Bear Fight!

Summary

Podcast Summary: Armstrong & Getty On Demand – Episode: Bear Fight!

Release Date: April 16, 2025
Title: Bear Fight!
Host/Authors: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty
Platform: iHeartPodcasts

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Introduction

In the "Bear Fight!" episode of the official on-demand podcast of The Armstrong & Getty Show, hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty engage in a dynamic discussion covering pressing political controversies, bizarre criminal incidents, and societal issues. The episode delves into the Trump administration's deportation policies, a shocking necrophilia case on the New York subway, California's education policies regarding gender pronoun notifications, and the intriguing possibility of sportscaster Stephen A. Smith running for president. Throughout the episode, Armstrong and Getty provide insightful commentary, weaving in their signature humor and candid opinions.

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Trump Administration’s Deportation Policies and Legal Battle

One of the episode's focal points is the Trump administration's handling of deportation flights, specifically concerning Abrego Garcia, an illegal immigrant from El Salvador detained in a supermax prison. The hosts dissect the legal complexities and potential constitutional crises arising from the administration's stance.

• Maryland Senator's Involvement:
  Senator Chris Van Hollen of Maryland plans to travel to El Salvador to advocate for Garcia's return. Armstrong articulates the gravity of this move:

  "This may be a first. We're going to witness today a sitting U.S. senator traveling to a foreign country to advocate for an illegal alien deemed affiliated with Ms. 13 deported to his country." (03:10)

• Due Process Concerns:
  The discussion emphasizes the importance of due process, highlighting that Garcia has a final removal order but argues that his deportation is not a mere administrative error. Armstrong critiques the administration's justification:

  "He was not mistakenly sent to El Salvador. He is an illegal alien from El Salvador. In 2019, he was ordered deported. He has a final removal order from the United States. These are things that no one disputes." (06:12)

• Potential Constitutional Crisis:
  Armstrong and Getty speculate on the ramifications if the Supreme Court's orders clash with the executive branch's actions:

  "Could actually turn into a bit of a constitutional crisis. If the Supreme Court says, no, according to our laws, you gotta do this. And Trump says, I'm not gonna." (09:00)

Shocking Necrophilia Incident on New York Subway

Transitioning to a more disturbing topic, the hosts discuss a rare and unsettling incident of necrophilia on the New York subway system.

• Incident Details:
  A 37-year-old man died mysteriously on a subway train, and subsequently, another individual was caught attempting to assault the corpse. Armstrong highlights the rarity of such occurrences:

  "Byron York was referring to one sentence, I think, of the New York Times story where it said something like this. This is the only incident of, of this sort of thing that has been reported on the subway as far as the New York Times could find." (21:16)

• Public Reaction and Legal Implications:
  The hosts debate the psychological and legal aspects, pondering the minimal chances of recurrence and societal impacts:

  "The ick factor is just off the charts." (20:50)
  "Or was the guy dead and everybody just thought he was passed out or sleeping or something and a succession of people came through the car until a would-be necrophile." (21:16)

California’s Education Policies on Gender Pronoun Notifications

Armstrong and Getty delve into California Governor Gavin Newsom's controversial policy requiring schools to notify parents if their children change their gender or pronouns.

• Policy Critique:
  The hosts express strong opinions against the policy, equating it to "snitching" and undermining teachers' roles:

  "I just think that teachers should teach. I don't think they should be required to turn in kids." (28:32)
  "The job of a teacher is to teach about the gender-bred person and radical gender theory. Gavin, you require them to teach that stuff." (30:08)

• Political Ramifications:
  Armstrong connects the policy to broader political dynamics, suggesting it serves the interests of teachers' unions over voters:

  "The teachers unions and the radical activist class... makes sense." (31:07)
  "He cannot be president in the United States unless you're willing to take a position on this." (29:16)

Stephen A. Smith’s Potential Presidential Run

The possibility of ESPN's Stephen A. Smith entering the presidential race is another intriguing topic discussed.

• Candidate Analysis:
  Armstrong and Getty assess Smith's political viability, considering his progressive stances and appeal to various voter demographics:

  "He's very appealing to working-class men of all stripes. This is a great opportunity for the Democrats to try to claw back some working-class men with Stephen A. Smith running." (33:11)
  "If he starts banging the BLM drum though, for instance, he's going to lose those working-class men." (34:20)

• Challenges and Speculations:
  The hosts ponder the sustainability of a celebrity-run candidacy and its alignment with Smith’s public persona:

  "Did you know that? See you tomorrow. God bless America." (46:43)
  "If he doesn't think he can win, but he's serious about it." (33:40)

Final Banter: Gene Hackman’s Hoarder House and Light-Hearted Conversations

The episode concludes with a segment discussing the disarray found in the homes of the late actor Gene Hackman and his wife, intertwining personal anecdotes and humor.

