Bare Ass Jane

Summary

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Armstrong & Getty On Demand – “Bare Ass Jane”

Date: November 3, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Jack and Joe bounce through the latest in British royal scandal, question the current value of college, dissect grade inflation at Harvard, reveal the man behind football coaches’ secret strategy books, and debate socialists’ rise in American cities. They also share their signature irreverence as they cover polling on the government shutdown, policies around food programs, and closing with wry riffs on Neanderthals and the ethics of cloning ancient humans.

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Main Discussion Themes

1. Prince Andrew’s Continued Fall from Grace

[03:35–05:30]

• The duo riffs on Prince Andrew's loss of royal titles amid scandal.
• They discuss the sensationalized media headlines:
  • “Ex Prince Andrew allegedly had 40 prostitutes brought to a Thailand hotel on a five day taxpayer funded trip.” [04:17]
• Commentary on the British public’s tolerance for royal family excess.
• Sarcastic suggestions on how Andrew might support himself, “I think he’s got all sorts of weird royal guy wealth. He’s just been stripped of his titles but I’m sure they bought him off. So he doesn't like become some sort of, you know, hoe for the tabloids.” [03:57]

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2. The College Shake-up and Harvard Grade Inflation

[05:30–16:34]

Palantir's "Meritocracy Fellowship": A College Alternative

• Palantir Technologies is recruiting high school grads for intensive fellowships instead of college.
  • “Alex Karp’s thesis: existing American universities are no longer reliable or necessary for training good workers.” [06:18]
• The fellows get a four-week seminar covering the foundations of Western civilization.

Critique of Modern College Value

• Joe mentions how little practical knowledge is now gained in college compared to the 1980s.
  • “I learned a lot in college in the 80s. I’ve learned much, much more after college.” [08:02]
• Criticism of soft curricula and the decline of hard knowledge:
  • “It’s all this soft, ridiculous learning theory, including radical gender theory and the rest of it crap, and very, very little hard knowledge.” [08:26]

Harvard’s Grade Inflation

• Stats: In 2005–6, 25.5% of Harvard grades were A’s; by the mid-2020s, it’s 59%. [10:51–11:00]
• Student reactions to proposed grading reforms:
  • “One college student was so distraught, she, quote, skipped classes and was just sobbing in bed the whole entire day.” [11:22]
  • Other students fear stricter grading will reduce enjoyment:
    • “I can’t reach my maximum level of enjoyment just learning the material because I’m so anxious about the midterm...” [12:40]
• Joe and Jack lampoon the “ridiculousness” of this:
  • “Show up and fog this mirror. Oh well, we didn’t need the mirror fog. Just give him an A. I mean, just continue breathing. They’ll give you an A.” [11:33]

Broader Effects

• The rise of “everyone’s a straight-A student” and negative incentives throughout education.
• “The grade inflation thing is a real problem all the way through education.” [13:27]

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3. The Analytics Revolution in College Football

[22:12–26:10]

• Discussion of Michael McRoberts, a data analyst with no football playing experience, whose “Game Book” is relied on by over 100 college football coaches for analytics-based in-game decisions.
  • “His most impactful work is a compilation of football strategies... assembled into something called the Game Book.” [22:50]
• Ole Miss coach Lane Kiffin: “If you really follow it, you’re gonna be much more aggressive than the old way of thinking.” [24:03]
• Jack speculates about the next frontier: “Wait till AI gets a hold of these numbers and can factor in a whole bunch of other stuff week by week.” [26:01]
• Takeaway: Football (like other areas of life) increasingly driven by data and analysis over gut instinct.

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4. NYC’s Socialist Political Shift & Economics Philosophy

[30:01–33:45]

• Satirical riff on a Saturday Night Live skit about socialism in New York.
• Discussion on Zoran Mamdani and a generational political divide.
• Jack, on Mamdani’s genuine socialism:
  • “Not like socialists like we all said Barack Obama’s a socialist... This guy actually is a socialist. Like, member of the party socialist.” [30:51]
• Joe: “When [DSA] were founded, it was like, we need a bigger social safety net. Now they are empty the prisons, open the borders, abolish the police, seize the means of production... borderline Communists. Oh, and flaming anti-Semites.” [31:01]
• Listeners’ take on capitalism: “All other economic systems in quotes are actually political systems, which, of course, is true. Free market is an economic system.” [32:20]
• General concern about NYC as a “socialist experiment,” but with characteristic humor.

