A&G Replay Friday Hour Three

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: A&G Replay Friday Hour Three

Date: May 15, 2026
Host: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

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Episode Overview

This hour of Armstrong & Getty dives into substantial themes in American political culture, the future of work, the health of local and national communities, and headline stories involving foreign espionage, higher education, and contemporary media figures. The “Replay Hour” centers largely around the reflections of former Senator Ben Sasse, his philosophical approach to politics in an era of terminal illness, and discussions about national dysfunction. It also highlights a chilling testimony about Chinese espionage on US campuses and explores issues like rapid online degree programs, all interspersed with the show's signature wry humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Ben Sasse: Mortality and the State of American Politics

Timestamps: [03:56-15:14]

• Senator Ben Sasse’s 60 Minutes Interview:
  Joe Getty reflects on the remarkable perspective Sasse brings, particularly as he faces terminal cancer. The hosts praise his intellect and lament his rarity in modern politics.

  • Joe Getty: “Why can’t we have more people like this in our politics?” [04:20]

• Politics and Philosophical Focus:
  Sasse differentiates what deserves political attention versus what typically consumes Washington—warning that important issues like the future of work and community cohesion are neglected.

  • Ben Sasse, Clip: “We are living through a digital revolution… Anything that can be reduced to a series of steps… is going to be routinized and become really, really cheap, really fast and really ubiquitous.” [06:23]

• Community Versus Political Tribes:
  Sasse warns against making one’s primary identity a national political tribe, advocating instead for deeper local community ties.

  • Ben Sasse, Clip: “Your fundamental political community is your neighborhood and your city hall...we are sacrificing a lot of our national politics to weird folks who want their main community to be their political tribe at a federal level.” [08:08]

• Critique of Modern Political Culture:

  • Calls out “personality cults,” conspiracy theories, and treating politics as religion. [10:12]
  • Ben Sasse, Clip: “Personality cults aren’t conservative. Conspiracy theories aren’t conservative. Lying that an election has been stolen, it’s not conservative. Acting like politics is a religion, it isn’t conservative.”

• Dangers of Political Identity:

  • Sasse notes too many in government see their highest calling as being a senator or congressman—when it should rank far behind roles like parent or neighbor. [10:53]
  • Ben Sasse, Clip: “The best thing you can do is be called dad or mom, love her, neighbor, friend… [Being a senator] should be your 11th calling or maybe sixth, but never top.”

• Tribal Politics, Entrenchment, & Radicalization:

  • Armstrong & Getty express dismay at the transformation of politics into America’s “national religion and sport” and note increased willingness to embrace radical or violent rhetoric. [12:00-13:33]
  • Joe Getty: “It is absolutely terrible, and not the way it was designed.” [12:14]

• Will Reasonable Voices Be Heard?

  • The show questions if statesmen like Ben Sasse can thrive when primary fights and polarized mobs dominate both parties. [14:35]
  • Jack Armstrong: “If the Ben Sasses of the world… will get absolutely bulldozed by the howling mob, we've got to neutralize their howling mob with ours before we can even hope to have a sane conversation.” [13:56]

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2. Chinese Espionage on U.S. Campuses

Timestamps: [15:47-20:57]

• Testimony of Elsa Johnson, Stanford Student:

  • Johnson describes being recruited by a Chinese agent, receiving threatening calls referencing her family, and getting little support from Stanford until the Hoover Institution intervenes.
  • Elsa Johnson: “I was a freshman navigating a foreign intelligence operation with no institutional support.” [19:26]

• Lack of Awareness & Protection:

  • The hosts criticize American complacency, noting how easy it would be for students to cooperate under pressure—noting the vast number of Chinese nationals on U.S. campuses can be vulnerable to such leverage.
  • Jack Armstrong: “We are the most comfortable, least aware superpower that's ever existed on earth.” [18:34]

• Stanford’s Institutional Response:

  • The university’s public statements are contrasted with student experience, casting doubt on their effectiveness.

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3. News & Banter

Timestamps: [24:07-29:28]

• Bear Attacks in Alaska:

  • Lighthearted discussion of a recent incident involving Army soldiers and brown bears, followed by reader mail from an Alaskan resident suggesting a recurring “bear report.” [24:17-26:03]

• Rumors & News Stories:

  • Explores rumors of missing scientists (whether it’s a real story or internet rumor).
  • Media commentary on Tucker Carlson’s recent remarks about Trump and Israel, and his curious praise for Sharia law and interest in moving to Qatar.
  • Joe Getty: “Trump just said… if an Iran deal is not signed by now, Wednesday evening, we will blow up every single power plant and bridge in Iran, which is a heck of a threat.” [29:51]

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4. The State and Value of Higher Education

Timestamps: [30:06-36:37]

