Buoyant AF

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: Buoyant AF

Date: September 29, 2025

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Episode Overview

In "Buoyant AF," hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty deliver their trademark mix of sharp satire, policy skepticism, and cultural observation. The main thrust of this episode centers on government shutdown hysteria, protester bail funds, homelessness, economic trends, and generational divides—all intermixed with irreverent humor and listener-focused banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Government Shutdown Hysteria

Timestamp: 03:51 – 05:41

• Armstrong and Getty open with mockery directed at media coverage of an alleged looming government shutdown.
• They satirize the routine panic that surfaces biannually, arguing "No one is really 'bracing' for a shutdown. It's overblown."
• Quote:
  • Jack Armstrong: "People are not bracing for a government shutdown. This is the most made up story that happens like twice yearly in all of our talk radio career.” (04:30)
  • Joe Getty: “Remember where you were when they announced it or when. I remember it? The relief when it ended.” (04:55)

2. Protester Bail Funds and Crime Incentives

Timestamp: 05:41 – 15:57

• Main segment explores radical protest activity, focusing on Microsoft employees protesting the company’s Israel-related work, and the existence of bail funds (notably the Northwest Community Bail Fund, NCBF) that quickly bail out arrestees from left-leaning protests.
• Armstrong and Getty express alarm at the lack of negative consequences for activists engaging in criminal acts, outlining how NCBF’s leadership includes those convicted of serious violent crimes.
• The fund’s political connections (such as support from the Tides Center) and its prioritization for certain demographic groups is also critiqued.
• Quotes:
  • Joe Getty: “So all in all, they kind of felt like, like heroes.” (09:34)
  • Jack Armstrong: “If protesters for lefty causes just absolutely know they're going to get bailed out right away…and there’d be lawyers there to fight for them.” (09:44)
  • Joe Getty: "Some arrestees freed by the bail fund have gone on to face charges for grisly murders.” (12:09)
• The hosts contemplate policy solutions, landing primarily on the importance of DA elections and public awareness, but voice pessimism about rapid change.

3. Life on the Streets: Homelessness in Portland

Timestamp: 19:44 – 20:33

• The hosts play a candid street interview with a homeless woman in Portland describing life as easy and resource-rich for those who just want to party.
• Both are struck by her honesty, which they suggest complicates progressive narratives about homelessness.
• Quotes:
  • Homeless Interviewee: “It’s a piece of cake really...they feed you three meals a day. You don't have to do but stay in your tent or party or if you smoke a lot of dope, you can do that…That's all you do all day long, every day. I’m being honest.” (19:51)

4. Smart Appliance Backlash

Timestamp: 22:39 – 24:06

• Armstrong & Getty riff on the universal frustration with “smart” appliances, lamenting intrusive software updates on washing machines and thermostats.
• Quotes:
  • Jack Armstrong: "When you go to your washing machine and try to do a load of laundry and it says you need to update the software, it makes you want to smash it with a hammer." (23:07)
  • Joe Getty: “[My dad would say] What are you talking about? We wanted it to be 77 degrees. We set it on 77.” (23:32)

5. The Economy: Buoyancy and the Middle Class Squeeze

Timestamp: 24:23 – 33:53

• Armstrong discusses economic news: store closures (Starbucks), consumer spending patterns, and the alarming decline in middle class confidence as measured by the Michigan Index.
• The hosts note the impact of rising economic anxiety on the middle and lower class, the swelling role of the top 10% in consumer spending, and recurring stock market corrections.
• Quotes:
  • Jack Armstrong: “While the wealthy prosper, middle class Americans increasingly feel the pinch. …The [Michigan] Index…collapsed. It’s down to 55.” (30:09)
  • Joe Getty: “Doesn’t everything just feel a little precarious?” (32:33)
  • Jack Armstrong: “They have buoyant sentiments.” (32:01, referring to higher-income Americans, tongue-in-cheek)

6. Suicide and Public Tragedies

Timestamp: 27:15 – 28:07

• The hosts briefly reflect on mass shootings, describing research suggesting many are suicides tied to a “contagion” of seeking spectacle.
• Quotes:
  • Jack Armstrong: “It’s suicides. …the contagion right now is you have to do it in a spectacular way.” (27:36)
  • Joe Getty: “They want their suicide to be noticed…They know how to buy that with other bodies.” (28:07)

7. Language: Semicolons, Stereotypes, and Social Rules

Timestamp: 28:17 – 39:11

• They riff humorously on the semicolon's relevance and proper use in writing, including a dig at pretentiousness.
• The discussion pivots: Armstrong remarks on societal taboos against acknowledging negative traits in ethnic or social groups, pointing out that "woke" rhetoric sometimes replaces individualism with group stereotypes.
• Quotes:
  • Jack Armstrong (on semicolons): “Kurt Vonnegut says you only use it to show you’ve been to college. That’s pretty funny.” (29:06)

