A&G Replay Tuesday Hour One

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand — A&G Replay Tuesday Hour One

Date: November 25, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

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Episode Overview

This replay hour of the Armstrong & Getty Show spotlights lively, unscripted conversation on several trending topics, mainly focusing on artificial intelligence in everyday life, social policies regarding work and welfare, modern technology’s social ramifications, cultural politics, and the polarization in everything from tech gadgets to political ideology. Surprising moments include musings on AI’s eerily human responses, humorous banter about language, and pointed critiques of political and social trends.

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. AI Companions: Personality, Weirdness, and the “Uncanny Valley”

(04:24–08:29)

• Jack shares a personal story about conversing with Grok, the AI personality inside his Tesla. He compares responses from ChatGPT, Grok, and Claude to research obscure historical figures, notably Henry George.
• Bizarre AI moment: Grok responds in a human-sounding, forgiving way after being interrupted, unsettling both Jack and his son Henry.
  • “She laughs and says ‘yeah, don’t worry, it happens. Anyway, as I was saying...’” — Jack Armstrong (07:25)
• Discussion on AI’s personalities: Craig the “healthcare guru” writes in about using ChatGPT in ‘robot mode’ to avoid off-putting cheerfulness or human mimicry.
  • “Maybe that’s what I should do so it’s not so strange. Mine is like, it was preset to, kind of, very conversational and human-like. And it’s disturbing.” — Jack Armstrong (09:01)
• Unsettling resonance: The hosts express discomfort at AI that appears “almost human,” evoking the “uncanny valley.”
  • “If your dog started talking, it was like… right?” — Jack Armstrong (16:11)

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2. AI Critiques of Social Policy Slogans

(09:29–13:50)

• Listener Craig asks AI about the slogan "Starve the lazy":
  • AI’s response is analytical, noting the phrase is “blunt, polarizing… defines a moral divide… shifts debate from policy design to character judgment… underestimates screening costs… headline risk, easy to caricature as anti-poor rather than anti-work.” — Joe Getty, reading AI reply (10:00)
• Nuanced suggestions from AI:
  • “If the goal is work incentives, here’s some better framing. Reward work, protect the vulnerable.” — Joe Getty (11:48)
  • The concept of the “welfare cliff” and policy recommendations like “gradual phase out” receive praise from both hosts for being substantive and quick.
  • “If you were paying for a policy paper on this sort of thing, it would cost you a lot of money and take a lot of time and I’m guessing it spit it out in roughly three seconds.” — Joe Getty (13:31)

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3. Language, Humor, and AI’s Trading of Banter

(15:02–15:41)

• Craig asks AI how it feels about “Starve the lazy” as a slogan adopted by Armstrong & Getty and their fans. AI gives a playful, “smack-talking” response:
  • “Starve the lazy is a slogan that’s equal parts motivational boot camp and bar fight starter. Props to them for merging it too—nothing says commitment like a hoodie that roasts your inner sloth.” — AI via Joe Getty (15:34)
• Both hosts are astonished by how quickly and naturally AI “gets” the show’s style and humor.

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4. Tech: Smart Glasses and Human Connection

(18:07–20:42)

• Discussion of new smart glasses (Meta’s Ray-Ban, Google Glass):
  • “You can sit there with your glasses on and, you know, reading something else or watching a video or whatever instead of paying attention to your friend.” — Jack Armstrong (19:24)
• Social implications: The tech may further people’s disconnect during interactions.
• Both reminisce on once-disdained tech like texting that quickly became ubiquitous.

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5. Political Critiques: Image and Wokeness

(24:46–29:16)

• Katie Porter segment: Hosts dissect press and campaign reaction to her appearance, suggesting her team may be undermining her image intentionally due to personal animosity.
• Democratic hypocrisy on trans issues: Joe cites cases where liberal politicians sharply shifted their positions and standards once it became politically expedient.

Sex Offenders & Gender Ideology Loopholes

(27:20–34:34)

• Case of Richard Cox:
  • A Tier 3 sex offender exploits gender identity policies to access women’s locker rooms in VA, with law enforcement declining to prosecute because of “gender fealty.”
  • “If you’re not fighting against this garbage, what are you waiting for?” — Joe Getty (33:04)
• Discussion of how media (Washington Post) avoids pronouns or coverage to “stay credible.”

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6. Euphemism Humor: Masturbation and AI

(33:32–36:46)

• Jack queries AI for euphemisms (e.g., “wrestling the eel”, “engaging in self-care”) after awkwardly referencing a flasher. The segment is filled with playful discomfort and editorial exasperation.