• Students Speeding Through Online Degrees:

  • Wall Street Journal piece prompts discussion about people completing bachelor’s and graduate degrees in months, never setting foot on campus.
  • Joe Getty: “This person I know… did their degree in a very short amount of time… It was shocking.” [31:46]

• Grade Inflation and Rigor:

  • Debate over how much of a “scam” this trend is versus just efficiency.
  • Critique of college as a “resort where you occasionally go to informational lectures.”
  • Commentary on Yale Law School’s efforts to reform grade inflation (moving averages from A to B), widespread A grades, and the loss of institutional prestige.
  • Jack Armstrong: “In its current incarnation, it’s in its dying days. I hope it reforms itself.” [34:58]

• Collapse of College Prestige:

  • Doubts about the meaning of elite diplomas in contemporary society.
  • Joe Getty: “I hear you went to Harvard… means zero to me until I have conversations with you and determine your level of intelligence.” [36:20]

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5. Mailbag & Light Conversation

Timestamps: [42:03-46:16]

• Freedom-Loving Quote of the Day:

  • Karl Popper: “The enemies of freedom have always charged its defenders with subversion and nearly always they've succeeded in persuading the guileless and well meaning.” [42:03]

• Listener Mail:

  • Listeners discuss bird intelligence, befriending crows, and (jokingly) pot and Nazi history on April 20th.

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Notable Quotes

• “We get the leaders, public servants we deserve because our politics are perverse.”
  — Jack Armstrong [04:41]

• “Anything that can be reduced to a series of steps… is going to be routinized and become really, really cheap, really fast and really ubiquitous. We've never lived in a world where 22-year-olds couldn't assume the work they did… would last until death or retirement. And we're never going to have that world again.”
  — Ben Sasse (clip) [06:23]

• “Our national political dysfunction is an echo of larger problems.”
  — Ben Sasse (clip) [08:44]

• “Personality cults aren’t conservative. Conspiracy theories aren’t conservative. Lying that an election has been stolen, it’s not conservative. Acting like politics is a religion, it isn’t conservative.”
  — Ben Sasse (clip) [10:12]

• “It is absolutely terrible, and not the way it was designed.”
  — Joe Getty [12:14]

• “We are the most comfortable, least aware superpower that’s ever existed on earth.”
  — Jack Armstrong [18:34]

• “Not the least bit impressed… In fact makes me less likely to think much of you.”
  — Jack Armstrong, on hearing someone attended Harvard in the modern era [36:37]

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Memorable Moments

• Emotional Reflection on Sasse’s Illness:
  Armstrong and Getty are visibly moved discussing Ben Sasse contemplating not being there for his children due to his terminal diagnosis. [13:05-13:39]

• Elsa Johnson’s Courage:
  Sincere admiration for a Stanford student targeted by Chinese agents—her bravery stands out as a highlight. [17:06-18:14]

• Comedic ‘Bear Report’ Discussion:
  Viewers suggest a weekly Alaska Bear Report, as the hosts riff on bear attacks and “criminal bears” in both AK and CA. [24:47-26:03]

• Skepticism About Higher Ed:
  The hosts' growing weariness with the lack of rigor and utility in modern college degrees shines through, with biting asides about everyone getting A's and colleges as “resorts.” [34:19-36:20]

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Important Timestamps

• Ben Sasse on facing mortality & big questions: [05:15-06:18]
• Digital revolution and the future of work: [06:23-07:09]
• Tribalism and the fraying of community: [08:08-09:18]
• Republicanism vs. Personality Cults: [10:12]
• Modern politics as “pastime” and “entertainment”: [12:00-12:27]
• Stanford student recounts Chinese espionage: [15:47-19:26]
• Bear attacks and listener’s Alaskan mail: [24:17-26:03]
• Rapid online degrees & grade inflation: [30:06-36:20]
• Karl Popper quote & mailbag: [42:03-44:49]

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Tone

The conversation maintains Armstrong & Getty’s classic blend of sharp skepticism, deadpan wit, and earnest concern for the structural health of American society. Political commentary is delivered frankly, but with room for emotional gravity (as in the Sasse reflections) and typical banter/light-heartedness (as in the bear stories and college jokes).

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For Further Listening

• The show recommends watching Ben Sasse’s full 60 Minutes interview for its philosophical and personal insights on living and dying well.
• For those interested in the themes of foreign influence, follow up on Chinese espionage in academia.
• The hosts plan to discuss reform efforts at elite institutions like Yale Law in future episodes.

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Summary

This hour features a nuanced, reflective conversation on the nature of politics, the digital transformation of work, the value of community, principled dissenters like Ben Sasse, real-world threats from foreign adversaries, and the waning prestige of American higher ed—all underpinned by the Armstrong & Getty Show’s trademark candor and humor.

