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Dennis Black
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Jack Armstrong
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, Armstrong and Getty.
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Joe Getty
And now he is Armstrong and Getty.
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Michael
Welcome to a replay of the Armstrong and Getty show. We are on vacation, but, boy, do we have some good stuff for you.
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Joe Getty
Yes, indeed we do. And if you want to catch up on your A G listening during your travels, remember, grab the podcast Armstrong and Yeti on demand. You ought to subscribe wherever you like to get podcasts. Now, on with the infotainment.
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Michael
And this week is always Fat Tuesday and Mardi Gras happening in New Orleans. And I just saw some Mardi Gras revelers down there. Cyber truck had pulled up on the street and there was a tremendous amount of booing going on. And I just thought that was interesting that that is, like, seen as an. I was gonna say a vehicle, but it's actually a vehicle, so using it as a. Here's the sound. Booing a cyber truck pulling through.
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Joe Getty
Well, the music pulsates in the background.
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Michael
Women are their boobs for mes. Yet still time to boo the leader of Doge because you hate cutbacks in spending. I just don't get it.
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Joe Getty
Wasteful spending, idiotic spending. That's just tribal signaling. Ooga booga.
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Michael
Okay.
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Joe Getty
Yeah. Speaking of that sort of thing. Oh, Michael, are you giving up playing chest for lint? I am. Yes. No more chef. So one of the themes that the President struck In his speech last night was getting rid of a bunch of woke crap and transgender this and that, which I thought was terrific. And we'll play some highlights in, I don't know, 20 minutes, half an hour, something like that. But I thought a couple of things were very interesting. One more newsy and one more philosophical. But first of all, the newsy thing. For the last decade, the establishment media have touted advocates claims as fact that we have roughly 15,000 transgender people serving in the US military. If you're not familiar with the term, it means a person of one sex pretending to be the other sex. Wow. And over and over again, I've heard the 15,000 number and thought, damn, that's a lot.
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Michael
Nah, I never believed it, but, yeah.
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Joe Getty
I didn't either, but I had no idea what to think. But this week, President Donald Trump's Pentagon revealed that the number is about 4,200 service members, which is still a hell of a lot, but it's just over one quarter of what they were claiming. This adds up to one transgender person for every 500 service members in a military of 2.1 million active and reserve members. I am surprised that it is that many. And I'd be curious as to what is going on psychosocially. That would. That would cause that.
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Michael
I mean, you. You talk about ridiculous tribalism. I came across Bill Crystal's tweet last night. Most of you don't know who he is. He used to be one of my favorite pundits. He's a hardcore conservative, like in the classic style. His dad, Irving Crystal, founded, I think, the Weekly Standard, one of the great writers of conservatism, and. And Bill Kristol carried that on. And then Bill Kristol hated.
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Joe Getty
Called Barry Goldwater a moderate.
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Michael
Bill. Bill Kristol, who used to be on, you know, like Meet the Press and Face a Nation and arguing for conservatives, all these years, he hated Trump so much, he went over with the people that formed the bulwark, and they have become a grift machine. And they've just figured out that if they say bad things about Republicans, that they can make a lot of money. And this is what Bill Kristol tweeted out last night. Stand with trans Americans. You don't have to understand everything about the transgender experience to know that Trump's act of humiliation and dehumanization are unjust and dangerous.
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Joe Getty
You've lost your mind.
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Michael
Just because he hasn't lost his mind, he's become so cynical. He just thinks, you know what? It's all A game. Anyway, screw it. There are enough of these people out there. If I take this angle, they'll continue to, you know, donate money to us and read our stuff and give us clicks and I'll make a. Whatever.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, give up the converts. Everybody wants to celebrate the convert. Yep, yep. Yeah. Wow, that is some cynical crap. So, speaking of which, those of us who aren't cynical have looked at the world around us and, and I think a lot of you probably understand that the hardcore activists in the WOKE thing are neo Marxists. And the WOKE thing is just an excuse to say you're in charge of this institution, but you're a racist. And I can prove it with my anti racist theories. And obviously we can't have a racist in charge. So now I'm in charge. It's a method of conquest. It takes over institutions, be they, you know, schools or government departments or whatever. We get the hardcore doing that, the people who want to be nice people and they go along with it. This is the useful idiots. And they, they are legion in their numbers. And often it's young people because young people are easy to. To indoctrinate.
