A&G Replay Monday Hour One

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand – A&G Replay Monday Hour One

Host: iHeartPodcasts
Date: November 24, 2025

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Episode Overview

This replay episode of The Armstrong & Getty Show features Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty reviewing some of their most engaging recent discussions. The main themes revolve around the political polarization in America and its effects on national pride, the role of propaganda and social movements in shaping educational curricula and public discourse, the ethical hazards of content algorithms, antisemitism and extremism in online spaces, and the impact of technological change on society.

The hosts approach these topics with their characteristic blend of humor, skepticism, and passionate opinion, often using real-life news stories and studies to illustrate broader trends.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Democrats Comparing Trump to Hitler: Media Claims vs. Reality

• Timestamps: [4:41]–[6:08]
• The episode opens with Jack and Joe mocking recent claims by Illinois's governor and MSNBC's Nicole Wallace, who deny that Democrats ever compare Trump to Hitler. The hosts play a brief montage of prominent Democrats (including Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi) making such comparisons.
• Quote:
  Joe Getty ([05:51]): “Yeah. So it's not even low level Democrats in that montage. You got Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi.”
• Analysis:
  The segment is used to highlight what they see as dishonesty or selective memory among politicians and journalists regarding extreme rhetoric.

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2. Decline in National Pride: Gallup Poll Trends

• Timestamps: [6:17]–[15:41]
• The hosts discuss new Gallup data tracking Americans’ pride in the country since 2000.
  • In 2000, over 85% of Americans across political stripes were "very" or "extremely" proud.
  • Now, 2025 data shows Republicans’ pride unchanged (~90%), independents at 53%, and Democrats “barely above a third.”
• The discussion flows into why Democrat and independent pride has declined while Republican numbers remain steady.
• Quote:
  Jack Armstrong ([09:29]): “Russia, China, and you know, the whole critical theory crowd. I congratulate you. You've, you haven't won, but you're winning. That's an enormous gain for driving the country apart, for killing the United States from within.”
• They reference educational developments in Minneapolis—classes labeling capitalism as white supremacy, and race-centric curricula—as examples of cultural trends fueling this divide.
• Memorable Moment:
  • Light-hearted banter about Jack’s “drag name” being “Jiggles” is used as a comic aside amid the otherwise serious discussion ([08:28]–[08:42]).
• Critical Observation:
  • The hosts suggest that progressive propaganda in education is teaching kids to hate the country, which in turn erodes national unity.
• Quote:
  Joe Getty ([12:56]): “…if I was going to be intellectually honest, it’s because they think they’re helping a bad country by teaching the things they’re thinking.”

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3. Breaking Down Educational Propaganda and Marxist Influence

• Timestamps: [13:36]–[17:27]
• The “neo-Marxist” influence in schools is scrutinized. The hosts claim current curricula systematically label American institutions as racist to destabilize the country from within.
• Quote:
  Jack Armstrong ([14:58]): “They are calling everything, including the free market, white supremacy. That’s because they’re Marxists. They don’t want the free market. Call something racist until you control it.”
• Joe Getty voices frustration as a parent, describing how he pulled his son from an American history class centered solely on negatives about the country ([14:58]–[15:10]).

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4. Polarization and Relationships

• Timestamps: [15:11]–[15:41]
• Armstrong and Getty discuss the difficulty of maintaining personal relationships (friendships, romantic) across ideological lines in today’s climate.
• Quote:
  Joe Getty ([15:29]): “How could I be in a relationship with somebody who thinks this is a bad country, which apparently is two thirds of Democrats. That’s… a tough situation.”

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5. Mouse “Utopia” Experiment and Societal Parallels

• Timestamps: [17:44]–[20:44]
• The pair revisit “Universe 25”, an experiment wherein a mouse population with abundant resources eventually self-destructs due to behavioral pathologies. They connect its lessons to modern Western societies' declining birth rates, well-being, and social cohesion.
• Quote:
  Joe Getty ([20:03]): “We don’t have any threats ... Even if you got people marching… our basic needs are being met and we’re stopping getting together. We’re starting to act weird.”
• Memorable Moment:
  • Jack jokes about the “mouse utopia” having “Wi-Fi streaming… Amazon Prime” ([18:40]–[18:44]).