8. Ryder Cup, Parenting, and Generational Rites

Timestamp: 34:16 – 37:41

• Brief coverage of breaking news: Netanyahu’s apology to Qatar after a military incident; musings about Trump as a mediator.
• The hosts then swap stories about teaching their sons to drive and the oddities of “student driver” bumper stickers.
• Quotes:
  • Joe Getty: “If I'm on a city thoroughfare…and somebody’s going the speed limit and I say, patience, please, student driver.” (37:06)

9. Golf Heckling, Decorum, and Media Evolution

Timestamp: 44:32 – 46:52

• Entertaining discussion of heckling at the Ryder Cup and debate over whether golf might become more rowdy like other sports.
• Quotes:
  • Joe Getty: “Even as a guy who appreciates sportsmanship and decorum, I’d be just fine with golf fans behaving like all fans always have.” (45:44)

10. Final Thoughts & Crew Check-Ins

Timestamp: 47:11 – 48:47

• Quick-fire final thoughts from the crew: pop culture references, car sticker jokes, food recalls, and sports banter.
• Quote:
  • Jack Armstrong: “Aren’t you precious that you don’t want a chunk of wood in your corn dog.” (48:04)

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Notable Quotes (w/ Attributions & Timestamps)

• "People are not bracing for a government shutdown. This is the most made up story that happens like twice yearly in all of our talk radio career."
  —Jack Armstrong, 04:30

• "So all in all, they kind of felt like, like heroes."
  —Joe Getty, 09:34

• "If protesters for lefty causes just absolutely know they're going to get bailed out right away…and there’d be lawyers there to fight for them."
  —Jack Armstrong, 09:44

• "It’s a piece of cake really...they feed you three meals a day. You don't have to do but stay in your tent or party…That's all you do all day long, every day. I’m being honest."
  —Homeless Interviewee, 19:51

• "When you go to your washing machine and try to do a load of laundry and it says you need to update the software, it makes you want to smash it with a hammer."
  —Jack Armstrong, 23:07

• "While the wealthy prosper, middle class Americans increasingly feel the pinch. …The [Michigan] Index…collapsed. It’s down to 55."
  —Jack Armstrong, 30:09

• "They have buoyant sentiments."
  —Jack Armstrong, 32:01

• "Doesn’t everything just feel a little precarious?"
  —Joe Getty, 32:33

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Key Segment Timestamps

• 03:51–05:41: Satirical commentary on government shutdown hype
• 05:41–15:57: Protester bail funds, radical activism, and crime incentives
• 19:44–20:33: Interview w/ Portland homeless woman
• 22:39–24:06: Smart appliance backlash
• 24:23–33:53: Consumer spending & economic sentiment
• 27:15–28:07: Suicide and mass shootings as spectacle
• 28:17–39:11: Semicolons, stereotypes, and social discussion
• 44:32–46:52: Golf heckling, decorum, and shifting sports culture
• 47:11–48:47: Crew final thoughts, pop culture, and humor

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Tone and Style

As always, Armstrong & Getty mix biting commentary with accessible, often irreverent humor. The hosts openly question media narrative construction, challenge political and social orthodoxy, share relatable slices of real life, and occasionally push boundaries in ways both humorous and thought-provoking.

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This episode provides a brisk, satirical tour of American anxiety (economic, social, political), always bringing the discussion back to the individual listener’s everyday reality—with plenty of laughs and banter along the way.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and get Yet.

Americans bracing for a government shutdown.

The deadline looming.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, they're not.

[Joe Getty]

The top four congressional to meet with.

Trump at the White House.

[Jack Armstrong]

What else do you do in your personal life that I should be disgusted by? You lying liar. Americans are bracing for a government shutdown. Do you know anyone who's currently bracing for a government shutdown? I do not.

[Joe Getty]

The Washington Monument is going to be knocked down. The Navy turned into scrap iron. And oh, I had another good one that I thought of. I can't remember what it was I.

[Jack Armstrong]

Liked your they're going to sand down Mount Rushmore, right?

[Joe Getty]

Sand it flat as part of the government shutdown. Yep. Fill in the Grand Canyon.

[Jack Armstrong]

People are not bracing for a government shutdown. This is the most made up story that happens like twice yearly in all of our talk radio career. The media and politicians act like it's a huge deal. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it does for like an hour or two. Nobody notices. It moves on and you never remember it. Look, look, think about the shutdowns of the past. There were like three last year. Or zero.

[Joe Getty]

Remember where you were when they announced it or when I remember it?

[Jack Armstrong]

The relief. The relief when it ended.

