A Very Impressive Stash

Summary

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Armstrong & Getty On Demand – "A Very Impressive Stash"

Date: May 28, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In this lively and wide-ranging episode, Jack and Joe dig into the latest dramatic developments in the ongoing Iran conflict, focusing on the complex interplay of diplomacy, sanctions, and economic pressures. The hosts analyze the ambiguous state of ceasefires, question the effectiveness of sanctions, and highlight how global politics and economic hardship are colliding with domestic narratives about gas prices and public opinion. Later, the show pivots to a viral Britney Spears incident, a bizarre CIA theft case, and a cascade of thoughts on AI’s impact—ranging from cognitive laziness to the Pope's controversial call for regulation. The hosts wrap up with cultural commentary and a look at collegiate protest lawsuits, peppered with their trademark humor and skepticism.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Latest on Iran, Ceasefires & Gulf Tensions

(03:00 – 15:20)

• Escalations Overnight:

  • Iran launched multiple drones at a commercial vessel in the Strait of Hormuz, countered by U.S. forces and retaliatory strikes.
  • Drones and ballistic missiles targeted a U.S. base in Kuwait, triggering Kuwaiti sirens and interceptors.
    (03:00 – 04:24)
  • Israeli targeted assassination in Beirut takes out a Hezbollah missile commander.

• Ceasefire Irony & Gulf State Reactions:

  • Jack points out the paradox: “This is all during the ceasefire, which… As long as both sides are saying the ceasefire still holds, I guess you still have a ceasefire.”
    (04:24) - Jack Armstrong

  • Joe speculates that Gulf states are “desperate to not have the real hostilities start again, hoping Iran caves because of the financial situation.”
    (05:07 – 05:35)

• Negotiation Farce & Economic Desperation:

  • Jack summarizes strange negotiation posturing, with both sides touting deals the other rejects. Iran’s “official framework” essentially benefits itself, but omits key issues (nuclear program, enriched uranium).
    (05:35 – 07:02)
  • Financial collapse is Iran’s pressure point: staple food prices are skyrocketing, sanctions sting harder, and nationalist fervor is running out.
    • “At some point they're gonna say...all right, that's enough. We ain't got no food, we ain't got no fuel, we ain't got no electricity.”
      (08:12) - Jack Armstrong

• The Sanctions Question:

  • Both hosts are skeptical about the logic of “additional sanctions,” asking why the maximum wasn't used from the start.
    • “Why, if there are more sanctions available before yesterday, why weren’t we doing them already?”
      (08:52) - Jack Armstrong
  • Joe observes, “Some of them involve kind of abusing your status as the world financial clearinghouse… you don't want to get a rep for doing that too much.”
    (09:16)

• The Strategic Deadlock:

  • Mark Halperin’s analysis summarized: “There can be no sustainable deal with Tehran… What does Donald Trump plan to do to change the trajectory?”
    (10:57 – 11:45)

  • Joe questions tying gas prices to existential security issues: “Either you gotta stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon...or it’s not. It's like if you have to amputate a leg because you’ve got an infection that'll kill you…”
    (11:48 – 12:18)

  • Jack: “Could be the worst thing to ever happen on the planet if Iran got a bomb.”
    (12:25)

  • The hosts agree the situation is murky and full of unknowns, with regimes seemingly stable until they suddenly fall—a nod to past collapses (Soviet Union, Arab Spring).
    (13:50 – 14:18)

2. Viral & Cultural Moments: Britney Spears DUI Audio & Lasagna Stories

(18:05 – 22:22)

• Britney Spears DUI Clip:

  • The hosts dissect audio from Britney Spears’ DUI stop, noting her childlike, confused tone and an attempt to bribe police with lasagna.

    • “She sounded like a child and she's 45, I think.” (19:08) - Jack Armstrong
    • “Britney Spears says, you want to come over? I'll make you a lasagna. I think I’m in. Wow. At least think about it.”
      (18:45) - Jack Armstrong

  • Both hosts empathize, linking her troubled adulthood to intense childhood fame and parental exploitation.

    • “Your parents trotted you out as a sex object to the world…to make gazillions of dollars.” (19:25 – Jack Armstrong)

• Lasagna & Italian Tradition:

  • Spurred by Britney’s lasagna offer, the hosts reminisce about homemade vs. store-bought lasagna, lamenting lost cultural traditions of home cooking:
    • “Grown men that knew how to make lasagna from scratch because their moms taught them…it was still a tradition in the 2000s.” (21:59 – Jack Armstrong)
    • “Culture, tradition. Yeah. Love that.” (22:06 – Joe Getty)

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3. Bizarre CIA Heist: $40 Million in Gold Bars

(25:00 – 28:27)

• The Case:

  • A former CIA official allegedly stole 303 gold bars (worth over $40 million), stashing them at home. He also faked his credentials and took $77,000 in “nickel and dime” leave pay fraud.

