Avoid the Harpoon

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand: "Avoid the Harpoon" — July 30, 2026

Podcast: Armstrong & Getty On Demand
Host(s): Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Episode Theme: Practical tips for longevity in midlife, current world conflicts (especially the war involving Iran), and memorable stories of survival and current events.

Episode Overview

This episode centers on two major themes: the essentials for increasing longevity in midlife, and breaking news and analysis of the ongoing war involving Iran, the U.S., and now Egypt. Armstrong and Getty blend expert-backed health advice for living longer, personal anecdotes, and their signature humor with deep dives into international politics, national news, and extraordinary human stories.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Innovative Safety Technology for Drinks (02:35–04:03)

• Interview/Feature: The show features Ashley and advances in drug-detection technology. A new device, co-invented by University of South Florida grad Addison Bounds (Ellora Armor), is discussed. The device can test if a drink has been spiked and send an automatic alert with the user’s location to a safety network.

• Quote:

  • "You just drop whatever's on your finger… onto the surface of the product. You'll receive a notification to your phone telling you if that drink is safe… And if your drink has been spiked, your live location is immediately sent to your safety network." – Ashley (02:38)
  • "It's brilliant to me, love it." – Armstrong (03:34)

• Discussion: Is drink-spiking truly prevalent? The hosts reflect on the real risks, especially as parents.

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2. Nine Things Experts Wish You’d Do in Midlife to Increase Longevity (04:31–13:40)

The hosts go through a much-discussed list of longevity habits:

1. Interval Training & Running Errands with Friends (previously discussed; referenced here).

2. Eat Fermented Foods (04:31–06:28)

   • Benefits of healthy gut microbes.
   • Armstrong notes: “One of the best ways to care for your microbiome... is to feed it fermented foods which add more good microbes to the mix.” (05:38)
   • Getty relays a cautionary tale: “I know several... long-time sober alcoholics who ended up drinking again because of kombucha.” (06:06)

3. Lift Weights/Resistance Training (06:28–07:01)

   • Practical and biochemical benefits (reduces inflammation via myokines).
   • "Resistance training causes your muscles to release signaling molecules... some of which help tamp down inflammation.” – Armstrong (06:55)

4. Include Protein with Every Meal (07:01–07:18)

   • General guideline: 0.8-1.2 grams/kg of body weight per day.
   • Getty jokes, “I try to get several pounds of protein every day.” (07:06)

5. Take the Stairs/Stay Active in Daily Life (07:18–08:10)

   • Move naturally; park far away, walk more.

6. Get the Shingles Vaccine (08:10–09:30)

   • Strongly urged — protects against shingles and possibly dementia.
   • “Trust me, you do not want freaking shingles.” – Armstrong (09:29)

7. Know Your Family Health History (09:37)

8. Maintain Consistent Bedtime (09:37–10:51)

   • Sleep regularity is a stronger mortality predictor than total sleep time.
   • "Getting too little sleep... is also linked to a shorter lifespan.” – Armstrong (10:24)

9. Maintain Social Relationships (12:01–13:40)

   • Acknowledged universally as challenging, especially for introverts.
   • "Maintaining friendships a priority is hard for me because I'm a bit of an introvert.” – Armstrong (12:01)
   • Getty adds, "I'm practically a zero on that one. So, yeah, that's the hardest one for me.” (12:16)
   • Armstrong: “Every single time I do it, I'm glad I did it.” (13:04)

• Notable Segment: The hosts muse about the difficulty of these habits, with a comically honest take on personality differences and the struggles of socializing for introverts.

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3. Socializing, Loneliness, and Life Changes (14:43–15:53)

• Childhood and raising kids bring built-in social connectors; as adults, maintaining these connections is often harder.
• Reflection on how mundane tasks (like running errands with friends) can have significant mental health benefits.

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4. News Update: Expanding War in Iran (19:16–37:09)

Recent Escalations:

• Iran bombs an installation in Egypt, a major military escalation; 12–13 countries now involved (19:16–19:53).
• Analysis: Why would Iran attack Egypt, introducing another powerful enemy?

U.S. Military & Political Response:

• Frustration in White House: President Trump urged to escalate attacks (26:10–27:44).
• Debate: Should the U.S. adopt a more aggressive (Mike Tyson-like) posture or stick to economic/military pressure?
• Quote: "How about a little more Mike Tyson and a little less whatever it is we're doing?" – Armstrong (27:44)

Weapons & Geopolitics:

• Reports of China supplying Iran with high-tech MANPADS (shoulder-fired missiles).
• U.S. forces respond with powerful airstrikes (29:37–30:46).
• Egypt becomes a direct target for the first time, a major regional development (30:23–30:46).