• Hoarding and Mental Health:
  The hosts reflect on the chaotic state of the Hackmans’ home, attributing it to mental health struggles:

  "They had rotting fruit all over their kitchen... it's a breeding ground for rats and mice." (41:21)

• Casual Humor and Host Interactions:
  Armstrong and Green engage in light-hearted exchanges, showcasing their chemistry and ability to balance serious topics with humor:

  Jack Armstrong: "I've been on roller coasters. She told me that, that she, she's afraid of flying. And so it was very scary for her and they helped." (17:07)
  Katie Green: "Gayle King, you are so full of crap." (17:19)

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Conclusion

The "Bear Fight!" episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand delivers a compelling mix of political analysis, coverage of unusual criminal cases, and engaging host interactions. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty offer listeners a thorough exploration of contentious issues, underpinned by their characteristic wit and straightforward commentary. This episode serves as an informative and entertaining reflection on significant societal and political dynamics, making it a valuable listen for those seeking insightful and candid discussions.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• "This may be a first. We're going to witness today a sitting U.S. senator traveling to a foreign country to advocate for an illegal alien deemed affiliated with Ms. 13 deported to his country." — Jack Armstrong (03:10)

• "He was not mistakenly sent to El Salvador. He is an illegal alien from El Salvador. In 2019, he was ordered deported. He has a final removal order from the United States. These are things that no one disputes." — Jack Armstrong (06:12)

• "The ick factor is just off the charts." — Katie Green (20:50)

• "I just think that teachers should teach. I don't think they should be required to turn in kids." — Katie Green (28:32)

• "He's very appealing to working-class men of all stripes. This is a great opportunity for the Democrats to try to claw back some working-class men with Stephen A. Smith running." — Joe Getty (33:11)

• "Gayle King, you are so full of crap." — Katie Green (17:19)

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Timestamp Key:

• Subsequent references in the transcript are marked with their corresponding timestamps in square brackets (e.g., [03:10]) to aid in locating the quoted material.

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Note: This summary excludes advertisements, promotional content, and non-content segments to focus solely on the substantive discussions and insights presented by the hosts.

Transcript

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Yeti. The judge is now giving the Trump.

[Katie Green]

Administration two weeks to prove that they are facilitating the return of Abrego Garcia.

[Jack Armstrong]

To the United States. At that point, it will have been three weeks since the Supreme Court first issued its order.

[Joe Getty]

And for all that time, Albergo Garcia.

[Jack Armstrong]

Will be sitting in that prison in El Salvador. All his family has heard about his condition is what the administration has said, that he's alive and secure.

[Katie Green]

So that's ABC News's version of the thing with the Maryland man. Father of the year from Maryland or league Coach or Dangerous Ms. 13 gang member, depending on what network. Network you're watching. That got sent by mistake. And that's according to Trump's own White House.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, now they're saying it wasn't a mistake.

[Katie Green]

Oh, they are?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Katie Green]

I didn't know that. Okay, you'll have to update me on that. I missed that somehow. But they, as of, I don't know, two days ago, had said it was a mistake, that they sent that guy there and they. They shouldn't have. So now some Democrats are talking about going to visit the dude to check on him. Look, this may be a first. We're going to witness Today a sitting U.S. senator traveling to a foreign country to advocate for an illegal alien deemed affiliated with Ms. 13 deported to his country. But that's exactly what Maryland's Democrat senator Chris Van Hollen says he's doing today.

[Joe Getty]

I don't even know if we announced.

[Jack Armstrong]

This, but I am planning tomorrow to go to El Salvador.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Katie Green]

To work.

[Jack Armstrong]

To bring. To work to bring them home.

[Katie Green]

Are they.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's Van Holland of Maryland.

[Katie Green]

Are they that into this story we.

[Jack Armstrong]

Really need to run? 47.

[Katie Green]

Which one is that?

[Jack Armstrong]

It's Patty Morin. Her daughter was raped and murdered by an illegal alien. And she heard about this brave trip to El Salvador by Van Hollen. She said this. I'm very angry. I'm actually outraged, but I'm too sad.

[Joe Getty]

At the moment to show anger.

[Jack Armstrong]

At the same time, there was no action on the Democratic Democratic Party in any way from Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, my orcas, anyone here in Maryland. None of the senators did anything to help search for the murderer of my daughter. She describes the horrifying crime. We. I haven't heard it. And it's labeled graphic. Graphic with exclamation points on the sheet. So I prefer not to answer it.

