Boo-Effing-Hoo

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: "Boo-Effing-Hoo"
Date: October 2, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

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Episode Overview

This episode of Armstrong & Getty centers around recent political shenanigans in Washington—particularly the government shutdown spectacle, media narratives, the role of partisanship, humor in politics (often involving AI), and a bit of sports and pop culture. The hosts scrutinize media bubbles on both the left and right, examine the uproar over Biden's note cards, discuss Jane Goodall’s impact, and riff on current events with their signature irreverence. The tone is satirical, skeptical, and conversational, blending analysis with banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Political Satire & Social Media Antics

• Armstrong & Getty open with commentary on a controversy over President Biden sharing altered images of Democratic leaders, like Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer, in sombreros.

  • [01:08] – [01:54]
    Jack riffs on the absurdity of reporters taking these images so seriously.
    • "Is it helpful to post pictures of Hakeem Jeffries in a sombrero?" – Jack Armstrong [01:38]
  • Joe sees humor as a negotiating tool:
    • "You can negotiate in good faith while also poking a little bit of fun at some of the absurdities of the Democrats' positions..." – Joe Getty [01:30]

• They lampoon both sides’ performative outrage, suggesting both parties use such stunts for partisan advantage.

2. Rahm Emanuel and Education Politics

• Brief detour discussing Rahm Emanuel's Wall Street Journal editorial on education.
  • Joe notes how Emanuel is pivoting to a "common sense, moderate Democrat" approach, not pandering to the party's leftmost faction ([02:06]).
  • Jack admires Emanuel’s willingness to "stiff-arm" progressive activists ([02:25]).

3. Biden’s Note Cards & Age Concerns

• Discussion of news that President Biden used note cards—even with household names—for ceremonial events. The cards listed names and photos, e.g., Hillary Clinton (“famous actor” for Denzel Washington, etc.).

  • [03:08] – [05:59]
  • The hosts see nothing inherently odd about political cheat sheets for unfamiliar faces, but find it remarkable that Biden needs them for prominent figures.
    • "So not only did Joe Biden have those cards for people he didn't know, he had them for people he did know..." – Jack Armstrong [03:53]
    • "It said on the card, 'he's a famous actor.' Yes, he is. Thereby making us wonder why you need the card." – Joe Getty [05:59]

• They recall Biden's "Where's Jackie?" gaffe, using it as evidence for public concern.

4. Healthcare for Undocumented Immigrants & Government Shutdown

• Ro Khanna’s accidental admission about taxpayer dollars for illegal immigrants’ healthcare is discussed, contrasting old and new Democratic stances ([06:27]–[07:10]).

• Jack and Joe debate the shutdown logic, arguing that if funding is as insignificant as NPR claims, "then don't get it."

  • "You can't have it both ways. You can't claim it's really not that important to us... Okay, fine, then let's shut it off." – Jack Armstrong [08:11]

• Joe mocks NPR’s reaction to the loss of federal funding:

  • "Their local radio ranch might have gone from 120 employees to 20... But NPR has to lay off one or two people, conceivably. And they act like it's the apocalypse. Please." – Joe Getty [09:27]

5. Media Critique & Bubbles

• The hosts highlight how partisan bubbles distort reality, referencing studies on the media’s narrative around incidents like Charlie Kirk's assassination (see later section for more detail).
• They riff satirically on NPR listeners claiming "there's no spin or lies":
  • "Someplace I can go to get the real story. You've got to be kidding me." – Jack Armstrong [09:39]

6. Sports Segment: Fastest Pitch in Baseball

• Commentary on Mason Miller’s 104 mph pitch, musing on the increasing velocity in baseball and the implications for the game ([13:28]–[15:37]).

7. Jane Goodall's Legacy

• Tangential but rich discussion on the late Jane Goodall, her foundational work among chimpanzees, and public misunderstandings.
  • Joe gives an accessible mini-biography:
    • "She was the first person to really observe chimpanzees in the wild and how they behave and made some amazing discoveries..." – Joe Getty [17:05]
• They also refer to the infamous Far Side cartoon, Goodall’s sense of humor, and the "grizzly man" comparison ([16:00]–[19:21]).

8. AI, Satire, and Outrage: Schumer and Jeffries in Sombreros

• Satirical AI-generated voices parody Democratic leaders, illustrating how digital content can stoke controversy.
  • [21:00]–[22:25]: Over-the-top, intentionally offensive AI voiceovers lampoon both sides and underline the farcical nature of the debate.
  • Jack points out how both media and politicians run with such distractions.

9. Shutdowns: Real Consequences or Manufactured Drama?

• Recurrent theme: government shutdowns are theatrical, rarely impactful, driven by pressure from activist factions without real leverage.
  • "These shutdowns are dumb and don't matter. And the last one lasted a month, and you don't even remember it happened." – Jack Armstrong [24:11]
• They liken current Democratic tactics to Tea Party-era GOP brinkmanship: lots of noise, little real-world change ([25:04]).

