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Yeah. Our Black Friday special is same price as every other day. So now enjoy the Armstrong and Yeti replay. Hey, Optimus, what are you doing there?
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Just chilling, ready to help.
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Hey, Optimus, you know where I can get a Coke?
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Sorry, I don't.
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Have real time info, but I can take you to the kitchen if you want to check for a Coke there.
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Oh, yeah, that'd be great. Yes, let's do that.
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And then it just stands there.
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Let's go. Awesome. Let's head to the kitchen.
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Okay. Okay, good. Go. I think it's.
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I think we need to be giving.
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A bit more room.
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Okay, so that's the voice obviously of Elon Musk right there, who said we need to give it more room there. They were standing too close. I guess you can take that down, Michael. They're standing next to Optimus as they were all going to go to the kitchen to get a Coke. And Optimus, who's just standing there looking at him eyeless. And Elon said, I think we need to back up a little bit. Anyway, my takeaway from that video was we ain't even close yet. We're not even close to robots taking over yet. Now it's moving pretty fast. Maybe it'll be exponentially better in a year. I'm sure it will be. But the fact that Elon has got a trillion dollar incentive package now from Tesla and he's focusing mostly on Optimus, the AI robot more than the electric cars. Mm. I don't know. It seems like we're a long way away. Where do I get a Coke? I don't know where to get. And it stops.
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I don't have real time information.
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Sort of glitch, has no idea. And then it just stands there. It's. I thought it would be further along than that, didn't you?
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Wait a minute. I just googled where do people keep Cokes? It suggested the refrigerator, which is often in a human kitchen. Let's go to the kitchen. All right, let's go. You go first.
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I'm not trying to come off as guy who mocks technology, thinking it'll never. Because I'm sure it will be a thing eventually, but it's not as close as I thought. Didn't you think that Optimus robot would be more impressive than that?
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Yeah, yeah. Certainly before you trotted it out to do what they just did.
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Right, right, right, right, right.
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You know, I'm reminded of Elon trotting out the cyber truck for the first time and saying, and the windows cannot be shattered. Boom. He shatters.
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So this article, we got a couple AI stories for you. This article in the Wall Street Journal today about China's push to catch up with and surpass the United States is flipping troubling. For instance, this paragraph, the escalating AI race is drawing comparisons with the Cold War and the great scientific and technological clashes that characterized it. It is likely to be at least as consequential. The AI race between us and China is going to be at least as consequential as the Cold War between us and the Soviet Union. If you're old enough to have lived through that. Holy crap. China realized that all the big AI was going to be the next big thing, maybe the next big only thing on planet Earth. And it was way behind OpenAI, Google, all the American companies that were doing so well and then decided, we got to do something. And they've done a whole of nation effort to try to catch up and poured a ton of money into it and relaxed all kinds of regulations, which is highly troubling and, well, even silenced concerns.
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You know, just say, quit talking about safety and what's best for humanity. We don't have time. I mentioned my favorite quote in the article is from JD Vance, and he argued this in February. The AI future is not going to be won by hand wringing about safety.
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Well, he's right. I understand what he's saying. What he's wanting to say is China and Russia Mostly China, because China's got the money to put into this. China's going to do whatever the hell they want. And if they beat us to the punch on this, it ain't going to make any difference that we tried to be ethical and safe about it. It ain't going to make any difference.
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And I'm certainly the wrong guy to ask this question, but I find myself wondering, can their AI essentially crush our AI if it gets to, you know, whatever critical stage first, it can mess with our efforts and our programs and databases and the rest of it to the point that it blows ours up.
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Yeah, that could be some sort of like, on purpose effort like that. But I take in a ton of AI information, reading and listening to podcasts with the smartest people in the world talking about this. The more likely concern is without any attempt whatsoever to ethically control, just gets loose on its own and gets into computers and travels around the world and just kind of does its own thing. And then, then the genie is out of the bottle, which is pretty much inevitable.
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How do we prevent that, though? I mean, even if we're first. Oh, we can't. Okay, Never mind. Can't be done. Looking forward to having your. Your organs harvested. I mean, because even if we beat them to the punch by five years, when they catch up five years later, unless our AI can trump their AI, they will unleash it. And the, the hell you were speaking of.
