All We Have Left Is Coconut Mocha

Summary

Podcast Summary: Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: All We Have Left Is Coconut Mocha
Date: April 14, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Platform: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode revolves around two central themes:

• The chaotic state of global affairs, including the ongoing conflict with Iran, its energy implications, global diplomatic drama, and the unpredictable course of the war.
• A scathing critique of public education, the role of teachers’ unions—particularly as illustrated by the Los Angeles Unified School District—and the consequences for American students.

Throughout, Armstrong & Getty bring their signature blend of dry humor, sharp skepticism, and exasperated commentary on the state of current events and culture.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The War with Iran and Media Narratives

• Hot Takes vs. Nuance (04:04–05:48):

  • The hosts critique the media’s tendency to declare winners and losers in the Iran war, even though it’s only been six weeks:

    “It's like the bottom of the second inning… and it's already, ‘No, it's failure. This game's over,’” (Jack, 04:11).

  • They note the absence of voices willing to admit uncertainty:

    “If somebody on cable news… ever said, ‘You know, it’s too early to tell. Who knows? Good signs, some bad signs,’ would they just send you home?” (Joe, 05:06).

• Trump, the Pope & Media Hypocrisy (05:25–06:36):

  • Satirical take on the media’s sudden concern for the Pope’s feelings after Trump’s “Jesus healing” image.
  • The hosts highlight how coverage is often phony:

    “You don’t like anybody who’s religious. Who are you trying to kid?” (Joe, 05:48).

  • Trump’s supposed atheism and cultural ignorance is lampooned:

    “He has no idea that that iconography is Christ… He just thought it looks like a doctor healing a guy or something.” (Jack, 06:36).

• Iran Negotiations & International Power Play (07:09–09:38):

  • Discussion around the strategic importance of the Strait of Hormuz and why European allies aren’t stepping in more forcefully (07:09–08:07).
  • The current state of US-Iran negotiations:

    “Iran's saying they'll agree to five years, and we're saying it’s got to be 20…” (Joe, 08:20–09:20).

  • Skepticism about negotiation outcomes if robust verification isn’t included:

    “It just doesn’t matter unless there’s a verification regime in place.” (Jack, 09:57).

2. Vaccine Beer and Science Curiosities

• The First “Vaccine Beer” (10:24–11:47):
  • Hosts mock the concept of delivering vaccines in beer rather than, say, juice or water.

  • “Can we come up with maybe anti-beer-otics or beer control pills? Why stop now?” (Jack, 10:48).

  • Skepticism about why an intoxicant would be the delivery method.

3. Springsteen Concert & Generational Observations

• Concert Recap (11:50–12:55):
  • Joe shares a personally reflective moment about pushing through tiredness after a late Springsteen concert—“toughing it out”—and laughs about the ear-ringing experience.

4. Media Headlines & Rapid-Fire Commentary

• Roundup of News Stories (16:03–21:59):

  • Iran’s uranium enrichment negotiations, skepticism about Iran’s honesty:

    “I don't know why Iran wouldn't just agree again and cheat. That's what they've always done.” (Joe, 16:30).

  • The “NoBama Agreement” as shorthand for the 2015 Iran nuclear deal.
  • Trump’s Christ image and Pope flap—general consensus among religious conservatives was negative, but little lasting political impact anticipated (18:33–19:02).
  • Meta’s “creepy” Mark Zuckerberg AI:

    “The original is creepy. Right. The real deal is creepy.” (Jack, 19:59).

  • The world’s oldest gorilla turning 69:

    “No woman wants to be called Fato.” (Joe, 20:32);
    “When she threw her poo, it was with her pinky in the air. Very dignified.” (Jack, 20:21).

• AI for Early Disease Prediction (21:04–21:29):

  • Interest in stories about how AI could predict illnesses before symptoms.
  • Questions about the practicality: “Do you have to get like blood tests weekly… if it ain’t got data from your body, I don't know how it could do it.” (Joe, 22:46).

5. LA Teachers’ Union Contract & Scathing School System Critique

Main Segment: “Teachers Unions Pass Drug Dealers in Damaging Kids” (27:00–40:36)

• The LA Teachers’ Union Contract (27:46–34:43):

  • Despite declining enrollment and poor student performance, LA teachers union secured an 11.5% raise over two years and other perks.
  • LAUSD’s finances are in dire straits:

    “We still have a workforce that is larger than when the district had 40% more students than we have today.” (Superintendent, via Jack, 31:21).

  • Scathing stats: only 18% of LAUSD students are proficient in math (national average is 27%).
  • The hosts lambast the public for being misled about education budgets:

    “We're spending more than we ever have adjusted for inflation and getting less. And it keeps going that direction.” (Joe, 32:54).

