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Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.
Guest/Caller 1
Woke ain't dead Here in California this week, they canceled the governor's debate because some people were outraged that the top six candidates were all white, even though this is what the people voted for and the people are 62% minority. Just because the top six candidates are all white, it doesn't mean there's no diversity. I mean, I see all different types of people I don't want.
Jack Armstrong
So I saw an interview on CNN with the professor there at USC who came up with the formula that ended up being too white. So they canceled the debate. He said, I used the same formula that Harvard and Stanford and everybody's used for all kinds of elections. Everybody's. It's just. This is just how it turned out.
Joe Getty
Right? Right. What really happened was that they didn't have enough people who are going to be prostitutes to the public employee unions. So the powers that actually run California said ics nag. We're not letting the moderates and the Steve Hiltons of the world get more Chad Blanco. We're not letting him get more attention. That's almost certainly what happened.
Jack Armstrong
Aren't they gonna get a Republican elected that way though, continuing to split the vote so many different ways, you get more people on the stage and act like they have a chance to win.
Joe Getty
Well, again, it's not more people. It's the right people from their perspective because they're desperate to keep the kleptocracy going. So more on that as it develops. But speaking cal unicornia, then we're going to broaden very quickly. So hang with us no matter where you live. California's trying to get that billionaire tax going. It's a disastrous ide idea. It's a terrible idea for a number of different reasons. And the golden goose is already flying the coop, as it were. Do you keep gooses in in coops? I don't know. Anyway, the initiative backed by the giant public employees union, the SEIU, would impose a one time 5% tax on the wealth, the accumulated wealth, stocks and bonds.
Jack Armstrong
It will be one. It, it won't end up being one time, as we all know, because no taxes are, but it will be one time in effect because the billionaires were leave so you won't get a chance to do it again.
Joe Getty
Indeed, quite a few have already left, costing many, many hundreds of millions of dollars in tax Revenue that would have been coming in, interestingly enough. But this is worth mentioning. Even before the billionaire tax was floated, the state was losing significant tax revenue as rich residents departed. And they name check Larry Ellison, Elon Musk, Sergey Brin, Larry Page, Mark Zuckerberg, all of these guys are moving or in the process of moving. Together, those five men accounted for roughly 1.7 out of the $1.8 trillion held by California's six richest residents earlier in the decade. And they point out that in Cal. Unicornia. Let's see, where are those figures? Oh, first of all, the union is trying to claim that this will raise 100 million. It's going to be probably closer to 40 million because of taxpayer MOP.
Jack Armstrong
So explain this to me. Do they, do they just not believe it? The people that are pushing this, did they not believe that the billionaires will leave?
Joe Getty
No, they're not thinking about the long term at all. They just want the one time cash grab for themselves. It's horrific tax policy. It's idiotic. It's, it's short term thinking. But they don't care. They will just grab the cash for themselves. So according to the LAO in California. Listen to this, would you? And, and we've talked about this for years as the show is based out of California, but the top 1% of taxpayers generate what percentage of the total income tax would you guess?
Jack Armstrong
It's going to be shocking.
Joe Getty
1% generate 40% of the state's income tax.
Jack Armstrong
When as I always say, if that's not the fair share, what is? What's the correct percentage for 1% of people to pay of overall taxes if it's not 40%?
Joe Getty
And from the Democrats perspective, that has one great after effect or result in one terrible one. The great one is that they can funnel whatever graft to their cronies they want because the percentage of people who are actually paying the bulk of the bill is so small they can in fact order anything they want for dinner. And the small percentage that are paying the taxes are way too small to vote them out.
Jack Armstrong
This is the argument that always needs to be pitched that I think a lot of people miss why you would care. Because you know, I was about to say very few people are in the 1%. I'd say roughly 99% of people are not in the 1%.
Joe Getty
The figures check out before 99% of us.
Jack Armstrong
You might think, well what do I care? The reason you have to care is because it leads to all kinds of stupid programs. Yeah, because you can't get the 99 aren't going to get worked up about the bullet train or whatever if you're not paying for it.