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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

It's Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, indeed. And you have a unique and special opportunity that's a little redundant anyway to enjoy a carefully curated selection of Armstrong and Getty replays. Enjoy.

[Joe Getty]

Ben Sass. I, I wish I'd known the guy. He's a, he's still alive, but he is dying of cancer and he's a small town Nebraska guy. I'm a small town Kansas guy and I just, I wish I had known him because he's absolutely amazing. He is. He is like what I picture the founding fathers were probably like if you listen to them talk.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, he'd have made a good founding father, I think.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well said. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And super smart guy too. Good for politics. I just, I was watching the interview last night and I've thought this many times. I've listened to interviews with them, I've read stuff and we talk to them. It's just like, why can't we have more people like this in our politics? Because they won't take the job, I guess, most of the time. Or they won't say the things you need to say to get elected.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think it comes down to what does getting into politics reward and what does it punish? And we get the leaders, public servants we deserve because our politics are perverse.

[Joe Getty]

I retweeted the Ben sasse interview from 60 Minutes last night saying everybody should watch it. Sarah Isger, who I really like, said, haven't seen a conversation like this intellectual, philosophical, big picture on TV in decades. It's incredible. I would agree it was incredible. Let's listen to some of it. Here's Ben Sasse who's dying of pancreatic cancer on 60 Minutes last night.

[Ben Sasse (clip)]

I love America. And I think there's a lot of big and meaty things that we should have been talking about and we still can talk about. And having a terminal diagnosis isn't really that unique. We're all always on the clock. Some of us have the benefit, maybe it's a weird word, but the benefit of knowing our time is finite and defined and it becomes an opportunity to talk about bigger stuff. And you have focus from that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Ben Sasse (clip)]

I mean, it's weird to be in your early 50s and get a terminal diagnosis and people all of a sudden act like you're 93 or 94 and you have a lot of wisdom. I don't know that I have a lot of wisdom, but I have a lot of things that I think we should be reflecting on together.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, and he lays out some of them right here.

[Ben Sasse (clip)]

Neither of these parties really have very big or good ideas about 2030 or 2050. At a national security level, at a future of work level, at an institution building level. The Congress is not wrestling with big or important questions right now.

[Joe Getty]

If Congress is looking at the wrong things, what is it missing?

[Ben Sasse (clip)]

We are living through a digital revolution, which is both glorious and horrific at the same time. Because what the digital revolution does is it accelerates almost everything about the human experience. Anything that can be reduced to a series of steps, which is most economic activity, is going to be routinized and become really, really cheap, really fast and really ubiquitous. We've never lived in a world where 22 year olds couldn't assume that the work they did they would be able to do until death or retirement. And we're never going to have that world again. And Congress doesn't talk about any of those kind of most fundamental issues. The disruption of work, for good and for ill, should be front and central. Congress doesn't even know how to have that conversation.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's an enormous conversation. And the small l libertarian in me is concerned that Congress will respond by passing gigantic, expensive government programs that will be rife with bloat and fraud. I had another point I was gonna make. It was actually more positive than that. Oh, but there should be thinking. Or the storm hits in the same way that a lot of the world health organizations and our health organizations thought a lot about. What if there was a giant pandemic? How should we handle it? Then when it hit, they panicked and didn't do any of the things they said they were going to do, which they should have stuck with but a little planning a little if this then that I think it'd be really helpful before the AI, you know, ending work as we know it thing really manifests.

[Joe Getty]

Let's start down the road of Ben Sasse talking about the role politics should play in our lives. What makes you a Republican?

[Ben Sasse (clip)]

I'm a Republican because I think the Lincoln Reagan continuum does the best job of building constraint on thinking. Washington is our fundamental political community. I think your fundamental political community is your neighborhood and your city hall and maybe even your state legislature. And right now we are sacrificing a lot of our national politics to weird folks who want their main community to be their political tribe at a federal level. And that should be like the ninth thing or the 15th thing you care about, not the first or second thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would agree.

[Joe Getty]

Weird folks. He goes on.

[Ben Sasse (clip)]

It's no secret that the current president and I wrestled on lots and lots of issues, but I don't spend much time commenting on our current politics because I don't really think our current politics are driving, driving what's happening. I think it's mostly an echo of what's happening. I think we have really thin, shallow community right now, and unless people know the thickness of their local community, it's hard to make sense of what national politics are for. I think our national political dysfunction is an echo of larger problems.

[Joe Getty]

That's troubling and correct, I believe, and correct and going to be hard to fix in the Internet era.

[Jack Armstrong]

Thin, shallow connections to our communities. That sounds about right.