Political Analysis:

• U.S. likely to pressure Iran economically and militarily (with commentary from Mark Halperin's newsletter, 30:46–31:37).
• The risks and unpredictability of regime change: Who fills the vacuum if Iran's regime falls? (32:02–35:15)
• Quote: "The regime falls. What is that period after that gonna look like?" – Armstrong (32:09)

War & American Politics:

• Is the war a major issue for U.S. voters? Getty is skeptical: "On your 10 things you're worried about today? I'm not sure it would make the top 10 for the average person." (36:06)
• The real impact spikes if American casualties increase.

Emotional Segment:

• Moving mention of a 19-year-old female soldier killed in the conflict.
• "War is hell." – Armstrong & Getty (Repeated, 37:05–37:06)

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5. "Avoid the Harpoon": The Viral Survival Story (19:47–23:36)

The story behind the episode title:

• A hiker in Montana, David Cifaldi, slips and is impaled on his trekking pole, which goes through his armpit and out his back.
• Despite the gore, Cifaldi experiences "no pain and no blood" and hikes 6 hours off the mountain to avoid an expensive helicopter rescue.
• Hosts riff on the lengths people will go to avoid medical bills.
• Memorable Exchange:
  • Getty: "So you don't get [shingles] from prostitutes?" (08:36)
  • Armstrong (deadpan): "Not from prostitutes. Rarely, almost, sometimes never from prostitutes." (08:38)
• Quote:
  • “He self-harpooned.” – Armstrong (21:06)
  • “Six hours of walking down with that pole sticking out of him… and he's okay.” – Getty (22:55)

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6. News Nuggets & Lighter Fare

Tony Romo’s DUI Controversy (40:45–43:56)

• Tony Romo, famed NFL analyst, arrested for DUI; hosts discuss possible repercussions and public responses.
• Debate whether such events should cost a broadcaster his job, especially with a $180 million contract.

Alaska’s “Dan Sullivan” Senate Race Shenanigans (44:21–44:56)

• An unrelated Dan J. Sullivan (newly GOP, previously a lifelong Democrat) files to run against incumbent Sen. Dan S. Sullivan in Alaska in an apparent attempt to confuse voters or split the vote under Alaska’s ranked-choice system.

U.S. News & World Report’s Best State Rankings (45:46–47:09)

• Utah ranked #1 overall (despite being #48 for natural environment!). Louisiana bottomed out at #50 but “#1 for delicious freaking food.” (47:05)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Some days it's less trouble to just go with them... Go to bed at the same time every night. Hilarious.” – Armstrong (09:01)
• On socializing: “Those of you who do it on a regular basis because you love it… don’t get credit for that.” – Getty (12:40)
• “I'm working on it. Because I believe the whole social relationships are as important as like anything you can do as you age thing. I believe that.” – Armstrong (12:30)
• “Iran has now attacked 13 countries… That’s a lot!” – Armstrong (29:20)
• “Trust me, you do not want freaking shingles.” – Armstrong (09:29)
• (On the harpooned hiker) “That’s where we are with insurance now—that you’ll think, ‘oh my God, can I make it 10 miles with the thing sticking out of my armpit?’” – Getty (21:36)

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Important Timestamps

• 02:35: Introduction of Ellora Armor drink safety technology
• 04:31–13:40: 9 Life Extending Health Habits
• 19:47–23:36: Harpooned Hiker Survival Story
• 26:10–37:09: War in Iran — escalation, U.S. response, politics
• 40:45–43:56: Tony Romo DUI story
• 44:21–44:56: Alaska Senate "Dan Sullivan" confusion
• 45:46–47:09: U.S. state rankings discussion

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Conclusion

This episode serves up a rapid-fire blend of health and longevity guidance, incisive commentary on dangerous global developments, and quirky, sometimes jaw-dropping stories from across America. Armstrong & Getty keep things brisk, candid, and always a little irreverent, offering both practical insights and plenty of laughs. Whether you’re interested in ways to live longer, fascinated by world affairs, or just want a good story about surviving the wilderness (and insurance bills), this episode won’t disappoint.

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Transcript

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[Ashley]

We're really trying to develop something that really puts the power back into the hands of us and our peers. You just drop whatever's on your finger is plenty onto the surface of the product. You'll receive a notification to your phone telling you if that drink is safe to consume or not. And if your drink has been spiked, your live location is immediately sent to your safety network that you've connected to the app.

[Getty]

So this is like a litmus test to see if somebody drugged your drink when you weren't looking?

[Armstrong]

Indeed, yeah. These young, one in particular, University of South Florida grad students, 22 year old Addison Bounds, former beach volleyball player. She co founded Ellora Armor, a brand that includes, they hope to include bracelets, pendants, keychains, and maybe phone cases that can alert if a drink has been drugged. And again, not only do you get the positive test, but it immediately alerts everybody in your network who you designate. Hey, Addison just got a drugged drink. Here's where she is. It's brilliant to me, love it is.

[Getty]

Is it that prevalent?

[Armstrong]

Having raised a couple of daughters, one who is quite sociable, it is something they think about and are aware of how often it actually happens. I don't know. More than you'd like as a dad?