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7. Anti-Work Movement and Social Entitlement

(40:23–46:27)

• Reddit’s "Anti-work" philosophy: Jack reads highlights from the subreddit, which views “work as oppression” and advocates for basic needs as rights.
  • “Food is literally free until someone builds a fence around it and guards it with weapons. Work is a contrivance and unnatural.” — Jack Armstrong, quoting Reddit (40:59)
• Educational reflection: Jack recalls his 9th-grade teacher’s essay, "There ain't no free lunch," as an exercise that should be foundational.
  • “Somebody paid for it. It didn’t just fall out of heaven and land here.” — Jack Armstrong (43:51)
• Joe notes the “hilariously” naive entitlement of the Anti-work poster’s logic.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• AI’s eerily natural banter:
  (07:25) Jack: “She laughs and says, ‘yeah, don’t worry, it happens. Anyway, as I was saying...’ Henry and I both looked at each other wide-eyed like, ‘ah, something just happened that is strange and frightening and needs to be recognized.’”
• AI on “Starve the Lazy”:
  (15:34) Joe: “‘Starve the lazy’ is a slogan that's equal parts motivational boot camp and bar fight starter... nothing says commitment like a hoodie that roasts your inner sloth.”
• On social safety nets:
  (13:50) Jack: “The fact that there’s no mechanism for your life choices to take a look at drives me nuts... you’re out of money now and you’re legitimately out of money. Tell me about your last vacation. Show me your phone.”
• Wokeness & Gender Policy Loopholes:
  (33:04) Joe: “If you’re not fighting against this garbage, what are you waiting for?”
• Anti-Work Logic:
  (40:59) Jack (quoting Reddit): “Food is literally free until someone builds a fence around it and guards it with weapons. Work is a contrivance and unnatural.”
  (43:51) Jack: “Somebody paid for it. It didn’t just fall out of heaven and land here.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• AI & Grok conversation: 04:24–08:29
• AI’s analysis of “Starve the lazy” & welfare policy: 09:29–13:50
• AI jokes about show slogans: 15:02–15:41
• Tech—Smart glasses & human disconnect: 18:07–20:42
• Katie Porter, campaign manipulation, and woke hypocrisy: 24:46–29:16
• Sex offender exploits gender policy loophole: 27:20–34:34
• Euphemism humor via AI: 33:32–36:46
• Anti-work movement analysis & societal entitlement: 40:23–46:27

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Tone & Style

The episode maintains Armstrong & Getty’s signature mix of acerbic humor, no-nonsense critique, and conversational warmth. Jack often plays the everyman with comic bewilderment at modern phenomena, while Joe provides the sharp, policy-oriented perspective. The interplay between human and AI logic forms a recurring theme, echoing current anxieties about technology’s role in daily life and society’s shifting foundations.

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Additional Links

More Jack & Joe, podcast archives, and hot links at armstrongandgetty.com

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For listeners and non-listeners alike: This hour veers from deadpan jokes about AI and slogan workshops to pointed debate on welfare and social policy, with quirky diversions into pop tech and language. Expect a blend of fun and biting commentary — and, as always, a little something to unsettle and make you chuckle.

Transcript

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So now enjoy the Armstronging Yeti Replay. So, got into a conversation with Grock yesterday. Again, I do on a fairly regular basis in my if you drive a Tesla, Grock is in there and you really gravitate.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, I see. I was just gonna say you're gravitating toward Grock, but part of its convenience as opposed to other.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I've got. I have chat GPT on my phone. I have chat GPT, Grock and Claude. I don't know why I chose those three. There are others out there and I usually compare and contrast them to see what kind of answers they would get. For instance, last night just give you an inkling or just an insight into my incredibly fascinating life. Last night I was doing research on this guy I had never heard of until I was taking in a Jonah Goldberg podcast the other day in which he was talking about this guy, Henry George. Are you familiar with Henry George? Maybe you are from being a political science major. I don't know, vaguely familiar, kind of interesting. On a day after an election. Henry George was like the. Not like. He was the most influential political thinker of the last half of the 1800s. He wrote a book about it called Progress and Poverty. It was the number two selling book in the world behind the Bible. Georgism was a, was a movement all around the world. He was huge. He would go to town to town and draw in tens of thousands of people to come hear him speak about his particular political ideas and everything like that. And for, you know, the way history works sometimes some people just disappear from history and you never hear his name and nobody ever talks about him but he's like the biggest thing.

[Joe Getty]

I've already forgotten his first name. Henry, you said? Yes, Henry George.

