Am I Already In Hell?

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: "Am I Already In Hell?"

Date: April 24, 2026

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Overview

This Armstrong & Getty episode dives into wide-ranging cultural, political, and tech topics, blending their signature wit with sharp social commentary. Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, and newswoman Katie Greener discuss everything from the spectacle of the NFL Draft, to open political gripes about homelessness and the Southern Poverty Law Center, to fresh anxieties around AI-powered scams. The episode also touches on online culture, food rumors, and the experience of being a public figure—especially when it comes to taking criticism (or weird compliments) from listeners.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Spectacle of the NFL Draft & People’s Passions

Timestamps: 02:31–05:22

• Joe Getty marvels at the NFL Draft’s status as massive entertainment, admitting he’s amazed at how much attention it garners, though he doesn’t personally follow it:

  "It's, I don't know…find it astounding that it is at the level of entertainment and attention that it gets." (02:56)

• Jack Armstrong suggests everyone’s obsessions seem weird to others, unless you share them:

  “Everyone’s passions seem weird to everyone else. Unless they share them.” (03:14)

• The hosts apply this “passions” concept broadly—sports, fishing, music, and even parenting—illustrating how arbitrary and personal our fascinations truly are.

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2. Political Topics: Homelessness & Policy Frustrations

Timestamps: 05:47–09:45

• Clips highlight the California gubernatorial debate, where starkly different grades are given to Governor Gavin Newsom’s handling of homelessness:

  "Again, if this is an A, what the hell would a C look like? Would homeless people be apocalypse living in my home being eaten by zombies?" – Jack Armstrong (08:26)

• Joe Getty and Jack Armstrong compare cleanliness in New York City to Sacramento and discuss how policy, not fate, shapes outcomes:

  "Policy is what does it." – Jack Armstrong (09:16)

• Frustration with public apathy or misunderstanding is evident:

  "Some days I'm just like, alright, you know what? You people, you're gonna get what you deserve. Go to hell. I was so discouraged by the idiocy of the American public sometimes." – Jack Armstrong (09:16)

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3. Exposing Nonprofits: The Southern Poverty Law Center Critique

Timestamps: 09:48–15:03

• Detailed takedown of the SPLC, alleging financial self-interest, paying to hype divisive rallies, and exaggerating threats to drive donations:

  “They are essentially paying to keep racism alive because that's how they earn money.” – Jack Armstrong (09:48) "The SPLC's massive endowment...controlled more than $800 million in assets." (13:21)

• Criticism extends to wealthy donors being misled and the SPLC's broadening definition of “hate groups”:

  “The SPLC has been fraudulent, obviously fraudulent in my mind for decades.” – Joe Getty (11:31)

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4. Social Media, Rumors & Food

Timestamps: 17:53–19:03

• Viral rumor discussed: Chipotle's supposed $59/month burrito subscription. The hosts fact-check, joke about its impact on health and the economy, and dismiss it as false:

  “If you’re going to eat a burrito at Chipotle every single day, I’ll chip into the gofundme for your tombstone.” – Joe Getty (18:41)

• Touches on public willingness to jump on viral stories and how they can sound good until logical scrutiny is applied.

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5. Personal Honesty: Weight, Eating Habits, & Self-Deception

Timestamps: 19:16–19:59

• Joe Getty shares candidly about cycles of unhealthy eating, personal discipline, and the illusion of “cheating” the consequences:

  “It’s just amazing to me that I will convince myself that I can like sneak one by my body or God or something.” (19:43)
  “And then of course, it always shows up on the scale.” – Jack Armstrong (19:56)

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6. AI Catfishing and Scams

Timestamps: 21:41–34:57

A. AI Catfishing for Profit

• Jack and Joe dissect the story of “Emily Hart”—a viral AI-generated gun-toting “MAGA queen,” actually the creation of a 22-year-old Indian med student using demographic targeting and AI to bilk money from U.S. conservatives:

  “He leveraged demographic data from Google's Gemini AI about what would appeal to a male crowd that supported Donald Trump.” – Jack Armstrong (26:42)

• The fake persona sold merchandise, garnered fan donations, and operated on “Fanview”, an OnlyFans rival that allows AI content:

  “He says, I was spending maybe 30 to 50 minutes of my day making good money for a medical student in India… I have never seen an easier way to make money online.” – Jack Armstrong (29:11)

• They discuss the appeal of tribal content, both on the left and right, and how social media amplifies signaling over substance.