[Getty]

Well, yeah, once a decade would be more than I want as a dad.

[Armstrong]

Sure. Yeah. So speaking of health, we were going up. Yes.

[Getty]

Oh yeah, I was watching Fox and Trey Yang says he seems to think this report Reuters had earlier in the week that China's supplying Iran with shoulder fired high tech missiles is a big deal and Trump was very angry about it and contacted Xi immediately saying you better not be so. More on that later.

[Armstrong]

All right, looking forward to it. So we were working our way through nine things experts wish you'd do in midlife to increase longevity. We discussed at fair length, do interval training, run errands with a friend. Which seems silly, but again, listen to the podcast last segment, Armstrong and Getty on demand. If you missed it, you ought to subscribe. It downloads automatically. You don't have to do any work at all. Number three, eat fermented foods. And I'm like, what? But they go into a healthy gut microbiome, which is associated with healthy aging, closely tied to the immune system and helps to control inflammation in the body. Which reminds me, I read another piece in the New York Times about they're discovering more and more that inflammation like is not the symptom, it's the disease. A cancer doctor, a heart disease doctor and a dementia doctor got together and realized we're all treating the same thing, but nobody's quite sure what to do about it because certain kinds of inflammation are important to keep us alive. And Lord knows there are companies making billions of dollars off of poor people who hear about this and say, oh, I'm going to take this supplement or this berry or whatever. And most of them are stealing your money. But you do what you want, I'll do what I want. But one of the best ways to care for your microbiome for some reason, according experts, is to feed it fermented foods which add more good microbes to the misk the mix. You could start your day with a bowl of yogurt. I actually do most days. Or incorporate. And which of these words am I making up? Kimchi, kombucha, kefir or sauerkraut in your diet? Those are all real.

[Getty]

I know several. More than one. I think I know three long time sober alcoholics who ended up drinking again because of kombucha.

[Armstrong]

Oh, really?

[Getty]

Because it's got alcohol in it.

[Armstrong]

Oh, it does.

[Getty]

Or some versions.

[Armstrong]

Worth knowing. Yeah, worth knowing.

[Getty]

I didn't know that.

[Armstrong]

All right, number four, lift weights. And they talk about muscle strength. And. And every day I did that. Staving off frailty, quit breaking. And interestingly, along with the fairly obvious stuff, along with its practical benefits, resistance training causes your muscles to release signaling molecules called myokines or myokines, some of which help tamp down inflammation in the body. So resistance training number five, include a little protein in every meal. You don't need to go crazy. Just you need protein taking protein.

[Getty]

Does it say how much you should get today? How many grams or pounds or. I try to get several pounds of protein every day.

[Armstrong]

That's a bit much. The general guideline of 0.8 to 1.2 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight. Marge, I have to do math in kilograms.

[Getty]

Oh, how many kilograms I weigh.

[Armstrong]

That translates to 54 to 81 grams of protein per day for 150 pound adult. So I don't know. Some. Let's see. Number six, take the stairs. Which is obviously more than just taking the stairs. Experts talk about the importance of incorporating regular movement into your day to day life, not just during a dedicated gym session. Says this one doctor. I wouldn't call it exercise. I would call it physical activity. And you can get it in all sorts of ways. Take the stairs instead of the elevator. Walk instead of drive. If you do have to drive, intentionally park far away from the entrance. Over time, those steps add up and can make a real difference for your health. This one I didn't suspect was coming. Get the shingles vaccine. And this was crazy to me.

[Getty]

I haven't done that.

[Armstrong]

Oh, my God. My buddy Austin got the shingles Jack, Seriously. It was like he was being tortured by. Oh, my God. Did you.

[Getty]

How do you get that? Tell me.

[Armstrong]

My headphones. He got it. Because the shingles virus lays dormant in your body if you had chickenpox as a kid and can be reinvigorated and cause you horrific torturous pain for weeks.

[Getty]

So you don't get it from prostitutes?

[Armstrong]

Not from prostitutes. Rarely, almost, sometimes never from prostitutes.

[Getty]

That's why I thought it was in the clear.

[Armstrong]

So get the shingles vaccine. Here's the crazy part. There's growing evidence that the vaccine to prevent shingles also protects against dementia. Oh. Reducing the risk of cognitive decline by roughly 20%. Wow, 20%. I don't trust every study that bears a little thigh and gives me the come hither look. I like to see him replicated once or twice. But other vaccines, specifically the influenza, influenza, pneumococcal and TDAP vaccines may also offer some benefits. Scientists don't know exactly why this is, but one hypothesis is that by preventing infections, the vaccines protect. Protect against major causes of. Here we are again. Inflammation in the brain and body. Plus, you do not want freaking shingles, trust me.

[Getty]

Or the tdap you don't want. I had the whooping cough, which is pee in the tdap.

