A&G Replay Tuesday Hour Two

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand Episode Summary: A&G Replay Tuesday Hour Two Release Date: April 22, 2025

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Introduction

In this episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand, Hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty engage in their characteristic blend of humor, personal anecdotes, and sharp commentary on contemporary societal issues. Despite the absence of co-host Katie due to illness, the dynamic between Jack and Joe remains lively as they navigate through various topics ranging from everyday frustrations to media critiques.

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Customer Engagement and Social Interactions

Engaging with Customers: Jack Armstrong opens the discussion by expressing his frustration with unsolicited conversations from service personnel, such as grocery store cashiers. He shares a relatable scenario where a cashier's lack of engagement leaves him feeling disconnected.

• Jack Armstrong [01:10]: "People that try to engage you in conversation, like the person ringing you up at the grocery store... I feel less likely to come back."

Generational Differences: The conversation shifts to generational habits, particularly the younger generation's penchant for wearing earpieces and tuning out their surroundings. Jack recounts an incident at a dollar store with his son, highlighting differing perspectives on social interactions.

• Jack Armstrong [02:14]: "The next generation... they'll all have your pieces in, and they won't expect any communication whatsoever because they're all listening to music or a podcast."

• Joe Getty [03:57]: "But I didn't realize it had gotten that bad."

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Isolation in Modern Society

Impact of Technology: Katie (via a text message) contributes to the conversation by discussing the pervasive isolation resulting from constant connectivity and the relentless pursuit of pleasure. She speculates on the future implications of these trends, foreseeing a society where genuine human interaction becomes scarce.

• Katie [04:14]: "It's just gonna happen. But it makes me nuts."

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Professional Interactions and Communication Preferences

Dental Appointments: The hosts delve into the nuances of professional interactions, particularly in settings like dental appointments. Jack criticizes dental hygienists who engage in unnecessary chatter, while Katie emphasizes the importance of allowing patients to dictate the level of interaction they prefer.

• Jack Armstrong [05:22]: "If I'm not a person that wants to talk, so don't feel like you have to."

• Katie [06:01]: "A good one will get a sense from the patient whether they want to talk or be quiet."

Personal Experiences: Jack shares a poignant story about his son's anxiety during blood draws, highlighting the emotional challenges faced by families and the importance of sensitive communication from medical professionals.

• Jack Armstrong [08:22]: "He could not believe that it bothered me that she had an earpiece in and didn't respond to me because that's the way his generation does it."

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Media Critique: 60 Minutes Interview with Kamala Harris

FCC Release and Editing Controversy: A significant portion of the episode focuses on the controversial 60 Minutes interview with Vice President Kamala Harris. The hosts discuss the Federal Communications Commission's (FCC) release of the full, unedited interview amidst a lawsuit filed by former President Trump, alleging intentional news distortion.

• Jack Armstrong [18:43]: "The FCC had requested these materials as part of an investigation into a complaint alleging, 'intentional news distortion.'"

Editing Practices: Jack and Katie critique the media's editing practices, arguing that condensing lengthy responses into brief clips can misrepresent the subject's intent and message.

• Katie [11:10]: "That's greeting card rhetoric. I mean, he's not wrong. Exactly, but that's the sort of thing people say because they don't want to engage in the really difficult decisions of adulthood, of reality."

Legal and Ethical Implications: The discussion extends to the legal ramifications for CBS and the broader media landscape. The hosts express skepticism about the lawsuit's outcome, suggesting it will likely be dismissed and may not lead to significant changes in media practices.

• Jack Armstrong [22:32]: "It's just a dollars and cents question. Often."

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Personal Anecdotes and Reflections

Technical Difficulties: Towards the end of the episode, Jack experiences a momentary lapse during the live broadcast, struggling to articulate his thoughts. Both hosts humorously address the mishap, showcasing their camaraderie and ability to handle unexpected challenges with grace.

• Jack Armstrong [31:06]: "I have never felt physically this... Something happened with my jaw and my tongue."

Tribute to Mia Love: Katie shares a heartfelt farewell message from Mia Love, the first black woman Republican elected to the House of Representatives from Utah, who recently passed away from brain cancer. The message reflects on Love's legacy, emphasizing her dedication to personal responsibility and the American Dream.

• Katie [32:53]: "Dear friends, fellow Americans in Utahns, I'm taking up my pen not to say goodbye, but to say thank you..."

• Jack Armstrong [35:12]: "God, I hate to turn this negative, but that's what I do."

