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Jack Armstrong
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now, here's Armstrong and Getty.
Joe Getty
Welcome to a replay of the Armstrong and Getty Show.
Jack Armstrong
We are on vacation.
Joe Getty
Boy, do we have some good stuff for you.
Jack Armstrong
So speaking of misbehavior, Riley Gaines has been an absolutely courageous spokesperson for women's sports, women's private places, and women's rights in general. And on college campuses where undergrads are majority women, the reception she's gotten has been absolutely horrific.
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I have been in several environments, especially on these hotbeds, these college campuses where I have been spit on. Of course, I mean the most profane, obscene, heinous things yelled at me, drinks poured on me, glass bottles thrown at me. There was an incident in San Francisco where I was literally held hostage for five hours, where protesters, the mob, the angry, violent mob on the demanded that I had to pay them money if I wanted to make it back home to my family safely. All while university officials, the dean of students, the vice president of student affairs at the university, they applauded the students for their brave behavior, saying that people like me with our dissenting viewpoints, we were the ones who were basically asking for this.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, the whole transgender cult thing. How else to describe a view so adamant and fevered that you would behave like that when a young woman was trying to protect women's sports and women's private areas like locker rooms and bathrooms and stuff? I mean, you are nuts.
Joe Getty
You don't mean her private area like her Yahoo. Good lord, you mean the space she's in?
Jack Armstrong
You're an idiot, and I will not dignify that. Speaking of people standing up for women's rights, this is such an interesting little episode in the history of that Tish Hyman is the name of the black lady you may have seen, heard, who was aghast when she was bare naked at the Gold's Gym in Los Angeles and turned and there was a full grown man looking at her. And she told aforementioned fella to get the hell out. He said, I'm a. He said, I'm a woman. I get to be in here. And started screaming at her that she was a bigot and misgendering him and the rest of it. We played you that well. Tish, to her credit, traveled north to the San Francisco Bay area and attended a town hall meeting being held by none other than the world's leading pervert, Scott Weiner, who hopes to hold Nancy Pelosi's congressional seat soon. And she, Tish, was asking Scott about protecting women. And it took some really interesting turns. We'll start with 70.
Tish Hyman
Michael as a lesbian woman who was attacked in a woman's locker room at Gold's Gym this week by a self identifying trans woman with a documented history of domestic violence. I'm deeply concerned about women's safety in female only spaces. What would you say to women who are seeking assurance that their safety will be protected from men who by California law can self ID as women and women only space to serve? Please tell me.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, so we want, I mean, everyone be safe. And we also know that, you know, we have trans, trans people, both men and women, who are men and women. And so, you know, we. So if you're a trans women or women, wow. What a floundering, fumbling, bumbling effort to translate the academia talk Scott Wieners memorized into like real world language. You just couldn't do it.
Jacob Goldstein
No.
Joe Getty
Well, often when you're saying stuff you don't actually believe, it's difficult to form your sentences and thoughts.
Jack Armstrong
I think he does believe that though. I mean, he's in favor of everything from man, boy, love to, you know, please. He says birthing persons. He's said birthing persons 10 years ago. He's an activist in this. But anyway, it keeps going and it keeps getting weirder and we want to.
Tish Hyman
Know, are you going to protect women? Not trans women, women, women. Trans women are doing things. Listen, we need to protect women's safety. I was assaulted. No, they are not. They are men. I was assaulted by women. He broke his wife's jaw so bad she needed reconstructive surgery. I'm a lesbian, I'm not transphobic and I'm black. So if there's another black woman in here who wants to tell me how they feel, please join in. But all of you are not.
Jack Armstrong
And I don't know who you are.
Tish Hyman
What you are, but I'm a lesbian and I'm telling you right now, men are harassing Women in the locker room.
Jack Armstrong
Let's let him answer the question.