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6. Antisemitism in Online Spaces, Nick Fuentes, and The Real Split on the Right

• Timestamps: [24:13]–[38:43]
• Discussion is sparked by an antisemitic outburst directed at Barstool Sports’ Dave Portnoy and commentary by Batya Ungar-Sargon (writing in The Free Press) on the growing prominence of extremist voices like Nick Fuentes.
• They dissect how algorithm-driven social media has created incentives for content creators to cater to extremist or fringe audiences, distorting perceptions of what “the right” stands for.
• Quote:
  Joe Getty ([29:57]): “I mean, who doesn’t stick with that subject? As soon as somebody says, ‘Yeah, I love Stalin’...” Jack Armstrong ([32:37]): “...I wish, I hope there’s a platform that in the future lets you flip off your algorithm when you want to ... Turn off my algorithm and just give me what’s popular for everyone... it really worries me that I'm being funneled stuff and I have no control over it.”
• The hosts applaud traditional conservatives who “stand up and denounce Fuentes,” warning of the damage caused by conflating free speech with accepting literal Nazis in movements.
• Quote:
  Jack Armstrong ([34:47]): “...content creators are deeply divorced from where the vast majority of Republicans and conservatives are on many issues. And this is why they’re not reading the room, they’re reading the comments section under their videos...”
• Commentary on media manipulation: New York Times and others allegedly “elevate” extremists like Fuentes to paint all conservatives as Nazis.

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7. Short Takes: Tech and Social Pranks

• Tesla Full Self-Driving Safety Investigation
  • Timestamps: [42:00]–[43:14]
  • Armstrong and Getty discuss federal reviews into Tesla’s autonomous driving software, noting rapid changes in technology, consumer trust issues, and the potential future of fully autonomous vehicles and airplanes.
  • Quote:
    Jack Armstrong ([43:14]): “Yeah, I’m out of my depth here, Donnie.”
• AI Home Intruder Pranks on TikTok
  • Timestamps: [43:55]–[45:11]
  • The hosts strongly condemn a dangerous TikTok trend where teens create fake AI images of strangers in their homes to prank parents, noting the real-life consequences and lack of judgment.
  • Quote: Jack Armstrong ([44:43]): “Dad, I’m just messing with you. It’s AI. Good results. Criminal charges. You stupid c…” Joe Getty ([44:55]): “…you're too freaking stupid to exist.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 05:51 | Joe Getty | “So it's not even low level Democrats in that montage. You got Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi.” | | 09:29 | Jack Armstrong | “Russia, China, and you know, the whole critical theory crowd. I congratulate you. You haven’t won, but you're winning. That's an enormous gain for driving the country apart…” | | 12:56 | Joe Getty | “…they think they're helping a bad country by teaching the things they're thinking.” | | 14:58 | Jack Armstrong | “They are calling everything, including the free market, white supremacy. That’s because they’re Marxists.” | | 15:29 | Joe Getty | “How could I be in a relationship with somebody who thinks this is a bad country, which apparently is two thirds of Democrats.” | | 20:03 | Joe Getty | “We don't have any threats ... even if you got people marching… we're stopping getting together. We're starting to act weird.” | | 32:37 | Jack Armstrong | “…I hope there’s a platform in the future lets you flip off your algorithm when you want to… it worries me that I’m being funneled stuff and have no control over it.” | | 34:47 | Jack Armstrong | "Content creators are deeply divorced from where the vast majority of Republicans and conservatives are on many issues." | | 44:43 | Jack Armstrong | “Dad, I’m just messing with you… Good results. Criminal charges. You stupid c…” |

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Timeline of Major Segments

• 04:41–06:08: Democrat comparisons of Trump to Hitler and political dishonesty
• 06:17–15:41: National pride, Gallup poll data, educational trends, ideological divides
• 17:44–20:44: Mouse “Utopia” experiment and social cohesion
• 24:13–38:43: Antisemitism, online algorithms, Nick Fuentes, Batya Ungar-Sargon article, divide between content creators and mainstream conservatives
• 42:00–43:14: Tesla Full Self-Driving investigation
• 43:55–45:11: Dangerous TikTok AI prank trend and parental outrage

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Episode Tone and Style

Armstrong & Getty continue their trademark mix of dry wit, sarcasm, skepticism, and impassioned critique throughout the episode. They rely on both anecdote and statistical analysis, frequently referencing real news and research. Their tone oscillates between concern, exasperation, and mockery—especially when discussing bureaucratic hypocrisy, radical activism, or foolish behavior.

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Summary

In this replay, Armstrong & Getty provide a wide-ranging critique of political polarization, the manipulation of education and public discourse, and the impacts of technology on both society and individual behavior. Through humor, anecdote, and sharp analysis, the hosts challenge prevailing narratives on both the right and left, warn of the societal dangers of propaganda—both in media and education—and call for a return to honest debate and basic civic values.

