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Jack Armstrong
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Bobby Bowens
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Colby Ekowitz
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We've all done it. You see a headline but don't have time to read the whole story. Or there's so much news you're not sure what is worth your time. I'm Colby Ekowitz, co host of Post Reports, the weekday afternoon podcast from the Washington Post. Post Reports brings you what's Relevant and revealing breaking stories, Politics, wellness, culture. Each episode goes beyond a headline for the context you need. Find Post Reports now wherever you're listening.
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Jack Armstrong
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln RAD Radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
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Joe Getty
Armstrong and Getty. And now he's Armstrong and Yeti.
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Unknown
So Chuck Schumer was on the View yesterday. He's making the rounds because he's got this book out which I actually heard a little bit about. I'm glad he wrote it. And it's kind of interesting. He's worried about the rise of anti Semitism in the United States, including in his own party, among your college kids. And he's out talking about it.
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Joe Getty
So that's kind of cool.
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Unknown
Chuck Schumer is an ancient Democratic senator from New York who has been majority leader in the Senate at various times. Now he's the minority leader.
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Joe Getty
He is the king of the Senate on the Democrat side.
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Unknown
So he got some blowback last week because he went along with the Republican legislation that kept the government open. And the AOCs of the world, that wing Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, those people wanted to shut down the government. Chuck Schumer said there was no win in it. And Nancy Pelosi yesterday said she kind of hit him with a little. She still supports him, but I don't believe in giving something away for nothing. She said after that in that Chuck went along with it but didn't get anything, which is true. Nancy Pelosi was good at that. Trump's good at that. If you're going to get something from me, I'm going to get something from you. Always.
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Joe Getty
If only they knew what they wanted.
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Unknown
Really. Maybe that's a problem.
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Joe Getty
They're so scattered.
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Unknown
Anyway, didn't mean to talk about that. So he's on the View and he said something that really bothered me.
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So we'll start here, the Republican Party.
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I don't want that yet. We're going to start with, remember Jerry Brown? So we're going to start here. This, this goes back to the governor of California a few years back. Four term governor. He was the youngest governor of California for two terms. Then he was the oldest governor in California for two arms. He did date a young Linda Ronstadt.
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Joe Getty
Which is a feather in his cap.
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Unknown
You can't take that away from. Yeah, but he once said this about the way economics works.
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Joe Getty
I guess those who have been blessed the most, who have disproportionately extracted by whatever skill more and more from the national wealth, they're going to have to share.
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Unknown
More of that is on the idea of paying taxes that those who have disproportionately extracted from the economy more from the national wealth. From the national wealth.
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Joe Getty
So success is taking money from the nation. It's not creating jobs and money and products and greater wealth for everyone. No, it's a limited pie. And you took more than your share by building a successful business.
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Unknown
Well, and it's not yours, it's the nation's. And the steward of that money is the government, which we get to here with Chuck Schumer on the View when he said this yesterday.
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The Republican Party is a different kettle of fish than it used to be. And that's why we're fighting them so hard. They are controlled by a small group of wealthy, greedy people. And you know what their attitude is? I made my money all by myself. How dare your government take my money from me? I don't want to pay taxes. Or I built my company with my bare hands. How dare your government tell me how I should treat my customers. My. The land and water that I own or my employees. They hate government. Government's a barrier to people, a barrier to stop them from doing things. They want to destroy it. We are not letting them do it. And we're united.
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So again, if you missed that in there, these greedy people who make money, who want to keep more of their money, their attitude is, I made my money all by myself. How dare your government take my money from me?
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Joe Getty
Yeah, well summarized.
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Unknown
And so that's an interesting philosophical breakdown. I know, I know people personally who believe that and think that way, that you're out there going to work making money, I guess, for the government. It runs through the government, and then you get to keep some of it, but it's the government's money to spend on, you know, good things that make everybody better or happier or something like that.
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Joe Getty
And other people will, through the government, take your money from you as much as they decide is proper, and they will let you keep some of it, perhaps, as the great Thomas Sowell said so famously. I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned, but not greed to want to take someone else's money.
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Unknown
I found that absolutely fascinating. I mean, that that is some big time philosophical disagreement on the structure of society. Yes.