    • “If I'm this guy's spouse…you have $40 million in gold bars and you’re gonna nickel and dime the government over leave pay?” (25:58 – Joe Getty)

  • Hosts marvel at criminal psychology: Why steal so much and still bother with petty fraud? Why not disappear after such a haul?

    • “You don't need $40 million. Take...a few that wouldn't be as likely to be noticed.” (26:28 – Jack Armstrong)

  • The story raises questions about U.S. governmental background checks:

    • “So your thorough background check...doesn't include actually seeing if they went to the university they wrote down?” (27:27 – Jack Armstrong)

  • FBI found missing cash as well, not just gold.

    • “At some point, don't you disappear, brother.” (28:14 – Joe Getty)

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4. AI & Society: The Pope, Laziness, and Job Market Shifts

(28:27 – 40:09)

• Pope Leo’s AI Manifesto:

  • Pope warns that AI risks “an attack on the dignity of man and the dignity of work,” calling for strict government regulation—aligns, perhaps awkwardly, with left-wing U.S. politicians.
    • Joe: “Stay in your lane, Pope Leo…help us find Jesus. The idea that the AOCs and Bernie Sanders of the world ought to be, you know, in charge of America’s AI development…yeah, I don’t think so, Mr. Pope.” (29:32 – 30:08)

• Career Instability in the AI Age:

  • Today's college grads are predicted to have twice as many jobs as those who started 15 years ago, partly due to AI disruption.

    • “The fields you excel in from age 22 to 27 might not exist when you’re 28.” (31:05 – Joe Getty)
    • “We haven’t adjusted the world for the fact that most people live a really long time.” (32:09 – Jack Armstrong)

  • 42% of recent grads work jobs not requiring a degree. Hosts question predictions about future careers given the uncertainty AI brings.

• New Research: AI Makes Us ‘Dumb’

  • Study: Just 10 minutes of using AI chatbots can reduce persistence with problem solving. Users dependent on AI quickly lose motivation and cognitive stamina when forced to go without.

    • “They got intellectually very lazy using AI for 10 minutes.” (38:01 – Joe Getty)

  • Jack relates this finding to the broader digital age, lamenting our decreasing tendency to think for ourselves:

    • “We do that with everything rather than figure it out somewhat or think about it a little longer… the ability to figure things out is going to go away.” (38:08 – 39:14)

  • Joe likens the experience to relying on an electric bike: “When you become reliant on it you’re like…gotta pedal uphill?” (39:41 – 40:03)

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5. Quick Hits: Culture, Lawsuits, and Trump Cabinet Teaser

(42:48 – 46:48)

• James Carville Riff:

  • Carville says Trump “can’t be the Antichrist because he’s too dumb.” Joe quips: “Meanwhile, Carville thinks he’s Jesus because everyone who sees his face says 'Jesus.'” (42:48 – 43:00)

• Sugar Ray Leonard Family Drama:

  • Sugar Ray Leonard’s son, battling addiction, is now subject to a restraining order after violent incidents.
    • “Freaking modern drugs, man…It’s a disaster.” (44:07 – 44:29)

• UCLA Targeted in DOJ Lawsuit:

  • DOJ sues UCLA for “hostile educational environment” after anti-Semitic campus blockades during Israel/Palestine protests.
    • “Mob of thugs took over the campus…blocking Jewish students...and they got away with it.” (44:29 – 45:35)
    • “Illustrates how deep the rot is in our universities…” (46:21 – Joe Getty)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Iran:

  • “Every regime looks solid up until the moment they're not. So that's why it’s always really hard to tell.”
    (13:50 – Jack Armstrong)

  • “Could be the worst thing to ever happen on the planet if Iran got a bomb.”
    (12:25 – Jack Armstrong)

• On AI Laziness:

  • “They got intellectually very lazy using AI for 10 minutes.”
    (38:01 – Joe Getty)

  • “When you become reliant on it you’re like…gotta pedal uphill?”
    (39:41 – Joe Getty)

• On Tradition:

  • “Grown men that knew how to make lasagna from scratch because their moms taught them.”
    (21:59 – Jack Armstrong)

• On Regulatory Overreach:

  • “Stay in your lane, Pope Leo…help us find Jesus.”
    (30:08 – Joe Getty)

• On Higher Ed Hypocrisy:

  • “Mob of thugs took over the campus…blocking Jewish students...and they got away with it.”
    (44:29 – Jack Armstrong)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Iran/gulf updates, diplomacy & sanctions: 03:00 – 15:20
• Britney Spears/Lasagna/Cultural riff: 18:05 – 22:22
• CIA $40M gold heist story: 25:00 – 28:27
• AI: The Pope, cognitive decline, job future: 28:27 – 40:09
• Quick hits (Carville, Leonard, UCLA): 42:48 – 46:48

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Tone & Style

Armstrong & Getty’s tone throughout is lively, skeptical, sometimes irreverent, and often laced with humor and cultural asides. Both hosts blend substantive analysis with quick-witted banter, pushing listeners to question headlines and think critically about the motives behind the news.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode is a quintessential Armstrong & Getty take on world affairs, where global crises and U.S. politics intersect with pop culture, crime oddities, and the relentless march of technology. If you want to keep up with Iran’s war and sanctions drama, marvel at bizarre true-crime stories, reflect on tradition, and ask if AI is making us all dumber—this episode hits every note, in classic, conversational style.