Joe Getty
Right, right. Or if you expand it to 5%, that covers virtually all of the income tax covered in California, or collected, rather. So recently, congenital liar Gavin Newsom claimed that California is actually more tax friendly than Florida, blah, blah, blah. Texas and Florida are the real high tax states. California has the most progressive tax race in America. Your middle class pays more taxes in Texas, blah, blah, blah. And he went on and on. It's a great mythology. It's just the richest of the rich come here because they can't avo avoid paying a damn penny, he said of Texas, which is interesting. So a number of tax experts in a nonpartisan way attacked this and said, all right, let's talk about how taxes actually work. And this is the part I found just interesting in a nonpartisan way. Next segment, by the, by the differences, state to state, in what it takes to be, quote, unquote, rich. Found that very interesting. Anyway, so this one tax expert says, I looked at how much each state is taxing each of its citizens on average. So if you look at California, they collect about $10,000 a year in taxes for every person in the state. Although again, it's, it's very progressive is the word, or uneven. Whereas the figure for Texas and Florida are not $10,000. They're about $5,000, about half as much. However, California is a higher income tax or higher income state. So I also looked at it as a percentage of the state's economies, which is, again, this is not partisan. This is trying to understand what's actually happening. What I found is that California taxes about 14% of its economy, as opposed to 9% for Texas and Florida. So it's a smaller difference, but it's pretty significant difference. Another organization broke those taxes down. Recent study found that California imposes some of the highest taxes in the nation. Top personal income tax rate of 13.3%. Texas and Florida have no state income tax.
Jack Armstrong
Man, that's a lot of money.
Joe Getty
Let's look at property taxes in California. They account for about 2.8% of personal income, slightly lower than Texas at 3.6% and Florida at 2.6. Actually, it's bigger than Florida's, though. Measured as a share of home values, California's rates are generally lower than both states. But another at tax areas, California is largely more burdensome. The state's unemployment insurance tax rate matches Texas at 6.2%, but it's higher than Florida's 5.4. California also has a higher statewide sales tax at 7.2 compared to 6.2 in Texas, 6% in Florida. Drivers in California face significantly higher gas taxes, as any Californian can tell you, paying about 71 cents per gallon more than triple Texas 20% and well above Florida's 40 cents. Let's see a Wallet Hub analysis ranked US states by overall tax burden showed California coming in at fourth overall, fourth highest behind Vermont, New York and Hawaii on everything on a per capita basis. California also collects significantly more in state and state and local taxes, according to data from the Tax Foundation. At the heart of the issue is the data Mr. Agresty, one of the experts, says making the case that Newsom is likely pulling from a different organization, which is widely used by mainstream media outlets and experts put quote, is fatally flawed because it does not account for all forms of income or all taxes. Anyway, it's complicated. There's even more to this, believe it or not. But he said Newsom is a master of twisting statistics to paint a picture that is the exact inverse of reality and pointed to the governor's claim that the exodus of residents due to high taxes is a myth. Well, you know, you don't need any counterfactuals to that. The, the departure from California is partly taxes. Politics costs crowded as a hundred different things.
Jack Armstrong
I was listening to a tax expert the other day explain all the advantages and how most economics economists agree and I don't know if this is true or not. This is what he said. Most economists agree on the fact that some sort of consumption tax or whatever you want to call it, you know, just having tax on things you buy would be the best way to do it, to spread it around. That's just, you know, riches, rich people buy more stuff or whatever, all the kind, and, and we just plain bring in more money and it gets around all of the ways people can cheat the system and not have to pay taxes.
Joe Getty
Right?
Jack Armstrong
Because everybody's paying. Doesn't matter if you're a drug dealer or illegal gambling or, or whatever you are, you still pay that tax when
Joe Getty
you go buy a car or go
Jack Armstrong
out to eat or whatever, right?
Joe Getty
Why is the U S. Tax code so complicated? Two answers. Number one, it's used as a social engineering tool sometimes in ways that I like helping families, for instance. But mostly it's because people who have access to power twist the tax code into ways that benefit them, period.
Jack Armstrong
And people are stupid because you can make a very easy argument to people who aren't paying attention and don't look into it. And they think, well, because then you hear the car will cost, you know, $30,000 more than it does now. Well, then we can't do that. No, you moron, you buy a car once every five years and you're going to be paying any income tax. It's all I know is my car
Joe Getty
is more expensive, you know. Finally, on this topic, these experts also take aim at the. California has the fourth largest economy in the world, and they say you've got to engage in some serious currency exchange, you know, hoodwinking to get that number. It's not true.
Jack Armstrong
I've always wondered about that.
Joe Getty
No, it's not true. Hmm.
