And I Shall Name Him...

Summary

Below is a detailed summary of the Armstrong & Getty On Demand episode “And I Shall Name Him...” released on August 15, 2025. The episode centers on a frank, humorous conversation among the hosts and guest Katie about her ongoing IVF and infertility journey, as she navigates complex medical decisions, hormone treatments, and the emotional rollercoaster of family planning. While several advertisement segments punctuate the episode, the heart of the discussion begins when Katie provides a deeply personal update on her treatments and future hopes.

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Episode Overview
───────────────────────────── • Purpose:
 – Katie offers a very candid update on her IVF journey and the challenges she’s been facing due to hereditary kidney disease.
 – The conversation blends humor, raw emotion, and frank details about the physical and emotional toll of the IVF process.

• Main Theme:
 – The episode delves into the modern medical and emotional challenges of infertility, the intricacies of genetic testing with egg retrieval, and the bittersweet excitement of learning the future baby’s gender and eventual naming.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights
───────────────────────────── • IVF Process and Medical Details
 – [03:20] Katie begins by updating her friends about her efforts to have a child through IVF due to her hereditary kidney disease.
 – She explains that her eggs (referred to as follicles until they mature) are retrieved and then nurtured into embryos to be genetically tested in order to avoid passing on her kidney condition.
 – [04:47] Detailed explanation of how follicles become eggs and then embryos helps demystify the process for listeners.  – Katie uses humor to counter the clinical details, noting her numerous medications, injections, and the discomfort of the process. As she puts it, “This has been an absolute fuck show. This, this sucks” ([04:53], Speaker G).

• Emotional and Physical Struggles
 – Katie shares that the process has been taxing both physically and emotionally, mentioning experiencing “three ant flows in one month” and a series of hormonal and medication treatments ([05:01]–[06:30]).
 – She also details her struggle with needle phobia despite having gotten used to injections over time—an experience many listeners may relate to.
  • Notable moment: “If I have the biggest needle phobia on the planet... just poke me. I'm over that” ([10:45], Speaker G).

• Decision Making and Family Planning
 – The discussion shifts as Katie reveals that after genetic testing, her top-quality embryo is a boy and she has already chosen the name “Jack Joe Michael Hansen” ([07:51] and reiterated at [13:24]).
 – Casual yet poignant exchanges ensue about the implications of knowing the baby’s gender ahead of time and friends teasing about “playing God” with such decisions.  – Katie humorously reflects on how knowing the gender influenced her feelings, saying that she’s “not playing God” because she simply wanted the best embryo available for her future child ([07:53]).

• Light-hearted Banter among Friends
 – Throughout the conversation, there is playful banter about the realities of parenthood, the differences in raising boys versus girls, and the humorous tension when discussing deeply personal aspects of family planning.  – Participants exchange anecdotes about their own experiences with parenting and other bodily quirks—for instance, jokes about “juicy veins” and the awkwardness of having blood drawn ([12:47]–[13:10]).  – One participant even remarks on how casual comments about profound life experiences can be seen as both a gift and a risk when discussing someone’s personal medical journey ([08:24]–[08:37]).

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments
───────────────────────────── • “This has been an absolute fuck show. This, this sucks.”
 – Speaker G candidly sums up the tumult of her IVF process ([04:53]).

• “For those of you that are just tuning in… I am going through infertility or IVF…”
 – A frank disclosure that sets the serious tone despite moments of humor ([03:25]).

• “If I have the biggest needle phobia on the planet… just poke me.”
 – Katie’s humor about overcoming her fear, resonating with anyone who’s faced similar challenges with medical treatments ([10:45]).

• Naming Announcement: “Jack Joe Michael Hansen”
 – The chosen name, delivered with both excitement and a touch of irony as discussions about gender selection arise ([07:51] and [13:24]).

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Timestamps of Key Segments
───────────────────────────── • [03:07] – Introduction of the personal update with the phrase “One More Thing.” • [03:20] – Katie introduces the update on her IVF process and the challenges of genetic testing. • [04:20]–[04:47] – Explanation of the process from follicles to eggs to embryos. • [04:53] – Emotional outburst revealing the harsh realities of the process. • [05:58] – Discussion about insurance coverage and the impact of frequent medical interventions. • [07:46] – Announcement of the embryo’s gender and subsequent naming discussion. • [10:45] – Reflections on needle phobia, adding levity to a tough experience. • [13:24] – Final remarks regarding the expected delivery window and reiteration of the chosen baby name.

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Conclusion
───────────────────────────── In “And I Shall Name Him...,” the hosts and Katie use humor and candid storytelling to shed light on a deeply personal and medically complex journey through infertility and IVF. Katie’s raw recounting of the physical challenges, emotional toll, and the blend of modern technological intervention with age-old fears gives listeners a profound look into the realities behind the label “journey.” The episode serves both as a source of comfort and a burst of levity for anyone facing similar struggles, wrapping heavy subjects in moments of frank humor and unfiltered conversation.

