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Jack Armstrong
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Joe Getty
Armstrong and Getty.
Jack Armstrong
And now here's Armstrong and Getty.
Senator Mark Wayne Mullen
The NBC and CBS polling has the Democrat Party's favorabilities in the 20s. Chuck Schumer is fighting for his job here on the Hill. And they're taking this nothing story and trying to blow it out of proportion. And every time something like this happens, they call on the Republicans to resign, but yet we heard nothing on them calling on a vegetable that was ruling the country for four years to resign.
Joe Getty
Friend of the Armstrong and Getty Show, Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, doing what you got to do for your team. This nothing story, it's not a nothing story. I don't know.
Jack Armstrong
It's not signal scandal. That's right.
Joe Getty
It's not Watergate either, but it's not a nothing story. And if you haven't heard this. So Jeffrey Goldberg, not liking being challenged on the whole were they war plans or not thing has released and was.
Jack Armstrong
It classified or not?
Joe Getty
Yeah, was released a whole bunch more of the signal chat and showing that is absolutely war plans. Now, you know, again, how long this scandal lasts, I don't know.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. And number one, did Mark Wayne Mullen just called the former president a vegetable?
Joe Getty
I believe so, yes. Overstates it somewhat, but close and headed.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, non compos mentis, definitely, but not quite a vegetable. Anyway, where were we? Ah, yes. So last hour we were criticizing the Trump administration's handling of this crisis because they're, they're fighting it and calling Goldberg a crackpot. And there was nothing classified. It wasn't battle plans. And the more that gets released, the more they just, they should have said, hey, it was a mistake, a miscalculation. We've learned from it. It will not be repeated. Thank you to Mr. Goldberg for his restraint in not publishing the particulars to protect our troops. It would have been over, over, over.
Joe Getty
I wonder if some of this is lawyer stuff where we can't admit they were battle plans because then we have committed a crime.
Jack Armstrong
Wow.
Joe Getty
And we're in trouble. I'm looking up at cnn. They've got more of this and says intel chiefs testify as group chat fallout grows. Do you think the group chat fallout is growing still?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, it is today. Just because of those details in the Atlantic. I mean, that, again, I don't think would have come out most of them if they had just confessed to their sins and mistakes and moved on. I mean, it was a great strike, successful for good reason. And, you know, it certainly could have endangered our pilots what they did and how they did it. So really uncool.
Joe Getty
You talk a scandal if somehow, because the one dude was in Russia while was this going on anyway, if they'd have been able to.
Jack Armstrong
Steve Witkoff. Yeah.
Joe Getty
If somehow the Houthis had gotten tipped off and you could connect any dots, that it made a difference. Whoa. Then this would be really a scandal.
Jack Armstrong
Right. I just. If you live long enough, friends, and a lot of you have, you know, sometimes you say, I screwed up, I'm sorry, it's on me. And that makes things go away in a way. Anyway, so we got a little bit of reaction. This from Paolo. It's clear that stupid concerning mistakes were made. Read the Yemen strikes. Why are they trying to spin the particulars of the mistakes? And so unconcerned with making it clear that they're lying to save face. Even if you believe everything they're saying, they still look incompetent. Uh, yeah, I agree, obviously. Um. Uh, we got this from Kelly in Kansas. The Trump administration's already confirmed the signal meeting. Why do we need every detail of who's responsible? The Democrats have never admitted or taken responsibility for, been held to account for anything. Hillary's private email server, tapes in Clinton's sock drawer, Biden's unsecured classified documents, leaders of leakers of the Dobbs opinion, uh, open southern border, et cetera, et cetera. So spare us the fake outrage, Democrats. Well, that's politics. Fake outrage.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
And, Kelly, I want my team to win. As we've said before, I often liken it to sports talk. My quarterback throws three consecutive interceptions. I'm going to say, hey, he needs to be more careful. That doesn't mean I liked Kamala Harris or that I want the Trump administration to fail. They just have to do a better job.
Joe Getty
I don't even know if you need to go that far. Whose team? What? Just let me know. I don't even need to know the team. All those things were bad, including this one.
Jack Armstrong
Right? Agreed. Yeah, you're right. Are they utterly inconsistent hypocrites? Yes, Kelly, yes, they are, my friend. 100%. Sue, moving along, you know one of my favorite Bob Dylan songs, I still haven't seen that dang, dang old Timothy R. Chalamet movie. Dylan movie.
Joe Getty
Oh, you haven't. Oh, you'll like it. And I thought I would hate it.