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5. Government Shutdown: Real Impact or Media Hysteria?

[33:45–38:49]

• Discussion of polling about the government shutdown:
  • “Over half of Americans are very concerned about the government shutdown. I would put myself on a scale of 1 to 10, a zero in terms of very concerned.” [35:42]
• Both hosts question the veracity or significance of polling indicating 86% of Americans are “concerned.”
• Reflection on personal experience:
  • “It has had zero effect on my life... Maybe part of that is I’m fortunate enough to not... be on any government programs, so I wouldn’t notice the shutdown.” [34:07]
• Jack theorizes people are “media-conditioned” to worry.
• Skepticism extends to who is truly affected:
  • “Are two thirds of Americans being affected by the government shutdown? I just find that hard to believe.” [37:02]
• Joe: “When it’s over, it will go away and nobody will think about it again. Nobody’s going to the polls a year from tomorrow thinking about the government shutdown and who to blame. Nobody.” [38:19]

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6. Food Subsidies & The Surplus Dilemma

[34:35–35:13]

• Jack shares an anecdote about government cheese and school food programs:
  • “Schools now provide breakfast and lunch... for every kid, whether you asked for it or not. And almost all of it goes in the trash every day. Taxpayers are paying for it.” [34:43]

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7. “Bare Ass Jane”: Drunk Judge Scandal

[39:10–40:22]

• Amusing coverage of alleged incident:
  • “Drunk judge caught with her pants down. Peeing in public as cops haul away interfering husband.” [39:14]
• Hosts break down the absurdity:
  • “The problem with that is that’s poor judgment. To have your pants down in public.” [39:48]
  • “Pull up your pants, Rube. Also, should we clone the Neanderthal?” [40:13]
• Sets up for their next podcast where they’ll dig deeper.

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8. Cloning Neanderthals – Science or Mad Science?

[44:48–50:45]

• Joe is especially engaged, having 99th percentile Neanderthal DNA:
  • “I, Joe Getty did my 23andMe thing... I found I was at the time in the 99th percentile of the most Neanderthal genes...” [45:29]
• New discoveries about human/Neanderthal interbreeding and the expunging of Neanderthal DNA, especially from the Y chromosome.
• Jennifer Raff, biological anthropologist:
  • “That is one of the most unethical things I can possibly think of to attempt, full stop.” [47:09]
• Ethical, biological, and practical challenges of actually trying to “resurrect” an extinct human species.
• Book recommendation:
  • “If you haven’t read the book or listened to the book Sapiens, it’s so fascinating, all of this stuff.” [50:15]
• Out-of-time—promises more on drunken judges next hour.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Show up and fog this mirror. Oh well, we didn’t need the mirror fog. Just give him an A. I mean, just continue breathing. They’ll give you an A.” — Joe Getty [11:33]
• “I killed myself all throughout high school to try to get into the school... Now rather than being killed by them.” — Quoting Harvard freshman [13:32]
• “If you really follow it, you’re gonna be much more aggressive than the old way of thinking.” — Ole Miss coach Lane Kiffin on the Game Book [24:03]
• “Not like socialists like we all said Barack Obama’s a socialist... This guy actually is a socialist. Like, member of the party socialist.” — Jack Armstrong [30:51]
• “Over half of Americans are very concerned about the government shutdown. I would put myself on a scale of 1 to 10, a zero.” — Jack Armstrong [35:42]
• “Drunk judge caught with her pants down. Peeing in public as cops haul away interfering husband.” — Joe Getty [39:14]
• “That is one of the most unethical things I can possibly think of to attempt, full stop.” — Jennifer Raff on cloning Neanderthals [47:09]

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Timestamped Guide to Key Segments

• [03:35] Prince Andrew & Royal Family Satire
• [05:30] Palantir vs. College—Meritocracy Fellowship
• [10:30] Harvard Grade Inflation Deep Dive
• [22:12] Football Analytics & The Game Book
• [30:01] New York City Socialist Politics & Economics
• [33:45] Government Shutdown Polling & Skepticism
• [34:35] Food Subsidies & School Lunch Anecdote
• [39:10] “Bare Ass Jane”—Drunk Judge Scandal
• [44:48] Cloning Neanderthals: Progress, Ethics, and Weirdness

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Tone and Style

The episode is classic Armstrong & Getty: irreverent, rapid-fire, full of pop culture and political zingers, but with honest questions about societal values, the future of institutions like college and government, and what happens when data and technology upend everything from football to genetics.