[Katie Green]

No, I can imagine it. And I take her word for it. Your word for it. That was horrifying. That is interesting, though. I mean, due process is not a minor issue. But it is interesting that you can get politicians so worked up about this illegal gang member or not. Haven't been able to nail that down and making sure he's okay, but no interest in finding illegal who, you know, did horrible things to her family member. Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Can't get fired up about that at all. Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it? So a few weeks ago, or ever, it was in the first hearing, the administration lawyer said that this guy was sent to the Salvadorian mega prison because of a, quote, administrative error. He's been suspended. Now, according to Stephen Miller, who's always good for a good quote, quote. They don't have this tape, do we? It doesn't matter. Anyway. He was not mistakenly sent to El Salvador. He is an illegal alien from el Salvador. In 2019, he was ordered deported. He has a final removal order from the United States. These are things that no one disputes. Where is he from? El Salvador? Where is he a resident and citizen of El Salvador? Is he here illegally? Yes. Does he have a deportation order? Yes. Now, in 2019, an immigration judge prevented him, had issued a withholding order which prevents him from being deported to a particular country because this guy made the case that El Salvador, he would die there because a criminal gang was out to get him. And I've heard very. Even commentators like Rich Lowry of the National Review say it's a pretty weak immigration or asylum case. The sort of case that liberal judges routinely say, yeah, yeah, you're right. You should stay in this country. But the. So the administration has changed its tune at least a little bit.

[Katie Green]

Well, I'd like. I'm just throwing out a hypothetical. I don't know if this is this guy's situation, but if you're involved in one of the more violent gangs in the Western hemisphere and you end up in a situation with a. A rival gang where it'd be dangerous for you to be in that country, is that my deal? I mean, do I have to worry about that? Do I care?

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Katie Green]

You've kind of got yourself into a bad situation there. That. That doesn't mean you just get to come to the United States and stay here, then, does it?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, no. Well, the order says you can send them anywhere but El Salvador, but in practice, they didn't send them anywhere, as we could plainly see.

[Katie Green]

Right. And so then you get. And I just. Because I can hear some of the people screaming at the radio who care about this. That doesn't mean I'm arguing we shouldn't have due process and all that. We got to make sure that we stick with that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Katie Green]

I understand that angle of the story. I was just going with a hypothetical. Is that reason for asylum? You're a criminal in your home country and you've run afoul of a different criminal gang, so you get to come here because it'd be dangerous for you to stay there.

[Jack Armstrong]

That wasn't his argument. His argument was a criminal gang was blackmailing his family because all the boys in their neighborhood are supposed to join that gang. And so his family moved him and then moved him again up to the United States to keep him safe from being dragged into gang.

[Katie Green]

Right, I forgot. I forgot that angle of it. Like, because I mentioned the. The movie Gran Torino, which had that theme in it of men living in a part of town where your kid doesn't want to be in the gang, but the gangs put him in a position where it's hard to not be in the gang, which is just be horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible. I can't even imagine dealing with that sort of thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

So if you didn't follow the specifics of it. The Supreme Court, quoting the Wall Street Journal, tried to split the baby in a standoff between a federal judge and the Justice Department. Judge Paula Zinnis, Obama appointee had instructed the White House to, quote, facilitate Mr. Abrego Garcia's return, and the Supreme Court agreed with that order. But the court also specified that the judge's oversight had to be done with, quote, due regard for the deference owed to the executive branch in the conduct of foreign affairs. Journal says this ambiguity was an invitation to the judge and the White House to work things out without making it a constitutional crisis. Invitation not taken. The judge on Friday demanded an immediate administration report. Now the White House seems to have decided it can do a legal dance, claiming it doesn't need to facilitate anything. So hence the scene in the Oval Office with Trump and El Salvador and President Nayib Bukele saying, how can I return them to the U.S. smuggle him in. Question is preposterous.

[Katie Green]

So the president of El Salvador says he doesn't have the power, as the president, to yank somebody out of prison, send him the United States.

[Jack Armstrong]

What's interesting, again, this is about due process, not the dude is he's not been accused of or convicted of any crime whatsoever. So to find himself in a supermax prison is difficult to explain given our system of Government. The only reason he's in that prison is because our government sent him to El Salvador to put in that prison.

[Katie Green]

Right. And to call it a supermax prison is. It's more like sending somebody to it to be tortured to death. I mean, it's just. I mean, that's. Nobody, nobody, no human being should have to live in that environment. I mean, that's horrifying.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know how it actually goes day to day in there, honestly. Because there are vast differences between like a prison and a county jail just in the culture and the way they're run, stuff like that. I've heard, you know how strict it is.

