct extensive sweeps, while recent Internet outages in the capital are seen by some as tied to anti drone defenses. Okay.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Ukrainian drones, I was just reading about this, have penetrated a lot of Moscow's defenses that Moscow felt were impenetrable and the drones have gotten through. So he is feeling more paranoid about an attack on him personally.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, a lot of the, the air defense systems that have been so completely outmatched and devastated in Iran are from Russia. And so if, if Ukraine could ever come up with significant bulk, I've got to believe they could, they could make quite a bit of hay with, with those attacks as they are now and stepping it up.

[Joe Getty]

So that parade is going to happen on May 9, which is four days from now. And will there be explosions at the parade?

[Jack Armstrong]

Will there be Putin at the parade?

[Joe Getty]

Does Zielinski fit? Yeah, that's a good one. If he doesn't show himself at the parade, that's not a good look. And does Zelensky attack a parade full of, you know, civilians lining the parade route? Certainly Russia doesn't have any problem doing that to him.

[Jack Armstrong]

They gotta have a decent Putin stand in. Right. Body double.

[Joe Getty]

Supposed to be bunches of them.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Have them throw on a ball cap, sunglasses. Nobody will ever know.

[Joe Getty]

When I was in Moscow in January 2007, Gladys, thank you. There was a Putin lookalike outside of the Kremlin and you could get your picture taken with him. Crazy in a couple of ways. One, this guy looked exactly like Vladimir Putin. But two, that it was just such a different time as recently as 2007 where it was just kind of funny. Putin's just kind of a, you know, he's an elected president who will Leave office at the end of his term and kind of a friend of the United States and it's a different country. That was that brief period of time where the world.

[Jack Armstrong]

They're liberalizing. Yes. Yeah, yeah. I think Russia is like the highest level of don't go there at this point for Americans.

[Joe Getty]

You certainly would not do the vacation I did.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I. I would love to, but I wouldn't. Yeah. Okay. Coming up, mosquito experts tell you how to avoid getting those pesky mosquito bites.

[Joe Getty]

But mosquitoes don't particularly like me. They don't hate me. Like, as in they won't sting me, but bite me or whatever it is. But I'm not near as bad as, like, my. One of my kids just gets eaten alive. If there are mosquitoes outside, yeah, my wife gets bitten.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know if she gets bitten more than me, but they, like, swell up like crazy. It's a much more significant thing. I get a mosquito bite. I think, ah, it's gonna age for a little while. But no, it's.

[Joe Getty]

I think it's because of my diet. I just taste horrible.

[Jack Armstrong]

Probably. Probably. So.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

Got an update coming up on the OpenAI Elon Musk's scam Altman trial and Elon is a very confident dude. If what he's saying is true, he is in good shape for this trial.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that one came out kind of hot a few days ago. I'd kind of let it slip away from my My Attention radar. So good update on that coming up. Promised it. Here it is. I remember learning this as a kid. I got it wrong. I was quizzed what's the deadliest animal on earth?

[Joe Getty]

And I went with beaver, alligator, mosquito.

[Jack Armstrong]

Clearly it's not even close. Now mosquitoes kill people through carrying Disease usually malaria. Dengue Jack. Malaria, certainly west Nile virus.

[Joe Getty]

Mosquitoes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Me neither sir. They tell me sir. Anyway, I'm not gonna go all clickbaity on you. You're probably not gonna d anything you get from mosquito in the United States.

[Joe Getty]

Probably.

[Jack Armstrong]

But they're annoying AF as the kids say. Particularly if you swell up like crazy like my wife does when she gets a bite. Although longtime friend personally and of the show Dave said his son had that and for whatever reason Bactine prevented the swelling. He doesn't know what the science is and Dave is a very. He's not a wackadoodle new age curie guy. He said it really worked for his son. So humble back teen who knew? Anyway, so mosquito experts, Jack entomologists, they don't like getting bit any more than you do. And here are the five things they do to minimize mosquito bites.

[Joe Getty]

Number one, stay inside.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a good one. Wear a really long clothes. Dress up like you're exploring the moon. The first one is is obvious but it is easy to forget. Eliminate standing water in your yard. Go around puddles, overturned plants, old tires.

[Joe Getty]

I love a stagnant pond. I just, I love that rainbowy color you get on top of it when it's been sitting there for a long time.

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[Joe Getty]

The way it smells. I just like them. I like wheelbarrow. That was the problem I always had at the farm. Forget the wheelbarrow. Sitting out there filled water and just be full of mosquito eggs.

[Jack Armstrong]

You gotta turn that bastard upside down.