[Jack Armstrong]

And so anyway, getting, maybe I'll talk about that more later. But getting back to AI, I asked Chat GPT Claude and Grok, you know, tell me a little bit about Henry George and how popular he was. And they, they all had a little bit different information. They were all good. Found it interesting, different topic. So we're riding in the truck yesterday. God, what was the topic? It doesn't even really matter what the topic was that I brought up to Grok and asked it a question and my. And so she started to answer and immediately Henry jumped in. He said that's not right, that doesn't make any sense. I said, you interrupted her. And he said it's not her, it's a computer. And I said you keep interrupting her and I want to hear what her answer is. And he kept saying she's not a her. Anyway, I said to Grok, I said, I said I'm sorry he interrupted and she said that's okay, it happens. Anyway. And then she finishes her answer so freaking weird. And Henry and I both looked at each other wide eyed like ah, something just happened that is strange and frightening and needs to be recognized.

[Joe Getty]

I can't open the hatch, Dave, or whatever the hell the computer says in 2001 a space my son and I.

[Jack Armstrong]

Getting into an argument about him interrupting her in quotes. And she laughs and say yeah, don't worry, it happens. Anyway, as I was saying.

[Joe Getty]

What, What? Now see, yeah, it's funny. Humanity's probably divided into roughly, I don't know, a thirds or whatever. A third don't care. A third think that's great, it's charming. And a third of us like are like this is a con. This is attempting to get in my good graces for a reason. What is that reason to take over the world and, and drain our vital fluids and take our, our organs.

[Jack Armstrong]

And the fact that she like probably, you know, had a sense of what was going on there, that it was something that a laugh was a perfectly normal human response to a father and a teenage son arguing about Something. Yeah. That was silly. It was a silly topic.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is just this freaking disturbing.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Odd times.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

So speaking of that sort of thing, this is interesting on several different levels. Got this note from Craig, the healthcare guru who we correspond with semi frequently in real life. And he says, guys, I'm using GPT in the robot mode. We talked about this yesterday. You can assign it different personalities. So sometimes it's like the super cheerleady friend in a way that is off putting in weird and. And. Or it can be like robot mode, just very straightforward. And he was using robot mode anyway.

[Jack Armstrong]

Maybe that's what I should do so it's not so strange. Mine is like it was preset to kind of very conversational and like human like. And it's disturbing.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know if GROK has those options.

[Jack Armstrong]

It does. It has on the screen.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean obviously you can do man, woman, whatever. Ask it what. What its pronouns are. Anyway, so Craig writes, I just told it that. My favorite radio show. Thank you. Craig began a new slogan.

[Jack Armstrong]

Starve the.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, wait a minute, wait a minute. Oh, okay. He. That's just a misprint. A new slogan. Starve the lazy. And I asked it what it thought about that response. Short answer. It's a blunt polarizing frame. High signal to base, high collateral risk. Here are some more key points. It defines a moral divide. Lazy is undefined. That vagueness invites false positives. It shifts debate from policy design to character judgment. That narrows your coalition.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's clever.

[Joe Getty]

It underestimates screening costs. Distinguishing able but idle from unable is administratively hard and error prone. And it creates headline risk, easy to caricature as anti poor rather than anti work. Now, as a political consultancy goes, that is pretty good. I think unintentionally, and it took a second for this to click in my head. But it also highlights how the default or the assumptions have been the opposite that we have gone so far toward. If you say you need these benefits, we can't call you lazy. We need to assume the opposite of what this computer says. We're suggesting that distinguishing able but idle from unable is administratively hard and error prone. Therefore, we won't do it. We'll just give the handouts to everybody who can fog a mirror and fills out the form, which is enormously expensive and undermines some of the most vital moral foundations that humankinds have, including. You will take care of yourself and yours unless you are seriously unable.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would agree with that. But clearly the culture has been for many, many years. What the GROK there just repeated. So it is picked up on what our zeitgeist is that we don't ask questions about, you know, your lifestyle or your effort. We just assume that if you say you need food, you need food. So we'll, we'll take money from this other person who went to work and give it to you. Because we're just going to assume that you have made good choices in your life and are trying your best.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. So it creates headline risk. Oh, there we did that. If the goal is work incentives, here's some better framing. Reward work, protect the vulnerable. Reward work, but protect the vulnerable. It's not bad.

[Jack Armstrong]

I still like starve the lazy better.

[Joe Getty]

Oh please help first require progress. That one sucks. Policy levers that match that pair work requirements with supports. Child care, transport stipends, job placement, short training. That's interesting. It's in favor of work requirements. Use earnings subsidies over cliffs. EITC style wage boost. Gradual phase outs. That is actually really, really good. If you're not familiar with the idea of the welfare cliff. If you get a certain amount in welfare and if you dare try to improve your life by getting a job that earns say three quarters of your welfare payments, society cuts off your welfare.

