Abiding The Drama

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: "Abiding The Drama"
Date: March 27, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this lively and wide-ranging episode, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty tackle the week’s hype, controversies, and quirks with their trademark wit and candor. Topics range from the over-promotion of women’s sports, to urban decay and public policy, inventive baseball heckling, Florida Man shenanigans, ideological infiltration, and more. The hosts blend humor and incisive cultural critique, inviting listeners into their thought process and frustrations—always with a dash of self-awareness about the show's occasional gloominess.

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Key Discussion Points

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Hype vs. Reality: Women’s March Madness & Coverage

[03:31–05:16]

• Joe Getty calls out the media's pretense that women’s NCAA basketball is as popular as men’s:
  • "News outlets trying to pretend that the female version of March Madness is every bit as big a deal as the men’s version... Who are you kidding?" – Joe ([03:31])
• Jack Armstrong contextualizes:
  • Acknowledges Caitlin Clark’s popularity and the spike in women’s finals ratings, but maintains that, overall, the men’s game is "a lot" more popular.
  • Critiques the notion that differing popularity signals discrimination, emphasizing:
  • "Equal, but not the same. Equal opportunities, equal rights, but not the same." – Jack ([05:16])

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AI & Modern Annoyances

[05:16–06:22]

• Discussion of AI text summarization failures—how Apple's summaries often miss the mark or alter perceived tone.
  • Examples:
    • "The summary of the text was twice as long as the actual text." – Jack ([05:56])
    • "Encouragement to continue" instead of "Go ahead."

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Urban Decay, Public Bathrooms, & Adjusting to Disorder

[09:45–13:16]

• California’s locked public bathrooms as a metaphor for declining civic standards:
  • "We keep adjusting to the junkies...they get to take our enjoyment so that they can have more enjoyment. When are we going to stop this retreating?" – Joe ([11:06])
• Rise in urban squalor:
  • Audio clip from Kevin Dahlgren in Portland laments city parks filled with trash ([12:13]).
  • "What kind of society is that? Pray your kid doesn't step on a syringe." – Jack & Joe ([13:03–13:09])
• Former SF Mayor Willie Brown’s view: Social worker-driven leniency has "ruined the city," and some people simply need to be jailed ([13:24]).

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Baseball, Technology & The Art of Heckling

[17:47–23:49]

• Robot umpires and their impact:
  • MLB’s experiment with challenging ball/strike calls via computers.
  • Retired umpire’s insight:
    • "Our biggest, most important job is one nobody really realizes...handling the emotions of the players and keeping order. There’s no computer system that will help with that." – relayed by Jack ([18:11])
• Trevor Gilmore – Social Media Heckler ("Trev's Chirps"):
  • Clean, clever, and comedic heckling that catches on:
    • "Hey, Nolan, I bet you don’t know the difference between there, there, and there, you bum." ([21:31])
    • "Hey, Kevin, you look like you eat bananas with the peel on, you bum." ([22:36])
  • Hosts celebrate the American tradition of good-natured heckling as distinctly original and funny.

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Florida Man, Substance Abuse & Bizarre Behavior

[27:28–29:18]

• News story: A man in Florida crashes through an airport gate and tries to board a plane, later admitting to police,
  • "I was at my house, I went to an AA meeting...I’m doing cocaine, drinking, and smoking pot." ([28:23–28:31])
  • Hosts marvel at his candidness and survival.

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The Ant Colony Allegory: Ideological Takeover

[29:24–33:49]

• Philosophical discussion:
  • Jack reads an allegory comparing ideological subversion in society to an ant species that infiltrates by imitating scent:
    • "A destructive foreign ideology takes the scent of familiar ideas...They do not see the intruder because it sounds exactly like them." ([31:30])
    • Conclusion: "The most effective conquest is the one that convinces a society that its own foundations are the enemy and that killing them is an act of virtue." ([32:06])
  • Jack and Joe draw parallels to postmodernist and neo-Marxist influence, referencing Orwell and James Lindsay’s "Cynical Theories."

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Animal World Brutality: Hummingbirds, Wasps & Nature’s Violence

[34:16–36:43]

• The unseen savagery of hummingbirds and invasive wasps serves as a metaphor for societal and biological ruthlessness.
  • "It's a hummingbird eat hummingbird world out there." – Joe ([35:11])
  • Conversation devolves into dark humor about animal violence at the feeder.

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Show Tone & Fan Feedback

[37:07–37:17]

• Listener text:
  • "Your show. Depressing? No. Hyperbolic? Yes. Good. Ratings demand the drama and you abide." ([37:07])
• Hosts joke about their reputation for negativity, poking fun at themselves.

