Call Me A Fascist! Go Ahead!

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: "Call Me A Fascist! Go Ahead!"

Date: April 3, 2026
Host: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Armstrong & Getty dive into the cultural and philosophical threads shaping Western civilization, with a focus on how Christian ideals underpin modern Western values—even for the non-religious. The hosts explore contemporary “woke” ideology, the nature of fame and its unintended consequences, gender roles, and the influence of Good Friday in Western thought. Taking inspiration from historian Tom Holland's book Dominion, they argue that Christianity’s moral revolution fundamentally altered humanity's view of power, justice, and compassion.

The tone is humorous, irreverent, and occasionally biting, with plenty of candid commentary on political and social topics, notably the Newsom family and debates around gender and parenting.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Good Friday and the Roots of Western Civilization

(Starts ~03:17, Resumes in Depth at 26:14)

• Good Friday’s Significance: Even secular listeners should recognize its importance, argue Jack and Joe, as Christianity has been "the dominant influencer of Western culture for 2,000 years." Tom Holland’s Dominion is cited as a powerful exploration of this theme.
  • Jack Armstrong [03:17]: “It means a lot because it has been the dominant influencer of western culture for 2,000 years … I hope you can stick around even if you’re not religious.”
• Tom Holland’s Thesis: All Westerners—even atheists—are shaped by Christian thought, especially the notion that the weak deserve compassion rather than domination.
  • They discuss how, before Christianity, societies glorified the powerful and marginalized the weak. Jesus’s crucifixion flipped this hierarchy:
  • Jack Armstrong [30:49]: “Nobody would have pulled that up. … That was the belief system of human nature … But the idea … being held up of, here is the weakest, here's the lowest rising up against the most powerful being a symbol of, you know, the downtrodden have reasons to be respected and honored and valued in the same way that the powerful do, which was a completely new notion.”
• American Ideals Flow from Christianity: The Declaration of Independence’s concept that “all men are created equal” is drawn directly from Christian philosophy.
  • Joe Getty [31:55]: “Without that notion, we hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal, could not have been written. Nobody would have ever said that pre-Christianity.”

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2. False Choices: Space Program vs. Social Aid

(06:20–09:20)

• Debate on Funding Priorities: The hosts recount protests from the civil rights movement opposing moon landings as wasteful in the face of poverty. They criticize the “false choice” fallacy of comparing NASA’s budget to social welfare programs, stressing that the U.S. already spends vastly more on the latter:
  • Jack Armstrong [08:20]: "We spend $20 billion on our space program... we spend, and I forget what the number was, 3/4 of a trillion dollars on various aid programs in the United States."
  • Joe Getty [08:54]: "That's why democracy doesn't work. It's never worked. It can't work. We need to restrict voting to landed white..." (Tongue-in-cheek hyperbole, immediately followed by laughter and mock fascism)
  • Jack Armstrong [09:21]: "Call me a fascist. Go ahead, Goose, Step right on out of here."

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3. Parenting, Gender Roles, and “Enlightened” Elites

(09:31–15:16, 41:45–45:00)

• Gavin Newsom’s Wife’s Parenting Approach: Extended discussion about Jennifer Siebel Newsom's progressive, gender-neutral approach to raising children, including changing male protagonists to female in stories and encouraging boys to play with dolls.

  • Jack Armstrong [10:01]: "So if she's reading Tom Sawyer to her kids, does she make it Tina Sawyer so that they know that girls can also make rafts and travel around?"
  • Guest [10:16]: “If I'm reading a book and the protagonist is a male, I just change the he to a she...for my sons in particular, because I want them to see that women can be the center of a story, that women matter, that women are interesting.”
  • Both hosts express skepticism, suggesting it reflects elitist detachment more than genuine enlightenment:
  • Joe Getty [11:38]: “She has no idea what normal people think or do or how we live. She's guessing. ... It's like she took her kids on that zoo trip to the red states so they could see hate and racism and bigotry. It's like, sweetheart, I've lived in the red. It’s fine.”
  • Jack Armstrong [13:15]: “Not a social construct. Nobody told the little...My son when he was 3, only pick up the bulldozers...They just naturally do that because there is a difference between the genders and we're designed a certain way by evolution.”