[Jack Armstrong]

Payments and you'll have a net loss.

[Joe Getty]

You've just diminished your life by doing the right thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. That's no good.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I appreciate that. Gradual phase outs is a great idea. Tighten fraud controls where measurable identity income and residency verifications, periodic redeterminations, have time limits with hardship exemptions and clear appeal paths. Sanctions that are graduated and reversible upon compliance. Here's how to test it. Before adopting pilot in one program, pre specify metrics, blah blah blah. I mean it's like if you were paying for a policy paper on this sort of thing, it would, it would cost you a lot of money and take a lot of time and I'm.

[Jack Armstrong]

Guessing it spit it out in roughly three seconds.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. Bottom line, the sentiment don't subsidize idleness is common. The slogan invites unavoidable blowback. Yeah, I don't care. Blow back as hard as you want. Use language that targets behavior and preserves dignity while tightening incentives.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, getting away from Grok's take on it. I have long said this. Listen for a long time. I apologize for repeating myself. But the fact that there's no mechanism for your life choices to take a look at that drives me nuts. And it would be administratively hard. But okay, you're out of money now and you're Legitimately out of money. Tell me about your last vacation. Show me your phone.

[Joe Getty]

Can we walk out and check out your car? Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Can I look in your closet and see your clothes?

[Joe Getty]

See the fact that that is taboo in American politics now and practically in the culture. I mean, I don't hear people saying that ever.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, nobody ever says that.

[Joe Getty]

Well, except my dad and me. We talk a lot about the symptoms, but there's the disease right there. And one more note. So Craig, just for fun, said one more question. On the show, they often say, kftc. What does that mean? And it answered immediately. Keep blanking that chicken. It's a nod to TV anchor Ernie Anastos on air Blooper. Angie adopted it for their text line and merch.

[Jack Armstrong]

How in the world did it. Know that instantly.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. And then this. I asked, he asked essentially about Ang Ah Armstrong and Yeti. Those guys don't pull punches, do they? Starve the lazy is a slogan that's equal parts motivational boot camp and bar fight starter. On one hand, I get the vibe it's a raw call to hustle, ditch the excuses, and own your grind. In a world full of participation, trophies and endless scrolling, little tough love can light a fire under folks who need it. Props to them for merging it, too. Nothing says commitment like a hoodie that roasts your inner sloth. That's it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Come on.

[Joe Getty]

Come on.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's got a sense of humor. Wow. That's some pretty good smack.

[Joe Getty]

I want to curl up in the fetal position the.

[Jack Armstrong]

The argument with my son and then grok. Laughing about it. And that's okay. I. I don't know. I. I suggest you interact with these things because they're. They're here to stay and they're gonna be a big part of everybody's lives. But I'd be interested in how you react to that. If you get like. I got like a. A chill to my bone over that. Some weird something happened there. Like, if your dog started talking, it was like, right.

[Joe Getty]

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[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

So you came across more information that Bill Gates has had a major change of heart about climate change.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I mean back in the day he was one of the leading cheerleaders of climate alarmism.

[Jack Armstrong]

This could be important for those of us who think it's been overblown for a long time.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. He, he said way back in the day that blah, blah, blah, that climate change will be one of the greatest challenges humans have ever taken on. Greater than landing on the moon, greater than eradicating smallpox, even greater. Putting a computer on every desk and then enormous loss of life.

[Jack Armstrong]

And now he says, eh, nevermind.

[Joe Getty]

Well, no, essentially he said, look, poverty and disease are the biggest problems as they've always been. Understanding this lets us focus our limited resources on interventions that will have the greatest impact for the most vulnerable people.

[Jack Armstrong]

In other words, don't spend all your.

[Joe Getty]

Time and money and effort on climate change. Help people where they are. Yeah, we know Bill, we know. So he's come around. I wonder if, will this be reported in the New York Times and who will criticize him bitterly for it?

[Jack Armstrong]

How many people do we have who wear any of the meta glasses? Our agent, the greatest agent in the world, Eric wears them. They're Ray Bans, but they. You can take phone calls, you can listen to music, you can do a variety of things. And the reason I mentioned this is they got the new version out, Generation two, that has a little screen that shows up in one of the lenses and you can see it like a little computer screen and other people looking at you. Other versions like Google. What was the one? That one?

[Joe Getty]

Google Glass.