[Joe Getty]

The Statue of Liberty is going to be forced to turn to prostitution as her federal funding has ended because of the government shutdown.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Pod Meats World Host]

My wife and I are going to Yosemite today before they rope it off.

[Jack Armstrong]

There you go. Good idea.

[Joe Getty]

They're going to shoot all the deer dead because of the government shutdown. Nobody can enjoy the deer cavorting through Yosemite because of the government shutdown.

[Jack Armstrong]

Americans bracing for a government shut. No they're not.

[Joe Getty]

God, that is so funny in a way. That chick with a straight face said that Play that again, Michael.

[Jack Armstrong]

Eat.

[Joe Getty]

Americans bracing for a government shutdown.

[Jack Armstrong]

The deadline. No, they're not.

[Joe Getty]

That's fine.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's. That's.

[Joe Getty]

That's.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, no.

[Joe Getty]

What? That's. That's such a. I realize this is so inside baseball, but what is going on in the heads of the people who write that line, who. Who read it off the teleprompter? The cameraman videoing a woman saying those words? I mean, how do you see your job exactly? Wow. Funny. So I mentioned this headline that we didn't have time for it at the end of last hour. Uh, but let's plunge ahead. First of all, I enjoy the skill of the headline. Anti Israel Microsoft Employees arrested for Storming President's office. Partner with Bail fund led by Murderer who Bashed Man's skull with hammer. So if you're gonna run a society, you have incentives and disincentives, right? For good behavior and bad behavior. The obvious being, you know, you work hard, you're smart, you get a salary, awards, whatever. Bad behavior, you get fines or you get jailed or whatever. Now, if I'm a radical and I want to, like, bring down society, and all my peeps are saying, you know what the problem is? There are negative reinforcements for bringing down this society. If you're, like, a dedicated Marxist, what do you do? You remove those negative reinforcements, somehow you take away all the pain. And here's how this works. You may remember this happened a couple of weeks ago. It's not breaking news exactly, but the process, I think, is interesting. So that group of current and former Microsoft employees got arrested because they stormed the office of the company's president and spent a few. And were chanting and yelling and. And spraying red paint and dumping buckets of fake blood and writing slogans and stuff like that. Well, they spent just a few hours in jail, even though they were charged with all sorts of stuff, thanks to the Northwest Community Bail Fund, a group that uses democratic dark money to free criminals convicted of violent crimes. The Microsoft group that called themselves. No, Azure for Apartheid. I think that's one of their software packages. Now, Azure, I don't know. Has recently spearheaded a number of illegal demonstrations targeting the company's work with the Israeli government. Seven of its members were arrested last week, this actually two weeks ago now, for storming Microsoft President Brad Smith's office, setting up barricades, clashing with police, and all the other crap I mentioned. 20 were arrested the week before for establishing an encampment at the company's headquarters and deface. Defacing the Microsoft sign. There In Courtyard. You may remember that in both cases the group called on its followers to donate to the the ncbf. Again, that's the Northwest Community Bail Fund, their Protester Liberation Fund to support those arrested. And in both cases, arrestees were swiftly released from ill, from jail, rather bailed out and somebody else paid for it. So they personally were only inconvenienced for a couple of hours, but were lifted up by the accolades and the praise of their peers. So all in all, they kind of felt like, like heroes. I'm looking at some of the fundraising posters now scrolling through. The partnership reflects the growing role that bail funds like the NCBF are playing in supporting the illegal actions of anti Israel agitators and other hardcore leftist agitators. A similar organization, the Community Justice Exchange, provided bail money and legal support to scores of Free Palestine protesters who blocked major airports, highways and bridges in dozens of U.S. cities last year. According to the Washington Free Beacon, the NCBF itself helped free 46 anti Israel agitators arrested for blockading traffic in the SeaTac airport. And its Protester Liberation Fund explicitly goes toward, quote, posting bail for protesters.

[Jack Armstrong]

This could work.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, it does work. It works really well.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean like really work over time. If protesters for lefty causes just absolutely know they're going to get bailed out right away and if any charges ever come forward, which they don't, but if they ever did, there'd be lawyers there to fight for them.