• Political Baggage & Presidential Prospects: The hosts argue that material from Newsom's wife’s past could become stumbling blocks if he runs for president.

  • Jack Armstrong [14:32]: "There's going to be stuff that she has said on camera, on video, tweeted out, written about over her years that's going to come out if he actually makes it to presidential candidate..."

• Satirical Segment: Later, they pick up the theme with clips and commentary mocking the Newsoms’ self-importance and political naivete.

  • Joe Getty [41:57]: “Hey mom, can we go to Disney World? No, kids. We’re off to shame white people in Alabama.”
  • Jack Armstrong [43:18]: “You’re that. You’re like, you’ve become already the symbol of it.”

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4. The Dark Side of Fame

(19:24–22:56)

• Listener’s Letter (Duggar Family Relations): A listener who personally knew the Duggar and Caldwell families offers insider reflections on the madness and intrusion brought by fame, especially when associated with a reality TV family.
  • Joe Getty [21:39]: "Fame is a curse. The fact that so many people seek it is, well, dumb... Fame is a curse that goes along with being successful at a visible job."
  • The hosts reflect on the way fame warps relationships and exposes families to unwanted attention and psychological stress.

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5. Christianity, Enlightenment, and the “New” Moral View

(26:14–37:38)

• From Caesar to Christ: A recurring motif is the historic shift from ancient admiration of power and conquest (e.g., Julius Caesar) to the veneration of the weak and downtrodden, which they credit to Christian influence.
  • Real-world examples illustrate this point, contrasting ancient and modern Western reactions to brutality.
  • Jack Armstrong [34:02]: "There is no—is there anywhere on earth where you could still do that? Maybe there are some...But maybe there are some places on earth where you would still go out and slaughter the neighborhood village. And because you could do that, you’re held up as...Yeah, that’s awesome. Good for you. Those weak people, they have it coming.”
• Secular & Christian Blending: They note that even critics of traditional Christianity (including “woke” activists) unconsciously operate from Christian moral premises about helping the downtrodden.
  • Jack Armstrong [35:24]: "The woke are Christian whether they know it or not.”
• Warning About Losing These Values: Armstrong & Getty warn that a return to brute might as right is a real historical danger.
  • Joe Getty [37:11]: “I certainly don’t want to offend anybody’s religious beliefs, but I would say the history of mankind would suggest that it’s almost certainly going to be the brutality again unless we defend enlightenment. It needs to be defended. It’s not the—back to a fish doesn’t know what’s wet—it’s not the natural state of mankind, it’s a miracle. Fight for it.”

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6. Humorous Asides & Closing Thoughts

(Throughout, especially final 5 minutes)

• *Final segment includes banter about Easter egg hunts (“Let the little kids get the eggs. Do not knock the little kids over, you’re an adult.” [45:17]), sports fandom, and satirical references to the intersection of politics and parenting.
• Short riff on Hershey’s “Reese’s will soon go back to using chocolate,” provoking comical anxiety about what’s been in their candy.*

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Notable Quotes

• Jack Armstrong [03:17]: “It means a lot because it has been the dominant influencer of western culture for 2,000 years … I hope you can stick around even if you're not religious.”
• Joe Getty [08:54]: “That's why democracy doesn't work. It's never worked. It can't work. We need to restrict voting to landed white…” (mocking bad arguments with satire)
• Guest (Newsom’s wife) [10:16]: “If I'm reading a book and the protagonist is a male, I just change the he to a she... For my sons in particular... I want them to see that women can be the center of a story…”
• Joe Getty [11:38]: “She has no idea what normal people think or do or how we live. She's guessing.”
• Jack Armstrong [13:15]: “There is a difference between the genders and we're designed… by evolution.”
• Joe Getty [21:39]: “Fame is a curse. The fact that so many people seek it is, well, dumb…”
• Jack Armstrong [30:49]: “The downtrodden have reasons to be respected and honored and valued in the same way that the powerful do, which was a completely new notion.”
• Joe Getty [37:11]: “It’s not the natural state of mankind, it’s a miracle. Fight for it.”