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[News Reporter]

We've heard from the foreign ministries of many of the Gulf states who have come out and condemned Iran for targeting Kuwaiti airspace. The US Air bases that are on the ground in Kuwait causing Kuwaiti sirens to blare here overnight, as well as the interceptors to be put in motion in order to neutralize that threat.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, the Arab states have condemned Iran. I'll bet they're feeling the rough side of the tongue of the leaders who have condemned what they've done. So first we'll update you on what happened overnight since last you checked in on the war with Iran. There was quite a bit and then where we are now with the sanctions, which is pretty darned interesting. Here's Tre Yinx of fox.

[News Reporter Trey Yinx]

A significant development overnight as Iran launched drones toward a commercial vessel attempting to pass through the Strait of Hormuz. CENTCOM says at least five one way attack drones were launched toward the vessel and intercepted. We know that a strike was also conducted against a control station near the city of Bandar Abbas that was about to launch a 6 drone. In response, the Iranians launched a drone and ballistic missile attack against Kuwait, targeting a US Base there. According to Iran's irgc, the Kuwaitis confirmed an attack on their territory that triggered sirens and alerts. Just two hours ago, the Israelis conducted a targeted assassination against the Lebanese capital of Beirut, taking out a top Hezbollah missile commander there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Bill, thank you. Trey. Trey Yings, Tel Aviv this is all during the ceasefire, which a lot of ceasefires through history have had a fair amount of back and forth. As long as both sides are saying the ceasefire still holds, I guess you still have a ceasefire. A ceasefire is over when one or more side says that's it.

[Joe Getty]

I need somebody to explain to me how the current somewhat CC ceasefire is a better strategy than continuing to pound Iran.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think.

[Joe Getty]

Go ahead.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think that Trump just doesn't want to engage in full out war for whatever reason.

[Joe Getty]

I think Gulf states are probably saying, hey, hey, hey, can we just, let's give this a real good try before we get the violence going again because I know it was absolutely devastating to the uae. Some of those giant gleaming cities with the highest skyscrapers in the world and the magnificent architecture and the resort sorts that are artificial, this, that and the other, they're empty right now. So I think our allies in the region are probably desperate to not have the you know, the.

[Jack Armstrong]

The real hostilities start again, hoping Iran caves because of the financial situation. To that New York Times today. Iranian state television reported on Wednesday that had obtained an initial unofficial framework for an agreement. So this is a weird thing that's going on right now. We'll say we have an agreement and we'll lay out what the stuff is that's beneficial to us, and then Iran will say we don't agree to that. And now Iran is announcing we have an agreement and they lay off the stuff that's beneficial to them, and we say we don't agree to that. Back to the New York Times. The White House roundly dismissed the report, calling it. Com a complete fabrication. And Mr. Trump said several of the terms it outlined would be unacceptable. So Iran just did the same thing basically, that we did over the weekend. Sounds to me like where you announced there's a deal and the other side hasn't agreed to it. I don't know. I don't know if both sides are trying to pull off the presumptive clothes or like we're talking to people who agree to stuff, but they aren't the real power brokers.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

History will tell, I guess.

[Joe Getty]

And there's so much happening behind the scenes that I know I. I'm not privy to and won't hear maybe for the forever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Under the years from now, under the framework released by Iran, Iran would reopen the Strait of Hormuz to commercial ships, but it would continue to control the strait in cooperation with Oman. And it would not charge tolls.

[Joe Getty]

It would just charge huge fees for navigation assistance. Please.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. In return, the United States would lift its naval blockade on ships entering and leaving Iranian ports. So we leave and you get to control the strait is not a deal we're going to agree to, I would assume. And the report that Iran put out saying we have a deal made no mention of the most contentious issues, like the future of their nuclear program or the stockpile of their enriched uranium. So other than that, we're very close. The Wall Street Journal version, Iran's hardline rulers aren't willing to concede much to secure a deal. They're eager to deter future attacks and they want the sanctions to end, but they aren't willing to give on a whole bunch of different stuff. But the government is also very eager to secure financial relief because the blockade is deepening the economic crisis. One Iranian official said the economy had held up earlier in the war, but that has changed now after Washington began stopping vessels from entering and leaving Iranian terminals, the amount of money they're getting dropped off so much that they're in really bad shape. And one Iranian official said nationalism can only work for so long, referring to Iranians reasons to support the regime's war effort. That's the people that get in the streets and chant death to America. At some point they're gonna say, according to this Iranian, they're gonna say, all right, that's enough. We ain't got no food, we ain't got no fuel, we ain't got no electricity. Um, and to that point, the sanctions. Associated Press the Trump administration today or yesterday placed additional sanctions on Iran. I'll never understand this with sanctions. I've wondered about it my whole life. Some country or person does something horrible to us and we put sanctions on them, and then something else happens and then they announce additional sanctions. And I always think, how bad does

[Joe Getty]

it got to get?