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Online Life vs. Real Life: FEMA Official Controversy

[42:32–47:31]

• Discussion of a politically controversial FEMA appointee—a MAGA “poop poster” who has posted wild things online but has proven competent on the job.
  • "Credit…to CNN who went back and followed up and the people he works with say, oh, no, he’s been doing a terrific job. Go figure." – Jack ([44:58])
• Discusses how online rhetoric can be divorced from real-world behavior and the dangers of context collapse.

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Final Thoughts & Listener Engagement

[48:00–49:39]

• Crew shares humorous personal stories about sports heckling and generational divides in online stars.
  • "Hey, Tony, it looks like you left your game in San Francisco." ([48:21])
  • Reflection: "No country for old men...I’ll be in the woods watching squirrels cavort, trying to identify ant colonies and watch them murder each other." – Jack ([49:06])

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On equality: "Men and women should be equal. Equal, but not the same. Equal opportunities, equal rights, but not the same." – Jack Armstrong ([05:16])
• On adjusting to disorder: "We keep backpedaling away from the junkies and letting them encroach on our enjoyable lives." – Joe Getty ([11:06])
• On baseball’s social role: "Players need somebody to vent at...there’s no computer system that will help with that." – Jack, quoting MLB umpire ([18:11])
• On clever heckling: "I bet you really want to be traded to the Savannah Bananas, you bum." – Trevor Gilmore heckle ([21:31])
• On ideological subversion: "A destructive foreign ideology takes the scent of familiar ideas and walks in as if it belongs." – Read by Joe ([31:30])
• On modern online drama: "Good ratings demand the drama and you abide." – Listener text ([37:07])
• On the difference between online and real life: "People will just go overboard online, but in real life, they’re just not like that." – Joe Getty ([44:46])

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Important Timestamps

• [03:31] – Media and women’s March Madness coverage
• [09:45] – Locked bathrooms & escalating public disorder
• [12:13] – Portland’s park trash: clip & commentary
• [17:47] – MLB robot umps & role of human emotion
• [20:34] – Baseball’s best heckler: sample heckles
• [27:28] – Wild Florida Man at airport
• [29:24] – Ant colony allegory and cultural critique
• [34:16] – Hummingbird violence and animal comparisons
• [42:32] – FEMA appointee, internet posting vs. real-world action
• [48:00] – Closing thoughts & generational humor

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Tone & Language

• Casual, conversational, sometimes sardonic
• Self-aware about negativity but also quick with a joke or cultural reference
• Blends serious critique with absurd, uniquely American humor

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Takeaway

"Abiding The Drama" serves up Armstrong & Getty’s blend of skepticism, exasperation, and levity as they navigate the week’s absurdities. Whether discussing cultural trends, sports, urban woes, or the enigmatic world of online behavior, the duo maintains a uniquely American sense of humor and social commentary, always striving to step back and “abide” the bigger dramas at play.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

I feel like it's more egregious this year even than years past. News outlets trying to pretend that the female version of March Madness is every bit as big a deal as the men's version of March Madness. Yeah. And I've seen a couple of times where they tease, coming up, how's your bracket looking? And then when they come back, UConn continues to dominate the bracket in the women's NCAA tournament. They do that first and then do the men's. I mean, who are you kidding here? Who are you kidding?

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

I mean, it's just if, if women's basketball were more popular than men's, I'd be happy to say it. It doesn't bother me. But it's not, it's just, and it's not even close. I mean, the attendance, the ratings, they're not even in the same ballpark or league as a thing. So why pretend that it is? I saw Bill Burr, the comedian tonight. He was talking about this. He was talking about the WNBA and, and players were angry about the crowds. And he was saying, we men, do we have to do everything? So we have to go to your games for you. Because the women aren't filling the stadiums to go watch their fellow women play. They're going to men's games. Yeah, I know lots of women that are super big college basketball fans. Men's college basketball fans.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Just, it's, it's not. There's nothing wrong with the fact that for whatever reason, the men's version is more popular by a lot.

[Jack Armstrong]

There Are several reasons. Yeah, but you do. Yes. We're aware that when Caitlin Clark was in the final, the ratings were fantastic, blah, blah, blah. But, yeah, it's. It's an odd, odd thing.

[Joe Getty]

But why pretend? Why lead with the women's and ask and act like that's what everybody is waiting through the commercials for?

[Jack Armstrong]

It's the sort of people of the left who equate the word equal with the same that if women have an equal right to sports, if not as many people go to watch them or watch them on tv, that's proof that it's some sort of discrimination or injustice. No. Men and women should be equal. Equal, but not the same. Equal opportunities, equal rights, but not the same. That's a bizarre notion. Anyway, I just had a very funny AI moment. Apple now, in their struggle to get AI going and working with Google and all, will give you. I think it was on the lock screen, a summary of a text. If you're just looking, you know, oh, why did text come in? And the summary of the text was twice as long as the actual text.