Joe Getty
That's where it turns super interesting in terms of the left eating the own. Because then she gets into the. Wait a second. Nobody can criticize me. I'm black, I'm a woman, and I'm gay. Those three things leave me in a situation where you can't possibly disagree with me and then comes along trans. And apparently trans trumps all of those other things.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, sorry, black lesbian ladies, I wish we could help you here, but you're getting. Back of line, please. Yeah, yeah. And I loved. And listen, I'm not on her side of the intersectional totem pole battle thing, but I love the dynamic of white men, trans cultists saying trans women are women. Trans women are women. Trans women are women. Right.
Joe Getty
So you got. You have adult white males who all of a sudden end up in the. In the right. Using my finger quotes.
Jack Armstrong
Right position.
Joe Getty
Correct position.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
For the woke left over a black female gay person. Because we've crossed into the trans conversation.
Jack Armstrong
Right, Sorry, sorry.
Joe Getty
It's complicated. You need a flowchart.
Jack Armstrong
Right. And then she of course knows those are the cards to play on the left, so she tries to play them because they're not.
Joe Getty
Always worked for her her whole life, I'm sure.
Jack Armstrong
Right. Then a full grown dude shows up in the locker room. She yells out of panic and shock when he's looking at her bare ass naked. And. And then she becomes the bad person that is kicked out of Gold's gym. And now she feels. Oh, shoot, this whole hierarchy of victims thing, sometimes it gets a little weird.
Joe Getty
Yeah, I don't, I don't. I'm on her side in this conversation and I don't know her. Maybe she hasn't been playing this card her whole life. Although she pulled it there pretty quickly. But there are plenty of people who do play that card. And it works whether you know, the bus didn't pick you up or you got a bad grade in school or they want you to pay your rent on time or whatever the hell it is. It's always worked until you run into some white guys who are on the other side of trans.
Jack Armstrong
Right, right.
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Jack Armstrong
And it works in the other way too. That you can discount, dismiss, insult anyone by pointing out that they happen to be a white person. I had that card first played on me like 20 years ago. I was like, wait, what? But yeah, it's popular. Anyway, the meeting already Jazzy rolled on. I appreciate your point of view. I'm so sorry that you were multiple times. I appreciate you talking about it. I. I think we need to protect.
Joe Getty
The safety of all women.
Jack Armstrong
And. And that obviously that's incredibly important. And I also know that trans women are also brutalized in this country. So women and.
Joe Getty
And.
Jack Armstrong
And cisgender women are brutalized in this country.
Joe Getty
And.
Jack Armstrong
And we have to protect the safety.
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Of all of them.
Tish Hyman
We have to protect these women. We cannot be raped in bathrooms by men that want to say they're women. They're not women. They're not women.
Jack Armstrong
I'm leaving.
Tish Hyman
It's okay. But I' I am leaving. Because you know what? You guys are not protecting women. You're doing a lot. The bills that you're passing for the law. I read a lot of them. They're great. But this things with the trans. It's not right.
Jack Armstrong
Thank you very much.
Tish Hyman
You're welcome.
Jack Armstrong
So the key phrase there is women and CIS women need protection. So. Sorry. Born with ovaries. Etc, people. You're in second place. Women, real women and CIS women need to be protected. In Scott Wieners world.
Joe Getty
Yeah. The only woman term that doesn't have a qualifier attached is dude.
Jack Armstrong
To say they're a woman. Exactly. Katie, you're smoldering. I'm at a loss for words. You know, I know. And as a woman who is pregnant and my body is doing all sorts of things, this is even more infuriating because they have. Oh, I can totally relate. Totally relate. Because I identify as a woman. Yeah. Yeah. You ought to cave my effing Ethan for saying that.
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Jack Armstrong
Glad you're too far away. God.
Joe Getty
She just needed one more thing. Was your uncle a Cherokee?
Jack Armstrong
Do you have anything? What do you got? Let's think. Let's brainstorm here. They're both all for your limbs work. Okay. No. Let me think. Let me think. Your eyesight okay? No. All right. She had one more shot as she walked out the door.