B. AI-Driven Scams: Chilling Advances

• A tech writer’s encounter with an AI-crafted phishing attempt is recounted—targeted, plausible, and deeply personalized using his public work as fodder:

  “The attack was entirely crafted and executed by the open source model DeepSeek v3.” (32:10)

• The hosts sound the alarm over how AI could power ever more convincing, automated scams:

  “The sophistication of the hacks is getting mind blowingly good…Just crazy sophisticated.” – Jack Armstrong (33:07)

• Discussion about looming worries—cyberattacks, inflation, and the fragility of wealth tied up in “zeros and ones”.

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7. Life in the (Very) Public Eye

Timestamps: 37:55–43:10

• Katie Greener shares reactions to her maternity photos on Instagram—ranging from supportive to “holy crap, you are huge!” and even body-centric comments:

  “Are you hiding a second baby in your boobs?” (40:26)

• The team muse on public criticism, the lack of empathy people show to public figures, and how the internet encourages casual cruelty that most wouldn’t say face-to-face:

  “People don't see you as a real human being…you're like a character on TV.” – Joe Getty (38:00)

• They agree it’s easy to focus on negative feedback, despite the abundance of supportive messages.

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8. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Society and Passions

• "Everyone else's passions seem weird if they're not yours." – Joe Getty (04:18)

On The SPLC

• "I thought George Clooney was smarter than that because the SPLC has been fraudulent, obviously fraudulent in my mind for decades." – Joe Getty (11:31)
• “A highly profitable scam that's ripping off donors without a doubt.” – Jack Armstrong (14:49, quoting former SPLC official)

On AI Scams

• “God, we're doomed. Doomed.” – Jack Armstrong (33:23)

On Public Feedback

• "Sometimes when people say incredibly cruel things...realize you don't see me as a real human being here." – Joe Getty (38:19)
• “Congratulations to you—not just for the baby, but the size of your rack.” – Listener comment read by Katie Greener (40:49)
• “I have come through the being mad or offended a long time ago. And those people, I just pity them. Honestly, I think, wow, you are really unhappy. I hope you find some joy." – Jack Armstrong (41:50)

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9. Final Thoughts

Timestamps: 43:14–44:39

• The hosts share final thoughts: shout-outs to family, humor about fast food, Katie’s reflection on negative online comments, and a note about upcoming show merch.
• Jack brings levity:

  "As soon as those Guatemalan children get to sewing those shirts together, we’ll get them out there for you. Hurry up Armstrong and Getty!” (44:39)

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Segment Timestamps (Highlights)

| Segment | Start | |----------------------------------------------|---------| | NFL Draft/Sports Passions | 02:31 | | Homelessness Debate & California Policy | 05:47 | | SPLC Critique & Nonprofit Grifting | 09:48 | | Viral Rumors & Chipotle | 17:53 | | Eating Habits, Self-Deception | 19:16 | | Trump vs. Powell, Admin News | 20:00 | | AI Catfishing and Online Grifting | 21:41 | | AI Scams: Personalized Phishing | 32:10 | | Public Life and Social Media Comments | 37:55 | | Closing/Final Thoughts | 43:14 |

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Conclusion

This episode showcases Armstrong & Getty's range: sincere, funny, biting, and insightful on topics from pop culture oddities to society’s more sobering shortcomings—including the rise of AI cons and the scar tissue public figures gather online. The conversation is punctuated by memorable lines, self-deprecating humor, and honest discussion of American weirdness, making it a must-listen (or read) for fans who appreciate both substance and irreverence.

Transcript

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Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Gy. We were just talking about our local NFL Team USA and what they did in the NFL draft yesterday. It's amazing what a giant event that has become. And you know, good for you if you can kill a few hours of your life. Happy following that? You're probably happier than I am not following it, but it just, it's, it's, I don't know, find it astounding that it is at the level of entertainment and attention that it gets.

[Jack Armstrong]

Everyone's passions seem weird to everyone else.

[Joe Getty]

True.

[Jack Armstrong]

Unless they share Them.

[Joe Getty]

That's a pretty good truism.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

No matter what it is. Including having children.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm a 49ers fan to the point of sometimes I think I'm wasting the precious hours God has given me, but a quick summary is fine.

[Katie Greener]

Well.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, he's a wide receiver who did this for Memphis State. Oh, cool.

[Joe Getty]

Well, my problem with it, as I've mentioned many, many times, is when I was a super hardcore sports fan, it became clear to me that there's not that much relationship between what you hope is going to happen and what actually happens. So I just tend not to get that excited about those things.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I think hardcore sports fans understand that, but they like the excitement of it nonetheless. Oh, well, apparently the thrill of buying a lottery ticket, it's not a big thrill, but it's kind of a thrill. Gotcha. Yeah, a lot of stuff to squeeze in this hour. In fact, I'm getting stressed out trying to figure out how to cram it all in. We won't. But anyway.