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Important Timestamps

• 03:17 – Opening reflections on Good Friday and cultural Christianity.
• 06:20–09:20 – Moon landing, civil rights protests, and “false choice” fallacy in politics.
• 09:31–15:16 – Parenting, gender roles, and criticism of progressive elite parenting.
• 19:24–22:56 – Personal insights on fame from a listener close to the Duggars.
• 26:14–37:38 – Deep dive on Dominion and how Christianity created modern Western values.
• 41:45–45:00 – Satirical discussion of the Newsom family’s influence on politics.
• 45:08–46:48 – Final thoughts: Easter egg hunts, sports, and the call to value decency.

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Tone & Takeaways

The episode blends humor and biting social commentary, often lampooning elite progressivism, but delivers a substantive exploration of how deeply ingrained Christian values are in both political Right and Left. Armstrong & Getty challenge listeners to recognize the historical fragility and importance of compassion, equality, and the defense of the weak, warning that these gains are not guaranteed and must be protected—even as we joke about politics, candy, and sports.

Listeners come away with a clearer understanding of how history, moral philosophy, and day-to-day cultural battles intertwine—along with some good-natured mockery of America’s power couples and the perils of seeking fame.

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

It's a good Friday. What does that mean? It means a lot. Even if you're not what you would call yourself a Christian if, even if you don't, like, identify as a Christian. It means a lot because it has been the dominant influencer of western culture for 2,000 years. And we can talk about that coming up a little bit later. I learned this from Tom Holland in his book Dominion, but super, super interesting. So I hope you can stick around even if you're not religious.

[Joe Getty]

For me, it was a real slap in my forehead and saying, oh, my gosh, how have I not recognized this moment in hearing some of this? Just terrific. I hope you can stay tuned. But first, before we move forward, we must look back fondly at the week that was. It's cow. Clips of the week.

[Jack Armstrong]

Clips of the week.

[Joe Getty]

Guess where we are.

[Jack Armstrong]

Guess who's here.

[Joe Getty]

No.

[Jack Armstrong]

Kings do it.

[Joe Getty]

Communism is gonna win, baby. Is there any decision in particular you disagree with?

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, so I would start.

[Guest or Caller (Gender Roles Discussion)]

I've given our boys dolls. We're recognizing what it is to ultimately deconstruct all these gender roles and ultimately be human.

[Joe Getty]

Weird. Sharon, you know, forgive me. This is embarrassing.

[Jack Armstrong]

We are systematically dismantling the regime's ability to threaten America.

[Joe Getty]

The blunt warning from Iran. Any American troops invading would be set on fire. We're going to bring them back to

[Jack Armstrong]

stone ages where they belong.

[Joe Getty]

President Trump doesn't bluff and he does not back down. You can ask Khomeini about that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Go to the strait and just take it, protect it. This is not our war. We will not be drawn into the conflict.

[Joe Getty]

Justice Jackson notwithstanding. You know, you had sort of Hagen coming along on this. I wouldn't say that because we have cases in front of the court. So. Enough said, Joe. Enough said. Well put.

[Jack Armstrong]

And lift off. The crew of Artemis 2 now bound for the moon.

[Joe Getty]

He'll go deeper into space than any human has ever gone before.

[Jack Armstrong]

We're going back to the moon. That's why.