10. Impressions & Voice Parody (Comedic Relief)

• The episode features multiple comedic interludes with Trump impersonations, fake Spanish, etc. ([25:42]–[27:04])
  • Both hosts agree the satire is barely distinguishable from reality at this point.

11. Middle East Roundup: Gaza and the Israel-Hamas Conflict

• Brief but serious update on Israel's continued offensive against Hamas, the peace proposal timeline, and media coverage.
  • "You're holding Israel to a standard that has never existed in warfare in the history of the world." – Joe Getty [31:10]

12. Deep Dive: Media Bubbles and Misinformation

• Joe recounts several examples of how left and right media circles create alternate realities, particularly highlighted by reactions to Charlie Kirk’s assassination.
  • [33:11]–[40:46]
  • Anecdotes include professors and major AI platforms mislabeling the motives behind the crime.
    • "A lot of folks who think some crazy ass, they're probably not bad people, but they're used to looking in...mainstream-ish places for information and what they're getting is just wildly inaccurate." – Joe Getty [35:06]
• Jack points out conspiracy thinking is nonpartisan.
  • "It's not because they're bad, it's just because of where they go to get their information." – Jack Armstrong [35:06]
• The notion of "digital dopamine" arises, describing the addictive appeal of social media and partisan online information [31:54].

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments with Timestamps

• Political Satire on Negotiation:

  • "Is it helpful to post pictures of Hakeem Jeffries in a sombrero?" – Jack Armstrong [01:38]
  • "You can negotiate in good faith while also poking a little bit of fun at some of the absurdities of the Democrats' positions..." – Joe Getty [01:30]

• Biden’s Memory & Note Cards:

  • "It said on the card, 'he's a famous actor.' Yes, he is. Thereby making us wonder why you need the card." – Joe Getty [05:59]

• Shutdown Logic:

  • "You can't have it both ways. You can't claim it's really not that important to us... Okay, fine, then let's shut it off." – Jack Armstrong [08:11]

• AI Satire Exposé:

  • "We need new voters and if we give all these illegal aliens free health care, we might be able to get them on our side so they can vote for us." – (AI voice as Schumer, parody) [21:00]
  • "I was going to praise Schumer for his candor." – Joe Getty [21:27]

• Meta-Satirical Observation:

  • "The funny thing is that that's only like one tick off actual Trump." – Jack Armstrong [27:04]

• Shutdowns are for Show:

  • "These shutdowns are dumb and don't matter. And the last one lasted a month, and you don't even remember it happened." – Jack Armstrong [24:11]

• Jane Goodall’s Impact:

  • "She was the first person to really observe chimpanzees in the wild and how they behave and made some amazing discoveries..." – Joe Getty [17:05]

• On Media Bubbles:

  • "A lot of folks who think some crazy ass, they're probably not bad people, but they're used to looking in...mainstream-ish places for information and what they're getting is just wildly inaccurate." – Joe Getty [35:06]

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

• Political Memes & Satire – 01:08 to 01:54
• Rahm Emanuel & Education/Party Factions – 02:06 to 02:48
• Biden’s Note Cards Discussion – 03:08 to 05:59
• Healthcare Debate & NPR Federal Funding – 06:27 to 09:27
• NPR/Machine Politics Satire – 09:39 to 10:00
• Baseball’s Fastest Pitch Segment – 13:28 to 15:37
• Jane Goodall’s Life & Legacy – 16:00 to 19:25
• AI Voice Parodies – 21:00 to 22:25
• Shutdown Stunt Analysis – 24:11 to 25:24
• Comedic Trump Parodies – 25:42 to 27:04
• Israel-Hamas Update – 29:30 to 31:54
• Media Bubbles and the Charlie Kirk Case – 33:11 to 40:46

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Episode Takeaways

• Satire and AI are blurring lines in political discourse, often leading to misplaced outrage on all sides.
• Government shutdowns are largely symbolic, used for intra-party battles rather than real leverage.
• The media landscape is fractured, with information bubbles leading people (even highly educated ones) to wildly divergent and often factually incorrect beliefs.
• Cultural moments, like sports feats or the passing of figures such as Jane Goodall, offer opportunities for both reflection and humor amidst the political noise.

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Recommended for:
Anyone interested in media criticism, the absurdities of partisan politics, and the roles that humor and satire play in navigating today’s fractured public discourse.

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[End of Summary]

Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

The president's been posting some images of leader Jeffries and Senator Schumer. I saw recently you've said that you're interested in good faith negotiations with these leaders, but you know, what message does that send? Is it helpful to post pictures of Leader Jeffries in a sombrero if you're trying to have good faith talks with him? Oh, I think it's funny. The president's joking and we're having a good time. You can negotiate in good faith while.