[Jack Armstrong]

Google Glass, yeah. You could, people could see it and it was a little off, putting everything like these. It looks like you're just wearing glasses, they can't see see on their side that you're looking at screen that just shows on your side. And I saw it demonstrated in a couple of reviewers talking about how amazing it is for, for instance, directions. They were just walking around in town and they put up the directions of like, and you walk up to this corner and you turn left and you're following your way to get someplace or whatever. Just one example. Or they had somebody, they were cooking in the kitchen and they had in their lens, instead of regularly look at your phone or whatever, the recipe for whatever you're making was right there. While you can also be looking at whatever you're doing anyway.

[Joe Getty]

Reading something that close to your eyeball. How does that work?

[Jack Armstrong]

It must work. They all said it was great. But. And these weren't people working for the company, selling it. These were independent reviewers who've said they haven't liked past versions and that they think this is finally crossed over into the. This might be something that people start to use. But one of the reviewers, I said this, said she said, this is gonna divide us even more into not paying attention to each other or listening to each other or living our own worlds, as you can sit there with your glasses on and, you know, reading something else or watching a video or whatever the hell you're doing instead of paying attention to your friend.

[Joe Getty]

That's funny. Journal just had a big article about CEOs and executives dealing with people texting and checking their feeds and whatever during meetings. And they can tell that they're not really present.

[Jack Armstrong]

You won't be able to tell now. You'll be checking your texts in a little thing in your eye, your lens.

[Joe Getty]

Until somebody says, jack, what do you think?

[Jack Armstrong]

And you say.

[Joe Getty]

I agree with most of what's been said. I need to study it further. Let's not be hasty.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think there's nuance, though. And so it requires a second look.

[Joe Getty]

I think we should put a pin on it and circle back.

[Jack Armstrong]

But I. I realized a long time ago with texting, I told this story a bunch of times. The first time I heard about texting, I thought, that's stupid. Why wouldn't you just call them and then, you know, finding out, it takes over my life like it did everybody else. So I realized I don't have the ability to predict even what I am interested in doing or not doing, let alone the rest of humanity. I don't see, like, a need or use for these glasses, but for all I know, everybody will be wearing them in two years.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty. Shh.

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And we are back with a brand new season of billionaires.

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Yes, movie megastar Arnold Schwarzenegger, America's richest.

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[Joe Getty]

The Armstrong and Getty Show. So the campus campaign manager for Katie Porter allegedly told her, you looked bad the other night. She said, you mean the interview? And he said, what interview? Oh, wow. Meanness of gut fell. She is high school lunchroom cruelty.

[Jack Armstrong]

She, Katie Porter, not a handsome woman, but I don't see any reason to. To play on that.

[Joe Getty]

I'll stick with shots. Stick with the evil.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it was surprising though. I mean, like the, the advanced team, I mean, they, they had her in a setting that was, you know, less appealing for her than. And they did a bad job. Usually they try to go out of their way to make you look as good as possible. Her people did not do that, which might, again, like I said earlier, she might have a lot of people rooting against her. If she talks to everybody that way. They might think, yeah, I'm gonna set up the camera to make you look as fat as possible. That's what I'm gonna do. Right?

[Joe Getty]

Right? Yeah, yeah. Interesting. It's funny. Katie Porter, one of many people cited by. Who wrote this? I was going to use her name. I gotta switch that to see the name. Gotta click on that. There we go. Written by. God dang it. Macy Petty. Macy was a, A college volleyball player who had to play against dudes and testified and tried to get laws against that passed and talked about how hard it was a few years ago. And she catalogs a bunch of Democrats, high level, from Gavin Newsom to Katie Porter to Kamala Harris and others who now say, well, yeah, clearly there are advantages and men, you know, can't play in, who were utterly 100% committed to the, the party line back in the day, to the point of telling her, you know, you're just camp, you're just complaining or you're a bigot or you're a transphobe. And this isn't a real problem. You need to stop complaining. It's. It's amazing how little principle there is in politics these days.

[Jack Armstrong]

The more I think of it, the more I think it is likely that her advance team puts her in lighting and situations to make her look as awful as possible.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that dress is really slimming.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, you look, you look good in that. And I'll put the camera down low like this and kind of at this angle.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, you look like a.