Transcript

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

It's the Armstrong and Getty Replay.

[Jack Armstrong]

But what we have for you is delicious. A collection of some of our best stuff.

[Joe Getty]

You can hear more, of course, on our podcast, Armstrong and Getty on Demand.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

So now enjoy the Armstrong and Getty Replay. I haven't suggested that the Donald Trump is Hitler.

[Jack Armstrong]

I wouldn't, I don't think any Democrat has. I actually, and I, and I think it's a, it's a smear that they.

[Joe Getty]

Project back on to critics. Okay, that's the governor of Illinois saying he's never compared Trump to Hitler. And Nicole Wallace, the host, saying, I don't think any Democrat ever has. Now here's a montage, and this is just a short portion of Democrats comparing Trump to Hitler.

[Jack Armstrong]

We have a Timu Hitler in the.

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White House right now, but this wannabe Hitler for sure.

[Jack Armstrong]

Comparing the tactics of Donald Trump to Mussolini and Hitler is a very legitimate thing. He is paving the way to become a Vladimir Putin, become an Adolf Hitler. Well, Hitler was duly elected. That's right.

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Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

And so somebody with those tendencies, though dictatorial, authoritarian tendencies would be like, okay, we're going to shut this down. We're going to throw these people in jail. And they didn't usually telegraph that Trump is telling us what he intends to do. Yes, that's right.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. So it's not even low level Democrats in that montage. You got Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi.

[Jack Armstrong]

Among others, telling Trump Hitler right after.

[Joe Getty]

Nicole Wallace and the governor of Illinois saying, I've never called him Hitler. I don't think any Democrat ever has. Okay, whatever these are, these are the times we live in.

[Jack Armstrong]

There are a number of people, including a lot of progressives, of course, who will just lie overtly, knowing most people don't have the nerve to call them on it.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, I thought that might lead into this, and maybe it's why we're going the direction we're going. I have no idea. I'm not a fan of Hitler. The question from Gallup is it's about pride in being an American, and it goes back to the turn of the century, 2000. So since 2000, they've been asking this question, how proud are you to be an American? Extremely proud. Very proud. Moderately proud. Only a little. Little proud or not proud at all, which would you choose? Joe Getty as of this day in 2025?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, the top one.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, me too. Extremely proud.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. And speaking of liberty across the globe. Yeah. Extremely proud. With all our flaws, of course, this.

[Joe Getty]

Graph, you would not have been an outlier at all at the turn of the century, no matter your political stripe. This graph only includes people who are very or extremely. Doesn't even include moderately proud. Just very or extremely. In the year 2000, start of this century, for Republicans, it was 90%. For independents, it was 85%. For Democrats, it was 87%.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

So it was nine out of 10 of Americans, no matter your political stripe, who were extremely or very proud of being an American.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Let that sink in for a second. That's amazing. To where we are now for Republicans.

[Jack Armstrong]

Just served two terms. Bush was in the middle of term number one, and it was pre 9, 11. Okay, so it was just the attitude. It was the culture.

[Joe Getty]

Well, we'll have to get into the whys, but Republicans have held steady more or less during that entire time at around 90%. I think that's interesting because, I mean, that includes the Obama years. It's not just a I'm up with whoever's president now thing. It stayed at 90% during a time when you weren't happy with the president. You're. Whether you're proud of being American, not should not change with the presidency, but Democrats, it has gone mostly down. It's like the stock market. There's little Jiggles, but the overall trend has been down over this quarter of a century.

[Jack Armstrong]

And now Jiggles is my drag name, by the way. You read books on the weekend.

[Joe Getty]

High school High school libraries.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're dragging. Elementary school libraries.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Drag time, story hour. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Little jiggles, ladies and gentlemen.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

You're so flamboyant.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hi, kids. Let me indoctrinate you.

[Joe Getty]

Let's get back to this very important question. This is important. This should be studied by a panel of experts and figure out what's going the hell's going on here. So for the Republicans people, as self identified Republicans, it's held steady at 90%. Independence are now at half. So it was 90%, it's now half.

[Jack Armstrong]

53%.

[Joe Getty]

Why independents have dropped to 53% is an interesting question. And then for self identified Democrats, it's now down to barely above a third. Went from 9 out of 10 the start of the 2000s to barely above a third now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Russia, China, and you know, the whole critical theory crowd. I congratulate you. You've, you haven't won, but you're winning. That's an enormous gain for driving the country apart, for killing the United States from within. It's one of the most amazing propaganda victories I've ever seen.