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Michael
The problem with that term is that Lennon's term.
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Joe Getty
I think it is, yeah.
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Michael
John Lennon. No, V I Lennon. The problem with that term is that it's obviously quite insulting. It's not a good way to explain to someone that they maybe are being used for a purpose that they do not agree with. If you call them an idiot.
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Joe Getty
Right. You know, you make a good point. Let's go with useful morons instead. Useful half wits. No, it's. It's actually one of the better impulses in humankind, which is what I'm leaning toward. It's long been known that all the intelligence agencies and governments of the world are interested in influencing people to believe certain things, to support certain programs or certain governments. I mean, that's obvious, right? Propaganda. The Hitler Youth, the Mao Tse Tung and his Red Guard, just all sorts of programs like that. And a guy who's been studying this his whole life, his name is Jason Kristoff, and he did a presentation recently that was hosted by Senator Ron Johnson. Speaking of rock ribbed conservatives. He explained how mind control is easy to execute because human beings are essentially walking psyops. He said, he quote, he said mimetic programming, which is the process of having someone learn to imitate patterns and behaviors, is routinely used in Hollywood films and by powerful corporations and governments. Quote, mind control works on the subconscious and the subconscious is something that loves us and wants to Protect us. And it's in the realm of activities similar to your heart beating. So you. There are things you understand as a human being that you're not in control of. They're instinctive. Your subconscious mind is always looking to establish what the bigger group of humans is doing, and so it is responsive to repetitive content. Simply put, people are always looking to learn what a larger group is doing and fit in. Meaning that repeated messages can be enormously powerful. You know, obviously, we're just talking about conformity here.
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Michael
All sales organizations know this.
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Joe Getty
Sure. Quoting again from Mr. Kristoff. The reason the subconscious does this is because it knows that most humans like other humans who act, talk, and think like they do. And all the subconscious know, and all your subconscious know that it's safer to bond with a bigger group. To break this mind control technique down further, your subconscious automatically absorbs repetitive content and forces people to adopt ideas as their own. Your reptile brain is telling you you decided this on your own to go along with the crowd, because for whatever reason, that works better with humans. It's more adaptive, as they say in anthropology.
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Michael
That's why, for example, do any of my beliefs come from my own thinking, or is this all just because I was surrounded by it?
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Joe Getty
I think sometimes the best you can do is be intellectually honest and examine your beliefs and test them now and again and try the other ideas. But anyway, that's. That's a great other topic. What time is it? Yeah, we're good. This is why, for example, at a party where there's a lot of alcohol being served and consumed, people can feel nervous saying no when offered a drink. Quote, if you dare say no in opposition of the most repetitive content, your nervous system will make you feel extremely uneasy and full of anxiety. And it will also reward you for going along with it, putting your neurology at peace and calm. In the feeling of calmness. That's repetitive.
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Michael
So there's more to peer pressure than meets the eye, right?
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Joe Getty
Exactly. It's not weakness. It's. It's anthropologically adaptive. The. The problem is, you know, unless you're an alcoholic, you're going to be fine having a drink. Or unless somebody's trying to feed you a roofie and rape you or something like that, you're fine.
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Michael
Bill Cosby's house or.
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Joe Getty
Right, exactly. In short. But if there is an insidious group bent on evil, utilizing these truths intentionally and aggressively, you get an entire generation of young people walking around saying, it's not wrong to have a man in a woman's sport even though he whoops the hell out of the women and takes all the titles. It's not wrong to have a man in a women's prison because that man says he's a woman. They come up with an idea as ludicrous is that a man who says he's a woman is actually a woman.
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Michael
And then certainly things that are easier to go for I won't say fall for, like hearing about climate change every class you're ever in your whole life.
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Joe Getty
Right? Christoph actually touched on the COVID 19 pandemic in the response said media outlets push highly similar similar narratives to quote unquote control people, influencing them to stay at home. Mind control is the basis of all advertising and the governments have been proven to be using the same group dynamic application against the public. He pointed to examples such as the UK's Behavioral Insights Team, informally known as the Nudge Unit. Have you ever heard of this?
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Michael
No.
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Joe Getty
It's a former government organization now run by a charity which uses behavioral insights to change people's behavior, for example, by changing messaging to make people more likely to pay their taxes on time.
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Michael
Wow.
