A Zoo Of Racism & Misogyny

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand: "A Zoo Of Racism & Misogyny"

Date: March 31, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Producer/Contributor: Michael
Podcast Provider: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on current American political controversies and cultural clashes, with a strong focus on the rhetoric and perceptions surrounding "red states" (conservative areas) and a pointed critique of Jennifer Siebel Newsom’s recent comments about her family’s road trip through the South. The hosts also cover updates on the situation in Iran, the Supreme Court conversion therapy decision, pop culture stories (such as the massive Kit Kat heist), and commentary on newsmakers in sports and entertainment.

The tone is irreverent, skeptical, and sometimes biting, with Armstrong and Getty critiquing mainstream media narratives and what they see as elite coastal condescension towards much of America.

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Major Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Escalation in Iran: Troop Movements and Trump’s Rhetoric

Timestamps: 04:06–10:27

• Iran Tensions:
  The hosts discuss the imminent possibility of American troops being deployed on Iranian soil amid escalating military movements.

  • Joe’s wager: “If I had to bet money, I’d certainly bet we’re going to have troops on Iranian soil fighting within a week.” (05:06)
  • Michael on military build-up: “When he sent that kind of armament somewhere, he uses it.” (05:50)

• Trump’s Blunt Message:
  Trump had issued a statement addressing America’s allies:

  “You’ll have to start learning how to fight for yourself. The USA won’t be there to help you anymore, just like you weren’t there for us. Iran has been essentially decimated. The hard part is done. Go get your own oil.”
  (Read aloud by Joe – 05:55)

• Host Reactions:
  Michael praises Trump's candor for dispensing with diplomatic euphemisms, urging allies to “get off your ass.” (06:37)

• War & Economy:
  Joe challenges the argument of opposing military action based solely on economic downturn:

  "You can’t decide to take on Iran based on what it’s going to do to people’s 401(k)s briefly...what kind of argument is that?" (07:15)

• Historical Uncertainty:
  They reflect on how history rarely provides contemporaneous clarity:

  “There is hardly a single historical decision of any significance that was easy at the time or clear at the time.” (Michael, 10:27)

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2. Supreme Court Overturns Conversion Therapy Ban

Timestamps: 11:13–13:07

• Decision Recap:
  The Supreme Court has overturned Colorado’s ban on so-called conversion therapy, citing First Amendment rights.

  • Michael calls this “a great victory for reasonableness.” (11:33)

• Deep Dive:
  Michael expresses distaste for conflating compassionate gender counseling with “conversion therapy.” He asserts that responsible therapy is being tarred by activists who want only one narrative available to minors questioning their identity:

  “They, the activists, consider that quote ‘conversion therapy’—just the decent, responsible, compassionate counseling of confused children. So yeah, yeah, we’ve got to completely end any of those bans.” (12:45)

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3. Kit Kat Heist & Easter Candy Philosophy

Timestamps: 16:36–21:03

• The Candy Caper:
  Nestlé lost a truckload of 414,000 racing car-shaped Kit Kat bars en route to Poland, right before Easter.
  Joe finds the novelty shape hilarious: “They weren’t even the regular Kit Kat bars. They were shaped like race cars.” (17:18)

• Social Media Spirals:
  Michael highlights how Nestlé turned the theft into a viral social moment, being joined by brands like Domino’s Pizza and Ryanair.
  Joe: “They’ve easily surpassed the value of that shipment in free advertising.” (20:02)

• Easter Candy Debate:
  There’s a playful debate over which candies “count” for Easter baskets. Michael jokes about being a “jellybeanitarian,” while Katie (presumably a staff member/producer) opines Kit Kats don’t fit in plastic eggs but might fit in baskets. (18:11–18:39)

  Michael: "Because the egg-laying rabbit loves candy for Jesus." (18:41) Joe: "You can’t make pagans." (18:49) Michael (mockingly): "Put on your goat pants and worship Sat—burn incense in the woods." (18:56)

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4. Jaden Ivey, Free Speech & NBA Double Standards

Timestamps: 21:12–24:11

• Jaden Ivey’s Firing:
  The NBA player was reportedly dropped from his team for religious social media posts and expressing anti-trans views.
  Joe notes the contrast: “The anti-American stuff in the NBA is perfectly okay…But anti-mutilating young children is not.” (23:26)

• Steve Kerr’s Comments:
  Michael points out that controversial anti-police rhetoric from figures like Kerr is tolerated, while social conservatism is not.