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I suppose my big first of all, that paragraph about the Cold War, I find just like, bone chilling. I don't, I don't feel like the population is taking this like the challenge that it is, the way the Cold War was. I mean, my dad grew up hiding underneath his desks in rural Iowa in case the Russians dropped the bomb. But it was on their radar that we were in a, you know, fight to the death with a foe that was close enough to our equal to have to worry about it. I don't feel like people feel that way about China and AI. The average person doesn't have any idea any of this is happening.
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No, no.
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Which is troubling, I think. My. I guess my.
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You were better off that way because we spend all of our time terrified of our, our AI overlords. That's no way to live. Instead, you'll be going about your business. One day you'll turn around, there's a robot behind you. You'll think, wow, that's weird. Then it'll suffer your head, I mean, just like that. And you won't have suffered the fear.
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Hard to imagine no ahead.
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But what are you gonna do?
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Yeah, well, I suppose there's not much you can do about it. I was going to say, as a, as a guy who cares about his money, I worry about the economy and what's going to happen and whether or not this is all a bubble and it's going to completely collapse. And it is chip companies trading money with AI companies back and forth and investing each other and it could bust. And it doesn't turn out to be what they said, but. Well, that. One of the other lead stories that I've got for today, the right here. Yann Lukun is Meta's chief AI scientist, the top guy working on AI for Zuckerberg, who has spent tens of billions of dollars. I think he spent a hundred billion dollars on this project. His lead scientist is leaving and starting his own company. All of these people, including the Chinese, can't all be wrong, can they? That it turns into a dot com bubble where it's like, oh, I guess AI is not going to be profitable or do anything. So never mind.
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Gosh, I wouldn't think so.
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You wouldn't think Elon and Zuckerberg and China and everybody else could be wrong about this? So that's what leads me to believe that this is going to be a thing unfolding in front of our eyes at some point and then looming behind.
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Us and severing our heads.
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So you say that all the time, which is funny, but do you, do you have a real world sense of bad things that I could do?
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Well, it goes back to the commonly spoken theme of AI decides the only thing impeding it is human beings, or the only thing impeding the planet being at peak health is human beings. I mean, those are the two classic why they would sever our heads.
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And then even if they don't do that, what if it wipes out 75% of jobs?
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Well, right, right, yeah. And then political turmoil and revolution in the streets, et cetera, et cetera, while you're fighting robots.
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Great.
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Oh yeah, no kidding. Wow. So, a couple more quick AI notes. I thought this was really interesting. The Wall Street Journal reporting that Anthropic, which is the company behind Claude, expects to break even for the first time in 2028. By contrast, OpenAI, the ChatGPT folks plan they're forecasting their oper losses that year 2028 will be about $74 billion. They will lose $74 billion in 2028, or roughly 3/4 of revenue thanks to ballooning spending on computing costs. And they don't think they'll. They're going to burn through roughly 14 times as much cash as Anthropic before turning a profit in 2030. But certainly don't take my word for it. Through the Wall Street Journal. Invest carefully.
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Yeah, and then you've got the story of Amazon that never made any money and was losing money like crazy. And I remember all the jokes about it never turned a profit and everything like that, and obviously came to dominate the landscape in so many different ways eventually.
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And then. I'm sorry, Michael, what's. What'd you say to us? Oh, prize picks. Yeah, in just a second. Coming up in one more AI note from a website I'd never heard of, sent to us by alert listener Hillbilly Saving Country Music dot com. The headline is AI Songs Top Billboard Chart. Why We Need Transparency Now. All right, so I just opened this up again. Thank you, Hillbilly, for sending this along. There's an alarmingly low sense of urgency. They write about a rapidly developing dilemma that threatens to absolutely eviscerate everything we know and love about music in a matter of months. We're talking about AI, of course, but it feels almost embarrassing and trite at this point to even bring it up in such a breathless context. In part because we all have an inherent sense of how catastrophic AI is going to be for the human creators and how inevitable its impacts ultimately are. You know, Hillbilly mentioned that the guy who wrote this is a terrific writer, and he is. Wow, that's some. Some good writing. Anyway, what's his name? I don't know. But they. There's the picture of AI generated artist breaking rust. It's a little too perfect. Country looking, bearded guy in a cowboy hat and.