[Jack Armstrong]

Why, if these, if there are more sanctions available before yesterday, why weren't we doing them already?

[Joe Getty]

Exactly. Yeah, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why would. We never understood that. And I've never had it explained to me. Why aren't we doing the absolute maximum to the absolute limit of sanctions that we have power over already? What is there.

[Joe Getty]

There are a couple of reasons you wouldn't want to do that because some of them involve kind of abusing your status as the world financial clearinghouse. And you don't want to get a rep for doing that too much or you won't be that anymore. Well, yeah, but there's a long history of us continuing to, you know, not freeze assets and seize things. Anyway, I don't want to get into those weeds, but I see your point. Generally, I thought it was interesting that the. What's this guy's. The speaker, the parliament, Iranian president, whatever the hell that means. They're talking about how prices of, like, your staple foods, rice, meat, bread, cheese, have skyrocketed in recent weeks and Iranian households are super pressured, blah, blah, blah. And the government's afraid of stability falling apart again. And the president, Masoud Pozetian and other pragmatists realized the slide will have to be stemmed if they're to maintain stability. Meeting the worsening economic picture is becoming a key pressure point in the negotiations with Washington. Here's what he said to the Tehran Chamber of Commerce Wednesday. I'm sure their meetings are cheery these days. He said, the main war is in the economic field. If you fail, the country fails.

[Jack Armstrong]

The Tehran Chamber of Commerce.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, they're like, yeah, yeah, there won't be a lunch this week. And in fact, there won't be any water or electricity at the big meeting. So come as you are, bring a flashlight and a bottled water.

[Jack Armstrong]

So the question is, let me give you Mark Halperin's assessment of all those articles from the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, et cetera, et cetera.

[Joe Getty]

Excellent.

[Jack Armstrong]

We all need to stop asking if there's going to be a US Iran agreement that holds or not. Under current trajectory, there can be no sustainable deal with Tehran. So the question is, what does Donald Trump plan to do to change the trajectory? Maybe Scott Bessant, Treasury Secretary, will make that clear at the White House briefing today. But if the President won't go back to full scale war, maybe the, maybe the economic pressure is still the answer. It's gotta be a limit to how long Iran can put up with this. They're just hoping that they're, that they can hold out longer than Trump is willing to hold out. With the high gas prices in the midterms and like I watch MSNBC and man, every day they're just hammering the gas prices and Trump doesn't care about your, you know, financial well being. And they run that clip over and

[Joe Getty]

over again, I'm sure where he said, I don't care about that.

[Jack Armstrong]

And some of my favorite pundits who were pro war in the beginning have turned and now think it was a bad idea. I don't understand how we attach gas prices to this at all. Either got a stat stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon because it'd be the, like the worst thing that ever happened to the world, or it's not. And you just gotta, it's, it's like, it's like if you have to amputate a leg because you got an infection that'll kill you. Yeah, it's really, really horrible. But the alternative is worse.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's a good metaphor. And you're right. Getting the bomb could literally be the worst thing ever to happen to humanity.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's not an exaggeration. Could be the worst thing to ever happen on the planet if Iran got a bomb. In fact, I think it probably would be.

[Joe Getty]

But let me get back to Halpern's analysis. Unless this is directly related, the bug

[Jack Armstrong]

might be related, but the administration has not done a good job of convincing people of that.

[Joe Getty]

So back to Halperin's analysis, which I thought was terrific. As usual, him talking about observing the current trajectory, there's no chance of a deal, a sustainable deal. I agree completely. I just, I think what, what the hell are any of you talking about. On the other hand, their trajectory might be different than we think it is because of the economic stuff going on behind the scenes in Iran, as we've been discussing, or the diplomatic behind closed doors conversation is so wildly, radically different than the public pronunciations. We're all getting misled by the public, you know, pronouncements. I should say it's one of those two things or we're just completely wasting our time and Trump is getting strung along and we're not pounding around for, I don't know, some of the reasons we've discussed. It's all so murky. I mean, Warren, conflict is always somewhat murky, but I swear this is, this is like an algebra equation with all variables. I don't even know how to do the math.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'll bet Trump paces the Oval Office every day thinking they can't, they can't put up with this much longer, thinking, you know, they gotta be about to fall. And if you're old enough in terms of regimes following falling, whether it's, you know, the wall coming down in East Germany or the Soviet Union or the Arab Spring or all these different. Every regime looks solid up until the moment they're not. So that's why it's always really hard to tell.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. My final thought on the topic is on the popularity of the war and people saying it was a good idea or bad idea. I'm back to, you know, success as a thousand father and failures and orphan. It reminds me of what every NFL coach knows. If I go for it on 4th and 2 and make it, I'm the world's greatest genius. But if we don't make it, I should be fired immediately, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

That is true.