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Joe Getty
And I would love to reduce our politics now and again. Maybe we could have one week a year where we have learned folks of, you know, each side's choosing debate in front of the nation. The notion of either a what you earn is yours. Now we the people ask you for a little bit of it to help run the country.
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Unknown
Roads, police, army, etc. Etc.
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Joe Getty
But indeed we have passed laws saying the government gets a little bit of it to run itself versus the folks who say no, the government gets all of it. If we decide to take all of it. It's not your money at all. It never has been. That goes back and then I would love. Then in the follow up part my side would, would say, well then why the hell would anybody bust their ass to build a business if y'all are going to take it all or half.
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Unknown
Of it, which is why socialism doesn't work. Should have dug up the Barack Obama clip, the famous one that he got beat up for a fair amount by anybody on the right. Anyway, you didn't build that. It's the idea that government has put in place a structure for you to go out and be successful. And so you owe that money to the government because they, they have, they, they put all this together for you to be successful. The government is the reason you're successful. That's what Chuck Schumer is saying.
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Joe Getty
Building a business with 500 employees is like falling off a log thanks to the government. So we get most of it.
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Unknown
I mean, he used his mocking voice when he said, I made my money all by myself. How dare your government take my money from me. Okay, I'll say the same thing in my regular voice. I made my money all by myself. How dare the freaking government take it from me. There, I said it without the mocking voice. Cuz that's what I actually believe.
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Joe Getty
I understand how a leech on the public like Chuck Schumer, who like, you know, Joe Biden or a thousand other politicians on both sides of the aisle have made their wealth and their power purely from draining the vital fluids of the American people. How product, actual production is foreign to them. I'd love to have Mark Wayne Mullen talk to Chuck Schumer about that. Mark Wayne Mullen, who built a, he was a plumber. He built a plumbing contracting business in Oklahoma, became he's a senator now for Oklahoma. If you don't know, Mark Wayne talked to him at the rnc. It was great fun and very interesting. But have him discuss with Chuck Schumer what it takes to build a business as opposed to just, you know, again, being a parasite on the hide of the American people.
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Unknown
That's something, I mean that, that I find that highly troubling that that attitude even exists out there. Let alone could win the day.
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Joe Getty
Well, yeah, the fact that Chuck Schumer promotes it is not that shocking to me. The fact that tens of millions, hundred, 150 million Americans think the same way. Now that bothers me.
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Unknown
I made my money all by myself. How dare your government take my money from me. I don't want to pay taxes.
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Yeah, you don't have to use the cartoonish voice. That's what I actually believe. Me and me and lots of people.
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Joe Getty
And I think virtually nobody says I don't want to have to pay taxes. No, I don't want to have to pay excessive taxes that are purely a redistribution of wealth to gain you power. Because I know with 100% certainty that's what you do. You make moral arguments and compassionate arguments to get giant gobs of money to enhance your own power and influence.
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Unknown
First of all, if you keep your money, sometimes people do things that are really good for society. You know, build a rocket company or, or charity or whatever it is. But what if you just go out and buy expensive houses and cars if you're super wealthy? For what? For whatever reason. It's Kenzian. When the government spreads money around because it's just good spending money. But if an individual spends money, it's not Kenzie and not good for the.
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Joe Getty
Economy, I don't know, is fine with me. Signed everybody who worked on building that house and, or car and. Or services it and. Or fixes house or whatever or runs.
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Unknown
The restaurant and has employees.
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Joe Getty
My final note on this topic will be something I've said many times through the years and will continue to. If you will allow me, you good people, imagine a charity that can feed, clothe, house, medicate and educate thousands of children. Thousands of children. That charity is called a business with employees who get pay and benefits. You have accomplished all those things I described by starting a successful business. They don't see it that way. On the left.
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Unknown
I made my money all by myself. How dare your government take my money from me. I don't want to pay taxes.
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True. That is true.
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Joe Getty
If this were not being broadcast live, I have a simple two word response that rhymes with duck poo.
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Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty. The Armstrong and Getty Show.
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Unknown
So when you think about these businesses and a 145% tariff being put on them, it's untenable for them. They don't have the cash flow, they.