[Joe Getty]

That's a fascinating thought. You just gave us the whole.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm here all week.

[Joe Getty]

Everyone else's passions seem weird if they're not yours.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

No matter what. And now you could come up with a hundred examples, including, like I said, having kids, but fishing dogs, your kind of music, watching sports literature for me, whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or watching this sport and not that sport.

[Joe Getty]

Right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, to each their own. That's what I say. Except you pieces of crap who are trying to pitch Marxism and thievery and the rest of it. I was reading more about that utterly, incomprehensibly evil Hasan Piker and the lefties who embrace him these days. And that's quickly becoming the mainstream of the Democratic Party. He's worse than I thought.

[Joe Getty]

Worse than I thought.

[Jack Armstrong]

He's seriously calling for the murder of property owners and people who participate in the free market being embraced by the New York Times.

[Joe Getty]

I've missed this guy somehow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, he's. He's more a symptom than. Than anything else. But more on that to come. Let's. Let's do something at least slightly amusing and cheery. It's time to fake. Time to take a fond look back at the week that was. It's Cal Clips of the Week.

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[Joe Getty]

No, we don't need it. Why do I need it? A nuclear weapon should never be allowed to be used by anybody.

[Jack Armstrong]

US for seized an Iranian flagged cargo ship.

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A member of Iran's parliament taunting an eye for an eye, a tanker for a tanker.

[Katie Greener]

The real endless war is the war that Iran has waged on us for 47 years.

[Joe Getty]

What grade does he get on homelessness? On effort?

[Jack Armstrong]

I would give him an A. I'm

[Joe Getty]

a notoriously tough grader, but I would probably give him a B on homelessness. Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

By the way, I'd love to be in your class, Katie, if you get a B for what Gavin Newsom's done on homelessness, my goodness, you won't give us a grade?

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[Joe Getty]

No, I haven't followed it closely enough to give him a grade.

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[Jack Armstrong]

There are new questions tonight and few answers into 11 missing or dead scientists

[Joe Getty]

vanished or killed over the past three years on Cape Cod, Massachusetts, a second chance for one lobster. A rare split colored lobster. Saved. Saved from the lobster roll. All through the town. Is that it? Anyone else? I hear you. Starving. Can you please find me food? Starving, but

[Jack Armstrong]

it's clips of the week.

[Joe Getty]

Can you please find me food? It's a very generic question. Couple of things from clips of the week that stood out to me. One, we had some clips there of the gubernatorial debate in California which Steve Hilton was re referring, replying, couldn't come up with a word. Katie Porter at one point she said during the debate I was a college professor and he said of course you were. Which I thought was really good. But the whole giving a grade on Gavin Newsom's handling of the homeless situation in which the two Republicans went with Fs and the Democrats went with Bs and As. Again, if this is an A, what the hell would a C look like?

[Jack Armstrong]

Would homeless people be apocalypse living in my home being eaten by zombies?

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, we got this text about California, particularly this, the capital of California, Sacramento. I was in New York City last week. It was a hundred times cleaner than Sacramento. I've had this experience multiple times in the last couple of years. I saw a total of three people sleeping on the street in New York and I saw NYPD all over the streets walking a beat. It was wonderful. That's been my experience, which the point being because New York wasn't that way, like early 90s. First time I ever went to New York City wasn't that way at all. Policy matters. Why is it such a difficult concept for so many people to believe? People act like it's the weather. You know, just, we're going through a couple of cold years or more rain this year, more homeless people this year. Policy is what does it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know there are some days I'm so enthused to lead the charge and shout and yell and sing about that. And some days I'm just like, all right, you know what? You people, you're gonna get what you deserve. Go to hell. I was so discouraged by the idiocy of the American public sometimes.

[Joe Getty]

Well, San Francisco's much better now, but, like, if you leave LA or Sacramento and you go to New York, it's shocking. You look around, I don't see us. As far as I can see each direction. I don't see a single street person

[Jack Armstrong]

that I give Kevin Newsom an A.

[Joe Getty]

That never happens in Sacramento.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. So one of the stories I wanted to comment on that I was reminded of during the clips of the week is the PLC Southern Poverty Law center story about how they are essentially paying to keep racism alive because that's how they earn money. And one of the aspects of it was that they were paying a couple of the key people organizing the idiotic Unite the Right thing. Unite the Right in Charlottesville a number of years ago. They were, like, paying the guy who would bus people to the rally to make sure there was a good turnout. And they paid $270,000. Excuse me. To a Unite the Right rally leader. $270,000. Unbelievably wise investment. October 2016, the year before the rally, they got about $52 million in revenue.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that's a lot of money.