Tish Hyman
You heard me, sister.
Jack Armstrong
All right.
Tish Hyman
Don't let them use our blackness and our civil rights as a reason to pass weird laws for children to transform.
Jack Armstrong
It's wrong.
Tish Hyman
My sister. Sisters in jail. She can't get free tampons herself, but she can get free transformation medication. Big Pharma's best.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Scott. Well, things are going so smoothly. That was a pretty good one. Would she say her sister's in prison? Whoever's in prison. Right. Can't get tampons. But you could get free transition surgery or medication. Medication.
Jack Armstrong
Right. Exactly. Yeah.
Joe Getty
Well.
Jack Armstrong
And Jeffrey made a pretty good point that don't let our blackness. Don't let Them use our blackness to pass weird laws. Because the far, far radical left and the neo Marxists, they use the verbiage and the rationale of the civil rights movement to make it seem like a dude who says, now I'm a girl is the same as, you know, Emmett Till or somebody who just wanted to vote in the south or attend a public university. It's obscene.
Joe Getty
We left out that this Scott Wiener person, because you don't know him all around the country like we do in the Bay. He's a Bay Area legend in government and doing all kinds of crazy stuff in the city and then getting into state government, all that sort of stuff. He wants to take Nancy Pelosi's seat. He's going to run for Nancy Pelosi seat. He could be the face of progressivism in the House of Representatives. I almost hope he wins. It's going to be so crazy. But I don't actually want his point.
Jack Armstrong
Of view to be spread. Yeah, I mean, he's. He's pro everything that's perverse, including, you know, man, boy love and that sort of thing, even if he kind of hints at it. But, yeah, I don't.
Jacob Goldstein
I'm.
Jack Armstrong
I'm trying to decide right now if it'd be better or worse to have him in Congress. I would like the. I don't know. People are so easily talked off of their beliefs in ways that shocked me, like during COVID And you got to.
Joe Getty
Be careful with this whole, you know, mom, dummy wins. That'll be good for us. Scott Weider wins. Be good for us. Pretty soon, there's going to be a lot of people in positions of power.
Jack Armstrong
With horrifying ideas and a lot of the sheeple andor young people who are easily sold on a lot of this garbage. I just feel bad that lady lost the intersectional contest. Yeah, she walked in there feeling great.
Joe Getty
Black woman. Who's going to say something to a gay black woman? I am bulletproof.
Jack Armstrong
Sorry, I'm trans.
Joe Getty
Oh, no.
Jack Armstrong
The superpower.
Joe Getty
My kryptonite.
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Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
Will mention this country song that's on the top of some chart, and it's AI and so we both took a listen to it. We can't play it because it Be a violation of something. But, but so before I tell you what I thought of this AI song that's at the top of the charts. Is it all AI? Is that what you're saying? It's entirely AI song?
Jack Armstrong
I believe so, yeah.
Joe Getty
So the dude on the COVID is a made up picture. The voice is AI, the instruments, the writing, all of it is a. Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know if the. There's probably somebody who wrote the lyrics, just. But maybe not. I don't know.
Joe Getty
Having listened to it, that is highly troubling.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, it. It sickened me. That is way too good.
Joe Getty
That is. Why, why would anybody try at this point? Well, why would anybody try to become famous and make money at it if you want to make music?
Jack Armstrong
I do it every day. I.
Joe Getty
At home, I play the piano in my bedroom, in my underwear. I do that all the time.
Jack Armstrong
But left that last part out.