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Joe Getty
Don'T have the access to capital and.
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Unknown
It'S basically locking up production in the toy industry. No toys are currently being produced in China and there are Reports that major retailers here in the US Are starting to actually cancel orders. So. So Christmas is at risk. That's some economic expert on CNN yesterday on the lead. Christmas is at risk. Toy companies can't handle the 145% tariff. At some point, the rubber is going to meet the road on this, isn't it? I mean, we all were relieved, I guess, to find out iPhones aren't going to triple in price. But there is all the other stuff. Right.
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Joe Getty
You know, part of me wants to urge that guy to watch how the Grinch Stole Christmas Christmas and be reminded that it came, it came, it came without boxes and bottles and bags. The rest of it. Yeah, Christmas isn't at risk. But he was talking about toy retailers. So I get that, you know, the ready, fire, aim nature of the tariffs is, I think, going to be counterproductive, although I suspect it's just going to lead to better trade deals. But it was pointed out by some learned fol folks that if you're a giant multinational conglomerate with lobbyists and perhaps a Tim Cook who can pick up the phone and call Donald Trump, you get a carve out. But all the mom and pop businesses, all the small manufacturers, they don't. They're going to be, you know, put out of business.
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Unknown
Right.
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Joe Getty
Because they can't onshore their inputs fast enough, which is bankruptcy, which is the main.
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Unknown
From the right. Big critique of tariffs in general that it ends up being. I mean, you're like creating a reason for people to get special treatment or do things to get special treatment.
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Joe Getty
Right? Yeah. It enriches the swamp.
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Unknown
I was just texting with somebody who said they were about to do something, it doesn't matter what. And I said, you're brave, Gayle King brave. I wonder if that will catch on. It's like, wow, you're like Gail King brave there. Congratulations.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah. Oh, speaking of economic currents and, and stuff like that, there's a lot of talk of recession because of the, the tariffs and all and how it shakes out. Nobody knows exactly.
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Unknown
We might already be in one of many, according to many economists.
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Joe Getty
Well, that's right. And I came across this from the Wall Street Journal, which I thought was kind of a good reminder. What is a recession and how. When will we know if we are in one?
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Unknown
Okay.
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Joe Getty
Now, that common rule of thumb is that two consecutive quarters of declining gross product counts as a recession, unless if.
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Unknown
It'S during the Biden administration.
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Joe Getty
Right.
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Unknown
Then that doesn't count.
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Joe Getty
But the GDP is not the criterion used by the National Bureau of Economic Research, which is the long standing arbiter of US recessions among economists, government officials, policymakers and news organizations, including the Wall Street Journal. The NBER recession dates are determined by its prosaically named quote, Business Cycle Dating Committee, a group of eight academic, academic, economists, some of whom have been members of the committee for decades. What they look for in order to make a recession call is, quote, a significant decline in economic activity that is spread across the economy and lasts more than a few months.
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Unknown
What they watch Employment wishy washy.
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Joe Getty
Oh, it's very wishy washy, yeah. The main indicators they watch are employment, inflation adjusted personal income, real consumer spending, real manufacturing and trade industry sales and industrial production.
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Unknown
Well, that's interesting.
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Joe Getty
There's a Democrat in office.
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Unknown
Yeah, that's interesting. So it's a little bit of like, that's just your opinion, man. And I always remember a guy I knew ran his own business. He was a very successful. Ran his own business. And this was years ago, like mid-2005, I can remember, and him, him saying we're in a recession. And we weren't like officially in a recession. And he said we're in a recession. And I was like, wow, that's interesting that you just said that out loud when you know it hasn't been declared and in this case it ended up being declared the next quarter. He had already felt it, but I thought at the time, well, even if it's not for the rest of the United States, if it is for your industry here, that's all that matters to you. So this, this is kind of a stupid term. It's kind of like we always talk about when they give you a national real estate statistics. What's the point of that? More homes were sold last year than this year. Well, that's, I don't even know if that number is useful to anybody, but it's certainly not useful to your state, county, neighborhood or whatever.