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Right. Handsome. Rugged yet sensitive.
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Yes. How'd you know? You must have seen this picture. Do we expect Congress to address this existential crisis facing human creators? They're saying we should do something about it. Attempt to install some guardrails and guideposts and expend at least a modicum of effort to at least make sure the public is aware of what is AI and what is not.
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Yeah, there's some effort by lots of people that you have to declare something. An AI creation. Do you think that makes any difference? You dig in a song. Oh, it's AI well, never mind then. I don't know. I either like it or I don't like it. Do you think I'd like it more if it turns out it's a human? Maybe. Maybe. I find out it's some 34 year old former drug addict was in jail. You know, I'm thinking of a what's a guy jelly roll type of story or something like that that. That hooks you.
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Mm. Yeah. Because the, the, the sentiment in the song seems much more real. That's. You've asked the key question. It's a super interesting question. Will people still enjoy it? This guy's advocating any piece of music made by AI or even partially made by AI must be to close to such to the public, period. So like if you use AI to clean up the bass line, I don't know, because your bass player's drunk or something. I don't know. Because evidently this Breaking Rust song, Walk My Walk top the Billboard country digital song sales chart. An AI track was number one song in country.
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I'm gonna listen to that during the break.
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Please do.
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We can't play it for copywriting reasons, but I'm gonna listen to it during the break, see what I think. All right. God, we're headed into a weird world.
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Yeah. I don't know.
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And everybody's guessing, but the people with a lots of money, like the richest people on earth, are guessing that it's going to be a big deal and going to be profitable. I don't know if there are any super wealthy people are saying, nah, this is overhyped.
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I don't. I'll be in the woods if you need me.
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Yeah, well, good luck. The AI robot that currently can't find a Coke will be able to find you in the woods and chop off your head for whatever reason.
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Look, honey. Look at that squirrel. Zeros and ones, flashes in his eyes. It descends down about me. Yeah, right.
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The Armstrong and Getty Show. So I, for various reasons, my doctor hit me with a Prednisone prescription and it's totally screwed up my sleep. Last night I was awake for two solid hours, my mind just racing in the middle of the night last night.
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It amps you up, no doubt.
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Oh my gosh. Yeah.
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Did it make you ravenously hungry? That's what I always have with prednisone.
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No, actually, my stomach's kind of upset right now. But anyway, so two things occupied my two hours of high speed thinking. Number one, I wrote and rewrote and wrote, combed through and perfected the first class of a college class in basic economics that focuses on how laws and regulations and prices cause people to change their behavior. Logical economics. I was going to call it.
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So when you're trying to sleep, you couldn't sleep, so you came up with a curriculum for an A100 level college class in economics that I will never teach.
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That's correct.
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That's relaxing, yes.
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The second thing I did when that was perfected was I was working on the speech, you poor teachers. And I'm thinking mostly of Californians, but in blue states everywhere. And if your school district does this sort of stuff, you poor teachers who are writing us emails this week saying, yeah, we're in our mandatory DEI training right now, guys, this stuff is not dead. It is still here. And they're being humiliated and told that getting your work done on time is white supremacy. Being diligent is white supremacy. And all of that just utter garbage. And so I was like writing a speech for you that you could stand up and say, excuse me, I hate to interrupt this, but this is racist garbage and it's wasting all of our time and worse. And here's why. Exactly. And then you would explain to them briefly that DEI does not have anything to do with racial harmony or anything. It's a tool of capture. It's a tool of takeover. If you have three people up for the job of boss and you can say one of those guys is a racist, he will not get that authority. He will not get that money, he will not get the good stuff. And if you start calling everybody a racist who you don't want to have power and everybody's like afraid to say that doesn't seem like racism to me. Then you're in power. DEI needs to end wherever it exists everywhere in America today. It has nothing to do with race. It is a Marxist technique to capture institutions.