[Joe Getty]

New questions about Tiger woods future after

[Jack Armstrong]

the 15 time major champion was arrested,

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[Jack Armstrong]

Mr. Woods, get you to hang out down here with us, please.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Now speak

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Good stuff in there. So did you know? I did not know until just two minutes ago when I read this. The civil rights movement protested heavily the moon landing in June of 1969.

[Joe Getty]

Oh yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I did not know this.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I can picture Eldridge Cleaver, was it leading a big protest in Houston.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think this is after Martin Luther King Jr. Had died. If you know your history, because he was killed in April 4th, tomorrow's the anniversary, 1968. This is 1969, June when we landed men on the moon. But Ralph Abernathy, who is one of you know, the closest advisors in right hand man to Martin Luther King Jr. Led a protest with about 500 mostly African American protesters about how we're spending all this money on going to the moon while people are still hungry, etc. Etc.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I wonder if that's what I'm picturing. Yeah. The money should be spent in the cities, not on the moon.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. And there's a number of problems with that. There, there will always be hungry people. So if you're going to go with that sort of logic, he can't ever do anything as long as anybody's hungry. All of these various programs that you want to throw money at to try to eliminate hunger seems to have only increased it in certain segments of society

[Joe Getty]

or made things trained as graft. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then you also have, I saw this yesterday. Somebody was making this sort of argument for present day with the NASA launch of Artemis 2 and all that that the we spend $20 billion on our space program. And somebody wisely pointed out. Yeah, but we spend, and I forget what the number was, 3/4 of a trillion dollars on various aid programs in the United States. I mean it's not even close. I mean it's a drop in the bucket where we're spending on NASA complaint compared to various tax transfers to try to help out people who don't have enough of this or that.

[Joe Getty]

But a lot of people would hear that argument and say, wow. Yeah. So it's both the false choice fallacy and it's just the math ain't right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, the tweet and I don't remember who is from some lefty, well known lefty, the tweet was billions for the space program and pennies for the hungry. And the response by somebody who knows the numbers was, or 20 billion for space program and like three quarters of a trillion for the hungry. But, you know, you do you.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, but that sort of thing works.

[Jack Armstrong]

It works all the time on a lot of people.

[Joe Getty]

That's why democracy doesn't work. It's never worked. It can't work. We need to restrict voting to landed white.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

And every other color, males and females. Anybody with a job, anybody who pays taxes. You gotta pay more in taxes than you get out of it to be allowed to vote.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I.

[Joe Getty]

Call me a fascist. Go ahead, Goose, Step right on out of here.

[Jack Armstrong]

We had a little clip in there of Gavin Newsom's wife talking about how she reads to her kids. If you didn't hear that, we did it earlier in the show.

[Joe Getty]

It's really, really sufferable. Good Lord.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that. That whole point of view.

[Joe Getty]

She changes the male protagonist to female so her children realize that girls can do things too, because it's the Middle ages or even 1950. What are you talking about?

[Jack Armstrong]

So if she's reading Tom Sawyer to her kids, does she make it Tina Sawyer so that they know that girls can also make rafts and travel around

[Joe Getty]

with former slaves, dupe friends into painting their fence. Yeah, go ahead and play the clip, Michael. I have a comment.

[Guest or Caller (Gender Roles Discussion)]

What I've done with both my daughters and my sons is if I'm reading a book and the protagonist is a male, I just change the he to a she and it just normalizes. For my sons in particular, it's not even. I don't even just do it for my girls. I do it for my sons because I want them to see that women can be the center of a story, that women matter, that women are interesting

[Jack Armstrong]

because there are no books, TV shows, movies, anything. Real life where women are the center of the story, just never right. What are you talking about, you crazy person?

[Joe Getty]

Two things I never bring up, like family or children of politicians unless they make them fair game. It's like the rules of cross examination in a courtroom. I fear for those boys and I hope they. They are okay to be constantly hammered with the message that. I mean, the unspoken message is I'm not going to tell you about boys who are heroic or do things or are adventurous because it's much more important that you learn this. There's an unspoken message there. Well, I should give you a couple of paragraphs about, but I'll bet you can guess what I'm.