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Joe Getty
My only argument against that would be that if your policies cause one, those policies should be reviewed and criticized.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Joe Getty
So it helps to be able to say in even a semi concrete way, hey, this isn't working, it's hurting the economy.
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Unknown
Right, but yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
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Joe Getty
But, but, but it's not, it's not what the media portrays it to be some sort of all encompassing, it's not a diagnosis with cancer, it's just okay, things are not growing economic or what's going on.
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Unknown
If your industry on the entire west coast is suffering because of something, the weather, whatever, you're in a recession every bit as much as if they declared a national recession. Yeah. So. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not sure that term means that much to me anymore. What you said makes sense. And again, they changed the definition of it or went with the specific definition of it when it applied to Joe Biden because by the definition we'd all been using our entire adult lives. We were in a recession, and they didn't want that to be true.
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Joe Getty
Right. Yep.
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Unknown
Whatevs.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, I know.
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Unknown
And I've lived through. I can't even tell you how many in my life. 10, 12. I don't know, 30. I don't even know. Which is part of my point. They come and go and we're all fine. And, you know, I don't want it to happen, but it's not like the end of the world.
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Joe Getty
Well, right. And there have been upsides. Like, I've gotten used to the taste of human flesh. There's been so much cannibalism during the recessions, you know, it's old hat for me. It's the other white meat, as far as I'm concerned.
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Jack Armstrong
The Armstrong and Getty Show.
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Joe Getty
Why should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand?
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Unknown
We're not boring. A lot of news is boring and.
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Joe Getty
Tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that.
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Unknown
Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty.
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Joe Getty
We're Armstrong and Getty.
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Unknown
We try to bring you the truth.
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Joe Getty
And help you figure out this crazy modern world.
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Colby Ekowitz
I know something about a comedic tone.
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Joe Getty
We have a winner. Yes.
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Unknown
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Joe Getty
Or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Jack Armstrong
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Jack Armstrong
The Armstrong and Getty show.
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Joe Getty
Thought this is interesting. If you're new to the show Jack and I both have railed long and hard against critical theory and dei. It's neo Marxism. We'll explain a little more about that. It masquerades quite successfully though as we just want everybody to get a fair shot in America. And a lot of people think DEI actually is just. We want more diversity. We want people to be able to apply for jobs and get them. No, everybody wants that. DEI is an insidious plot that that masquerades as civil rights. Having said that, the headline the Journal America is abandoning dei. The NFL remains all in. Everyone from the federal government does a Fortune 500 are dialing back diversity efforts, DEI efforts. But America's most popular sport is standing its ground. I'm not shocked by this. I don't like it.
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Unknown
I don't like the fact that journalism regularly fudges the difference between dei, which is a specific thing, and diversity acting like they're the same thing.
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Joe Getty
They don't know. I honestly believe the percentage of Americans who understand that DEI is part of critical theory comes from the Frankfurt school of philosophy. It's a method of taking over institutions. Essentially you call everybody a racist unless they agree with you. Perhaps you went to a delightful training session where this happened. And obviously if you're a racist, according to the nice people who are running your DEI department, you can't be in charge. And so they get rid of you and they bring in somebody who believes what they do, which is neo Marxism, equity, etc. DEI is Marxism. It's not diversity.
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Unknown
That reminds me, I read a great piece yesterday on how Ibram X Kendi is one of the great shysters of all time. Now that his, absolutely his run is over, I think had to shut down his anti racist institute. He got $50 million, I think in donations from companies. Never did anything.
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Joe Getty
No. People were falling all over themselves to give money. I'm not a racist. Don't call me a racist. Don't call me a racist. And you remember, no matter how you intended what you said, if I say you're a racist, you are a racist. It's a method of capture, of taking over institutions. And he and Robin D'Angelo and that whole ridiculous scam which is still going on, they knew precisely what they were doing. But back to my main point, I think a lot of people don't understand it. Yeah, I see even in fairly conservative publications, I still see people talk about DEI as if it's just an honest and open hearted desire to have, you know, like a black kid have the same opportunities in America as A white kid. Again, everybody wants that. DEI is not that. Anyway, having said that, back to the Journal thing, the NFL is a TV show. Never forget that. It's an entertainment product from top to bottom.