[Joe Getty]

Same place, same situation. So this thing turns around, Iran gives up the nukes, the Middle east becomes a peaceful, you know, Valhalla. Well then this is 88% of Americans to say, hell yeah, the war was a great idea.

[Jack Armstrong]

Up with the usa.

[Joe Getty]

So we just got to see do we make it on 4th and 2 or not.

[Jack Armstrong]

I just wish they'd make the argument better. You can't have a well. Gas will be too expensive during the summer. Be the other side of the argument of Iran having a nuclear weapon.

[Joe Getty]

Right. That's crazy, right?

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[Police Officer or Dispatcher]

Can you turn the vehicle off?

[Jack Armstrong]

No.

[Police Officer or Dispatcher]

Can I go follow you up there so I'm not on the street with all these people?

[Joe Getty]

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[Police Officer or Dispatcher]

my baby's right down there in our hotel room, please.

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Here. How about this what if we have you get out of the car, we'll

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put you in one of our cars

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and we'll drive around the corner so we're somewhere that there's a bunch of people driving by.

[Police Officer or Dispatcher]

Oh, I don't want to get in your car, sir. You can come to my house. I'll make you food and lasagna or whatever you want. I have a poop. My babies are coming to my house tonight.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, wow. Drunk Britney Spears trying to argue during a DUI arrest that she'll bring them to the house and make them lasagna and let them swim in her pool.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I didn't know what that was until we got. Until I heard lasagna, because we've had this clip for several days. The fact that Britney Spears offered the cops lasagna. Come to my house and I'll make you lasagna. I got to admit, Britney Spears says, you want to come over? I'll make you a lasagna. I think I'm in. Wow. At least think about it. She sounded like a child and she's 45, I think.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the whole part about my babies are coming to my house tonight.

[Jack Armstrong]

I.

[Joe Getty]

She has some serious mental problems, which you would too. And she was afraid she'd lose like visitation or whatever the situation is with her kids.

[Jack Armstrong]

You would have have mental problems too, if starting as a, like 16 year old. Well, actually she. Disney. She started as like an 8 year old. But starting as a, as a child, your parents trotted you out as a sex object to the world.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

To make gazillions of dollars.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And you've been famous and hounded since you were a child. You'd be pretty weird too.

[Joe Getty]

Speaking of lawbreakers, this is something a former CIA official has been accused of stealing.

[Jack Armstrong]

What if she's a good cook? You think? Britney Spears is a very good cook.

[Joe Getty]

You know, there's some really good, like, frozen lasagnas you could get or, you know, there's a pasta store not far from my place where you can order them to make you a lasagna.

[Jack Armstrong]

There's good frozen lasagna.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, you can order a lasagna that they'll make for you. The way I phrased it made it sound like you go in there and say, make me a lasagna now. No, no, you can order a lasagna made by the.

[Jack Armstrong]

You can order them tonight.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, right away, sir. So, yeah, yeah, a homemade lasagna is really, really good. But there are some really good options prepared wise. That was always Our traditional traditional summer vacation meal. We would drive Gladys. These were good times. Back in the day. We would drive from the Sacramento area up to Sun River, Oregon. It's about nine hours with the minivan full of the kids and we were all very tired and hungry when we got there. And we would pop a lasagna, frozen lasagna that was thawed from the nine hour drive into the oven. We'd all have lasagna to kick off our summer vacation. It was delightful.

[Jack Armstrong]

My lasagna story that I've told many times and I always think that this is a deficit we have in the United States. So I knew a bunch of Italians way back in the day. For some reason, they were all university

[Joe Getty]

like grads in the mob. For a while he was an enforcer. He didn't like having to kill people,

[Jack Armstrong]

but he did it.

[Joe Getty]

It's a job.

[Jack Armstrong]

These were all grad students, like PhDs and that sort of stuff. But they're from Italy and one Christmas I got to hang out with them and they all made lasagna. And it was like eight different dudes made lasagna. And they were all completely different and all amazing. But the fact that every one of these guys learned to make homemade lasagna completely from scratch, roll out the. The pasta, all this sort of stuff. That it was still a tradition in the 2000s.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

That you do that. I mean, we don't do that in the. With our culture. For whatever reason.

[Joe Getty]

I'll bet that was some damn good lasagna. Oh, man.

[Jack Armstrong]

A grown man that knew how to make lasagna from scratch because their moms taught them to and they thought it was an important thing to carry on.