[Armstrong]

Whoop. There was. Make a list of your parents chronic health conditions. Why? Talk to your dad doctor. Ask which signs or symptoms you should watch out for and what you can do about them. Some of them you can't do much about. Some of them you can. And number nine. Jack, you're cool. This one. Loose. Oh, please. The loosest. You're going to hate. This one. You are. You know what, folks? Some days it's more. It's less trouble to just go with them. You know what I mean? Number nine, Go to bed at the same time every night. Hilarious. Getting to sleep. Getting too little sleep is associated with several health conditions, including obesity, diabetes, heart disease and dementia. Perhaps unsurprisingly, it's also linked to a shorter lifespan.

[Getty]

I think I do actually go to sleep pretty much the same time every night.

[Armstrong]

It's just always 3am and you get up at 5.

[Getty]

It's always later than I had planned, but it's probably pretty consistent.

[Armstrong]

Interestingly enough, perhaps most important is trying to stick to a consistent bedtime. One study from 2024 found that sleep regularity, going to bed and waking up at roughly the same time every day was an even stronger predictor of mortality than sleep duration. Which is interesting.

[Getty]

We had some sleep study while you were on Vacation that was all about that. The importance of having the. A schedule. I think most of us have a schedule for getting up because you get up at the same time every day. The bedtime is the hard one, but,

[Armstrong]

well, I slept like a baby on vacation. Oh, suck it. Suck it. Anyway, that's your nine things experts wish you do to in midlife to increase your longevity. We will post it at Armstrong and getty.com you might get paywalled. I do not know which is the hardest. Certainly you think the hardest one. Depends who you're asking.

[Getty]

For myself, getting the exercise every day for most people.

[Armstrong]

I mean, for most people, probably maybe weight training.

[Getty]

I mean, I lift.

[Armstrong]

Lifting weights, just resistance training.

[Getty]

I am in the gym every day. But one of the main reasons I'm in the gym every day is I live in a neighborhood that comes with a gym and it's within walking distance. If I had to drive across town and park in a parking lot and go in like every other gym I've ever been a member of, you don't go near as much. So, yeah, part of it is just the convenience.

[Armstrong]

Speaking for myself and man, I. Maintaining social relationships, making maintaining friendships a priority is hard for me because I'm a bit of an introvert.

[Getty]

I've got. I'm practically a zero on that one. So, yeah, that's the hardest one for me. Definitely.

[Armstrong]

Should I call a buddy and see if he wants to, I don't know, have a bourbon or go hit balls or whatever. Or I could just read this book. Yeah, I'm working on it. Working on it. Because I believe the whole social relationships are as important as like anything you can do as you age thing. I believe that.

[Getty]

But I'll make this clear. Those of you who do it on a regular basis because you love it and you crave it, you don't get credit for that.

[Armstrong]

No, none, zero credit.

[Getty]

You're doing it because you like it and you crave it. There are other people like us who we do not crave it. So it's not like constantly gnawing at me all day long. Gee, I sure wish I could get together with somebody and hang out that's not gnawing at me all day.

[Armstrong]

I have a relationship with that almost exactly the same as I and a lot of people have with getting in the gym. I, for whatever reason, I have a block. I don't want to do it. I feel like, oh, I'm nervous about it or think it'd be better to just stay at home. I'll just stay Home alone. But every single time I do it, I'm glad I did it.

[Getty]

Luckily, I've created the habit with the gym. Now it's be very uncomfortable to not go. It would feel very weird.

[Armstrong]

Yeah, but what about the social thing? That's what I'm saying.

[Getty]

That I'll never get. I'll never change.

[Armstrong]

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[Getty]

I hadn't thought about that. I don't know if ever. But the. The fact that there was a time in my life where running an errand, you practically always do it with somebody. Yeah. And it was way more fun. And we're finding out. Mentally healthy for you.

[Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. I was reading the other day about how useful proximity is and how. And this is. Boy, I can tell you this is true. Having kids is such a great social connector. You almost would have to be like a real angry misanthrope to not mix and interact and meet people, interesting people, annoying people, smart people, whatever. Through your kids. And when that goes away again, if you're an introvert, it's easier to not do that. But yeah. Yeah. I look back fondly at that time as a kid. I gotta go get something at the mall. You wanna come? Yeah. Was the answer like 100 of the time, Right.

[Getty]

Yeah. You might go to the DMV together, right? You're gonna hang out and talk to your appointment or whatever.

[Armstrong]

Now I'm gonna stare at my phone. I'm gonna doom scroll alone. That'll make me happy.

[Getty]

We'll get to the war in Iran. It is expanding again. Egypt is now involved. And if China actually sends those rocket launchers, that ain't good. Among other things on the way.

[Armstrong]

Stay here Foreign and Getty.

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[Getty]

We'll talk around here coming up in a little bit. Iran bombed an installation in Egypt, bringing that country into the war. Egypt is a top 20 military. Also, it's a real country. And why Iran would want another enemy with a real military. I don't quite understand their strategy, but

[Armstrong]

unless they've gone full apocalypse, let's bring on the great holy war.