• Viral Moment:
  Joe finds it odd that Ivey declared “I was a fornicator…and a pornography addict” loudly at an airport, bemusing innocent bystanders. (23:51)

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5. Jennifer Siebel Newsom’s “Red State” Road Trip & Elite Prejudice (Main Segment)

Timestamps: 29:45–42:31 (core segment: 30:59–41:21)

Setup:

• Jennifer Siebel Newsom, wife of California Governor Gavin Newsom, was recently interviewed by Jen Psaki. She described taking her children on a tour of Southern “red states” to see “misogyny, sexism, and racism” up close.

Direct Quotes/Clips:

• Jennifer Siebel Newsom:

  “…so they themselves can be the change they wish to see in the world and recognize that, you know, we have work to do and that we have healing to do … to stand up and speak out when they see pain and suffering and bullying and racism and misogyny around them. And you want them to see it so that they know. I do. I’m a truth seeker. They need to know the truth.” (32:21, 39:01)

Hosts’ Reaction:

• Armstrong & Getty’s Take:

  • Jack Armstrong:

    “She took her kids on a tour of the red states so they could see the misogyny, sexism, and racism for themselves.” (32:21)
    “That makes Hillary’s basket of deplorables seem like nothing.” (32:30)
    “The only reason you would ever take your kids to a red state is so they can see with their own eyes misogyny, racism, bigotry, and sexism.” (33:03)

  • Michael (about Newsom's style):

    “To describe her as pretentious would be like calling Shohei Ohtani a good ballplayer…the word doesn’t come close.” (32:53)
    “She is her own biggest fan by far…reeks of people need to hear what I think about this.” (37:21, 37:48)

  • Satirical Bits:

    “Excuse me, can you point me toward the slave market?” (34:39)
    "Keep your windows rolled up, kids." (40:12)

  • Comparing to “deplorables:”

    “That’s like our red states are zoos of awfulness that you should take your kids to to learn how terrible everything is.” (39:47)

• Political Fallout:
  The hosts suggest this attitude is alienating to millions, and a real liability if Newsom should run for president, especially among moderate voters in places like Ohio.

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6. Other Notable Topics & Anecdotes

Kid Rock & Apache Helicopters

Timestamps: 27:41–28:48

• U.S. Army is investigating a video of military helicopters flying over Kid Rock’s property. The hosts dismiss criticism as partisan pearl-clutching.

Socialism in Argentina

Timestamps: 28:48–29:46

• Joe and Michael briefly praise Argentina’s libertarian President Javier Milei for reversing socialism and rescuing his country's economy.

Knitting as Gen-Z Trend

Timestamps: 46:22–47:44

• Hosts joke about young people turning to knitting to spend less time on their phones, then acknowledge its neurological and therapeutic benefits.

Tiger Woods’ Painkiller Troubles

Timestamps: 47:44–49:21

• Commentary on Tiger Woods’ opioid struggles, with both empathy and dark humor:

  “He’s the classic guy who’s in danger of becoming a pill addict...Boy, is he a candidate to not hit 60 years old.” (48:12, 49:18)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Media & Political Rhetoric:
  • Michael:

    “Trump has just stripped away the vague and flowery diplomatic language…told them, look, you gotta get off your ass. We’re done doing all the work for you.” (06:37)

• On Modern Arguments:
  • Michael:

    “It’s a TikTok world argument…everybody acts as if, if they make one salient point, say, against the war…just sit there as if they proved their case…can we at least spend, I don’t know, 45 seconds weighing the various pros and cons?” (08:14)

• On Jennifer Newsom:
  • Michael:

    “That whole thing, wasn’t that something? I feel like I’m covered in slime after listening to that.” (35:30)

  • Joe:

    “If you lean progressive, would you hear that and just like, oh, fill your soul with happiness, because just, it made my skin crawl on so many different levels.” (37:56)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Iran & Trump/War Commentary: 04:06–10:27
• Supreme Court Conversion Therapy Ruling: 11:13–13:07
• Kit Kat Heist and Easter Candy: 16:36–21:03
• Jaden Ivey/NBA Double Standards: 21:12–24:11
• Jennifer Siebel Newsom’s “Red State” Road Trip: 29:45–42:31

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Summary Assessment

This episode delivers the Armstrong and Getty brand of sharp satire and skepticism, especially aimed at progressive elite attitudes, as epitomized by Jennifer Siebel Newsom’s tour for “truth.” War coverage is laced with bleak humor and historical context, and side stories about candy, NBA controversies, and celebrity struggles keep things lively and unpredictable. The conversations are energetic and unapologetically partisan in tone, with moments oscillating between sardonic wit and genuine concern for the state of American culture and polity.

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[Michael]

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[Joe]

Not a question I'm going to answer or, or the President has said definitively

[Michael]

we have our own goals and guidance

[Joe]

and things were military objectives that we're moving toward and things that we look at. And as he's articulated, you know, he said four to six weeks, six to eight weeks, three.