[Joe Getty]

Well, and imagine as a society or you know, contemplate that as a society, we have these negative repercussions and the people who are supposed to be feeling them are laughing and high fiving, right? Because they don't feel them. So the NCBAF launched in 2016, but it really wasn't much until the Georgia George Floyd thing in 2020. It raised nearly $6 million that year. A year later it received a quarter million dollars from the Tides Center. Maybe you've heard of a dark money network that funnels hundreds of millions of dollars to left wing organizations each year. Away from its affiliation with the naa, it is known for releasing and at least in one case employing heinous criminals. The NCBF executive director Cyril Walrond, described as a, quote, committed anti racist community organizer and advocate for racial and social justice. Spent nearly 20 years in prison following a murder conviction in 2007. This Wall Ron guy who runs the NCBF, armed with a Sheetrock hammer, attempted to rob a Vietnamese immigrant outside of that man's home. When the immigrant named Dian Hyun tried to flee Walrond chased him down and struck him on the head with a hammer four or five times, killing him.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Getty]

Walron's co conspirators then robbed the Vietnamese fellow, who died two days later, while Ron, at age 17, pleaded guilty to first degree murder, first degree assault, and first degree robbery. Now, nearly 20 years later, his organization provides bail to arrestees regardless of the crimes they're accused of, although it does prioritize black indigenous people of color and LGBTQIA plus people, particularly transgender community members. What do we do about this?

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know. I'm trying to think of. I don't think there's anything legally you can do politically.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know. They've got a hell of a crack record. Track record, too. Some arrestees freed by the bail fund have gone on to face charges for grisly murders. In 2022, the group provided Seattle homeless man Michael Sedeo with bail as he forced faced 4th degree assault and 2nd degree robbery charges. Less than a month later, he stabbed a man 18 times at a local homeless encampment and killed him. Convicted of second degree murder with a deadly weapon.

[Jack Armstrong]

Remember Kamala while she was. Was she vice president at the time or not? She was in favor of bailing out George Floyd protesters, correct?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. She actually raised money for that. Yeah. Here's a guy had first degree unlawful possession of a firearm, possession of a stolen vehicle, attempting to load police and other charges. Group put up bail to get him out after an unlawful firearm possession a year later. So they posted $10,000 to free him once and then a lesser amount for the firearms possession later in the year. The next year, then in May, he broke into the home of Damon Allen, a father of six, and an attempted burglary, fired several shots at him, knocking to the ground, before standing over him and shooting him at near point blank range, essentially executing Mr. Allen. There are more examples, but I think you've gotten the idea.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Is there a remedy for. If you have a couple of billionaires who are Marxist left wing nutjobs and decide to make it their mission to. To bail out anybody who's on their side of politics, is there a way to combat that? I don't know if there is.

[Joe Getty]

The naa, this other group that does this posted a video to Instagram when they bailed out the Microsoft goons. Captioned the worker. Intifada remains undeterred. Organize, disrupt, escalate. The people united will never be defeated.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's horrifying.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. If you can put aside the horror for a moment, the question returns to what you were just considering. What do you do about this? We've raised millions of dollars to make sure nobody feels any negative repercussions from breaking the law.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because you can't like, raise money to put them back in. It doesn't work that way, so.

[Joe Getty]

Or advocate, you know, severe beatings. So, okay, you've been bailed out, but now you have a broken jaw. I mean, that's horrible. Obviously that's against everything we stand for.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. I think the only actual remedy is to make people aware of it and have them vote in DA elections.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, but that's a slow process though. But you can still bail somebody out, no matter the D A. Now the D A might be more aggressive at bringing charges and making them stick. That would be a really good thing. And we can do that. You're right. But a giant fund to make sure you never feel the repercussions of breaking the law. What do we do?

[Jack Armstrong]

And it makes sense why you see so many groups shutting down bridges or freeways or whatever in the name of this or that because they know they're going to be bailed out.

[Joe Getty]

I'm going to deface a priceless work of art or ruin it. Okay, well, Your bail is $5,000 and your fine is $20,000. Fine. I don't care. A NCBF total is 25,000. Yep. Scratch out a check. There you go. And I'm off to the next art art museum. Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anybody got an idea how you combat this? This is a troubling one. All right. That's a good story. Don't. Terrible story, but interesting story. A lot on the way. Stay here.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Here is a woman explaining how easy it is to be homeless on the streets in Portland. What's it like being homeless in Portland?

[Homeless Interviewee]

It's a piece of cake really. I mean, that's why you probably got so many out here because they feed you three meals a day. You don't have to do but stay in your tent or party or if you smoke a lot of dope, you can do that. What else? What else, Melissa? What else? I say I'm being interviewed. Yeah, that's really it. It's like you wake up, you go eat a blanket, get high, go eat a plante for lunch, get high, go eat dinner, get high. And that's all you do all day long, every day. I'm being honest.

[Jack Armstrong]

I appreciate the honesty. Yeah, it doesn't feel like that's really helping anybody.

[Homeless Interviewee]

It's not. That's why you see all the tents.

[Joe Getty]

Well, that's encouraging, Jack. A myth.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's encouraging. If you got up and went to work today, isn't it?

[Joe Getty]

Got to bring that clip back for tomorrow. We got to play that like three times an hour every single hour.