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Unknown
It's not actually an effort to see which city has the best 40 guys.
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Joe Getty
To play football hired behemoths. No, it's a TV show. And it is an incredibly popular, profitable TV show. And a huge percentage of the cast are young black men and are incredibly important to the game and its popularity.
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Unknown
I've noticed that.
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Joe Getty
And given the fact that most people don't understand what DEI really is and what it is not, including young black men who run, you know, receiving routes and get tackled hard and stay in incredible physical condition and memorize playbooks that would boggle the mind of an MIT physicist. That they don't spend a lot of time acquainting themselves with the subtleties of sociological issues is not shocking. So I get why Roger Goodell has said no. We're still up with diversity, up with dei. We're continuing all our programs. I get why he does that. It annoys me, but I get it. I thought this was more interesting and revealing. This is a piece written by Callum Borchers. What happens when a former NFL player becomes your office co worker? And I've got to admit, I haven't thought about this much. Oh, and he mentions, did we find the audio guys from the 2003. That was 22 years ago. Super bowl commercial featuring. Was it Terry Tate, office linebacker or something like that? Do we have that? Okay, if you saw the commercial, you certainly remember it now. Absolutely. Hilarious. They hired a linebacker to root out inefficiency at their office. It's kind of like Doge, except if you weren't doing your job right, he would level you wearing his football gear. Anyway, back to the threat of the thing, I thought, this is super interesting. Turns out real NFL retirees who enter the business world learn to make an impact in different ways. Quote Will Rackley, a former offensive lineman for the Jaguars and Ravens. He's a couple of months into a job as a business operations analyst at the staffing firm Atrium. He said it can be a culture shock when stepping into a corporate setting as opposed to the locker room. But manager after manager was telling Callum Borchers that they struggle to recruit people who can take and deliver candid feedback, especially these days. We've all heard stories of the snowflakes and the gen zers and millennials. Gen zers especially. Who if you say, you know, that report wasn't quite up to snuff. They will break down. Oh, my God, you're crushing my spirit. I need a spirit day. I need a mental health day.
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Unknown
They have trouble with people that can deliver the candid feedback, though. You smell funny. Everybody's talking about it. See, I can.
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Joe Getty
No, not that sort of candidate. About job performance specifically. A lot of people, particularly given the first thing I was talking about, people who can't take candid feedback are extremely uncomfortable giving it.
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Unknown
You got to stop eating with your mouth open. You're going to make somebody kill you. Wow.
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Joe Getty
No, we're talking about business performance again. But former gridiron pro accustomed to coaches who yell cuss and call out mistakes in post game film sessions every week of their careers is not likely to wilt under a little constructive criticism.
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Unknown
That's funny. My son just said this is like his first real sport. I think he's playing volleyball. He said, the coach is yelling at me all the time. I said, that's what coaches do.
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Joe Getty
Yes.
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Unknown
Good or bad, no matter what's happening, the coaches yell at you. That's just, that's the way it works.
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Joe Getty
This is the candid feedback we're discussing. And while there is some truth to the cliche that athletes can bring winning mindsets to business, it is actually their ability to handle losing that stands out, according to bosses. And the former NFL players we're talking about are like the vast majority who leave the game. Not hall of Famers with set for life money. They're often men who are pushed out of the game by injuries or a younger, cheaper draft pick who could play about as well.
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Unknown
Which is almost everybody gets in the NFL, right?
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Joe Getty
Oh, yeah, yeah. Vast majority. They've dealt with disappointment and regrouped. Said an associate director of non traditional talent programs at Verizon. Quote, the ability to pick yourself up and get back into the game is really what business is all about. And he's found these guys to be much more resilient. I don't they understand, wow, that went badly. What can we learn?
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Unknown
I don't doubt that that should be focused on more for all professional athletes, the vast majority of whom, even if you've reached your dreams, made it to that league, you're gonna make a little money and be there a couple years, and then you're gonna go back to regular life and you're gonna be 25 years old.
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Joe Getty
Right.
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Unknown
And. And that, that would be an interesting mindset. I was good enough to play in that league. I, I worked my ass off 10 hours a day like my whole life. But that's over now and I'm only 25 and I got to do something different.