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This summary covers all the important topics and memorable moments, with clear structure and attribution, so you can follow the show’s content and flavor even if you missed the episode.

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Prince Andrew has been stripped of his royal title of prince due to his involvement with Jeffrey Epstein. And Andrew says he can only become prince again if he gets a kiss from a young princess.

Wow.

So now he's completely out of the royal family? I guess. Is he gonna have to like get a job?

I think he's got all sorts of weird royal guy wealth. He's just been stripped of his titles but I'm sure they bought him off. So he doesn't like become some sort of, you know, hoe for the tabloids.

Right.

He'd have a lot of making money badmouthing the royals.

Yeah, he'd have a lot of things he could say.

I'm sure, I'm sure that NDA. Which one? Very fancy parchment paper with gold calligraphy. Is that quite thorough? Here's your Prince Andrew headline of the week. Ex Prince Andrew allegedly had 40 prostitutes brought to a Thailand hotel on a five day taxpayer funded trip.

That seems like enough.

That seems like a lot of prostitutes.

Yeah.

40. In the course of a five day.

Trip, three dozen prostitutes plus four.

Right. Eight a day if assuming he distributed them evenly over the course of his five days.

God, that is some Louis XVI sort of behavior. I mean what the hell.

Yeah, for all I know it was kind of a cattle call if you will, where he selected his favorites out of that.

Still the taxpayers paying. I've never understood why Englanders put up with the whole royal family BS anyway. I hate everything about it but ties.

Them to their history, don't you know?

Well it does in the way that kings have always acted. That sort of Way, I'm gonna get 40 women that will have sex with me whether they like it or not. And I'm gonna choose my favorites.

So we'll touch on that. Perhaps. No pun intended. And also, should we clone Neanderthals? But first, a trio of stories I found fascinating about the world of college in the modern day. The first was in the Journal about Palantir Technologies. Are you familiar with them at all? They are a really innovative, interesting tech company that works with the government a lot, the US Military, intelligence agencies, immigrations and border enforcement. And that's gotten them a lot of attention on the left. They're kind of becoming something close to old. What was it? Blackstone Black Ops, the contracting company during the Iraq war. Split it out of my head because I'm old.

All right. That was a really big deal. Blackwater.

Blackwater, that's it. Oh, Black water. Keep on rolling. Anyway, so this story about Palantir has nothing to do with that. The headline is, palantir thinks college might be a waste, so it's hiring high school grads. The tech company is offering 22 teens a chance to skip college for its fellowships, which includes a four week seminar on Western civil civilization. They're identifying bright achieving kids, some of some of whom have applied, excuse me, to elite universities and saying, hey, look, here's a different alternative. Why don't you come to our Meritocracy Fellowship, an experiment launched under Palantir CEO Alex Karp's thesis that existing American universities are no longer reliable or necessary for training good workers.

The whole college thing, now that we're on the other side of it, seems so ridiculous. It had been getting ridiculous little by little over the decades and then reached its ultimate point of ridiculousness.

Yeah, I'd agree. I think it's past its peak of ridiculousness, but we're still close to it. But so Karp, who was a college graduate and got a law degree from Stanford, the CEO said in an August earnings call that hiring university students these days has meant hiring people who have just been engaged in platitudes. And so they go into this program and it sounds great. It kicks off with a four week seminar with more than two dozen speakers each week. Had a theme. The foundations of the West, US History and its unique culture, movements within America, and case studies of leaders from Abraham Lincoln and Winston Churchill.

That sounds great.

It does. It sounds absolutely fantastic. And, you know, I learned a lot in College in the 80s. A lot. I've learned much, much more after college. But even in the 80s, and stay tuned for a great funny story about grade inflation. I remember distinctly as it was time to graduate. Gladys. I did very well. All modesty, you know, in a program called Political Science. And when I got my degree, it was not a Bachelor's of Science, it was a Bachelor of Arts. And I thought, wait a minute. Science is right in the name of my degree, but I got a Bachelor of Arts degree. What's going on here? It's like it's a fake science. And it's just gotten more and more silly since that day. I mean, I'll put my education up against a modern college education anytime, but it's all this soft, ridiculous learning theory, including radical gender theory and the rest of it crap, and very, very little hard knowledge. But they go into the description of the program and sounds really, really cool. And they get these kids into actual projects with clients quick and have them learn on their feet. And if you've got somebody who's curious and ambitious, they will learn plenty. And I'm a fan of liberal arts education, but it's become so silly and soft these days.