[Jack Armstrong]

Little economic news for you about a variety of things. Mentioned last week that Starbucks is cutting a bunch of jobs, closing hundreds of locations. They're cutting 900 jobs in North America. Here's a number that every story should have included as they're going to close several hundred stores. How many Starbucks locations are there you in the United States? 17,230. I feel like that number needs to be included in the story. When you talk about closing a couple hundred, big deal. There are 17,000 Starbucks.

[Joe Getty]

They saw a little fat, they trimmed it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Different thing.

[Joe Getty]

Here's a question. How do people not get the homeless gal, what she was saying and the takeaway from that, how do you not get that? I'm honestly mystified.

[Jack Armstrong]

People on the left side of politics, I figured this out years ago and it can't be argued off this point. The difference between liberals and conservatives as far as I can tell is liberals assume everyone is doing their best at all times. They're really trying. They can't imagine anybody taking advantage of A system or stealing or, you know, not working very hard if you. If you get.

[Joe Getty]

Unless it's justified for some reason.

[Jack Armstrong]

Everybody tries their hardest all the time to do the right thing. If they don't, it's because somebody forced them to steal or lie or not work hard or right.

[Joe Getty]

The only bad results are because you got cheated.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

So you don't want to acknowledge that woman's making each a bad choice that takes advantage of society.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. All right, enough of my musings. You were saying something.

[Jack Armstrong]

Consumers do not like smart appliances. I know I don't. This is according to a poll and a. This is not surprising to me at all. A woman talking about USA Today seems to be somewhat surprised by it that the average person wants to. When they switch on their washing machine, for instance, you pour a little detergent in the top tray and then you set it to cold or hot and you want to spin it really fast or kind of fast or whatever. Then you close the door and press a button. You just. That's it. That's all you want. And when you go to your washing machine and try to do a load of laundry and it says you need to update the software, it makes you want to smash it with a hammer, then set it on fire and then bury it.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. May I?

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't need to update the software. I don't want to have to. I don't want any software in my washing machine. I just want to turn it on and have it washed clothes.

[Joe Getty]

I gotta call my dad and say, hey, dad, tell me about all the times you had to mess with the thermostat in the house. He'd be like, what are you talking about? We wanted it to be 77 degrees. We set it on 77.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, no, no.

[Joe Getty]

Tell me about all the times you had to reset it or swap out the batteries or update the software or call the service company to come because the. Your smart thermostat died again. And just to show up at your damn house, it cost you 139or whatever it was. Tell me about that, dad. And he'd say again, what are you talking about?

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't need software in my toaster. I just want to toast. But I didn't get to the big economic story, which we've been seeing coming for a while. Everybody but the top 10% kind of struggling a bit. And I've got some stats to back that up that are pretty interesting.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Spending a lot of time on two of the horrifying shootings, killings, things that happened around the country over the weekend. But I want to repeat this often enough that everybody hears it at some point because I think it is dead on. Correct. The the studies have shown that a lot of this, it's suicides. It's just. It's people who want to commit suicide. But for whatever reason, the contagion right now is you have to do it in a spectacular way. People used to just kill themselves and jump off a bridge alone or kill themselves in their garage or whatever. Now you have to do it in a spectacular fashion. Because when they do the research, they find out the person has been suicidal for a long time. They just recently decided to pick. Pick a venue, a choice, an issue, a cause to tie the suicide to, to make it seem more, I don't know, important.

[Joe Getty]

Well, they want their suicide to be noticed and, and lamented, grieved over. They know how to buy that with other bodies.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know what we do to stop that contagion, but I do think that is what is going on. Is the semicolon dying opinion split on relevance. Let's see front page USA Today story. The writer Kurt Vonnegut, who I'm a big fan of, said that the semicolon said of the semicolon, it's showy. It's chiefly used to show you've been to College. More than 2/3 of young Americans say they know how to use it. About the same number test prove actually don't. That's pretty funny. Two thirds of people say they know how to use a seven column. Two thirds actually don't. Kurt Vonnegut says you only use it to show you've been to college. That's pretty funny.

[Joe Getty]

You know what? I actually use it semi frequently. It to me takes the same role. Has the same role as like. Well, I've heard it described as a soft period, stronger than a comma, but not quite the full stop of a period. I have a big meeting tomorrow, semicolon. I need to prepare tonight.

[Jack Armstrong]

Less cramping.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, you're an idiot.

[Jack Armstrong]

So my dot, dot, dot, which I'm a big fan of is basically using a semicolon. Yeah, okay.

[Joe Getty]

I think so.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's fantastic. So I did want to talk about this. This is actually important. So the stat from a week or so ago really got my attention. Consumer spending Is doing okay, pretty good, hanging in there. Because when consumer spending goes, the economy collapses because two thirds of our economy is consumer spending. But right now half of consumer spending is just the top 10%. So the burden of consumer spending is being is on a small number of people.