Joe Getty
AI isn't going to replace that. But any, any I'm gonna make it onto the charts. I don't know if there's any point in that any anymore.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. I'm already very, very cynical about pop music. And it occurred to me that a lot of us of a certain age, we had the unbelievable experience that we took for granted that pop music, which was entirely a commodity. I mean, anybody who was actually a creative artist was exploited and thrown away by the money guys. It was just again a corporate commodity. And then there was a brief and wonderful period of, I don't know, 10 to 25 years. The art was dominated by actual creative artists. At least to a significant extent. It still was corporate, but there was a hell of a lot of creativity. And now, and I'm not saying there's no creativity left, but pop music is so corporate. There's so much money to be made. The formulaic AI, they might as well be AI. Song factories are so efficient. The underwear models lip syncing to the music are so good looking in the rest of it. It. It's easy to be very, very cynical about it. Having said that, the lyrics of this song in particular are a person who has had some very painful times in their life pouring out their soul. And the fact that that is cranked out by a computer because they know you like that sort of thing, makes me want to vomit.
Joe Getty
That's a good point. The fact that a chat bot picks up. Oh, okay. People, people have angst and pain and that thing. I'll write about that. Yeah. When it comes from somebody who's had that same feeling and we have that, we have that in Common as a human being. Oh, you felt that? I'm feeling that right now. Thanks for writing about it. When it turns out it's a computer completely, you know. Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
One of my, One of my favorite songs by one of my favorite bands, the, the, the writer and singer happens to be a gal, is talking about, you know, being, you know, self destructive in love and drinking way too much. And the line is, maybe I'll find my maker on the bedroom floor. Which is a hell of a line. Maybe I'll meet my maker. I think it is anyway, to hear that somebody just cranked that out because the computer algorithm said that would, that would be compelling. I don't know. Just, I. Oh, my skin is crawling, my guts are churning. Maybe I ate something bad for dinner last night, but. Yeah, that's. That's awful. It's not good, it's not funny, it's not amusing.
Joe Getty
So Google hired some AI guru to come over. They spent $2.7 billion to buy character AI and then this guy.
Jacob Goldstein
Had a.
Joe Getty
Whole bunch of posts about how he doesn't believe the whole trans thing is real. And so Google tried to shut him down, having just spent $3 billion on his company. And that became it. So they got a, they got a, A woke problem within the Google AI stuff. So that'll be something. China is not worried about that I guarantee you. China's attempt to be the dominant AI force on earth is not worried about the politics of the individual employees.
Jack Armstrong
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Jack Armstrong
Jack off Armstrong and Joe Getty the Armstrong and Getty show.
Joe Getty
On the floor we are occupying here at the radio station. The stall where people do their you know, your main business. There's been no soap in there for like a month.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, it's longer than that to wash.
Joe Getty
Your hands and that Ain't cool.
Jack Armstrong
Cool.
Joe Getty
So Hanson and I were just discussing it. Maybe we should bring bars of soap and set them on the counter kind of as a hint, like we've started bringing our own bar from home for some reason he suggested Lava. Do you remember Lava soap? It was gray and it had the grit in it to like.
Jack Armstrong
Oh yeah.
Joe Getty
Do they still make that? I think bars of Lava soap would be perfect.
Jack Armstrong
One of my friends dad was an actual auto mechanic and he did a lot of work in his own garage. I think that's where I ran into Lava soap.
Joe Getty
It was good for that sort of thing. I don't know. So good for like a 10 year old to scrub their body in the shower.
Jack Armstrong
Well, a lot of bleeding from the hands. Yeah, exfoliating.
Joe Getty
Exfoliating, exactly.
Jack Armstrong
So a lot of great stuff to squeeze in this hour. But first, from the information mind of Joe Getty. That brought you. I do occasionally refer to myself in the third person. That brought you a look in the china cabinet. And what was one of the other ones, Michael? I can't remember.
Joe Getty
I can't remember if there was another one.
Jack Armstrong
There have been other ones. Well, it's time for the Euro bureau. Ah, there you go. Yeah, we're still working on the introduction for the Euro Bureau and that was low rent. Are you kidding? That was free sign on the side of the road. I was limited on supplies.