[Katie Green]

23 and a half hours of light, for one thing. 80 people in one cell.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sucky. That's sucky. Well, you say cell. It's a big dormitory, essentially.

[Katie Green]

Right. But I just don't want that many people to have access to me that are that violent.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah. Oh, I agree completely. I'm not saying it's pleasant. I just. I'm saying I don't know that much about how it is day to day.

[Katie Green]

And you're presenting. It's like a Holiday Inn.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, sure I am. But anyway, how this guy ended up there is. There's got to be procedure, due process for ending up in a supermax El Salvadoran prison.

[Katie Green]

Yeah. Okay, well, we'll keep our eye on this story. I've got it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Could actually turn into a bit of a constitutional crisis. If the Supreme Court says, no, according to our laws, you gotta do this. And Trump says, I'm not gonna.

[Katie Green]

What would happen then? What you would hope would happen is that there are enough Republicans. Well, what would happen? I was gonna say they'd put pressure on the president. I'm not sure you can put pressure on the press, on President Trump.

[Jack Armstrong]

There would be frantic behind the scenes discussions and negotiations.

[Katie Green]

Well, let's take it to its limit. Like, if Trump really stood up against it, what would happen? Impeachment's the only option, Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Stripped to the waist and bare knuckle boxing with John Roberts. That's my understanding of the Constitution. Yes. Yeah, yeah, it would be.

[Katie Green]

Impeachment would be the only method to remove the president. And. And if. And if you don't go with impeachment, I think he gets away with it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. There are a lot of ifs.

[Katie Green]

I don't think this is going to happen. Lined up, kind of interested in what would happen.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah, super interesting question. I don't. It would. There would be tremendous pressure behind the scenes. Meetings, discussions, maybe acts of Congress condemning this, that or the other.

[Katie Green]

As Bill Maher said the other day after his dinner with Trump, he said Trump's way more self aware than he lets on and all that. So there would be enough people in, in that Trump trust that would come to him, say this, don't do this, this is not a good idea. For all the other things we're trying to do, this would be worth it, I think, don't you?

[Jack Armstrong]

I think you're probably right. Yeah. I think we're gonna find out in fairly short order because this stuff is continuing apace. As they say in places where people use that word.

[Katie Green]

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Then don't go.

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You can't help but go through that without being changed or something.

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Whatever.

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I have.

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Have you heard anybody who hasn't mocked this?

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No, no. Other than the chickstronauts themselves.

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Right? It's very mocking.

[Jack Armstrong]

The mockery has been universal and, and very entertaining as well. But Gail is not having it. She is clapped back. I really resent that people are calling it a ride. We duplicated the trajectory of Alan Shepard's flight back in the day. No one called that a ride. A ride sounds frivolous. It sounds insignificant. This was a bona fide flight. So, you know, I say, have you been to space? Have you seen what Blue Origin does to get these machines up, get them up and get them down with the precision that they do? I'm sorry, there are haters. There's always going to be Haters. Yeah, au contraire. It's exactly those things you said. It wasn't. I mean, like, precisely. And if I'm there in Italy, Spain, and I get on a cruise ship in my fancy matching outfit with the rest of my passengers and they take me on the same trajectory as Christopher Columbus, that's still a ride, baby. That's just a ride.

[Katie Green]

We're explorers.

[Jack Armstrong]

Officially an explorer.

[Katie Green]

It is a child. 100% insignificant and frivolous, which is what she's claiming it was. Okay, so I went through my notes. You weren't here for this story. I thought we had discussed this story.

[Jack Armstrong]

We might have. Remind me. I paw through so much horror every day. Sometimes it kind of just clouds over.

[Katie Green]

Maybe it was just Katie and I talking about it. On Friday, the New York Times was pushing back, trying to make the argument that necrophilia is not a common thing on the subways in New York, but is once enough?

[Jack Armstrong]

I certainly hope not.

[Katie Green]

So guy dies, guy gets on the train. He's only 37 years old. We got more information today than we had on Friday. Guy gets on the train in the evening about 8:00. He's 37 years old, dies mysteriously. Still don't have a reason why he died on the train. They have video passenger on the subway. Train goes over and starts rifling through the pockets and steals from the dead guy, which is really cool. If you die in the train, somebody's immediately gonna rob you. And then after the dude doesn't move and guy thinks it over a little bit, and I mean, who isn't turned on by a corpse? He sexes up the dead body on the subway.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my.

[Katie Green]

And he's still on the loose, by the way. He has not been caught.

[Jack Armstrong]

Stop him before he does that again.