[Joe Getty]

And feeling like really, really strong connection to whoever is president at the moment.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. And the two camps becoming more and more quasi religious too, in various ways.

[Joe Getty]

He got asked about what's conservative or not. Oh, actually this is a clip they played from. So Ben Sasse was one of the yes votes to remove Trump from office after January 6th. He was one of the Republicans that voted yes. Was there a total of six or seven?

[Jack Armstrong]

Seven, I believe. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

He voted yes to remove him and he had to explain to his Nebraska voters why he didn't think a lot of the stuff Trump did was conservative. Here's some of that.

[Ben Sasse (clip)]

Personality cults aren't conservative. Conspiracy theories aren't conservative. Lying that an election has been stolen, it's not conservative. Acting like politics is a religion, it isn't conservative.

[Joe Getty]

So I turned some of you off, I'm sure. And then more importantly to me, this conversation about, again, people, the weird people that want to be in national office. Many senators I know would not be able to breathe without that job. It would kill them to leave.

[Ben Sasse (clip)]

I don't want what you said to be true, but I fear that that is true, and that is a sign of a much, much deeper problem. We got a lot of people who serve in government who really do think the highest and greatest thing you can ever do is have the title senator or congressman. The best thing you can do is be called dad or mom, Love her, neighbor, friend, governor, senator, house member. It's a great way to serve. It should be your 11th calling or maybe sixth, but never top.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

What do you do when your national sport is federal politics and your quasi religion is federal politics? And I could probably come up with a couple more metaphors because it's morphed into this weird way beyond what politics

[Joe Getty]

ever has been thing. Yeah. So what did you. You said our national religion and.

[Jack Armstrong]

And sportstime. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Our national pastime. It's our number one TV show. The number one TV show in America.

[Jack Armstrong]

Isn't Cosby left out entertainment? Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Cosby or Seinfeld. It's what did Trump do today and how.

[Jack Armstrong]

What were the good, mean things said about him? Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

So it's. It is our pastime, our entertainment. We think the answer to all our problems comes out of Washington, D.C. and specifically the president. Yeah, it's. It's terrible. It is absolutely terrible, and not the way it was designed.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I agree with Ben Sasse that a lot of the current weirdness we have in politics are a reflection of that. Because again, later in the hour, we're gonna get to the casual embrace of, like, murderous violence on the left and some of the things that have been said recently, and you don't get there. That's not one step to get there. That's being way down a path that you suddenly embrace. Somebody who says, we need to have these people's bloods running. Blood running through the streets. We need to slaughter these people. People nodding their head. Yeah, right. The whole radical chic thing. I'm not sure where we go from here.

[Joe Getty]

We're not gonna play it here, but if you watch the interview, the. The last part of it is about him being a very. Ben Sass being a very devout Calvinist, Reformed church, Calvinist guy, and him talking about what that means to him and how he looks at death and dying through that lens and all that sort of stuff. And. And then, oh, my God, the stuff about not getting to walk his daughters down the aisle or being there for his son when he's 16, 18, 20. Oof.

[Jack Armstrong]

Trying to stay optimistic about that. Yeah, that was Very, very, very heavy and emotional.

[Joe Getty]

That was something.

[Jack Armstrong]

But

[Joe Getty]

is there, is there any way we can break out of this? In the Internet era? You don't raise money with interviews like that. As a politician.

[Jack Armstrong]

No. And I've got an extremely provocative philosophical question for you. Do we have time? Yes, we do. In a time where mobs are running wild in the streets, will a Ben Sass be heard? Can he be heard or, And I know a lot of my younger friends on the right would say, look, I agree with him, but if the Ben Sasses of the world, the political pacifists will get absolutely bulldozed by the howling mobile, we've got to neutralize their howling mob with ours before we can even hope to have a sane conversation.

[Joe Getty]

Well, and he, and, and, and, and a Ben Sasse in most districts is not going to lose to a Democrat. You're going to get primaried on the right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

And get, and lose. Same same with anybody who tries to be anything like Ben Sasse as a Democrat. You're going to get primaried on the left by an AOC or somebody.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Public, if you can keep it talking

[Joe Getty]

about how evil capitalism and how Trump's Hitler. So yeah, I don't know how we break out of that. Couldn't recommend that interview with Ben Sasse. Even if you ignore the government stuff and just do the child rearing, how you face death stuff, because it's really good.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Elsa Johnson]

A man calling himself Charles Chen reached out to me on social media over the following weeks. He asked detailed questions about my background, offered to pay for a trip to China, sent me a flight itinerary to Shanghai, and pressured me to move our conversation to WeChat, an app that is monitored by the CCP.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a young woman by the name of Elsa Johnson. She is a Stanford University student testifying to something, a story that we brought you a number of months ago about how she was actively recruited by Chinese spies who are looking for more Stanford students and scientists and research assistants to, you know, do work for the Communist Chinese. I am struck by the fact that that was on CBS News. And for all of the idiotic yelling about when Barry Weiss took over as whatever executive editor, the Just horrifically ridiculous muling by the far lefties. It's obvious to me what Barry is doing. She's saying, that's a huge story.