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Jack Armstrong
Yes. And time. So a couple of really interesting stories from Europe. And I tell you what, and a lot of you agree with this, I feel like watching my beloved republic and our various challenges and increasing socialism and debt and the rest of it. It's a slow motion car crash. I mean, the end of this is so incredibly predictable. We become France. It's the francification of the United States.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, damn it. That reminds me. I'm so pleased with this, I can't stand it. The new T shirt at the Armstrong and Getty superstore is simply on a lovely dark blue background. Although you could probably get it in all sorts of colors. Ruin the entire country. Newsom 2028.
Joe Getty
I like it.
Jack Armstrong
Looks great. Tell unicornians and those who sympathize with calicoans ruin the entire country. Newsom 2028. Anyway, so we all heard about the breaking at the Louvre, right? We're gonna start in France in the Euro Bureau. We all heard about that, right? In the crown jewels and all sorts of stuff. Much less reported here on the other side of the Atlantic is the fact that that was one of nine major robberies of museums. Museums over the past year in France.
Joe Getty
Didn't know that nine.
Jack Armstrong
Six French museums have been hit since the beginning of September alone, One of them twice. And they name a bunch of museums I've never heard of, but are important, I guess, including the stately Museum of Natural History. Few of the stolen works, including precious porcelain and gold crosses and statues, have been recovered. As the robberies pile up, French officials are waking up to an unsettling reality. France is awash in cultural treasures, but has minimal resources to protect them. Thieves?
Joe Getty
Well, I was gonna say after the fourth or fifth museums hit, I would have thought somebody said, hey, is the Louvre protected? I mean, that's like our most famous museum.
Jack Armstrong
Successive governments have collapsed over efforts to rein in the country's budget deficit, leaving the state too cash strapped to invest in meaningful security upgrades for the more than 1200 sites classified by the government as museums. And McCrone's administration is scrambling to take a census of the country's most valuable artwork to know where to put their few pennies. But you've got a rising criminal class and absolutely no budget, no will to protect the country. It's just sad. Then you have this from the Wall Street Journal. Britain is preparing tens of billions of dollars. Well, pounds, but in new taxes again. The labor government is readying its second major tax increase in two years as it tries to avoid spooking markets. Markets, specifically bond markets, because it's taking on so much debt and it's killing the economy. And this is a good description. The UK has long been torn between two mutually exclusive desires. Voters want European levels of welfare with American levels of taxation. Of course, we're overspending our taxation too. But by accident design, the debate is slowly being resolved in the direction of higher taxes, as Britain's labor government, which can't leave office soon enough, prepares its second major tax increase in as many years. The UK is confronting an issue facing growing numbers of rich nations. How to pay for rising government spending without taking on ever more debt and spooking financial markets. So they've got this giant tax increase coming to narrow the budget deficit, which is at about 6% of their GDP. Biggest rounds of tax increases since the mid 70s. The increases will likely further constrain Britain's anemic economic growth. A lot of that had to do.
Joe Getty
With their net zero policies around climate change, which were crazy.
Jack Armstrong
Absolutely true. Yeah, Those two things are just crushing the economy. So the latest increase will raise the UK's tax rate to about 38% of annual economic output. Highest level ever, compares with about 30% in the 90s and low 30s and 2010s. That puts the UK comfortably ahead of the US which is in the mid-20s, although spending ourselves into oblivion, but still short of Germany and France. The pitfalls of such an approach are evident in Germany, which taxes wages more than any other rich country except Belgium, taking almost 50% of employees gross wages on average. While that approach has helped Germany balance budgets in the past, it has eaten into Germans purchasing power, depressing consumption. And Germany, that at the end of the Cold War, slashed spending on defense and poured the difference into the welfare state, now needs desperately to spend more on the military and shore up crumbling infrastructure, from potholed roads to a decrepit rail system. But taxes are already very high and the growth is too weak to fund new taxes. Slow motion car wreck.