Jack Armstrong
Sure gets thrown around a lot.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to get into the technical aspects of it, but it's, It's. It's misleading. And so next segment, I want to at least touch on exactly how much money it takes to be rich in every US states. In every US state, and how much those people, the top 5%, specifically, make as multiples of the median income in their state.
Jack Armstrong
And the latest on Tiger woods, who lives in the state of inebriation.
Joe Getty
Sidewalks. Tigers behind the wheel again.
Jack Armstrong
So stick around, Tiger. I hear you.
Joe Getty
So stick around, Armstrong and Getty. What you're about to hear before we get to the how much it takes to be rich is a gentleman in his car telling dad jokes, and his pet hyena reacts to the jokes.
Jack Armstrong
He's got a pet hyena?
Joe Getty
There are so many questions, but first, the audio.
Jack Armstrong
Did you know I once bought a
Joe Getty
dog from a blacksmith?
Jack Armstrong
As soon as we got it home,
Joe Getty
it made a bolt for the door.
Guest/Caller 2
Oh, man.
Joe Getty
I accidentally sprayed Axe body spray into my mouth. Now I talk with an accent. Eddie, have you heard of the new movie called Constipation? Hasn't come out yet.
Jack Armstrong
Candy, do you know I have a fear of German sausages?
Joe Getty
I always fear the worst. All right, why every video needs overly loud music in the water. Modern world, I don't get, but okay, let's start with. Wait, you have a pet hyena.
Jack Armstrong
I had an accent. What? Can you have a pet hyena? Is that a thing?
Joe Getty
Check your local ordinances. I would think at some point it would pretty much state to state.
Jack Armstrong
I would think at some point it would rip your neck open.
Joe Getty
Yeah, you'd think. Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
I'm seeing they can't truly be domesticated, so you're kind of taking a risk. I saw that picture. I mean, people have pet wolves and they often get eaten by them, but did he actually have a hyena sit in the back seat of his car.
Joe Getty
In the front seat of his car. And the thing, when it makes that noise, throws its head back like it's laughing. It was hilariously funny. But again, more questions than answers.
Jack Armstrong
And they're both. They're both wearing little beanies until it eats the neighbor kid. It's hilarious.
Joe Getty
Lord, somebody turned on the lights. It got dark in here.
Jack Armstrong
And how did he get it to make that noise on cue?
Joe Getty
Because I don't think it gets the jokes. I think it's the worst.
Jack Armstrong
I think it just understands corny humor.
Joe Getty
Wow, that was odd. All right, we'll post the video so you can enjoy it. What?
Jack Armstrong
Hot links, Katie. Or I'll make a separate post so it's easy to find.
Joe Getty
Okay. At armstrong and getty.com. show it to your kids before the hyena eats them. Anyway, so how much money it takes to be rich in every US State? For instance, what could make you a fat cat in Kentucky makes you middle class in Massachusetts is fairly easy to understand.
Jack Armstrong
I don't want to bog you down, but what, what, what is this? What's the standard for rich?
Joe Getty
Top 5% of income.
Jack Armstrong
Okay, yeah.
Joe Getty
In each state. In Connecticut, which stops the country in the amount of money required to be a top earner, average income of the top 5% is 7 times the median income. But what's interesting is that figure is very consistent among the states. For instance, in West Virginia, which ranks lowest for the dollar amount it takes to be rich at 345, about $346,000 is nearly six times higher than the median income, which is $61,000. And again, it's remarkably consistent. Your top state, again, is Connecticut. You got to earn $692,000 to be in the top 5%. Woof.
Jack Armstrong
Wow.
Joe Getty
In New York, Massachusetts, Cal Unicornia, $633,000 to be in the top five percent. Then New Jersey, Washington. If anybody has a particular interest in any of these states, stop me. I was going to hit, you know, just a sampling.
Jack Armstrong
Indiana.
Joe Getty
Well, hang on a second. Washington State, where the Armstrong and Getty show is huge. 613,000. Wow. Colorado, Hawaii, Maryland will get. Don't say Indiana again. Virginia, New Hampshire, Illinois, about 527,000. Then you got Florida at 513 Tejas. Let's see. Nevada, you got to make 499 grand.
Jack Armstrong
I wonder what that. I'm trying to figure out what. I wonder what that stat means. I understand technically what it means, but what it means about your
Joe Getty
yeah, well, go ahead, finish the thought if you want.