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At 75, both men and women fall off a cliff at 75. It's a population level. It's unmistakable what happens at the age of 75, that's what we're up against. That's what I'm thinking about in the practice is how do I create an escape velocity that gets somebody another 15 years there? Dr. Peter Attia. Attia, however you pronounce his name, was on 60 Minutes on Sunday night. He's, he's very well known for some of you because he's written some books that have sold millions and millions of copies about how to get a little more enjoyment years out of your life.
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Right? Not just prolonging life, but prolonging quality years.
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I immediately put my hand over my watch in my wallet when anybody ever starts talking about health stuff, because there's just a lot of, you know, very few people ever want to come out and just say, well, you got to eat less and exercise more would be the main way to lose weight, as opposed to, I've got a new way that nobody's ever thought of before.
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You eat only things that match this paint chip.
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It's called beige eating. Only eat things that are beige.
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The monochromatic diet.
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But this guy, I thought that was interesting. Of course, your, your mileage may vary. It happens a little earlier for some people, a little later, like my dad for some people. But in general, at 75, you just go off a cliff and he wants to extend that out a little further. Not your lifespan, but the years that you can actually do stuff and enjoy yourself. Right.
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Yeah, I, I'll hold my takeaway from that segment back. I don't want to steal anybody's Thunder.
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Here's Nora O' Donnell from 60 Minutes talking to the doctor.
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And so is your goal to minimize or essentially erase that marginal decade?
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The marginal decade's not going anywhere. We will all have a final decade of life. My goal is to make the marginal decade as enjoyable as possible. The way I explain it to my patients is that last 10 to 15 of your years, if you don't do.
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Anything about it, you will fall to.
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A level of about 50% of your total capacity, cognitively, physically.
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And when people hear that, you're like, I don't want to be that.
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That's right.
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That's not how I want to spend the last time, last decade of my life.
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A lot of people respond that way as though they're hearing this for the first time. Although if you ask them, haven't you seen people in this state, they'll say, well, yeah, I guess I have. Right.
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Likely their own relatives.
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Sure. Their own parents, even.
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Well, I'm fairly functional on my best day. So, you know, 50% of that.
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Oof. That's getting down there.
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Yeah.
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Yikes. That is a funny aspect of human beings that even though we, most of us experience it with family members or whatever, we feel like it's not going.
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To happen to us or something. Yes. Yeah. I don't have that old guy attitude. I'm not going to be somewhat stooped over and complain about arthritis or we're.
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And this is a slightly different topic, but not completely. I was talking to a guy last night who's a friend of mine, and he's dealing with his mom's final years and how they're going to deal with it. And just that stat that I always think about where like 98 of people say they want to die at home. 98% of people don't die at home.
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Right.
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And, yeah.
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For a variety of reasons.
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But anyway, let's hear a little more of this before we discuss. Go on. I think this is the neglected part of medical testing is how fit are you? How strong are you? All right.
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How well do you move?
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And up overhead?
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And in many ways.
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Ways these tests are even more predictive of how long you're going to live than what I might get out of your blood work.
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How do we know that?
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The data are pretty clear. When you look at things like cardiorespiratory fitness, when you look at muscle mass, when you look at strength, they have a much higher association than things like even cholesterol and blood pressure.
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You think Anyone, whether they're 45 or 65, should be training like athletes, not for the Olympics, but essentially for advanced age.
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Absolutely.
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Life is a sport. What do you think of that idea?
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I didn't hear anything that he said that contradicted things that I've learned through the years about how to age well, having to do with strength and flexibility and various measures. The guy just struck me as a really high end, extremely thorough personal trainer with a medical background. I hear a lot of faux medical crap, and that seemed to be just. I mean, essentially, he's going to turn you into an Olympic athlete. Some of the exercise regimens and tests they were going to do and all. How could they not help you live longer? It looked like an enormous amount of work.
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Yeah. One of the reviews of one of his books. His work has exploded in popularity amid the longevity boom, but he stresses evidence over hype urging people to train seriously for vibrant old age rather than chasing quick fixes, which was what I was talking about earlier. The crawl like a dog exercise or whatever the hot new thing is.
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Yeah. And I know a couple of people who fly to like South American capitals to get various infusions.
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You know people who do that? Yes. Infusions of what?
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One guy in particular, I can't remember exactly how young the blood do they go?