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Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts

As the episode draws to a close, the hosts reflect on the challenges facing society, from technological isolation to the state of modern politics. They emphasize the importance of genuine human connection and responsible media consumption, urging listeners to stay informed and engaged.

• Katie [36:43]: "You're right."

• Jack Armstrong [36:42]: "It reminds me of that with the philosophy of you either believe this is a country where you can work hard and make it or you don't."

The episode concludes with light-hearted banter and a tease for future discussions, maintaining the engaging and conversational tone that Armstrong & Getty are known for.

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Notable Quotes

• Jack Armstrong [01:10]: "People that try to engage you in conversation... I feel less likely to come back."

• Jack Armstrong [02:14]: "The next generation... they'll all have your pieces in, and they won't expect any communication whatsoever."

• Katie [04:14]: "It's just gonna happen. But it makes me nuts."

• Jack Armstrong [18:43]: "The FCC had requested these materials as part of an investigation into a complaint alleging, 'intentional news distortion.'"

• Katie [11:10]: "There's no need for that. But, yeah, it's fine."

• Jack Armstrong [31:06]: "I have never felt physically this... Something happened with my jaw and my tongue."

• Katie [32:53]: "Dear friends, fellow Americans in Utahns, I'm taking up my pen not to say goodbye, but to say thank you..."

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Conclusion

This episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand offers a deep dive into the intricacies of social interactions, media ethics, and personal resilience. Through candid conversations and relatable stories, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty provide listeners with insightful perspectives on navigating the complexities of modern life.

Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

Foreign.

[Joe Getty]

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Katie]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Not live from Studio C. Armstrong and Getty. We're off for taking a break. Come on.

[Katie]

Enjoy this carefully curated Armstrong and Getty replay. And as long as we're off, perhaps you'd like to catch up on podcasts, subscribe to Armstrong and Getty on Demand or one more thing. We think you'll enjoy it thoroughly.

[Jack Armstrong]

People that try to engage you in conversation, like the person ringing you up at the grocery store and you know, I'm buying some groceries. I'm buying, I'm buying a gallon of milk and some carrots. So what are your plans for tonight?

[Katie]

And I realized you're gonna drink milk and eat carrots.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is exactly how I answer usually because I'm a smart ass and annoyed by those questions. And I am. I feel bad because it's not their fault. I don't think. I think many times you're told that that will make the customers feel more welcome or something. And like I said on the radio the other day, I wish there was some sort of stamp I could get or thing I could work around my neck or something says, I'm not one of those people. I don't feel more likely to come back. If you engage me in conversation, I feel less likely to come back. It's not your fault.

[Katie]

But I do require the basics of polite society because occasionally you'll be in a place, grocery store maybe not so high end or person's having a bad day and they don't even acknowledge your presence. They just start ringing stuff up.

[Jack Armstrong]

Did we talk about this on the air or not? About the, the person ringing me up who had the earpiece in. Did we talk about that on the air?

[Katie]

I don't think so. No, I don't think so.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm at a dollar store. And because I agree. Hey, how you doing? Good, how are you? Fine.

[Katie]

Gotta have that find everything okay?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yep, that's fine. I have no problem with that whatsoever. The nothing is weird. And so I was checking out the dollar storm with my two boys and check. Hey, how's it going? She says nothing to me and rings me up and I said, have a good day. She said nothing to me and I walked out and I said, that girl shouldn't be working there. If I owned that store, I'd be so freaking pissed off to know that I have somebody working the register that doesn't even say hello. He said, dad, she had her earpiece in. She's listening to music. I said, well, then I'd absolutely freaking fire her. He said that in. My son was like, really taken aback by my response to that. Like, everybody has their earpiece in. It's okay. It's not a big deal. She's listening to music, and my son always has his earpiece in. I mean, always. And I have to tell him, take it out. I want to talk to you. I want to be able to talk to you. I want to know when I talk to you, you can hear me. I mean, if we're riding in the car or whatever. And it's just part of that. That age group, they have it in always with each other. Like, if there's four dudes sitting around talking, they each have an earpiece in, listening to music. I guess while I don't know what that is, if it's. It's just like a fashion thing or if their brain actually desires it. But I thought, when I'm dead, and it won't be long, I'm in the winter of my life. The next generation, they'll all have your pieces in, and they won't expect any communication whatsoever because they're all listening to music or a podcast. And so I guess they'll go through the store, check out. Nobody will talk to each other. You, you know, you ride together in a car somewhere, nobody says a word to each other because you're all listening to your own stuff in your head. It's just gonna happen. There's no stopping it. But it makes me nuts.