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Joe Getty
Right. But I think the other aspects of it because that's important though. But the idea of somebody. Well, they make another point. NFL players are completely unfazed by the arduous process of, of interviewing for white, white collar jobs and or preparing for presentations and interviews and stuff like that. It's what they've done their whole lives. It's a different skill set that they're preparing for. But the idea of we're going to have to go really, really hard to get rid or get ready for this one particular meeting or something. They're, they're completely in that mode. So I thought that was interesting. It also reminds me of the New York Times. There is a great piece they did. Yeah, I know. When they're not completely biased, they do really good journalism once in that the single most important characteristic for a child to predict their success in life is resilience. Can they. Are they afraid of failure or do they understand? Yeah, it happens sometime. Let's plunge on number one predictor. And I can see why NFL players would be really good at that. Armstrong and Gettysburg.
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Jack Armstrong
The Armstrong and Getty show who was.
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Unknown
I talking to the other day that had a meeting with their corporate person? Who had I been talking to? I don't talk to anyone. Anyway, they met with their corporate CEO for a major corporation and they were having a discussion about AI and I said what was the gist of it? And the gist of it was we're not going to need any of you anymore. Well, this gets rolling and we've all heard this sort of stuff. If you're paying attention to AI at all, that all kinds of different jobs will go by the wayside. And a lot of the jobs that were the most sure thing in our economy are the ones that are going to be going first. So that has everybody concerned. But we're not there yet. AI search engines cite incorrect sources at an alarming 60% rate, a new study shows. So a lot of people like me. When you Google something, you're going with the AI version at the top of the list for the answer and thinking that's probably close enough. It might not be that close. AI models incorrectly answered more than 60% of queries about news sources. They have a tendency to and this has been an ongoing problem with AI. Make stuff up. AI is like your 5 year old. It just makes stuff up and you have to realize that if your 5 year old comes in and says, you know, a kid named Jimmy down the street punched me, maybe that happened. Maybe there is no Jimmy. They just said that for who knows what reason.
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Joe Getty
That's the way I. AI is it.
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Unknown
Just makes stuff up.
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Joe Getty
But 60%? Is that what you said?
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Unknown
Yes.
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Joe Getty
Hang on a second. Let me use my chat GPT Jack. That's almost half.
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Unknown
They ran 1600 Corey across eight different generative search tools and came up with that 60% number. Surprisingly, premium paid versions of these AI search tools fared even worse in certain respects. Perplexity Pro, which is $20 a month, and Grok3, that's Elon's thing, which is $40 a month, confidently delivered incorrect responses more often than their free counterparts. For some reason, this is around the.
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Joe Getty
News stuff, so you pay for less accuracy.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Joe Getty
All right.
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Unknown
Again around new stuff. I don't know if like for instance, Grox claiming it's good at that. Mostly what I see on Grok is its ability to, I don't know, create music videos or, or pictures or, or, or hot chicks in a cowboy hat if that's what you want, or something like that. These AI systems seem to be really good at that. But in terms of. So they would ask various questions about news stories and GROK might give you a source that wasn't the source or make one up or create a link to the information that doesn't exist. It would just make up a link and they don't seem. No, and they don't seem to be. Well, I'm ashamed they know that. They don't know why AI does this.
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Joe Getty
Right.
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Unknown
And as we've said before, they're not exactly sure if it's fixable, but AI ain't going to take over the world if it, if they can't figure that out, I just, I don't see how that happens.
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Joe Getty
Right, right. It could absolutely take over a significant number of professions that are fairly limited in scope. There's a great piece in the Journal about how high school and college students especially are using AI to cheat. Always, everywhere, all the time. Yeah, not every kid certainly, but man, they go into all the different ways they tell the story of a 17 year old girl in New Jersey. He uses it all the time. She's only been busted once.
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Unknown
Define use.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, here we go. She turned to open IA's OpenAI's Chat GPT and Google's Gemini to help spawn ideas and review concepts which many teachers allow. More often. Though AI completed her work, she Solved math homework problems and aced to take home tests. Chat GPT.
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Unknown
I got a message for this kid. You're only hurting yourself.