Well, most of the liberal arts education now, at least the curriculum Zival looked at has got so much. This is why you should hate Western Civilization. As you know, in every course.

Oh, yeah. You know, I think it kind of became clear from the text. But that was one thing I had meant to emphasize, is that the CEO and the leadership team of Palantir is squarely, enthusiastically, militantly pro Western civilization, pro voting rights, freedom of speech, democracy, that sort of thing. And militantly against socialism, communism, Islamism, the rest of it. Love them for that. So I love this story. This is great. So Harvard just put out a report that argued it's given out way too many A's and it needs to enact grading reforms to avoid damaging the academic culture at Harvard.

Too late.

Well, yeah, too late. This is absolutely fantastic. Here are the percentage of A grades by academic year. Okay, Back. Way back, Jack. We're going way the way, way back, machine. Back in 2005, 2006, 25 and a half percent of grades were A's.

Okay?

Here we are, not even 20 years later, it's gone from 25 and a half percent to 59%.

Look how much smarter people are. 60% of people get an A. Or 60% of the grades are A's.

Well, evidently they were ashamed of themselves because four or five years ago was 63%. Although it's climbing its way back to that.

Man, two thirds of grades should not be A's.

Yeah, I know, it's just, it's absolutely laughable. So anyway, Harvard kids, so you got.

To come out of Harvard saying you were a straight A student at Harvard, right? And then you find out you got in because you are white and rich or pretended to be a rower and they give It A's to 2/3 of students. So. Right.

Show up and fog this mirror. Oh well, we didn't need the mirror fog. Just give him an A. I mean, just continue breathing. They'll give you an A. Anyway, so they put out that report saying. All right, we're becoming a joke. One student, and I'm quoting now from the Harvard Crimson, summarizing from the actual student newspaper. One college was so just. One college student was so distraught, she, quote, skipped classes and was just sobbing in bed the whole entire day. I was just crying. Said freshman Sofika Unpronounceable, an economics, environmental science and public policy major who says she believes the fields are, quote, essential to building a more equitable, sustainable world. I skipped classes on Monday and I was just sobbing in bed because I felt like I was. I try so hard in my classes and my grades aren't even the best. It just felt soul crushing. Zarad Zara, also unpronounceable, a freshman who attended a $65,000 a year all girls school that does not rank students and offers an anti racist curriculum before she came to college.

65 grand a year.

Listen to this, would you? Said harsher grading practices would minimize her academic enjoyment. Quote, I can't reach my maximum level of enjoyment just learning the material because I'm so anxious about the midterm, so anxious about the papers and because I know it's so harshly graded if that standard is raised even more, it's unrealistic to assume that people will enjoy their classes.

Don't listen to kids.

I almost can't have fun with that. It's so sad.

And it's the adults making these decisions is the kids reaction. They didn't raise themselves as we always say.

And The Democrats want 16 year olds to vote. These are like 20 year old Harvard students. We're quoting here.

The great inflation thing is a real problem all the way through education.

A freshman, Kata Aronson, who cried when getting into Harvard after dreaming of attending the school for nearly a decade, said the prospect of stricter standards makes her rethink her decision to attend the Ivy. Quote, I killed myself all throughout high school to try to get into the school. I was looking forward to being fulfilled by my studies. Now rather than being killed by them. Well, another freshman said, I got to.

Admit, if you've been doing great inflation for decades, I'd be pretty unhappy if you're going to decide to fix it the year I come in switch. So I go out there with a, you know, a B minus average when everybody else graduated Harvey Harvard with an A average for doing the same stuff.

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Wow, wow.

You said that out loud.

Yeah. Interesting.

I remember pre me becoming a parent. Hearing about from all these people I knew whose kids were straight A students in high school. I was like, wow, everybody seems like everybody's kid is a straight A student. Yeah, that whole grade inflation thing is a problem, right?