[Katie]

But I didn't realize it had gotten that bad.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah, yeah. He couldn't believe that it bothered me that she had an earpiece in and didn't respond to me because that's the way his generation does it.

[Katie]

Yeah, it's shocking to me.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I know, I know.

[Katie]

Well, and it's resulted in so much unmistakable misery and isolation. I just. If I'm. If I'm casting my bets for who's in charge of the world in 200 years, it's the young and hungry and backward civilizations right now. Although they may well as soon as they get hold of the technology and the food. I mean, every country that goes from like 11 cents per capita for GDP to like over A$50, they immediately obese and they adopt all of the modern stuff that's killing us. I just think we've invented our own doom. We've invented too many pleasures to resist.

[Jack Armstrong]

No country for old men. Right. But back to like, People that aren't teenagers, where you expect some sort of normal give and take with the cashier or the dental hygienist came up the other day. Katie brought up. She hates it when they ask her questions. When they got their hands in your mouth because you can't answer. Anyway, Katie's not here today because she's sick, but we got this text about that because we were wondering. I'm sure the dental hygienist is told to make conversation. It makes the patients feel more comfortable or something like that. I don't know.

[Katie]

It helps distract them from things that bother you or scary or whatever. Sure.

[Jack Armstrong]

Longtime listener. This person. Text. Lived in San Francisco for 20 years. I now live in Manhattan. Okay.

[Katie]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

One of those people that. There are only really a couple places you can live in America. Los Angeles, New York, maybe San Francisco or Chicago. But those are your only options. I know a number of people like that. The only places they've lived are those very big cities. But anyway, as a longtime dental hygienist, employers do not tell you to engage in conversation with the patients. Some patients absolutely want us to talk and tell them stories to take their time off the process or their mind off the process.

[Katie]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And a good one will get a sense from the patient whether they want to talk or be quiet. Which I do appreciate that you picked up on my hateful, hateful, murderous vibe that I don't want to talk. I appreciate that it is perfect, perfectly polite to tell us how you want to experience the appointment. It's your money, your time. So tell them, please talk me through this. Help distract me or say, I'd prefer to sit here and just think and stare at the ceiling or listen to a podcast or something. You don't need to talk to me. That's not a bad idea. Just tell them ahead of time. I'm not a person that wants to talk, so don't feel like you have to. I don't know. Does that come off as being a dick?

[Katie]

I would guess among the folks that have bothered me. And when I say bothered me, it's fine. It's really.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah. It's a. Yeah. First world problems. I mean, seriously.

[Katie]

Yeah. If. Yeah. In the list of things that actually bother me, that's way, way, way down. But the gal who I've worked with at times in the past, I'll just say that dental hygienist. I could write a fairly brief but reasonably complete biography of this woman. And. And that is her.

[Jack Armstrong]

Her Boswell to her Johnson. You. You could write a Biography of her having just followed her around.

[Katie]

Yeah. And I just. There's no need for that. But, yeah, it's fine. I just, I. I'm not going to put on they. My old dentist and I've. I've been very fortunate to have had two dentists in the last 30 years. They've both been fantastic. My old dentist, I haven't been to.

[Jack Armstrong]

The dentist in 20 years, so we have that in common.

[Katie]

Wow. But they would give you headphones, but I would always just wear one because they have to communicate with you. Can you tilt your head a little toward me? Great. Or, you know, whatever, open a little less. That's to help them do their thing. And so I've never been comfortable with. And maybe it's my generation with being incommunicado. No, I don't like, have to communicate.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, the one that I hate the most, and this is a different topic, but the one I hate the most, blood draws. And I. Even if I, first of all don't talk about it, and then even if I tell them not to talk about it, most of the time they do. Look, just. I'm fine with this. We'll be okay. Just. I don't want to. Don't talk about it at all. Let's not talk about it still. I'm going to get a. Ooh, you got some juicy veins. This will be easy. Or having trouble finding your veins. It's going to be hard to get the needle into your veins because I need you to clench your.

[Katie]

Yeah, stop talking about it.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right. I don't want to hear a word about it. Let me just sit down, look at the wall, pretend something else is going on. You, Jack, me, I'm finding some people.

[Katie]

And this covers every occupation known to mankind, be they a humble street sweeper or a skilled brain surgeon or something in between. In every profession, Jack, there are dumbasses or people who are so emotionally not intelligent they can't take an effing hint and see it from your perspect.