[Joe Getty]

That's pretty funny.

[Jack Armstrong]

That was funny. The actual. The text of the text was go ahead. And the summary was encouragement to continue.

[Joe Getty]

I find that sometimes the summary of an email or a text looks really harsh. And I think, oh, and then it's a very lighthearted reply, like, what? Why'd you make it seem like, all

[Jack Armstrong]

right, Rejection of your proposal. Okay, coming up, some really good stuff from the best heckler in baseball. Just hilariously funny, and all sorts of good stuff to squeeze into the final hour of the week. But first, let's take fun. Look back at the week that was. It's cow. Clips of the week. Clips of the week.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

That's why I was like, what y' all doing? Finna tell them to clean up?

[Jack Armstrong]

We cannot incarcerate our way out of violence. We've already tried that. It is racist. It is immoral. It is unholy.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

The Ayatollah's dead.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Who the is Ayatollah?

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[Jack Armstrong]

We can do this. The Marines. My money's always on the Marines in the grand scheme of things. Fast wars Just don'. Happen and they're not easily resolved. What makes you trust them?

[Joe Getty]

I don't trust anybody. I don't trust you.

[Jack Armstrong]

I never. In all the work I've ever done with the orange regime, they do nothing

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[Jack Armstrong]

We're going to end up with settling this. Otherwise we just keep bombing our little hearts out.

[Joe Getty]

Sometimes you have to escalate to de escalate. But I really hope the American people will be with him because he is

[Jack Armstrong]

doing this to make the whole world safer.

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[Jack Armstrong]

You answered the wrong phone.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Little is right. I'll do that. To our national anthem clips of the week. That reminds me, I was gonna say in many regimes around the world, that guy would be executed for slaughtering the national anthem like that. Which reminded me it's becoming pretty clear who the next leader of North Korea is going to be. And it's Fathead's 13 year old daughter.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I saw that. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean we're all familiar with the concept of mean girls, but she's gonna be a mean girl.

[Joe Getty]

Why do you suppose he did that? Does she just show certain promise or.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, it's got to be. She has the qualities or gets it at that tender age of what the family business is. Because for a while it was supposed to be his sister. But they're roughly the same age.

[Joe Getty]

I wonder if it's just somebody young enough. They're not a threat yet. You don't have to worry about them consolidating power and offing you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. But it's surprising to a lot of Korea watchers that it's a female, but whatever.

[Joe Getty]

So the clip we played in there of the mayor of Chicago saying we can't incarcerate ourselves out of this problem. That whole, you know, jailing people hasn't worked. It actually did work very, very well. We started jailing the hell out of people like in the 70s and then crime dropped like crazy over the 80s and 90s, 2000s. Then we decided to go back the other direction and let's try not punishing people for crime anymore. So which brings me to our new code thing we've got on our the bathroom here on the fifth floor here at the building. So now they've got a keypad on there, like, and I don't know where, where you're listening, where you live, this might be completely foreign to you. You might be living like all of America has lived for hundreds of years, where if you go into a restaurant, they have a bathroom that's open to the public, and if you want to go, you just go and you walk in the door. You might live somewhere like that and, like, be completely lost by this conversation. But around here in California, there are very, very, very few open public restrooms. They all have a lock on them with a code. And you have to get a code from somebody at the front. And it's all to keep junkies from using your bathroom, like sleeping in there, befouling it, washing themselves, whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, and just to make it make the point even clearer, it's not like there are public bathrooms, quote unquote, in the Radio Ranch. They're just unlocked bathrooms. Businesses. And the customers of those businesses to you, which you could have forever in every office building in America.

[Joe Getty]

And, and what drives me crazy, and this is what I'm always complaining to my kids about. And you know, when we're at CVS and you got to get somebody with a key to unlock the antiperspirant for you, we keep adjusting to the junkies. We keep backpedaling away from the junkies and letting them encroach on our enjoyable lives. They get to take our enjoyment so that they can have more enjoyment. When are we going to stop this retreating? So rather than, you know, and then you got the lawsuit thing, like Starbucks ended up in a lawsuit because they wouldn't let somebody in a bathroom or whatever and blah, blah, blah. So then a lot of businesses just decide, okay, we don't have public bathrooms. And they always have a sign say closed for repair or whatever. There's lots of places like that in California. Or you just don't have the bathroom because you're going to get into some sort of legal problem. What are we going to stop retreating and say, no, no, no, how about this? How about you get all the freaking drug addicts within five blocks out of here and then we can continue to have open bathrooms like we always have. And it was fine.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now is a perfect moment for clip number 11, Michael. It's a fellow by the name of Kevin Dahlgren. He's a Portlander.