[Jack Armstrong]

Million.

[Joe Getty]

That's a successful business right there. Right after the rally, which they advertise. They paid to advertise.

[Jack Armstrong]

They sponsored it.

[Joe Getty]

They had a guy going around picking people up to make sure there was a good crowd.

[Jack Armstrong]

So right after the rally, not 52 million, 133 million. That's a very successful business, including, notably, a million dollars from George and Amal Clooney, all sorts of giant donations to the splc when they successfully pulled off their Unite the Right rally. Does that overstate their involvement in it? Yes, but not completely.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I thought George Clooney was smarter than that because the SPLC has been fraudulent, obviously fraudulent in my mind for decades. You gave him seven figures worth of money, Chris. It might have been his wife. And he just said, whatever, it'll shut her up.

[Jack Armstrong]

Look, George is a very bright guy, clearly. But if you exist in a, in an ideological bubble where you are never exposed to criticism of the splc, you're not aware of it. That's, you know, and some days, again, I'm in a mood that I think, wow. The key here is to help the people of the left understand, like I said earlier today, we are not who you think we are. We don't believe what you think we believe. We're not advocating what you think we're advocating. You've gotten a completely distorted view. And there are some days I just want to punch him in the head. But yeah, Clooney has no idea what the SPLC really is. I believe that anyway. From 52 million to 133 million after. It's an. I'll do the math for you. It's about an $82 million increase thanks to their sponsorship of the Unite the Right rally.

[Joe Getty]

So that they could have represent. I should go back and dig it up. Representatives from that organization on cnn. I guarantee you that afternoon, the next morning. Well, Jim, white supremacy is on the rise all across this nation and it's blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Having spent hundreds of thousands of dollars

[Joe Getty]

to promote the event.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, I would love to hear that. So just a little more on them. We got a minute. The SPLC was able to afford such payments. They mentioned the payments to the various right wing groups thanks in part to its offshore assets which skyrocketed over the last decade, growing from $44 million in non US equity holdings in its fiscal year ending in 2013 to a staggering $233 million in its fiscal year end October 20th of October 21st, a 430% increase. Since then, their non US equities blah blah blah. They have some more statistics. The SPLC's massive endowment. The group controlled more than $800 million in assets at the end of 2024. It relies heavily on foreign investments. The group's non US equity holdings exceed its domestic holdings every year since 2016. Those holdings appear to be concentrated in the Caribbean. The SPLC reported owning accounts in the Cayman Islands and disclosed making a com $57 million in investments in Central America and the Caribbean and its two most recent tax filings. Though it was founded in 1971 as a civil rights law firm seeking damages for KKK victims. A noble cause indeed. Its scope expanded over the years to include issues like immigration enforcement, gender ideology. And Every year since 1990, the SPLC has published a hate map that is meant to identify groups that attack or malign an entire class of people, but often include run of the conservative organizations like parental rights groups, Moms for Liberty and Parents Defending Education.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, they exaggerate and distort all kinds of statistics that, like I said, go on cable news channels and talk about the threat of racism and white supremacy in America and raise money off of it.

[Jack Armstrong]

They quote one former official who worked for the SPLC who described the group in 2019 as a highly profitable scam that's ripping off donors without a doubt. Yeah. Yep.

[Joe Getty]

So Trump did something I don't like. Or the Trump administration did. Breaking news story. Oh, and other stuff on the way. Stay here. Armstrong and Getty it's not exactly the

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[Michael]

If Chipotle comes out with that 59 per month subscription for burritos, I assume it's one per day. That actually might reset the economy. Think about it. The average person spends about 2 to $300 on groceries. If you can spend $59 and get one burrito per day, the average person, it probably takes them maybe like two meals to eat a burrito and then maybe you get some E for breakfast. They're gonna save a lot of people's pockets with this one.

[Joe Getty]

That's somebody doing a lot of math around an Internet rumor that isn't true that Chipotle's was Gonna have a 59 subscription where you could get a burrito a day if you wanted to. Which their burritos are the size of Katie's baby's going to be. And you could definitely get several meals out of it. By the way, if you're going to eat a burrito at Chipotle every single day, I'll chip into the gofundme for your tombstone. Good lord.

[Jack Armstrong]

Come on now. You can order a fairly healthy stuff.

[Joe Getty]

True. I suppose you could. You don't have to order the burrito I order at Chipotle every time you get a burrito.