[Jack Armstrong]

She's doing to her kids what she believes the world is doing to women, but hasn't been for like centuries.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. And then my second thought about it, and I think I said this on just a segment that only goes out around the radio ranch locally. Her deal is, I believe, number one, she's got that progressive, self aggrandizing look how enlightened I am thing 24 7. That's what she gets up in the morning to do is to make herself look enlightened. And secondly, because she operates in the rarefied air of the very, very wealthy Napa Valley typ and the rarefied air of the very, very powerful Sacramento political class. She has no idea what normal people think or do or how we live. She's guessing. She's heard things about how the unwashed masses behave and what they think. The poor, bigoted, you know, racist, woman hating scum. I mean, it's like she took her kids on that zoo trip to the red states so they could see hate and racism and bigotry. It's like, sweetheart, I've lived in the red. It's fine. It's not what you're picturing from your mountaintop in Healdsburg.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, and then she's got. The other clip is her. She gives her boys dolls so that they can learn about nurturing and whatever. And so apparently that's her never having had the experience a lot of us have where if you let like some boys and girls run wild in a room full of toys, the girls pick up the dolls and the boys pick up the dump trucks almost entirely. They just did that.

[Joe Getty]

We gotta deconstruct gender roles, Jack.

[Jack Armstrong]

Not a social construct. Nobody told the little. My. My son when he was 3, only pick up the bulldozers. Boys don't nurture children. All right, now go get the bulldozer. And the opposite to the girls, pick up the doll. Girls only take care of babies. No, they just naturally do that because there is a difference between the genders and were designed a certain way by evolution.

[Joe Getty]

And I threw in go ahead and play with the doll because you'll never be at the center of any adventure or story. I made sure my girls do that. Oh, my God.

[Guest or Caller (Gender Roles Discussion)]

I've given our boys dolls. Even if they tear the head off. I've given them dolls to learn that care and caregiving is not just an activity that's reserved for women, but that it's also an activity that is a responsibility of men.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. She is a dedicated adherent to postmodernism critical theory. She's not nearly as smart as she thinks she is or you are so wildly lacking in insight, dear. You live in a world that the world you imagine is nothing like the world that actually exists.

[Guest or Caller (Gender Roles Discussion)]

That's a great question.

[Joe Getty]

Well, no, no, it was a statement.

[Jack Armstrong]

So as Mark Halpern's always pointing out, there is no scrutiny like running for president scrutiny. I mean you can be governor, you can do all kinds Senator, you can do all kinds of things and people are like looking for the oppo, but it's nothing even close to lake when you're in it for president. There's going to be stuff that she has said on camera, on video, tweeted out, written about over her years that's going to come out if he actually makes it to presidential candidate that he is really going to struggle to deal with. I mean, because this is, this is 50 year old her.

[Joe Getty]

What was 25 year old her saying, honestly, it's impo. It's possible that it was none of this crap because she hadn't been indoctrinated into critical thinking.

[Jack Armstrong]

She might have been a normal person when she was 25.

[Joe Getty]

That's possible. Yeah. Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, we got a lot more on the way. Stay here, Armstrong and Getty

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needed a place in NYC to nap. So I looked up on Reddit where to nap and it was like all these things being like there's one secret room in this library that if you go at these hours, the guards aren't there Until I read the best idea ever. Which I did. I went to the movie theater, paid $15 for a ticket and slept in the recliner seats during the movie. Popped in my earbuds, put on my beanie and I had one of the best naps of my life.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is a great idea. A Reddit site that lets you know all the good places you could nap. It reminds me of the the Seinfeld episode where they are quizzing each other like George Costanza could tell you the closest public restroom. Give Me. Give me a spot, you know, 23rd and 9th, the Barnes and Noble bookstore. You know, just where you go to a public restroom. There need to be, you know, Reddit, things like that.