[Katie Green]

And as Katie and I talked about this a lot on Friday when this story broke. I mean, have you your whole life been, Wait, it's just like, oh, my God, I won the lottery. My ship has come in. What did I do, God, to deserve this? Here I am alone in a room with a dead body. Or. Or what? Or did it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or had you trained?

[Katie Green]

Had you never been turned on your life by this before? And then all of a sudden, that day you thought, I'm feeling a bit of an urge here that I'm kind of surprised by.

[Jack Armstrong]

But when in Rome or something, an opportunity has presented itself, right?

[Katie Green]

Good Lord, what is going on there? I mean, because it's sort of, oh.

[Jack Armstrong]

The ick factor is just off the charts.

[Katie Green]

But you have to assume that 99.9 as far as you want to go. Percent of people that wouldn't cross their mind if they end up alone with a dead body. How did it happen here?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, I see. You're incredibly perverse and inappropriate. Lord, what did I do to deserve this? How is that guy the first guy to come across, right? What are the chances?

[Katie Green]

Or that's just my question on Friday. Or are there way more people with that tendency than we ever thought?

[Jack Armstrong]

Or was the guy dead and everybody just thought he was passed out or sleeping or something and a succession of people came through the car until a would be necrophile. You know, he was over and thinks.

[Katie Green]

Don'T mind if I do.

[Jack Armstrong]

Lordy, that what? What are the chances that that dude, the live one, should be among humanity for the rest of his days?

[Katie Green]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Jack Armstrong]

What are the chances? That's like, hey look, I stepped over the line. I don't know what I was thinking. It was a failure. I lost my head. Don't worry, I'll never do anything crazy again. What are the chances? Zero.

[Katie Green]

Byron York was referring to one sentence, I think of the New York Times story where it said something like this. This is the only incident of, of this sort of thing that has been reported on the subway as far as the New York Times could find. Like they're trying to make the claim that, hey, just want to let you know necrophilia isn't a regular part of our subway system.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Katie Green]

Now enjoy your day. What a story. The family's horrified. I, as I've always said, once I'm dead, I don't care what happens to me. So it's not worse for me. But you know, wife is heartbroken, family man, etc.

[Jack Armstrong]

The usual story, oh yeah, it's terrible, but the then you know, Armstrong and Gettysburg.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Katie Green]

Us to be more human.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Katie Green]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Katie Green]

Breaking news. A judge finds probable cause to hold the Trump administration in contempt over deportation flights Is. I don't know what that means or how that plays out or does that. Is that just in general or is this around that. That dude that they shouldn't have sent?

[Jack Armstrong]

Or was it around the. The. The judge who said, hey, stop flying people to El Salvador and one of the planes was already in the air and he said, turn it around. We can't.

[Katie Green]

Right. Okay. Anyway, that's just coming out. If we get more details, we'll pass it along. We got a couple of texts first, this one. While we're on the topic, I've got friends in El Salvador visiting family right now. People love that prison. Criminals that victimize citizens are removed. El Salvador is terrifying. Now it's safer.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes.

[Katie Green]

Is it because the prison's so bad you don't want to do crimes? Or did they just because you took the criminals and locked them up?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Old Bukele, he, he is absolutely a right wing strongman and he said, we're cleaning this place up. And he did. Now, does that mean it's okay to have right wing strong men in the United States, for instance? I would say no. But yes, he has reduced crime miraculously.

[Katie Green]

That's the first thing people want.

[Jack Armstrong]

Safety, of course.

[Katie Green]

Yeah. Number one on the top of the list. Couple other texts, real quick, not serious. We got this one. Those are caps. Corpse attracted people. Okay. I don't know if that's a term or not. And also this. If Gail King is an astronaut, I'm a fighter pilot because I rode with the Blue Angels for several hours.

[Jack Armstrong]

So you're now officially a fighter pilot. No, I'm not.

[Katie Green]

No, I'm not. I went for a ride.

[Jack Armstrong]

Don't say that. That's humiliating. Anybody reasonable would say, yeah.

[Katie Green]

Now, I haven't heard this. Gavin Newsom and Bill Maher discussing some California policies. We'll discuss. I see today the Trump administration, they talked about the fact that California had a rule that schools cannot be required to notify parents if their kids in school have changed their gender, their pronouns. That's the kind of thing, even though.

[Jack Armstrong]

It doesn't affect a lot of people.

[Katie Green]

That makes a lot of people go, well, you know what?

[Jack Armstrong]

That's the party without common sense.

[Katie Green]

Now, if that's your state, how are you? I just disagree with that.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean, the law was you would be fired, a teacher would be fired.