[Michael]

It could be any, any particular number,

[Joe]

but we would never reveal precisely what

[Michael]

it is because our goal is to

[Joe]

finish those objectives and we're well on our way. And the chairman and I look at

[Michael]

this every single day.

[Joe]

It will be the President's determination and the President's determination alone when those objectives are complete and when it serves the interest of the American people to cut that deal. So we're going to be landing troops in Iran? That seems to be guaranteed to me. Here's Iran's.

[Michael]

As hundreds of special operations forces arrived in the region, the blunt warning from Iran. Any American troops invading would be set on fire. Yeah.

[Joe]

Wow.

[Michael]

In particular, okay, well, where are you?

[Joe]

If I had to bet money, I'd certainly bet we're going to have troops on Iranian soil fighting Within a week

[Michael]

might be islands as opposed to the mainland. But, yeah, I would agree. It's funny, I've been looking at all sorts of coverage of what Trump said. I mean, for instance, the big headline everywhere is Trump tells aides he's willing to end war without reopening Hormuz. And you just have to get used to the fact that Trump is clouding the water to keep his adversaries off kilter, off balance. And so I have no idea what to make of the things that are being said, but if you look at the things that are being done, the troops and equipment that are being moved into place. Yeah, I suspect that is not a bluff so far.

[Joe]

When he sent that kind of armament somewhere, he uses it.

[Michael]

Right.

[Joe]

We probably hit you with this truth that he put out today, just not too long ago, actually, Trump said this. All those countries that can't get jet fuel because of the Strait of Hormuz, like the United Kingdom, which refused to get involved in the decapitation of Iran. I have a suggestion for you. Number one, buy from the us we have plenty. And number two, build up some delayed courage. Go to the straight and just take it. You'll have to start learning how to fight for yourself. The USA won't be there to help you anymore, just like you weren't there for us. Iran has been essentially decimated. The hard part is done. Go get your own oil. President Donald J. Trump,

[Michael]

as usual, we're gonna approach this a little differently than the mainstream media. At least I am, or even the Trump's always right media. There were parts of that that I thought were unnecessary and not useful. On the other hand, Trump has just stripped away the vague and flowery diplomatic language that's usually used in these things and told them, look, you gotta get off your ass. We're done. We're done doing all the work for you. This oil is more important to you than it is to us now, world economy wise, I understand it's more complicated, but you got to take a role. I love him saying that.

[Joe]

I understand why we talk about the economy. I'm not excited about a downturn in the economy either. Nobody is. Worst quarter since middle of the pandemic just wrapped up. January, February, March, according to the Wall Street Journal. And I'm sure we'll be getting more numbers coming out tomorrow on that. Inflation's going to tick up. Don't like that a bit. But no, I don't understand all the talk about the economy in the context of the war and whether we should have or Shouldn't. You can't decide to take on Iran based on what it's going to do to people's 401ks briefly either. It's a good idea. It's not a good idea. And I'm perfectly fine with people arguing it's not a good idea. I don't agree, but I mean, it's not an illegitimate position. But to base it around the gas hit $4. So we should let them continue to try to get a nuclear weapon and attack Americans anywhere in the world and blah, blah, blah, blah. What kind of argument is that?

[Michael]

And to finance jihadism all over the globe. No, it's not. It's. It's a TikTok world argument. And that's one of the most vexing parts of the modern world to me, is that everybody asks, acts as if, if they make one, like, salient point, say, against the war. This is. Look, look what it's done to the stock market. Look what it's done to people's 401ks and then just sit there as if they prove their case. Well, wait a minute, wait a minute. There are all sorts of countervailing arguments here. Can we at least spend, I don't know, I'm gonna go crazy here, 45 seconds. Weighing the various pros and cons, short and long term, but it's kind of out of fashion.

[Joe]

So here's Gerard Baker in the Wall Street Journal who said, among other things, I'm not against bold opinion commentary, as you might have noticed, but this level of certainty about a war that is four weeks old and with plainly many more phases to come is simply unsupportable. As we stand, the outcome isn't knowable with any level of confidence. It surely rests on events at a tactical and strategic level in coming weeks and months that we can't know. To declare now that it is already won or lost is merely to affirm one's prior and continuing political and ideological prejudices delivered to an audience that wants to hear Nothing else. I 100% agree with that.

[Michael]

Yeah. Yep. Clearly true.

[Joe]

Wonder how bad it would have to go before I, for instance, would think we were better off not doing it at all. It'd have to go pretty damn bad.