[Getty]

Are you following the story of the guy who actually who slipped and impaled himself on one of his hiking poles and then had to hike 10 miles?

[Armstrong]

Oh boy. I am now. Apparently

[Getty]

David Cifaldi and two of his friends had been hiking for seven hours. That's a serious hike up Montana's tallest mountain. Just a couple weeks ago, when he slipped on a rock and fell,

[Armstrong]

he

[Getty]

saw one of his trekking poles on the ground, but the second one was never to be found. I've never hiked with the poles. Have you? No, I see people doing it all the time.

[Armstrong]

I don't. They sell them in rei and I've snowshoed like that. But no, haven't.

[Ashley]

Anyways, all of them.

[Getty]

Which poles? Ah, that's very funny. So he saw one of the poles in the ground. Hey, where's my other pole? Then he rolled over. Something wasn't right. Oh, it's sticking out of me. He had impaled himself on his pole. The pole was jutting at an angle into his left latissimus dorsi muscle.

[Armstrong]

Oh you don't want that below your armpit.

[Getty]

You know how they use the poles? You kind of seen that probably if you hike ever. It went up into his armpit and out through his back.

[Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Getty]

He said he wasn't in pain and there was no blood. He was able to take deep breaths and could feel the trekking pull through his skin.

[Armstrong]

He self harpooned. There was no pain and no blood. Go figure.

[Getty]

That seems weird.

[Armstrong]

It does. Any ER trauma docs listening? You want to email us mailbagarmstrongetti.com yeah,

[Getty]

I was pretty confident it was not in my chest or lung. Well that's good.

[Armstrong]

Oh, and while you're writing doctor, include a couple of stories of people who've come to the ER with stuff up them and the excuses they make because I always enjoy that.

[Getty]

That's one of the great Saturday Night Live bits of all time. The emergency room. And one guy always shows up with some hilarious thing in him and is a story on how he slipped and fell hoping to avoid an expensive lift off the mountain via helicopter. That's where we are with insurance now that you'll think, oh my God, can I make it 10 miles with the thing sticking out of my armpit? Yeah. Better than spin. I can't imagine what a helicopter ride. Last time my son needed an ambulance was $4,000 out of pocket. $4,000 out of pocket when I had my gallbladder and I. If I'd have known this, I would have crawled screaming because I'm not that far from the hospital. It was three grand out of pocket for the ambulance to take me a couple blocks.

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[Armstrong]

Wow.

[Getty]

Anyway, so he self harpooned.

[Armstrong]

But the money, he's thrifty. I appreciate that.

[Getty]

He walked around a little and said I'm not light hearted. He told his friends, I think we can get out of here. So they started hiking back.

[Armstrong]

Not light headed. Not light headed you said. Yeah. You meant.

[Getty]

Yeah.

[Armstrong]

Okay. What did I say? Light hearted.

[Getty]

Oh no, he. So he walked around, he said, I don't feel any pain. I don't think it's in my lung or anything like that. I don't feel lightheaded.

[Armstrong]

Let's try to walk out of here

[Getty]

so I don't have to pay for a helicopter bill.

[Armstrong]

Yeah. And then about 30 seconds to not be lightheaded.

[Getty]

Six hours of walking down with that pole sticking out of him and he's okay.

[Armstrong]

That's when he stumbled again and accidentally sat on a carrot. And that is how Dr. The.

[Getty]

Oh my God, I just saw the picture. For the first time. Holy s. Oh, lightheaded. Wish I hadn't seen that.

[Armstrong]

Has his friend seen that?

[Getty]

If your friend did had that sticking out of him that far in, you would think. Dude, we're calling 91 1. We're not hiking six hours back to

[Armstrong]

the car for the helicopter.

[Getty]

We got to post the picture. We'll post the picture.

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[Getty]

Yeah, that's in the Wall Street Journal today. And Fox's take on it was, was it was this Admiral Cooper trying to present a plan to the President through the Wall Street Journal because apparently he's not involved in the big meetings. It's Kane, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, obviously Pete Hegseth, the Secretary of War and Trump are in those meetings and somebody or a combination of those three are very hesitant to go big. And this Cooper dude, who's the CENTCOM guy, you'd think he'd be in those meetings. But at least according to Fox, they don't think he's getting heard. He, he thinks we need to go crazy big bomb the living crap out of him.

[Armstrong]

That's, that's an interesting interpretation of it.

[Getty]

Fox, as usual, through this whole war in Iran. They're, they're, they're not super pleased with the way Trump is handling this. I was watching it this morning and Brian killed me, like with this whole they hit us, we're gonna hit them hard. How about we just hit them and keep hitting them and they're worried about reacting as opposed to they do something, we react.

[Armstrong]

Yeah. How about a little more Mike Tyson and a little less whatever it is we're doing?