Jack Armstrong
I swear to God, every time I think of going to a theater, I think, no, they could be showing the Joe Getty story. And I would think people talk and they rattle their. Their rappers and stuff. No, wait till it's on cable.
Joe Getty
Unknown recordings of childhood athletic heroics. They put in a film and you.
Jack Armstrong
Think, nah, nah, why Joe Getty, hero to millions, now in theaters. Wait till it's on Netflix.
Joe Getty
What keeps you out of the theater?
Jack Armstrong
I don't know. Just the whole experience of getting there and driving, parking, waiting and sitting and watching a bunch of ads and then somebody's talking.
Joe Getty
It's funny. You are with that the way I am with flying. What? I hate flying. I hate it. I'm not scared of it or anything like that. Just the whole thing, the driving, the parking, the bag, the security, just all of it. I hate.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I sympathize. Anyway, so where were we? Ah, Bob Dylan. That's right. I'm tempted to tell a story as an aside, but I won't. One of my favorite Bob Dylan songs from his Christian phase. I can't remember what album might have been. Slow Train Coming is. Or maybe it's on Infidels, I don't know. Is man of Peace. And. And the key line in it is, sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.
Joe Getty
Did you know this? Bob Dylan, born a Jew, living a Jew. All of a sudden in the mid-70s, it happened in Albuquerque. I think I was reading about this the other day in a hotel room. He gets struck by the by Jesus and he goes full 100% Christian for quite a few years.
Jack Armstrong
You got to serve somebody. It may be the devil and it may be the Lord, but you're going to have to serve somebody.
Joe Getty
You might be the heavyweight champion of the world, but you got to serve somebody.
Jack Armstrong
That's right. Anyway, sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace. Sometimes Satan comes as a protector of children. And I speak of the teachers unions suing the Trump administration this week for trying to abolish the Education Department. Which is not a surprise because, you know, the Department of Education, as we've been detailing in the recent days, was created at the behest of the teachers unions by Jimmy Carter, who knew at the time it was a bad idea. He said so Democratic congresspeople we've quoted saying this is not a good idea. And the Department of Education has mainly served to advance the agenda of the teachers union for more spending and less accountability through the years. They are perhaps have been formed with honest aims of protecting teachers and making sure teachers are paid adequately and not fired arbitrarily. I get that. But they have absolutely become what Bob Dylan was talking about. They have become a Force for evil. And they would feed children into the wood chipper. Perhaps not literally, but damn close to profit. I speak of Randy Weingarten, not your day to day teachers, many of whom are very, very good people. But the unions have become unspeakably evil. And if you don't know how it works. So among the chief duties of the Education Department is to dole out federal money, which is somewhere around 10% of all education spending funding, rather spending funding. I combine them. 90% is state and local government. But as Ms. McMahon, Linda McMahon, who's running and soon shutting, I hope the Education Department points out, quote, a lot of the funding that goes into the states now goes with a lot of red tape, a lot of strings attached to it. And the Trump administration, and I want you to hear this loud and clear. If you have heard the local teachers union, which represents probably some of your friends and neighbors, say, well, this is gonna yank the money away from the special needs kids and the poor kids. You're gonna have poor legless children starving because they can't get lunch at school, that sort of thing. Here's the evil aim of the Trump administration. They wanna make sure that, quote, the funding continues, but that the states are allowed to spend the money where they need to spend it, instead of where the federal government says they must spend on the federal government, which is dancing to the tune of the teachers unions.
Joe Getty
I hadn't heard this. This, this is.
Jack Armstrong
Well, and you know what's really interesting? This is some great perspective. The bigger problem may be that the federal funding program for disadvantaged students has a near perfect record of being ineffective in improving outcomes. It is absolutely shoving money down a rat hole, whatever that means.
Joe Getty
A What hole?
Jack Armstrong
In 1966. Rat hole. Rat hole in 1966, a year after title one was. I'm not going to give you the history. It's, it's federal funding of education was created a frustrated Robert F. Kennedy. Not the new super tanned buff one with the weird voice, but the old, the, the original. The OG Exclaimed, what happened to the children? Do you mean you spent a billion dollars and you don't know whether they can read or not? 35 years later, Rod Page, you served under George W. Echoed that sentiment. Quote, after spending $125 billion of Title 1 money over 25 years, we have virtually nothing to show for it.
Joe Getty
It's like the war on poverty. Similar situation. He spent gazillions of dollars and haven't moved the needle.