[Michael]

Yeah, well, and then you'd have to. You'd almost have to have the distance of a number of years because you would have to know, I mean, if, if it really hurts, if there's a worldwide depression, well, then you certainly for a decade, you certainly could have made argument. Well, we could have done more. You know, pin prick strikes or strategic disruption of their program. Just kept doing what we were doing. But you're just not going to know until you're looking backward.

[Joe]

Right. And even then you gamble 100% true. Even then you'll be guessing because if they were, if they could have gotten a nuke within six months or a year, we don't go in that be really, really bad for the world. Really, really bad for the world. So who knows?

[Michael]

There is hardly a single historical decision of any significance that was easy at the time or clear at the time.

[Joe]

That's one of the things they did a really good job of at the World War II Museum in New Orleans that I went to with my kids was laying it out as it happened, where it was. Everybody was not on board at all with the idea of taking on Hitler, for instance, or the Japanese.

[Michael]

The American Revolution, even after the Brits had sent troops and killed a bunch of our folks, there are plenty of American colonists are saying, yeah, they killed you all because you threw the tea in the harbor and you're acting like a holes. Cut it out. We're subject to the king. You need to remember that. Very difficult.

[Joe]

So we have a breaking Supreme Court news.

[Michael]

Oh, that's right, big case.

[Joe]

Luckily Joe almost went to law school.

[Michael]

I only know this filled out some forms and everything. Yes.

[Joe]

Supreme Court overturns Colorado's ban on so called conversion therapy on first amendment rights, of course.

[Michael]

Yeah, this is a great victory for reasonableness.

[Joe]

So what was going on? What were they discussing?

[Michael]

You know, I don't want to speak out of school because it's been months since I read about this case, but there are, there's your conversion therapy where you can tell a young gay teenager boy, for instance, you know, that's just, it's a sexual urge. There's all sorts of sexual urges. You need to get right with God. God intends man to be with woman. Get your act together. And people who believe gay people are born, not made think that's terrible and offensive and will lead to misery. Okay, fair enough. But the idea that you can ban making that argument to a person is just, it's ridiculous. And here's where it gets extra insidious and oh my God, I can feel my blood boiling already. I haven't even begun to speak. The pro mutilating adolescents over the transgender thing crowd claims a counselor saying, you know, I understand that you're, you're interested in exploring your gender and that sort of thing, but A, you're autistic, B, you were sexually assaulted as a child. And c you have this other psychological problem, maybe we ought to sort through that before we start feeding you powerful hormones or giving you surgeries. They, the activists consider that quote unquote conversion therapy just the decent, responsible, compassionate counseling of confused children. So yeah, yeah, we've got to completely end any of those bands.

[Joe]

I'll.

[Michael]

I will dig into this, be able to speak more authoritatively, but I'm very happy to hear that.

[Joe]

Cool. We can get into a little more Iran later. We got a moon mission coming up tomorrow. There's been an update in the giant KitKat theft that has rocked the world with Easter Sunday coming. The candy part of Easter Sunday, not

[Michael]

the if Jesus were listening to this right now, he'd be like, wait, what?

[Joe]

Anyway, we've got an update on that and a whole bunch of other stuff on the way, so stay here.

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[Joe]

I didn't know. It was even worse than I thought. So they weren't even the regular Kit Kat bars. They were shaped like race cars. I love a Kit Kat. That's a good candy bar right there, in my opinion. 12 tons of KitKats stolen on a truck heist in Europe. Originally, the reporting was that this was gonna lead to localized shortings ahead of Easter for KitKat bars. But they now say that they can make up the difference somehow.

[Michael]

So I don't think of KitKat bars in Easter, but teach their own. You certainly worship the Lord with whatever candy you see fit.

[Joe]

Well, did your kids not get candy on Easter?

[Michael]

But not Kit Kat bars.

[Joe]

Not Kit Kat bars. Well, what candy do you consider. Okay, since she's clean, clearly have a very strong opinion on this.

[Michael]

We're jelly beanitarians.

[Joe]

Only jelly beans.

[Michael]

But no, that was a joke. I don't care. That's the point.

[Joe]

Well, we need an arbitrator. Katie, is KitKat like within bounds or out of bounds for Easter? If you are. If you're talking about the candy for the Easter egg hunts, it's out of bounds because it doesn't fit in the little eggs. Well, you got to get the minis,

[Michael]

but if you do the basket, then I could see KitKat being part of Easter.

[Joe]

Absolutely.

[Michael]

Because the egg laying rabbit loves candy for Jesus.

[Joe]

Right. You can't, you can't make pagans.

[Michael]

You're a bunch of pagans. Yeah. Jelly beans. Yeah. Put on your goat pants and worship sat.

[Joe]

You're a bunch.