[Getty]

Yeah. Also the reporting on the Chinese shoulder fired missile things. So those are the M pads, super high tech piece of equipment. That's easy, very mobile and apparently pretty damned easy to teach somebody how to use.

[Armstrong]

I could use a couple of them.

[Getty]

And that's the very piece of equipment that brought down. Was it a plane or a helicopter? Remember we had the guys bobbing around in the water and we sent an AI boat out to get them and all that?

[Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Getty]

When that was shot down, that was with an M pad. And China's sending them tens of millions of dollars worth of those According to Reuters, China's denying it, of course. And according to Trey Angst on Fox, Trump called China. Yes, they called Xi personally about this specifically and said do not be giving Iran any weapons. Whether whether or not President Xi gives a crap that Trump called him or not, I have no idea.

[Armstrong]

Well, I think he does a practical transactional level or what the specific threat

[Getty]

was or is implied, I have no idea.

[Armstrong]

At least gigantic tariffs, I would guess.

[Getty]

Probably.

[Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Getty]

So I, and I don't know where this is going. And then the fact that Iran struck Egypt. So that's country 13 that Iran has has hit.

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Wow.

[Armstrong]

Is it that many 12 or 13

[Getty]

in an attempt to, or maybe that's how many countries are involved, including Israel in the United States. But it's a lot. We have so many interesting things here. I don't know which to go with. How about hit me with 50? This is Tranx on Fox.

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Today, just 12 hours after President Trump warned Iran would get a beating, US Forces unleashed powerful strikes against the regime. Dozens of targets were hit, including irgc, military command centers, missile and drone facilities, along with remaining maritime capabilities. U.S. central Command released a statement saying CENTCOM forces successfully completed a heavy wave of strikes against Iran in response to yesterday's attempted missile attacks on U.S. forces. The strikes aim to further diminish threats posed by Iran and its proxies to American forces, commercial shipping and neighboring Gulf countries.

[Getty]

I'll tell you in a second what Mark Halbrand's analysis of what this is all about or what is going on is in his newsletter today. But first, this from ABC News. 54, please, Michael.

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Once again, here in Jordan, we had incoming fire from Iran overnight. US Troops forced to take cover in their bases here for the second straight night as five Iranian missiles were ultimately intercepted. Egypt also being targeted by a drone attack. And that is a major escalation, the first time that that's happened since this war began. US Forces in Kuwait targeted once again overnight as well.

[Getty]

Considered a major escalation to throw in another country. And again, Egypt is a major military power in the Middle East. So this is what Mark Halpern wrote in his newsletter today. The readouts of the Bibi meetings, Bibi Netanyahu meeting with Trump personally the other day suggest that the most likely next phase involves US Strikes that are meant to buttress the economic pressure already being applied, including cutting off Iranian exports, imports going via land in an effort to break the will of the Tehran leadership. So military kinetic action in service of the main point, which is turning the economic screws.

[Armstrong]

So it's probably not going to be the Admiral Cooper devastating two weeks of kinetic action thing based on that.

[Getty]

It's not. And obviously the economic thing is slow. I mean, that could take six months, a year, who knows how long.

[Armstrong]

A lot of advantages to it, though, undeniably. Less bloodshed, less loss of American life, less depletion of our stockpile of munitions. It's by no means certain to work, though.

[Getty]

So the problem with regimes falling is you don't have the slightest idea when they're going to fall until they fall.

[Armstrong]

And then who steps into the vacuum.

[Getty]

Right.

[Armstrong]

That, that, as I've said many times, it isn't the sweetest and most gentle folks.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah.

[Getty]

And that doesn't get enough talk. The regime falls. What is that period after that gonna look like?

[Armstrong]

I think that's a decent bridge to the one clip that I wanted to hear and talk about. And that's 51. Mike, back to Trey Yangst on Fox News.

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Earlier in the day, President Trump told Fox News we are going to beat the effing s out of them after the Iranians launched that surprise missile attack on US Forces in Jordan. The president later spoke from the Oval office saying this.

[Armstrong]

We can hit him very hard. I mean, I can actually say that because in that there's very little they can do about was a different group than we're dealing with. They've already apologized, but, you know, we got to smack them a little bit back when they strike. Will I always hit back? Yes, pretty much. So the president saying, yeah, there are two different groups. The group we're talking to is like, oh, man, we're sorry. I hated for that to happen because these negotiations are going so well as the other group is attacking, you know, everybody in sight. That is a serious, serious challenge number one. Is it as straightforward or that as that or as I asked earlier in the show, is it good cop, bad cop? The Iranians are playing Trump. Look, look, you guys, every time we bomb them, call them up and say, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, call off the dogs because we're, we're so close to a deal. Just let's talk again. If I were the irgc, I would at least try that for a while. I'll bet it's on the other hand.

[Getty]

Pardon me. I'll bet it's that there's a reason good cop, bad cop is like a philosophy known by everyone over the age of 10.