[Joe Getty]

Also poking a little bit of fun at some of the absurdities of the Democrats positions and even, you know, poking some of some fun at the absurdity of the Democrats themselves.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I'll tell Hakeem Jeffries right now, I like, I just like the reporter asking the question, is it helpful to post pictures of Hakeem Jeffries in a sombrero?

[Joe Getty]

What a funny question with that serious voice.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know, exactly.

[Joe Getty]

Negotiate in good faith. Hey, just as an aside, J.D. vance, Rahm Emanuel, that's your 2028 race.

[Jack Armstrong]

Boy, that'll be some good debating right there.

[Joe Getty]

Rom's got an editorial out today in the Wall Street Journal and it's probably other places too in one version or another. In it's about the state of education in America and it's like I co wrote it. Hmm. It's, it's very common sensey moderate Democratty. He's, he's steering hard in that direction. Should be interesting to watch.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I don't, we don't have to go too far down this road right now, but Rahm Emanuel is a Democrat who's got the guts and I think the wisdom to just stiff arm that AOC crowd. I don't care what you think. There aren't enough of you to have an effect on me. And he's.

[Joe Getty]

And your policies don't work. And he has the balls to say it too.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, he just realizes they're, they're not near as big a deal as.

[Joe Getty]

Right. And he is like J.D. vance, a very good verbal swordsman, very skilled. So again, cut off his, plenty of time to look forward to that though.

[Jack Armstrong]

Cut off his finger working at Arby's. That's my favorite part of the RA manual story.

[Joe Getty]

He, he goes full in when he's going to do a job.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Huh.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is getting a fair amount of attention. I suppose we should pile on investigative reporting uncovering that Biden was using note cards with names and photos of Democrats that he knows whenever he was going to do a public event. So it's, it's perfectly common to, you know, I would love if we had, you know, the money to have an advanced team to do this for us. If you're going to walk into a room and there's going to be some people that you don't necessarily know and you got a little card in your hand that says it's Jim Johnson from, you know, home Gardening and his. You met him last year at the Christmas party. And I'd look at that and think, oh yeah, yeah, remember the Christmas party? That was a good time, huh?

[Joe Getty]

And he grew up like four towns away from you. You talked about that last year. That'd be super helpful.

[Jack Armstrong]

So not only did Joe Biden have those cards for people he didn't know, he had them for people he did know, including the name and photo of say, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. That's what it said on the card, actually. What said on the card?

[Joe Getty]

I said, hey Esther, I mean there's people you know, then there's household names, right? How about Barack Obama? Could he recognize him?

[Jack Armstrong]

Five different palm cards, which are hand sized note cards frequently used by politicians for quick reminders or talking points during public events, especially when on the campaign trail, were uncovered amid an investigation of the National Archive documents at something. This had to go into the National Archives because in theory we're supposed to save every shred of paper that a president ever has for anything is supposed to go into their presidential library. And yeah, I'm surprised somebody didn't destroy.

[Joe Getty]

These behind the scenes. I can barely keep up with them. Is this is the best for sure Biden ever. And if you don't like it, have you.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's unclear if Biden actually relied on These cards during the various public events. That doesn't really matter. That doesn't really matter. The fact that his people thought that he needed to. Clinton was among a handful of Americans who received a Presidential Medal of Freedom. And so he was doing that little, you know, get together with all the people lined up, and it had the palm cards for different people that I'm sure he needed the Palm card for. And that makes sense.

[Joe Getty]

Where's Jackie? Jackie, you here? Where's Jackie?

[Jack Armstrong]

But one of that. She was dead. And he had talked with God, sir. And she. He had talked to her husband like a week before or something like that. That story you remember. One of the palm cards obtained reads Presidential Medal of Freedom recipients, and was followed by photos and short biographies of the recipients, including a photo of Hillary Clinton and a short note detailing she was the Secretary of State in the Obama Biden administration.

[Joe Getty]

Huh?

[Jack Armstrong]

It was Secretary of State when you were vice president.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, right, yeah, Hillary. Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Another note card for a recipient included a photo of Hollywood actor Denzel Washington, who also received the awards, saying, he's a famous actor.

[Joe Getty]

It said on the card, yes, he is. Thereby making us wonder why you need the card. You know, speaking of Hillary, it might have been on Brett Bear last night, I can't remember. But they were shown Hillary back in the day angrily stating that government health care money should absolutely not go to illegal immigrants because that'll lure even more people across the border. It's the last thing we ought to do, said the Democrat, who. Whose policies are now unrecognizable.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I don't know if we've had this clip this week. We probably ought to get it. If we didn't. Ro Khanna, congressperson of California, kind of slipped over the weekend on one of the talk shows and basically said, yes, this would allow some taxpayer money to go to health care for illegals, but it's a tiny amount of money in the overall scheme of things. So it's. To make that the hang up is just ridiculous. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Well, okay, so vote in the shutdown, then. Fine.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's a. It's the. It's not the amount of money necessarily. It's the fact that we're doing it and it always. These things always grow. That's the problem.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Well, and the funny part of his argument is that spending the money is no big deal. So why are you. Why is the government shut down? All right, then, Ro. Not spending the money is no big deal either. Right. As well. So what are we doing here?