For those who haven’t listened, this episode offers an intimate glimpse into the highs and lows of modern family planning, reminding us that even the most challenging processes can be met with resilience, laughter, and hope.

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[G]

To be perfect and I shall name him Jack Joe Michael Hansen. It's One More Thing Armstrong and Getty.

[H]

One More Thing.

[I]

A Katie Green LED One More Thing podcast. What do you have for us, Katie?

[G]

Just a little update on my baby making process.

[I]

I think I understand it. I don't want to put too fine a point on it, but there's the whole. There's a penis, there's a vagina, there's the.

[H]

Oh, good lord.

[I]

You know, probably a little drinky poo, maybe a candle, some music.

[H]

You have no idea how subtlety. You're excused. Yes.

[G]

You have no idea how bad. I wish that was how this was going.

[I]

But that's not the way you're doing it.

[G]

You're doing it all. For the, for those of you that are just tuning in or don't know, I am going through infertility or ivf. And the reason being is because I have hereditary kidney disease that I could pass along to my child. So we are doing genetic testing to ensure that I do not hand this delight right on down. So we've gone through what's called an egg retrieval, actually two of them now where they go in and they take all of my eggs and they test them and biopsy them. And then what they do is they give me a report afterwards and let me know the quality of the embryos. Is everybody still with me?

[H]

Yeah. It's a lot of the egg or the embryo. So is the fertilized egg.

[G]

What's amazing is that we actually don't have eggs to begin with. They're called follicles. And then once they mature, they become eggs and they are nurturing these eggs until they become embryos. Once they are an embryo, they can genetically test that and find out what's going on.

[I]

How pleasant or unpleasant is, is all this, them gathering your eggs and everything like that.

[G]

Oh, this, this is bit. I mean, I'm gonna say it, this is. Sorry, Hanson. This has been an absolute fuck show. This, this sucks. This sucks.

[I]

So it's, it's not, you know, I feel like this is presented kind of when they talk about it, you know, drive by media style in the news, like it's, you know, it's no big deal. But you're saying it's a really big deal.

[G]

Well, and people, they, you know, the, the, the way people phrase everything that everybody calls this the journey. It's, it's not a, it's not a journey. I mean, if you want to call it that because it feels better, fine. But this is definitely. It's, it's a medical process. And just to, I mean, we're family here. To be tmi. I have had three times of the month this month. Whoa. Yeah, that's because. Whoa. Yeah. I'm pretty, I'm pretty over it at this point. But they've. I've been, I mean, I've been on 13 different medications and on birth control twice throughout this whole process. And the interesting part is they put you on birth control so the doctor can get control of the way your body is regulating your hormones. It's, it's really, it's an amazing process.

[I]

Anyway, so does insurance cover all this?

[G]

Insurance? Actually, I, I've been really lucky that insurance has covered some of it, but not a lot of it.

[H]

No, you folks can't see this because it's audio entertainment, but Katie is now waving around a pair of scissors. Can we ask you to put the scissors down?

[G]

Told you guys to stop messing with me.

[I]

Well, three ant flows in one month. That'll make you.

[H]

Yeah.

[G]

And, and let's go ahead and just put it out. It is the 15th of the month right now.

[H]

Oh, that's right. Holy crap.

[G]

Just remember, Katie, I really like you. I know you do, Michael. I know. You're just. You all have been absolutely wonderful through all of this. Just a side note, but so interesting angle to this. That was a little disappointing. Is that because I am the first in my bloodline to have this kidney disease. After my last egg retrieval, they told me that they cannot test my first.

[H]

Child because that's why we are here.

[G]

Thank you.

[I]

Right.

[G]

Thank you.

[I]

That's why you're doing the whole thing.

[G]

That's the whole reason for this whole thing.

[H]

Oh, boy.

[G]

Yeah. So this started in May, and at the first, the first week of August, I was informed that I'm going to have to go ahead and have the first pregnancy and they're going to test me at 18 weeks and let me know if the kid has polycystic kidney disease or not. So, yeah, that was that. There were a lot of Words that I won't say because I don't want a Hanson to have to have more work to do. But then I already gave him. But anyway, on a more positive note, my doctor called me couple days ago, and the first week of September I will be going in and the first embryo that is of highest quality is a baby boy.

[I]

Oh, well, fantastic.

[G]

Yeah.

[I]

And that's where you came up with the name for the boy, which will.

[G]

Be Jack Joe Michael Hansen.

[H]

Yes. Yeah.

[G]

So, yeah. And some people I've gotten, not friends, but associates or associates, acquaintances that have been like, well, don't you feel like you're playing God knowing the gender? And I don't feel like I'm playing God because I told my doctor I just want to use the highest quality embryo we have. And I just so happen to know the gender.

[I]

She didn't choose the gender. You just found out about it in the same way that I did with my kids. I did. I didn't want to, but their mom wanted to. And so. Yeah, just found out.

[G]

Yeah.

[H]

Boy. The willingness to make casual comments about the deepest and most important parts of other people's lives, that's. That's a gift. You have friends. Yeah, That's a real gift. You have to be willing to do that.