  • Joe’s explosive condemnation:

    “You're evil. You are evil people. What you're doing to these kids… You are screwing the downtrodden, and you go out there and you, you, you ask for more money. You are evil people.” (Joe, 34:43).

• Systemic Problems in Education & Calls for Reform (34:52–40:24):

  • Blame extends to colleges of education and their progressive policies (postmodernism, critical theory, etc.).

  • Teachers are described as either complicit (“evil”) or “beat down.”

  • Discussion of Elon Musk’s critique of grade level by age.

    • “Why wouldn't each subject… you break it down that way as opposed to everybody in the same [class] based on age? It's nuts.” (Joe, 36:11).

  • Social implications of non-traditional grade structures (“the social embarrassment of certain kids”).

  • The cruelty of the current system:

    “You're denying those kids who are behind that aha, ‘wait, I get it’ moment… to deny them that is utterly cruel.” (Jack, 39:19).

  • Final, exasperated conclusion:

    “Tear the whole thing down. Gotta start over. It’s a disaster, absolute disaster. And the kids are the victims. How do you not get that?” (Joe, 40:24).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Media Hot Takes
  “It's like the bottom of the second inning… and it's already, ‘No, it's failure. This game's over.’” (Jack, 04:11)
• On Trump’s Jesus Meme
  “He has no idea that that iconography is Christ… He just thought it looks like a doctor healing a guy or something.” (Jack, 06:36)
• On Education
  “We still have a workforce that is larger than when the district had 40% more students than we have today.” (LAUSD Superintendent via Jack, 31:21)
• On Declining Math Proficiency
  “Nationwide, 27% of our kids are proficient in math… In LA… it’s 18%.” (Jack, 32:22)
• On Teachers’ Unions
  “You are evil people. What you're doing to these kids… you ask for more money. You are evil people.” (Joe, 34:43)
• On Grade Level by Ability vs. Age
  “Why wouldn't each subject… you break it down that way as opposed to everybody in the same based on age? It's nuts.” (Joe, 36:11)
• On System Reform
  “If you were to propose the current reality, they would put you in a mental institution. They would think, ‘Oh my God, this person's dangerously insane.’” (Jack, 38:08)

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Segment Timestamps

• Intro & Theme Setup: 03:27–04:11
• Iran War/Media Hot Takes: 04:11–06:36
• Trump, Pope, and Religious Media Coverage: 05:25–06:36
• Iran Negotiations/Europe’s Reluctance: 07:09–09:38
• Vaccine Beer: 10:24–11:47
• Springsteen Concert Anecdote: 11:50–12:55, 15:42–15:55
• Headline Recap and Rapid Fire Commentary: 16:03–23:19
• LAUSD Teachers’ Union Critique: 27:46–40:24
• Mailbag & Listener Feedback: 44:29–47:49

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Conclusion & Additional Moments

• The episode wraps with emails—some critical—about the hosts’ Trump commentary and more satirical political takes. The conversational, irreverent tone persists throughout, with the hosts unafraid to challenge sacred cows, whether in media, politics, or education.

• Memorable Offbeat Aside:

  • The much-lamented lack of regular coffee in the office, leading to the episode’s title (43:27–44:01):

    “All we have left is coconut mocha and I can't drink… Boxes and boxes of it. But no regular coffee.” (Joe)

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For Listeners

This episode is quintessential Armstrong & Getty: sharp, acerbic, and unapologetically opinionated, especially in dissecting the failures of public institutions, while refusing to paint complex issues with a simplistic brush. Their blend of humor, exasperation, and intellectual argument makes for an energizing listen (even without regular coffee).

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

within the bowels of the Armstrong and Getty Communications compound. Our straight is open and today we are toiling under the title of the show.

[Jack Armstrong]

Teachers unions pass drug dealers in damaging kids.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Just wait. That second headline, a bit mysterious, I concede. I've spent the day reading various accounts and assessments of how the war with Iran is going, and I've become acutely aware. And Jack, I'm sure you've noticed this too. Everybody must every single day predict how this ends and whether it succeeded or failed. I mean, it's like the bottom of the second inning of a baseball game and it's no, it's failure. This team's lost. This game is over. Or this game. This is a glorious win for this team. Glorious. Oh, my God.

[Joe Getty]

Just wait. Yeah. And then the grand scheme of things, we're at, what, six weeks? It's. It's a blip of history.

[Jack Armstrong]

So when was the last time you heard somebody say something like, you know, there are certainly some challenges right now, but you've got to expect that. It remains to be seen how this works out.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, well, we seem to make a living doing this. But if somebody on a cable news channel, they go around the panel and anybody ever said, you know, it's too early to tell, who knows, good signs, some bad signs, would they just send you home? I suppose they would.

[Jack Armstrong]

They would probably say Jim, thanks for your service on the panel, but we've decided to go in different direction.