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Joe Getty
Kristof believes such tactics have been used to drive social changes for decades, with depictions of large nuclear families on screen diminishing since the 1950s in favor of less conventional families with fewer children, among other things. And corporations use similar strategies. But we're running out of time. But you get the idea. And I've often said you don't need to do what the culture is doing, because a lot of that is designed by people who do not have your best interests in mind. So maybe the only great takeaway from this is if you find yourself wanting to conform, understand that that is your animal brain being used often by evil people to try to get you to behave in a certain way.
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Michael
That's really interesting stuff.
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Jack Armstrong
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty the Armstrong and Getty show the Armstrong and Getty.
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Michael
Show so my 13 year old, and it matters what his age is, apparently wanted to open a checking account at the bank or an account at the bank because he's got enough money built up from allowances and birthdays and Christmases and he doesn't spend his money like his brother does. He saves it because he wants to be able to put it toward a car someday and that sort of thing. So he's got a decent sized chunk of money added up over the years and he'd been keeping it in his shoebox and so he's going to open an account and I remember when I opened an Account when I was probably about his age. I started mowing lawns when I was 12, 13 and accumulating money and opening a bank account passage.
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Joe Getty
I remember it myself on the way to the bank.
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Michael
I did say to him, I said, you know, I haven't, I haven't been around the idea of opening an account for a bank in 40 years, something like that. So I don't know if the rules have changed but so in case something happens. But anyway, so we get it there sure enough. And so we're trying to open this account and everything like that. And first of all, many banks, everything is. I don't know if it's because the government comes down on them so hard or something like that. They, they treat everybody like you're a wannabe terrorist. Like everything you do, it's like jeez, lighten up. But anyway, he needs to have two forms of ID is where we ran into the roadblock. I said, what is a form of ID for a 13 year old? He said, they said, well your Social Security card is certificate. Okay, great. So I said the fact that I'm his dad isn't good enough. I can't vouch for the fact that he's my son and I have an account here and have had for 25 years and open an account for him. I can't do that. No, we need to. And I said is that a bank policy or a state law or what is that? Because I was thinking if it's a bank policy, I'll go to a different bank. But it's a federal law, it's part of the Patriot Act. I said oh cool. Of course. And he said, well it's a federal. I said you don't need to explain the federal government to me. And I hate the federal government. I said. And then the guy looked at me like I was oh, he got wide eyed like, oh, you're one of those people. You're Timothy McVeigh. You're, you're. You're one of those people.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, clearly I've heard about them.
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Michael
I said I hate the federal government. The Patriot Act's ridiculous. This is ridiculous. The fact that I can't open a bank account for a 13 year old and as his parent I got, I gotta prove who he is because you can't take my word for the fact that he's my child makes me child.
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Joe Getty
Money laundering little mule for your militia, whatever you want to call him.
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Michael
The Patriot act was so I was trying to explain it to. It was so much crap that they jammed through it's all because of 9 11. So you're gonna stop the next 911 by making sure 13 year olds don't open illegal bank accounts? I guess. Yeah, whatever. Even though their parent who you know is sitting right there. I hate stuff like that. And the, and the. But they were, they are. Their eyes got so wide when I said, I hate the federal government. And I was thinking if I was doing this same thing in my, in my. Where I went to college in Hays, Kansas, and I said, I hate the federal government. The teller would have said, yeah, me too. Don't you high five. I thought, what a difference.
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Joe Getty
Amen to that, brother.
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Michael
But that just being. Oh my God. You shouldn't say. She said, oh, she even gas. She gasped. The woman gasped. And her boss just looked at me wide eyed like, oh, we about to have a fight.
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Joe Getty
Oh, man.
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Michael
You have to have two pieces of id. Even though he's my kid, I just found that amazing.
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Joe Getty
All right, here's. Here's the guy who retweets my quotes. Get ready to jot this one down and get it right, would you? Anytime the government says there's an emergency, there are two emergencies.
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Michael
Yeah, but actually. Exactly. And I actually told my son because he was wondering, he was really like, is that something you can't say out loud? I said, I told him the most revered Republican president of the last maybe century, Ronald Reagan, ran on the scariest words in the English language are, I'm here from the. I'm from the government and I'm here to help you. I mean, he ran on I hate.
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Joe Getty
The government or I just saw a clip this morning. The government isn't the solution. Government is the problem.
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Michael
And the woman who was typing furiously after I said that because she was so horrified that anybody would say that, I said, you know, all the money in my account, I made that by going on the radio every day and saying, I hate the government living.