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Blood of a 13 year old, blood of a 10 year bone serum.
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I don't know. The plasma of the jaguar. I don't know exactly.
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Do you know people who fly to other countries? Yes, to get infusions.
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The guy is super into the anti aging thing. Like you know less about Dr. Attia, who again struck me as a lot more legit than 90% of what I hear about this stuff. But yeah, he's super into it. He believes that he's a very smart guy. He's been very successful. Although, you know, one sort of success doesn't necessarily translate to good judgment in another way. But he's a lovely guy.
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But if you got a lot of money, what are you going to spend your money on that's better than trying to have more enjoyable years of your life? And you know, if there's a 5% chance it works, if you got a lot of money, it makes more sense to do that than. Couch we were talking about earlier. Exactly.
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It makes sense to me completely that we are designed to continue to work our minds and bodies and then as soon as we stop, they just decide, well, I guess, yes, we're done.
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Right. Right. I think it just. It helps to remind yourself over and over again, you are an animal. You are a biological being. No different than beavers. Beavers don't have long happy retirements.
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Look at my teeth.
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Were they where they said? Are those dentures? Beaver dentures. They look totally natural. They don't look natural.
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I brought down a sapling yesterday. Good man.
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You got to stay in shape. No, but the invention of a. I have reproduced. I have raised my young. I have functioned as the village elder and now I'm just. I play golf and I watch movies. That doesn't exist in the animal world. We invented that.
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Right.
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So you got to think about all Right. What. What is every other be doing while it's alive? It stays active. You've got to stay active. I believe that. Absolutely.
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I don't want to be annoying works out guy. So I probably shouldn't say this very often but I go to the gym every single day and I feel better. I feel better now than I felt when I was 40. I'm 20 years older than that.
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I'm way more.
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In every way. Feel better from exercising regularly. I hope I can keep it up. I probably can't. Like I said earlier, I'm doing it only out of vanity.
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Yeah, but it can't hurt.
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No, it can't hurt. I'm just worried about when, you know, like I said, I finally get a. A mate. I'll just. I'll become a. You know, a Jim Schmim. Huh. Let's watch tv.
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That's all the way over on the other side of the living room.
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I'm gonna immediately go from going to the gym every day to watching tv, eating bowls of pudding. That's like. The transition will be very seamless.
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Riding around the grocery store on a Rascal, right?
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Exactly. Didn't I used to see you at the gym?
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Maybe I did.
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All my way.
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Wow.
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No.
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I'm predicting my future there.
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Your new bow is gonna sue you for fraud.
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Anyway. I thought that was. I thought that was a damn interesting story. Just the idea of looking at extending the enjoyable years. The whole. Your body and mind drops off 50% after 75.
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Wow. And in a similar vein, the one medical story that's caught my ear lately and really made an impression is that study after study is coming back saying staying physically active is good for your brain. Prevents Alzheimer's and that sort of thing. It's just. It's undeniable.
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Jerry Seinfeld's big on that. He says that's why he lifts weights. Is because all the studies that show how. What it does for your brain. So that's good too. Because my brain ain't so hot.
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I'm so damn lazy. I gotta get it.
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We mentioned one stupid fitness craze. I got a real fitness craze that is just came across yesterday. It's been around for a while, but I wanted to talk about it more Hick. I think it's hick. Is it hick? I'll find it.
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Do tell.
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It's a, it's an acronym. We'll get to that coming up next segment.
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Okay, so a couple of examples of DEI absolute madness and just proof of what Jack and I and James, Lindsay and others have been saying for for the longest time. The DEI thing, it's a tool of takeover. It has nothing to do with what it claims it is. Here are a couple examples. This is just great stuff from the editors of the National Review. They're talking about how academics try to have it both ways. They claim to support diversity and robust debate on campus. Right. But then they exclude any views that challenge the left wing orthodoxy. And now an influential academic population publication is abandoning all pretense. The American association of University Professors, who in their very bylaws state that they aim to champion academic freedom, advance shared governance and organize all faculty to promote education for the common good. Well, their magazine just published an article, seven Theses against viewpoint Diversity by this lady professor at Johns Hopkins.
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Wow. Just flat out coming out against viewpoint diversity.