Jack Armstrong
Poverty won. So as guardians of the status quo, quoting the Wall Street Journal, now, teachers unions want the government to force children into the school's unions control and the Education Department is currently constituted helps them advance that agenda. The money continues to flow with little or no accounting, whether it' responsibly, let alone effectively. Before you buy the argument that Mr. Trump's effort to eliminate the Education Department will be detrimental to students, you need to buy the argument that the department's creation had anything to do with improving student outcomes. That's a hard sell. As usual, teachers unions are acting in their own interests while pretending to act in the interests of students and families.
Joe Getty
That's highly frustrating.
Jack Armstrong
Sometimes Satan comes as a teacher's union representative. End of screed.
Joe Getty
So my new favorite band name is Belgrade Sound Cannon. Tell you what, that is coming up among other things. Stay tuned.
Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty.
Joe Getty
These are not savings, they're schemes.
Unknown Speaker
I was just buying toilet paper the other day and it was a five dollar discount if you had the digital coupon. Now, to get that coupon, I had to first download an app for Vons. Then I had to sign up for an account. Then I had to scan the proper code to get the digital coupon. And once I was at the cash register, she had to manipulate my phone to figure out where the barcode was. This is ridiculous.
Joe Getty
Ah, okay. That's what they're talking about. I've been in line behind people. This with it slows down the line. San Diego, the first city to ban these digital only coupons, which that guy there says a scam. I would never, I've never done that. If you're going to make me like, make an account and sign up, I just know I'm getting stolen from.
Jack Armstrong
So San Diego's banning them. Why? You can't ban that as a city. A business can do what it wants if it, if it says, look, you jump off through all these hoops, we'll give you five bucks on your toilet, off your toilet paper.
Joe Getty
If you're willing to let us steal all your personal information, we'll give you five bucks off. But that's a deal you make with all kinds of websites.
Jack Armstrong
I feel like I do like long.
Joe Getty
I feel like I do like one a day where I sign up for another thing with another password and make the trade off of there's benefits to this versus I know what the downsides are.
Jack Armstrong
Sure.
Joe Getty
A bunch of emails from companies I've never heard of.
Jack Armstrong
Now, well, and the nice lady there on Fox 5 in San Diego, her tone of voice implied that, well, every American deserves that $5 off and I. I demand the right to not have to do that stuff for my $5 off. No, it's a quid pro quo. They want access to you to promote their grocery store. And in return for you giving them. That means they're giving you five bucks off on your toilet paper. That's the. Oh, man. Meddlesome America now. Now we're gonna outlaw that because I don't like it. Then we're gonna outlaw that because I don't like it. Yeah.
Joe Getty
Okay, I got a couple of stories for you that don't need a whole bunch of time each. Serbian sound cannons. I like the sound of that better than Belgrade. Belgrade in Serbia. Serbian sounds.
Jack Armstrong
Belgrade. But whatever.
Joe Getty
Okay, Belgrade. What happened here?
Jack Armstrong
Vaguely European. It's got sound in it. Canon implies power, so we won't get.
Joe Getty
Into the politics of Serbia. But they got problem. The president, Big protests. They think he's corrupt, trying to drive him out of office. They've had huge, just absolutely huge demonstrations. Well, thousands and thousands were gathered in Belgrade the other day to protest the president. Then all of a sudden, something. I've seen the video, something caused the crowd to, like, part and run away, and you can't really hear anything or seeing anything. And there are all kinds of reports that the government used one of those weird sound wave things that maybe you've seen demonstrated online. 60 Minutes had it years ago where they showed it.
Jack Armstrong
Like the Havana syndrome thing.
Joe Getty
No, I don't think so. It's. I remember when 60 Minutes demonstrated. It's like a. It's like a wave of sound that was heat, but it's pressure. Yeah, it's just. It's a sound. Might be the wrong way to describe it. You hear something, but that's not what makes you run away. You hear loud noises all the time, don't make you run.
Jack Armstrong
And this isn't even loud energy. It's some sort of energy that makes you freak out and run away.
Joe Getty
This woman had never heard anything quite so alarming and disturbing in a protest as a sound that broke a commemorative summoned of silence during a huge anti government rally in Serbia's capital, Belgrade. It was quiet and peaceful. And then we heard something we could not see, like a sound rolling toward us. People started rushing for safety toward the pavement, feeling that something was moving toward us down the street.
Jack Armstrong
Wow.
Joe Getty
So that's not just a sound. The perception that something's moving toward you down the street wouldn't just be a sound. I mean, I've heard a lot of really, really loud sounds in my life.