Yeah, it's just, it's perverted incentives and disincentives for the, for the students and the faculty and the rest of it. Interestingly, the New York Times did a piece on grade inflation at Harvard that started all this found and we talked about this at the time, found a lot of Harvard students skip classes, don't do the readings, but coast through anyway due to rampant gate. Rampant grade inflation. You know, we didn't get to the, the third story. I wanted to do. We're out of time. It's about a guy who in effect calls the plays for a hundred different college football teams. Never played a down of competitive football, but he wrote a book that all the big coaches or a lot of the big coaches go with.

Well, that's interesting. I'd like to hear that. Yeah, I was just thinking, how much could I have skated in high school or college these days? Since I wouldn't have been shooting for an A, so lots of people getting A's, I'd have been perfectly happy with a B. So I could really have done practically nothing.

You might not have even had to like show up, just enroll and then get your diploma at the end.

Polling shows a lot of you are really, really worried about the shutdown. And is that true? Are you? Are you all that worried about the shutdown? Do you even know what's going on? Or I don't. We'll get to that and a whole bunch of stuff on the way.

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Usually I feel like polling kind of matches what I assume is going on at least a little bit. This polling around the shutdown does not at all talk about that. Coming up next segment.

Yeah, I'm, I got to admit, I'm also somewhat surprised, perplexed, confused by the results. So stay with us. So do you like the football? I really like the football. I won't watch a lot of watch a lot of NFL. I watch some college football and at some point every Saturday there are critical moments in the game where the coach makes game changing decisions. And when they do, they often rely on a single 87 page book. It's practically a booklet that they all have on their bookshelves. At least 100 or so fairly prominent college football teams use this book. It was not authored by Bill Walsh or Nick Saban or any of college football's greatest minds. And it's not Sun Tzu's Art of War. It is a color coded guide written by a suburban dad from Atlanta who never played a down of competitive football. Michael McRoberts was a Northwestern grad in biomedical engineering who spent much of his career designing debt collection strategies for a credit bureau. But his most impactful work is a compilation of football strategies that he assembled into something called the Game Book.

I find myself wondering if he's being comical compensated in such a way that he ought to be. That should be worth many millions of dollars. I don't know if he's getting paid at all.

Yeah, I want. That's an interesting thought. I mean, because it's a limited even if you sold one to every single college coach in the world, you're not going to get rich.

Haven't the big time coaches make many millions of dollars? Yeah. And for making these kinds of decisions.

Right, right. And it's funny having raised three kids and send them off to school and careers and stuff like that. The fact that he started in biomedical engineering, then went into debt collection strategies for credit bureaus, and now he's famous for writing college football strategy books. It's a good illustration of how life really works. But anyway, on every page, McRoberts presents the best course of action in specific situations. From when to go for it on fourth down to late game clock management. The company he founded, Championship Analytics Incorporated, now has a client list that includes more than 100 major college football programs. And it includes some of the most successful coaches in the game. Ole Miss coach Lane Kiffin has been using the book for six years and he says if you really follow it, you're going to be much more aggressive than the old way of thinking, the one where we were all raised around and watched. So in 2011, he was staying up with his infant son through the night, as any dad and mom can relate to. He began tinkering with spreadsheets. He couldn't believe that while the analytics revolution swept through other sports, so many football coaches still trusted their gut over hard data.

Okay, so that was the time that they are, you know, they're making the movie with.

Brad Pitt. Yeah, Moneyball.

Brad Pitt showing it's all about figuring out the numbers. And he said they're doing it in baseball but not doing it in football. That's interesting.

And he says why isn't someone giving them that information? At least let them know what the math would recommend. Turned out the calculations he used in his day job could also predict prudent courses of action for football teams. He began building the book, which grew to have a color coded system readable at a glance. Red for punt, yellow for attempted field goal and green for go. When to try for two point conversion, when to attempt an onside kick, Kick deep. How to manage 2 minute warning. Everything, nearly everything outside of, you know, specific X and O's. And with his advice, coaches have gotten a lot bolder last season. Teams faced with second or fourth down and less than blah blah blah, went for it 57% of the time, up from 27% just a few years ago.

Wait till AI gets a hold of these numbers and can factor in a whole bunch of other stuff week by week. That'll probably be become a big part of all sports.

I'll be individualized team by team.