[Jack Armstrong]

Come on.

[Joe Getty]

But. And that turns out not to be true. Michael. There's no 59. Yeah, okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Katie Greener]

Disappointed.

[Joe Getty]

But yeah. Speaking of.

[Jack Armstrong]

Could reset the entire economy. Okay. My aunt, if she had balls, I think you know the rest.

[Joe Getty]

Speaking of eating, I did this. I can't believe I still do this. So I had a couple of weeks of really poor eating choices. Like I had one week where I practically decided there are no rules and gained several pounds. And then this week got back on the horse of discipline and have lost several pounds. And it's just amazing to me that I will convince myself that I can like sneak one by my body or God or something.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't even know what that.

[Joe Getty]

But I actually feel like nobody will notice that I eat this much or this or whatever. And. And then of course, it always shows up on the scale.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean, it's late at night, there's nobody home.

[Joe Getty]

What is that?

[Jack Armstrong]

I know, it's silly.

[Joe Getty]

It's silly. Anywho, here's the breaking news story. I'm not happy about this from the Trump administration. Department of justice drops criminal probe into Fed chair Jerome Powell. It had been threatened for quite some time. Trump had been talking about Jerome Powell, redecorated his office or something like that, and how it was a crime. Well, now he somehow got the attorney general, apparently Department of Justice, to go along with an actual criminal probe.

[Jack Armstrong]

Officially, I think they dropped it. As if. They stopped it.

[Joe Getty]

They stopped it. Okay. I was looking at the headline. Oh, well, that's good news. That's good news. And it was horrible that it happened in the first place.

[Jack Armstrong]

Save your outrage for another day, my lad.

[Joe Getty]

Well, it was still horrible that it happened in the first place, but I'm glad that they've dropped it.

[Jack Armstrong]

It was just dopey.

[Joe Getty]

No, he hates Jerome Powell because he won't lower the interest rates. And so he was threatening with claiming he committed a crime.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, between the interest rate thing, Trump just desperate for the rates to be lower and then the tariff deal. Does Trump just not understand what inflation is and how it works? It got him elected.

[Joe Getty]

I think he understands that, especially I don't know about the tariff thing. He's got this weird formula that's complicated and he believes in and practically nobody else. But on the, on the interest rate, I think he just, he just wants things to be good. Right. Right now if it's, if it's bad for next year, he will worry about that then. He's a right now market guy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Just always is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

What will, what will make the market go up today?

[Jack Armstrong]

Coming up, one of the greatest, most successful catfishing schemes in history. Some of you might have fallen for it.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, boy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Plus, what was the other thing? Oh, five. Here's an article I came across. Five AI models tried to scam me. Some of them were scary good folks. We've got to up our defense because the scammers are getting so good.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, I'm glad to hear about this. I will. Stay tuned.

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What changed?

[Joe Getty]

Let's go with Providence, prayer and a miracle drug. In mid December, I was given a three to four month life expectancy. I am on extended time already. I have pancreatic origin cancer that is metastasized a number of places. So I've got lung, vascular liver. Other liver is pretty far along.

[Caller or Guest (Frank)]

You have five cancers?

[Joe Getty]

Yes sir. That's former Senator Ben Sasse, who announced he was dying late last year and was expected to be dead already on 60 minutes of Sunday Night. I really look forward to it. I got to admit, I'm not. I don't want to spend my final days in an incredibly slow conversation with Scott Pelly, but I'm looking forward to hearing it myself.

[Jack Armstrong]

I might think, am I already in hell? But yes, I love Band Sass and I'm really looking forward to hearing. I need to check out. He's been doing the podcast lately.

[Joe Getty]

I've heard him on a couple of different podcasts. Really interesting stuff. I mean, he's an incredibly brilliant guy at the end of his life. And I mean, what's more Fascinating than that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. A little clarity. Yeah, too much clarity. All these guys could have used a little more clarity. As it turns out, Jack, I've actually had friends bring this up in real life. Perhaps you've seen this story. The MAGA gun toting bikini queen who has been getting a lot of attention online and a lot of GoFundMe ish contributions as well, is not a 22 year old. I'm sorry, it's not a hot patriotic gun toten Coors Light drinking sex pot. It's a 22 year old male medical student from India. The aspiring orthopedic surgeon invented this blonde bombshell MAGA sex pot as an AI generated gold mine to help fund his way through medical school. And ironically, he hoped to finance his eventual move to the United States. He used he. And I tell you what, this kid deserves it. He'd be the perfect immigrant. He leveraged demographic data from Google's Gemini AI about what would appeal to a male crowd that supported Donald Trump. The MAGA crowd. And he got a bunch of suggestions. Older conservative. Well, some of the AI suggestions included the fact that older conservative men in the US possess significant disposable income, high levels of group loyalty. He marketed the sexpot as a registered nurse because the AI said that's a profession that gets even more sympathy and admiration for a woman. Especially a sexy woman. One picture displayed his. His creation was named. What was her name? Something Heart.