[Armstrong]

Right. It's a very common technique. Right, right. Even if it's not a ruse, though. Well, let, I guess. Oh, the reason I wanted to play that in, in that spot was because everybody knows you have different factions within Iran. And what we're hoping, I'm spelling this out for myself, is that the IRGC and the hard asses, they fall, they give in due to our pressure, the unhappiness of the people. And given the fact that they're the guys with all the guns and all the money and what I, I, I'm racking my memory banks for, you know, all the revolutions and coups, coup D's and, and everything that I've studied through my whole life. And there's always a seriously armed faction that you can look at and say, yeah, when that regime falls, it's going to be those guys. It ain't going to be the university students who, God bless them, watch their friends and brothers and sisters get mowed down in the streets.

[Getty]

No, definitely not. Well, they talked about, remember there was the plan, we learned this a couple weeks ago, that Ahmadinejad, that was or Israel's plan to bring him back and put him in charge.

[Armstrong]

Right, right.

[Getty]

What? Okay.

[Armstrong]

Oh, and he was thrilled when that news came out, too. Yeah. He's enjoying the comfortable hospitality of the IRGC as we speak. Under house arrest, they say.

[Getty]

Had one more point on this. What was it going to be? Brian Kilmeade was saying something on Fox today about the pressure or them falling or I don't remember.

[Armstrong]

I'll think of it.

[Getty]

I'll think of it. This is going to be going on for. Oh, he was, his theory was the Iranians really want to drag this out to the midterms because they think that the Democrats are going to pick up a lot of seats because the war is so unpopular and then that, that will put a lot of pressure on Trump to end it. Are people gonna vote one way or the other based on the war in Iran?

[Armstrong]

I don't hear many people bring it up. It'll be a factor.

[Getty]

Everybody hates the price of gas, but the war itself, when asked about it, it's very unpopular. If the question was where does this rank on your 10 things you're worried about today? I'm not sure it would make the top 10 for the average person.

[Armstrong]

Right, right. And if you tweak the wording of the questioning and include to prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons, you see the numbers change drastically. So, yeah, yeah, I think it'll have an effect. But 5%, 10%, 20%, not a big deal.

[Getty]

Unless we start losing. Unless we start losing lots of men and women.

[Armstrong]

Which little gal from Texas. Ah, that's heartbreaking.

[Getty]

Did you see the video of her getting her when she moved up a ran? Oh, that was hard to watch. That was her in a little ceremony in a little room and she marched up there and stood there very proudly and got her next rank and everything. That was hard to watch. 19 year old girl.

[Armstrong]

War as hell.

[Getty]

War is hell. But man, they get those shoulder powered M pads from China, they're gonna have a lot better chance of bringing down more people. No doubt. Wonder what Trump said to Xi. I don't know.

[Armstrong]

Damn it. All right, never hit softly. Teddy Roosevelt greatest mistake is to hit softly.

[Getty]

You ever play that game of who can hit the softest?

[Armstrong]

I lost over and over again.

[Getty]

You never got on.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Huh?

[Armstrong]

What? Oh, Trick.

[Getty]

Why didn't this occur to me earlier?

[Armstrong]

One of the great big brother cons in human history. I'll bet the caveman big brothers did that to the little brothers. I bet that goes back thousands of years.

[Getty]

It probably does. Hurts donut. Probably not because the cavemen didn't have donuts.

[Armstrong]

I'm not sure you want a Hertz donut. Bam. Hurts donut.

[Getty]

What's your favorite text or email us? Stay tuned.

[Armstrong]

Armstrong and Gettysburg.

[Ashley]

This is Ashley from the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast. Ben. I've been reflecting a lot lately on how many big life moments our listeners have experienced with us.

[Ben]

Yeah, it's pretty wild.

[Ashley]

They've watched us go from dating shows to engagements, weddings, babies buying homes. Every stage comes with new decisions.

[Ben]

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[Ashley]

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[Armstrong]

you ever found yourself craving a cold snack?

[Getty]

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Montucky merch, use important snacks all one word for 20 off their merch store Former Dallas Cowboy star turned television analyst Tony Romo, remaining calm and courteous, asks to call his lawyer. He's handcuffed and transported to the police station to perform a field sobriety test. The deputy informs him why he's there. She says a search of his backpack turned up small unopened bottles of booze and documents obtained today by ABC News say police found an open bottle of Alco on the passenger side of the vehicle.

[Getty]

I so Tony Romo is one of the biggest deals in all of announcing for the NFL and that's the number one TV show in America by far. I saw some report that CBS might consider getting rid of him over this over a dui. It seems pretty odd to me since

[Armstrong]

they had line I saw was that they're not considering that, but who knows?

[Getty]

Who knows?

[Armstrong]

Started the rumor say anything?

[Getty]

Yeah, I thought it seemed crazy that they would get rid of him over this. Maybe there's some other reason or I think he's really good. So I like it when he's the color commentator. They paid him or his contract is $180 million over 10 years. I mean that's a big time contract.