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That's awesome. Yeah, that is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Where can I take a quick nap?

[Joe Getty]

This is apropos. Nothing. I wanted to squeeze it in. I mentioned it hours ago, but Mike in Missouri, formerly Arkansas, wrote us a really interesting note. We were talking about the Duggars and how that thing kind of fell apart and their problems and child molestation and.

[Jack Armstrong]

Can we reset that briefly? Because I'm not sure I can remember. Weren't they held up as something great by everybody for a while?

[Joe Getty]

Reality show that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, pre reality show, though I think they became famous pre reality show because they had like, what, 18 kids or something. Obviously that gets a lot of attention. And they're supposed to be this just fantastic family that cared so much about this and that. Then there was a reality show, but then we found out there was a pretty ugly underbelly. Is that what happened?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, there's some. Some sickness definitely going on, including Dad, I believe it was. But anyway, let me just read some of this. I have many thoughts on the Duggar news. Since I knew both the Duggars and Caldwell families, the ones involved in the latest scandal. I've been to both of their churches, homes, and was part of the same cultish homeschool group with my kids, but my family never.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that was part of the angle of lifting it up in the beginning, was it was homeschooled, very religious.

[Joe Getty]

And then he says he obviously has no sympathy for some of the bad things that were done, but he has a lot of sympathy for the family in general when it comes to weirdness of fame and media twisting and exploitation of it. And most of them are actually doing quite well, he says, but da, da, da, they're doing far better than I think could be expected based on the weirdness of fame they received as a large family that was selected for a show that made them rock stars overnight to homeschoolers and objects of hate and scorn to a lot of the population. Just the small amount of attention I got from being a Duggar adjacent freaked me out a bit. We rented a home from them that was on the show often that Josh and Anna previously lived in and had randos pretend to run out of gas, come to my door regularly hoping to meet a Duggar, or stand out in the street taking pictures of my kids playing in the yard, even people becoming our friends to fish for Duggar Info to leak to gossip sites about the Duggars. I finally moved us from that house when pictures of my kids were on an anti Duggar website where psychos make threats all the time. You know, I wrote back to Mike, actually. I said it's really interesting and troubling. Fame is a curse. The fact that so many people seek it is, well, dumb. Yeah. Or just they don't think about it or don't get it. Fame is a curse that goes along with being successful at a visible job. I will. I will put that as my. My sentence to be engraved in. In granite.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why do so many people want to be famous? It's just a wanting too much of one level of Maslow's hierarchy of needs. The like belongingness or.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, they want to be celebrated. They want to be admired. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, they just. And it's not dumb. That was a bad choice of words. They haven't reckoned with or haven't heard about the really weird side of fame. And there's a lot of it, not just that stuff, but any Hollywood star, any, you know, sports star would tell you, I'm never sure if I'm actually friends with somebody or they just want to drop my name or they want something from me. You know, among. Among other problems.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's Good Friday, maybe the most important day in the history of Western civilization. Whether you're religious or not. Talk about that Coming up. Stay here. Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

are Christian whether you know it or not. Actually, you're Christian even if you're Muslim or Jewish, even if you're an atheist, according to Tom Holland, who wrote the book Dominion and he is an historian and we talked about this fair amount a couple months ago. He himself, I don't believe, is pretty sure he's not a believer himself, so you don't need to. As Christopher Hitchens used to say, you Read some of these books and they sneak Jesus in through the back door. Like they make all those arguments and all of a sudden they think they gotcha. Now you're. You're stuck believing Jesus as the Savior. That's not what Tom Holland is up to. He's just making the point that the crucifixion of Jesus is so important to Western society in the way that we look at the world, that we all really. The. The main dominating philosophy of Western society is Christian, and it is a Christian philosophy. So that's what happened on this. This is Good Friday. So in case you're for some reason not raised in a way that you would know this, this is the day historically that Jesus was crucified. Then he discovered in an empty tomb Sunday, three days from now. That's Easter Sunday. Sway.