Jack Armstrong
So if you're, if you're in the top 5%, I understand why you'd consider that rich. You're in the top 5% of your state. But are there states where being in the top 5% and you're still living a pretty modest lifestyle? I don't know.
Joe Getty
Yeah, see one of the. When we started barely talking about whether California is the fourth biggest economy in the world, and I was talking about how Japan's actually got a much bigger economy. There's a economic thing where if you assess the size of an economy based on what you can do with the money you earn in that economy, for instance, if the Republican Joe Gettysville has an economy that's a third the size of the United States, but that one third income that I earned there gets me everything, a triple that size income would get me in the United States, same house, same car, same lifestyle, then who actually has a bigger economy, quote unquote, for domestic reasons. So your bottom five states, your, your poorest states, New Mexico, Arkansas, Kentucky, Mississippi, and again West Virginia, where 345 grand will get you in the top 5%. 345 compared to number one, Connecticut, which again is virtually 700,000.
Jack Armstrong
So sportscaster celebrity Stephen A. Smith talking about running for president as a Democrat. I don't know if his trans views will work. We got some of that coming up.
Joe Getty
Armstrong and Getty.
Jack Armstrong
So baseball season's underway and the Los Angeles Dodgers, two time defending champion, are among a handful of teams that are 3 0. But somehow the conversation got started that they might win 120 games this year, which would break the all time record which sits at 116. The Mariners did it in 2001, then lost in the first round. The Cubs did it in 1906.
Joe Getty
God, I remember that. That was a great season.
Jack Armstrong
How many games did they even play back then? I mean, as a percentage, that's gonna be. Anyway, I don't know if the Dodgers will win 120. And we also got the modern world, where you sit, your stars, if you get ahead. But anywho, wanted to mention this? The. I don't know if you saw the video of the fight in the stands that opened. The two women fighting in the stands. That was pretty good. But anyway, somebody brought up the idea of the $7,500 Shohei Ohtani souvenir cup.
Joe Getty
We get $7,500.
Jack Armstrong
No, I'm sorry, $75. 75 plastic cup. You do get free refills. Oh, during the game. Well, thank you for that. Well, there was such an outcry over that over the first couple of games that they changed the policy. And now you're going to get refills the entire season. Still, $75 for a plastic cup. Now, if you drink a lot of pop and you need to at the game, I suppose you come out ahead at some point if you go to a lot of games, because what's it cost? Eight bucks to get a couple $0.01 sugar water. How about the co. The testicles? I guess if you're going to have all the most expensive players in the world, you got to charge $75 for a plastic cup that says Otani on it.
Joe Getty
Well, and they're so easy to produce. It reminds me of Internet scams. Why don't we see if somebody will pay 75 bucks for this cup?
Jack Armstrong
If not, we'll sell them for 10, I suppose. Anyway, Speaking of sports, one of the biggest names in sports, if not the biggest name in sports announcing, is Stephen A. Smith. He's been giant deal on ESPN for a very long time. And his hot takes and his strong opinions, he keeps seriously talking about running for president on the Democrat side, like he's seriously looking into it. And I mean, he's certainly got the verbal game, no doubt about that. He stepped out of. He stepped out of the mainstream of Democrats running for president, but into the mainstream of Democrats that exist in the country by taking a strong stance on the whole trans thing. With Bill Maher on Friday night on the HBO show, here's how it went.
Guest/Caller 1
The Olympics have said they are not allowing trans women anymore competing in women's sports.
Guest/Caller 2
If it's an issue within the Democratic Party, that's their own damn problem. Biological men should not be competing against biological girls in sports. I am a supporter of the LGBTQ community. I don't want to get in the way of anybody's civil rights, civil liberties or anything like that. But what about protecting the young ladies? Young ladies going up against men, you know, biological men, There is no excuse for that.
Jack Armstrong
So I freaking hope he runs just because it would perhaps drag the party closer to the sane side with him saying that. But he goes on the way, you
Guest/Caller 2
know what you could be, you know, Liam Thomas, for example, was, you know, was a male. And he was ranked. He was ranked like over 400th in the world. And then she. And then he became a she. Okay? He became, you know, transitioning and number one. Well, damn it. Does it really take an Einstein to realize that there's Something wrong with that picture?
Jack Armstrong
I mean, are we kidding ourselves? No, but we're talking sports. That's my lane.