[Joe Getty]

Dang right, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, where was I? Oh, the basis of potted plants. That's another good one. You got like the dessert plate under the plants anyway blah blah blah. So that's important because that's where they breed and they breed really quickly. So dump that, dump that stuff out. If you can't get rid of standing water, consider BTI Jack for standing water that can't be emptied like your yard has a fish pond. A larva side containing bti, bacillus thuringenius subspecies israeliana use as you know may

[Joe Getty]

be helpful condescending to act like we didn't know that these products contain a

[Jack Armstrong]

bacterium that kills mosquito larvae in the water and are very safe. BTI bacterium produce toxins that specifically target mosquito black fly no need to bring race into it and fungus gnat larvae and is not harmful to other insects, humans, birds, fish or other animals.

[Joe Getty]

Well when I was in a teenager in once again Gladys. One more time and you're into overtime. You get time and a half half you have to play that part. When I was a teenager in rural western Kansas, a big truck spewing out almost certainly cancer causing clouds of anti mosquito stuff would drive through town and all the kids, we'd all run through the cloud of mosquito spray because 100%

[Jack Armstrong]

did the same thing as a kid did this. I can still smell that.

[Joe Getty]

Smell me. I can too. And it was not a good smell

[Jack Armstrong]

other than putting a.45 in your mouth and pulling the trigger. It's hard to picture a worse idea.

[Joe Getty]

What a different view we had in the world back then because none of the parents were saying, hey, don't do that. That's poison for mosquitoes. You don't need to run through that and breathe it. But no parents were saying that.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think I remember my, my mom saying that's probably a bad idea. You need to stop doing that. But I mean, probably a bad idea again, it's practically a suicide attempt. All right, so number three, apply details. Picaridin or oil of lemon eucalyptus repellent. You know, I, I've got friends and particularly the gals who we hang out with are very much into their essential oils and lemon oils and eucalyptus to keep the bugs off. I'm like, give me the most horrendous output of America's factory.

[Joe Getty]

I agree. I want that.

[Jack Armstrong]

I want stuff you can only get in North Korea.

[Joe Getty]

All right.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's what I want on my skin anyway. Deed is the best thing to prevent biting. Says the professor of biology at the University of Washington. Developed by the US army in the forties and suppresses scents of mosquitoes. Have a harder time smelling humans. You probably didn't know that a lot of so called repellents, including the kind of naturalistic stuff, it's that the mosquitoes can't sense you're there and that they want to munch on you. It doesn't literally repel them as much as it blinds them, which I found really interesting.

[Joe Getty]

Do some people just smell worse? Like people that don't bathe? Do they get more mosquito bites or fewer? Or maybe you can't tell because you got so many lice biting you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh geez, what the hell? Disgusting. And now everybody's gonna itch for the rest of the day. Yikes.

[Joe Getty]

I'm particularly picturing a particularly dirty person.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ah, well, yes, indeed they should. They should be more clean.

[Joe Getty]

Why are you looking at me?

[Jack Armstrong]

What was I gonna say? You've completely nuked my mind. Clean. All right, we'll move on. Turn clothing into a shield. When spending time outdoors in mosquito prone settings. Such as while gardening or doing yard work, wear long pants and long sleeves. At leaves less skin that you have to put repellent on.

[Joe Getty]

Do you want to. You want to. You want at some point to hear the grossest thing I've ever heard?

[Jack Armstrong]

No.

[Joe Getty]

No.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, Michael, you get a vote, too. Go ahead.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, no.

[Jack Armstrong]

You've betrayed me, Michael. And I know if Katie was here, she'd say, hell, yeah, let's hear.

[Joe Getty]

She would say that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Are you gonna. Oh, my God. I'm trying to say this about. All right, I will say one more thing, and then you can decide on a trip. I am a super big fan of the, like, lightweight Columbia makes good clothes. You know, I've got some stuff from what's the Other, Like, Eddie Bauer. It's like they call them guide pants or whatever. Super light, super stretchy, but they keep the damn bugs off you and the

[Joe Getty]

sun off you, too.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, strategy number five. Use fans and spatial repellents in outdoor living areas. Fans, because they're not good flyers. Spatial repellents are devices that create a protective radius. These devices, also called spatial emanators. Thermocell makes one. I've always been skeptical that those are fake, but they often have rechargeable batteries and emit just a small amount of a chemical that will deter the mosquitoes from coming into an area. If you're going to be eating outside and staying in one place, I think that they can create an effective bubble of protection around you. And again, these are entomologists who study mosquitoes, so I guess those things are real. What the heck? Catch me outside. How about that? There's a mosquito. Yeah. What have you decided?

[Joe Getty]

So this is apropos of nothing other than me bringing up dirty people. And every time the story of people who aren't clean comes up, I think about this because I heard it firsthand. It was from the medical professional who told me this story. So it's firsthand, but you're hearing it secondhand. But it's always stuck in my head, and it's really gross. And if you don't want to hear gross, turn off the radio for a little bit. I guess.