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Wow. And she's the president of her university's AAUP chapter, the American association of University Professors. She is. And at Johns Hopkins, which is a prominent university, so she's a super heavyweight among professors.
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I like Johns. I feel like Hopkins is a bit.
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Much anyway, so there's been plenty of criticism of her article. But in an attempt to defend the article, the AAUP responded with the following quote. Fascism generally doesn't do great under peer review, but perhaps it's the intellectual values of academia, which emphasizes critical inquiry and challenges traditional norms that may be inherently less appealing to those with a more conservative worldview. In other words, academia skews way left because fascism doesn't survive intellectual scrutiny. So they're saying anyone who isn't sufficiently progressive and woke is a Nazi who needs to be ejected from higher education, as the National Review guys say. Could there be a more Stark confirmation of the public's perception of universities as ideological hubs unaware of their own internal, you know, one sidedness. They use a lot of fancy words.
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But.
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It is absolutely stunning coming out and saying no, we don't have intellectual diversity cuz anybody who doesn't agree with us is a fascist.
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Yeah, I butted up against this fairly recently in a way I don't want to get into, but the crowd that actually equates the term conservative with something incredibly evil like it's not a political philosophy that's always existed and always will exist and needs to exist, that's in tension with, you know, the other side, whatever you want to call it, it's just, it's flat out evil and should be given no air whatsoever. Which is nuts.
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Yeah, it is. It is divorced from all reality, all wisdom.
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I would never say experience. Everything should be to the right forever and never looked at in any other way. I think that'd be. That makes you a weird sort of person.
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Yeah, it's an aspect of radical leftism and, and revolutionary movements in general. They are utterly intolerant dissent. I mean that's kind of common. How do you ever come to the conclusion?
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How do you ever can come to the conclusion though? Maybe it's just the way I'm built that you are right about everything.
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Always right.
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Always. How do you get that way?
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I don't know. I don't know. And the idea that, I mean the idea that there is a Marxist professor who believes everything to the right of Marxism is fascism. The fact that there's a professor who believes that, I think, all right, you know, that's fine, takes all kinds. But the idea that there's nothing but that on American universities or those who are not that are terrified to even speak, that, that's, I mean folks, that's a serious, serious problem. Yeah, and there's that now they're just saying it openly. The lead organization for professors saying no, we don't want diversity of opinion because you're fascists. Anyway, on a much, much lighter note, Real Clear Politics with an article out lately about how Biden's Secret Service was so steeped in diversity, equity and inclusion DEI practices that it could hardly function. Boy, did we see any examples of that during Biden's reign. I don't know. Teenage or 20 year old jackass ne' er do wells getting clear shots at the President for instance. Anyway, Real Clear Politics noted the former Secret Service director Kimberly Cheadle had pushed an initiative under Biden, quote, to make the federal government a DEI model for the nation. So that lady who's going to lead the Secret Service wanted the whole federal government to be a model of dei, which means more radical progressives. It's not diversity, it's more progressives. Anyway, she resigned from her post in July 24 after being unable or unwilling to answer questions from lawmakers on how the agency failed to prevent the assassination attorney attempt against Trump as he spoke in Butler, Pennsylvania. That we all remember. And keeping in mind Real Clear politics is a pretty down the middle, ish, typical, slightly left journalism outfit. They offered further insight into the DEI push at the agency during Biden's years, highlighting a reported overweight female agent who is also a plus sized model. And I read from RealClearPolitics. Under Cheadle's leadership, DEI had become so normalized that an overweight female agent who never, never passed her physical fitness tests was not only retained on the staff, she was allowed to moonlight as a model. The agent who was featured in a magazine profile, traded on her job in federal law enforcement and hinted at her Secret Service position in a photo shoot labeled undercover but never underdressed.
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Oh God.
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The female agent who bills herself as a nationally published curve model plus size, fashion and fitness influencer and body positivity advocate. I feel like.
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I feel like even if she could do the physical fitness stuff, that's not the sort of person you want as a Secret Service agent who's a model influencer type. That just seems like a weird personality type to be in the Secret Service.
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What other side hustles are allowed for Secret Service agents?
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Yeah, could you be a strip club DJ or is there any limit to the sort of.