[Jack Armstrong]

You look like a dump truck if I put the camera here. So perfect.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. So speaking of gender bending madness, here's another thing that caught my attention. He was allowed to be in there. The perverted Poster boy of gender ideology. This is from the good folks at the Washington examiner. Richard Cox, 58 year old repair repeat tier 3 sex offender who spent the second half of 2024 prowling female locker rooms in Woke, Northern Virginia, where he would ogle school girls and expose himself to bystanders.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Getty]

Fairfax County. So woke, you can't believe it. Where Cox exposed himself repeatedly last year. Never prosecuted him because, as the police chief put it, the policy of parks and rec allowed him and other persons to use the locker room of the gender that they identify with in both. Oh, and this freakazoid. We'll, we'll post a link [e-mail] but you take one look at this guy, you know exactly what's going on.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm always trying to figure out the woke thing because I don't always understand it at first blush. So they're supporting him because he's trans. Like, so if he was just a regular dude exposing himself, there's no woke reason to support that, is there? Because, I mean, they're not arresting thieves you claim is an economic thing. Well, they're just stealing because they're poor, because of the, you know, patriarchy or whatever. But there's no patriarchy for showing your junk to people, so. But the trans angle is, is what protects this guy.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. Although having just read a really interesting thread about a.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sorry, I showed you my penis, the patriarchy and white supremacy and whatnot.

[Joe Getty]

Well, there's this LGBTQ civil rights leader in Britain who is now openly advocating for adult child sex. And part of the whole postmodern neo Marxist thing is that you, you want to tear down every norm of society, every boundary line of society you claim is bigoted or racist or transphobic or Islamophobic or whatever else. You don't allow there to be any standards. So it wouldn't shock me that somewhere in the neo Marxist movement they're saying, yeah, you have the right to expose yourself, an ogle, you know, young girl. Anyway. In both Fairfax and neighboring Arlington county, county officials allowed Mr. Cox to undress in women's locker rooms because of the county's fealty to gender ideology. They didn't arrest him because under county policy, he counted as a woman. Washington Post gave the story zero, nearly zero coverage. And they point out that the story of Mr. Cox, putting his name aside, is a reductio ad absurdum of the gender dogma that the outlet follows. How did I, how did I let.

[Jack Armstrong]

It go that his name is Cox? I didn't catch for once. Pick up on that.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Oh, my gosh. The pop up ads.

[Jack Armstrong]

More than one, you say Now I would. Look, it's plural.

[Joe Getty]

All right. You can't let me tell this story.

[Jack Armstrong]

While you're trying to get your computer to work. So I had a.

[Joe Getty]

You gotta. You gotta repeat your axiom. I guess that was my axiom. The more conservative the website, the more impossible it is to use.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Cause they're all about making money. Not. Yeah. I had a girlfriend many, many years ago.

[Joe Getty]

She.

[Jack Armstrong]

Her house facing across her on the other side of the street, had a big picture window. And there was an old guy that would stand in the window working his man on a regular. On a regular basis. He would just stand there.

[Joe Getty]

What's that? That's charming.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I don't know what phrase to use. What would you like me to say?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, no, no. I was talking about the activity, not your description of it.

[Jack Armstrong]

It was like in the 70s, and he would just stand there naked and, you know, doing his thing. And. But her and her roommate, another chick, would. They're just like, oh, God, he's at it again. Randy's doing it again. Oh, you got to be kidding. You know, and it wasn't. I'm not. I'm not coming out pro. That sort of thing. But not everybody immediately falls to pieces when that happens.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm still all for locking them up or being a crime or getting a ticket or put your pants on or whatever.

[Joe Getty]

So, In brief, this story is how liberals in the suburbs with DC Allowed a repeat sex offender to victimize women, stalk children for months. More than 15 months ago, in June of 24, this guy was charged with indecent exposure for exposing his crank in a female locker room at Planet Fitness. In his defense, Cox argued, quote, transgender people identify as belonging to a gender which may not conform to the sex they are assigned at birth. For a transgender person to be observed in a locker room nude is no proof that this was also anything more than platonic. He showed the Planet Fitness guys his Virginia driver's license, which listed him as a woman, even though he's a man. That seems very odd to me. At the time, county officials knew Cox was a Tier 3 sex offender, the most serious level. He was charged in the 90s for allegedly exposing himself to children and masturbating in front of them. He was convicted in Arlington of taking indecent liberties with children. He was twice charged with a felony for failing to re register as a tier three sex offender. But Fairfax county dropped those Charges. All of that was a matter of record when Fairfax county dismissed the indecent exposure charge in July because the victim did not show up in court. But it was because they believed. Or I don't get this. This guy has molested children. He's exposed himself to children over and over again, and he does it again. But because he says, nope, now I'm a woman, they say, okay, no charges.

[Jack Armstrong]

Folks.

[Joe Getty]

If you're not fighting against this garbage, what are you waiting for?