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Joe Getty
By the way, if the Justice Department is listening or the FDIC or I don't. The CIA, the nsa, if they. I'm happy to testify against this monster.
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Michael
I'm sure I'm on some sort of terrorist watch list now.
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Joe Getty
Yes, Michael, to wonder they didn't hit the silent alarm on you and then, you know, cops show up or something.
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Michael
I would have been, I would have loved to talk to people and explain why it's okay for me to say I hate the government.
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Joe Getty
No, no, no. We've got to surveil him for a while and go through his mail and monitor his phone calls. We've got the NSA working on it already.
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Michael
What I hate is the manager guy acting like it makes sense that we have a law that I can't vouch for my kid being my kid. That just seems perfectly reasonable to me.
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Joe Getty
Two forms of ID for a child.
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Michael
Right when their parent is there.
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Joe Getty
How about he says his name, then I say his name. Is that two forms of id? And if not, what the hell has the.
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Dennis Black
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Jack Armstrong
The Armstrong and Getty Show.
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Joe Getty
I thought this was so interesting. Stephen sent this along. Did the God fearing founders of America arrive at the three branches of government? From the Bible? This is from Isaiah 33rd chapter 24th verse for Jehovah is our judge, Jehovah is our lawgiver, Jehovah is our king, he is the one who will save us. I see judicial, legislative and executive right there in scripture. I think you know, that reflects the ancient reality that when human beings associate, they need someone to make up the rules. Then figure out how are we going to enforce these rules and what if there's a disagreement? I think it's as simple as that. But yeah, it's interesting indeed that it goes way back to the Old Testament, the Bible. That's right, sir. That's what we're talking about. Mailbag. You can drop us a note anytime you like, Michael. Always appropriate. Drop us a note Mailbag atarmstrong and getty.com this first email references the fact that today is indeed my birthday. Not only that, it is my 60th birthday. I know you're thinking, Joe, you seem so useful and clever.
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Michael
That can't be true.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, I know.
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Michael
Have you checked the math on that?
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Joe Getty
I know, I know. Jack and I first connected in our mid-20s.
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Michael
We're 25.
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Joe Getty
Yeah.
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Michael
That seems.
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Joe Getty
I only remember, like, three things between then and now. Two of them were births of children.
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Michael
That's. Sorry, that seems like. And I know if you're 40, this seems weird. Maybe. Or certainly if you're 25, that seems like six years ago.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, roughly.
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Michael
Seems like about six years ago.
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Joe Getty
Yeah. It's crazy.
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Michael
It's nuts.
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Joe Getty
And I've received a lot of well wishes, which is lovely and very, very much appreciated. And it's funny, it's Tuesday. It's a work day. I've got my kids arriving in town this week, which is big fun.
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Michael
That is awesome.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, it is awesome. And I'm looking forward to reconnecting in various ways. My son and I, I picked him up at the airport, give him a big hug, and then we philosop the entire way home from the airport, which is what we do. My eldest, my youngest daughter and I spar and joke and kid each other. And so it's. It's just fun reconnecting. It's been great. But happy birthday, Joe. Thank you, Michael. Appreciate it. Hopefully Hanson and Katie will get you something. And as to the whole, you know, I don't need anything. As to the old 60 thing, which seems like such a milestone. You know, it's funny, I. I was so miserable like, a year ago because of my back problems, and I feel so much better now. I feel like I'm de Aging or something. I'm not, Lord knows, but. So I don't feel old. I feel younger than I used to. So I don't know. I just. Let's. Let's just keep doing what we're doing. Let's have fun, let's do this show, let's play some golf, let's enjoy a nice glass of wine. And just. As opposed to not big on milestones.
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Michael
As opposed to what? Lay down in front of a train? I mean, is that the other option, or. Well, no, no, no.
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Joe Getty
I'm just. I've never been huge about milestones. It's like when I graduated from college, I was like, all right, what's next? I just. I didn't weep. And. And. And maybe I lack the ability to reflect properly on things as they pass, but certainly when my kids moved out, that was a big thing. But I'm like, yeah, okay, thanks. Great. Let's. Let's get on with life. Anyway, so this is from Dave and Reno, with whom I apparently share a birthday. In fact, here are some other famous people that we share a birthday with. I was aware of some of these people, not all of them. Jeb Bush. I'm sorry, that's Jeb with an exclamation point. Sarah Palin.