[Joe Getty]

My favorite thing of the last 24 hours, we talked about this some yesterday was, is the whole Trump battle in the Pope. The atheist media, who doesn't care about religion at all and particularly hates the Pope and Catholicism, all of a sudden is so concerned about the Pope's feelings, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my Lord. A president has disrespected a Pope.

[Joe Getty]

Donald Trump says he will not apologize to the Pope. You don't, you don't like anybody who's religious. Who are you trying to kid?

[Jack Armstrong]

Going live now to Janine Smith, the only Catholic we could find in the entire parent company that owns this network, for a comment.

[Joe Getty]

Janine, all of a sudden, they're really, really weird about that. It's so phony, the Trump posting of him as Jesus healing people. Gotta admit, that's an interesting story. I mean, it is the President of the United States putting out that picture.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think it's another example of the media just completely misinterpreting it. And it's not in a way that's terribly charitable to Trump. I'm not, I'm not Trumpy on this one.

[Joe Getty]

But what do you think it, what do you think they're misinterpreting?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, that he was trying to pass himself off as a Christ figure. And I agree with us of yesterday, Trump is such an atheist, he has no idea that that iconography is Christ. He just thought, oh, it looks like a doctor healing a guy or something. He's completely unfamiliar with virtually anything to do with Christianity. He might struggle to come up with Jesus last name. Okay. That's why he put that out. It wasn't, you know, he was pressing himself off as Jesus that he didn't even know.

[Joe Getty]

That's just. Listen, on a different topic, I was just looking up at a map of the Strait of Hormuz, which there ain't a lot of ships going through because of the blockade and whatnot. I just listened to a former Secretary of defense say it is a major tenet of the world order for quite a few years that shipping lanes need to be open. Europe should be helping the United States keep this straight open, regardless of anything else. And that sounds pretty right.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would agree. And while resentment of Trump might legitimately cause them to make a strong statement or drag their feet for a little bit to make a point to just not help at all is bizarre. What it is, is they can't. They really lack the ability to project power. And so they're hiding behind their dislike of Trump and the way he went about this conflict. And, you know, it's not like they have no point.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

But again, it's a. It's a helpful excuse.

[Joe Getty]

The peace negotiations between Iran and the United States, which I was pretty skeptical that they even existed yesterday, apparently, are going on because everybody's reporting today that

[Jack Armstrong]

the.

[Joe Getty]

You don't get to enrich uranium. Iran's saying they'll agree to five years, and we're saying it's got to be 20 is the latest, but at least that's a negotiation, you know, and you come up with a number in between, and maybe we could live with that for a while.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I should have asked for this crew, and that's on me. But J.D. vance talked to Bret Baer last night on Special Report and made it clear that, yeah, we walked out of the negotiations, kind of, but it was. It was when it became clear that the delegation there didn't have the authority to come to a deal. They needed to go back to Tehran and consult with their bosses before we moved forward. So, yeah, we called it off and they went back to Tehran. Now we're gonna make more progress. And, you know, JD Is a skilled spinner, so I don't know how seriously to take that description, but it seems perfectly reasonable to me. That happens in negotiations all the time, which is why you always want to make sure you're talking to the guy who can make a deal. Otherwise you're wasting your time spending your wheels. But it's plausible.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Interesting. Would that be a win if we agreed to. I don't know, what's between 5 and 15? That would be agreed to 8. Say it's 8. Would.

[Jack Armstrong]

Would.

[Joe Getty]

Would be. We consider that a win.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, we're asking for 20, so I deserve. I demand at least 12 and a half.

[Joe Getty]

Of course, as with the JCPOA, which was the OB Obama thing, it's all about the inspections and whether or not you can have anywhere, anytime inspections, and they didn't agree to that. Under the jcpo, if you can't show up anytime you want, anywhere you want an inspect for, you know, you building a nuclear weapon, it ain't no good.

[Jack Armstrong]

You read my mind. I was about to say the agreement could be for two minutes or 700 years, and it just doesn't matter unless there's a verification regime in place.

[Joe Getty]

Right, let's. We got a lot more on that. Start the official show now. How about we do that? I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty on this it is Tuesday, April 14th. The year 2026 were Armstrong and getting me approved of this program.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh boy, here we go. Then, officially, according to FCC rules and regulations, the show starts at Mark.

[Katie Green]

I'm Chris Buck and I'm about to drink the first vaccine beer the world has ever seen.

[Joe Getty]

I made this beer in my home

[Katie Green]

lab setup and I'm hoping that eventually

[Jack Armstrong]

it will be able to protect transplant patients against a horrible virus called polyomavirus.

[Joe Getty]

And I'm just going to have the

[Katie Green]

first coif essentially to prove safety, at least in myself in an n of one self experiment.