[Joe Getty]

I am not standing in a trash dump. I am standing in a public park in the city of Portland. This is absolutely disgusting and it is everywhere. This is not isolated issue. I find this in our green spaces Every single day, there's hundreds of thousands of pounds of trash everywhere.

[Jack Armstrong]

One of the most beautiful cities in the world. And the video is amazing. It's just so much garbage. It looks like. Well, it looks like the outskirts of a garbage dump.

[Joe Getty]

So that guy, I'm sure as a guy with a job and paying taxes paid for the park. Then drug addicts and has enjoyed it

[Jack Armstrong]

for most of his life.

[Joe Getty]

Then drug addicts to get to befoul it with no, no penalty to them. You don't get used to the park and probably are gonna end up paying for the cleanup and maintenance.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

What kind of society is that?

[Jack Armstrong]

Pray your kid doesn't step on a syringe.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, just nuts. We gotta quit retreating in the face of the drug zombies.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do we actually have the Willie Brown audio or is that just something you saw where he was talking about how ridiculous it is to. Yeah, okay, yeah, I read it.

[Joe Getty]

But former mayor of San Francisco and longtime speaker of the House, speaker of the assembly in California, said that California's San Francisco's policies ruined the city. All these social workers who got in charge who think they can talk these people out of being bad. He's basically just saying that some people are bad and you got to throw them in jail. Yeah, the end.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or kick him out of the park. Where am I supposed to go? Not here. That's your problem. You can't be here.

[Joe Getty]

Nuts. All right, I'll stop complaining. It's a Friday. I don't want to be angry. Just reminded me when I went to the bathroom to punch in the code. I'm adjusting to them as opposed to making them adjust to us. That's nuts. Anyway, we'll talk about something nicer like baseball coming up. Stay here.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

O' Neill Cruz. Oh, we got it. We got a cap. We got a cap. Touch a challenge. And it came from Peralta. So is that the first successful challenge of a ball strike call in Major League Baseball?

[Joe Getty]

So the the computer told the umpire they were wrong on their call, Right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Exactly. We had a discussion yesterday based on a column by Jason Gay in the Wall Street Journal about the problems with the robot umpire thing and it was so insightful. So good. Kudos to Jason. If you want to hear it, grab yesterday's Armstrong and Getty on Demand podcast. I won't repeat all of it, but I got permission from my buddy Brian, the major league umpire, recently retired, who's been, you know, feeding me information about all sorts of baseball related things for a long time, who said something interesting. I'm less worried about the job security because our biggest, most important job is one nobody really realizes. But Major League Baseball knows handling the emotions of the players and keeping order. There's no computer system that will help with that. Now that the balls and strikes can't be argued or vented over, are they going to start fighting each other in the dugout? The anger and emotion has to go somewhere. I can't wait to see where it goes. You got to give me a shot.

[Joe Getty]

Give me a shot. Remember we were playing that clip years ago, the manager losing his mind and the umpire, you know, letting him vent and talking him down. That's exactly right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. And the players are really, really intense sometimes too, and they need somebody to vent at. And so they yell at the ump a couple of times, the ump rolls their eyes and on we go with the game. Yeah, yeah, I thought that was interesting. Speaking of baseball, I was aware of this guy just a little bit, but it's funny, he's kind of got a higher profile now thanks to. Oh, and both of these stories are kind of about baseball, but they're really about life and human beings. Trevor Gilmore, or Trev's Chirps as he's known on social, the world's greatest baseball heckler right now. And because of social media, you can hear his stuff. He and a buddy went to a Triple A baseball game, sat in the bleachers and thought these people's heckling is terrible. He said they're not creative and it's personal. It's mostly just a lot of you sucks. So I'm like, there's a better way to do this. And so he launched his social media pages and his buddy who is at the game, films everything he does. He's actually a big Giants fan, hangs out at the San Francisco. San Francisco Giants games a lot. And they have a special ticket deal with him. And a lot of fans will like buy him tickets or pose for pictures. He's become a thing. Wow. But we'll start with 12, Michael, and go from there. Here is some of Trevor Gilmore's work.

[Michael (Technical Director)]

Hey, Randall, I bet you drink red wine with fish. You bump. Hey, profor, I bet you put your feet on people's dashboards, you bumps. Hey, seven. I bet you like to chew with your mouth open, you bum. Hey, Kevin, I hear you like to drive your golf cart on the green, you bum.

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I remember hearing that at Cubs games

[Jack Armstrong]

when I was a little kid. The Padres Jackson Merrill says he chirped me and was like, I'll bet you

[Michael (Technical Director)]

always three putted golf.

[Jack Armstrong]

So for the first month of the off season, I3 putted every green.

[Joe Getty]

Something I never do.

[Jack Armstrong]

He got inside my head.

[Joe Getty]

You bum.

[Jack Armstrong]

You bum. How about a little more, Michael?