[Joe Getty]

Right? Right. Culture, tradition. Yeah. Love that. Former CIA official accused of stealing. We'll tell you what he stole coming up. It's more than you're guessing. Guess again. Nope. Still not enough. Holy crap. Plus, an AI update. So interesting. Including what the Pope had to say. Awesome.

[Jack Armstrong]

All on the way. If you miss it, get the podcast. Armstrong and Getty on demand.

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[Jack Armstrong]

We got lots of stuff to talk about. We Trump said some amazing things at the cabinet meeting yesterday that we probably should get to. Probably hit that now or three.

[Joe Getty]

So a lot of interesting the AI stuff to talk about, but I wanted to pay off this story first. It's a headline from the Washington post. A former CIA official has been accused of stealing 303 gold bars worth more than $40 million.

[Jack Armstrong]

Whoa.

[Joe Getty]

From the spy agency and stashing them in his Virginia residence, according to a criminal complaint. Here's my favorite part of the story. I mean, obviously, the fact that you could steal 303 gold bars worth more than $40 million, that's enough, certainly. But he's also accused of misleading his superiors about his education, military service, and falsely claiming college degrees he did not have, and $77,000 in military leave pay he wasn't entitled to. If I'm this guy's spouse or partner in crime or just his freaking brain. You have $40 million in gold bars and you're gonna nickel and dime the government over leave pay?

[Jack Armstrong]

Don't take any leave.

[Joe Getty]

Just everything's by the book. Just don't. What, you're gonna slip a ream of paper under your sport coat on the way out too? You've got $40 million in gold bars in your house. Keep a low profile.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it's. It's. It's interesting how many criminals are either stupid or what's driving them is not the result. There's something else. There's some sort of the screw screwing the man or getting away with it and showing that they're smarter than other people or something. Because if all you wanted was money, first of all, don't steal that many. You don't need $40 million. Take it. So I did the math. It's. They're about 130,000 apiece. You know, grab a few that wouldn't be as likely to be noticed. And yeah, don't. Don't try to cheat on your vacation pay and everything else, you moron.

[Joe Getty]

The part of the piece in the Post rather raises a really good question about the efficacy of US Government background checks on this dude, as well as how he was allegedly able to persuade his superiors to entrust him with tens of million dollars, millions of dollars in gold, and large amounts of foreign currency.

[Jack Armstrong]

No kidding. That's the story. So your thorough background check for who should be, you know, in charge of some of the nation's important secrets and gold bars and whatever else doesn't include actually seeing if they went to the university they wrote down on a piece of paper because that requires, like, a phone call to figure out.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, no kidding. So the affidavit by the FBI said Rush, that's this guy's name, made several requests for gold and cash between November and March. Subsequent search of his government office revealed that only a portion of the currency was in storage there. And no gold bars. Whoops. That's incredible. Two million bucks in cash, too. Wow. At some point, don't you disappear, brother.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean, again, he was clearly being driven by some Sort of outsmart and people or something that wasn't just money or you would have disappeared a long time ago. Got gold bars. You just got to get across the border.

[Joe Getty]

Right, Right. So there's a lot of AI stuff to talk about. I've been reading with interest more about Pope Leo's AI manifesto. And it's, it's, it's lovely in a lot of ways on a purely spiritual, individual level. Him talking about the dangers of AI and how it can be an attack on the dignity of man and the dignity of work and having a life of purpose.

[Jack Armstrong]

All of this is true.

[Joe Getty]

Not to mention harmful uses like the manipulation of information, violations of privacy, the fact that AI systems can reflect and reinforce the stereotypes or ideological bias of their designers and developers. So true. All of it's absolutely true. And it's absolutely lovely on an individual basis. But then he and I think it was the Wall Street Journal. Oh, yeah, the Wall Street Journal says, yeah, all that stuff is so true and it's so well said and the rest of it. But then hand in hand with AOC and Bernie Sanders, he wants the government to regulate it all and keep a tight, tight grip on it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, that's ridiculous.

[Joe Getty]

That is ridiculous. You know, stay in your lane, Pope Leo. Root for the socks. Right? And do your Pope and help us find Jesus. The idea that the AOCs and the Bernie Sanders of the world ought to be, you know, in charge of America's AI development as China is going as hard and fast as they can at it, so they can dominate us and subjugate the planet. Yeah, I don't think so, Mr. Pope.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or that the government would necessarily do a good job of regulating this.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my God. They're guaranteed not. Not to. Guaranteed not to. Which if you're saying, well, Joseph, I feel like I'm on a, you know, 50 ton locomotive on ice screaming toward a cliff with all this AI stuff. I share your sentiment, friend.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Found this interesting. The new career odyssey waiting for today's college grads. According to the good folks at is it LinkedIn big study, they estimate that college grads will have. Have twice as many jobs over the course of their careers as those who started out 15 years ago.