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Michael
Oh, lipstick.
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Joe Getty
How old is she?
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Michael
You guys are probably about the same age, aren't you? You and Sarah Palin.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah, we could date. But just going to remind Judy that now and again. Sarah Palin. We got a connection. Anyway. Alex Jones. Oh, great, the Thomas Edison. What order is this?
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Michael
This is a good list.
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Joe Getty
You've got good in a way.
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Michael
Alex Jones. Well, sharing. Sharing day with a big. With your birthday with other people. Thomas Edison. That's a big one.
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Joe Getty
That is a big one. Although, you know, my great. Well, I'll, I'll finish some of the list.
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Michael
Your mom's fault.
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Joe Getty
It is, I know, just always in a hurry. And I'll explain that in a moment, but Leslie Nielsen, the great Burt Reynolds, Jennifer Aniston, and other people who don't matter. But I've always been resentful that I was one day short of sharing a birthday with my great hero, Abraham Lincoln, which have been cool. I get Burt Reynolds. Traded the beard for the mustache, I guess. Moving along. Moving along with Mailbag, the question of the Democrats going crazy. And JT read an interesting Victor Davis Hansen piece about that. But to put it bluntly, the left has abandoned this common sense approach of finding middle ground, working together. Ever since Trump came down that escalator, they've abandoned any effort to seek common ground. The result is what VDH writes about in his article. Anti Americanism, anti rule of law, anti equality, in favor of equal outcomes, and even anti reality. If Trump was for opening schools based on the science, they were against it. When Trump wants to control the border, they want to leave it wide open. When Trump wants to report illegal aliens guilty of terrible crimes, they want to fight to keep murders, rapists, and gang members in the country. When Trump wants to save taxpayers billions or trillions of wasteful government spending dollars, they want to fight for the wasteful government spending. There is no common ground to be found in a party that's hell bent on opposing everything Trump wants to do.
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Michael
It's.
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Joe Getty
It's a bizarre sort of politics.
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Michael
Dumb. I like your strategy of I would hang back and wait for something to go wrong because it inevitably will on the world stage, domestically something, and then take your shots. The trying to turn what's going in right now into something bad. You ain't going to do it. There's too much public support. I felt like there was a different tone on the evening newscasts last night and I blame slash credit it to that CBS poll that came out Sunday with Trump having a 53% approval rating. I felt like I could hear that 53% approval rating and David Muir's voice as they were covering Trump yesterday at the beginning of the evening newscast. Much more treating him like a regular president. I mean, maybe he has a point sort of tone. I, you know, maybe I'm making that up, but I really feel like that. And they should be. There should have been somebody in that news director meeting and all of those newscasts saying, hey, look, people, he's got a 53% approval rating after all of this craziness has happened. So maybe other people don't think it's as crazy as we do. Maybe we ought to look at it slightly different. I mean, they'd be, they'd be nuts if they weren't doing that.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, I don't have any great admiration for politicians brains and wisdom and the rest of it. I think most of them are hacks and greenheads. But I would think they would at least perceive A, what you just said and B, that the frantic the sky is falling. He's a Russian agent. He's going to kill millions of people. With COVID I don't trust his vaccine. Now that it's our vaccine, jab it into yourself whether you like it or not. I mean, just the systematic. He wants the borders closed. Open up the borders. Let rapists. And having seen how miserably all that failed, I would think they would at least say, hey, let's talk about this for a couple of weeks and figure out what to do. But instead they're, I mean, full speed ahead, moron. Maxine Waters screeching at security guards at the Department of Energy and Chuck Schumer bellowing, we will fight in the streets. What are you gonna fight in the streets? Exactly. Anyway, we're kind of getting off on a tangent away from Mailbag, which is fine. A number of people have sent the screenshot House votes on the Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act. Republicans 216 to nothing. Yay. With two Democrat votes joining them. But Democrats were 206 to 2 against protecting. Protecting girls in sports.
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Michael
I didn't know that.
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Joe Getty
Well, in the Caption is, imagine being the party that accuses the other party of hating women, then voting against women. The hypocrisy's breath.
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Michael
Wow. They're so scared of the nutty left that they were that uniform and being against that.
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Joe Getty
My. Wait a minute. Bone is a humming. I want to check those numbers to verify them. Don't take that to the back.