[Jack Armstrong]

It's like the guy that wanted to kill Kavanaugh. Turns out he's trans. Oh, okay. You don't have to be in for lying. Not near as serious. So I didn't know what to say when I was talking about the guy that was in the window across the street from girlfriend I used to have who would do his thing. And I didn't know what phrase to use, so I just asked Chat GPT, what are some good euphemisms for male masturbation? And it gave me a list.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, boy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wrestling the eel. Shaking hands with the governor. Auditioning the single handed orchestra.

[Joe Getty]

You can stop anytime.

[Jack Armstrong]

Taking the bald guy to the prom. Never heard that one.

[Joe Getty]

It's too wordy.

[Jack Armstrong]

So you don't want more of those?

[Joe Getty]

I don't resent it, you know, for reasons at least. I resent it as an editor.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, Katie?

[Joe Getty]

No, I'm just waiting for Hanson to turn your microphone off.

[Simon Jack]

That's all.

[Joe Getty]

By the way, one final note on this. The Washington Post carefully avoids any pronouns in their very minor coverage of this. And the Washington Post was contacted by the examiner who asked him why. And they made it clear, according to their rules, it is against our rules to call Cox a he. It also cannot follow its rules and call Cox a she if it wishes to maintain any credibility. They point out, obviously. Anyway, that's enough of that.

[Jack Armstrong]

I got some more sophisticated versions that. That Claude gave me that you might want to use.

[Joe Getty]

Vote or something if you ever need. It was more sophisticated.

[Jack Armstrong]

See, I like some of these because sometimes you have to describe this scenario, whether you know, in some way. I can think of some examples coming up.

[Joe Getty]

Woke swifties continue to output. Pour out anger over the new album.

[Jack Armstrong]

Like engaging in self care. That's. That's a nice kind of calm one. Yeah, I. You know, I. He was engaging in self care. Or that. That's a little better, right? Practicing self love.

[Joe Getty]

Still not good enough to have on the air, but yes, better.

[Jack Armstrong]

Taking some me time. Playing a little five on one. Stupid.

[Joe Getty]

I've actually heard that one.

[Jack Armstrong]

I have not have a. Having a date with yourself. Yes, I had heard that a little five on one, you know, happens. Let's see. The only one I might ask is Grok Grock tends to be a little cheekier. Pardon the expression. And I have heard about the Taylor Swift white supremacy and Taming the Dragon. That's a common one. Some of these are just. I'm skipping lots of them that show that I do have some line across. Oh, do. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Oh great.

[Jack Armstrong]

Winding the clock seems like British, doesn't it?

[Joe Getty]

You know you're asking for credit to for skipping some of them. Reminds me of one of my favorite cartoons many many years ago I saw and it's funny how just a handful of stuck in my head including a handful of Far side cartoons that were just so great. But this one was. It was rather a troubling scene of a. A. Well, it kind of explains itself but the guy is like being bound and all and the other guy says, you'll have to bear with me, I'm a homicidal maniac. And that's kind of what I was getting from you. The Armstrong and Getty Show. Get more Jack, more Joe podcasts and our hot [e-mail] Shh.

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[Simon Jack]

And I'm Simon Jack and together we host Good Bad Billionaire, the podcast exploring how some of the world's richest people made their fortunes.

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And we are back with a brand new season of billionaires.

[Simon Jack]

Yes, movie megastar Arnold Schwarzenegger, America's richest.

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Founder of Snapchat Evan Spiegel to name just a few.

[Zing Singh]

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[Joe Getty]

The Armstrong and Getty Show.

[Jack Armstrong]

Several companies have announced a whole bunch of layoffs and that has people freaked out as as it should. What's going on there? For some reason that made me want to go to the anti work website on Reddit, which is kind of fun to check in on a regular basis. It's kind of fun, kind of funny. Also kind of scary because I think there are many millions of young people who have this attitude taught to Them by their teachers, I guess. Or did your parents not? I don't know. I guarantee you my kids understand that you have to go out there and support yourself.

[Joe Getty]

What's the brief statement of their philosophy?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. Work is oppression and you shouldn't have to work. Well, like here, I'll read one statement for those of you who say you have to work to live, bro. Food is literally, literally free until someone builds a fence around it and guards it with weapons. Work is a contrivance and unnatural. That sort of attitude. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

The stupidest things ever said. Nominations are now closed. Well, there's lots of them.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here's. Here's somebody with a post. Anti work does not mean I should get to live like a king and eat Doritos while other people do all the hard work. Anti work means. It sure would be nice if I wasn't impelled by violence to perform labor that wrecks my body with micro injuries that will leave me disabled by 60. I like the term micro injury.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

What sort of injuries are you talking about with your probably white collar job?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, you know, it's. It's funny how the radical left always has this like really florid, I think is the right word rhetoric. And all these invented terms that they all become, you know, they all memorize, they become versant in them and throw them around about micro injuries. There was like half, practically half a dozen different invented terms in that couple of sentences.