[Michael]

Burn incense in the word in the woods. Yes. You know what the interesting story part of the story is to me, it's, it's a kind of an indication of the modern world. Instead of Nestle, you know, sweeping this under the rug or making a statement about a crime or blah, blah, blah. No, they've, they've steered into it and made it a giant social media thing. They've. We've always encouraged people to have a break with KitKat, but it seems thieves have taken the message too literally and made a break with more than 12 metric tons of our chocolate. Yes, it really happened. And then other companies joined in with Domino's Pizza, saying, we'd like to share our thoughts and condolences with KitKat. Blah, blah, blah. On a completely unrelated note, we're pleased to announce we'll now be selling a new KitKat pizza. The Charlotte FC Major League Soccer club announced that, you know, the first 10,000 people are going to get free Kit Kats at their game. Ryanair, the discount Irish carrier, posted a cartoon of one of its planes that has a face and a mouth stuffed with KitKat bars, et cetera.

[Joe]

I would say at this point, they've easily surpassed the value of that shipment in free advertising. Oh, yeah, almost certainly.

[Michael]

Absolutely.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Michael]

And then, and this is charming, so I've got to stuff this in. The incident is reminiscent of the time in 2018 when KFC was running out of chicken in the UK because of a problem with Suppliers, instead of trying to keep it quiet or whatever, they steered into it. They took out a full page ad. British newspapers to apologize. Kind of. The ad features an empty bucket of chicken emblazed with its initial rearrange to fck.

[Joe]

That's pretty funny.

[Michael]

It really is.

[Joe]

The CEO of KitKat said that the criminals have exceptional taste, but cargo theft is a growing issue. I feel like they got the wafer chocolate ratio just perfect on the KitKat man. Whoever is in charge of that, they really did a good job.

[Michael]

That's the key. Absolutely. Yep.

[Joe]

So hopefully your kids, Easter and your salvation will not be interrupted by this theft.

[Michael]

I believe it was the book of Mark. Yes. Not Luke, Mark, that addressed the chocolate to wafer ratio.

[Joe]

The Bible. How much. How much time have we got, Michael? I don't know if I have time for this or not. Oh, we can do it. Let's hurry through it. It deserves not much. I've never heard of Jaden Ivey. He is an NBA player or was an NBA player. He got cut loose by his team for Instagram posts that he put out like this one. 16. The NBA was, was, was everything to me. I didn't know God. I didn't know Jesus. When I came to the NBA, I was a fornicator. I was a pornography addict and. And I used to get drunk.

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And after a win, I felt good. After, after all those points, I felt good. I felt good. I felt like I had everything set out for me. Right. But. But as soon as that shut down for me, as soon as I didn't start.

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[Joe]

That's when. That's when God was humbling me. And he said he. He sat me down for a reason. So he's saying that he got cut loose because of his religious beliefs. He did make some fairly strong statements about how he doesn't believe in the whole trans thing. And they had LGBTQ night there at the. I think he plays for the Bulls. Is that what he plays for? It doesn't matter. Wherever he plays, they. They had LGBTQ night and he said some anti trans stuff. So that's probably why the team let it go. But others are pointing out you can say this sort of thing. Steve Kerr, coach of the Golden State warriors, won a whole bunch of championships. It's shameful, really, that in our country we can have law enforcement officers who commit murder and seemingly get away with it. It's shameful that the government can come out and lie about what happened when there's video and witnesses who have all come out and disputed what the government is saying. I don't know which of the recent issues they're talking about, but Steve Kerr making noises that we allow people to be murdered in the streets by comps and nothing happens and you get away with it. Is the anti American stuff in the NBA is perfectly okay? Oh, sure, yeah.

[Michael]

But anti mutilating young children is not. Yeah. Hey, Steve, Steve. Those government officials who made those ridiculous claims were called out by the other party, by their own party, by the media, by the people, and they were fired.

[Joe]

I don't think anybody got away with anything.

[Michael]

What do you want? What are you talking about?

[Joe]

I was a fornicator.

[Michael]

Hold elections regularly.

[Joe]

The interesting thing about that Instagram post where he's saying very little. I was a fornicator and a drinker and a pornography addict. He's in an airport. He's like in a very crowded sitting there waiting for his plane airport. Everybody's looking at him like quit screaming. I'm a fornicator. It's weirding me out.

[Michael]

My kids are asking me uncomfortable questions just as we're about to get on board.

[Joe]

So. Okay, we got more on the way. I hope you can stay here if you missed a segment Podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand Armstrong and Getty Support

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[Michael]

by Kid Rock's house and Trump's associated.

[Joe]

And that's not okay. Cuz that seems kind of cool to have a patch of kid kill a helicopters go by Kid Rock's house. What's what has been done wrong here?