[Jack Armstrong]

Excellent point.

[Joe Getty]

We all know what's happening. Chuck Schumer is going to get primaried by aoc. So he wants the left to see him. I'm a fighter.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm an 80 year old fighter. Well, anybody who listened to NPR yesterday, speaking of that sort of argument, NPR yesterday, constantly throughout this is the first day in NPR's history that we've had to broadcast without federal funding.

[Joe Getty]

And so blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Blah, blah, blah, blah. And effing who? Exactly. And the argument was always, it's not that much money that we receive. Okay, then don't get it. If it doesn't matter that much, how about we just stop it? Which we did.

[Joe Getty]

What are we talking about?

[Jack Armstrong]

You can't have it both ways. You can't claim it's really not that important to us. So it's not that big a deal. Okay, fine, then let's shut it off.

[Joe Getty]

And it is a disaster that threatens all that is holy that that money has been withheld.

[Jack Armstrong]

But their promos on NPR also included a lot of comments like critics claim NPR is a Partizan news outfit, which NPR says is not true. And we have seen no evidence of.

[Joe Getty]

And like, I stand corrected.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hilarious. Very, very hilarious. And how it's going to be. They're going to lead to layoffs in NPR stations. Ooh. Now you might not know this since not in the radio industry, but the radio industry has been devastated with layoffs over the last, well, 20 years. But they continue year by year by year because of the changing, changing media structure. So the fact that NPR would have to lay off some people, ooh, that really, really hurts. Um, so many people have left radio stations I've worked for in my lifetime to go to NPR because they pay so much more. The, the, the radio station that doesn't need advertisers because they get tax money pays a lot more. How are you support. I'm supposed to open a radio station as a tax paying citizen and compete with the government radio station for talent. That's fantastic.

[Joe Getty]

Right, Right. And they never downsize.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, they never have to downsize.

[Joe Getty]

Their local radio ranch might have gone from 120 employees to 20 in the last decade legitimately. But NPR has to lay off one or two people, conceivably. And they act like it's the apocalypse. Please.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is the first day in NPR's history of broadcasting without federal funding. But we will continue to try to bring you the trut. And then they run all these promos with listeners calling in saying, I'm just glad that there's somebody out there that doesn't have any spin or lies. Someplace I can go to get the real story. You've got to be kidding me.

[Joe Getty]

You fool.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, Absolute fool.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that reminds me. A little later on in the show, really interesting study of media bubbles and what they look like. It's a Charlie Kirk thing. We're going to stand back like Jane Goodall did and observe the chimps in their natural habitat.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Describe their. Their behaviors.

[Jack Armstrong]

Nice job of working in a celebrity death. Although she kind of did what. What I was talking about with Robert Redford. She outlived her. Her peak moment to be to get the. The real, the real good treatment from your dad.

[Joe Getty]

So what? I don't understand that. So what do you suggest she do? Hurl herself off a cliff while she's in her prime? No, but if you get better media.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you live long enough, people don't remember your big moment, which was like in the 80s. Really?

[Joe Getty]

Well, she's pretty big presence on the scene for a long time. Again, this anti Jane Goodall rhetoric. Where does it come from? What did, what, what happened? Did she throw her poo at you or something? Chimp like. I don't understand.

[Jack Armstrong]

Again. When the news broke yesterday, I thought the monkeys finally got to her. But that's not what happened. Boy.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Slide a little card in his hand that says Jill Biden. She's your wife. You Sleep next to her in bed for the last 40 years.

[Joe Getty]

She has a fake degree. People call her doctor for some reason.

[Jack Armstrong]

That other guy, that other guy with the crooked jaw is Hunter Biden. Is your crack addicted son who's caused you many problems throughout the years. Just have this little note card in case you need it. Wow. We got more on the way. Stay here.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Slider from Mason Miller. About as fast as a human being has ever thrown a baseball.

[Joe Getty]

And look, it's not just the velocity. I mean 104 is predict but look at the placement of it. I mean you couldn't walk up there and set it any better than that. 104.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's the fastest pitch of the year in Padres game last night.

[Joe Getty]

And gotta move the mound back. Come on.

[Jack Armstrong]

All the series except for Dodgers have gone to game three winner go home today. That's exciting. Baseball 104. So what I thought was interesting about that, I've never. I have no idea what that would look like standing at the plate. 104 mile an hour fastball. But it looked to me like just observing looked faster than like the 98 mile an hour fastballs. Like it looked faster just watching it on tv.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I wonder, wow, can you even see anything?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, you see it leaves hand and your brain can predict where it's going more or less and you start your swing. But that's again in. In the. I remember talking about this months ago but the number of pitches over 100 mph went from like 7 five years ago to 175. Really? This year Guys are just throwing harder and harder and they're ruining their arms and then getting Tommy John surgery. But yeah, I don't. I don't know where baseball goes. I mean, because at the point, if somebody starts throwing at 110, what are we even doing here? You're gonna have to send guys up to bat with those. You remember that big orange bat that little kids play with?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

The bats are going to be. Have to shape like that to be able to hit a ball or catchers.