[Jack Armstrong]

I have a bad feeling about this.

[Joe Getty]

He had a very overweight patient that came in for some sort of health problem, and. And he always hated when she came in because. And he felt bad about this, but she smelled so horrible, it was difficult to, like, deal with her. I'll bet that happens a lot.

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[Jack Armstrong]

That's sad. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, the problem was around her abdomen area and her Very, very large, big woman boobs were covering her abdomen area, so he had to ask her to lift those up.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, boy.

[Joe Getty]

And there was a tremendous amount of mold growing underneath her boobs.

[Jack Armstrong]

Boy, Boob mold. Oh, boy. No, you don't want that.

[Joe Getty]

And that's what was causing her to smell so bad.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know about you folks. I was actually braced for something worse than that. What's worse than that? I feel a feeling of relief.

[Joe Getty]

Can you make up some. Make up something worse than that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I can't, but I won't, because I have restraint.

[Joe Getty]

I don't think I can make up something worse than that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Boob mold.

[Joe Getty]

Somebody whose boobs are so big and hang down and she doesn't clean herself that the mold is growing under there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sub Boo Boo mold. I'll bet it was. I'll bet the scent. The aroma was.

[Joe Getty]

That's what he said. Like, could hardly stand to be in

[Jack Armstrong]

the room with her vomitus.

[Joe Getty]

The hell?

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An aggressive scent.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, golly. That's a bad way to be. I had moldy.

[Joe Getty]

What? Moldy is a bad way to be.

[Jack Armstrong]

I had a twofer for you, the second half of which is quite cerebral. And it's an analysis of how the state of Utah is trying to deal with bums and junkies. And not in the cal. Unicornia way of just. Or, you know, Seattle, Portland, whatever. Make them as comfortable and happy as possible. But they're running into all sorts of problems, which does not mean it's not worth doing. And we will talk about it tomorrow. I. Damn it, I swear we will. But I was going to pair it with this vagrant in the East Village of New York who has been called the smelliest man in New York City. He's a vagrant junkie with no control of his bodily functions. And he's become infamous in that part of New York. Wow. That's worse than boob mold. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

It's such a different thing, but yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

This description I will not read to you. Good. Do they notice that which is heard cannot be unheard?

[Joe Getty]

Do they not notice that themselves? Like a boom. Old lady. Then she in the car, sometimes think, what is that? Is there a McDonald's wrapper in here?

[Jack Armstrong]

The fascinating thing about smell is the longer you smell something, the less you can smell.

[Joe Getty]

True. Your mind compensates somehow. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Smell rose. Smell a rose for 30 solid seconds, and by the end it'll be like, why was I so enthralled by that 30 seconds ago? It's weird.

[Joe Getty]

Or having worked in lots of feedlots and stuff like that. It you don't even notice it at

[Jack Armstrong]

all which is a blessing. Yeah you

[Joe Getty]

latest from the Scam Altman Elon Musk trial and nothing like the preceding stuff.

[Jack Armstrong]

Tell you the word dripping factors but that's all I'm going to say. God you have that's all I'm going to say 8 year old in terms of your I'm the one with restraint

[Joe Getty]

that Stanford marshmallow thing on impulse control or whatever. You would fail that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh oh right. I do love a marshmallow.

[Joe Getty]

You don't have the ability to hold back you child. God.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hey stay tuned Armstrong and Getty.

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[Joe Getty]

So the outlines of the trial are this Elon Musk says that he and Sam Altman. Well Elon really started did. He came back but with the financing in the name and everything like that for Open AI. And he and Altman, Sam Altman built it together with the idea that this is going to be a nonprofit. The first big AI company in the world is going to be a nonprofit. It's going to be open to everyone so we can see what's going on with AI. He says that Sam Altman started to try to make it a for profit company to become wealthy and that's when Elon left. And now they're in a lawsuit and all that sort of stuff. And Elon wants $130 billion and an apology or something. I don't know what that is. The name that gets left out a lot is this guy Brockman. He is the other dude, Kent Brockman. I for one welcome our overlords. I forget what the guy's name is. First name is.

[Jack Armstrong]

That doesn't matter.

[Joe Getty]

Brockman and Altman are the guys that started or they're still with OpenAI. Some questioning yesterday by Elon Musk's lawyer with Brockman revealed his state in OpenAI is now worth close to $30 billion. This Brockman dudes worth $30 billion.

[Jack Armstrong]

Woof.

[Joe Getty]

And that he holds a stake in multiple companies that do business with open AI, which would tend to make you not completely uninterested in how open AI is doing relative to your other companies. Anyway, leaning heavily on Brockman's diary entries, which I wanted to break in here and say, oh, if you have a diary, can. Can they access that? How does that work?