[Joe Getty]

I find myself wondering what's the usual percentage that the top 10% actually they have more money.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, I actually had that and I don't remember what it was, but it was significantly significant change. Okay, because I wondered that too. I'll have to look that stat up because that is important to the whole thing. But so this news out of that is not that surprising. While the wealthy prosper, middle class Americans increasingly feel the pinch. There is something called the Michigan Index, which I've heard before whenever you get into this topic. It's a common and well respected consumer sentiment gauge that factors in a bunch of different things. The Michigan Index, anyway, consumer sentiment was at 70 not that long ago. In the summer it collapsed. It's down to 55. Where the number 100 signals neutral feelings on the economy. When you're at 100, you're just like, yeah, it's okay, it's not great, it's not bad. I don't know, below that you're, you're mostly negative. But it went from 70, which was already somewhat negative, to 55 for the middle class. Economic anxiety is running particularly strong among lower and middle income consumers. And they're. And it fell off a cliff this summer. Higher income Americans and for this study they're calling anybody that makes more than a hundred thousand a year. You make $101,000 a year in the Bay Area. You do not consider yourself a higher income individual.

[Joe Getty]

Probably.

[Jack Armstrong]

They have buoyant sentiments.

[Joe Getty]

I rarely describe myself as, hey Joe, how you doing? Buoyant.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm gonna start doing that more often.

[Joe Getty]

You should.

[Jack Armstrong]

How's it going? Buoyant.

[Joe Getty]

Af.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'll say. But in June, middle class confidence gave out and the index went down a lot. And this concerns economists. Of course. Everything concerns economists and they disagree on everything. But that doesn't surprise me really. Things are still expensive.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, well. And as I've said before, doesn't everything just feel a little precarious?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, yes it does. Well, if you, if you're, you know, you follow the stock market at all my life experiences when it's setting records, like every other day there's a correction coming. And like my dad who's been retired for quite some time says I've lost everything. I've half of everything I'VE got like three times since I retired. I mean, it happens now and then where you get the big correction.

[Joe Getty]

And the correction isn't going to be like the gentle parenting craze. It's going to be more like an angry Catholic school nun in 1950. Okay? The the ruler is going to come down with a resounding smack.

[Jack Armstrong]

God dang it. Have y' all looked at your 401k? I rarely do. I just had to for some form. The other day I looked at my phone, kind of like, holy crap. I suppose I shouldn't have been surprised with the stock market constantly setting records and it's pretty tied into that. But yeah, should I be a hardcore.

[Joe Getty]

Long term investor guy? If you miss the drop by a day and the rally by a day, you will lose out on an enormous amount of wealth.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

That's why you just ride it out. On the other hand, I look at what's going on right now and I think, oh, God, cash out, cash out. Just cash out now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Cash out.

[Joe Getty]

Buy gold bars or Bitcoin or Dogecoin or GameStop stock. Is that still going on? I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Gold bars? Yeah. Maybe that's the answer. This is breaking news. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu spoke on the phone with the Prime Minister of Qatar and apologized for violating Qatar's sovereignty in the strike on Doha and expressed regret for the killing of a Qatari security guard while they were taking out the various Hamas leaders.

[Joe Getty]

There, see, everybody's fine now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Netanyahu is sitting with the president as right as we are. I wonder if that was that part of the deal. Trump said, you got to call and apologize. Tell him you're sorry. No, tell him you're sorry and mean it.

[Joe Getty]

Someday I wish they would release the Trump Netanyahu tapes like they did the Nixon tapes. I don't know if there are tapes, but, you know, like after the Qatari attack, the word was Trump just lit him up. He yelled at him. But then they subsequently, whether it was a couple hours later the next day, had a very good, calm, productive chat. So they've obviously got a couple of alpha male, hot tempered, yelling at each other. You know, a relationship, I'd love to hear it someday or just read the transcripts, but I don't know if that'll ever happen.

[Jack Armstrong]

Semicolon. That would all be amusing.

[Joe Getty]

Agreed. An anti ICE protester in Massachusetts forgot to put her car in park while yelling at agents making an arrest of an illegal alien and her car rolled into a lake and sunk.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's Disappointing.

[Joe Getty]

Tells Fox News it happened in up to Upton, Massachusetts, a small, very blue town in blue Worcester County, 40 miles west of Boston. In a clip, a voice can be heard saying, well, that sucks. Look at that, Lucy. Her car got lost. As the woman's car drifts further into the water.

[Jack Armstrong]

A lesson for all of us. Oh, that reminds me. I was practicing driving with my son yesterday. We were driving around on county highways in his truck as he is coming up on getting his license. And so I took him over to a friend's house and Saturday night and his friend, who is a few months older than him, has his license now, and I saw him pull up and it was just like it was. I'm sure you've had this experience. Just. It was so weird to see this kid that I've known since he was in kindergarten driving a car.