[Joe Getty]

Why have Republicans held steady regardless of the administration, while Democrats have trended downward? Brief blip up a little bit when Biden took office from Trump, but then went down very quickly and then continue to go down.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think Democrats are obsessed with politics in a way that a lot of conservatives are aren't, for one thing. So this could be some Trump backlash. I also have to observe that the, the people that are self identified Democrats are very, very different 25 years on than they were in 2000.

[Joe Getty]

Well, it looks to me way to the left looks to me like when Trump was elected. And it did go down fairly steeply after Trump was elected, but at the time Trump was elected, it was down into the 60s. How did it go from 90% into the 60s during two terms of Bush and two terms of Obama?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, well, I tell you my theory and I'm pretty sure I'm right. Here's a couple of headlines to illustrate the point. Minneapolis Public Schools have prohibited white and Asian students from taking classes on black culture and black queens and all sorts of woke stuff. The obsession with race, the whole critical theory crowd. And then you have this one. This is also Minneapolis Public Schools. They have declared capitalism a pillar of white supremacy in a required ethnic studies class. Every kid has to take this class and they are taught that capitalism or free market economy is a tool of white supremacy.

[Joe Getty]

With the, with the caveat we always throw in of it's easier said than done. How do you Keep your kid in that freaking school.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know.

[Joe Getty]

To learn that. F you. Not only do I don't agree with your teaching style. F you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. I hate you. That's hate speech.

[Joe Getty]

You're a bad person. That's what I wanted to say to my sons history teacher since I pulled my son out of that public school class. You're a bad person. You're actually damaging the country. You a hole.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, a lot of these people are actively damaging the country on purpose. That's what they want to do. They're useful. Idiots who think they're doing what's morally right are just idiots.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

These people are awful. But anyway, I think people who tend to be of a conservative bent have heard all of the critical race theory, the DEI stuff, the trans radical stuff and said no, what you're saying is not true. Whereas people of a progressive point of view, for reasons we've discussed, whether, you know, they're just born this way or whatever, or sometimes they just want to be approved of so they will parrot whatever is being told to them is right just so that they get the approval of people around them. But people with a progressive bent heard all this crap and said, oh my God, oh my God, this is a terrible country. The propaganda worked on them. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I guess if I was going to be intellectually honest, it's because they think they're helping a bad country by teaching the things they're thinking. They, you know, pointing to the graph right here. They don't.

[Jack Armstrong]

They're trying to destroy something that they believe to be evil.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. If you think it's a bad country, you should be trying to change it. I guess I just, I think it's really illustrates something that the Republican numbers held steady through all the various things that have happened over the last 25 years. And a lot of things have happened. It's just kind of a flat line basically at 90% of very extremely proud. That's something that this is. This is a problem.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm digging more into the second Minneapolis story and it's so interesting. It's like studying the propaganda tactics of the Soviet Union or Russia or whatever. But they're really hammering ethnic studies on the kids. Ethnic studies is an anti racist tool. They say identify the structural inequalities that are part of K through 12. They're gonna decolonize education and there's all sorts of. They read Ibram X Kendi and the other jokers and liars of neo Marxism. But it's a classic example of everything that the neo Marxists hate. They call racist or based on white supremacy. And all the poor sheep, weak minded people who all they know is, I don't want to be a racist. I know being racist is bad. These people are telling me what's racist and what's not. I will believe them and I will obey them. They are calling everything, including the free market, white supremacy. That's because they're Marxists. They don't want the free market call something racist until you control it. It's so obvious what's happening here. And they brand it all with anti racism and they teach the poor little kids, we're gonna tell you about decolonizing this and anti racism, that it's all bent on tearing down the western systems.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And the reason my kid is no longer in that American history class, it seemed to be, at least in the first two months, all bent on convincing you the country was bad. That's the only thing they'd learned so far.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

Which is wild. And I don't want to be the kind of guy that buys into this notion that you can only have friends who are on your side politically. Or I'm single, can only date. You know, based on politics, I don't want to live in that world. But based on this graph, I might not have any choice.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

How could I be in a relationship with somebody who thinks this is a bad country, which apparently is two thirds of Democrats. That's. I mean, that's a tough situation. That'd be a heck of a thing to overlook in your lives.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh yeah, Yeah. I mean, it would come up a lot, especially because everybody's so obsessed with politics lately. That's wild. Yeah, it is. It's sick. It's. I mean, and I don't know, I could go on and on about this stuff, but the subversion of the United States has been a project of those who would either want to dominate us or just hate us for ideological reasons for a very, very. And one of the ways you do it is to inject Marxism into everything in sheep clothing. And they've been incredibly successful at that. The other thing is you constantly pit people against each other, which is why, you know, so much of online hatred and sniping back and forth is bots or foreign agents and that sort of stuff. But then once you get that going, it sustains itself. It's like when you get the whirlpool going in your above ground pool or whatever. Once you get it started, it keeps going. You don't have to work at it anymore. And that's what, you know, the people who hate the United States have gotten going through our educational systems which should be torn down to the foundation and rebuilt or just abandoned by parents with conscience.