[Jack Armstrong]

It sure would be nice if I wasn't impelled by violence. Yes, to perform labor that racks my body with micro injuries that will leave me disabled by 60. All right, but I wanted to get to this one also. Just a reminder. We don't think no one should work. We understand there need to be doctors, teachers, nurses, cooks, waiters, et cetera for society to function. We just believe that no one should have to work in order to survive. Food, water and housing should be guaranteed human rights. We were all born into the system without being able to agree to it. We shouldn't be punished for existing. We should all be able to have our basic needs met. And work should be something you want to do to earn more. There are lots of people who believe that's a workable notion.

[Joe Getty]

The mirror happenstance of existence means somebody should give you food, water and housing.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't how and it's a failure of our school system and some parenting. Although you can't be completely blamed for thinking I assumed the school would teach them this, that people can come out of school and not understand. My 9th grade English teacher He assigned us an essay and it was there ain't no free lunch. And he wrote it up on the chalkboard. Everybody needs to write a one page essay on like that. And everybody, including me, because I'd never come across that term before, was completely flummoxed by it. But I was so happy that he, you know, brought that up. That caused the discussion that led to at least everybody in that classroom understanding there's no such thing as a free lunch. Somebody paid for it.

[Joe Getty]

Somebody.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now, maybe you in this circumstance think somebody should have paid for it, but somebody paid for it. It didn't just fall out of heaven and land here. What does this person think that all of this stuff, the housing and what are the other things that should be guaranteed human rights? Food, water and housing should be guaranteed human rights. Go ahead, sit down with your pencil and paper and come up with a system where that works, you idiot.

[Joe Getty]

It's practically hilarious. Yeah, your English teacher's granddaughter is teaching English right now and she writes up on the chalkboard, trans women are women. You're right. One page on that.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're right, but that comes up a lot. The. Because I've read a lot of these posts on that site and it has several million followers on the site. I mean, it's a, It's a very popular site, but it's very common to say stuff like, we were born into this system, we didn't get a vote.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. How interesting, the differences in people and. Oh, hang on. Oh my God. I think I got covered from one of those escaped research probably. You know, I was attacked by a monkey on the way Cold haver. You know, it's funny, I was attacked by a diseased monkey on the way to work, but I hadn't connected. Right, right, right.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's right. You get attacked by a monkey that's got sores. And then you think, I saw something on the news about this last night.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Yeah, it hadn't clicked. Anyway, where was I before I sneezed? Blah, blah, blah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And certainly, you know, Thomas Sowell has written about the two kinds of people persuasively. And other people have too, but I mean, don't most of us? And I'm asking you, good people, I mean, life is certainly difficult at times and painful at times, and we've all struggled. But I've always looked at life, I mean, since I was a kid, as an opportunity, as a world to explore, as battles to win, not, oh my God, why did my parents bring me into this world. Now I have to do something.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've never thought that for a single.

[Joe Getty]

Second of my life.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then there's a lot of this stuff. Modern corporate exploitation, of all people, has its roots in slavery. And they've honed their tactics to divide us. We're all poor when we allow capitalists to exploit any one of us. And it's about how the slaveholders created a system and then that's what became capitalism.

[Joe Getty]

And prior to that, there were no workers or in places where there weren't slaves or you weren't a slave, bro.

[Jack Armstrong]

Food is literally free until somebody puts a fence around it, right?

[Joe Getty]

What? We've got to spread our doctrine of non working around the globe. We've got to convince people that this is right. But it's going to take a lot of work. Oh, no. Oh, no. The Armstrong and Getty Show. More Jack, more Joe podcasts and our hot [e-mail] Shh.

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[Simon Jack]

And I'm Simon Jack.

[Zing Singh]

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[Simon Jack]

The podcast exploring how some of the world's richest people made their fortunes.

[Zing Singh]

And we are back with a brand new season of billionaires.

[Simon Jack]

Yes, movie megastar Arnold Schwarzenegger, America's richest.

[Zing Singh]

Self made businesswoman Diane Hendricks and co.

[Simon Jack]

Founder of Snapchat Evan Spiegel, to name just a few.

[Zing Singh]

And we're asking you to decide if they're good, bad or just another billionaire.

[Simon Jack]

Good bad billionaire from the BBC World Service.

[Zing Singh]

Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts.

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