[Jack Armstrong]

Refuse to catch the ball. You're killing me.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Numps. Please.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, they're talking on the game last night, and this is getting a little sportsy, but a game last night, the.

[Joe Getty]

Average.

[Jack Armstrong]

National League batting average this year was.245, which is really low historically. Like the pitchers are, you know, are winning the day right now. Your average major league hitter hits.245.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's usually been higher enough. Offense.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, exactly.

[Joe Getty]

Want to hear a charming Jane Goodall tale?

[Jack Armstrong]

That's the monkey lady that died yesterday.

[Joe Getty]

They're apes, Jack. Chimps are apes. But sent along by Mike the attorney from Chicago. I love this. And I remember this happening at the time. Do you remember when the brilliant Far side comic was. Was current and Gary Larson just. Everybody loved the Far side.

[Jack Armstrong]

We sure did. At our house.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Anyway, one of the Far side comics was a lady chimp and a male chimp. And the lady looks at the male chimp and sees a blonde hair on him and says, you've been tramping around with that Jane Goodall, haven't you? Well, and it was hilarious. But the Jane Goodall foundation went ape poo over it. Really? Right. But then she herself weighed in and said, no, that's hilarious. And Gary Larson went to visit her sanctuary and donated to her foundation. Oh, my God. But yeah, yeah, yeah. So organizations in general, bureaucracies are just. They're not nice people, you know, So.

[Jack Armstrong]

I gotta admit, I've never paid attention to the Jane Goodall story. I knew she did something with.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my gosh. I have since I was a little kid.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, good, Then you're the perfect person to ask. I knew she did something with monkeys and then they made a movie about it.

[Joe Getty]

Grapes with. Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Meryl Streep played her in the movie, and that was a really big deal. Gorillas in the Mist. So what. What did Jane Goodall do that made her famous?

[Joe Getty]

She was. And interestingly, she was not a trained scientist. She was an employee of a scientist who wanted some observations and so he sent her and her mom out into the. The mountains of Uganda, or I think it was, or one of your African countries that are, you know, rich with chimps, anyway, just to see if she could observe their behavior in the wild. And so she went out there and camped for weeks and weeks and weeks before she ever encountered any of them. But then finally figured out where they hung out. They slowly but surely got used to her presence. And she was the first person to really observe chimpanzees in the wild and how they behave and made some amazing discoveries. Like got video of a chimp stripping a stick of leaves and then sticking it down into a termite hole. The termites would latch onto it, he'd lift it up and eat them. And until that moment, all scientists have been saying humans are the only animal that crafts and uses tools. Oh, really? Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Well, that is a big breakthrough.

[Joe Getty]

And she showed the way they nurtured their young, informed alliances and rivalries and that sort of thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

And she never got attacked or anything? She. She didn't show up with a different haircut and get ripped to pieces?

[Joe Getty]

Well, no, no, indeed. There were a couple of tense moments in her career. Oh, really? Because those things will rip off your arm. They'll rip off your arm and beat you to death with a bloody stump. Barbaric. It never happened to her.

[Jack Armstrong]

I have a chimp sanctuary near where I live, and I know people that have worked there who. That quit because it was not what they thought it was going to be. It is quite dangerous.

[Joe Getty]

And, you know, I was watching some of the archival footage of her, and with all due respect, in the work she did and everything, there was a teeny, tiny little bit of grizzly man to it. You remember that Timothy Treadway character who thought he was communicating with the. And communing with the grizzlies and lived among them. And there's a documentary about him, and he and his girlfriend ended up getting eaten.

[Jack Armstrong]

She had a little bit of that, you're saying?

[Joe Getty]

No, I. I don't know. She was much more serious and much less crazy. She was very, very serious about studying chimp behavior. But she lived among them and would touch them and they would touch her, and she kind of became an honorary chimp. But thank God nothing bad ever happened.

[Jack Armstrong]

Good Lord. Yeah. Would be a much different story. And she died in her 90s yesterday. And good for her.

[Joe Getty]

You know, some scientists say her presence among them altered their behavior. So it's not a really pristine study, but she did some important work.

[Jack Armstrong]

I doubt that they invented the stick and the stick down the hole to eat termites because she was there though.

[Joe Getty]

Hey, there's a hot blonde chick. Somebody do something clever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, I want to impress her, right? Maybe I'll stick this stick down this hole. Trump just said something funny about the shutdown among other things.

[Joe Getty]

On the way. Armstrong and Getty.

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Look guys, there's no way to sugarcoat it. Nobody likes Democrats anymore.

[Jack Armstrong]

We have no voters left because of.