[Joe Getty]

I can't. Looking at this graph, I can't see any reason to think that those down numbers from independents and Democrats aren't going to trend the direction. Keep going the direction they're going. I mean, how low will it get?

[Jack Armstrong]

No. Well, we've let wolves into the hen house of education. I feel so for parents who know all of this, but they can't afford or don't have time to get their kid in an alternate educational environment. I understand how tough that was, but it's beyond a problem. It's horrifying what kids are being taught in government schools.

[Joe Getty]

Tell me about it.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

Have we ever Talked about Universe25 before? I feel like we probably have, but we've been doing this radio show for 30 years, so it could have been a long time ago.

[Jack Armstrong]

Project 2025. Right.

[Joe Getty]

From Heritage Universe 25. It's a famous mouse experiment from back in the day. Oh, right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, go ahead.

[Joe Getty]

Between 1968 and 1972, he studied these mice. He created a mouse utopia experiment to see what would happen. I think you'll see parallels to today with these mice. The basic setup is the utopia. Utopia included an enclosure with unlimited food, water, nesting materials and no predators. For these mice, he started with four breeding pairs and then let the population develop naturally again. Food, weather, food, water, protection, all your basic needs met. And no predators. The population initially.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wi fi. WI fi streaming.

[Joe Getty]

Exactly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Cool.

[Joe Getty]

Amazon Prime. Yes, the population initially grew exponentially. But at around day 560, the growth began to slow dramatically. They stopped having little mice babies. At a certain point, despite having physical space and resources, the mice developed behavioral pathologies. Dominant males became extremely aggressive. Subordinate males withdrew completely. Some mice, mostly males, completely disengaged from social life, only eating, drinking and grooming themselves. Obsessively, female mice abandoned their young and infant mortality skyrocketed. Wow. Young mice never learned social and mating behaviors from their parents, if you will. And by day 600, no new mice were being born and the population eventually went extinct. Now, as it says here in the summary, people are not mice and mice are not people.

[Jack Armstrong]

Fair point. Come on now. Yeah. I have known a handful of people who were completely taken care of. Trust fund kids, that sort of person. In the vast majority of those stories do not have joyful endings or descriptions.

[Joe Getty]

No, but this is what I've been saying about we stopped having babies. This is what I've been thinking of first world countries. We don't have any threats. We were not going to be invaded by another country. And we have our basic need met. Needs met. Even if you got people marching in the street because their house is not as big as their neighbor's house or whatever it is, our basic needs are being met and we're stopping getting together. We're starting to act weird.

[Jack Armstrong]

True. Yeah. Well, and it's absolutely known scientifically that struggle raises your testosterone and victory raises it even more. We're meant to strive and fight, whether literal battles or metaphorical battles, and we're not meant to lay around and be comfortable as beings.

[Joe Getty]

Interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

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Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty the Armstrong and Getty Show. Oh my gosh, that was Dave Portnoy of barstool sports fame, great entrepreneur, personality, etc. Doing a pizza review outside a restaurant for his channels and everything because he's a big pizza fiend like myself and some guy recognized either him or that Dave is Jewish and said f the Jews. Wow, Dave Rubin, speaking of influencers, had a comment or two. The point of that clip is that there's Dave Portnoy, a guy who cares about sports and who really loves pizza and he's doing a pizza review and some kid who likely you would have by every estimation that kid, whoever did.

[Joe Getty]

That, that young man is a Fuentes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Fan, probably a Tucker fan. So these things then do start manifesting into real life and then would that kid, I don't know, burn down a.

[Joe Getty]

Jewish owned bakery that happened in Germany.