[Joe Getty]

Delightful

[Jack Armstrong]

vaccine. Beer. Can we come up with maybe anti beerotics or beer control pills? I mean, why stop now? Beer.

[Joe Getty]

Vitamins.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. What would that be? I'll have to work on that one.

[Joe Getty]

Well, yeah. I don't understand why the vaccine needs

[Jack Armstrong]

to be in beer.

[Joe Getty]

What's the well, people don't want to get jabbed. I understand that. But if you can drink the vaccine and it work, you would usually start with just a liquid you can drink like a lot of medicine is, like

[Jack Armstrong]

a coke or water or just apple juice.

[Joe Getty]

Perhaps just any liquid you consume. So you get the vaccine and why it has to be an intoxicant, I'm not exactly sure.

[Katie Green]

Vaccine. Jamba juice.

[Joe Getty]

Exactly. Yeah, there are many options that aren't. Could get you drunk if you wanted to. I guess you got a point. It's just an odd place to start.

[Jack Armstrong]

Fine, Tinkerbell, give me one of those beers.

[Joe Getty]

The vaccine beers. I. How much sleep did I get last night? Because I was up late at the Springsteen concert, then had to drive back from San Francisco. So I went to bed at 1:30. I think I told my kids this is a real. This is a real test of your maturity. Toughen it out. Something you got to do in life. Stay up a little late, tough it out, manage on little sleep. See if you can do it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Excellent pep talk.

[Joe Getty]

We'll see how that goes. All of us in the car driving home, our ears ringing. Been a long time since I've been to a really big, loud, long rock concert. Many years. I'd forgotten that feeling of you get in your car and realize how deaf you are.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. The washing ring. Yes.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. And you can.

[Jack Armstrong]

No earplugs for you.

[Joe Getty]

I did not wear plugs. Now, I didn't expect it to be that loud. It was quite loud. My very responsible son wears earplugs.

[Jack Armstrong]

But that's the way he forgot to ask. Basketball arena, Baseball stadium, Concert hall where

[Joe Getty]

the Golden State warriors player played the Chase center and there was not an empty seat and nobody sat the entire concert.

[Jack Armstrong]

But I'll talk more about that later.

[Joe Getty]

We got headlines on the way and lots of news to get to. Stay with us.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

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Lot of hocus in the crowd at the Springsteen concert. Lot of hocus. Lot of comfortable grown up footwear on cloud.

[Jack Armstrong]

Very, very hot too. That's my brand of choices.

[Joe Getty]

Mostly hocus. Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. Okay. So much to get to. Why don't we get to it? Let's figure out who's reporting. Story with Katie Green.

[Joe Getty]

Katie?

[Katie Green]

Alrighty. Let's start with the Alphabet network. ABC, US proposes a 20 year minimum suspension on Iranian uranium enrichment. CNN, US potential second round of talks with Iran as blockade takes hold. And NBC China says Trump blockade is quote dangerous as Iran linked ships transit the Straits of Hormuz.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know why Iran wouldn't just agree to again and then cheat. That's what they've always done. I don't know. I don't, I haven't heard anybody explain that because that's what they've always done. Why all of a sudden are they saying out loud acting like their word is their bond?

[Jack Armstrong]

I wonder if Trump and Kump have made it clear that there is going to be a serious, serious inspection regime and the hijinks of the past are a no go. And if you even try it, we'll bomb the bejesus out of you again. Still, I'm sorry, I was listening to myself as I spoke. I would still do what you suggested. So. Yeah, we get it. We get it.

[Joe Getty]

Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay. And then day by day say, hey, that, that was too much. You got to push back a little bit and just work it like they always have.

[Joe Getty]

If you, you probably don't remember this, the way Iran got around the inspections with the jcpo, that oa, that was Obama's agreement with Iran. I'll have to talk about that later because I didn't remember the details. It's really quite amazing that we let Iran get away with it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's just to shorten it, call it the no Bama agreement. No. All right.

[Katie Green]

I liked it. Joe.

[Joe Getty]

Thank you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Katie Green]

From the New York Times, Vance says Pope should stay out of US affairs.

[Jack Armstrong]

Not a Pope flap.

[Joe Getty]

I. I agree with the Pope. Shut up. Just shut up. Can you say shut up to a pope or. You're probably not supposed to say that. You can. I would listen to you talk about the Bible and Jesus all day long, wrapped with attention. Mr. Pope, you start getting into foreign policy, I just have no time for you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or if you want to say, of course, you know, people who walk with Christ yearn for peace. We hope peace is restored soon. It's perfectly fine.

[Joe Getty]

In general, you prefer peace to war. I get it right

[Katie Green]

from the Wall Street Journal how an image depicting Trump as Christ sparked backlash on the religious right. He's beefing with Riley Gaines.