[Joe Getty]

Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

We're gonna cover it to stuff that is obviously a huge story that ought to be covered. Like hundreds of Communists at no Kings rallies, for instance. That would be lovely, wouldn't it? Anyway, Ms. Johnson goes on to discuss how the Communist Chinese agent attempted to put his hooks in her.

[Elsa Johnson]

He publicly commented on one of my Instagram posts in Mandarin, asking me to delete screenshots I had taken of our conversation. I do not know how he knew I had these screenshots.

[Jack Armstrong]

Who?

[Elsa Johnson]

The FBI confirmed he had no affiliation with Stanford. He was likely operating on behalf of China's Ministry of State Security. I was one of at least 10 female students he targeted since 2020. After my co author, Garrett Malloy, and I published our investigation, the incidents worsened. I began receiving intimidation calls where callers would switch to Mandarin. And in one case, the caller referenced my mother. Just this week, I received another call from US Number. After exchanging hellos, the caller switched to Mandarin and asked whether I had finished dinner. I have also received threatening scam emails attempting to convince me to take down my reporting on this issue.

[Joe Getty]

That stuff about get rid of your screenshots. I have no idea how they knew I had screenshots or did you finish dinner? Which I assume is.

[Jack Armstrong]

She was eating dinner at the time.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, they're just to let you know we're got an eye on you right now, which would be showing this sort

[Jack Armstrong]

of thing happens hundreds of times, certainly a week or a month in the US Especially on university campuses, which are teeming with Chinese nationals or Chinese Americans who have family back in the homeland, therefore have, you know, points of leverage against them. Yeah. She is an incredibly brave young woman, by the way. I salute her. It's just one more example of how we are the most comfortable, least aware superpower that's ever existed on earth. We just don't protect ourselves.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, man. It'd be.

[Jack Armstrong]

In fact, a lot of us hate ourselves.

[Joe Getty]

It'd be so easy to just, you know, copy some documents from whatever department you're in at the university and send them to whatever email address you're supposed to, just to avoid the. Whatever they might do to your family back home. You think, what, What. What good is this stuff from the college gonna do? It's no big deal. It's not like they're nuclear secrets or something like that. And yeah. To be so easy to go along with that stuff.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah, this gal, she was,

[Ben Sasse (clip)]

she was

[Jack Armstrong]

just reporting on what China was doing on campus, trying to recruit students. And so she wasn't even like a target for recruitment. She was somebody who was talking about it. And then she bashed Stanford for failing to help her deal with the alleged foreign espionage, saying that she was quote, a freshman navigating a foreign intelligence operation with no institutional support. Oh my God. So she ultimately the Hoover Institution, which is the conservative leaning think tank that operates on Stanford's campus as like a weird, it's almost like East Germany back in the day, if you remember that it was this outpost of, in this case, sanity. In the midst of the insanity of Stanford, the university told her, yeah, we can't help you early. And the Hoover Institution said, wait, what is happening? We'll help you. We're going to connect you with the FBI and get you some good advice and some good protection. Way to, way to go Hoover Institution. Then the spokes hole for the ridiculous Stanford that quote, the university takes any allegations of undue foreign influence seriously and has robust policies and procedures to protect students. Okay, I don't know what to tell you other than what we've told you many times before. China is actively trying to bring us down and a lot of American society doesn't really care. China is in short. Yes sir, that's correct. The Armstrong and Getty Show. Get more Jack, more Joe podcasts and

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[Jack Armstrong]

The Armstrong and Getty Show. Two army soldiers are in the hospital

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stating the soldiers were participating in a land navigation training exercise on Friday at Joint Base Elmendorf Richardson when they encountered

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[Jack Armstrong]

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responded to the incident determining it appears to be a defensive attack by a bear recently emerged from a den.

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And initial reports identified the involved animal

[Jack Armstrong]

as a brown bear. Wow. Soft on bear crime. That's what I say. Damn progressives.

[Joe Getty]

You join the military, you don't think about being injured by a bear.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, indeed. Yeah. That's terrible. I'm glad the guys are well. They're certainly going to survive, although God knows what sort of injuries they have. We got this note from Eric in Bald Mound, Illinois number one, Eric Bald Mound needs to hold a vote like this week to get a better name. Wow. What I mean like virtually anything would be a better name anyway. Eric says, I lived in Anchorage for 31 years. There are many bear encounters every year. You should have an Alaska bear report weekly or monthly. That's a compelling idea. We'll consider it. And he sends along this headline report bear injured woman's backside while she was using an outhouse near Haines, Alaska. Literally bit on the ass as she attempted to use an outhouse and his ill treatment. Second bear related story on the show today, by the way, if you've listened to the whole thing includes some would be criminal geniuses in Southern California vandalizing cars while wearing a bear suit. Back to you.