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Right. Could you write like angry editorials for, I don't know, Breitbart or something like that? I don't know. I don't know. Anyway, here's a little more. The gal, the big gal who never passed her test at all, was assigned to protect Kamala Harris's stepdaughter Ella Emma off in New York. After several failed attempts to pass a physical fitness test, the agent was placed in the Special Services division, which handles support functions for the agency, including the maintenance of the armored vehicle fleet and the screening of mail and packages for the White House complex, according to four sources in the Secret Service community.
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You know, there'd be so many people that want those jobs in the Secret Service. There'd be so many candidates. And you go ahead and let somebody who can't pass the physical fitness test be on the team.
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I mean, that's so weak. Right, Next.
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Right, you got two shots. Next. Sorry, you can't do all the push ups or sit ups or whatever you had to do.
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Go back to being a nationally published curve model and influencer and body positivity activist and then they go into several other scandals during the Biden years. But you get the idea. DEI is insidious. It's a tool of Marxist takeover and it devalues every person of color or minority or woman or whatever who gets a gig because they're suspected of being a DEI hire.
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It's awful.
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Guaranteed Human.
Date: November 26, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
This “best of” replay episode features Armstrong & Getty’s signature blend of wide-ranging, unscripted discussions. The hour centers on technology and culture, with in-depth conversations about the current state and perils of artificial intelligence (AI), questions around DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) within institutions, aging and longevity breakthroughs, and the peculiarities of modern fitness trends. The hosts blend humor, skepticism, and a sense of impending doom, with tangents into economics and current events, all delivered in their trademark conversational, irreverent style.
Segment: ~04:10–11:00
Jack and Joe riff on a viral clip of Elon Musk interacting with the Optimus robot, highlighting how underwhelming actual robot capabilities are versus public hype.
Discussion moves to the global AI arms race, especially the escalating competition between the US and China.
The hosts consider whether China, by moving faster and with fewer ethical constraints, could surpass the US.
They fret about public awareness and the ethical risks of “unleashed” AI.
Segment: ~11:00–13:48
Jack expresses concerns about economic bubbles tied to AI investment.
They note that leading figures—Elon Musk, Zuckerberg—as well as major nations, can’t all be wrong about AI’s staying power.
Comparative forecasts: OpenAI expects major operating losses through 2028, while Anthropic aims to break even, highlighting high risks, high potential.
Segment: ~13:48–16:45
Discussion of the first AI-generated country song, “Walk My Walk” by “Breaking Rust,” hitting #1 on the digital charts according to a Save Country Music article.
Ethical quandaries: Should AI-generated music be labeled? Would people care? Does knowing a human’s story make songs more meaningful?
Joe: “This guy’s advocating any piece of music made by AI or even partially made by AI must be disclosed as such to the public. Period.” (15:45)
Segment: ~24:10–33:30
Highlighting Dr. Peter Attia’s appearance on 60 Minutes, whose research shows physical (and cognitive) capacity falls off dramatically after age 75.
Discussion of metrics for health and longevity: Muscle mass, cardio-respiratory fitness, and strength are better predictors than blood panels.
The importance of staying physically and mentally active, skepticism of quick fixes and longevity snake oil.
Animal analogies and the link between purposeful activity and prolonged vigor.
Honest, relatable fitness confessions:
Segment: ~37:52–45:57
Coverage of a National Review editorial about an academic leader who opposes viewpoint diversity, equating dissent from leftist orthodoxy as “fascism.”
Jack notes current leftist circles conflate conservatism with evil, not simply different political philosophy:
RealClearPolitics report on DEI at the Secret Service, including a plus-size model kept on the payroll despite failing fitness standards.
The show’s banter is irreverent, candid, and accessible, often mixing gallows humor with earnest skepticism:
This highly engaging “best of” Armstrong & Getty episode takes listeners through the anxieties and absurdities of the coming AI age, the ethics and economics around new technology, the looming reality of aging, and the pitfalls of institutional DEI. Their signature warmth, blunt skepticism, and humor bring depth and personality to current events—and plenty of memorable “did-they-really-say-that?” moments.
For more, visit armstrongandgetty.com.