[Jack Armstrong]

And it's. It's annoying with me, but really annoying with my son who every time but once has thrown up when he gets a blood dry, gets so anxious and nervous and out of control, everything like that. And we have multiple adults have to hold them down. I mean, it's a horrific experience every time we do that. But I go in there ahead of time and say, let's just not talk about it at all. He really struggles with this. I say what I just said and everything like that. And almost all the Time. They say the needle's not that big. See here, look at the needle. It's not gonna. No, no. You effing. Do you not get this?

[Katie]

Wow. Wow. I don't think there's anything you can do for a person like that here.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm going to do. Grab me the needle.

[Katie]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

How do you like it? Suppose you're not supposed to.

[Katie]

So probably not now. But next podcast, I will tell you this. The next One More Thing podcast. The discussion of your disposable dog theory will not die. And. And the. The responses and thoughts and philosophizings getting less interesting. They're getting more interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, cool.

[Katie]

I like to return to Jack's brutal and hateful dispatch of innocent dogs and probably cats at a future date.

[Jack Armstrong]

So more psychopathy on the next One More Thing.

[Katie]

You know, at my next dental appointment, I'm gonna look at the hygienist and say, if you don't mind, while you clean my teeth, tell me about the Cuban Missile crisis.

[Jack Armstrong]

Just give him a topic.

[Katie]

I'm giving my topic.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

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[Katie]

Here's your freedom loving quote of the day. I decided since we were talking about war to look for quotes about war. And the Google AI Overview gave me a couple of dozen in three groups on the futility of war, on. On the human cost of war, on the importance of peace. I like this one. And then I hate it. There is nothing that war has ever achieved that we cannot better achieve without it.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's the dumbest thing. You are a moron if you say that out loud. I would just get up and walk out of the room if an adult said that a lot because you can't engage with them.

[Katie]

No, no. That's a very dopey point of view.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my God.

[Katie]

John Kennedy, on the other hand, what.

[Jack Armstrong]

If the other side wants to go to war? Then what do you do?

[Katie]

We could have better achieved it with peace. Yeah, I just. That's. That is greeting card rhetoric. I mean, he's not wrong. Exactly, but that's. That's the sort of. Sort of thing people say because they don't want to engage in the really difficult decisions of adulthood, of reality. Right, mailbag, drop us a Note. [e-mail].

[Jack Armstrong]

That'S the kind of guy that's gonna watch Top Gun in honor of Val Kilmer as opposed to Tombstone. That guy right there.

[Katie]

That's too harsh. Sideshow Bob writes on the topic of the Wisconsin Supreme Court thing. I guess I'll just call my boss this morning and tell him to F right off. The end of civilization is near, according to Elon. I'm not going to spend what little time we have left working. Good point, Bob. Let's see, Barry from Thailand, who's actually from the US but he's in Thailand, says for all the good Musk has done, he really needs needs to stay under the radar for a while. He's becoming like the brother who lives in the White House. Keep doing good stuff Elon, but quietly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, well the Democrat won there in Wisconsin and how much it had to do with Elon, who knows. But the left then mainstream media is acting like it was a referendum on Elon. Clearly that the whole election was a referendum on Elon. None of us live in Wisconsin and saw all the ads or have any idea what either of the judges are like personality wise or anything like that. Right? It's just a referendum on Elon. If the mainstream media can successfully make it a referendum on elon for the 2026 midterms oh God dang it. You're going to get tired of hearing about Elon Musk.

[Katie]

Oh, too late already. I'm already tired of hearing about him. Not what he's doing, just hearing about it. Yesterday was it Monday? I brought up a read an email from a chap who said hey, the illustration you gave of price controls and socialism by telling a story about a dairy farmer and you couldn't find the right episode. By the way, it's not that you have two cows in communism X in socialism Y. No, that's very good and very funny. But there's something different. So please stop writing those emails.

[Jack Armstrong]

But why buy the cow if the milk is free? Is that one?

[Katie]

No, that's a different one too. Matt writes. Guys, just use ChatGPT. It'll tell you in three seconds. Check out this interaction how easy it was to find the info. Here's what he did what's the episode of Armstrong and Getty where Joe explains socialism by telling a story about a dairy farmer and in a fraction of a second it appears that Joe Getty discussed socialism using a dairy farmer analogy in at least two episodes. The Armstrong and Getty on Demand podcast.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my God.