[Jack Armstrong]

Garen. Well, 15 years ago. Wow. Because that's only, well, it's only 15 years, but that's still well into the you're not gonna come out of high school and work for the same company the rest of your life thing that we've all recognized.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. And they're talking about a couple things. Number One, people are tending to work longer because they're living longer, but also because of AI and technological change. The fields you exc from age 22 to 27 might not exist when you're 28, which is a hell of a deal living longer.

[Jack Armstrong]

Short aside here, just because I was into this book about the biography about William Shakespeare, but so at the time that Shakespeare was bumping around in England, born in the mid-1500s, the average lifespan was 40 or something like that. But in London, in the poorer areas of London, the average male lived to be 25.

[Joe Getty]

Now I always need to separate infant mortality.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's what I don't understand that. That's where it throws it all off. Yeah, right.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, but because there's a separate statistic, if you survive to one year, then it's a totally different stat for your life expectancy. But anyway, the point remains that, yeah, so yeah, we, I, I feel like

[Jack Armstrong]

that we haven't adjusted the world for the fact that most people live a really long time.

[Joe Getty]

We still haven't in a hundred ways. Yeah, yeah. I mean if you're gonna, if you

[Jack Armstrong]

get out of high school at 18 and you've got to support yourself till 90, which might be close to the life expectancy if you, you know, if you've already made it to 18, that's a lot of money in here.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Especially since we're not having babies and Social Security and Medicare are pyramid schemes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh boy, I'll make it 88, which is almost certainly the life expectancy of an 18 year old. So you got 70 years that you've got to support yourself. That's a long time.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I would say so. And I wish you hadn't brought it up. So let's see, what does it say? Oh, it's also more common to work a job that's disconnected from your undergraduate major. About 42% of recent college grads have jobs that don't require degrees at all, never mind ones in the field that they studied.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wait a second, I'm not going to be able to make my living. In bipoc poetry analysis,

[Joe Getty]

that number is up 4% from 2 and a half years ago. So it is trending upward in a big, big hurry. And you know, my takeaway from this article is yeah, it makes sense that you have people who have more different jobs in more different industries because the pace change. But is it going to be twice as many jobs or three times as many or half as many? Or will they never work again? Or will robots harvest our internal organs? Nobody has Any ide.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I'm hoping that last one. I don't know what a robot's going to do with my pancreas, but it's

[Joe Getty]

on my radar screen.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know how they. I mean, somebody's got to write these articles, but what are they basing these guesses on? Nobody has any idea what industries AI is going to completely destroy. Completely destroy like we'll never exist again in the history of the earth.

[Joe Getty]

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I'd like a security system to keep the AI robots out of my house so they don't come in and harvest my organs.

[Joe Getty]

Hang out of your organs. Yeah. With both hands. So this is something. Using AI for just 10 minutes might make you lazy and dumb, according to a new study.

[Jack Armstrong]

You've said this a bunch of times.

[Joe Getty]

I love that headline.

[Jack Armstrong]

I use AI a lot.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. Well, Michael, you know, the jury is ready, your honor. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I don't understand why this would be. I don't. I don't understand in any way. I see. I understand how God, I did this. So I was in bed all day long yesterday with the rotavirus, which we'll talk more about later, but spent way too much time just scrolling through YouTube shorts. Or whatever. God, that stuff's addictive. Now that making you dumb, I completely understand. I feel like when I finally break myself free from that, I don't like, how do I tie my shoes? I mean, I am dumb, but I don't understand why just using AI would.

[Joe Getty]

Well, according to a new study from researchers at Carnegie Mellon, which sounds like something you'd have at a summer barbecue, MIT, Oxford and UCLA, using chatbots for even just 10 minutes may have shockingly negative impact on people's ability to think and problem solve. Researchers tasked people with solving various problems, including simple fractions and reading comprehension through an online platform that paid them for their work. They conducted three experiments, each involving several hundred people. Some participants were given access to AI assistants capable of solving the problems autonomously. When the AI helper was suddenly taken away, these people were significantly more likely to give up on the problem or flub their answers.

[Jack Armstrong]

The study suggests you take away the AI and I say I give up.

[Joe Getty]

The study suggests that widespread use of AI might boost productivity at the expense of develop developing foundational problem solving skills. Says one of the head professors. The takeaway is not that we should ban AI in education or workplaces. AI can clearly help people perform better in the moment and that can be valuable. But we should be more careful about what kind of help AI provides and when he says essentially and super interesting and we'll post it, I don't think you'll get [e-mail] will post a link link. He says it's fundamentally a cognitive question about persistence, learning and how people respond to difficulty. We wanted to take these broader concerns about long term human AI interaction, study them in a controlled setting. The resulting study seems particularly concerning because a person's willingness to persist with problem solving is crucial to acquiring new skills and also predicts their capacity to learn over time.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, they said it was shocking

[Joe Getty]

the way people, they, they just, they got intellectually very lazy using AI for 10 minutes.