[Joe Getty]

It's like, what the hell? Just seems straight. Sure. This is all right. Is this really. Yeah, Times change.

[Jack Armstrong]

People grow.

[Joe Getty]

Hey, do you guys have a student driver on your.

[Pod Meats World Host]

On your bumper?

[Joe Getty]

A little, son.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, No, I don't. Can you get those? Are you supposed to have those?

[Joe Getty]

I guess.

[Pod Meats World Host]

I mean, I don't.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then. Does it carry any legal weight? Do you get any. You get.

[Joe Getty]

No, it doesn't carry legal weight. But I appreciate it, honestly. If I'm on a city thoroughfare where nobody ever goes the speed limit and somebody's going the speed limit and I say, patience, please, student driver. I see that you're right. Oh, okay. Got it, got it, got it. Yep. I. I won't get up on. Not that I would like dangerously tailgate anyway, but I get it. So. Cool. You're cool. I'll just.

[Jack Armstrong]

I do. I pull around in front of my brake, check them, then I roll coal on them. I do, I do everything. You drive them too for me.

[Joe Getty]

Not rolling coal, but. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

That happened to me just the other day. I was. Was that a weird four way stop situation? And I said, what is that person doing? And Sam said, they got the student driver sticker. And I was like, oh, okay. Yeah, they're trying to figure it out. And yeah, my patience went way, way, way up.

[Joe Getty]

Right. I shouldn't have screamed go, you effing mfer. I just. If I'd seen the sign, I wouldn't have.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, my son, I think, figured out the other day we were having a conversation about a particular group of people that seemed to struggle with driving. Oh.

[Joe Getty]

And I think he came upon this realization.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, no, no, no, no. We. He was. He's very aware of It. He's very aware of the existence of this. And I won't say why, but I think he figured out why. And it's always been a mystery. Why does this particular group of people struggle with driving so much when they seem to excel at other things? I won't. I won't name the group, but I've.

[Joe Getty]

Got a great punchline. But it would end our careers today.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I can't. I can't explain why, but it reminded me of one of the many Armstrong and Getty, I don't know, laws of social physics or whatever things that we've come across over the years. The fact that you can point out the strength of a racial group or ethnic group or whatever, or really any group, you can point out their strengths as divided out from other people, but not weaknesses. And it makes no sense whatsoever that any group could have only positives and no negatives. I mean, that doesn't make sense on any face of it whatsoever. No.

[Joe Getty]

You want another layer of irony? If you were to say, because you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Didn'T say that group has high homeowner, owner. Owner, high homeowner rates less, crime, gets divorced less. But if there's a negative stat, you can't say that out loud or you're in trouble.

[Joe Getty]

Well, so here's the extra load of irony, for instance, can't drive, for instance. And particularly in. Particularly if. If you were to suggest that sort of thing, even a positive. I remember. If you were to suggest that, yeah, Indian kids, you know, they work really hard and they value education. And you weren't even supposed to say that because that reduces the individual to just his group. And that's ugly. That's a stereotype. Even positive stereotypes are racism and wrong. And then the woke crowd came along and took over the left. And they're like, everybody is the stereotype of the race. All white people are evil white supremacists. All black people are victims. There are no individuals. You will not be judged on your individual achievements or efforts or character. You will be painted with the color of your race, period. And that was the left again, but the new left.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I wish I could talk about this more, but I can't. It would end our careers.

[Joe Getty]

And people so weak and stupid that they really, they ought to be at the end of the leash that their dog is holding. People so damn stupid they couldn't recognize what was going on. Fell for it all. And they're thick in our nation's universities and schools and blue towns. Yes, indeed, they believe every word of it. And when the new New Left comes along and utterly contradicts that, but yells at him a little bit. They'll go along with that. Next.

[Jack Armstrong]

The Irish. The Irish can't drive and I don't. I said it out loud. We will finish strong.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Where do you see the business actually heading?

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[Joe Getty]

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[Cynthia Littleton]

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[Jacob Goldstein]

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[Jack Armstrong]

They're in the States, they're in New York City. What do they expect? They know.

[Joe Getty]

Doesn't it cross the line, some of this stuff?

[Jack Armstrong]

Absolutely not.

[Joe Getty]

Did you give some to Rory every.

[Jack Armstrong]

Time he stepped on the first tee box?

[Joe Getty]

Anytime you're away at a Ryder cup.

[Jack Armstrong]

You'Re gonna get chirped a little bit. I think it comes with the territory. I really do. You got poop on your shirt.

[Joe Getty]

Why do you feel the need to.

[Jack Armstrong]

Give him foul language? Abusive him? That. That's the awful reality.