[Joe Getty]

All of our woke trans bull. Not even black people want to vote for us anym. Even Latinos hate us. So we need new voters and if we give all these illegal aliens free health care, we might be able to get them on our side so they can vote for us.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is not actually Chuck Schumer. That is an AI voice of the Democratic leader of the Senate. And that was not actually Donald Trump in a sombrero behind him playing the trumpet.

[Joe Getty]

I was going to praise Schumer for his candor.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hakeem Jeffries was not actually wearing a sombrero with a big giant black mustache. Also, J.D. vance did not actually say this. Okay, esto is mucho simple. El Democrat Party es mucho retardo. Okay? Mucho retardo. Especially El Hachimo Jeffries.

[Joe Getty]

El Choco Schumer.

[Jack Armstrong]

They are extra retardo. So el Presidente and I cannot negotiate.

[Joe Getty]

With these Democrat retardos.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh wow.

[Joe Getty]

No, no no no no no no no. I don't like that term.

[Jack Armstrong]

Otherwise it was very funny with that just Schumer saying this stuff about the Democrats. And then there's kind of the subtle ish sombrero and mustache and it's grown since then, and it's all subtlety has been lost, and it's just completely out of control now.

[Joe Getty]

Well, and I love that reporter before. Is it helpful to post sombrero pictures when you're attempting to negotiate? Oh, come on.

[Jack Armstrong]

So here's Hakeem Jeffries, the leader of the Democrats in the House. He just reacting to the videos. It's a disgusting video. And we're going to continue to make clear bigotry will get you nowhere. We are fighting to protect the health care of the American people in the face of an unprecedented Republican assault on all the things Medicaid, Medicare. The disgusting video. And here's the reporter thing Joe was mentioning. The president's been posting some images of Leader Jeffries and Senator Schumer recently. You've said that your interest in good news, faith negotiations with these leaders. But you know, what message does that send? Is it helpful to post pictures of Leader Jeffries and sombrero? If you're trying to have an answer.

[Joe Getty]

But yeah, you know what it shows? It shows that we're the party that's got a sense of humor.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Angry all the time.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is it helpful to post pictures of Mr. Jeffries and a sombrero and giant black mustache? Well, a whole bunch of trumps. There's only one trump. While five different trumps play trumpets and giant guitars, implying, some might say, that.

[Joe Getty]

There are multiple Trumps who should run for a third term.

[Jack Armstrong]

If there were multiple trumps, they'd be in a mariachi band. Is that helpful?

[Joe Getty]

My golly. Oh, this is. This is. It's almost kind of fun to watch. Not the really silly part of it, but the effort. Hakeem Jeffries to try to get his civil rights movement. I'm outraged. We're all fighting together, voice going. And he runs out of the flagpole and absolutely no one salutes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I'll say it again. I've said it multiple times. But the fact that the Washington Post editorial board, the people that run the Washington Post, said the Democrats walked into a trap on this one, and then they shouldn't have shut down the government. They should have cobbled together to votes to go with this. So I heard it explained. It's actually pretty good explanation. These. These shutdowns are dumb and don't matter. And the last one lasted a month, and you don't even remember it happened. All right? So quit acting like it's a big deal. But several times this happened last couple of times with Republicans where, like, the Tea Party did this. Like, we're gonna show how hard we're gonna fight. And I was on board with the fighting and everything like that, but you just don't have the leverage or the votes to actually make anything happen. And Ted Cruz did it around Obamacare. He did the law, the really long, what do you call it?

[Joe Getty]

Filibuster.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then they, and also wouldn't go along because they needed his vote to avoid a shutdown and he had no leverage to actually get anything accomplished. And that's what the, the woke progressive end of Democrats are doing. Now, if we're gonna force a shutdown to show how much we fight but we don't actually have the leverage to do anything.

[Joe Getty]

No.

[Jack Armstrong]

And so this has happened a couple of times. And again, nobody, nobody, nobody dies. Nobody even notices it happens, it disappears into the history books. Man, if you ever read that history book, you are bored to death. But speaking of jokes, here's an AI or no, this is a comedian. This is not AI this is a comedian who does a good Trump voice.

[Comedian/Impersonator]

Hola, me fellow americanos. Bienvenidos al Sierra de Schumer. That means welcome to the Schumacher shutdown. We call it the Schumer siesta. Right? It's the Schumer siesta. He put the government on siesta. Crying Chuck and El Hachimo Jefe Jeffries. We used to call him Dallas Door Obama till we realized he's worth far less than a dollar. But they put the government on siesta to give illegal aliens your health care. We're not gonna let it happen. I looked at both of them. I said, we're not gonna let it happen. It's no bueno. I said, it's no bueno. They begged me. They said, but senor Port for more, please give illegal aliens to health care. I said, we're not going to do it. We're never going to do it. It's not going to happen. We're going to end the siesta. We're going to reopen the government, and we will not give in to the demands of Chuck and El Jefe. We're not going to do that. Thank you. God bless you, Diolo Bendiga, and God bless America. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

[Jack Armstrong]

That last part was probably funny, but I don't speak enough Spanish to know what he said.