[Katie]

The first instance is in the episode titled Hell yeah, say that out Loud published approximately seven months ago. Second occurrence is in the Ang Replay Thursday hour four, released about three months ago. In both episodes, Joe uses the example of a dairy farmer to illustrate economic principles related to price controls and government intervention.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's amazing.

[Katie]

And then gives the the date of the the episode so I can find it on Armstrong and Getting on Demand.

[Jack Armstrong]

So in the near future it's going to be. What's the name of that girl? She always wore a ponytail. Sat next to me in fourth grade English class.

[Katie]

That was Jenny Jones, Jack. She's grown up. Cute as a button too. Would you like me to reach out via Facebook?

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Katie]

I hear her marriage is on the rocks. Whoa. Chat GPT.

[Jack Armstrong]

Whoa. She mentioned you the other day to.

[Katie]

A friend and got a far off look in her eye. How about this? Bridget in beautiful Healdsburg, California. Guys, I'm 100% with you on college. Needing a complete, almost uber esque overhaul after completing my sociology degree. Sorry, Joe. At Johns Hopkins. You know, at least one of my kids has a worthless degree. It's just what they were really, really into. Anyway, I had no idea what I wanted to be when I grew up. The best thing that happened to me was joining a consumer products division at a major company where I got to see in real time, in real world what each department of this vertically integrated business did. I got to see sales, operations, finance, production, hr, legal and marketing. After a year I knew that my path was marketing and never looked back. That's what college needs to be. A place where students can be in different work environments to identify their desired path.

[Jack Armstrong]

What was that word in there though? I think that word in there, that's where. That's where the work. Not sure how often that happens.

[Katie]

Yeah, yeah, there's that. Let's see. I've learned more about sleep chronotypes. We can talk about that in a little while.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, we've got. We got a story today Katie dug up about. What was that? Oh, screen time and going to sleep. A new study.

[Katie]

Yeah, Katie's probably a dolphin. Jack is a wolf or a dolphin.

[Jack Armstrong]

In terms of sleeping, I'd rather be.

[Katie]

A hammer than a nail. Let's see. And this is Al Anonymous. I think the cold plunge sounds terrible, but his life changing unheated pool works great.

[Jack Armstrong]

I thought about that the other day. I got a pool in the backyard that's freezing cold right now.

[Katie]

He does it before bedtime.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh God.

[Katie]

Four, three, four days a week.

[Jack Armstrong]

Even if I could do it the first day, I just don't think I could do it the next night. I'd stand there and think why am I doing this?

[Katie]

And then Scott brings up quite correctly that if you're gonna paint a swastik on a car for being a literal Nazi. There's a much better brand nominee. Okay, that old ah himself may have helped get going back in the day in Germany, but they're not freaking Nazis. And neither is Elon. Quit with the swastikas, you morons.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, what's the swastika, Tesla? Is it all because of that wave they claim was a Sieg Heil? Is that the whole thing?

[Katie]

Oh, no, it's. It's that he's banding with Trump and having federal workers fired. That proves he's a Nazi. He's on Trump's side. Trump's a fascist. He's the new Hitler.

[Jack Armstrong]

Where have you been, man? Trying to make government smaller makes you a Nazi.

[Katie]

Everybody knows that. Are you a closeted Nazi yourself? I'm beginning to wonder. I'm gonna paint a swastik on him. Now a quick word from our friends and sponsors at Simplisafe Home security. Or pointing out that with longer daylight hours, you may be spending more time away from the house and giving burglars more opportunities to strike.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Katie]

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[Katie]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

So the New York Times headline is FCC release. This is 60 Minutes interview with Kamala Harris. Remember, she did a big sit down in 60 minutes leading up to the election. Got a lot of, a lot of scrutiny because while she very rarely answered questions. And when she did, it was nonsensical. So it always got a lot of scrutiny. And then we all found out like the next day or very soon thereafter that there was some editing in the promos and this and that. And did they cut one of her answers to make it make her seem less crazy and all that sort of stuff that was out there in the world. But so this 60 minute, this story from the New York Times today, again, fcc, the FCC released this. Not see, I mean, they made CBS get it. FCC releases 60 Minutes interview with Kamala Harris. The complete interview, which is at the center of a lawsuit filed by President Trump, shows that 60 Minutes aired a concise version of Ms. Harris's answer on Israel. Thought it was interesting that the New York Times went with that as kind of the sub headline because if all you look at is that, you certainly come away with the Trump was right, they were wrong. They were trying to screw him. I think that's the way most people are going to take that story. This is the way CBS presented it.