[Jack Armstrong]

In the 1930s, would that happen? Like, where does this go? And Dave riffs on that question for a while. And I say, well said. The idea that even like two years ago somebody would have said f the Jews to Dave Portnoy as he reviews a pizza.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I think Dave's right. This stuff leeches into real life. And read a terrific piece by a terrific woman who writes for the Free Press, Batya Unger Sargon, who's interestingly enough authored two books, Second Class how the Elites Betrayed America's Working Men and Women, and another called Bad News How Woke Media Is Undermining Democracy. So her bona fides on our side of, you know, the ideological wars. Unimpeachable. Really, really smart lady. And, and she talks a lot about the whole Nick Fuente's, Tucker Carlson's thing, the crazy, crazy ass Candace Owens and all sorts of other stuff. Crazy ass, double crazy, crazy, crazy ass. And she writes about it at a fair length. I'm just gonna touch on a little bit because then she gets to another aspect of this that I find interesting. But over the last decade, she writes, the left tarred everyone to the right of Joe Manchin as a fascist, as a Nazi, as a racist. It was always a canard. Yet now far right content creators have decided to try to prove that the left was correct by widening the Overton window to include the airing of Nick Fuentes views in an uncritical manner. And she mentioned in a recent example, Fox News contributor YouTuber Brett Cooper posted a video condemning those seeking to keep actual Nazis out of the Republican Party. She read out an ex post from Senator Cruz. They don't kill you because you're a Nazi. They call you a Nazi so they can kill you. And then accused Cruz of hypocrisy because he accurately pointed out that Fuentes admires Hitler. Cooper wrote, so now you're turning around and you're calling somebody that you don't like a Nazi. Did you catch the logic? Because the left called good hearted conservatives Nazis, therefore no one can be denounced as a Nazi, including people who literally praise Hitler. What follows is all Nazis must be welcome because the left called people who weren't Nazis Nazis. Checkmate neocons. It's utterly ridiculous. I thought that was well put. Cooper says the Republicans are using the same tactics that the left has been using against us for years. Wrong again. That's not the right turning in the left. It's the sound of Cooper and other content creators doing their best to prove the left right that conservatives are secret bigots. Somehow they've managed to convince themselves that disagreeing with someone is itself cancel culture. But contrary to what those sanitizing Fuentes want you to believe, the brouhaha isn't splitting the right. It's splitting the political and cultural right from the content creators who make their money off global online audiences. And the title of the piece is the Real Split on the Right.

[Joe Getty]

What is?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, heck, there it is. Influencers versus conservatives. And here's where it gets even more interesting and takes a turn that I found intriguing with a lot of.

[Joe Getty]

Conservatives using finger quotes, because it's kind of a squishy term in this case, with a lot of conservatives not really realizing this as they take in their social media feed every day.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right? Yeah. These creators have found that their online audiences crave anti Israel content, and as a result, they've tried to frame the dust up as being about Israel and free speech. This is obviously nonsense. It's not a violation of free speech to condemn someone for nodding along as a white nationalist sullies everything Trump has built. It's not cancel culture to say, actually, Nazis are bad, blah, blah, blah. So then she goes into some more detail about it that I think we've covered. If Carlson ad Fuente is on a show to do a thorough critique of his antisemitism and racism, as he did of Ted Cruz's Christian Zionism, there might have been some backlash, but not for me. It was the unchallenged airing of bile and their frequent areas of agreement that smacked of sanitization. Can you even imagine a person who advocates puberty blockers for children getting such a pass from a conservative influencer? No, of course not.

[Joe Getty]

When? Because I watched the video with Nick Fuentes on with Tucker Carlson when he said, nick Fuentes mentions a date and says, you know, I know that date styles birthday. I love Stalin. And Tucker says, you love Stalin? And makes a face like, what the F. And we'll get to that later. Which they don't. I mean, who wouldn't interviewing somebody stop whatever you were talking about at that moment and say, let's do a dive into this whole you love Stalin thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right?

[Joe Getty]

I mean, who doesn't stick with that subject? As soon as somebody says, yeah, I love Stalin, I have his birthday memorized. Okay, What? And why? Yeah, but Tucker just was, like, clearly shocked by that, as any normal person would be, right? But said, well, we'll get to that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Don't circle back to that and no. Circle back to it. No, no, no. Everything stops and you talk about that unless you have A different purpose. Anyway, one more bit of what she writes. What those defending Fuentes are really saying is free speech means Nazis get to be part of our movement. And we've gotten a couple emails from, like, young folks on the right who've said, no, that's a lie. He's not a Nazi. Look, you can't praise Hitler, deny the Holocaust, and blame the Jews for everything and say, I'm a Nazi, or people are gonna call you a Nazi. Okay? You don't want those people to be with you anyway. It sounds crazy when you lay it out like that, but it's actually driven by a very real financial incentive. Many content creators make their money on social media. Here's how it works. The algorithm feeds people content that's similar to what they already like. If you find an audience and then rewards you. Oh, it finds you an audience and then rewards you for immensely for giving that audience exactly what they want. The flip side is it penalizes you if you disappoint them. Your viewership can be instantly crushed if you start upsetting your audience with ideas they aren't expecting. YouTubers and TikTokers are deeply connected to what their audience wants because their entire livelihood depends on it.