[Michael (Technical Director)]

Hey, Morales, you look like you dropped common loot, you bum. Hey, Velar, I hear you like your steak well done, you bum. Hey, Kevin, I bet you really want to be traded in the Savannah bananas, you bum. Hey, Nolan, I bet you don't know the difference between there, there and there. You bump. Hey, Jeffrey, I hear you like to buy your Legos pre built, you bum.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. He'll also drop the occasional movie quote or song lyric, which always gets to the knowing fan. Oh, do we have time for one more, Michael? Why not? Lifting my spirits.

[Michael (Technical Director)]

I hear you don't refill the Brita when you're done, you bum. Hey, Jonathan, I hear your favorite character on the Office was Angela, you bum. Hey, Randall, I bet you leave trash in your friend's cars, you buff.

[Jack Armstrong]

What a dirt bag.

[Joe Getty]

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[Michael (Technical Director)]

Hey, Kevin, you look like you eat bananas with the peel on you, you bum.

[Jack Armstrong]

You guys ready?

[Michael (Technical Director)]

Hey, Addie, I bet you think Africa is a country. You. Yeah. You bum.

[Jack Armstrong]

You bum. Oh, boy.

[Joe Getty]

That is fantastic.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is so American. I love that.

[Joe Getty]

I sat behind a couple of young guys in Phoenix at a Phoenix Suns game. I took my dad. I told this story many times. His 80th birthday, I bought tickets to sit right behind the bench to watch LeBron play when Cleveland was in Phoenix. And so we got to see it up close. Everything but there were these two must have been rich kids. They were young, sitting in the very front row. Also, their heckles were really good. They were kind of like that. They heckled endlessly, but they were all like, not personal. They were just like weirdly entertaining. And the players would look over and shake their heads like, what the hell are you talking about?

[Jack Armstrong]

I hear you eat your Kit Kat sideways, you bum.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that's great.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, it is the old ballpark, huh?

[Joe Getty]

Listen, we're one.

[Jack Armstrong]

We're the funniest country on earth. Let's not lose that America.

[Joe Getty]

Exactly. We got more on the way. If you missed the second make it the Podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Shocking scene in Florida at Daytona Beach International Airport watches this man runs towards a plane. Authorities say he rammed his Ford Mustang

[Joe Getty]

through the airport gate, entered the active

[Jack Armstrong]

tarmac and tried to board an aircraft. Brian Parker was arrested.

[Joe Getty]

Officials say he was intoxicated. He faces a number of charges including felony trespass. Florida MAN so he crashes his he's drunk, crashes his car through the gate at the airport, goes all the way to a plane and tries to get on the plane. That is some behavior. I don't know what was going on

[Jack Armstrong]

in his head, what it was.

[Joe Getty]

It was like a small like a single engine plane and he tried to get into the cockpit. Wow. Wonder what he was thinking in his head what he thought was going on. Anyway, we've got some of the body cam audio, I guess from one of the law enforcement people.

[Jack Armstrong]

What's the deal, man?

[Joe Getty]

I don't remember. I was at my house, I went

[Michael (Technical Director)]

to an A meeting and you know,

[Joe Getty]

I'm doing cocaine, drinking and smoking pot.

[Jack Armstrong]

Lucky I didn't get on my motorcycle.

[Joe Getty]

So you were doing all kinds of drugs and ran through a gate?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, and I crashed my car. Well, it's gonna aid in the investigation. Thank you, sir, for your candor.

[Joe Getty]

Well, the. So the cocaine, pot and the booze all combined together to somehow it seemed like a good idea to crash through the gate at an airport and try to board a plane.

[Jack Armstrong]

He seemed remarkably coherent given all that had occurred.

[Joe Getty]

No kidding. Wow. He looked high as a kite. And he said I didn't really remember.

[Jack Armstrong]

He looked way too old for that sort of lifestyle too.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, really? How old do you appear to be?

[Jack Armstrong]

It's 58. 58, 50s? Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

God, that's a 20 something sort of behavior, not 58.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's a miracle he's lived this long.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, I got something kind of thick here. Can you handle thick on a Friday? This is kind of thick. This is pretty interesting though.

[Jack Armstrong]

Thick. CK or cc?

[Joe Getty]

I was gonna go with ck.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay.

[Joe Getty]

This come from. From an author of a book called Islam, Israel in the West. I don't know this person. It doesn't really matter. Assume this is true. If it's not true, I don't know, sue me.

[Jack Armstrong]

Complain on the Internet.

[Joe Getty]

Go on the Internet and complain. There is a species of ant that approaches the edge of another ant colony, kills a single worker and then takes on the dead ant scent. Have you ever heard this before?