[Joe Getty]

Now, I was told that even people that generally support everything Trump does didn't like that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, the list of folks who spoke out in that Journal article was long and impressive. On the other hand, I don't think anybody will be talking about this in a week or tomorrow, which is, I'm sorry, I'm bad at this job. You gotta have a hot take. You gotta pretend that every single thing that happens is the most important thing that's ever happened, and you're personally outraged by it one way or the other. Flip a coin.

[Joe Getty]

This is a hell of a nutty thing to do. Oh, the Statue of Liberty and bald eagle.

[Katie Green]

From USA Today. Eric Swalwell's exit helps Democrats in California governor's race.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. That's why it happened. He's been this guy. All these things happened many years ago. Everybody knew it. It happened to get him out of the race. How does not. How does everybody not understand what's happened? What is going on here?

[Jack Armstrong]

It's so dopey. My favorite comment was from Brit Hume, who said, I'll give this to the Democrats when they need to get somebody out of the way. They are disciplined and they do it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Bernie. Hillary Biden. Yeah. Now Swalwell knife right in the back

[Katie Green]

from the New York Post. Meta is building a creepy AI clone of Mark Zuckerberg who chats with staff.

[Jack Armstrong]

The original is creepy. Creepy. Right. The real deal is creepy.

[Joe Getty]

Yes.

[Katie Green]

All right, here's a fun one from the Washington Post. World's oldest gorilla, known for her, quote, dignified manner, turns 69 when she threw her poo.

[Jack Armstrong]

It was with her pinky in the air. Very dignified.

[Joe Getty]

Here's 69.

[Katie Green]

69. Now, here's the story. Legend has it that Fato or Fatou, I don't know how they pronounce her name.

[Joe Getty]

No woman wants to be called Fato.

[Katie Green]

I know Girls on in years. I did get a better nickname.

[Jack Armstrong]

She's big boned.

[Katie Green]

Yeah, she's just fluffy. A western lowland gorilla was brought from Africa to the port of France in the late 1950s by a sailor who traded her in to settle a bar bill.

[Jack Armstrong]

Fair enough. I'd rather have the 30 bucks, but I'll take a gorilla, thanks.

[Katie Green]

Okay. Study finds AI disease prediction may catch illnesses before symptoms even start.

[Joe Getty]

I hope that's true. I don't. I don't know what claims about AI are true, but I hope that one's true. That would be so great.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hey, go ahead.

[Katie Green]

Well, they're saying that things happen before you get sick on, like a molecular level that humans can't detect. And that apparently AI is really good at seeing these things.

[Jack Armstrong]

So you got to bring that story to us in full later on. Love to hear it. Getting back to the gorilla briefly. Scientists are reporting now there is a civil war going on among chimps in Africa. There's a giant civil war foot I

[Joe Getty]

want to hear about later. I want to hear about that.

[Katie Green]

Yeah. All right. Finally, the Babylon V blasphemy. Pope Leo shares AI picture depicting himself as Donald Trump.

[Joe Getty]

Ah. Who had the headline that Alex. Eric Swalwell leaving the race changes things for the Democratic. Who had that headline?

[Katie Green]

USA Today.

[Joe Getty]

Few idiots. So you're acting like. Well, here's an interesting byproduct of Eric Swalwell's eruption. Bimbo eruption over the weekend. No. Clears away for other people. Yeah, that's what. You got it wrong, you morons.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, that was the point.

[Joe Getty]

That's why they did it. What?

[Katie Green]

Yeah, they really thought they were doing something with that headline.

[Jack Armstrong]

Death of husband may clear the way for murderous boyfriend. Yeah, yeah, that's what we were doing.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, the drive by media is the great Rush Limbaugh put it.

[Joe Getty]

So the thing with the AI picking up the diseases early, which I've heard a lot and I believe could be true, but do you have to get like blood tests weekly or something like that for it to be able to pick up on all this stuff? Because if it ain't got data from your body, I don't know how it could do it. Yeah, I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

How good are the scanning devices these days? Your aura rings and Apple's watch and I don't even know.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, so we'll get that straight. All those will. Will kind of get you the details on and a whole bunch of the news of the day. I hope you can stay here. If you missed a segment, get the Podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand Armstrong

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[Joe Getty]

more war with Iran a little bit later and try to figure out what is going on. Nobody seems to know us. Look at it. This is pretty much exactly what you said earlier. Mark Halperin's newsletter today was 1000 Monkeys Looking Through 1000 Glasses Darkly. In other words, nobody has any idea what's going on right now at all. Nobody has the any idea the involvement China has right now. There's lots swirling around there. How the blockade is going is kind of a dark spot and all kinds of other stuff. But MBS is pressuring Trump apparently to open the Straight back up to end the blockade, having pressured Trump over the weekend to not end the war. So he wants something in between, apparently.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's opening up the straight is the point of closing the Straight, but we'll talk about that in a little bit. Can't wait. And yeah, I completely agree. There are behind the scenes highest level, superpower level negotiations going on, influence and strings being pulled. So super interesting. So in the show introduction I went with one of the titles was Teachers Unions Past Drug Dealers and Damaging Kids. I realized that's a strong statement and certainly not addressed to individual teachers who I treasure, including friends and family. The LA schools, which are an absolute disaster. Big news from them as the Journal editorial board leads their coverage. When government rewards failure, the result is usually more failure. That's been the story in Los Angeles where the teachers union on Sunday secured a rich new contract. Notwithstanding lousy student performance and declining enrollment, it's so bad some of these numbers,