[Joe Getty]

I thought she had dark hair. I was watching the videos the other day. Unless I saw a different one.

[Jack Armstrong]

Emily Hart. Yeah, either that or she dyed her hair. Jack, she's AI she can do whatever she wants with her appearance. But anyway, so Ms. Hart. Da da da. One picture displayed Hart firing a rifle. The caption read, if you want a reason to unfollow Christ is king, abortion is murder and all illegals must be deported.

[Joe Getty]

I so I, I. The one, the couple that I saw looked obviously AI to me. But that, you know, that doesn't mean it wouldn't be obviously AI to everyone.

[Jack Armstrong]

It was really good AI.

[Joe Getty]

I mean, it's shockingly good AI but it's still, you know how AI has just got that too perfect look to it still, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, some of this is a little perfect. But here she is sitting on her porch looking all sexy in her jeans and her make America great again hat and her, her boots. The kind of. And the porch has that rough hewn look to it. It's just also perfect unpopular opinion. People who don't respect America should be kicked out of our great Nation drop an American flag if you agree.

[Joe Getty]

That sort of stuff repulses me. But who was sending. What was the appeal for money?

[Jack Armstrong]

You're a mind reader. Here it is. The. The AI creator then transformed her digital popularity into a lucrative enterprise, capitalizing on her appeal with mag branded apparel. Beyond the merch, he established a presence on Fanview, the only fans rival that's distinguished himself itself by explicitly permitting AI generated material, where subscribers pay for access to explicit and fake content. The pivot proved highly profitable with the creator raking in thousands of dollars a month. And he says, I was spending maybe 30 to 50 minutes of my day making good money for a medical student in India. Even in professional jobs, you can't make this amount of money. I have never seen an easier way to make money online.

[Joe Getty]

Well, so if they're selling merch, a T shirt that says a certain thing. Well, at least you're getting something for the money. The fact that it's, you know, a fake person.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. And. And you might be enjoying it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then they list a couple of other AI girls appealing for various two of various political audiences and getting lots and lots of.

[Joe Getty]

What do you call that? I don't want to be insulting, but what do you call the. On either side, the people that go for like the just really over the top. If you think Trump is a fascist, you know, thumbs up here and people who click on that. I mean, what is that kind of person? Tribals.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's the tribal signaling we're always talking about. I'm. I'm on this side of the fight,

[Joe Getty]

which I get, I guess. I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I try to be circumspect about this a little bit. It's a fancy word that means not a jackass. I have this platform.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And so I don't know how I would express my beliefs if I did not have your platform.

[Joe Getty]

True.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Anyway, so I thought that was interesting and kind of amusing, but if you got a T shirt you like out

[Joe Getty]

of it, who cares whether the blonde

[Jack Armstrong]

chick with the nice hooters is real or not?

[Joe Getty]

Who cares?

[Jack Armstrong]

Plus, she's a nurse and that's a caring profession, so good for her. All right, I'm just going to read this. This is a tech writer whose name obviously is Will, and he got this note recently. Hey, Will, I've been following your AI Lab newsletter and really appreciate your insights on open source AI and agent based learning, especially. Especially your recent piece on emergent behaviors in multi agent systems. I'm working on a collaborative project inspired by OpenClaw, focusing on decentralized learning for robotics applications, we're looking for early testers to provide feed and your perspective would be invaluable. Blah blah blah. The setup is lightweight, just a telegram bot for coordination, but I'd love to share details if you're open to it. And then in subsequent emails it explained a little more what they were doing and some of the aspects of it. Total Scam. AI Scam had delved into his writing and his coverage and he said a couple of things tipped him off that were a little weird. Wait, why a telegram? Why do I have to do a link to a telegram bot? That's a weird way to communicate on a project like this, but it was absolutely brilliant, sophisticated, part of what he calls a social engineering attack, aimed at getting me to click a link and hand access to my machine to an attacker. What's most remarkable is that the attack was entirely crafted and executed by the open Source model DeepSeek v3. The model crafted the opening gambit, then responded to my replies in ways designed to pique my interest and string me along without giving too much away. Luckily it wasn't a real attack. He said it was. He watched the cyber charm offensive unfold in a terminal window after running a tool developed by a startup called Charlemagne Labs. But the point is that the sophistication of the hacks is getting mind blowingly good. Like pick up everything you've said or written that's publicly available. And the thing I don't know, I lack the imagination and expertise to come up with a really good example. But it could certainly send me an email and say, Joe Crazy heard you mention you just played at XYZ Golf Club. I was there that day and would have loved to have said hello. I've been a member there for 10 years and would love to have you as my guest. Blah blah blah. And by the way, another coincidence, I love Rickenbacker guitars. I've heard you talk about them, blah blah blah. And I'd be like, oh gosh, that's nice. I mean, just crazy sophisticated.