[Michael]

I can hardly comprehend and anybody being actually upset about this.

[Joe]

Right. Have they broken any rule? They're looking into whether or not they violated any rules. Has anybody indicated any way possible that they violated a rule?

[Michael]

If the army tipped its cap to care on Katy Perry when Biden was probably wouldn't care. Good Lord. Coming up, a couple of things that may interest you. Number one, it is so beyond ridiculous that anybody would consider socialism. Javier Milei in Argentina. The progress he's made turning that country around ought to be known by everyone on earth. It's an economic miracle. Plus, speaking of beyond ridiculous, more analysis of how silly and not what it seemed to be. The no Kings protests were clearly Chinese financed old hippies getting together and saying yay for us. Stay tuned.

[Joe]

That's all interesting stuff. Look forward to it. So came across this the other day. This is I don't know how many years ago it was. Doesn't really make any difference. Oh, 20, 23. I do know how many years ago it was. Three.

[Michael]

Well done.

[Joe]

This is Gavin Newsom's old lady, Jen Newsom, who hopes to be the first partner of the United States when Gavin Newsom gets elected president. So she would be our first later lady being interviewed by Jen Psaki on msnbc. And it's a little long, but it's worth sticking around in case you're like you don't know much about Gavin Newsom's wife or what kind of person she is or whatever. She's going to be very, she'll be a very active first lady.

[Michael]

Oh, and, and very interesting topic of conversation come campaign time.

[Joe]

Yeah. He's gonna have to figure out how to keep her quiet. I think he's gonna have enough trouble cleaning up previous interviews, let alone, I mean if, if he became the nominee, you know, you know the focus you get as the nominee. And she's doing interviews like daily as they travel around the country.

[Michael]

Yes, please. Anyway, I want that so. But yeah, I'm saying He's gonna spend her, send her on a 12 week fact finding mission to Mongolia where they have no cell service.

[Joe]

She's sitting there with Jen Psaki wearing a very cool Saint Laurent lo1 biker jacket. I must say that. But here it goes.

[Jen Newsom]

Trip, you're here in Alabama now. Why was it important to you to take them on this trip to red states and learn about the history in our country? That's a great question. Well, I don't.

[Joe]

Could you stop it there? Because the key to this is to understand that she had just gone on a tour of red states. She had tr. She had taken her kids traveling through the south to teach them what? And go back to the beginning.

[Jen Newsom]

If you're here in Alabama now, why was it important to you to take them on this trip to red states and learn about the history in our country? That's a great question. Well, I don't think or I know for a fact that we don't get all of this history in our schools. And it's part of enlivening them, building their curiosity, expanding their hearts, their empathy so that they themselves can be the change they wish to see in the world and recognize that, you know, we have work to do and that we have healing to do and so that they can be, you know, use their voices to stand up and speak out when they see pain and suffering and bullying and racism and misogyny around them. And you want them to see it so that they know. I do. I'm a truth seeker. They need to know the truth.

[Joe]

She took her kids on a tour of the red states so they could see the misogyny, sexism and racism for themselves.

[Michael]

Yes. Yes.

[Joe]

Oh, my God. You talk about contempt for half the country. That makes Hillary's basket of deplorable seem like nothing. I took my kids on a tour of red state so they could see with their own eyes. Because they don't. Obviously. We all know if our history books and schools do anything, it skews way too far in covering up the flaws of the United States.

[Michael]

And to describe her as pretentious would be like calling Shohei Ohtani a good ball player. I mean, the word doesn't come close to being adequate.

[Joe]

The only reason you would ever take your kids to a red state is so they can see with their own eyes misogyny, racism, bigotry, and sexism.

[Michael]

Right.

[Joe]

How disgusting is that? Well, all fall short sometimes.

[Michael]

Did anybody's mom or dad take a parenting approach that was within a thousand miles of that when they were a kid? She obviously is trying to craft her children into some sort of ideological warriors. And by the way, something. Just a quick note talking about how the schools. And she must mean the schools in California don't teach. I know the history of A, that's all they teach. And they teach the kids to hate their country. And B, you sent your kids to an expensive private school so you wouldn't have very good idea at all what happens in government schools.

[Joe]

What the hell? You laugh, I laugh. Maybe the sarcasm in my voice wasn't thick enough, but. Yeah, because that. That's our. We all know our public school books hide the flaws of the United States. And all our teachers are refusing to talk about anything negative the United States ever did. That's the only thing they talk about. Ask my kids.

[Michael]

Their hyper conservative teachers union representatives are remembering, you must teach patriotism as part of every lesson.