[Joe Getty]

That works. And appeared to his followers. Right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. So what does Tom Holland mean by that? Was the. The big philosophy thing there and he started. Or these, these videos started making the round. This is after aoc. She was over there in Germany at whatever conference thing they had going on there, and she mocked the idea of Western civilization being a thing. And then there's somebody else that made a similar comment or whatever. And the pushback was. Yeah, there is something called Western civilization. And Tom Holland had written this book, Dominion, about specifically how it comes out of the crucifixion. He makes the argument that the cross is the powerful symbol probably in the history of the world for the amount of time that is it endured and had a meaning. And that previous to Jesus and the whole story of the crucifixion, mankind had a very brute. The strong. What is that saying you're always using? The strong do what the they can, the weak do what they must. Or essentially, yeah, strong do whatever they want and the weak do it.

[Joe Getty]

They will. Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

And. And everybody was perfectly okay with that. They just thought that that was everybody's lot in life. That's the way it should be. I always remember because I was confused by this saying from bin Laden. After 9, 11, there was this thing that went around with bin Laden talking about how when two people see. When people see two horses fighting, they root for the strong horse. When they see one horse is winning. And I always thought, no, I don't. And I don't think most people do. That is the Western philosophy in that we tend to. If we see somebody strong brutalizing somebody weak, we're horrified by it. That is a new way to look at the world. Coming out of the crucifixion of Jesus 2000 some years ago in that the crucifixion, crucifying people was a way for the Roman state. And this sort of thing had existed forever and still exists some places in the world. Showing we're in charge. We, the Romans are in charge. We make the rules. And this will. What will happen to you if you disobey the rules. And so they would crucify people, which was an. A horribly painful way to die. And they would.

[Joe Getty]

You were torturing them to death over the course of many hours.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. And they would do it in public and leave those crosses hanging up on the outskirts of all the towns to let everybody know this is what happens if you cross us. And for whatever reason, I guess. I guess just human nature, people were kind of. Well, you know, he had it coming. He was a thief or he was in, you know, whatever the crime was. You went against the Romans. Tom Holland, in his book, he uses the example all the time of Caesar went up north into Europe, slaughtered a million people and came back a hero for having done that. Who would think in the, you know, in the Western civilization, modern era, hold that up as a great thing because you had a more powerful army. You went and slaughtered a million innocent people.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Nobody would have pulled that up. But. But that was. That was the belief system of. Of again, of human nature. You know, see kids. And what bullies will do if somebody doesn't intervene, they'll just take charge and. But the idea. Well, the weak had it coming. The stronger came along. We root for the. We root for the strong horse Caesar in our civilization that has better weapons, and the weak had it come. And they deserve that for being weak. You deserve it for being weak. We've all known people like that who kind of feel like kids that get picked on. Well, they kind of have it coming because they're weak, which is.

[Joe Getty]

They're a little guy. Yeah, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's just a disgusting idea. Well, the whole. The weakest of the week, Jesus being crucified, being. Being resurrected and then being held up of. Here is the weakest, here's the lowest rising up against the most powerful being a symbol of, you know, the downtrodden have reasons to be respected and honored and valued in the same way that the powerful do, which was a completely new notion.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I was going to say, and it's. I happen to come across this from Galatians, that there's neither Jew nor Greek, slave, nor free male nor female when it comes to salvation. And without that notion, we hold these truths to Be self evident that all men are created equal could not have been written. Nobody would have ever said that. Pre Christianity. Tom Holland makes very Christian notion.

[Jack Armstrong]

Tom Holland makes that specific point in his book about the Declaration of Independence. Yeah. And he does a. The historian Tom Holland does a much better job of describing it in the book. If you want to read a thousand page book or just check out any of his YouTube videos, there's a million of them describing this whole philosophy that was brand new upon the world. The idea that the weak should be valued every bit as much as the strong.

