Armstrong & Getty On Demand – "A&G Replay Thursday Hour Three"

Date: November 27, 2025
Host: iHeartPodcasts
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This episode tackles the cultural and legal complexities surrounding freedom of expression on college campuses, civic life in America and abroad, the efficacy of government policy on homelessness and addiction, and deep-dives into Supreme Court debates on nationwide injunctions and birthright citizenship. Special guest Tim Sandifer, Vice President for Legal Affairs at the Goldwater Institute, joins to discuss the nuances of recent Supreme Court oral arguments. The show blends serious issues with the signature Armstrong & Getty blend of satire and conversational storytelling.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Thanksgiving Banter and Show Leftovers

• The hosts open with light-hearted holiday wishes and humorous commentary on overeating, transitioning quickly into replaying topical "leftover" content (03:34–03:45).
• Brief jokes about lifestyle branding and plans for exercise ("I'm going to become bike riding guy... You know, one of those guys wears really skin tight clothes..." [03:58], co-host).

2. Silent Dissent & Preference Distortion on College Campuses

Survey Results & Self-Censorship

• Citing a Hill report: Most (upwards of 78%) of college students self-censor beliefs on gender identity, politics, and family values.
  • "78% of students told us they self censor on their beliefs surrounding gender identity, 72% on politics in general, 68% on family values." – Joe Getty ([04:53])
  • Over 80% admit to submitting classwork misrepresenting their views to align with professors for grades.
• Both hosts stress the importance of recognizing that silent dissent is widespread, even if it appears otherwise:
  • "Everybody's had this situation... some says, 'you know, I'm a gun owner,' and... 'Me too, me too.' ...We're not all—well, or whatever the topic is." ([06:21], co-host)

Social Pressure, Bullying & Indoctrination

• The concept of "preference distortion" is discussed; people often remain silent because they think they’re alone:
  • "Because everybody around you is silent, you think, oh, I'm probably one of the only people who believes this..." – Joe Getty ([06:04])
• Strong warnings about the dangers: indoctrination is described as “fighting unfairly and bullying...convincing kids that anybody who dissents is a bad person.” ([07:50], Joe Getty)
• Hosts empathize with students for choosing self-preservation over confrontation.

3. San Francisco: Homelessness and Drug Policy

Homeless Encampment Crackdown

• SF's recent drastic increase in citations/arrests for illegal lodging discussed:
  • "Between July of last year and July of this year, the city arrested or cited more than 1,080 people...over 10 times the number of arrests...a year earlier." – Joe Getty ([08:48])
  • Host’s personal observations confirm city’s transformation: "Last time I was in downtown San Francisco, I saw a homeless person. One. And that person was being talked to by somebody from the city..." ([09:04], co-host)
• Pushback from activists is mentioned and dismissed curtly by the hosts.

"Harm Reduction" Debate

• SF’s shift away from pure harm reduction, now criticized even by advocates.
  • "San Francisco stands now as a morbid example of how harm reduction has gone astray." – Joe Getty ([09:27])
  • Key distinction: “Harm reduction” should be a gateway to recovery, not an alternative to it.
  • "It has become an alternative to getting off of drugs." – Joe Getty ([11:09])
• Hosts express skepticism about rehab effectiveness, especially for the chronically homeless/addicted:
  • "Of people that are so far down the whole drug road that you're sleeping on the street...How many of those people ever clean up, I wonder? 1%? Half of 1%?" ([11:34], co-host)

4. Broader Shifts in Social Policy

• Noting positive trends: "A lot of the insane policies of the left are being abandoned, even in places like San Francisco." – Joe Getty ([12:33])
• Reports that medical centers, including Boston Children’s and prominent California hospitals, are restricting gender transition treatments for minors, citing federal and social pressure ([12:52]).

5. Life in London: Reflections from Abroad

British Pub Culture & Drinking Norms

• Humorous and appreciative reflections on British day drinking and pub sociability.
  • "I've become a fan of day drinking...you just have a beer because it’s nice and makes you feel slightly more cheerful." – Joe Getty ([13:50])
• Comparison with US attitudes, noting American prudishness regarding alcohol at lunch ([14:26]).

Social Observations

• Commentary on London’s ultra-wealthy Kuwaiti shoppers and their entourages:
  • "Guys walking up the street with four chicks in the beekeeper outfit...basically sex slaves..." ([15:18], Joe Getty)
• Points out British discomfort with massive, recent immigration and its cultural ramifications.

Dining & Service Culture

• Anecdotes about pub dining frustrations: lack of menu items, no tipping culture leads to indifferent service ([17:51]–[18:54]).
• Food in England: "Overall kind of good. Not great. But once you realize how to order, it’s better...Brits are not famous for food for good reason." ([18:55], Joe Getty)
• Discussion about pandemic-enforced labor shortages being a global phenomenon ([19:54]).