[Katie Green]

If a teacher did not report or snitch on a kid talking about their gender identity. I just think that was wrong. I think teachers should teach. I don't think they should be required to turn in kids.

[Jack Armstrong]

And by the way, turning in, we're talking about their parents.

[Katie Green]

The idea of a snitch and a parent to me doesn't compare well.

[Jack Armstrong]

I just, I don't. But what is, what is the job of a teacher? It's to teach.

[Katie Green]

If Johnny's talking about some identity issue or some issue about liking someone of.

[Jack Armstrong]

The same sex, is the teacher's job.

[Katie Green]

Well, I'd like to hear more of that.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's an odd cut.

[Katie Green]

Yeah. An interesting place to end that. I would like to hear more of that.

[Jack Armstrong]

So.

[Katie Green]

Well, the one thing that's clear from that, he is not confidently coming out and saying it's ridiculous that teachers would not be allowed to tell parents right about this. And he didn't say that. He had the opportunity right off the bat to say that, and he didn't. So there's no chance he's gonna be president of the United States. You cannot be president in the United States unless you're willing to take a position on this. It's been proven over and over. The candidates who try to, like, fudge these things and be wit and thinking they're gonna have it both ways never works. Never works. Didn't work for Kamala, ain't gonna work for Gavin. I can't believe he doesn't have the balls to come out and say, even in California, what, this has gotta be an 80, 20 issue, maybe to 90 10. I can't believe he doesn't have the balls to say that out loud.

[Jack Armstrong]

And to claim that Johnny, who now wants to be called Jenny, that that would be snitching on the kid and akin to maybe the kid hints that maybe he likes boys. That's just. That is so false. It's so funny. And. And also, the job of a teacher is to teach. To teach about the gender bred person and radical gender theory. Gavin, you require them to teach that stuff.

[Katie Green]

No. With all the crap in California that they haven't teach, that's not reading, writing, and arithmetic, that ain't gonna fly. And he's trying to conflate what Desantis is doing in Florida, where they have the law that you'll be fired if you don't tell the parents. And he's trying to act like that's what he's fighting against. No, no, no, no, no. You went completely the other direction. Where the te to tell the parent, that's nuts.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Katie Green]

And ever most people think it's nuts, as Bill Maher points out, most people think that's nuts. God, I can't believe I thought Gavin was smarter than that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here's the deal. What's really wrecking him and people like him, thank God, is more and more people are understanding the relationship between the neo Marxists, the radical, you know, gender theory crowd, the queer theory crowd, all these lunatics, the neo Marxists, and their connection to, for instance, the teachers union, which is down with all this stuff. Gavin doesn't dare defy the teachers union, which is down with all this stuff. So he went as far as he's gonna go with his. Yeah, there's a injustice there. We need to strike a balance with the girls and boys. So it's not the vice versa.

[Katie Green]

So it's not the voters that he has in the back of his mind needs answering those questions. It's the teachers union that. That makes sense.

[Jack Armstrong]

The teachers unions and the radical activist class of which he, I think, is, to the extent that he has any beliefs whatsoever, they seem to be quite progressive.

[Katie Green]

I think he believes he wants to be president.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. I'd like to hear more of that exchange.

[Katie Green]

Yeah, no kidding.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because Mar cannot be. I ought to be able to say this. He cannot be bull asked. I'll just say that. Why are you so oily?

[Katie Green]

Why do you take so much joy in cursing?

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know. I don't know. It's just. It's. It's a wonderful thing.

[Katie Green]

It's a wonderful thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, you know, I consider bull s to be a perfect word.

[Katie Green]

Oh, sure.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is universally understood in its meaning. It is brief, it has a ring to it, it has a rhythm to it. It's perfect work.

[Katie Green]

Yeah. And unfortunately, the substitutes do not carry the same weight.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, so Gavin is a liar and a perv and I want him to run for president because it will be so much fun to see his hopes treated like a child treats a birthday pinata. I have more on that topic. We don't have a lot of time.

[Katie Green]

Well, and were you here? Maybe this happened when you weren't here either? The Stephen A. Smith, the sportscaster from espn, the most famous sportscaster in America and hugely popular. He's serious. He's got an exploratory committee. He's looking at running for president. He says he doesn't. He's never wanted to be in politics, but he feels like that maybe this is the time for him to get involved and he won't run if he doesn't think he can win. But he's. He's serious about it.

[Jack Armstrong]

He's a lefty, right? Oh, yeah.

[Katie Green]

He always, he always takes the pretty damn progressive view of all things race related. I don't know where he is on any of the trans stuff. You know, he's. His appeal. He's very appealing to working class men of all stripes. I mean, this is a great opportunity for the Democrats to try to claw back some working class men with Stephen A. Smith running. And, you know, we've learned from Trump and Schwarzenegger that the whole celebrity running thing can reach people that don't normally vote. You could turn out tons of people that don't normally vote.