Guest/Caller 2
And I'm telling you, there is no reason for a biological male to be competing in women's sports. We certainly don't see biological women transitioning and trying to compete in men's sports. I don't hear about that.
Jack Armstrong
So does the crowd. Is the crowd the sort of people that just show up and are going to cheer for anything anybody says, no matter what? I don't know how sheepish they all are.
Joe Getty
Well, they, they, their cheering represents the vast majority of sane human beings.
Jack Armstrong
Right. I'm sure that's true even in the Democratic Party, but it is, you know, the LA crowd. Anyhow, I don't hear any booze or anything like that. And then Bill Maher asks the obvious
Guest/Caller 1
question when the Democratic debates come. Yeah. Is there one candidate on that stage who's going to be clear like this, who's going to just say it outright like that?
Guest/Caller 2
No.
Guest/Caller 1
Exactly. And that's why they're going to be vulnerable.
Guest/Caller 2
That's why they've been vulnerable.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Correct.
Jack Armstrong
He's right. You think, you think they're going to keep going down that road? I mean, I know they attacked Gavin Newsom for making a wishy washy. He didn't even take a stance position on the whole thing.
Joe Getty
Right.
Jack Armstrong
Well, the left, the Twitter left, he should just completely ignore that. I mean, maybe it's because he grew up in the Bay Area talking about Gavin Newsom. Maybe it's because he grew up in the Bay Area and he's lived in California for so long. How does he not recognize that's not the mainstream? Of course you got to get the nomination.
Guest/Caller 2
Yeah.
Joe Getty
It's that I was about to say I need to know more about, like, poll results among the core Democratic primary voters because they are a weird beast on average compared to the average American.
Jack Armstrong
I just can't believe that there, there aren't power brokers in the Democratic Party, whether it's Rahm Emanuel or, you know, if Gavin, Gavin Newsom has to know this or somebody and say, look, we're never going to win a national election again with this ridiculous trans stance. All right? Or free health care for illegals. It just, we can't ever win this, this. So we got to quit getting on stage, having somebody ask show of hands who thinks all illegals should get free health care and we all raise our hand. We're not gonna win that way. I don't know. I just can't believe that there aren't more of the powerful, like the people that control the money or something. Who doesn't say that out loud?
Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah. That just shows you the extent to which that, that adamant, vicious minority can just cow people into silence. That first clip. No way men should compete against women in women's sports again. I picture somebody waking up from a coma after like 10 years and saying, wait a minute. What? Well, right, but why are we even talking about this?
Jack Armstrong
Right, right.
Joe Getty
What's next? Should grown men be allowed to dominate Little League?
Jack Armstrong
What are you even talking about?
Joe Getty
Yeah, you'd have to explain it to them and they would not believe you.
Jack Armstrong
I haven't.
Joe Getty
Don't let these people compel you to say something you know not to be true. A man can become a woman and that, that, and that makes that person a woman.
Jack Armstrong
God, I hope he runs. I hope he runs because I think, I think he'd be able to get on whatever stage. I think he'd get enough support, particularly from the black community, to get on whatever stage. And then, you know, somebody boo him dead. Naming Leah Thomas or whatever the way he just did. He'd be like, what are you talking about?
Joe Getty
Politicians are cowards. There is very little leadership, very little moral leadership these days. But if somebody like Stephen A. Smith could take the bullets and as they say in politics, grant the permission structure for other people to start saying it out loud, even that would be useful.
Jack Armstrong
I think he can get on stage.
Joe Getty
Has disgusted me, but I think he
Jack Armstrong
could get on a stage and just say, we're never gonna win another election as long as we have this ridiculous position.
Joe Getty
Oh, please, Stephen. I'll don donate money to your, your candidacy.
Jack Armstrong
And he and Roma manual at high five.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
And then probably walk off the stage before they even got to Iowa at some point because the party wouldn't let them win. I don't know. I don't know. I, I, I gotta believe those days are over. I, I, I really think they are.
Joe Getty
But yeah. Yeah. Coming up next hour, I'm pretty excited about this. We're going to take another look at the no Kings rallies, which were successful because I checked this morning, we don't have a king in the United States. So way to go everybody, with your weak act. Group therapy section session. Rah rah. We're all together on like 11 different causes, but the one thing we know is we all hate Trump and conservatives are fascists. Ridiculous protest. And who's the money behind a lot of these protests that I guarantee you'll find interesting.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, I Don't know that story.