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As interesting, the Saturday Night Live open. Pretty honest commentary, inaccurate commentary there about Zoran Mamdani that many of the things he's saying he's gonna do, he doesn't have the power to do. Although that's where we are with our politics in general now. Biden did it. Trump, Mom. Donnie's doing it. You claim all sorts of things you're gonna do on day one that you don't even close to have the authority to do. Um, but it shows directionally the direction you're going. I'm glad I don't live in New York, so I don't have to suffer on whatever policies he is able to enact. Gonna be a heck of an experiment for the United States to have the financial capital of America run by a freaking socialist. And again, not like socialists. Like we all said, Barack Obama's a socialist. Kamala Harris is socialist. This guy actually is a socialist. Like, member of the party socialist.

Well, in the dsa, the democratic socialists of America have swung way more radical than they were when they were founded. When they were founded, it was like, we need a bigger social safety net. Now they are empty the prisons, open the borders, abolish the police, seize the means of production. You know, borderline communists. Oh, and flaming anti Semites.

So I was listening to some of the political coverage this morning on News America. What? I never can remember the channel of.

That one America News Network.

I don't know. What is it called?

Let me O a n n right. Oan I don't know.

I don't know if that's right.

Let me look real quick.

I don't know, because I want to know what my news is. I'm a News Nation. What is News Nation?

News Nation is News Nation channel.

Okay? That's what I watch every. That's one of the many shows I watch every day, News Nation. Anyway, their analysis was the show in the polling. It's a huge age divide, and the younger crowd is entirely for Zohran because he doesn't dig capitalism and because he's anti Israel to way more of an extent than the older crowd, given the fact that New York is. Four out of five voters are Democrats already. So it's Democrats who don't believe in capitalism. And we got this text. I thought that was really good. Capitalism is the only real economic system. All other economic systems in quotes are actually political systems, which, of course, is true. Free market is an economic system. All your other systems are. Yeah. Politics have to be evolved at such an extent to control who's going to get what in what way.

Yeah, that's. That's a really good point. I mean, if I was to phrase it a little differently, I would say the free market is the greatest achievement ever wrought in keeping politics out of the economic system.

It's your best shot.

Otherwise, it just becomes theft. Yeah, theft and game fixing and thumb on scaling.

So how far is he gonna go with his rhetoric once he wins? This is the tacking toward the middle Mandani.

Right?

We'll see what he has to say once he wins tomorrow. I can't wait to hear his speech tomorrow night or in coming days. Give me something to watch. You combine his youth and exuberance with crazy, crazy ideas. I don't know. So that'll. Again. I'm glad I don't live there and I get to watch them, the Democrats run their socialist experiment from 3,000 miles away.

It could be a real zoo to watch unfold. I mean, a great soap opera.

So the other polling that has been getting a lot of attention is around the shutdown. So we're at day 34. Tomorrow's day 35. Tomorrow we either tie or set the record for the longest shutdown ever. It has had zero effect on my life. Now, maybe part of that is I'm fortunate enough to not, at this, at least at this point, be on any government programs, so I wouldn't notice the shutdown.

We have both known the delicious, tangy taste of government cheese in our lives. Correct.

I never ate it because I needed it my. My roommate went and got government cheese. He was big on government programs. He still is. And so he went and got cheese because we qualified for it. I wasn't going to go get friggin government cheese.

Yeah, I remember at some point we found ourselves in possession of a giant block of cheddar government cheese. I don't remember is a long time.

Ago the government gives out so much food that gets thrown away. I was talking about the schools a week or so ago I heard some teachers complaining that they provide the schools now provide breakfast and lunch at least locally for every kid, whether you asked for it or not. And almost all of it goes in the trash every day. Taxpayers are paying for it.

Right. And we could get into someday the history of the politics around it where you've got to have certain amount of agricultural production. I mean you don't want to be dependent on China for your food, for instance. And so we've subsidized and tried to regulate so we've always got good at. But it's gone crazy.

I have.

The Department of Agriculture is now just all powerful.

I definitely have been paycheck to paycheck in my life. So if I was, if I would have missed a paycheck like a lot of government workers are now, it would have been brutal at various parts of my life to I need that paycheck. That's how I make my rent now what am I supposed to do that would have sucked. So if that's happening to you and you're a government worker, you definitely be feeling the shutdown. But in general for most people, I.

Don'T understand how these numbers add up.

So the poll over half of Americans are very concerned about the government shutdown. I would put myself on a scale of 1 to 10, a zero in terms of very concerned about the government shutdown. I don't know if I have any concern whatsoever, but over half are very concerned and 32% are somewhat concerned. So that gets you to 86% of Americans are very or somewhat concerned about the shutdown. Am I that out of touch?