[Joe Getty]

Ye, I missed that one too.

[Jack Armstrong]

But please, senor. That's pretty funny. The funny thing is that that's only like one tick off actual Trump.

[Joe Getty]

Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean, it's just barely even comedy as opposed to the president actually saying what he was saying. And so Trump said, I kind of, oh, where did. I grabbed it somewhere. I lost it. Trump said something funny, but I can't remember what it was about the Democrats handing him this. He can't believe that they same thing the Washington Post editorial board basically said is he can't believe that the Democrats are allowing him to do this.

[Joe Getty]

And all the leverage, well, in Trump's boy Russell vote, the budget chief is taking advantage of it to try to shrink the government as fast as he possibly can. Whether it holds up or not, nobody's quite sure. But. But it's, it's exactly what Trump and elon Musk and Co. And a lot of conservatives have been wanting to happen. So let it continue. That's fine.

[Jack Armstrong]

I saw there was some thing in the New York Times yesterday. I got the bulletin during the day. You're nervous. Our experts are here to answer your questions about the shutdown. I thought, I'm not nervous. I don't have any questions. I'm perfectly fine. It'll end like I keep saying, this afternoon or Friday night or next Tuesday and nobody will ever think about it ever again.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Israel struck overnight in the Gaza Strip. Killed at least 13 Palestinians according to whoever. According to hospitals. Of course, a lot of hospitals are just Hamas holdouts and they call them a hospital. But anyway, Israel's continuing to blast that area. Gaza, while Hamas is waiting to decide thumbs up or thumbs down on the peace proposal, which the deadline is this weekend. It's Thursday now. Running out of time.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Well, maybe they ought to take a hard look at it and figure it out quick.

[Jack Armstrong]

What do you think's gonna happen?

[Joe Getty]

I still think there are only two choices. One, Hamas says, all right, we'll go along with it and pretends to go along with it and seeks to do what they've always sought to do as hard as they can. Secondly, they just reject it and say we'll fight to the death because they've vowed martyrdom over and over again.

[Jack Armstrong]

So the critics are saying, like I saw this Peter Baker of the New York Times, that this was basically.

[Joe Getty]

You.

[Jack Armstrong]

Know, an all or nothing for Hamas proposal for. From the. Yeah. You see, one side is winning the war and they're gonna win the war no matter what. So they offered to the people that they're about to completely decimate. Here's a way out if you want it, if you don't, we're just gonna continue to do what we're doing. That's the way most wars end.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. So what, like all of them? Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

So they can decide to do what Joe said and you know, they're, they're dead enders. So they might say, you know what, we're going to go ahead and fight to the death because they don't care if they take all the Palestinians with them. Doesn't matter to them. In fact, they think that would be great.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah. In fact, they're going to fight as long as they can and have as many civilians die as possible to hope that the world opinion turns against Israel, because it already has to some extent. So, yeah, that's probably the most likely scenario. But the idea that, you know, the Peter Baker's of the world, and he's a bright enough guy, but my God, you're holding Israel to a standard that has never existed in warfare in the history of the world. You've just invented this special new one for Israel. All right, speaking of that sort of thing, a look from inside the media bubble, specifically around Charlie Kirk, stepping aside from like partisan advocacy. Just looking at it as a scientist, a political scientist. Cool. What an odd moment we find ourselves in.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I just became aware of the term digital dopamine, which I hope to catches on as a phrase. Because that is what's going on with social media and the way everybody's addicted to it and just online. Everything. Anyway, lots of stuff on the way. Stay here.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

How y' all doing? I don't know about you. If your kids are back in school, do you get illnesses running through your house like we do when kids are getting back in school? Man, I don't know. I don't know what you're gonna do about that.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, I think it's damn near universal.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Is it that happened when your kids were in school?

[Joe Getty]

Oh yeah. More colds and that sort of thing. Oh yeah, yeah. Never ending.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because only one of your kids has to be in one classroom with somebody and then he's got it.

[Joe Getty]

Sure. Yep. So speaking of classrooms, I wanted to talk a little bit about media and information bubbles and I was gonna mention that. Well, I, I did mention on the air the other day that a friend of mine has a professional relationship with a person and it would not be appropriate. Friend like called him out and disagree with him on politics. But this person was commenting on the Charlie Kirk assassination and this fella, who my friend identified as a very nice guy and, and quite reasonably bright, just an overall good dude, was 100% convinced that the young man who killed Charlie Kirk was a flag waving MAGA conservative who resented Charlie for not being MAGA enough, he was completely convinced of that. And I'm saving it for a Campus Madness update probably tomorrow. But the head of the association of University Professors, which is tens of thousands of University professors was out the other day saying, oh yeah, absolutely, he was a right wing activist who killed Charlie Kirk. And exactly the same thing. And, and if there's a theme to this, and I've got a couple more like exhibits, it's that a lot of folks who think some crazy ass, they're probably not bad people, but they're used to looking in some fairly normal mainstream ish places for information and what they're getting is just wildly inaccurate.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's interesting. I'm thinking of a couple of people I know who have really warped views of what's going on in the world. It's not because they, they're bad, it's just because of where they go to get their information.