Joe Getty
Oh yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Cool. And we have breaking Cher news.
Joe Getty
So all of that didn't Tiger woods run share over.
Jack Armstrong
All of that's none of your business. Yeah, stay here.
Joe Getty
Armstrong and Getty,
Jack Armstrong
I know we all had the same question over the weekend. Is Cher married?
Joe Getty
Gives me allergies.
Jack Armstrong
She and her fiance are denying it though. They are engaged and they were supposed to get married in March and March is almost over. Cher is an 80 year old pop singer. Alexander Edwards is a 39 year old nut job as far as I can tell.
Joe Getty
Sounds like a nice pairing.
Jack Armstrong
I mean they do have a 40 year age gap so I don't know, who knows, who knows what goes on and things like that. I just, I can't even imagine. I was watching part of a reality show. What was it? It was, it's like a dating thing like the Bachelor, Bachelorette on Netflix and I saw half of the first episode for some reason and it was a bunch of singles got together. But you keep your age a secret and some of them are quite a bit older and some of them are quite young and you talk to each other and it's hard to tell. And it's all about guessing how old because they're. You can't really tell because there's a lot of hot.
Joe Getty
Everybody's hot. Right.
Jack Armstrong
It's just all the people talking about finally finding true love and this and that and they seem sincere. So you went to a game show.
Joe Getty
They know what they're getting to be on camera.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know. They're all so wacky. I think they are sincere because half of them seem like nuts, like actual crazy people. So I think they are sincere
Joe Getty
celebrity couplings. I forgot to mention when we were talking about Tiger woods that he's with a Trump right now. His girlfriend is some buxom, beautiful, middle aged Trump cast off.
Jack Armstrong
Well, she was sort or another. She was married to or with Trump Jr. Donald Trump Jr. Or Eric Trump. One of them.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Like I say they, they leave. They leave beautiful women behind them. Like I don't know, car leaves exhaust behind it.
Jack Armstrong
I think she left him. Either way doesn't make sense.
Joe Getty
Fair enough.
Jack Armstrong
Got this text from a cop about the whole Tiger woods thing. Might as well hit you that with it here because I'm really hoping he spends time in jail. He's gonna. It's amazing he hasn't wiped somebody out and killed him. Somebody on their bike on the. You know when he's going around one of those corners at 80 miles an hour and Rolls his vehicles. Selfish scumbag. Anyway, we got this text. As a retired cop, if Florida is anything like California, Tiger will likely see zero jail time. His injury in the first incident doesn't elevate the charge. Only injuries to other people count for that. Between diversion programs and the soft on crime nature of society in general right now, people just don't see serious consequences outside of financial these days for dui. And that doesn't matter to him until you start getting hit with felony DUIs. Even then I've seen people get probation only after killing people. So it's pretty hard to end up in jail on a dui, I guess. And yeah, I think what scares a lot of people about DUIs is the cost, what it does to your insurance and all that sort of stuff. But you know, obviously that's a non factor for Tiger Woods.
Joe Getty
Right, right. I mean it's worth doing the, the comparison where if I faced say a $10,000 fine, what would that fine have to be? Given Tiger's net worth, which is so many multiples of mine, it's not even worth discussing.
Jack Armstrong
Certainly have to be a million or more. Right.
Joe Getty
It might have to be 50 million because he's worth $1.5 billion.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
So that's a hundred million times 15.
Jack Armstrong
Right. A million dollars isn't going to change his behavior.
Joe Getty
Right.
Jack Armstrong
Interesting. How much time I got, Michael, do I have time for this or not? I don't know. I used up all my time talking about share.
Joe Getty
Oh, you got five minutes.
Jack Armstrong
Okay, so that's the first time I've ever said that sentence. This is from 60 Minutes last night found it fascinating.
Joe Getty
The traditional front line in Ukraine has
Guest/Caller 2
expanded to a roughly 10 mile wide
Joe Getty
strip called the kill zone. Anyone who sets foot there can be spotted by a drone operator and hunted down.
Guest/Caller 2
This was a narrow escape for some Ukrainian soldiers.