[Jack Armstrong]

It sounds vaguely familiar. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

For ants, scent is everything. And once you kill that ant, get it sent wearing that scent. The intruder can walk in with no resistance. The workers pass by without any concern whatsoever. The intruder then moves inward toward the queen. Then it sprays the queen with a drink. A different scent that makes the workers turn on her than they surround her and kill her.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my Lord.

[Joe Getty]

The intruder does not need to fight anyone. The colony does the work itself. Once the queen is gone, the intruder reproduces. The true invader is no longer an intruder. It is the future. And of course, I. You probably saw this coming. This was going to be a allegory metaphor, or whatever you want to call it, for something bigger. This is how ideological takeover works. A destructive foreign ideology takes the scent of familiar ideas and walks in as if it belongs. It speaks the native vocabulary, justice, equality, compassion, rights, progress. It uses these words and quietly changes what they point to. Then it moves inward. It alters how foundations are perceived. Responsibility is made to smell like cruelty, law like oppression, borders like hatred, tradition like danger, history like guilt. At that point, the civilization turns on itself. Like the ant colony, its courts, universities, churches, media and bureaucracies begin treating their own foundations as threats. They believe they are defending the system. They are enforcing what now smells legitimate. They do not see the intruder because it sounds exactly like them. And when the founding principles are finally removed, discredited, dismantled, raced, the foreign ideology does not need to conquer anything. It inherits what is left. The queen is gone. The colony is no longer itself.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, that's perfect.

[Joe Getty]

Pretty good. The most effective conquest is the one that convinces a society that its own foundations are the enemy and that killing them is an act of virtue. How good is that?

[Jack Armstrong]

That is.

[Joe Getty]

That is exactly what has happened.

[Jack Armstrong]

Perfect writing.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, Very clever. By the evildoers. Whether it's, you know, that Foucault crowd and the, the, the. Their whole thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

The postmodernists. Yeah, yeah, but man, I often call them neo Marxist.

[Joe Getty]

Very clever. And I'm not sure history will even document it. Well, assuming we don't survive it, and I'm not sure we will. Of how, how incredible, how incredibly clever it was to go in and convince people, people, a culture to hate itself and its own institutions.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it's, it's, you know, they've borrowed from Orwell too. It's, it's astonishing and horrifying to me how few people understand that's what's happening. And as I always say, these people wrote books. Their names are on the spine. They described exactly what they were going to do and how they were going to do it. And that is what you are seeing. That's the woke thing, the woke apocalypse. That's these postmodernists, Foucault and his band of merry Frenchmen. And this is all on purpose. And then insidiously, and it's interesting that that came from a book about Islam, Israel in the West. That's where the Red Green alliance becomes significant, because the Islamists see what the postmodernists are doing and think, hey, let's do exactly what they're doing, and in fact, let's band with them until we can chuck the current system, because once, when the revolution comes, we'll kill all the Marxists.

[Joe Getty]

I thought that was really, really good.

[Jack Armstrong]

That was brilliant.

[Joe Getty]

Pretty good.

[Jack Armstrong]

Send that to me.

[Joe Getty]

Pretty.

[Jack Armstrong]

I want to memorize that.

[Joe Getty]

Pretty thick with a ck, not with a cc.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. I've never seen the guy that denotes

[Joe Getty]

kind of like big thighs in a hefty Darier esque figure.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, curvy. That was really, really good.

[Joe Getty]

Is that true about the ants? It doesn't need to be true for the. For the. I mean, for the important part to be true.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, it does. Sounds very, very familiar to me. Vaguely. But I was just reading about this invasive wasp. There are a couple, I think, both from Asia, that are vexing the country at either end. One in the northwest and one in the southeast. But the one, the one in the southeast, obliterates bee colonies like honeybees. The good bees, the bees we need, and it decapitates the bees, which seems unnecessarily like Isis like to me.

[Joe Getty]

Why do you have to do that with bees? I wouldn't think that that's because for humans it's like to really terrorize you. Look how what they're willing to do. And does that work on bees?

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't think so. But my point was going to be the insect. Well, the animal world, but the insect world in particular is utterly brutal.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, it's horrific. Murder happens every time you turn around. They're constantly killing each other.

[Joe Getty]

It's a hummingbird eat hummingbird world out there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Not sure that's a great metaphor.

[Joe Getty]

Have you ever watched those videos when they slow down the whole hummingbirds eating thing? Oh, my God. That's one of those.

[Jack Armstrong]

You don't think they're like taking turns at the flower? They're beating the bejesus out of each other.

[Joe Getty]

They look so cute and beautiful and they come into your hummingbird feeder and then one goes in and eats and the other one goes in and eats. I mean, it happens so fast. If you ever get to. I'm sure you can. Have you ever seen it on YouTube or anything there, Katie?

[Jack Armstrong]

No, but.

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What?

[Joe Getty]

They slurp it way happy.