[I]

I can.

[H]

Charming.

[I]

I can normally ignore that. Not always. Will most of the time. Just like God. Why? Do you think of a thing?

[G]

Yeah, Because. Because also I asked, right. Because I was. I was wondering what their opinion was about how I was going to do my thing.

[I]

Sure. Yeah.

[G]

That reminds me, Jack, I'm supposed to tell you how to raise your children. I am very happy that it is a boy, though. I have to tell you, I do want to have a boy and a girl. But I'm. I'm praying that this one works out because I have a feeling that I will have a lot better of a time with a little boy and not another me running around.

[I]

I wanted. I wanted the both experiences myself. I've got two boys and no girls. And I see my. My neighbor with his teenage daughter and all the boys coming by all the time. And so it doesn't. It doesn't kill me that I'm not going through what he's going through right now. But, I mean, it would have been.

[H]

Nice having been down both roads, let me tell you. Yes, yes. The female road is a more complicated road, so it is not an interstate highway that stretches straight to the horizon as. Not that boys are. Exactly.

[I]

Yes.

[H]

It's different. It's different. You know, it's Been incredible and wonderful and amazing. But. Yeah, it's different.

[G]

What's funny is the conversation I'm having with my parents right now already is how if this child ever talks back, the leverage I have. Do you have any idea what it took to get you here?

[H]

Yeah. I can't play that card. Right.

[I]

Yeah.

[H]

Do you understand what I had to. Had wanted to, begged to do?

[I]

Right.

[H]

To bring you into the world?

[I]

Would do it every day if I had the chance.

[G]

Yeah.

[H]

Yes. Well. Yes.

[G]

Yeah.

[I]

That doesn't work.

[G]

Yeah.

[H]

Wow.

[G]

But it's. It's a really. It's an amazing, fascinating process. And it is. You know, when you first start it and the syringes and giving yourself injections and all of that, it is scary. But if anybody's listening, going through it right now, if I can do it, you can do it. Trust me. If I have the biggest needle phobia on the planet.

[H]

Oh, did you don't even like the term.

[I]

Do you have the experience I had with cancer where. Because I had a horrible needle phobia too, but I got jabbed so many times, it kind of went away. Just kind of got used to it.

[G]

Well, with getting my. With needles and shots now. Yeah. I don't care. Just poke me. That's. I'm over that, after all.

[I]

It's interesting. It's. There's a name for that. Immersion theory, something like that, but it's true.

[G]

Now. Come at me to take my blood. Still gonna pass out. Don't know why that's interesting.

[I]

I was talking to my son's psychiatrist about this yesterday, and his son has the same thing as my son. For a lot of people, it's not the needle. It's having something taken from you.

[G]

Remove. That's it.

[I]

That's interesting.

[H]

I'd never heard.

[I]

I'd never thought about that in my life. And my. And Henry said that's it. And my psychiatrist said, that's my son's deal is that it's. It's not the needle or the pain. It's the having something withdrawn from your body.

[G]

Yeah.

[H]

That freaks you out. And I've never thought that.

[G]

Well, that's.

[H]

Well, go ahead, Katie.

[G]

Well, I was just thinking because, I mean, I have tattoos, piercings. None of that bothers me. But the second that they're taking something out of me is when I start, you know, getting lightheaded.

[H]

You know, this is crazy, but I remember ages ago reading about this in. In reading about toilet training, that that's some kid's problem with using the. The potty and flushing it away, it's like, whoa. Hey, that's mine.

[G]

I have another problem I got to tell you about. No, I'm just kidding.

[H]

Oh, boy, that's interesting.

[G]

Yeah, because I, that's. I don't know why, but the, the blood draw is my. That's my arch anonymous there. Arch nemesis.

[H]

Yeah, anemone, whatever. Yeah. I don't want to talk about this anymore. It weirds me out. I gotta look away, I gotta think about other things.

[I]

Oh, you've got nice veins. You have really juicy veins. This is easier.

[G]

Oh, speaking of, I do have juicy veins. And the chick had to use an effing vein finder on me the other day and I, I. Oh, what? I don't even.

[H]

What is he. Higher one? Is that a dog? Is it sniff you or. Oh, I don't even want to know.

[G]

It's a little machine that they put over your arm and it shows them where your veins are so they don't miss.

[H]

There's one in there somewhere.

[I]

Let's find juice. It's the stud finder of the human body.

[G]

And you might as well be wearing a shirt that says I'm an effing rookie because why do you have that?

[I]

Ah, yeah, no kidding. Yeah, no kidding. Anyway, okay, I'm done too. I agree with Joe. We gotta stop.

[H]

So if I do, if I do.

[G]

End up, if all this ends up working out, Jack. Joe Michael Hansen should be born somewhere around the end of April, beginning of May.

[H]

Oh, cool.

[G]

Yeah.

[H]

That's a beautiful name. We all know you'll call him Joey, of course, but that's cool.

[G]

Yeah. This is why I just have tropical fish. Well, I guess that's it.

[I]

Come on.

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