[Joe Getty]

we have lost control of this thing that is public education that we apparently forgot we're in charge of. It's a, it's, it's a public school. We get to vote on all this. We're supposed to be in charge. And somehow they decided they're in charge.

[Jack Armstrong]

Government schools are a giant slush fund slash political jobs program. To wit, LA Unified School District's new collective bargaining agreement with the United Teachers Los Angeles union increases salary scales by 11 and a half plus percent over two years, double the rate of inflation. Plus four weeks of paid parental leave, expanded student support services that will invariably require more hiring. Pay for new teachers will jump nearly 12% to $77,000 a year. Very expensive to live in the LA area. I'm not judging that will hold off on our judgments. At least I will from the moment the agreement comes. After the district warned two months ago that a looming $877 million deficit could require thousands of layoffs. That was before the raises, said the superintendent. At some point we reach a breaking point. Increasing costs for retirement benefits. A post pandemic hiring binge and declining student enrollments are squeezing the district's finances. State spending per pupil has soared in recent years to $27,500 a year per student. Meaning if you just had a teacher and the students granted, you know, you'd have to drag your own chair to school or whatever. Imagine the scenario. Maybe we want more than that. But if it was just a teacher and a student, that 27 grand a year per person, you'd only need really like three students, maybe four. And you could have a great class with a highly paid teacher anyway. But it hasn't benefited as much as other districts because its enrollment has shrunk by nearly a quarter since 2019. By nearly a quarter. Families moved away during the pandemic when schools were closed at the behest of the unions. And the flight is continued owing to LA's crappy schools, high cost of living, taxes and crime. Here's my favorite stat. The federal pandemic largesse helped paper over the district's budget problems for time and supercharged hiring. Here's the superintendent again, and I quote, we still have a workforce that is larger than when the district had 40% more students than we have today.

[Joe Getty]

Whoa, it's shrunk that much.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'll give you a moment. They have more employees than when they had 40% more students.

[Joe Getty]

And I'm guessing the results were also better in terms of kids that could

[Jack Armstrong]

read and Write yeah. Oh yeah. Much better. Yeah. Meantime, the district and state are required to make payments equal to 30% of teachers salaries for the pensions. Teachers can retire at age 63 with a pension worth 85% of their final pay plus free health benefits for life.

[Joe Getty]

We should. It's so clever of them to have pretended because this is what it feels like as a kid. You go to school, there are teachers. Maybe you think about the principal, that's it. And they convinced us that. That all discussions about money for schools is about teachers leaving out the fact that there are gazillions of people doing other stuff who the knows what the hell it is that suck up all that money.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then many, many union employees and the rest of it. All right, final numbers. The National Assessment of educational progress. Nationwide, 27% of our kids are proficient in math. That's a miserable failure. But it's way better than La Jack, where the number is 18%.

[Joe Getty]

18% proficiency. It's such a simple sentence. I can't believe that this isn't got more power behind it in terms of running for office or whatever. We're spending more than we ever have adjusted for inflation and getting less.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, the end worst results. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And it keeps going that direction. The trend line is further. More money, less results. More money, less results. Don't give me your teachers need more money. I wish I could use the word because it is complete full S. Yeah,

[Jack Armstrong]

I know, I know.

[Joe Getty]

And it works on people. Well, teachers, they try so hard. They do. We're not talking about the teachers. We're talking about layers and layers of middle management that who knows what the hell they do other than use money.

[Jack Armstrong]

Final note on the test scores, 18% proficient math in LA. I tip my imaginary cap to the the Journal editorial board. Their final line of the editorial is. Then again, the district's catawampus finances suggest its leaders are no better at math. No kidding.

[Joe Getty]

And I would also add that's so disappointing and depressing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, I know it's. Well, it should make people angry. Which is not, you know, what we intend to do, you know, sorry. Thanks for listening.