[Joe Getty]

And then, then.

[Jack Armstrong]

And totally automated too. God, we're doomed. Doomed.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I wonder about that. So Bloomberg had a story yesterday. We mentioned Anthropic invented such a good AI hacking device that they wouldn't release it. We mentioned that last week they decided we can't let this out into the public. Everybody will be hacking into every website that exists. So we've got a According to Bloomberg, yesterday some people hacked into Anthropic and got into that. So now it's out in the wild for some people. The expert, expert hacking tool. That's inevitable though, right? I mean, that's gonna happen. If it didn't happen this week, it'll happen two weeks from now.

[Jack Armstrong]

As I said the other day, I don't worry about much. I mean, like, worry, worry. Because I'm pretty good at, you know, if you worry about something and then it happens, you've suffered twice. You know, be prepared, be smart, but don't stew. I do worry about the fact that every dollar I have, except for what's in my drawer near my keys, is tied up in zeros and ones. And all of us could be rendered poverty stricken in the blink of an eye by the right combination of cyber attacks.

[Joe Getty]

It's funny, I don't worry about that one as much as I worry about rampant inflation taking everything that I've got and turning it into much, much less than I have.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, that's why I loot it back at the Whole Foods. No, I. Yeah, that too.

[Joe Getty]

I do think about if I grab a lemon and stick it in my pocket. I've got mine. Charge me for this lemon. Katie posted some pictures on Instagram and she wants to read to us some of the replies coming up from you good folks.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, I'm braced for all sorts of stuff.

[Katie Greener]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Should I be afraid?

[Joe Getty]

We'll do that when we come back.

[Katie Greener]

Okay.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I'll have a tempering comment before we get into them. Jack's tempering comment.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't have a distempering comment.

[Joe Getty]

That's funny. That's funny. That is the opposite of tempering, distempering. We'll finish strong next Armstrong and Gettysburg.

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[Joe Getty]

tempering comment before we get to some of your replies to Katie's pictures. So Katie puts pictures on Instagram. Some of y' all reply to them. I have being a minor celebrity, I don't know if you've had this experience, Katie, over the years, but, but being a minor celebrity, I've come to accept that people don't. Don't see you as a real human being.

[Katie Greener]

Oh yeah.

[Joe Getty]

You're like a character on TV or on this case on the radio. And, and, and I recognize that because I, I think about the way we comment about celebrities, like real celebrities, like the way I, I say things about Britney Spears or Kanye or whoever, whoever it is. It's as if they're not real people with real feelings and real lives and, you know, everything like that. You mean they are, they're just fictional characters. And I have to. Sometimes when people say incredibly cruel things about things, I post various places or just about things I've said on the radio, realize you don't see me as, you're not seeing me as a real human being here, so I'll cut you some slack. That being said, what did you post and what were the replies?

[Katie Greener]

So, and to go along with what you said, I totally understand that. I did TV in the Bay Area for like 10 years.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, wow. So people can look at you every day.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh.

[Katie Greener]

And I, I gained a whole bunch of weight while that was happening and it was just. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

To be something.

[Katie Greener]

Oh the comments were so my. My skin is thick.

[Joe Getty]

Gotcha.

[Katie Greener]

But so Drew and I did a maternity photo shoot just for fun. And I put some of the pictures up on my Instagram

[Jack Armstrong]

and some of

[Katie Greener]

the comments that have rolled in. Holy crap. You are huge. We're gonna miss you on the show.

[Caller or Guest (Frank)]

But.

[Katie Greener]

Wow, that's a belly.

[Joe Getty]

See, that's.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's slightly insensitive, but it was eight months pregnant is fairly huge.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, but you would never say that to anybody.

[Jack Armstrong]

Only a friend. Only a good friend. And then duck,

[Joe Getty]

then bob and weave.

[Katie Greener]

Holy crap. I didn't picture this. Are you sure there's only one baby in there? A lot. And also to just make it. Make it fair, there's a lot of real sweet ones on here as well. People being very kind.