[Joe Getty]

Have an Iran update for you in a second. There's a little confusion going on. Nobody's exactly sure what's happening. But are you following the whole missing scientist story?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, kind of tangent.

[Joe Getty]

Is it real?

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know. Yeah, I think the guy wandered off, but I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

No, there's 10 missing scientists.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh wow.

[Joe Getty]

The news coverage is about at least 10 scientists or research linked figures that have been cited as either are missing or recently died in mysterious circumstances. The story has spread quickly because several of the cases involve sensitive government or defense adjacent work. I can't figure out if this is like an Internet BS story or a real story. Fox was just talking about it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I, the last time I read about it I thought, oh, this is Internet bs. If you take the entire world of government science and okay, the rest of it and a bunch of guys who are older, certain numbers are gonna die and you know, who knows, Maybe I'm a fool. I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

I could see how you could put that together and make it, make it work though.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, do it with like ex major league ball players next, right?

[Joe Getty]

Exactly, exactly. I was watching a highlight from Tucker Carlson over the weekend where he was talking about he said, and I quote, I feel sorry for Trump as I do for all slaves. He's talking about how Trump is a slave to the Israeli's needs and wants.

[Jack Armstrong]

Of course. Yeah. The Jews.

[Joe Getty]

I feel sorry for Trump as I do for all slaves. They can't possibly be friends anymore, can they?

[Ben Sasse (clip)]

No.

[Joe Getty]

Tucker. And Trump.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, Trump has said he's essentially. He's dead to me.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I can understand why. So here we.

[Jack Armstrong]

Tucker, are you still. Are you moving off Tucker?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I was going to. You have more.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because evidently he's repeatedly lately repeatedly taken appraising Sharia law and suggesting that Islam and its totalitarian legal code offer an inspiring moral clarity in contrast with today's Western decadence. Even announced his attention to buy a house in Qatar, which he should because there is employer more on this another time.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I don't know what's going on there. So there are conflicting reports on what's happening on with the, with the whole ceasefire, Iran blowing up all their bridges and power plants thing. CNN has said that talks are set for tomorrow, contradicting reports from the New York Post and others are that the US Delegation led by Vice President JD Vance is set to land in Pakistan today for talks. Trump just said on one of the TV channels that Wednesday evening is the new deadline. According to Reuters, citing a senior Iranian official, Iran is considering attending the talks in Islamabad as Pakistani mediators work to end the U.S. blockade of the Strait of Hormuz. That's the first I've heard of any Iranian officials showing up at all. Although that might be as we were talking about earlier, the politicians and not anybody from the Revolutionary Guard, who it would seem is actually in charge of whether or not the strait opens or not.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. I could conceive of maybe the civilians, the politicians, as you put it, saying, hey, look, here's the deal. We can't get anything past the irgc. Here's how you bring them to their knees. You do that for us, we'll cut you a deal. I could conceive of that happening. I'm not saying it is, but that's the only way those guys have any influence in anything. They don't have the guns. They don't have as many guns.

[Joe Getty]

And again, to quote Donald Trump, he said if an Iran deal is not signed by now, Wednesday evening, we will blow up every single power plant and bridge in Iran, which is a heck of a threat. And maybe he means it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, we'll keep our eye on this. Different story. Came across this headline over the weekend. And I know somebody personally who has done this headline in the Wall Street Journal was, students are speeding through their online degrees in weeks. Alarming educators.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is so funny. Judy and I had a long drive back and forth yesterday. I'll tell you about it more later. But we saw some billboards for a university or college that I'd never heard of. And I'm like. And often when we do that, Judy will like Google it and we'll read about it together. And it was an online university. Well, and I was thinking, what would it take to get, I don't know, maybe I'd get a degree.

[Joe Getty]

That's, that's interesting. That's not what we're talking about. We're talking about the online classes you can take at regular universities. The person I know, for instance, I'm not going to mention the university because I don't want to get this person involved. But it's one of your big universities you've heard of. They have a very well known basketball team and compete with a big university. This person I know who is graduating here in a couple of weeks is going to attend the graduation. They've never set foot in the state, let alone on this campus. They did their degree in a very short amount of time. It was shocking to me how they were done already. It said this particular article in the Wall Street Journal was, it takes most college students who are at the campuses at least four years to earn a bachelor's degree. This person that they quoted finished in three months. Yes, the person I know, I don't think it was three months, but it was, it was really short to finish

[Jack Armstrong]

a degree having never degree or, or advanced degree.