[Bill Whitaker]

Now to some news about CBS itself. 60 Minutes has posted on CBS news.com transcripts and videos from its interview with former Vice President Kamala Harris that aired back in October. The FCC had requested these materials as part of an investigation into a complaint alleging, quote, intentional news distortion, close quote. The issue concerns one question about whether Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was listening to the Biden administration. CBS News broadcast a longer portion of Harris's answer on Face the Nation and then a shorter excerpt of the Same answer on 60 Minutes. In a statement, 60 Minutes said the transcripts and video show, quote, the 60 Minutes broadcast was not doctored or deceitful, close quote. Adding that each excerpt reflects the substance of the vice president's answer, which is.

[Jack Armstrong]

A better story, a better explanation of it than they they're probably not happy at cbs. The way the New York Times boiled it down to one sentence.

[Katie]

Yeah, I guess, I mean, more concise, isn't it? Doesn't strike me as that judgmental either way, honestly.

[Jack Armstrong]

But New York Post version uncut. And we're about to play the actual clips, but uncut. 60 Minutes Kamala Harris interview reveals word salad Responses were heavily edited by 60 minutes snipped Israel answer to just 20 words. Kamala Harris gave a 179 word meandering answer on Israel. That 60 minutes cut to 20 words according to the transcripts released yesterday.

[Katie]

Wow, that's some editing.

[Jack Armstrong]

179 word answer to 20 words. Now, as executive producer Hansen has been talking about as a guy who's produced lots of different kinds of radio shows and sports highlights and all kinds of different stuff. That's what we do all the time in the media business.

[Katie]

Yeah, you have to, you have to.

[Jack Armstrong]

For all kinds of reasons. Time keeping people's attention, jazzing it up, making it punchy. The, the, the issue really seems to be, to me, that, that in this particular case, the number one knock on the candidate was they couldn't answer a question without going into word salad mode. I mean, that was like one of the key questions with her. Right.

[Katie]

A campaign issue. But what question are we asking here? And I'll tell you the reason I asked that. I mean, CBS is wildly biased. Wildly. And I think most people know it. But this lawsuit is nuts. It'll be dismissed very, very quickly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, so you're going to the legal thing. I don't care about the legal thing. I think politically it's going to be damaging, absolutely damaging to the media. Slash 60 minutes and be sort of a win for Trump, I think. And Trump doesn't think he's going to win the lawsuit, I don't think.

[Katie]

No, no. I think he just wants people to talk about.

[Jack Armstrong]

Although getting back to the New York Times article, Right. And we're talking about it in a way that suggests that 60 Minutes did edit the answer to make her look better, which, you know, I'm sure he's very happy with. But farther down in the New York Times article about this, 60 Minutes argues that it did nothing wrong. It's common practice for news organizations to edit. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Getting into the legal part of it, I want to get this because it's really good. Mr. Troop's lawsuit has led to angst at CBS, where many staff members believe that any settlement would be a symbolic concession to the president and an acknowledgment of wrongdoing by 60 Minutes. Bill Owens, the executive producer of 60 Minutes, said Monday in a meeting with staff that he would not apologize to Trump as part of any settlement with the network. But it looks like that's probably what is going to happen. Cbs, CBS is going to pay something to get this over with and wants to include an apology. But the guy involved said, I'm not apologizing. And they and the staff that works there, we've heard this over and over again, right? New York Times, 60 Minutes, all these, all these different left leaning organizations. The staff gets all upset. We can't have, we can't give an inch on any of these things. The people at the top or the lawyers often have a different point of view of we need to settle this. It's only going to get more expensive. People settle these kind of things all the time.

[Katie]

Yeah. On the other hand, if they do, I'll be really disappointed. You can't settle it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'll be interested to see if they do or not. I was having this conversation with my kids the other day about why lawyers recommend settling things when you did nothing wrong. It's just a dollars and cents question. Often.

[Katie]

Yeah. If I were a smarter lawyer than their lawyers, I'd say you're going to be handling one of these suits every week and a half to, I don't know, four days if you settle this. Oh, you edited it, made me look bad or made me unhappy. That's. No, you can't settle this suit.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I wonder, I wonder where it's going or how it's going to turn out. But anyway, let's play the clips, the actual clips. So this is one version of the question and answer clip 71 there between Bill Whitaker and Kamala Harris. But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyahu is not listening.