Jack Armstrong
And you instinctively Find it menacing.
Joe Getty
Hundreds of others offered similar accounts, triggering accusations that the police, military or security services or somebody used an acoustic crowd control weapon to target peaceful protesters. These weapons are illegal in Serbia and most places. Well, they're illegal until you decide you need to use them. We'll probably use them on the battlefield, you know, against the Chinese someday. And then some weapon against us that we've never heard of anyway. They can trigger sharp ear pain, disorientation, eardrum ruptures, even irreversible hearing damage.
Jack Armstrong
Damage. Yikes.
Joe Getty
And the president is denying it, saying if I use something like that, I'd be driven out of office immediately. Okay, well, that's what they're trying to do is drive you out of office.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, right. Say the protesters.
Joe Getty
I find this interesting. Serbia's police and government deny possessing the u. S. Made long range acoustic device lrad when presented with photo. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So they might have had this thing that we invented and then one other.
Jack Armstrong
Between the drones and this and the laser beams and microwaves.
Joe Getty
Oh, the next war is going to be. You'll constantly. The next big war, you'll constantly be reading about weapons you didn't even know existed. How much time I got, Michael? I wanted to jam this in. Okay, Got another unpleasant story. Probably doesn't need much time. Former NFL running back just busted in a dog fighting ring thing. 190 pit bulls seized. It's the biggest single bust of dog fighting in American history against one guy. Horrifying details that I won't get into. But what is it with NFL players and dog fighting?
Jack Armstrong
What's. Who's the dude?
Joe Getty
I'd never heard of him. He played six years in the NFL with a bunch of different teams. Lashawn Johnson.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, yeah. Wow. Brutal.
Joe Getty
I'd say Armstrong and Gettysburg tempted to get sidetracked by our last story that we did right before the commercial break. Just go ahead, just say this. Underappreciated cultural differences among different segments of society. They busted this dog fighting ring. Former NFL player, he had 190 dogs. Biggest single dog fighting bust in U.S. history. But just, I mean, how many people had to be involved in the running of that? And then how many people are involved to, to, to make it worthwhile to have 190 dogs? I mean, there's got to be thousands and thousands and thousands of people that are participating and attending and betting on for that to exist.
Jack Armstrong
Has to be quite a few people anyway. I don't know that it needs to be that many, but.
Joe Getty
Well, certainly hundreds and hundreds it has to be.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
Or it just wouldn't be beneficial. And who do you know that wouldn't just be absolutely pukingly horrified if they had to watch something like that, let alone enthusiastically participate?
Jack Armstrong
Right.
Joe Getty
I mean, you talk about a cultural difference. I know. I know way more people that would cry hearing this story than I've ever known that would enjoy watching it. Right?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Yeah. One of the most useful and simple explanation of culture. Explanations of culture I've ever come across. Who the heck wrote this? That'll name will pop into my head. Culture is how we do things around here. It's as simple and complicated as that. What's a husband's relationship with his wife in our culture? What's our relationship with a police officer? What's our relationship with the government? How do we treat each other when we pass a stranger? How about a friend? How does one religious denomination interact with the other? That's all culture. Do you pet your dog and you love dogs and you, like, donate to rescue operations or do you have animals fight each other to the death for your entertainment and gambling?
Joe Getty
I think it's hilarious and fun.
Jack Armstrong
Cultural difference.
Joe Getty
I gotta believe. I don't know this, but I would assume that the crowd that can watch dog fights is also more okay with like domestic violence and violence in general. Shooting on kids or whatever. I gotta be. Doesn't it?
Jack Armstrong
Sure. Yeah. I think so.
Joe Getty
Oh, that's horrible. Anyway.
Jack Armstrong
There are very few cultures around the world that have horrifyingly violent entertainment of this sort that aren't more violent just in general.
Joe Getty
Right.
Jack Armstrong
Anyway, speaking of violence and horror, I know what you're thinking. Same thing I've been thinking forever. When are we going to get like a horror movie version of Mickey Mouse? Okay. Nobody's ever thought that but Michael. I guess. Apparently there's something like that out these days.
Unknown Speaker
Set sail for an adventure like no other. Meet Steamboat Willie. He's wacky, he's wicked, and he's whistling his way into your heart.
Jack Armstrong
Literally. Home.
Unknown Speaker
All aboard the Staten island ferry.
Jack Armstrong
Let's get this jungle cruise going.
Joe Getty
They're all gonna die.