Joe Getty
Yeah. I took in a podcast about Britain's financial situation several weeks ago, and it was striking. The whole time I was listening to it, I kept thinking, why isn't this a bigger story? Why don't more people know this in the United States, that Britain has just ruined their economy and. And then there's no easy way out. And they are like our future. We can look at them and we're going to be able to see what it's going to be like for us. I know.
Jack Armstrong
The world's most predictable disaster. It's so frustrating. And you didn't tune in to be frustrated.
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Jack Armstrong
But, I mean, it's just somebody comes up here on the street and says, I really like Fentanyl. I'm taking more Fentanyl every day. And you're thinking, well, you can OD and die. In fact, 100% of people who you said that to would think you're going to OD and die, but they just keep doing it. I feel like that's the situation we're in now because the average voter has no grasp. And this is true in France, it's true in Britain, it's true in the US has no grasp of the concept of fiscal restraint. They, you know, it's too easy to sell them on. You deserve handouts. I just, you know, I don't know how legitimate this quote is. I've seen it a million times old. The Scottish guy that when, when a people realizes it can vote itself money themselves, money from the treasury, a republic is doomed. I'm not sure there's any turning it around short of a cataclysm, but you don't bounce back from every cataclysm. It was like, you're only half serious. God, send me a warning so I get really serious about getting healthy. Like a minor heart attack, right?
Joe Getty
I asked God to give me a minor heart attack so I would start eating better.
Jack Armstrong
Well, your genius, Jack, your unappreciated genius is that's a perfect metaphor for the United States. The only thing that will stop us wolfing down bacon, drinking a quart of bourbon a night and smoking four packs a day is a fiscal heart attack. The problem being you don't always survive them.
Joe Getty
Yeah, well, the pandemic was quite the cataclysm and it didn't make things better anywhere.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah. Oh, you know that it's funny and we're. When we were talking a couple segments ago, whenever it was about young people and young men and their anger and anti Semitism and that whole stew, the writer that I was quoting mentioned how bitterly painful the COVID shutdowns were for young men in so many ways. And it drove them away from girlfriends and real friends and jobs and striving and pride and being a man. Blah blah blah. The COVID shutdowns, which were specifically opposite of what all the health organizations around the world had said they would do when there was a pandemic. They abandoned all their plans and panicked and shut them down and kept the kids out of schools. The rest of it. I don't think we've reckoned with a third of the damage that did. No, definitely the incredible evil that perpetrated. I'll be saying that until I'm lowered into my grave. Straight from our European Union.
Joe Getty
Desk.
Jack Armstrong
Okay, that was Joe Getty's Euroburo. It was so horrible. It was great.
Joe Getty
Oh man.
Jack Armstrong
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The Armstrong and Getty Show Anaheim Police Detective Heather Scaglioni says the thieves used a tablet meant for locksmiths that can connect to technology in newer vehicles. He's Being handed a.
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Like a locksmith tool.
Jack Armstrong
A computer device that plugs into the.
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Computer system in the car so he.
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Can quickly reprogram it and turn the car on so he can leave with that truck. Thieves are also using antennas to pick up signals from key fobs inside homes. Wait a minute.
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Jack Armstrong
And the time to go back to metal keys that just stick in the ignition and twist. Yeah. In the. In the video attached to that news article, it actually showed a ring camera at the front door, and the thieves.
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Were holding an antenna, and they had.
Jack Armstrong
Some kind of device tucked in their.
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Pocket that this thing was connected to. And when they held it up, they just touched the house. And then the car that was parked.
Jack Armstrong
In the driveway started because somebody had already was able to, like, get into it and start the car just by using the key fob signal. Yeah, I remember two cars ago, I think it was.
Joe Getty
Was that your Trans Am?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, with the. The T tops. Yeah, my fob. Key fob kept. The battery kept dying.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
I said, where do you keep it relative to your garage? And it was too close to the garage. They said he either got a shielded or moved it because the car and the key fob keep talking to each other. I didn't know that.