[Jack Armstrong]

This kind of makes sense to me and it's a little bit similar to the. We've talked about how much we all hate. Like if somebody comes up with a, you know, who is the lead guitar player for whatever and you're sitting around and trying to guess it and somebody just googles it and then hits you with the answers. Like no, the fun was us trying to think of it and come up with it or whatever, you just Google it. So now we do the same thing with like everything rather than figure it out somewhat or think about it a little longer. Or I don't know if I can come up with an example. This is a bad example because I don't know if I'd ever figured out on my own but the other day my son's truck wouldn't start. I mentioned this yesterday. I went on AI got a year model a truck. This is happening and it gave me the five things I mean that it is as opposed to me trying to figure it out on my own. If we do that with, on this particular I don't know if I'd have figured out on my own but if we do that with every single problem we have yeah the, the ability to figure things out is going to go away.

[Joe Getty]

You remember that big study that came out a few years ago that doing puzzles to the like puzzles hard enough that you're frustrated. That's when your your brain is improving or, or that's staving off age related cognitive loss. It's that feeling of being frustrated or really having to concentrate on it. That's what you're talking about. I can feel my brain. I can feel my body chemistry change. When you talk about a vexing problem that you're thinking what the heck is it that feeling if we lose that to this study's point the next time you think I'm not going through that. It's like your electric bike conking out. When you become reliant on it you're like got a pedal up hell. Anyway, if you have any thoughts on

[Jack Armstrong]

this would be interested. Text line 415295 KFTC a lot more on the way.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Joe Getty]

Carville says Donald Trump can't be the Antichrist because he's too dumb. Meanwhile, Carville thinks he's Jesus because everyone who sees his face says Jesus.

[Jack Armstrong]

What happened?

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you haven't been following James Carville's Twitter feed, he is off the rails.

[Joe Getty]

Oh yeah, he's. He's unhinged.

[Jack Armstrong]

He's old.

[Joe Getty]

So angry.

[Jack Armstrong]

Very, very old. Couple of things for you. This is a sad one if you're old enough to remember what a big deal Sugar Ray Leonard was as a boxer. He's got some troubles with his son. Sugar Ray Leonard makes shocking claims about son after alleged violent incident at the Legend's home. He's got a 25 year old. He's filed a request for a restraining order against his kid who's become a drug addict and just can't shake it and has been stealing from him and dangerous to himself and others. He's overdosed four times. Sugar Ray Leonard said in a handwritten Declaration to the police in the county. They've had to bring him back to life two times at the hospital. He's stolen extreme amounts of money. Money. And he asked the judge for order that would require his son to stay a hundred yards away from him. What a horrible situation that is.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, too bad.

[Jack Armstrong]

Freaking modern drugs, man. I told the story about somebody I know who's whose son. Really, really successful kid. Started on that gas station heroin thing. It's just like a kind of like a five hour energy sort of deal just to try to stay a little more awake. And it led him toward opioids and just. It's a disaster.

[Joe Getty]

I know.

[Jack Armstrong]

I hate that story. I like this story though. I remember when this first happened and I was shocked that people didn't make a bigger deal out of it. During the protests at the very beginning of all this hullabaloo of the college kids protest in Israel after October 7, et cetera, et cetera. UCLA students blocking Jewish students from getting into their dorms or the library or going to class. And they got away with it. And I thought, how is this even possible? Well, there is a fresh Lawsuit from the U.S. department of justice on how UCLA created a hostile educational environment for a specific protected group of students. And they absolutely did. Mob of thugs who took over the campus in 2024, blocking Jewish students from reaching their classes unless they renounced Zionism. Can you imagine any other group, group, protected group being on the bad end of that sort of thing? And the media basically covering it up by not covering it at all. And the Justice Department overlooking it. It's incredible.

[Joe Getty]

Germany 1936 as the lawsuit says.

[Jack Armstrong]

The fact is that UCLA was indifferent at best to the outrageous behavior of the activists in the anti Israel encampment. Actually, it would be more accurate to say that UCLA back to the encampment, ringing it with steel fencing and protecting it from security personnel. We talked about that at the time. How they put a fence around around it to make sure nobody could bother the students that were keeping Jewish kids from going to class.

[Joe Getty]

And if I'm encouraged by every professor I have. In what sense is the university just indifferent? Please, man.

[Jack Armstrong]

The fact that the university didn't call out these kids, expel them, that every faculty member wasn't giving speeches, that it wasn't on the news every single night, it hardly got any attention anywhere in the country.

[Joe Getty]

Country that illustrates how deep the rot is in our universities. The, the. The permanent omnic cause, the neo Marxism.

[Jack Armstrong]

Unbelievable. Anyway, we'll see where this goes in the Justice Department. And stay on top of it. Trump had a big cabinet meeting yesterday. We'll give you a couple of clips of that that are danged interesting in hour three. Hope you can stick around for it. If you miss it gets Podcast Armstrong and.

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