[Joe Getty]

This was an advanced degree, but it's still, and this one was still like a year and a half or two year program that they did in months. But in a graduate degree from a major university, having never set foot in the state, now is there, there's no reason why that can't be true if you're allowed to go at your own pace. From everything we've learned about colleges currently, where on average, I just read this the other day, on average, students attend 20 hours a week, I think, of classes. Right. That's including studying. Studying and attending classes 20 hours a week. Well then if you wanted to kick ass and do like 40 hours a week, or maybe even 60 since you might not have a job and wanted to really buckle down. Yeah, you could get down pretty fast.

[Jack Armstrong]

This person, you know, what was their situation roughly? Did they have lots of time to devote to it or. Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out how. How much of a, like, blow off easy scam this is and how much. It's just a question of applying yourself on your own schedule because those are two very different things.

[Joe Getty]

I have no idea how hard it is. Although from everything I read, a lot of these degrees are not very hard.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, it'd be hilarious because my daughter. Actually, the reason we drove back and forth is Judy announced that she was going to drive the two and a half hours ish. To where Delaney's going to law and just have lunch with her and give her a little support as she goes into finals. And I canceled my golf game. Well, I found a pinch hitter and I can't believe I almost didn't do this and went with her. And we had a wonderful day and gave her some rah rah, we believe in you, blah, big hugs, blah, blah. It was wonderful. Great to see her too. Anyway, how funny would it be as she is just about to finish her second year of law school, if I got my law degree before she did? Sorry, honey, the. Well, I. I almost said the College of St Martin in the Caribbean has awarded me a Doctor of jurors, but you're saying this is a legit unit?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't. I don't think the issue is here that this article was not about offline online. No, this is about regular colleges that offer their online stuff. And because you could do it at your own pace, you could just get done really, really fast. What it gets to is the lack of rigor in, you know, current degrees. It's just not very much work and not very hard. And they're dragging it out over four years so they can charge you for eight semesters or whatever and make so much money.

[Jack Armstrong]

But it's a resort where you occasionally go to informational lectures. Right? That's what college is now.

[Joe Getty]

Occasionally, if you want to. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And everybody gets an A.

[Joe Getty]

And everybody gets an A. Exactly Right. They've done this to themselves. They've completely blown up their whole thing. It's in the.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's.

[Joe Getty]

It's gotta be in the dying days of anybody having any respect for this whole system. It's gotta be.

[Jack Armstrong]

Unless it does some serious reforming of itself, which they're trying. I want to talk to tomorrow about Yale's law school and how they've realized, oh, people are mocking us and we suck and we probably ought to do something about it.

[Joe Getty]

Well, that's what I meant. In its current incarnation it's in its dying days. I, I hope it reforms itself. If, if my kids go to college and we pay, first of all, the prices need to come down. Secondly, you need to actually learn stuff. It needs to be challenging and you need to come out like with knowledge about something. We've talked about that before. There are all kinds of studies that show that people come out of college with no more knowledge than they had going in.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. They're just poor and up their earlobes in debt.

[Joe Getty]

God, we're so fat and soft and check it. And it's just amazing.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know I am. Yeah. I mean one of the reforms that Yale is trying to get going, this is in, until recently, the number one law school in America is they are trying to move the median grade average. Right. Your average grade. They're trying to move it from an A to a B. What are we doing here?

[Joe Getty]

No kidding.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my God. Oh boy.

[Joe Getty]

Well, certainly in the last. It started with the, whatever they call that scandal with finding out that kids got into with their fake rowing credentials and all this sort of thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

That didn't bother me at all. Compared to the DEI and the great inflation and the, and all the Mark Neil Marxist destruction.

[Joe Getty]

All that didn't bother me in the least. You combine it all though, and you, you blew up me. Me having. I hear you went to Harvard. Certainly if you went in the 2000s means zero to me until I have conversations with you and determine your level of intelligence.

[Jack Armstrong]

Not the least bit impressed. No, indeed.

[Joe Getty]

In fact makes me less likely to think much of you. Probably goes the other direction at this point. Boy, that's a, that's not good bang for your buck.

[Jack Armstrong]

We were asking AI earlier, what does an economy look like if there's no scarcity, if there's universal high income, how would it change? And it's fairly mind boggling. And the AI could just kind of. Well, nobody's really sure. Run the experiment. Hey, AI, what is a society that's so successful and prosperous and safe that it just completely loses its edge? What would that look like?

[Joe Getty]

You know, I would get one of those degrees, but I don't want to spend the money just to be able to make the funny comment that I have an art history master's from the University of Kentucky or whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was shocked how expensive it was to get an online like legit university law degree. It was damn near as expensive as going there.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, we can do it pretty fast, apparently. Interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you work at it. Let's be realistic.