[Armstrong]

So holy cow.

[Getty]

But it was presented as really damning news yesterday that he had an open beer in his car and I thought okay, I mean that's against the law. But the driving drunk is the problem. The fact that you've got an open beer in your car is not like to me an added layer of criminality.

[Armstrong]

Yeah. It's not like he had a bottle of Sky Vodka that he was swigging out of. He was sipping on a beer. Which is not to excuse any of this, but yeah. That. Yeah. There's a lot of silliness in the whole. Yeah. Discussion. The whole story. I'll never get on the air. And he ought to tell exactly what he did, the mistakes he made and say, look folks, if you're like me, you had a couple of beers after a round of golf or whatever and you're feeling if there's the slightest chance, get an Uber, get your car, have him do that.

[Getty]

Well, so he was at his hometown in Texas and hanging out with old high school friends, I guess. And then they apparently got it on and it was 5:30 in the afternoon. He must have been driving pretty poorly to get pulled over at 5:30 in the afternoon on a drunk driving.

[Armstrong]

But yeah, I think he drifted out of a lane. Typical.

[Getty]

Which kills people all the time.

[Armstrong]

Oh yeah. I'm not minimizing it. And I wasn't suggesting he should just do some announcements about dui. He has to pay the full penalty, whatever it may be. And it would be good if he got on the air and said, hey, look, here's what I did.

[Getty]

I'll never understand why people who have that kind of wealth drive after they've been drinking.

[Armstrong]

Why that would be.

[Getty]

That'd be the great thing about having hundreds of millions of dollars or tens of millions of dollars.

[Armstrong]

You don't ever have to drive again. Yeah. Yeah. I just don't get it, tiger. Get a driver. Dude, you're a billionaire. Don't want to leave your two hundred thousand dollar car in a parking lot.

[Getty]

I guess because you don't want to spend the. You wouldn't even notice it.

[Armstrong]

Pocket change to have somebody bring it

[Getty]

to your house the next day or something.

[Armstrong]

Yeah, I don't, I'm not arguing in favor of it. I'm just trying to imagine.

[Getty]

Get a friggin Uber.

[Armstrong]

Anyway, here are a couple of stories apropos nothing but worth mentioning. Chuck Schumer is denied involvement, but he lies in the campaign of Dan J. Sullivan, who has become a Republican. Like two days before he filed in the Republican primary for the Senate in Alaska.

[Getty]

Love this story.

[Armstrong]

He's running against Dan S. Sullivan, who's the incumbent senator.

[Getty]

We weren't big while you were gone.

[Armstrong]

Oh, were you? Oh, okay.

[Getty]

Love this story.

[Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah, he's a longtime Democrat. He claims he just wants to run.

[Getty]

He just happens to be a Democrat.

[Armstrong]

Never been involved in politics really.

[Getty]

And now he's running against the Republican who would obviously water down the votes. If you're. Don't take the time to see two Dan Sullivan's on the list and think, well, how to figure out which one's the correct Dan Sullivan. Here, here.

[Armstrong]

And I think part of it is that Alaska uses a ranked choice voting system under which all the candidates run in one primary, regardless of political affiliation. So they're trying to split the Republican vote. As a result, it's possible both Sullivans could appear on the ballot in November or neither one of them if it splits the vote successfully. Let's see. Oh, I wanted to get to. Yeah, we'll get to this. Let's see. The U.S. news has published its. U.S. news, used to be a pretty legit news magazine. Went up against Newsweek and Time and did pretty well. But now they just make lists of things, some of which are pretty intriguing. But they published its 2026 overall best state rankings. Each state was analyzed in eight categories. And as always with these rankings, when you dig into the methodology, you end up rolling your eyes and saying please. But they rank the states on education, health care, economy, infrastructure, opportunity, fiscal stability, natural environment, and crime and corrections.

[Getty]

Opportunity, natural environment. Who judges that?

[Armstrong]

Well, one of the, you know, natural environment would matter to me because I like being in nature. But what's interesting is that Utah, which was the number one state, ranked number 48 for natural environment.

[Getty]

Well, there you go. That's what I said. Who judges that? Obviously somebody with a certain view of natural environment that doesn't match up with maybe mine.

[Armstrong]

Utah's breathtaking.

[Getty]

Yeah, that's all I need to know about that ranking.

[Armstrong]

There you go. Well, Utah was the. Ignoring Jack's perfectly legitimate objection and disdain. I'll tell you. Utah ranked as the best overall state. Louisiana ranked DFL number 50, 43rd for fiscal stability, 45 for healthcare and opportunity, 46 for infrastructure and education, 49 for economy and natural environment, and number 50 for crime and corrections. You know, the Utah thing may have been silly, but they do have a point.

[Getty]

Re Louisiana, number one for jazz bands, number one for delicious freaking food.

[Armstrong]

True enough. Crawdads.

[Getty]

Come on.

[Armstrong]

Armstrong and Gettysburg.

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