Maybe we need to run it through the media filter because again, they've been indoctrinated, told a million times how incredibly important this is and how about a terrible crisis it is. And people just. They're only sort of half aware of the reality of it because they're going about their lives and they take the media's word for it. That's wildly inflated those numbers.

The longest shutdown in American history wasn't very many years ago. Do you even remember that it happened?

Just the detail. Just, you know, stuff around the edge. You know what I would argue to Mr. And Mrs. America is these government shutdowns are so stupid and so often just posturing that this one is so egregious and embarrassing and how what a big nothing burger it is. I'm hoping this might end these idiotic little face offs in the future. So I'm enthusiastic about the government shutdown. How many people are with me? What's our percentage?

So four out of five Americans are very or somewhat concerned about the shutdown. Shutdown. And then to the percentage that say they're being affected by the government shutdown. 37% very concerned. 35% somewhat concerned. That gets you about two thirds. Are two thirds of Americans being affected by the government shutdown? I just find that hard to believe. I just, I don't think about it at all. Yeah, I don't know how long it would have to go on before I would start to be concerned about it again.

I must ask you, what's, where is this poll from?

Oh, they're all about the same. Everybody had one, everybody released polls yesterday. So you had NBC, abc, cbs, Wall Street. Lots of different polls that came out in all the talk shows yesterday. They were all around the same. This is CBS as I'm reading from. But the other ones were similar. Yeah, I don't know if I'm missing something. Text us or email. And if you're in a, you know, if you're a government worker and you're actually having missed your paycheck on over the weekend, struggling, that would suck. But for those of you who aren't government workers, where is this? I don't know.

Yeah, I, I, maybe you applied for a passport and it's running late or you, I don't know, possibly flying.

There were quite a few delays and cancellations over the weekend. The, all of the polling may lead with who's getting blamed. You talk about a nothing burger. Who cares who gets blamed? When it's over, it will go away and nobody will think about it again. Nobody's going to the polls a year from tomorrow thinking about the government shutdown and who to who to blame. Nobody.

Yeah.

Now Gavin Newsom is going to get his big win tomorrow, which I don't look forward to him crowing about with his slicked back hair, which he's going.

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He's definitely letting it go. More gray lately.

Yeah. Looks more distinguished. Yeah, he's distinguished himself by pooping on the great state Of California. Wow. Oh, speaking of which, here's your headline. Drunk judge caught with her pants down. Peeing in public. His cops haul away interfering husband. Okay, there was this live team coverage.

There's a lot there. I feel like you need to go slower. Can you say that again?

Drunk judge.

Drunk judge. Okay, the judge is drunk. It's not against a law to get drunk, I assume not on the bench.

Caught. Correct. Caught with her pants down. In public.

To her wasn't. I was picturing a Him.

No.

Pants down.

Yes.

In public.

Correct. As cops haul away interfering husband.

The husband is trying to stop that.

Hey, he's trying to stop the arrest, not the peeing. He appeared to be in favor of the. The urination.

Public pantlessness of a judge.

The nicturation.

The problem with that is that's poor judgment. To have your pants down in public.

Exactly. And as often happens in these situations when the police interceded and said I don't care who you are, you need to be cool about this, they. They decided not to be at all because they were far too important to have the law imposed upon them.

Get into it with the cops. Don't you know who I am? Yeah, I know who you are. You're somebody with your pants down and you're on your ankles urinating in public. That's who you are.

Yeah, we're going to call you a bare ass Jane. That's who you are, huh? Pull up your pants, Rube. Also, should we clone the Neanderthal?

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That was a heck of an interesting bit of information we got over the weekend. And France can't be happy to have that out there. It wasn't some sort of Ocean's Eleven. Super brilliant, highly orchestrated. Now it's just like a local, regular run of the mill criminals that were able to pull that off.

Yeah, you know, I had no, I'd forgotten. A friend of mine was in France and he went to the Louvre and saw those jewels three days before they got stolen. And we were chatting yesterday, he said, oh yeah, he could have just broken the glass and grabbed them. The security was a joke.

Interesting.