Unknown Speaker
When they're drunk. Dream voyage turns into a nightmare. This is no fairy tale.
Jack Armstrong
It's the happiest place on earth.
Unknown Speaker
Screamboat.
Joe Getty
Screamboat. So if you're not familiar, Mickey Mouse originally was Steamboat Willie 1928. I just looked it up almost a hundred years ago. The first Disney cartoon with Mickey Mouse and they're calling it Screamboat Michael.
Jack Armstrong
Is that a parody?
Joe Getty
Because the voiceover doesn't fit with, like an actual Attempt to.
Jack Armstrong
And they're gonna get sued for using Steamboat Willie in their advertisement.
Joe Getty
It might be public domain at this point. It's almost 100 years old.
Unknown Speaker
It's not a parody. And they're calling him Screamboat Willie.
Jack Armstrong
Parody is fair use. Yeah.
Joe Getty
Have you ever seen the stuff that becomes at the first of the year? I always think this list is interesting stuff that becomes public domain. And it's different limits for different things, but like songs, books, poems, videos. That's the rules we have in the United States. After a certain amount of time, it's just out there and anybody can use it for whatever they want to use it for. It's an interesting idea. Well, some people are against it, some people are for it.
Unknown Speaker
And the director of this is actually a pretty great horror director. He did the Terrifier series, which if you're a horror fan, you could have.
Jack Armstrong
Made that up as far as I'm concerned. I don't.
Unknown Speaker
The horror fans know I'm not making it up. It's a great, It's a, it's a series of horror movies and they're fantastic.
Joe Getty
Okay.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. You could bond with my son. He's crazy into that sort of stuff. Encyclopedia knowledge. He writes like serious treatises on those series and what they mean and why they're effective and crazy. Anyway, so moving along, at least somewhat thought this was interesting. Joanna Stern writes a popular tech column and her headline is I quit Google search for AI and I'm not going back. Oh, wow. Wow.
Joe Getty
I love this.
Jack Armstrong
And obviously she goes into how ads and search optimized junk is made a mess of Google.
Joe Getty
Yeah, it's amazing. Like last night I was, I. I googled a particular car dealer, like the name of it. And I get eight other options first, Right?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
That's ridiculous. That's not what Google used to be.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. And she, she goes into, you know, the history of it and how it got kind of gummed up in the rest of it. I think we're all fairly familiar with that. She says with AI chatbots, it's really like having that personal search. Butler, ChatGPT, Microsoft Copilot and Perplexity have real time web access generating responses with citations to external websites. Last week, Anthropic's Claude joined the club and Google's testing an AI mode built into search.
Joe Getty
So I need a smart person. Maybe I'll ask my sitter, house sitter. They're good with tech. I need somebody to walk through how I get this on my phone so I can use it. I absolutely would Use this instead of Google.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, that's. It's actually fairly easy because they have apps in the App Store. But when is AI better? She says. I try to list all the places AI search beats old school search. Shopping people, recipes, how tos, movie recommendations, places to stream a recommended movie. The rundown was longer than a CVS receipt, she said. That's long.
Joe Getty
Oh, like for instance, where, where who's streaming this movie? Google's only going to give you the places that paid them to be at the top of the list. There might be other places that are cheaper or free. Yeah, sure, sure. It doesn't surprise us.
Jack Armstrong
Is AI search the death of the blue links? I'd say it's more a makeover than funeral, she writes. Yes, these bots spare us from the click through marathons, but if they are good at grabbing useful information from the web, you'll get links you actually want to click for. I asked all of the chat bots the same crucial parenting question. What 3D printer under $500 should I buy my 7 year old? And the results were very, very useful without a bunch of gummed up sales crap.
Joe Getty
Right?
Jack Armstrong
Old school Google. Google search was exactly what you'd expect. Sponsored links promoted products Links to Best buy Amazon YouTube videos took several clicks to even get a baseline of credible options. If you think I'm picking on Google, Bing was just as bad.
Joe Getty
Well, this is the free market at work. This is similar to the conversation we had last hour about the whole coupon thing that you were ranting and raving about. This is fine. You know, Google did that. They went too far. They, they, they, they have practically killed the golden goose, I think. And it's going to drive a lot of us to try something else. And then they'll probably have to back off their sponsorships if they want to keep people around.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, I needed to read a sentence and make a confession for some searches, like when is the first day of spring? Or the airtime of the Severance finale. The bot's first answer is all I need. I was griping, I think it was yesterday, about how I was watching Severance and it seemed to have a story arc that might continue forever. Well, I could have just googled it or AIED it or something and realized that, oh no, no, the season, the end of season two is the end of the series and the finale is going to air tomorrow.