[Joe]

Oh, my. And I like the fact that you can just step across the state line into Louisiana or some other red state and it's just obvious to everyone's eyeballs the racism, the sexism, the bigotry, the misogyny. It's everywhere for your kid to see. It's like going to the zoo.

[Michael]

Excuse me. Excuse me, can you point me toward the slave market? The what now? Where are the slaves being sold?

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[Joe]

That is red states for her.

[Michael]

Oh, my God.

[Joe]

Yeah. So.

[Michael]

God, everything about her, her tone of voice, her choice of words, not to mention the things she actually says, but everything just stinks of ultra wealthy Napa Valley.

[Joe]

Yeah, well, that's why I mentioned her Saint Laurent LO1 jacket, which I happen to know cost $6,000.

[Michael]

It was like from the start of

[Joe]

that clip where she went.

[Michael]

That's a great question. That's a great question. Because that question will allow me to show how incredibly enlightened I am.

[Joe]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Michael]

That whole thing, wasn't that something? I feel like I'm covered in slime after listening to that.

[Joe]

When I heard that the other day, I thought, well, he's got the benefit. He'll have the media on his side, like, entirely. But he should have to answer that. Is that what you think of red states, which you need some of to be elected president? Is that what you think of red states? They're just a zoo of racism and misogyny that you take your kids to to learn how awful we are?

[Michael]

Oh, I know. And then we'll move on to yeah, her fake charity produces fake documentaries that are entirely intended to convince little kids that they can and should change Sex. And then her fake charity sells those videos to schools for big dollars and gets big phony donations that the governor twists arms so she's a go. A walking, talking graft machine on top of the rest of it.

[Joe]

Yeah, I just.

[Michael]

Well, I think I'm for the grace of God.

[Joe]

Play the play. Just the beginning of it, because I want to hear them, because that is my favorite part of the whole thing.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Jen Newsom]

Trip. You're here in Alabama now. Why was it important to you to take them on this trip to red states and learn about the history in our country? That's a great question.

[Joe]

I don't barf. I know people who talk that way, and it's always so hard for me to keep a straight face when they do that.

[Jen Newsom]

You've got to be wearing a question well.

[Michael]

$6,000 jacket to pull that off. Yes, that is such a great question.

[Joe]

The only hope for Gavin. Well, the only hope for Gavin is that she's so busy running their Clinton foundation like charity to make them gazillionaires that she doesn't have time to get in the way. Not that the Trump crowd isn't doing it, too. I ain't pretending.

[Michael]

Oh, oh. They're making money hand over fist. The thing she. He can't muzzle her if even if he wanted to. No chance. She is more in love with her act than, I don't know, like a Tiger Woods. She is her own biggest fan by far.

[Joe]

Oh, absolutely.

[Michael]

And is 100 convinced that the world is dying to hear her wisdom. Oh, my God. There's no muscle.

[Joe]

She reeks of people. Need to hear what I think about this?

[Michael]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Jen Newsom]

That's a great question.

[Joe]

Well, that is. I, I, I would like to play that for a focus group. So if you lean progressive, would you hear that? And just like, oh, fill your soul with happiness because just it made my skin crawl on so many different levels.

[Michael]

Yes, Katie, I know. Oh, I just. I don't. I can't see anyone who would be spoken to like that and just be like, yeah, this is. This is right on. Okay, so here's what I advocate, because I think we're so stunned by her pretentiousness and acting like the red states of America are like subhuman zoos that we're all. It was tough to take in the full fire hose of drivel about how enlightened she wanted her kids to be. Michael, I insisted.

[Joe]

Play it again.

[Jen Newsom]

Tripp, you're here in Alabama now. Why was it important to you to take them on this trip? To red states and learn about the history in our country. That's a great question. Well, I don't think or I know for a fact that we don't get all of this history in our schools.

[Joe]

You gotta be kidding.

[Jen Newsom]

And it's part of, you know, enlivening them, building their curiosity, expanding their hearts, their empathy so that they themselves can be the change they wish to see in the world and recognize that, you know, we have work to do and that we have healing to do. And so that they can be, you know, use their voices to stand up and speak out when they see pain and suffering and bullying and racism and misogyny around them. And you want them to see it so that they know I do. I'm a truth seeker. They need to know the truth.

[Michael]

Oh, wow, Again, that was a symphony of protection.

[Joe]

I think, you know, many, many political pundits think the whole basket of deplorables is what got Trump elected. I think that's way beyond basket of deplorables. That's like our red states are zoos of awfulness that you should take your kids to to learn how terrible everything is.

[Michael]

Don't touch the locals, kids. Don't touch the locals.

[Joe]

I can't drive through in a bus and look out the window and see a little racism over there and bigotry over there and a little mosquito.