[Joe Getty]

And the teachers unions who get, I don't know, I've said this for years now. I honest to God don't know how they sleep at night. How have you convinced yourself that you're doing something good for the world or that you're even? Break even. I mean, you're evil. You are evil people. What you're doing to these kids. And you get out there and you make these claims about specifically you know, the downtrodden, the black and brown kids who come from poor income families, they're the ones getting screwed the most. The people you claim you care the most about are the ones that absolutely are getting screwed. Cuz families that have more resources have figured out that the school doesn't teach them anything and has had to, you know, go with some sort, either private school or hiring tutors or whatever, bypass your piece of crap to get their kid educated. You're screwing the downtrodden and you go out there and you, you, you, you ask for more money. You are evil people.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, see, and I'm gonna say the same thing I always say when we have this discussion. Yes, you haven't known enough evil people in your life.

[Joe Getty]

That's precisely correct. They're evil.

[Jack Armstrong]

They sleep at night like babies. They're fine, they're great. They get up with a smile on their face. They're evil. Evil exists in the world. Second thing is, we haven't even gotten to the awful, awful stew of progressive policies that have hollowed out the classrooms and rendered the kids unteachable. Which comes straight from not only the teachers unions but the colleges of education that have been at the forefront of critical theory and postmodernism. The neo Marxism I'm always talking about. I mean they're absolutely the leaders in this stuff. And so you combine those two things and I'm telling you. Well, you were, Jack. It was when you were out with your boys visiting family.

[Joe Getty]

All the best things happen when I'm gone.

[Jack Armstrong]

Absolutely. We save it for when you're gone. There's a lot of. Actually, I have it right here. I could forward it to you, Jack, if you were on a. Read it. We got, got. We got a number of great emails from teachers after our discussion of this last week, including one absolute two and a half page blockbuster. And the one teacher great email said I think it can still be saved. Maybe I disagree because the good people are so beaten down they don't dare speak out anymore.

[Joe Getty]

You'd have to start over. You know, Elon, this is a different topic, but Elon had an interesting post the other day about how did we ever decide that everybody at the same age should be in a grade and learn the same stuff? Who decided that? And why do we stick with it as opposed to everybody matures at a different rate, everybody's at a different place on different subjects. Why wouldn't each subject like, like in the, the, the math school, I might have been level, you know, don't make a grade or Attach age to it, I might been level 16, but on the, the other stuff, something else like a language. I never had to take a foreign language, but if I had, I'd have been awful at it. Um, on that one I'm at like a four. So I'm in with the people that are the fours. And in the math, I'm in this one. And why don't you break it down that way as opposed to everybody in the same based on age. It's nuts. It really is if you think about it.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I'm hearing a couple of objections. Burble up and I mean, for instance, the social problem. You're an eighth grader essentially, or the equivalent and you're in a class on

[Joe Getty]

how far apart you are.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sure. And, or, but again, give me, let's see, five seconds to think about it. Number one, to avoid the social embarrassment of certain kids, you could have catch up programs specifically for older kids who need to catch up to preserve their dignity. No problem. Secondly, maybe the first day of every single school year, you re explain to all the kids the teaching philosophy that, look, we want to meet you where you are and help you learn as fast as you can according your interest and your abilities.

[Joe Getty]

No problem. Yeah, you present it that way. I think culturally we don't get used to it. That's fine.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Compared to the status quo.

[Joe Getty]

Right. As Elon said, you got people in classes. And I know this is true. It was true when I was a kid. It's true in my kids classes. You got people that are so advanced in whichever class you're in, they're bored to death. And then you got the kids that are so far behind, they're just sitting there staring at the wall because they're, they're so far behind they don't even know what you're talking about.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. What is the point? Right. That is so smart. I'm reminded of our oft times discussion of the US tax code. People present like reforms or changes or something. Everybody's like, oh no, that might have a downside. I've heard that has a downside. It's just like the current education system. If you were to propose the current reality, they would put you in a mental institution. They would think, oh my God, this person's dangerously insane. To present like our current tax system is a good one or our current education system. And yet people act like any sort of change is a threat. I throw up my hands. I'll be on the golf course if you need me.

[Joe Getty]

And to the social stigma of you know, being held back or whatever. How is that better or wor, depending on how you look at it, better or worse? How is that something we should be more concerned about than you get out of school and don't have the ability to succeed in life? Oh yeah, you want to talk about social stigma. You're now 18 years old and you can't read or do anything else and

[Jack Armstrong]

you're supposed to find a job.

[Joe Getty]

I think that's going to be way more painful than if you had to redo fourth grade.

[Jack Armstrong]

And you know, my final argument. And you know, I was always. I've always. I still love learning and I still. Well, I love learning. I'm curious about everything. But you're denying those kids who are behind that aha, wait, I get it. Moment. Even if it comes a year or two behind the kids who are exceptionally good at it, to deny them that is utterly cruel. To protect your union, your job and your pay. I just despise it. I hate you. That's hate speech.

[Joe Getty]

Is there anybody in the teachers unions who's not evil? Do they fight like, is it like a split? Are they fighting the fighting the other people in the teachers union or do they get run out?