Joe Getty
Oh, okay.
Jack Armstrong
It was decisive. It was wild, satisfying, great sci fi ish twist. No spoilers here, but I apologize for questioning the creative geniuses behind the scenes.
Joe Getty
They'Re in a booth at a pizza place and it just goes black. And a Journey song starts.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, you saw it. Anyway, so that's up with AI. When is Google better? And she writes, here's an easier list to drop. What Google search is still good for. For starters, links to any webpage you already know exists. Adam Scott's IMDb page. I don't know who Adam Scott is. Bob from accounting's LinkedIn, a story you vaguely remember calling Bluey a juggernaut. Google still your go to. And while AI Tools can recommend local restaurants and shopping, Google still excels at showing you accurate maps, addresses and hours. Interesting.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Huh? I do think Google is used to this as it comes on.
Joe Getty
Google pushed it too far and they're going to have to pair it back if they don't want to lose everybody to. To something else.
Jack Armstrong
Interestingly and smartly, Google has its own AI. Yeah. So they get. Either way, they get you.
Joe Getty
Theoretically, Amazon has gone too far too. But there's no, there's no competition for Amazon, which is what some people are arguing. It's a monopoly or whatever. I don't think so. But, but man, you search on some specific thing, you get 19 other choices.
Jack Armstrong
First or your first 27 links are sponsored and you know, okay, there it is. For less per item with free shipping four pages in. Yeah, it's gotten a little obnoxious. Thanks, Jeff. Jeff.
Joe Getty
Nobody had comments on the fact that the world's. First of all, how many times do I ever hear Elon Musk's name without world's richest man attached to it in the news? No, I don't, and talked about it yesterday. Elon Musk, the world's richest man, thinks we need to cut back Social Security checks. It's either a good idea or not. His personal wealth has nothing to do with it. He ought to give away a couple hundred billion dollars. So he's the world's second richest man. Because if you're the world's second richest man, you can do whatever the hell you want. Bezos seems to care mostly about looking cool and yachts and hot chicks and stuff like that. He gets knocked never for being the world's second richest man.
Jack Armstrong
Right, Right. He's tried to reform the Washington Post at least a little bit, which is going to fail, but I appreciate the effort. Oh, speaking of which, we got an email from a guy the other day. I wish I could give him credit. I don't remember the name, but pointing out that, all right, you hear 20 times a day, Elon Musk is the world's richest man. But MBS in Saudi Arabia has multiples of Elon's money. Multiples. Vladimir Putin is believed to be, if not the richest man on earth, among the richest men on Earth. So Elon is the richest guy whose income and wealth is disclosed earned.
Joe Getty
That's what I go with. And that's why I will continue to call him the world's richest man. While that is technically true and interesting, I'm giving no credit to people who are thugs and thieves.
Jack Armstrong
All right. The world's most financially successful man would be one way to put it.
Joe Getty
And he is. I think he'd have to give away, like, I haven't looked recently. I'll look it up. But, like, $300 billion to drop to second place. He is really got a lot of money. He'll. He's likely. He's only 52 or something. He's likely to become the first trillionaire. Wait till he hits a trillion. You know how people like round numbers. Oh, that'll really be a big deal then. He's super evil.
Jack Armstrong
A trillionaire is trying to cut your government services.
Joe Getty
Right. I was listening to MSNBC this morning. They said, do you think Elon Musk, the world's richest man, has any idea what it's like for a grandmother's $300 Social Security check to not arrive? All right, you're right. Unless I'm also poor, I can't imagine it'd be impossible.
Jack Armstrong
Right.
Joe Getty
We'll finish. No, we're not done yet. I almost thought we were done. How do you like that? Oh, that hurts. It's like when you wake up and you think it's Saturday and it turns out it's Tuesday. Oh, no more on the way.
Jack Armstrong
Stay here. Armstrong and Getty.
Unknown Speaker
So the task force is going to bring together all of the cases in attacks against Tesla. Facilities, vehicles, charging stations across the country. So that'll be FBI agents working with ATF agents. Now, ATF has the premier lab when it comes to solving arson cases in the country, along with intelligence analysts to develop a unified case intake system so that they can track the cases and use those intelligence analysts and investigators to find out, is there a connection between the attacks, the attackers, or any particular network. And to make sure that they are gathering evidence and driving towards prosecutions.