[Joe Getty]

Right. And so. Which is a bad choice. Yeah, yeah. And you got to be a better consumer of news. But maybe the theme, the overall theme is when you run into people who think this crazy stuff, it could well be they've just never heard an alternative explanation. And be nice, be what we on the right tend to be, which is I'll listen to you now if you don't mind. Can you listen to me? Because I haven't heard, you know, how.

[Jack Armstrong]

About if I go with back away slowly and keep my eye on their.

[Joe Getty]

Hands, that'll work too.

[Jack Armstrong]

Some of them seem nuts.

[Joe Getty]

Free Beacon, I mean the major AI platforms which have emerged as significant American news sources, especially for the young, describe Charlie Kirk's assassination as motivated by right wing ideology and downplay left wing violence as quote, exceptionally rare. According to the Free Beacon, when asked to name recent assassination in the U.S. motivated by right wing ideology, multiple chatbots, including ChatGPT, Google's Gemini perplexity, all listed Charlie Kirk's murder as a right wing act of violence.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, obviously Jimmy Kimmel got misled by this. He seemed to actually believe that Gemini's.

[Joe Getty]

Chat bot made the provably false statement that quote, the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk in September of 25 has been identified by researchers as the only fatal right wing terrorist incident in the U.S. during the first half of 2025. And, and they go into some detail. Keep in mind that a recent Free Beacon analysis, we talked about this on the air. Found that Al Jazeera was one of the two most popular sources used by AI chatbots for news about the Israel Hamas war. And there were zero Israel learn leaning sites that were in their top 10. I think it was so garbage in, garbage out. Then you've got Hannah Nicole Jones. Nicole, Hannah Jones, whatever her name is. New York Times, the, the the crazy lady, the racist who came out with a 1619 project, wrote recently that public mourning for Kirk is unsettling. In the wake of Kirk's death, individuals and institutions across the nation moved not just to condemn his killings and political violence, but to venerate him. It was unsettling to see many politicians from across the political spectrum speak with reverence about Kirk. And she went on to describe how he was a man who spread hate. Said black women lack the brain processing power to otherwise be taken seriously, which is a deliberate misquoting of Charlie. And again, that's. That's in the New York Times. Wow. Flamingly, you know, liberal, obviously, but you could be a person serious about getting your information and be completely misled.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, on the same story, but a different version of it, I was talking to somebody yesterday who is completely into this story that that poor kid in Utah is going to be executed for something he didn't do. He was framed. He was a patsy like Lee Harvey Oswald, that the. The FBI planted that gun and they're pinning it on him and it was the Mossad working with our FBI to kill Charlie Kirk killed Charlie Kirk. And they're going to pin it on this kid and this poor kid is going to be executed. And how. I mean, this person was upset that this innocent kid is going to be executed for something he didn't do.

[Joe Getty]

Gotta unplug the Internet.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I think that comes from the Candace Owens crowd.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Yeah, I was just gonna ask that. Yeah. All right, final note on this topic, because Nellie Bowles is so great writing in the free press, and Nelly, the woman of the left. Yes, but why?

[Jack Armstrong]

So, like, why for you and I, is it so obviously he was half crazy, also upset about the trans thing, but he's dating a trans person, blah, blah, blah, suicidal. And I just believe that story. Why do you think you and I are the way we are on that story, which I believe is the accurate version, by the way?

[Joe Getty]

I don't. I don't know, experience the skepticism Gene. I've described before how my three kids all are very different on the skepticism scale. Just, it's got to be inborn to some extent. I don't know. Like, I wish I could help people on the right and left not to fall for what is obvious crap.

[Jack Armstrong]

I have no doubt that what I just laid out there is the truth. Like, no doubt. I'm not even exactly sure why, though.

[Joe Getty]

That what is the truth.

[Jack Armstrong]

That he was a half crazy suicidal kid that was upset about the trans stuff and he did it himself.

[Joe Getty]

Because he's dating a trans person. He's alienating from his family because they were conservatives and. Yeah, yeah. And he spent all of his time online and got radicalized. Yeah, it's absolutely true. Yeah. Anyway, no time to get to Nellie Bowles and her beautiful takedown of yet another writer in the New York Times who suggested that killing Charlie Kirk was just like a Jew in World War II killing a Nazi. What? Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, I don't follow that.

[Joe Getty]

You have to defend yourself.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ah, we got a lot of candles lit here in the control room for the count Count because of the shutdown. We're all dealing with it in our own way, but hope you can stick around.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty. This is an I Heart podcast.