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Michael
Okay. Yeah.
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Joe Getty
Because that strikes me as I've received it from a bunch of people. It says it appears to be a screen capture from Fox News, but it's easy to make things appear to be something they're not.
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Michael
Definitely.
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Joe Getty
That'll do for now. Sprinkle in some more later.
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Michael
Copper is already up 2 1/2 percent. This was yesterday. I haven't looked today because of the announcement of ending the penny. That's almost 15% so far this year. And it's early February, so the return on keeping pennies in a jar is beating interest earned by keeping cash in the bank, currently, at least for pennies.
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Joe Getty
I shouldn't have chucked them away all these years. You.
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Michael
Would you actually throw them away or.
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Joe Getty
Oh, yeah, yeah. Leave them.
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Michael
Well, no, no, no. First of all, fence. And I would call the fence.
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Joe Getty
Oh, good Lord.
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Michael
I know it's your birthday. I can't have you destroying currency.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, no, I just leave them places for people to find them.
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Michael
Well, that's nice.
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Joe Getty
I'll leave them on counters or whatever.
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Michael
I can't tell if that's nice or just like, super, the opposite. Here's a penny to the proletariat. I hope they have a good day. I left them a plenty.
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Joe Getty
I don't address them to their face like that. I just leave it. And fellow oligarchs like me will pass it by and say, I'm not picking up that filthy piece of copper. But the poor might appreciate my all.
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Michael
I feel like that's the way. Then we'll take a break for Katie's headlines. I've said for years that's the way they should judge whether or not we should keep currency. Get a hundred random people. Maybe do it in an airport or bus station or something like that. You leave a penny on the ground, a nickel on the ground, on the dime, on the ground. What percentage of people bend over to pick it up? Almost nobody's going to bend over to pick up a penny, which is proof that it is worthless. I don't know about the nickel. Almost everybody, I think, would pick up the dime. But nickel? I'm not exactly sure. You're. You're. You're sour on the nickel. I still think a nickel is something, but practically nobody's going to bend over to pick up a penny, which I think is.
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Joe Getty
I don't think I've spent 27 hours in the last year with any change in my pocket.
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Michael
Well, no and no.
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Joe Getty
And if you're.
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Michael
If you're under the age of 40, you don't. You haven't spent a. An hour with any money in your pocket at all in the last year. Younger people. I know. Just the idea of having money in your pocket seems insane. Why would you do that?
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Katie Green
Yes, Katie, another big indicator. The numerous shops on Etsy of people drilling holes in pennies and turning them into keychains.
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Michael
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Katie Green
When there's penny jewelry everywhere.
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Michael
Oh, really?
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Joe Getty
Yeah.
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Michael
When that's happening, your currency is no longer doing. How did it take till now for Trump to say, we nobody. We don't need the penny?
- [30:55]
Joe Getty
It's that weird clinging to what is status quo, whether it's a government program or the schools or whatever. We just were terrified by the idea of reexamining things and asking the only question that matters. Is this working?
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Michael
Right. But then we adopt as a country or get scared into adopting. All of a sudden, dudes can participate in girls sports and there's no such thing as men's and women's restrooms. I mean, so how does that sweep the nation? At the same time, we're unwilling to, you know, do away with the time change that we all hate or the penny, which is worthless.
- [31:28]
Joe Getty
Bullying, that's how. Bullying, I guess, by radicals.
- [31:31]
Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
Meanwhile, Jack, I've discovered what I believe to be the we shall overcome of 2025. The we are the world of the 21st century. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you. Which side are you on?
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Unknown
Which side are you on? Which side are you on?
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Joe Getty
Rally in Washington.
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Unknown
You on? Which side are you on? We'll fight against Jo. We'll fight Elon Musk. No else. Camp within our walls. We'll fight from dawn to dusk. Oh, which side are you on?
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Joe Getty
Which side are you on? I'm on whichever side ensures I never have to hear the song again. Play it, Michael. Play it, damn it. Did somebody tell you?
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Michael
Turn it off.
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Unknown
He wants us all to fail. He wants us to bow to him. But we want him in jail. Oh.
- [32:52]
Michael
Oh, my God.
- [32:56]
Joe Getty
Wow.