Joe Getty
You can't claim cnn, for instance, isn't taking the attacks on Tesla seriously because they've been going pretty big on it. It's domestic terrorism, and it should get a lot of attention. And we let this slide. You know the other side will do it or other causes and it'll just grow and grow and roll and it'll be happening all the time.
Jack Armstrong
Absolutely undeniable. Yep.
Joe Getty
This stat yesterday bothered me. Consumer confidence index was down 7.2 points. Biggest drop in three years, so. Or go back to 21. So that's four years middle of the pandemic. So.
Jack Armstrong
Didn't like seeing that several months in a row too. Yeah.
Joe Getty
What's that based on? The whole tariff thing.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. And people have maxed out credit cards, defaults are on the rise. They're just savings are at a low since, you know, several years ago. There are just a number of not so great indicators.
Joe Getty
Colorado, their state House has agreed to remove the, quote, bad painting of Trump after he complained about it. I don't know what I think about this painting.
Jack Armstrong
Painting deliberately painted to make him look fatter. It's gotta be. He looks like a fat little baby.
Joe Getty
But was that, was that the person's best effort or you think it was deliberate? First of all, I'm amazed that anybody can ever sketch or paint someone and make it look enough like them that you would know it was them. I mean, that's just stunning to me. Stunning. But if you're walking through that hall of the Presidents, there's not one person that would say, who's that? You know, it's Donald Trump. It's just an odd painting of him. And I just think of lots of paintings I've seen or that MLK memorial they've got in Washington D.C. that doesn't look.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, is that who that is?
Joe Getty
It doesn't look anything like mlk that. If you told me who's this? I wouldn't have been able to guess.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
So. And that wasn't on purpose to make MLK look bad. It just was an artist rendering that didn't go well.
Jack Armstrong
Right.
Joe Getty
Anyway, I don't think Trump's out of line to say, can I get one that's not quite so round headed?
Jack Armstrong
He really looks like a fat toddler Trump. It reminds me of that big Trump in a diaper that was popular in Europe there for a while.
Joe Getty
Oh, right, a big balloon.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Hey, can I throw in one more quick note on the AI thing we were talking about a minute or two ago? The journalist points out that while I'm in favor of shifting the stale search paradigm, I do have AI reservations. These systems hoover up answers from the Internet, but rarely push you to the original source. Your trusted sources of information, like her publication, the Wall Street Journal, stand to lose visibility, subscribers and traffic, if too many online platforms suffer, will end up losing the open web in exchange for one big answer machine with zero citations or accountability. It's an interesting way to look at it.
Joe Getty
Yeah, it is. And you said you're going to sign up for some AI and start dabbling. I think that. Great. I've been promising to do it, but I haven't. I've let the show down. I haven't done it yet.
Jack Armstrong
Yes, again, mostly for search purposes. I don't. I love the idea of like playing around with image creation or video creation with the prompts or music creation I suppose. But honestly I should at least spend a day on it or something. I would rather make real music or watch the birds flying back and forth or. Or whatever. I don't know. Yeah, I don't need writing do that.
Joe Getty
But I would love to get into spend more time with various AI chat bots, you know, asking IT questions about historical facts or whatever and just seeing kind of answers you get. I'm pretty interested in that and I certainly read about it a lot. Came across this yesterday. I'm going to throw it out. One of those sayings you see every now and then. I really liked this. If you're worried about the cost of going for it, you should see the price of staying exactly where you are. I like it. I thought that was fantastic.
Jack Armstrong
Speaking of fantastic, more information to come during our four. Wait. What? You don't get our four? You've got to go somewhere.
Joe Getty
That's fine.
Jack Armstrong
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Armstrong & Getty On Demand - Episode: "A What Hole?" Summary
Release Date: March 26, 2025
Host: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty
Podcast: The official On-Demand podcast of The Armstrong & Getty Show! Accept no substitutes!
The episode opens with a discussion on a significant political scandal involving the Democratic Party's favorability ratings plummeting into the 20s, as highlighted by Senator Mark Wayne Mullen. He criticizes media outlets like NBC and CBS for amplifying "nothing stories" while selectively calling on Republicans to resign without similar demands for Democrats.
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty delve into the controversy surrounding the release of the "signal chat," which revealed apparent war plans.
The hosts debate the longevity and impact of the scandal, questioning whether proper accountability is being addressed.
Listener reactions highlight perceived hypocrisy within Democratic circles, with comparisons to past scandals involving Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden.