[Jack Armstrong]

The crap out of each other with their beaks.

[Joe Getty]

When two hummingbirds come into your hummingbird feeder, they get into a violent battle that's unbelievable. If you see it slowed down frame by frame and you watch it, then it's just horrific. You hate to even be a part of it. I refuse to believe this.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's like watching a dog fight.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I'll let you guys do a

[Jack Armstrong]

lot of things that won't let you

[Joe Getty]

ruin my hummingbirds for me.

[Jack Armstrong]

They're trying to stab each other's eyes out. Wake up, girl. No.

[Joe Getty]

It is like watching a dog fight, which I've never done, would be awful. I wouldn't be able to stomach it. But yeah, the hummingbird violence is incredible.

[Jack Armstrong]

For what it's worth, I've never actually seen one injured in this jousting. It's more like they're pushing each other out of the way, but their beaks

[Joe Getty]

are long and sharp, so yeah, and the strong one will just terrorize the weaker one so it can't eat. When it flies off looking all happy, it's because it got its ass kicked by bigger, tougher hummingbird. Wow, this is the worst segment you guys have done today. I don't like saying something you know.

[Jack Armstrong]

We're bringing a little reality to your fairy tale world. All right.

[Joe Getty]

This would be perfect before we go to break because we're often joking and we're only we're joking to remind ourselves to not be this about where the most depressing radio show in America. We don't want to be that, but we can get on a roll. Negative things that are happening. Anyway, we got this text. Your show Depressing?

[Michael (Technical Director)]

No.

[Joe Getty]

Hyperbolic? Yes. Good. Ratings demand the drama and you abide there. We are abiding the drama. The Armstrong and Getty Show.

[Jack Armstrong]

Perfect.

[Joe Getty]

We'll finish strong next. Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, shut up.

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

So's your mother. Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

the Armstrong and Getty Show North Carol China Woman was recently bitten by an otter while watching A marathon, Said her friend. Just say you don't want to come to my party. Okay.

[Joe Getty]

Dang it. I didn't have my headphones on. What was the setup for that joke?

[Jack Armstrong]

That was the funniest thing I've ever heard in my life.

[Joe Getty]

Michael, since they both missed it, will you play the first thing again? Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

A North Carolina woman was recently bitten by an otter while watching a marathon. Said her friend. Just say you don't want to come to my party. Okay. For the record, I did hear the whole thing. That is very funny.

[Joe Getty]

And this aired before it abiding the drama.

[Jack Armstrong]

The Armstrong and Getty Show.

[Joe Getty]

We are abiding the drama. We're doing our best.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do you have that text handy? Again, so oddly worded. Somebody who's willing to.

[Joe Getty]

The next thing put up with our relentless negativity. I guess your show. Depressing? No. Hyperbolic? Yes. Good ratings demand the drama and you abide.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's actually my self affirmation. I say into the mirror every. Every morning. Good shows demand drama. You must abide. All right, let's do this. So here is a story that amused me on a couple of different levels. It's from CNN of all places, who I quote about once a year because they're terrible. This is a poop poster.

[Joe Getty]

A what?

[Jack Armstrong]

One of your online provocateur et poster troll super maga guy like that Joe Kent guy who Trump went ahead to keep the coalition together and appointed to a powerful job in fema. He's like a top FEMA official leading their office of response and recovery. Okay. When people are really suffering in the. The stuff has hit the fan, blah, blah, blah. This guy's got a history of unbelievably, like violent, combative statements. But we're gonna beat the hell out of him and I'm gonna track him down and punch him right in his face and blah, blah, blah. On and on and on. He said of Joe Biden, I'd like to punch that biatch in the mouth right now. He's a nasty se crappy human being and he deserves to die. And I hope he does. Okay. This is the dude. So he gets appointed to this really important FEMA job. Wow. And the people in the department are really freaked out and worried. Here's the punchline. After a few weeks, several of them told cnn. To their surprise, Phillips hands on involvement during the spate of storms had softened their doubts. Greg Phillips is FEMA's best hope at this moment. I can't believe I'm saying that. Evidently this guy Gets into the job. Oh, I forgot. He claimed quite seriously to have been teleported to a Waffle House.

[Joe Getty]

Well, okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

He was at home. All of a sudden, he was at a Waffle House. And his sons will verify. There's no way he could have made it to the Waffle House 40 miles away in that time. He was teleported there.

[Joe Getty]

I've had similar experiences. I'm at home drinking a football game. Next thing I know I'm at a Waffle House. Or they flipped on the lights at the bar and the next thing I remember, I'm at a Waffle House. I've had those things happen to her. I'm not sure it was spacecraft.

[Jack Armstrong]

You were teleported.