[Kamala Harris]

Well, Bill, the work that we have done has resulted in a number of movements in that region by Israel that were very much prompted by or a result of many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen in the region.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm mostly reminded listening to that, what a dope she is. She was a dope. But here's the same question, different answer. But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyahu is not listening.

[Kamala Harris]

We are not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for the United States to be clear about where we stand on the need for this war to end.

[Jack Armstrong]

Boy, that's a tough one. I mean, not the legal part, I'm not interested in that part. But that's a tough one from a, like, even a news standpoint. I mean, because normally, yeah, you're interviewing whether it's a politician or a coach or whoever, you try to, you just try to get it down to the answer. You had a question and you want the answer and you want to give the answer to the people who are watching or listening. You want to be short and interesting and easily understood. But in the case of Kamala Harris, because she was such a meandering dope. God, the story is the long, meandering dopiness that is the story. What she, she doesn't say anything ever. I don't know from a, like, even a journalistic standpoint what I think how you should handle that. I mean, if you had, unlike all other parts, politicians editing her at all was significant to the interview.

[Katie]

Yeah, yeah, I get it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean, what was the total on the words there that I mentioned? This is from the New York Post's counting of it. She gave the total answer, which I don't think we. You can. The whole thing is out now. I started watching it yesterday. It's like an hour long. But the whole thing is out there. And I'll have to watch this later. They didn't air it in the 60 Minutes interview, the whole thing at all. But Kamala Harris gave a 179 word answer to that question. And then 60 Minutes cut it down to 20 words, which still sounds dumb. She still sounds like she has no idea what she's talking about.

[Katie]

Well, that first version was. I was like, oh, that's right. Yeah, boy, she's that dumb.

[Jack Armstrong]

But that's the, that's the 21. That's the 20 word version that they edited it down to. I want to hear the whole 179 words.

[Katie]

The hell does she say?

[Jack Armstrong]

Good Lord.

[Katie]

Keeping in mind she only lost because of misogyny and racism, according to the new head of the dnc.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I think, I think what's going to come out of this and like, looking at that New York Times subhead, people are going to hear, see, Trump sues 60 Minutes. Turns out 60 Minutes did edit it. I think that's what's going to be in the ether of the conversation about this. Yeah, if, if it becomes against the law to edit answers at all, I don't know how we would even move forward as a, as a species. Those of us who play clips for a living.

[Katie]

And if you're not familiar with this, politicians, especially if they're in an even semi hostile forum, will try to filibuster you. Yeah, you'll ask them, are you going to vote for the Jones Amendment? And five and a half minutes of rambling later, you'll find him finally be like, can we redirect, please? They do that intentionally. So you have to edit.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's a good point right there. It's often to not have to answer the question and bore you to death or knowing that you're gonna have to get to a break at some point.

[Katie]

I'm not a big fan of horror movies. I just, I don't dig them. But if I want to be horrified, I'll sit around and daydream for five minutes about what it would have been like if Kamala had won and we were going 100 miles per hour down the road of DEI and white guilt and men playing women's sports and squandering money and the ridiculous USAID programs. A hundred different examples. It's too terrible to contemplate.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, you know, I believe in the parallel universe thing. I want Elon to put me on a spaceship to go to the parallel universe where she won and see how it's playing out. Holy cow. No kidding, man. You talk about a different next four years.

[Katie]

Well, in foreign policy wise, what are our adversaries going to do with President Kamala in charge?

[Joe Getty]

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[Katie]

Joe, three years of working together. This is the low moment, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

So at the end of the last segment, you're, you're about to hear it. I, I, I, I struggled. Joe said it was off the air. He said during the commercials. That is the worst moment in 30 years of doing this show.

[Katie]

Yes, it is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Katie's already laughing.

[Katie]

She was laughing. Will not soon be cleared.

[Jack Armstrong]

I can't wait to hear it again. I'm not looking forward to hearing it again. I can explain myself, I think. Well, I can't really explain it, but I know what happened. Anyway, this is how it sounded. What you're about to hear happen like six minutes ago.

[Katie]

Spacing off and daydreaming is incredibly important, as is sleep.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hope you are well or all.

[Joe Getty]

No Armstrong and Getty.

[Katie]

Oh, beautiful, beautiful.

[Jack Armstrong]

Again, Michael.

[Katie]

Spacing off and daydreaming is incredibly important as his sleep.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hope you are well or all.

[Joe Getty]

No Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I was trying, I was in my mind what I was going to say. And usually as a person who speaks for a living, what I have in my mind can come out of my mouth quite quickly eventually, or an alternative version. And I've never felt physically this, I've never felt this before. My tongue, it felt like it was three times its normal size. Something happened with my jaw and my tongue. I hope it's not the beginning of a horrible disease or something that I'm about to find out.