[Joe Getty]

I worry about my own algorithms, and I don't even seek out content like that. But I know I'm being fed stuff that Zuckerberg or, you know, whoever's in charge at Google or whatever that they think I want. And so I miss out on other stuff. I don't want to miss out on other stuff. I want to see the other stuff. Some of it I don't agree with. Some of it I might. I don't know. I don't ever get to hear it because it's pigeonholed me as a very specific sort of person.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

And has only given me that stuff. And I wish, I hope there's a platform that in the future lets you flip off your algorithm when you want to, like, what else is going on in the world. Turn off my algorithm and just give me what's popular for everyone. Or maybe you could choose other people's algorithms. Show me the algorithm of somebody who is a Kamala Harris voter or whatever. So I get different news because it really worries me that I'm. That I'm being funneled stuff and I have no control over it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, yeah, exactly. And we've. We've talked in a lighthearted way about this too. You know, when, for instance, my alma mater, the University of Illinois, is playing good football, I'll. I'll Click on college football stories more. Then all of a sudden, algorithms act like I'm Dabo Sweeney himself, you know, some college football coach, and I'll just get flooded with it. It's like, leave me alone.

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[Jack Armstrong]

But ideologically is a much more significant example. So final part of this. Oh, and for what it's worth, and I don't want to sound like I. We are galloping along on a white horse in shining armor. Combination of age and, you know, a fair level of financial comfort. I couldn't give a crap what people agree with or don't agree with. I am going to speak the truth as I see it, period. And you either appreciate that even if you disagree, and my goodness, you're welcome to disagree, we can still be friends. I will not do what's being described here. I find it disappointing, despicable. My sainted mother in heaven would be ashamed of me if I did it. And that is a far higher standard to me than what's in my bank account. Anyway. So she describes how their entire livelihood depends on pleasing their audience. That is getting fed the algorithm of what they already think, what they already believe. People point to the millions of views popular podcasters get as proof of their influence and relevance. But content creators are deeply divorced from where the vast majority of Republicans and conservatives are on many issues. And this is why they're not reading the room, they're reading the comments section under their videos, which are filled with people who do not reflect the views of normal Americans.

[Joe Getty]

You're right, it's a two way street. It's bad for me. What? I was just saying that I don't want to be fed just stuff that thinks the algorithm and this is what I'm interested in. But then me feeding back to them is not good for them.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right? And let's see. Oh, she mentions like even Kevin Roberts at the Heritage foundation getting way off track and forgetting partly that these platforms have global reach. So they look at a YouTube video that has 5 million views and suddenly think it means 5 million young American men agree with it. And we must not anger the young men by suggesting Hitler is bad. Then she makes a great point. This would be less infuriating if Trump hadn't just built the most multiracial working class coalition the Republican Party has had in generations. And many people are proud of it.

[Joe Getty]

He's also Donald Trump, the best friend Israel's ever had for any US President.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, absolutely. And as a Jewish son in law and his daughter converted.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, and she finally, she writes, I've been heartened to see how many Christians have stood up and vocally denounced Fuentes over the past week. That's the way to keep power. Not with Nazis or those who would really rather you didn't condemn them. Luckily, despite the best efforts of some podcasters, the GOP seems to understand that now. I certainly do.

[Joe Getty]

Even as awful a human being as I think Nick Fuentes is spreading awful things, I don't want to be unfair to him. So I'm going to say I don't have any idea if this next thing I'm about to say is true or not. The stuff I saw on Twitter. But there seems to be an attempt to bring him down. I mean, he's got powerful enemies.

[Jack Armstrong]

With.

[Joe Getty]

Some videos I saw of him hobnobbin with dudes who want to have sex with underage other dudes and. And. And saying some things that at least it looked like the way they were portrayed in these videos as him being pretty interested in younger guys. Like I said, I don't have any idea if these are AI creations or if they're true or not. Even as bad as I think Nick Fuentes is, I don't want to claim this if I don't know if it's true, but there is that attempt out there to make him that sort of person. Now, some of the statements he's made about his sexuality and sex and everything like that, it's pretty weird.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, he's in a weird.