[Joe Getty]

I don't want to do that.

[Jack Armstrong]

There's how much reading. What?

[Joe Getty]

I have anxiety so I need extra

[Jack Armstrong]

time on the test.

[Joe Getty]

I shouldn't have to do the reading.

[Jack Armstrong]

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is Jacob Goldstein from what's yous Problem? Business software is expensive and when you buy software from lots of different companies, it's not only expensive, it gets confusing. Slow to use, hard to integrate. Odoo solves that because all Odoo software is connected on a single affordable platform. Save money without missing out on the features you need. Odoo has no hidden costs and no limit on features or data. Odoo has over 60 apps available for any needs your business might have, all at no additional charge. Everything from websites to sales to inventory to accounting. All linked and talking to each other. Check out Odoo at o d o o.com that's o d o o.com when

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[Jack Armstrong]

The Armstrong and Getty show here's your freedom loving quote of the day. Continuing on. I think we started this the other day. Quotes from Carl Popper. Dr. Joe and Reno sent these along and I appreciate it. There was some really good stuff here. The enemies of freedom have always charged its defenders with subversion and nearly always they've succeeded in persuading the guileless and well meaning. It's very much what's happening on today's school campuses. You know, defenders of freedom are the racists and the bigots and the homophobes and whatever else that's not free speech. That's hate speech. Yeah, yeah. Well said, the great Karl Popper. Mailbag. Continue on with that series. Little brain food for you to chew on, huh?

[Joe Getty]

Brain food for a Monday. I don't know if I can handle it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Drop us a note, would you please? [e-mail] hey guys. The curse. I can't read that. Thanks, Crystal and Reno. It's way too complimentary.

[Elsa Johnson]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's just.

[Joe Getty]

We read all the hate stuff.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why can't we get something from somebody who likes us?

[Joe Getty]

I know.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's really nice. A lot of you good people write really nice things. We see them, we comprehend them. I can't answer all of them. Thank you for your kindness. Everybody's a grifter. Everything's clickbait right now in the world. We try not to be either. Some of you who are like way out in the ideological spectrum may accuse us being. But we're not.

[Joe Getty]

I hope you like that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Perhaps you'll recommend the show to a friend. To the Duckmaster from the crow whisperer, Kevin the Texas Marine, with some congratulations to Duckmaster Jack for what my co workers have called the crow whisperer. That would be Kevin himself. Befriending birds can be fun. I've made friends with crows at my work. One will hang out on my toolbox and talk to me. A couple of my co workers mocked me for it. Yet now leave food for them as well. Crows are amazing.

[Joe Getty]

They have.

[Jack Armstrong]

Their communications networks are extensive and their memories last for years and years and years.

[Joe Getty]

My son Henry told me the other day, he said because we saw a crow. He said a crow is as smart

[Jack Armstrong]

as a seven year old. Yeah, okay. They will absolutely remember anybody who menaces them. Or I've heard that offering them a shiny object in the springtime, much like a meth head. You offer a crow some like shiny like tinsely stuff or something for their nest. They will remember you as a friend and somebody who is kind to them. So I got to try that sounds kind of cool.

[Joe Getty]

That always reminds me of one of my favorite jokes. The crows seem to be calling his name.

[Jack Armstrong]

Thought Kaw. I love that. Just realize you may have made friends for multi generational animal lives. Can't speak for ducks, but crows and ravens teach their offspring. Who's a good person, who's bad. Hope Henry appreciates this since my neighbor who fed ducks a couple years ago now has several. Every early spring, am I going to

[Joe Getty]

be running from flocks of ducks though?

[Jack Armstrong]

That being said, anyone willing to Save a random animal's life is good person. Update your dating profile with pics in that bid. Thank you, Kevin, the Texas Marine. Jared, on the other hand, says make sure to remind Jack to tell Hitler happy birthday today. It's his actual birthday, right? 4:20.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that's right.

[Jack Armstrong]

All you stoners and Neo Nazis or old school Nazis. Right, right. What pot actually does to your brain. Later on in the show, more and more studies coming out. Yeah, yeah, we were talking about. I was talking about how the auto fill in Google gave me a really, really weird result the other day. I was asking about what do you call someone who is attracted or. But I just said what do you call someone who is. And it said attracted to robots. Like, wait a minute, what the hell? I was like, I meant like a doctor who treats the foot. I was looking for a podiatrist and he gave me that. And, and, and Robert, my wife recently informed me that the prompts for potential searches that come up are evidently tied to your previous searching and browsing history. Similar to YouTube. Suggestions?

[Joe Getty]

That's interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

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