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Michael
You know, I. I don't forget who wrote this or said this, and I thought it was really good. One of the problems we got going on in America is we. We had this period in the 60s where there was a whole bunch of late 50s, mid-60s, particularly where we had all kinds of this sort of thing, songs and protests and, you know, the. Look at the Bob Dylan movie and the Civil Rights act and all these different sorts of things where there was, like, a real major issue to be dealt with and, and people rallied around and there was a witch side where you're on, and people.
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Joe Getty
It was righteous.
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Michael
It was righteous. And people want to relive that all the time, even if that issue doesn't exist right now. And you can't, like, put that level of intensity on Doge. He's trying to cut spending by a few percent and shrink the government. Which side are you on?
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Unknown
Which side are you on?
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Joe Getty
Elon Musk, thanks for asking.
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Michael
It's not a moral question of our time, as you.
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Joe Getty
Exactly. As you point out, it's just so nakedly a strategy of we've got to change these incremental cuts that aren't nearly enough to a bloated federal workforce into the civil rights issue of our day. Yeah, good luck with that. I mean, you want to talk about trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, that's like a silk purse out of the pig's crap, never mind its ear.
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Michael
God, this is not gonna work. The singing, the lyrics. Was that a Saturday Night Live bit? Good Lord, don't take that government buyout.
- [34:26]
Unknown
Don't listen to Trump's lies. US Workers haven't got a chance. And let's reorganize.
- [34:38]
Joe Getty
Pretending that the union is standing up for goodness and righteousness, when indeed they're just standing up for continuing to have way too many workers paying way too many dues to enrich themselves. We're on to you, friends.
- [34:50]
Michael
I sure hope I'm right about this, and I think. But the. The vast majority of America doesn't look at government jobs as sacrosanct, protected by all that is good. They should never go away under any circumstances the way they think we do.
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Joe Getty
Well, they have managed to jam through every bit of wasteful spending and, and redundant taxation and similar stuff for years and years. And we're most familiar with California, but by. By always it's the teachers and the firefighters. If there are any cuts, it's going to, you know, the firefighters are going to have to fight fires with Dixie cups full of water and, and the teachers, well, they're just going to be imprisoned. Apparently, if we don't pass this tax increase, well, now it's extended. Like all government workers who are sacrosanct and sacred and so valuable to society, we dare not question them for a minute.
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Michael
Right. The great civil rights issue of our day is making sure mid level government employees who do something that you can't even tell what it is don't lose their jobs. All right?
- [35:51]
Joe Getty
No matter how unnecessary their jobs are. Right.
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Michael
And there's also the issue, and I don't think Elon's been hammering this enough, although he has many times in his Twitter threads. There are important jobs and important agencies that are going to have to go away if you don't have enough money. It's like if you're broke, you really, really want to do this or that, but you can't. You just flat don't have the money.
- [36:15]
Joe Getty
Katie Green. What? What should we know about what we're about to play?
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Katie Green
So I was scrolling through Tick Tock and this popped up on my for you page. And the. The visual of this, it's a woman filming it. Her husband is driving and he has headphones in and she's clearly talking at him, but he cannot hear her. And this is how it goes down.
- [36:34]
Joe Getty
He thinks I talk too much. Can't get a word in edgewise when I'm talking to my girls. But we're on a road trip in a confined space and he's got earbuds in listening to Armstrong and Golden. Yeah, good man. Yeah, he can't.
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Katie Green
He says he can't get a word in edgewise. And he sitting there, he doesn't hear a thing she's saying because he's listening to you guys.
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Joe Getty
That's funny. We made Tick Tock. I hope Xi Jinping doesn't purge that clip because it mentions the flaming anti communists Armstrong and Getty.
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Michael
I. So you have Tick Tock on your phone or what? How much do you enjoy it?
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Katie Green
It's. It's okay. I mean, the algorithms, definitely, it catches my attention, but I try to, you know, not use it as much because.
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Michael
The China thing, I wish I could do it. I mean, I would like to. I would like to, but I'm not going to.
- [37:29]
Katie Green
There's a lot of obnoxious crap on there. But somehow that algorithm put that video on my phone yesterday.
- [37:35]
Michael
Wow. Don't trust China. So it knows where you work.
- [37:39]
Joe Getty
It probably knows what radio show is beloved coast to coast.
- [37:45]
Katie Green
Yeah. Or it hears it through my phone when I'm on with you guys every day. I'm not sure, but I thought that was hilarious.
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Michael
That is funny. Bring him back. He's not fat. That's a good chant.
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Jack Armstrong
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