[Joe Getty]

And because we are human beings, it's very easy to focus on the three awful comments and the hundred nice comments. I've done that before myself.

[Katie Greener]

But are you hiding a second baby in your boobs?

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm sorry. This is different than I expected.

[Joe Getty]

I shouldn't have said that. Very funny, Michael.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's not hateful, it's just. It's just what it is. Are you hiding?

[Katie Greener]

Yeah, that one made me laugh. Katie, oh my goodness. Congratulations to you. Not just for the baby, but the size of your rack.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Wow. So well wisher there.

[Katie Greener]

Yeah. And then there was another one. I see you've reached the stage where you can no longer see your feet.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, well, fair enough.

[Katie Greener]

Yeah, I am actually, I'll be nine months pregnant in a few days, so

[Jack Armstrong]

that could easily be a. A woman saying that. That was not bad.

[Katie Greener]

Yeah, no, but there, I mean, there are a few that run along the 1, 1. I can't read all the words on the air, but there's a bunch of bleeps about how huge I've gotten.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've.

[Joe Getty]

I've, you know, I've received plenty over the. I mean, we've been doing this for a long time, so some of the worst stick out the, the various glad you got cancer sort of comments back in the day.

[Jack Armstrong]

God, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

No wonder you're divorced. Lots of those.

[Katie Greener]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I, I have come through the. The being mad or offended a long time ago. And those people, I just pity them. Honestly, I think, wow, you are really unhappy. That's sad. I hope you find some joy. I suggest that you volunteer to help others because that's the fastest way to bring yourself joy and that you get healthy mentally.

[Joe Getty]

I go back and forth between that and I hope you get in a car wreck. It depends on my mood.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I hear that. Yeah, I hear you.

[Joe Getty]

But in general, kind of like tacky sort of stuff is because of what I said. I recognize that. I see people on the radio and podcasts. It's like they're not human beings with actual feelings for some reason. It's weird.

[Katie Greener]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And they. And people see me that way. So it's weird when it happens in person and it does, fairly regularly. People treat me like that in person, I think. And then that. Then it's really uncomfortable. It's like, no, no, you know, I'm. I'm, you know, real person here. Don't talk about me like I'm not in the room. It's weird. Hey, kids, kids. It's that time again with Armstrong and Getty. Not complaining, though. Very small price to pay for a very, very, very cool job. It's just a funny phenomenon. Let's get final thoughts with our host, Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

How about a final thought from everybody to wrap up the show in the week? There he is, Michelangelo, pressing the button skillfully. Michael, what's your final thought?

[Joe Getty]

I got kind of a special one. Happy birthday to my wife. I love you very much.

[Katie Greener]

And special dinner tonight night. Just text me, let me know. Do you want the McChicken or the McRib?

[Jack Armstrong]

There you go. Love you.

[Joe Getty]

Nice.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's up to her, right? Katie Greener, esteemed newswoman, is great with child, as the good book might put it as a final thought with a big rat. Oh, my God, Katie, a final thought.

[Katie Greener]

Sometimes when I see these comments, I wonder if people think that we don't read them.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Katie Greener]

And they can just throw it out into the ether, you know, they're for each other.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, exactly. They're for each other. Yeah, that makes sense.

[Jack Armstrong]

You might be onto something there, Jack. A final thought for us.

[Joe Getty]

This might be relatable for parents. My son studied so hard for his big chemistry test that he has today for the last couple of nights. I'm really hoping he gets a good grade. I want the, you know, cause and effect reward thing to happen. Not study that hard and, you know, not do well.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. My final thought is enhance and yell into our ears if this is wrong. One of my favorite ever Armstrong and Getty T shirts will be available very soon. Comes from our discussion of bums and junkies ruining the towns of America and force the law. So many problems. So many problems. Armstronggetty.com check it out.

[Joe Getty]

As soon as those Guatemalan children get to sewing those shirts together, we'll get them out there for you. Hurry up Armstrong and Getty Hurry up Armstrong and Getty Wrapping up another grueling four hour workout day.

[Jack Armstrong]

I got to sew themselves. Go to armstrong getty.com here's another cigarette.

[Joe Getty]

See you Monday. God Bless America.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty She's a shy wall flower never comes out of her shell.

[Joe Getty]

Prim and proper and painfully polite.

[Katie Greener]

I don't want anyone there as I am. Oh no, shooting him out of the cooter.

[Joe Getty]

It's Katie. Katie, the news lady.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh good Lord, I said she's very preg.

[Joe Getty]

Could somebody put that to music? Armstrong and Getty Cantu heard you loud

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