Joe Getty
That's why my battery runs down so fast on my key fob. I feel like I replace it every two weeks, and nobody's ever told me that.
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Jacob Goldstein
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Jack Armstrong
Anyway, so, yeah, obviously they. They are putting out signals and. And, you know, well, putting out signals all the time. So, yeah, you can sniff them and use them to break into a car. What the heck? Death penalty for car thieves.
Joe Getty
There you go. Hang them.
Jack Armstrong
They're the modern horse thieves. Hang them.
Joe Getty
That's right.
Jack Armstrong
Right. Right outside General Motors, you know, Ford or whatever. Maybe it's your local dealer.
Joe Getty
I don't know.
Jack Armstrong
Come on down, bring the kids. We'll spin the wheel of prizes. Hang a car thief. They're actually making these free hot dogs. Yeah, they're making these keychains now, too, that you can get on, like, Amazon or whatever that you just put on there, and then you can tuck your.
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Key fob in that, and it'll block that signal. I saw.
Jack Armstrong
Okay, good. Yeah, excellent.
Joe Getty
There you go.
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Simple solution. Thank you, Katie. Life hack. Yeah. So we're talking about conspiracy theories and how they work and what's at the. The root of them. I remembered a piece I brought to you a while ago, about a month ago, about gnosticism, How a lot of the people pushing this stuff are like, the first century Gnostics, a Christian heresy that holds that the material world is evil, that a special knowledge, or gnosis with a g lifts us out of its corruptions into redemption. Salvation, under its theory, requires neither faith nor action, only the recognition that you're being lied to and that your soul belongs elsewhere. Gnosticism, like orthodox religions, asks why evil exists. But instead of traditional answers rooted in personal responsibility, it posits that malevolent forces control the world. Knowledge of these forces becomes the work itself. Discover them and you are redeemed. Which is interesting. But then this from Claire Lehman, a piece called the New Medievals. And he goes into a variety of people, including Candace Owens, who has been implicating everyone in the murder, from the Israeli government to Turning Point USA itself to Erica Kirk. And last week her speculation reached its apogee when she suggested that Donald Trump himself was involved. Which which is, well, what the hell, go for a touchdown if you're throwing the ball. But then, she writes Claire writes Owens, wild theorizing isn't an anomaly. It's part of something older and darker. There's a distinctly medieval quality to much of the conspiratorial right a world animated by unseen cabals, moral corruption, and divine punishment disguised as politics. Then she talks about how in journalism, if it bleeds, it leads. And any story that features a villain or a group of villains doing something dastardly to innocent victims is much more likely to be read and shared than an article that, say, debunks such narratives with statistics, she explains. Our mammalian brains are wired to perceive and anthropomorphize threats. When our ancestors saw thunderbolts crashing down from the sky, they didn't think it was caused by electricity in the air and complex weather systems, but by the wrath of vengeful gods.
Joe Getty
That's what I believe.
Jack Armstrong
That looks like humans. Yeah, Jack still believes that we have to talk him down after every weather forecast. But so media entrepreneurs entrepreneurs, whether it's a Candace Owens or a big publisher or executive, knows that readers want to be frightened by stories of plotters, vandals, criminals and killers in literature and film. Disproportionate attention compared with the works of other sorts. For example, thrillers make up over 12% of adult fiction sales in the U.S. true Pride crime podcasts account for nearly a quarter of the top ranked shows. It's very, very hot. Yet conspiracy theories, those tales of shadowy cabals wreaking havoc in the world, seem to be the most seductive at all. I'm sorry, the most seductive of all. They combine the adrenaline of a thriller with the morality of a fable. These moral horror stories, as literary professor Jonathan Ghoshal argues in a 2021 book called the Story Paradox, succeeded not because they persuade people rationally, but because they gratify audiences on an emotional level. He wrote, quote, conspiracy stories promise heroes and villains, secret clues and moral urgency, and each one invites the listener to join a righteous crusade. That's a really good example. Heroes and villains, secret clues and moral urgency, and you get to join a righteous crusade.