[Joe Getty]

It's a sign of respect. Is it? Love him.

[Jack Armstrong]

Except during these couple days, it's just too damn good.

[Joe Getty]

That's.

[Jack Armstrong]

Was that heckle? You've got poop on your shirt.

[Joe Getty]

That's correct.

[Jack Armstrong]

Jack. Kind of heckle. Is that.

[Joe Getty]

An odd one?

[Jack Armstrong]

Is there any chance that golf devolves, like so many things have to, where the heckling becomes a regular part of it?

[Joe Getty]

Yes. In short, it'll depend where you are in the rules of the tournament. You try that at the Masters, you're out. You are out immediately.

[Jack Armstrong]

But as we're always pointing out these things, at least you know, the broadcast is a. Is a TV show. And the TV show would be more interesting to me if there was heckling.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. I've got to admit, even as a guy who appreciates sportsmanship and decorum, and I'm. I would be just fine with golf fans behaving like all fans always have when the announcers say, boy, things are really getting tense out there, I'd be like, oh, really? Tell me about it. Let's. Let's watch the video. It's kind of exciting in a sick way.

[Jack Armstrong]

I have a little update to the story I brought you about Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu calling up the Prime Minister of Qatar and apologizing for that drone strike. They did it from the Oval Office while he's meeting with Trump.

[Joe Getty]

Wow, that's got a bit of the now call your mother.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes.

[Joe Getty]

We're going to sit here and you're going to call your mother.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. Almost has to be a Have you called an apologize? No, I'm not going to apologize. You're going to look, you're going to call and apologize. No, I'm not. Yes, you are. Get him on the phone.

[Joe Getty]

I'll call him next week.

[Jack Armstrong]

Nope, right now, right there in the Oval Office with Trump sitting there. He had to call and apologize. Sorry. Sorry about that. I shouldn't have done that.

[Joe Getty]

Wrote out a one paragraph apology. I apologize for bombing your country and I'm sorry I hurt that security guard.

[Jack Armstrong]

The end.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Check your clock.

[Pod Meats World Host]

It's time to stop Jack and Joe.

[Joe Getty]

They've gotta go. And if they don't get canned, they'll be back tomorrow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up the day. How about Michelangelo, our technical director, to lead us off? Michael, final thought.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Pod Meats World Host]

Earlier today we did the story about this 6, 7. Everybody saying 6, 7. I realized that I'm officially not with it anymore. I can't follow pop culture. I'm lost.

[Jack Armstrong]

I had never even heard of it in my.

[Joe Getty]

Me neither.

[Jack Armstrong]

My son said, it's so over, it's embarrassing you even brought it up. So I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

Here today, gone today. Could not give a poop on a golfer's shirt. Katie Green, our esteemed newswoman, has a final thought.

[Cynthia Littleton]

Katie, I'm gonna go purchase a student driver sticker and put it on the.

[Joe Getty]

Back of my car as an excuse.

[Pod Meats World Host]

For when I do dumb stuff on the road.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yep. We get more charitable results. Yep.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, why not? Jack, a final thought for us.

[Jack Armstrong]

58 million pounds of corn dogs on a stick have been recalled over wood pieces in the battery. Well, aren't you precious that you don't want a chunk of wood in your corn dog.

[Joe Getty]

I was a kid when we had a meal, we expected gum splinters. It was just part of the deal. My final thought was, though, the Ryder cup got a little ugly and yelling obscenity. Zish. It was one of the most incredible near comebacks in the history of sports. If you had given up after two days as a golf fan, I completely understand. But holy cow, was Sunday nuts.

[Jack Armstrong]

Were you watching it live as it.

[Joe Getty]

Unfolded just behind Lives Gotcha.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four day four hour workday.

[Joe Getty]

So many people. Thanks a little time. Go to armstrongandgetty.com for all the groovy clicks there, the hot links, the swag. Pick up some swag for your favorite AMG fan for Christmas. Don't wait too long.

[Jack Armstrong]

We will see tomorrow tomorrow with all the news of the day and will be plenty.

[Joe Getty]

There always is.

[Jack Armstrong]

See you then. God Bless America. All right, I just got one final question.

[Joe Getty]

Have you been a good little nothing?

[Jack Armstrong]

We said yes you absolutely did.

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And if not, this is the fun part.

[Jack Armstrong]

Lgdp, lgt, lbt. It's a little too much talky doc.

[Joe Getty]

Blah blah blah blah blah blah.

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[Joe Getty]

In Idaho, Andrew Krapus Kraposhetz. Can I say his name on the air?

[Jack Armstrong]

Pretty name. Are you on that high note?

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Where do you see the business actually heading?

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[Joe Getty]

The only constant in Hollywood is change.

[Cynthia Littleton]

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[Jacob Goldstein]

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