Armstrong and Getty shift focus to the Trump administration's efforts to abolish the Department of Education, critiquing the influence of teachers unions.
They argue that the Department of Education, established under Jimmy Carter, primarily serves the interests of teachers unions by facilitating increased spending and reducing accountability. The hosts assert that federal funding for education has been largely ineffective.
The discussion condemns the lack of accountability and the perpetuation of ineffective educational policies.
The conversation transitions to international news about protests in Belgrade, Serbia, where authorities allegedly used acoustic crowd control weapons to disperse demonstrators.
The hosts express skepticism about the effectiveness and legality of such weapons, drawing parallels to previous instances like the Havana syndrome.
They emphasize the disturbing nature of these tactics and the potential for misuse in future conflicts.
A significant portion of the episode covers the largest dog fighting bust in American history, involving former NFL running back Lashawn Johnson, who was apprehended with 190 pit bulls.
The hosts discuss the cultural implications and the broader network likely involved in such illegal activities, questioning the societal acceptance of such violence.
They condemn the cruelty involved and highlight the necessary cultural shifts needed to eradicate such practices.
A substantial segment is dedicated to the evolving landscape of search engines, particularly the integration of AI technologies.
Joanna Stern's article, "I quit Google search for AI and I'm not going back," serves as a focal point for the discussion.
The hosts compare traditional search methods to AI-driven search tools like ChatGPT, Microsoft Copilot, and Perplexity, noting the advantages in personalization and efficiency.
They argue that AI search could render traditional "blue links" obsolete, potentially reshaping how information is accessed and consumed.
The discussion also touches on the implications for trusted sources like the Wall Street Journal, emphasizing concerns about accountability and citation in AI-generated responses.
The hosts critique the portrayal of Elon Musk as the world's richest man, pointing out that other figures like MBS of Saudi Arabia and Vladimir Putin might have greater undisclosed wealth.
They discuss the disconnect between public perception and actual wealth distribution, highlighting the ethical considerations of such vast fortunes.
A brief analysis of the Consumer Confidence Index reveals a significant drop of 7.2 points, marking the largest decline in three years.
Jack Armstrong attributes this decline to factors like tariffs, increased credit card debt, rising defaults, and depleted savings, painting a grim economic outlook.
The episode features a discussion on a contentious painting of Donald Trump displayed in Colorado's state house, which critics argue depicts him with exaggerated, unflattering features.
Joe Getty compares it to other problematic artistic representations, such as the MLK memorial in Washington D.C., questioning the accuracy and intent behind such portrayals.
They debate whether such depictions are artistic failures or intentional satirical statements, ultimately supporting Trump's request for a less caricatured image.
Wrapping up the AI discussion, Jack Armstrong emphasizes the need for balance between traditional search engines and emerging AI technologies to preserve the integrity of information sources.
Joe Getty agrees, noting personal interest in exploring AI chatbots for more efficient information retrieval.
The hosts encourage listeners to remain informed about technological advancements while advocating for accountability and transparency in information dissemination.
Senator Mark Wayne Mullen [00:23]: "The NBC and CBS polling has the Democrat Party's favorabilities in the 20s..."
Joe Getty [01:00]: "Jeffrey Goldberg... was released a whole bunch more of the signal chat and showing that is absolutely war plans."
Jack Armstrong [02:11]: "I don't think would have come out most of them if they had just confessed to their sins and mistakes and moved on."
Joanna Stern [22:00]: "She's listing all the places AI search beats old school search..."
Joe Getty [25:00]: "Google pushed it too far and they're going to have to pair it back if they don't want to lose everybody to something else."
Joe Getty [28:30]: "MBS in Saudi Arabia has multiples of Elon's money. Multiples. Vladimir Putin is believed to be, if not the richest man on earth, among the richest men on Earth."
Joe Getty [31:08]: "The Consumer Confidence Index was down 7.2 points. Biggest drop in three years."
Jack Armstrong [32:00]: "He looks like a fat little baby."
Jack Armstrong [34:31]: "I think it's an interesting way to look at it."
In "A What Hole?", Armstrong and Getty navigate a diverse array of topics, from political scandals and educational policy critiques to the ethical implications of AI in search engines and the dark underbelly of illegal dog fighting rings. Their candid discussions are interspersed with humor and personal anecdotes, providing listeners with a comprehensive overview of current events and societal issues. Notably, their critique of emerging technologies and political hypocrisy invites listeners to reflect critically on the information landscape and governance structures shaping contemporary America.