Which I thought was interesting indeed. So we don't have enough time to go through this completely. We're going to feature the discussion of cloning Neanderthals on the Armstrong and getting One More Thing podcast which we will record a little later today. It never airs on the radio, it's just a podcast. And sometimes there are swears we can cuss. But here's the thing. Scientists first sequenced the neanderthal genome in 2010 and they absolutely proved that Neanderthals interbred with human ancestors before mysteriously going extinct. Linked something that had long been believed. But. But they could prove it. And indeed when I did, I, Joe Getty did my 23andMe thing several years ago. I found I was at the time in the 99th percentile of the most Neanderthal genes because human beings carry up to 4% of their genetic material is from the Neanderthal genome.

I guess Neanderthals are actually smarter than Homo sapiens.

That's what a lot of people think. Yeah. Do you want to give us the very brief view of how we came to believe that Neanderthals were. Were thick headed morons?

Yeah. It was like one scientist in the 1800s who was a racist and attributed because they thought the skull of a Neanderthal looked like the skull of black people. And he thought black people were stupid because it was actually a racist. He decided Neanderthals must have been stupid, had nothing, nothing better than that to go on. Neanderthals had much bigger brains and almost certainly had more brain power. The fact that they couldn't take in enough food to power their brain is one of the reasons they might have gone away.

Right. So anyway, this is of special interest to me being 99% Neanderthal, as everybody on the show started to say, which again is a misstatement of the genetic truth. But, but I have a very large head, I have a broad nose and I, I definitely have Neanderthal genes in me. Anyway, okay, so you got this company, you remember the company that did that, claimed to have cloned a dire wolf. Yes. And the woolly, they made a woolly mouse to prove that they could make a woolly mammoth. And how that hairy elephants. All right, exactly. And that's exactly what they did. They just made slightly hairier elephants and an unusually large wolf and announced quite dishonestly that they had claimed. Claimed the. Or cloned rather a direwolf. Anyway, this company is talking, making noises about cloning Neanderthals.

It's not much difference than the Chinese shaving dogs and calling them lions.

Yeah, it's, it's, well, it's a little more technically advanced than that, but not very. But the guy who started this company, Colossal Biosciences Church by name, he's a Harvard scientist, was confident a decade ago that Neanderthal resurrection was a near term possibility. Other scientists are saying you're out of your blanket mind. And this guy, an anthropologist, biological anthropologist at the University of Kansas, said Jennifer Raff. I'm sorry, that sounds like a lady, not a dude quote. That is one of the most unethical things I can possibly think of to attempt, full stop. One thing you would need is, and I like this sentence. Oh, where is it? The one thing you would need is a, an extra extremely adventurous female human to serve as a surrogate.

Yeah, yeah, no kidding. Adventurous is a good word.

And here, here's the part that I found really, really interesting to get beyond the, the, you know, speculative, the Chinese are probably working on this anyway stuff. Although humans and Neanderthals did successfully inbreed in the past. Witness me, their son, their great times, the power of 50 grandson. Today there is at most 4% Neanderthal DNA in some human groups. And geneticists say the other DNA might not have been beneficial and so it was slowly purged out of the genome. But here's the really interesting part. Experts have discovered that humans, Y chromosome. Hello fellas. Lack Neanderthal DNA. There's none in it. Which may point to a fundamental immune system incompatibility between male Neanderthal fetuses and female Homo sapiens carrying them even in the hazy past. So you do the math. You got Homo sapiens females getting with a hot, hot, big headed Neanderthal dude, like myself. And once you go Neanderthal, you're never going back at all. That's what we say anyway. God, they couldn't successfully carry a male fetus. You do the math on that. If you've got, you know, interbreeding, but you never reproduce males in the interbreeding, then, you know, again, do the math. Death and a genetic variant in red blood cells in Neanderthal human hybrid mothers might have resulted in high rates of miscarriage according to other research.

Yeah, there's something about the way our brains worked as Homo sapiens versus Neanderthals that is really interesting. If you haven't read the book or listened to the book Sapiens. It's so fascinating all of this stuff. So much of it is new too. There's so much more known now than when. When we were in school about all of this. Like, nobody even thought Homo sapiens and Neandert were on the planet at the same time, right? Not that many years ago. And now we know there's like six different human species that were on the planet living at the same time. Right?

I really need to apologize to you good people. I'm so interested in the science of ancient humans that I didn't leave time for the peeing judge. So we'll have to get to that vital story next hour.

Vital. All right. Right. I don't know if I buy that.

Squatting right there at a strip mall.

Mom, Donnie just made a pledge. We'll have to get to that now. Or four if you missed the segment or an hour.

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