[Michael]

Like a wildlife park. Yeah, exactly. Keep your windows rolled up, kids. Keep the windows rolled up.

[Jen Newsom]

Don't feed them. They'll become dependent so that they themselves can be the change they wish to see in the world.

[Michael]

I counted at least eight different restatements of I want my kids to be enlightened, so I'm showing them all the ugliness in this terrible country. Yeah. Wow. And the contrast with the basket of deplorables thing is, Hillary kind of tossed that off describing, like, the hardcore anti Obama crowd. And it was a terrible misstep. And it was misstep. And it was pretentious and it was condescending. But this is Hillary Clinton we're talking about. Jennifer Siebel Newsom will give you five paragraphs on how deplorable the deplorables are, and she will spout that proudly and intentionally, in contrast to Hillary.

[Jen Newsom]

That's a great question.

[Michael]

Well, that's a great point, Joe. Yeah, I'm a truth seeker. It ends with that exclamation point of vomitus. I'm a truth seeker. I seek the truth. I want my children to be truth seekers.

[Joe]

To each their own. And they seem happily married. And I'm divorced so I shouldn't make any comment. I just can't imagine sitting through an evening with her listening to that sort of thing unless she doesn't do that act at home maybe constantly or something on the ground floor of some establishment because I am launching myself out a window.

[Michael]

Yeah, I'm not comfortable going to their relationship for a variety of reasons. Super good looking power couple. Just leave it there.

[Joe]

Yeah, I just.

[Michael]

Well, I think for the grace of God. Yeah, I see your point. Great point.

[Joe]

Honey. How is he? This is a for real because I've read a lot of books about a lot of campaigns. This is a for real problem that even if he doesn't admit it, he's got strategists that know she is a negative for them that they gotta figure out how to handle.

[Michael]

Oh yeah, think about your, you know, semi rural suburban Ohio voter who knows she's talking about them. They're not in Alabama, but they know. Oh my God, she'll be poison. It's too bad.

[Joe]

Isn't it something? All right, we got more on the way stair.

[Jen Newsom]

That's a great question.

[Bethenny Frankel]

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[Joe]

knitting to avoid spending too much time on their phones.

[Michael]

Someone must congratulate them for finding a bigger waste of time than social media. I mean,

[Joe]

knitting made sense when we had to make our own clothes, but now we have factories of children for that. Seriously, just shake your ass. Kids on Tick Tock if option B is to spend all day making a potholder. That's all I'm saying. Cynical.

[Michael]

Mar.

[Joe]

My niece is super into knitting. Like, I guess that's a kind of a hipster thing for that age. My mom has given a lot of young people lessons. I'll bet. Yeah, yeah. And, and it's. So there are all kinds of things. I didn't know this until fairly recently. There's all kinds of things that it does neurologically for your brain to knit. It's great, great for people with adhd. It's supposed to be just fantastic.

[Michael]

That is so interesting. I was going to say Marek brought that up just because he had a couple of great punch lines. But yes, clearly therapeutic.

[Joe]

Yeah, it might be. One of the reasons that it's caught on with that crowd is because there's so many kids with ADHD and.

[Michael]

Yeah, yeah, love it.

[Joe]

We got it.

[Michael]

The result is not the point of your hobby. The point of your hobby is that it brings you joy.

[Joe]

Got a Tiger woods update. Oh, so. Man, that mug shot is something. He is bleary eyed. Anyway, he had two hydrocodone pills in his pocket when he was busted on the DUI charges. So two pills which had M367 marked on them were later determined to be hydrocodone and opioid used to treat chronic pain, which I'm sure he has plenty of.

[Michael]

Oh, yeah, he's the classic guy who's in danger of becoming a pill addict.

[Joe]

He told officers, I take a few. Really, really to get easy, to get addicted to. That's what. Is that what Rush Limbaugh was addicted to?

[Michael]

Yeah, similar.

[Joe]

And went surfing. Yeah, went dove over. It's super, super easy to get addicted to, I guess. Thank God I never have. But how long is Tiger probably been a pain pill addict? A decade or more.

[Michael]

Depends. I could see him getting like getting clean then going back to him relapsing, that sort of thing. I mean, because he deals with a hell of a lot of pain thanks to his previous pill related car crashes.

[Joe]

Yeah, usually if you can ever get clean from those things, you are very, very, very careful going forward. But who knows? Do whatever you want, Tiger. I don't care. I'm libertarian enough. You can take Hydrocode on all day long if you want to. Just don't flip and drive. Yeah.

[Michael]

Boy, is he a candidate to not hit 60 years old.

[Joe]

No kidding. No kidding. We got a lot more on the way for hour three. If you miss the second week Podcast Armstrong and Getty ON DEMAND Armstrong and

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