[Joe Getty]

But the. The s. Posting thing kind of fits in with what we've experienced. People that will just go overboard online, but in real life, they're kind of just not like that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, but. And credit honestly to cnn who went back and followed up and the people he works with say, oh, no, he's been doing a terrific job. Go figure.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. That's part of the whole really weird when in Rome atmosphere of online commentary.

[Jack Armstrong]

That and this, which is something we've talked about a fair amount through the years. The idea of posts or phrases for one audience are interpreted as if they're the official pronouncements of you as the spokesperson for yourself. Right. FEMA spokesperson said, this is so silly, it's barely worth acknowledging. DHS, FEMA and Mr. Phillips are focused on the critical mission, blah, blah. Many of the comments cited are taken out of context or represent personal, informal, jovial, and somewhat spiritual discussions made in the context of barely surviving cancer in a private capacity prior to his current.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, and that whole. Because I've run into this. Joe and I've run into this sometimes. We've had law enforcement get involved. Oh, that was a joke. You guys didn't think that was funny? Yeah, that didn't sound like a joke at all. Really. Lacking any nod toward humor whatsoever. But in your mind, I guess it was humorous.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know where you live and somebody ought to take you out. No, didn't get the joke. No, no, no, no, no, no. And the Ricky Gervais thing. So brilliant that people make jokes and they laugh not because they think I agree with that. It's because everybody disagrees with it and everybody's shocked and it's a human reaction. But that's useful for those, you know, the vicious activist types who. It reminds me of the ant metaphor. And the great thing you read last segment and the way you ideologically capture an institution. And the whole point of critical theory is no matter what somebody says, you find a word, declare it problematic, and say it proves they're racist. Or homophobes or transphobes or the patriarchy or whatever. And you get people so on their heels because they don't know what to say next. Because everything they say, you find a word and you say that proves they're racist till people sit down, shut up, and let you run the institution. James Lindsay and Helen Pluckrose's brilliant Cynical Theories is a great book to read if you'd like to know more.

[Joe Getty]

Have you been. I gotta look up this guy's name because he's not a household name for me like he is for my son. Do you know Bruski? Drew Ski? You know, Drewski K.K. no. Oh, he's like the biggest thing in the world for anybody under 30. I might throw that into my final thoughts.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay. Hey, kids, it's that time again with Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up the show for the day. Michelangelo, our technical director, will lead us off. Michael, this is a true story.

[Joe Getty]

It's funny.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was at an NBA game years ago, and there was a role player named Tony Bennett.

[Joe Getty]

And so he's shooting two free throws

[Jack Armstrong]

and he misses both of them.

[Joe Getty]

And the guy in our section yells,

[Jack Armstrong]

hey, Tony, it looks like you left

[Joe Getty]

your game in San Francisco. The whole section laughs. Oh, that's a good one.

[Jack Armstrong]

Classy heckle. Keep it classy. Katie Greener, esteemed newswoman, has a final thought. Katie, it's funny you just put those

[Joe Getty]

two words together, Jack, because that's what I say when I'm joking with Drew and I'm going to bring him a beer. I go, does Bruski. Does Drew want a Bruski? That's pretty funny. Well, now you know that. My final thought. Drew is a giant star. Like my son said, you don't know who Drew is. Really, really big deal online presence. Anyway, he did a mocking Erica Kirk video that got tons of attention in the last 24 hours that I find quite hateful. But in his mind and the crowd's mind, mine might just be a joke. I. I don't even know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, back to your frequently stated no country for old men thing. I just. I'm voting no. I'll be in the woods watching squirrels cavort, trying to identify ant colonies and watch them murder each other.

[Joe Getty]

That sounds relaxing. I find it relaxing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, to watch ant animals murdered each other brutally.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Slow down the hummingbirds and really watch them take each other's eyes out.

[Jack Armstrong]

Bet on the outcome. Armstrong Degenerate hummingbird gambling.

[Joe Getty]

We're wrapping up another four hour workday.

[Jack Armstrong]

So many people. Thanks a little time. Go to armstrong getty.com for the hot links for Katie's Corner for the A G swag store, Pick up your favorite ang fan, a T shirt or a hat or a hoodie and drop a snake. Notice there's something you see over the weekend we ought to be talking about. Mailbagarmstrongandgetti.com well, we'll have the latest news

[Joe Getty]

for you on Monday. See you then. God Bless America Armstrong and get it we want to thank you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Thank you for tuning in.

[Michael (Technical Director)]

Jack and Joe.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hey and Michael Angelo.

[Michael (Technical Director)]

They'll be back on Monday to clue you in. In the meantime, down the podcast so

[Jack Armstrong]

you don't miss a thing.

[Michael (Technical Director)]

It's called Out Strong and Getty on Demand.

[Jack Armstrong]

Bye. Have a great Friday, you mother Armstrong and Getty.

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