[Joe Getty]

He's in a weird place sexually.

[Jack Armstrong]

He's an edgelord, too. He's. He's constantly saying things that are meant to offend and shock, so I just.

[Joe Getty]

Think he thinks all women are.

[Jack Armstrong]

He. Yeah, that Eve. He said the only really straight heterosexual position is to be an asexual incel. He refers to himself as a Nazi, twink, submissive gay man. What's interesting about the people trying to run him down is there's a great piece in the Free Beacon about how.

[Joe Getty]

The New York Times. I mean, yes, okay, attractive.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Swipe left or right or whichever one it is. What's interesting is the Free Beacon has a terrific piece about how the New York Times and others are trying to elevate this guy, because then they are go with the. The. The narrative that. Here's. Here's your conservative.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

So that's the problem. Like pictures that are touched up to make him look extra handsome and cool in the New York Times.

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[Joe Getty]

Oh, my God, there's nobody with any integrity whatsoever. So you're trying to elevate a Nazi and give him more of a platform, make him more money, make him more popular. Because you think ultimately that will hurt the other side, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

It's like if a guy like me gave $5,000 to Mumdani's campaign.

[Joe Getty]

Man, you talk about that idea, not seeing the forest for the trees or whatever saying fits this. But wow, cutting off your nose despite your face. I know there's some saying that fits this situation, but I'm not sure what.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is you're cutting off the baby.

[Joe Getty]

To despite the bath water. Exactly. Cutting the loaf in half.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know what the Armstrong and Getty Show.

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Armstrong and Getty show the National Highway Track Traffic Safety Administration has opened an.

[Jack Armstrong]

Investigation into Tesla's full self driving system. Officials now say they've received more than 50 reports of traffic safety violations and reports of several injuries.

[Joe Getty]

That's interesting. I have FSD in my newest Tesla, but the technology has changed so much over the last five years that I've been four years that I've been driving Teslas. Some of the older cars, I mean are they all the newer models? I mean it's all so complicated. I don't know if we'll ever reach full self driving that insurance companies and states allow. I really don't know if that'll ever happen.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would guess yes, but I have no idea when.

[Joe Getty]

With the existence of Waymo you'd think is going to happen, but that's a completely different model or way of doing it. You can do it for an individual city where you map every single sidewalk alley everything into the computer system of that car. Can you do that for the whole country to allow your. Or do you buy or do you start buying cars that this car is just programmed to drive in within 50 miles of where you live? Maybe that's the way it'll work.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I'm out of my depth here. Donnie. I was reading about self piloting planes is almost certainly the future in a lot of realms. But they point out that the pilot reassures everybody when there's unexpected turbulence or you know, just the to. If you're walking on the plane, you turn left and there's nobody in the cockpit. You glance to your left. That would freak people out. It would take a long time to get consumer acceptance. They were pointing out.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, I would say the self driving on my. My newest vehicle is fantastic. It has never made a mistake as far as I know. Even close to it, it's better than I am really. It can see things I can't see. This is a very interesting story that we want to touch on.

[Jack Armstrong]

A frightening new prank taking over social media across Tick Tock.

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[Jack Armstrong]

He can take a nap.

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Times ending with police knocking on their door.

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[Jack Armstrong]

With my mom and she took it seriously. No, there's no one Calls are ranked.

[Joe Getty]

In priority and something like this would.

[Jack Armstrong]

Be a high priority.

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Police departments across the country saying they're getting 911 calls from parents thinking child is actually in danger. Police issuing a warning to users that pulling pranks like these.

[Jack Armstrong]

Dad, I'm just messing with you. It's AI Good results. Criminal charges. You stupid c. Unplug the Internet. God, you are a freaking.

[Joe Getty]

I'm disappointed. You're my child. I better take a look at the way I invest because I'm going to be taking care of you for the rest of my life because you're too freaking stupid to exist.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean strong. How can you possibly think I know what I'll do?

[Joe Getty]

I'll have my parents think a stranger has broken into the house and I can't get him to leave. That'll be funny. God, you are an awful human being. Or your brain is broken.

[Jack Armstrong]

Utterly lacking in judgment. Oh my God. Yeah. That is horrific. How can a person be that blind? I don't know.

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I was just.

[Jack Armstrong]

What percentage of the population are you? Huh?

[Joe Getty]

I don't know. It's got to be small. Is it?

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, kids are so easily led that they see it online, they're told it's funny, they have no independent judgment because they're sheepish. And. And so they go ahead and do it. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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