Joe Getty
I get this and clearly it's true. I just, it's interesting to me that some people like me just aren't susceptible to it if it doesn't make sense. Like, I don't get that, and then there's no proof that it's that this is true. And then I just let it go.
Jack Armstrong
You know, one more note before the break and then I want to come back with more of this because it's super thought provoking. But he mentions she ment a couple of scientific experiments, psychological experiments through the years where people who feel powerless, confused, overwhelmed, powerless begin to see patterns that are not there because they really want to bring order to the disorder that they perceive. Quote Participants who lack control were more likely to perceive a variety of illusory patterns, including seeing images and noise, forming illusory correlations in stock markets information, perceiving conspiracies and developing superstitions, the authors wrote. Another 2020 study found that the lack of sense of lack of agency also predicted belief in Jewish conspiracies specifically.
Joe Getty
Well, maybe that's why conspiracies don't work on me then. I don't generally feel powerless or lacking agency, so they don't grab me in the same way.
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Release Date: November 26, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts
This replay episode revisits heated debates and thoughtful commentary on contemporary culture war issues, ranging from women's rights and the trans debate to the unsettling advent of AI-generated music, cunning vehicle thefts, and society’s ongoing fascination with conspiracy theories. The hour is a mix of sharp humor, social analysis, and real frustration with modern political and social trends, especially as they manifest on the left and in progressive strongholds like California and Europe.
(Start: 03:46 – 15:31)
The hour opens with discussion surrounding Riley Gaines, a former college swimmer turned activist for women’s sports, and her negative treatment at colleges for speaking out on these issues.
They highlight the story of Tish Hyman, a Black lesbian woman verbally and physically harassed by a trans-identifying male in a women’s gym locker room, and her subsequent clash with progressive California lawmaker Scott Wiener.
Jack and Joe satirize the performance of intersectional politics—particularly how progressive hierarchies sometimes result in the erasure or sidelining of certain groups (e.g., Black women vs. trans women).
Memorable moment: Tish Hyman’s fiery exit from the meeting, emphasizing the real consequences of these debates for women’s safety and critiquing what she views as the cynical use of civil rights language for unrelated agendas.
(16:13 – 19:45)
Jack and Joe grapple with their unease over an AI-generated country song making waves on the charts, voicing concerns about the future of creativity and authenticity in music.
The discussion expands to lament the corporatization and commodification of pop music over the past few decades—fears now amplified by AI replicating (and perhaps surpassing) human vulnerability and artistry.
Deep discomfort with the notion of computers mimicking human pain, especially in lyrics ostensibly about raw emotion:
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Joe launches into the “Euro Bureau,” critiquing the economic malaise in Western Europe—illustrated by museum heists in underfunded France, ballooning government budgets, rampant taxation, and sluggish growth in the UK and Germany.
Bigger picture: the hosts argue America’s on the same path, with voters ill-informed about the costs of social spending and “no grasp of fiscal restraint.”
(38:06 – 40:15)
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Jack delivers an analysis on why people are drawn to conspiracy theories, comparing modern right-wing conspiracism to religious Gnosticism—seeking secret knowledge as a form of salvation.
Drawing on psychological studies, they explain how feelings of powerlessness lead people to perceive patterns and adopt conspiratorial worldviews.
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This Armstrong & Getty episode is irreverent, sarcastic, and often bitterly funny, blending social commentary with sharp personal asides and a touch of cultural nostalgia. The hosts’ frustration with contemporary progressivism, technological overreach, and economic mismanagement is palpable and delivered with their trademark banter.
If you missed this episode, you’ll come away knowing:
As always, Armstrong & Getty balance biting critique with enough humor to keep things lively, their exasperation with the modern world always laced with a wry sense of perspective.