[Jack Armstrong]

If he starts banging the BLM drum though, for instance, he's going to lose those working class men.

[Katie Green]

I don't, I doubt that he does, but I could be wrong.

[Jack Armstrong]

You don't think he'll lose him or you don't think he'll bang that drum?

[Katie Green]

I don't think he'll bang that drum.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, okay. Yeah, I just, I don't know what the cut of his jib is, so.

[Katie Green]

Well, we'll find out soon if he decides to run. Although it is 2025.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. The, the, the, the, the, the new guy just took office, what, two and a half months ago.

[Katie Green]

I feel like the celebrities who run need to get in on the later end, not the earlier end because the earlier you get in, the more you get to be just taken apart as a. Not ready for the deal.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. So the only thing I was going to throw in about Gavi is Kevin Kiley and others are pointing out that Newsom and this was not covered. Just confessed last month that medical, California's medical is insolvent.

[Katie Green]

I wonder how many billions of dollars we've spent on illegals.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, right, yeah. It's a public health insurance program which provides health care services for low income individuals. Right. Well, as California Congressman Kevin Kiley noted, quote, the cost of Newsom's policy of giving free coverage to every illegal immigrant in the state has ballooned to nine and a half billion dollars. And he's now asked for a three and a half billion dollar loan just to continue making payments for this month.

[Katie Green]

Billions of dollars for free taxpayer funded health care for illegals is guaranteed a 9010 issue.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh yeah, yeah. He's like I say, he is going to get so thoroughly pinata. I can't wait to witness it. So he needs now to borrow $6.2 billion to cover medical expenses to cover the massive shortfall free to low cost health care for low individual incomes and families regardless of their immigration status.

[Katie Green]

That's nuts.

[Jack Armstrong]

He says. Yeah, good, good.

[Katie Green]

Run on that Democrats. Go ahead. Run on taxpayers paying for health care for illegals.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do it. Good luck. Carl Dio of San Diego points out I uncovered this cost spike two weeks ago and got removed from the budget committee for exposing it. DeMaio said the program has no money left. Quote, it is broke, it is insolvent. They can't pay hospitals, doctors, nurses and healthcare providers which means giving free health care to illegal immigrants puts the health insurance security for the neediest among us at risk. Children, seniors and others that cannot afford it are being threatened with their health coverage because we gave away the store to illegal immigrants. It needs to stop. Governor Newsom's medical system should be audited by the Trump administration immediately.

[Katie Green]

Wow. Okay. Well, that'll be a fun one to watch. We'll finish strong.

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Blue Origin's rocket successfully completed its mission with an all female crew. It was the first all female spaceflight in more than 60 years. They would have had another one sooner, but that's how long it took for them to get ready chicks. Am I right?

[Katie Green]

Slow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Katie Green]

Oh boy. So have you seen the pictures from the inside of Gene Hackman's home? Gene Hackman, the great actor who died a while back, laid there dead for what, week and a half? His wife died also. We have to figure out what went on there. Do we know yet?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, he died and then he. Well, they're died. They're dead is the point.

[Katie Green]

They're dead is the point. Anyway, their lifestyle. Holy crap. These pictures from the home and when I first heard that I thought, well, yeah, they, you know, they'd been in there dead for a while. But no, I mean this is obviously the way they were living because every room was like that. They. Well, she, he had, he had Alzheimer's or dementia really bad. She can't put anything on him. I don't know what her deal was though. But she's a full on. If you've ever watched Hoarder's Hoarder.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean, really.

[Katie Green]

Oh, just, yeah, crazy. And like the closets just stuffed full of clothes. I mean you can't fit them all in. And just endless bottles of her counter, her endless bottles of perfume and makeup stuff and just, just the whole house is just covered in stuff.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, that would make me insane.

[Katie Green]

And then also not very clean. They called it a breeding ground for, for rats and mice, for rodents, because just lots, you know, they had multiple dogs inside the house that were just running around the house and do whatever they wanted to do. Dog crates, beds, books, boxes, belongings, prescription bottles, toiletries, groceries, clothes. Just everything was covered in these kind of things now, the feces and urine. There had been people dead in that house for many days. So that necessarily didn't happen before they were dead. Might have been after they died. And you got dogs in the house. Right? Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're gonna have a little laugh.

[Katie Green]

A little.

[Jack Armstrong]

You. Yeah, gonna.

[Katie Green]

Anyway, quite the lifestyle they had there. So she was. Either meant she. She appears to have been mentally ill. Yes. Katie.