6. Supreme Court: Nationwide Injunctions & Birthright Citizenship

Featuring Guest Tim Sandifer (Goldwater Institute)

[Segment begins: 24:49]

Nationwide Injunctions by Federal Judges

• Context: Disputes over whether one federal judge (even "a single yahoo in rural Tennessee") should be able to issue injunctions affecting the whole nation.
  • "Nationwide injunctions are perfectly fine. They're the ordinary way of doing business in the courts..." – Tim Sandifer ([25:42])
  • Sandifer clarifies that while some think the system shouldn’t allow judges this power, historically courts always enjoined unconstitutional government action, only the terminology changed ([28:06]).

Dangers of Government Overreach

• "The underlying theme...what we really need to fear is the power of the government in this country. That's kind of the idea of forming it." – Joe Getty ([27:41])

Cultural and Political Problems

• Discussion on cultural trends: Presidents and Congress passing (or signing) laws they believe unconstitutional, expecting courts to "clean up their mess."
  • "I think that's disgraceful." – Tim Sandifer on G. W. Bush signing what he thought was unconstitutional, assuming courts would strike it down ([30:32])
• The solution: “Elect good presidents... we have to restore respect for the Constitution in this country.” – Tim Sandifer ([30:52])

Interpreting Justices' Leanings

• Key Justices (Barrett, Roberts) may side with liberals to uphold nationwide injunctions ([32:08]).
• "Justice Jackson... was the most interesting. She clearly understands how this area of the law works... Nationwide injunctions are perfectly legitimate..." ([32:08], Tim Sandifer)

7. The 14th Amendment & Birthright Citizenship

[38:01–43:11]

• Sandifer expertly explains the core ambiguity:
  • "All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are US Citizens." ([38:01])
  • The key question: What does “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” mean?
  • Two interpretations: (1) mere legal subjection (which would make tourists and illegal aliens’ kids citizens), (2) requires loyalty/allegiance (which would restrict citizenship).
• Sandifer notes the original framers couldn’t have anticipated illegal immigration, as no such category existed at the time.
• Precedent is thin: Only one noteworthy Supreme Court case (1898), but no explicit ruling that current, broad birthright citizenship is constitutionally required.
• Polling: Only about a third of Americans want to change birthright citizenship policy ([42:26], co-host).

8. Media & Judicial Appointments

• Question: Is it good that media always note which president appointed a judge?
  • Sandifer: "I think it's fine. I think people should know where these... [judges] came from... The law is not just partisan politics." ([42:51])

9. Cultural Diversions: Poetry and Bob Dylan

• Quick, light-hearted shift:
  • "Bob Dylan: Good poet or not?" – Jack Armstrong
  • "Lousy poet. No. Read Robert Hayden or Richard Wilbur instead." – Tim Sandifer ([43:44])
• Concludes with hosts reflecting on why Dylan’s lyrics remain resonant.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "This is important information." – Co-host (on college students hiding their true beliefs) ([04:45])
• "You're not nearly as alone as you think." – Joe Getty ([07:02])
• "Shut up. Most of them... are drug addicts. Yeah, yeah, shut up. So San Francisco is doing a good job." – Joe Getty ([09:13])
• "What began as a campaign to keep people alive long enough to recover from addiction has devolved into a philosophy that no longer considers recovery as necessary..." – Joe Getty ([10:39])
• "I think that's disgraceful." – Tim Sandifer (on presidents signing unconstitutional laws) ([30:32])
• "The Constitution is just a promise. And if we don't honor that promise, then it's not worth the paper it's written on." – Tim Sandifer ([31:18])
• “Justice Jackson was the one who was the most interesting. She clearly understands how this area of the law works...there’s no there there. Nationwide injunctions are perfectly legitimate.” – Tim Sandifer ([32:08])
• “'Bob Dylan: Good poet or not?' 'Lousy poet. No. Read Robert Hayden or Richard Wilbur instead.'” – Jack Armstrong, Tim Sandifer ([43:44])

Timestamps for Important Segments

• [03:34] – Thanksgiving humor / A&G podcast info
• [04:30] – College student self-censorship & survey
• [08:31] – Homelessness and San Francisco city policy
• [09:27] – "Harm reduction" debate
• [13:50] – Life, drinking, and service in London
• [24:49] – Supreme Court: Nationwide injunctions w/ Tim Sandifer
• [38:01] – 14th Amendment, birthright citizenship explanation by Sandifer
• [42:51] – Judges & media politics, Tim Sandifer’s take
• [43:44] – Bob Dylan poetry debate

Overall Tone & Style

The tone blends informed civic concern, accessible legalese, and a substantial dose of typical Armstrong & Getty irreverence and deadpan comedy. The approach to both serious and less serious topics is direct, sometimes mocking, but grounded in a desire to clarify the implications of policies and court decisions for their audience.

For New Listeners

This episode is a robust primer on the ways institutional pressures shape public discourse—in education, law, and urban policy—and offers a lively, accessible introduction to complex legal debates currently at the Supreme Court. The balance of cultural asides (pub life, poetry) reinforces the show’s blend of topical depth and entertainment.