[Katie]

That would be unfortunate. And I feel bad about my giggling.

[Jack Armstrong]

I just, all of a sudden my mouth would not work or.

[Katie]

Well, see, I thought it was because if we're up against a hard break, which means there's no flexibility, we have to take it at that very second. Michael will count us down the last 10 seconds. And I could see you looking down at your phone or notes or something like that as Michael was counting down and as he got down to 3, 2, 1, I could tell you weren't aware of it and you looked up mid sentence with 1 second left and I assume your brain just locked up.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or all. No, I don't think that was it.

[Katie]

All nar. Because I was.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't think that was it because I was read. Trying to read what? It was alternative. I was trying to read and it just. My tongue expanded. Words are hard. Exactly. Hope you are well or all. No. Wow.

[Katie]

Oh, yeah. That's what it is. Oh.

[Jack Armstrong]

I have been making my car payment or house payment as a broadcaster for 41 years and that is the worst moment I've ever.

[Katie]

It was a good run.

[Jack Armstrong]

That was my worst moment right there.

[Katie]

I just came across not long ago one of the most beautiful and touching things that I've seen in a very long time. And that is a farewell message from Mia Love. Do you recognize that name? She was the young black woman who was elected to Congress in Utah. She'd been a mayor and stuff like that. She was the first black woman Republican in the House of Representatives and really interesting person. She died recently of brain cancer. And she wrote what she said, not a good. Was not a goodbye message, but a thank you message. And it is absolutely beautiful. And again, I wish I had time for more, but I'll give you a little bit of it. Dear friends, fellow Americans in Utahns, I'm taking up my pen not to say goodbye, but to say thank you and express my living wish for you in the America I know. And then she describes the end of the battle with brain cancer and why she and her family have decided that now it's time to just be with each other as opposed to more treatments. Anybody who's gone through that terrible experience knows what she's talking about. As mayor, member of Congress, and media commentator, I've seen the worst of petty politics, divisive rhetoric and disappointing lapses of moral character by some. These same roles also provided me a front row seat and a backstage pass to be blessed and inspired by the courage, vision and hope of America's finest daughters, sons and citizens. Couching this column as a dying wish felt a little dramatic, even for a drama person like me. We are not certain how long the season of my battle will be, and I do want to share and reshare some things with the world that I passionately believe. I write all of this as my living wish and hopefully enduring wish for you. Let me tell you about the America I know. My parents immigrated to the United States with $10 in their pocket and a belief that the America they heard about really did exist as the land of opportunity. Through hard work and great sacrifice, they achieved success. So the America I came to know growing up was filled with all the excitement found in living the American dream. I was taught to love this country, warts and all. And I understand I had a role to play in our nation's future. I learned to passionately believe in the possibilities and promise of Americ. And she talks a lot about watching her mom and dad work our odd jobs to provide for the kids and the education that they got.

[Jack Armstrong]

God, I hate to turn this negative, but that's what I do. It makes me nuts that there are so many children of privilege on college campuses. I mean, you grew up an upper class lifestyle. Now you're at a expensive university and you're down and sad and on anxiety medicine and angry because you believe the country's so awful and you can't make it it right.

[Katie]

Right. That just to me, you know, idle hands are the devil's play. Things that just shows the. The corrosive power of lack of purpose. Anyway, and this part I love to. Watching my mother and father work odd jobs in order to provide for us and maintain their independence taught me valuable lessons and personal responsibility. When tough times came, they didn't look to Washington, they looked within. Because the America they knew was centered in self reliance. The America I know is founded in the freedom self reliance always brings. What makes America great is the idea that when government is limited and decisions are made closest to the people they impact. People are free. Free to work, free to live, free to choose, free to fail and free to achieve. The America I know provides everyone an equal opportunity to be as unequal as they choose to be. We will have a link to this entire [e-mail] I suggest you very strongly you read it because there's a lot more to it.

[Jack Armstrong]

But what's that saying of whether you think you can or you think you can't? You're right.

[Katie]

You're right.

[Jack Armstrong]

It reminds me of that with the. The philosophy of you either believe this is a country where you can work hard and make it or you don't. You believe that that's a lie that people tell you. I've heard, I've heard Bruce Springsteen say that they, they push this lie that you work hard and you'll make it. F you, Bruce.

[Katie]

Oh my God. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

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