Jack Armstrong
The feature, the second story on 60 Minutes was all about the drone war between Russia and Ukraine. And we've, we've been following the war at all. You're probably aware of this. And they emphasized how the entire way war is waged has changed since the war between Russia and Ukraine. Almost all of your old equipment, as we're seeing in Iran, a lot of your old equipment is just either obsolete now or so vulnerable. And then the cost differential is just so crazy. You got thousand dollar drones being taken out by million dollar missiles and you just can't keep up with that. And then that stuff you just heard about the kill zone, the way that they can hunt down and everything, it's Amazing. Really something. And that's when it gets super troubling. So you got somebody sitting somewhere, could be anywhere in the world, really, piloting a drone, and they're just flying around and they see a guy, and it might be a soldier or it might be a woman walking home from the grocery store. If you're Russia and you just come in with that drone and you just follow them around, you kill them. And they got into the story a little bit during the broadcast, but really got into it in the 60 minutes overtime. I actually went to the website and watched the extra segment because I thought the story was so damn good. Really something about the innovation. They're talking about how innovation happens on a weekly basis, weekly basis, on where Russia does something and then you have to change your drones to counter it. Then they do something to counter that and it goes back and forth so incredibly fast now. And this guy they had who was a Ukrainian dude, but he said, we got pretty close to parody now. We were way ahead in the whole drone thing for a long time, and now there's pretty much parity between Russia and the Ukraine. It's a day by day race to see by who's ahead, which is troubling in all kinds of different levels. But they got into the idea of, I'm going to sneeze. Here we go.
Joe Getty
Stand by, everybody. Jack is sneezing. Anybody hurt?
Jack Armstrong
They got into the idea of the fully autonomous drone situation. That would be when you don't have somebody sitting somewhere in a room looking at a screen, driving the drone, chasing people down, killing them. When it's just AI searching for people and chasing people down and killing them. And for whatever reason, I guess that strikes a lot of people as really awful when it's just completely automated. This is the part that I thought was interesting. And they're talking about this Ukrainian drone expert. He was really against this happening, but he was asked by Holly Williams of 60 Minutes, is there a point in the future when humans will be outside the process? The Ukrainian drone expert said, I don't know. Whichever country starts effectively using swarms of drones is going to have a massive advantage? Holly Williams asked. He said, in my belief, yes. Both countries are close. None have gone there yet. In other words, it's just a matter of time before somebody goes there. They're talking about the drone swarm. So you'll have a. That's something individuals can't do because you can't really run a whole bunch of different drones at the same time. It'd just be almost impossible. AI can though. And so they'll send a swarm of drones into a village and they'll just go out hunting people and killing them and people will be running for their lives from a thousand dollar drone that's going to put a bullet in the back of their head.
Joe Getty
And it's going to be hunt as teams like, you know, dolphins or sharks or lions or whatever.
Jack Armstrong
Absolutely. And you could tell from the, the, the, the tone of his voice and everything like that. Look, grow up. It's gonna happen. We ain't gonna do it first, but it's gonna happen. And when it does happen, we're probably gonna start doing it. That's the way I read everything he was saying there.
Joe Getty
Oh, clearly. Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
So that, and he said, and we're really close, both of us are really close. So it's just, it's, that's going to change everything on planet Earth and it's coming any day.
Joe Getty
So here's, here's my question. Holly Williams did a nice job on that story, but by her accident, she's clearly a Kiwi, a New Zealander. Why do we need New Zealanders coming into this country to take jobs from our attractive, square jawed, white toothed, attractive women who can speak clearly? Do we need to import, you know, southern hemisphere rights to take our hotties jobs? I'm outraged.
Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
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In this episode, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty dive into a range of current events and social issues with their signature irreverent tone and banter. They kick off with political turmoil in California, focusing on the state's wealth tax proposals and their economic impact, then turn to broader economic discussions, comedic asides (including a man with a pet hyena), debates about what constitutes "rich" across the U.S., and contemporary controversies including trans athletes in sports. The episode also touches on celebrity news, the evolution of warfare in Ukraine, and concludes with commentary on technology, AI, and shifting societal norms.
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This episode delivers Armstrong & Getty’s trademark mashup: insightful (and skeptical) dives into economic and political issues, off-beat humor, and sharp-tongued commentary on social controversies. Listeners are offered a whirlwind tour of California state politics, national debates on justice and fairness, cultural quirks, celebrity tidbits, and deep unease about future warfare—always with a wink, a wisecrack, and a relentless demand for common sense.