[Jack Armstrong]

How would.

[Joe Getty]

How does anybody have a diary if something goes wrong that the government or whoever can grab your diary and start reading entries, It's a written record. I need to know more about that. I thought that was interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

I guess if they get a search warrant for any materials relevant, then why

[Joe Getty]

does anybody keep a diary? Leaning heavily on Brockman's diary entries, Elon's lawyer tried to paint Brockman as motivated by money at the expense of OpenAI's nonprofit mission. He presented one entry in which Brockman wrote to himself, financially, what's it going to take to make me a billionaire? What you really wanted to be was a billionaire, right? Mullo asked, based on the diary entry.

[Jack Armstrong]

So do I, Brockman replied.

[Joe Getty]

Solving for the mission has always been my primary motivation remains. So today, the mission being, you know, an OpenAI company that will help the world. And I'm not so sure I believe that. Here's the interesting thing that came out yesterday, though. Two days before the trial started, which would just be two weeks ago, Musk messaged Brockman to gauge his interest in settling the case, according to an OpenAI filing released before the start of testimony, which I feel like undercuts Elon a little since I thought he was trying to let the world know how these scumbags took a not for profit philanthropic organization and turned it for profit. If you're just going to take the $130 billion or whatever you settle for and nobody learns this, I. I don't know. Anyway, after Brockman suggested that both sides dropped their claims, Musk responded with this threat. By the end of this week, you and Sam will be the most hated men in America, if you insist. So it will be, Musk said, according to the brief.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

I will make you the most hated men in America. I actually don't think enough people are paying attention or care or understand what AI is to be. Make them the most hated men in America, but maybe the most hated men in the tech world. I don't know if you could work

[Jack Armstrong]

in like a hot Hollywood starlet in a dog that was missing for a couple of years and made its way home. You could Get America to pay attention. But I don't think this is sexy enough.

[Joe Getty]

Elon is asking the court to remove Altman and Brockman from their leadership roles at OpenAI. And also he wants $180 billion that he thinks belongs to him, but. So that's his goal. Maybe the settlement, I guess, would have included that you guys stepped down, we don't have to go through this whole thing, and you end up being hated by everyone. They apparently are not as worried about being hated as Elon thinks they are. During one entry from November of 2017 that Elon's lawyer showed to the jury, Brockman wrote, by the way, another realization from his this is that it'd be wrong to steal the nonprofit from him to convert to a B corp that's a profitable corporation. Without him. That'd be pretty morally bankrupt. And he's really not an idiot. That's a pretty damning entry.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I'd say that gun's got a little smoke coming out of it.

[Joe Getty]

I mean, that might be the whole trial right there. As Brockman had said to himself that this would be wrong. Morally bankrupt, and that they were taking it from a nonprofit to a for profit business. Brockman actually went on to say in the diary entry that it would be hard for him to look at himself in the mirror.

[Jack Armstrong]

Mirror. That's some damn.

[Joe Getty]

That's some damning testimony.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wish I hadn't written that.

[Joe Getty]

Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's get a little final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap things up for the day. Michelangelo, you will lead us bravely into the future. What's your final thought? Yeah, guys, in the last 40 minutes, you mentioned mosquitoes, which made me itch. You mentioned boob mold, and then you mentioned people with no bowel control. Welcome to the Ang Fear Factor show.

[Joe Getty]

No kidding.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. Sorry. Jack, a final thought for us.

[Joe Getty]

I think we're going back to full on war, and it's going to be us, Israel and the UAE at least pounding the crap out of Iran. I'll be shocked if that doesn't happen this week.

[Jack Armstrong]

Katie. Katie, the news lady is on maternity leave. My final thought is this. Future historians. When you're writing about our age and what went terribly, terribly wrong, the key phrase is going to be you couldn't get anyone to pay attention to what was important.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I thought of that. I was watching CBS news last night, eight minutes in to a 22 minute newscast. Eight minutes in. Before they got around to the war in Iran, which is important, they had some YouTube videos of a plane hitting this or that. All stuff that has no effect on you whatsoever before they got deep into the news and started covering anything that matters. Not good. Good. Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

[Jack Armstrong]

So many people. Thanks. So little time. Go To Armstrong and getty.com check out Hot links. Check out the swag store. We've got the video of the armed maniac who was turned loose by the California authorities as he was menacing families.

[Joe Getty]

You'll have a nightmare. See you tomorrow. God bless America.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and get it and there was

[Joe Getty]

a tremendous amount of mold growing underneath her boobs.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sub Booble mold. I'll bet it was. I'll bet the the scent the aroma was that's what he an aggressive scent. Oh golly. That's a bad way to be. What?

[Joe Getty]

Moldy is the bad way to be.

[Jack Armstrong]

Get the entire show on the podcast.

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