[Jack Armstrong]

I think you have the evil and the beat down. Those are the two constituencies.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. I knew a guy who was in charge of, he was high up in the teachers union in a different state. He was always talking about public education. I'm a big public education guy. Never got into the argument with him. I wish I would have just, you know, hopefully an eight. I. I don't know if it could stay friendly. I have such a strong opinion on this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Tear the whole thing down. Gotta start over.

[Joe Getty]

It's a disaster, absolute disaster. And the kids are the victims. How do you not get that? All right, we got Mailbag, they're evil. Mailbag is next.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Joe Getty]

More Broadcasters I'm going to narrow cast briefly. This is to Jensen's parents I know you listen every single day. Jensen's dad, tell your daughter put pressure on her to get regular flavored coffee because she's only by. All we have left is coconut mocha and I can't drink.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, wow.

[Katie Green]

You're taking this to her parents over the air?

[Joe Getty]

I'm taking it to her dad.

[Jack Armstrong]

Come on. Not. Not just one flavor, coconut mocha.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, it's awful. And that's all we got. Boxes and boxes of it. But no regular coffee. And she orders supplies.

[Jack Armstrong]

Good Lord. Here are your freedom loving quotes of the day on the topic of war.

[Joe Getty]

You feel like that was out of line going over her head to her dad? Okay, well, I'll have to think about that later.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, this from George S. Patton. A pint of sweat saves a gallon of blood.

[Joe Getty]

That's pretty good.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then this from George Washington. Perhaps you've heard of him, the late, great George Washington. My first wish is to see this plague of mankind war banished from the earth.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

If only, George. If only. Mailbag, drop us a Note [e-mail] Sergio writes. Dear Sirs, I'm writing to express my disappointment regarding the recent segment of your program. I've been a listener for a while and have always respected your perspective, but your recent commentary regarding Trump's post where he looks like a biblical figure has changed my opinion of your show. To me, it sounded like excuses were being made, similar to the rhetoric I hear from the other side of the political spectrum. I'm truly saddened by the shift in tone inconsistent with the quality.

[Joe Getty]

Blah, blah, blah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sergio, my excuse was he's an atheist who pretends to be a Christian and knows nothing about it. If that strikes you as too soft, I'm sorry.

[Joe Getty]

Well, that's interesting. Is this. I wonder if this was the same person or different person. We got this text 21 year plus listener. This sucks. This past year has been like finding out my two cool gay dads are now a holes and are in love with the same man. Trump.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wait, on what?

[Joe Getty]

On what topic?

[Jack Armstrong]

Look, yeah, there's no. There's absolutely no pleasing everybody.

[Joe Getty]

Apparently not. But I would like to know on what topic after 21 years. We were too pro Trump yesterday. On what topic? Yeah, I don't think we could have been more dismissive of the Jesus thing he put out.

[Jack Armstrong]

I said it was horrifying and blasphemous. Do me a favor, Ghost. Write me what I should have said. If horrifying, blasphemous, and an atheist pretending to respect Christianity isn't strong enough for you? Shall I haul myself up on the cross for you, Sergio? I don't know what you're looking for. 4. Oh Lord. And then this meme. And there are plenty of them. Here's a Halloween costume. A bearded man in the white in the red sash and the rest of it. And it's labeled Dr. When it's clearly a Jesus costume. Oh boy. Yeah, that's some good stuff. Moving along to a different topic, specifically Scumbag Swalwell, Ricky writes, Good morning gents. I thought this might be a good headline for the Babylon Be Democrats Find Their Moral Compass. His course heading brings them dangerously close to a Republican victory in California governor's race. Yeah, exactly right. Please. He could have raped a woman in his congressional office with the door open. They wouldn't have said anything except now he's kind of interfering with their chosen union lackey getting elected. So all of a sudden they find their moral outrage. It's hilarious.

[Joe Getty]

I should lay out my theory on Trump running as a Republican.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

Never have fully laid it out. I've believed it since day one. I've never said it because.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh really?

[Joe Getty]

No. Not out loud on the air.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh man, we're running out of time. Got a lot of a lot of great stuff. But similar note kind of drew the Millennial writes there are likely many people in your audience who once defended Matt Gaetz but hated Eric Swalwell and vice versa. Why would any of these people be willing to explain the difference between these two guys? It can't be done. They're the exact same person. So why would you like the one but hate the other?

[Joe Getty]

To be fair, I maybe I just haven't heard it yet. I don't know if I've heard anything that is even close to Matt Gaetz level that Eric Swalwell did. He drank with a bunch of chicks who weren't his wife who got really drunk and had sex with him and now regret it. But is there more that I haven't heard yet?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, stay tuned. Okay. Armstrong and Getty

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[Jack Armstrong]

It says I appreciate you.

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