[Jack Armstrong]

Just one of the other things I noticed in those photos. They had rotting fruit all over their kitchen too. Just out on the count. They've been dead though for a couple of weeks or this. Have we dated the rot to pre mortem days? Happier times.

[Katie Green]

Yeah, that's right. But I mean, so that's the first thing I thought when I heard about the house being a mess was. Well, they were dead for a week and a half. Although, you know, you could lock up my house today and go back in a week and a half and it's not going to look anything close to like this, I mean.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah. I haven't seen the pictures. Is it. Who's covering it?

[Katie Green]

New York Post has them, but lots of people have them. But I mean it's, it's, it's. It's a. It. Look, it looks mentally ill. It's the. It's the sort of home of a mentally ill person. She was a hoarder or something, so that didn't help.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I saw the. The story in the Post about how he left lots of affection notes for her around the house. You know, thanks for your help with this. Love you, blah, blah, blah. And I don't. Why am I reading those in the newspaper? Is it. Is this his private correspondence to his wife now public domain? Because why. Why is the sheriff's office showing this stuff? I don't know. I'd like to think my private correspondence stay private. Unless, you know. I don't know.

[Katie Green]

Well, that's a. That's a very good question. And if, if your husband or wife dies, what. What do you owe society in terms of stuff that, you know, gets the cops get to see? Do you know how that works?

[Jack Armstrong]

No. I mean, if it's a mysterious death.

[Katie Green]

I'm assuming in this case it's not.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay. I don't know. I don't. Why am I reading his love notes?

[Katie Green]

That's a good question. Why are we seeing the inside of their house? I mean, there's no, there's no foul play, right? Why do we get to see your life, how you lived and mock your lifestyle? Why. Why is that? I don't want those pictures out if I die. Check your clock.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's time.

[Katie Green]

Not sure we're talking about death and legal things and this and whatever. And then we go into the cartoon bear singing to us. That's just very weird, though.

[Jack Armstrong]

I enjoyed it.

[Katie Green]

Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Holy cow. I'm looking at the pictures. You're right. Yeah. That's a serious head case. Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew. Michelangelo, lead us off. This story has scared me, actually, because it means I need to go home, vacuum, get cleaned up. Because in case I die, I don't want people at my funeral saying I can't keep a clean home. Right.

[Katie Green]

Does everybody get to see the inside of my house or any notes I left around or anything like that? If I die, I don't get it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm gonna leave some notes for my wife. I'm. I'm jumping into. Jumping the queue. Honey. I'll never forget the time we trained that elephant and rode him across New Mexico. You know, just stuff like that so people can read that and say, wait, what he did just gonna make crap up. Hey, Katie Green, do you have any final thought for us?

[Katie Green]

Yeah, just on the flip side of.

[Joe Getty]

What Michael said, seeing those photos, my.

[Jack Armstrong]

House looks so good.

[Katie Green]

Yeah. Yep. My lifestyle much better than Gene Hackman's.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep. Jack, final thought for us.

[Katie Green]

You want people to think you wrote a trained elephant across New Mexico?

[Jack Armstrong]

I was just trying to come up with something. Hey, honey, you remember the time I fist fought the bear and I got all scratched up and you healed my wounds? I'll never forget that. I love you. You know, just stuff like that.

[Katie Green]

Armstrong and stuff like that. Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

[Jack Armstrong]

Bear fight, fair fight. So many people to thank, so little time. Go to Armstrong and getty.com the hotel links Katie's corner, the swag. Drop us a note mailbag at Armstrong&getty.com. if there's something we ought to be talking about, send it along.

[Katie Green]

You know Trump's only been president for like 85 days.

[Jack Armstrong]

I can't take it.

[Katie Green]

Did you know that?

[Jack Armstrong]

See you tomorrow.

[Katie Green]

God bless America. Armstrong and Getty has been hijacked by the TQ plus and used as a.

[Joe Getty]

Trojan horse to mainstream their degeneracy.

[Katie Green]

That's what people do, you moron.

[Joe Getty]

I'm sorry.

[Jack Armstrong]

There are haters. There's always going to be haters. The even in Washington that math doesn't work.

[Katie Green]

Seems like there's a few kinks in that Slinky.

[Jack Armstrong]

We're swimming in a miasma of ulterior motives.

[Katie Green]

Wow, a miasma Was that flowery enough for you?

[Jack Armstrong]

If you came for flowery boy, you got it there.

[Joe Getty]

Thank you all very much.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty for some of us.

[Joe Getty]

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[Katie Green]

Hmm.

[Joe Getty]

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