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Joe Getty
That is both true and hilarious. Let's see. Chat GPT did calculations for a science lab. It produced a tricky section of a history term paper, which she rewrote to avoid detection. And again, though she used it in virtually every class, she only got busted once.
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Unknown
Yeah, the math thing, that's a tough one because you probably, probably. I'm sure this is true. I'm sure you can have AI even show the work and you could just write down the work. The whole show your work thing.
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Joe Getty
Right.
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Unknown
So. But I was wondering about. So if I'm writing a paper, this would save a lot of time and there's no way you'd ever bust me on this. This is just where we are in the modern world. Hey, Grok, I need a founding father saying something about the importance of borders, and it finds me one. And I don't have to dig through 12 old timey books and go to the index and read paragraphs. It's just right there. I mean, that would be kind of cheating. It's certainly easier than it used to be. But.
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Joe Getty
Yes, and there's absolutely a loss to the, like the indirect educational process.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Joe Getty
Because like it or not, as you're looking for A, you'll also learn B and C. It's practically unavoidable.
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Unknown
And how could they stop you from running, you know, having AI read over your paragraph and, you know, make it.
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Joe Getty
A little better and. Or just summarize everything very briefly? I mean, my daughter's in law school, for instance, and a big part of it is you read just reams of information, then you outline it, you condense it, you, you know, boil the concept or the actual, you know, the things that happen in the case down to the concepts that you need to remember.
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Unknown
Boil this down for me. I'll be at the bar at St. Patrick's Day.
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Joe Getty
Right, exactly. And one more aspect of this problem, especially with academia, is that the companies that make these tools are not so keen on distributing the tools to identify when somebody is using it to cheat. Because students are their big customer base. Well, so they hem and haw about. Yeah, we would like to release that to you, but it's not quite ready.
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Unknown
Oh, that's interesting right there. So I'm not trying to be anti intellectual, but. And people been saying this since I was a kid, when computers, when, when calculators first came out. What's the point of me learning this as long as there's a calculator. Well, that's really true now. I mean, if every, if every Homo sapien in America over the age of five is carrying a computer that can do all of this math work, is there a value in learning how to do it by hand in case you're on a desert island or something? I don't know.
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Joe Getty
Yes, there almost certainly is. A neurologist could probably explain it to you that you have a bedrock understanding of what you're doing and, and it helps you in some way. I, as a politics guy, can't really describe to you if I think you lose something, but I also think that's the modern world to a large extent.
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Unknown
If Grock or something is going to write everything, it's going to write your legal briefs, it's going to write up your business proposal. If it's going to write everything, is there a reason to learn to write?
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Joe Getty
This is. Well, wow. Wow, that's. That's insane.
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Unknown
And I mean, not just to be like a successful Homo sapien. I mean. Well, I do mean. I mean to be a. Financially, like, to make it in the world, you just need to know how to run grok, don't you, to be better at that.
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Joe Getty
Yeah. You need to write well enough to write what you want and tell the computer. Final note. John B. King, chancellor of the State University of New York system, former education secretary, said at a conference in October, quote, there are probably lots of students K through 12 and higher ed who used chat GPT to do their homework last night without learning anything. That's scary.
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Unknown
They weren't learning anything in many cases before AI, so that's a problem. Also, this is discouraging all the way around.
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Joe Getty
I'm checking out of the modern world. I'm telling you, starting some sort of weird fundamentalist, you know, society.
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Unknown
Tired of being in a good mood? Tune in. The Armstrong and Getty Show, I guess.
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Jack Armstrong
The Armstrong and Getty Show.
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Joe Getty
Why should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand?
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Unknown
We're not boring. A lot of news is boring and.
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Joe Getty
Tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that.
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Unknown
Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty.
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Joe Getty
We're Armstrong and Getty.
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Unknown
We try to bring you the truth.
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Joe Getty
And help you figure out this crazy.
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Colby Ekowitz
Modern world about something about a comedic tone.
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Joe Getty
We have a winner. Yes.
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Unknown
Listen to Armstrong and Yeti on Demand on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or.
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Joe Getty
Wherever you get your podcast.
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Unknown
Ah, come on. Why is this taking so long? This thing is ancient.
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