[Joe Getty]

Well, and equally American is the notion that Christianity screwed this up over and over again because we're human beings, we screw everything up. But the notion that there is the kingdom of God, then there is the kingdom on earth. The secular should not profane the sacred and the sacred need not worry about the secular. That's obviously a very non Islamic way to look at the world too. But that absolutely informs our constitution and you know, that came straight out of the New Testament. Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's Under God. What is God's.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. And he actually talks a fair amount about Nietzsche and who. Who more or less had the view of the strong get to do what they want and the weak should suffer for being weak that Hitler latched on to with that same sort of belief and just sharing the word of the powerful. And look at the. In whether you're handicapped or whatever your problem is you're weak and you should be dispensed with, which is not the Christian view of things. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Hitler actually thought he had a duty to mankind to do eliminate. Certainly to the German people. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. To eliminate. To strengthen the herd in general.

[Jack Armstrong]

I just, I think that example of Caesar is so interesting. There is no. Is there anywhere on earth where you could still do that? Maybe there are some. I don't know, I don't even want to mention any places. But maybe there are some places on earth where you would still go out and slaughter the neighborhood village. And because you could do that, you're held up as. Yeah, that's awesome. Good for you. Those weak people, they have it coming. That is definitely not a Western Civ way of looking at things yet.

[Joe Getty]

Nigeria right now, yesterday, we would all

[Jack Armstrong]

be horrified by that.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. I don't care what your political cause is. You wiped out the suburb next door. I mean the entire country would turn against that person's cause no matter how good it might be. Yeah, it's horrible.

[Jack Armstrong]

And so Holland says as a historian that that is the dominant philosophy on Earth for a couple thousand years. And we're all. It's kind of like the fish don't know they are wet. That because we're swimming in that Christian view of the weak versus strong and everything like that. We're just so used to it, people. You can be atheists, you can think Christianity is dumb, whatever you want to think, you're still living in a Christian world.

[Joe Getty]

As you've pointed out more than once, it's sometimes atheists who most vehemently espouse the idea that we must help the downtrodden.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It makes that point that the woke are Christian whether they know it or not. And it would probably really make the message that.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Can I end on this note? Horse fights. Horse fights, right.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're. You're putting horses together to fight, which would be like dog fights, same sort of thing. And when you see the big tough dog tearing apart the little dog, you think, yeah, tear that weak one apart. That's a different way of looking at the world.

[Joe Getty]

Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Than we've been doing in Western civilization for a couple thousand years.

[Joe Getty]

And that point of view would be manifest in a very, very different form of government too, of course, which is Islamism, Sharia, which is why I'm so vehemently against it and its incursions into the West.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's interesting to me. I did go to church every Sunday as a kid for many, many, many years. So where I, where the Western civilization philosophy got into me, I don't even know if come through the church. It might could have come through my parents or grandparents or friends or whatever. No, no, no. You don't pick on little kids. That's. That is the weakest thing you could do is to pick on somebody who's weaker than you.

[Joe Getty]

Right. That is, that is an incredible lack of character.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's the opposite of. Look at the tough dog. Destroy the little dog. The little dog had it coming. And I mean, that is a monumental change in philosophy. And that's what today Good Friday symbolizes, according to Tom Holland.

[Joe Getty]

That is a great book.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. It's just, it's, it's so troubling to think that that was the dominant philosopher for so long and could be again if we can't hang on to this.

[Joe Getty]

I certainly don't want to offend anybody's religious beliefs, but I would say the history of mankind would suggest that it's almost certainly going to be the brutality again unless we defend enlightenment. It needs to be defended. It's not the net back to a fish doesn't know what's wet. It's not the natural state of mankind, it's a miracle. Fight for it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, good stuff. We'll finish strong next Armstrong and Getty

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[Jack Armstrong]

Hershey announced that they will soon go back to using chocolate for their Reese's products. This raises way more questions than it answers.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Everyone about to give their kid an

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[Jack Armstrong]

Like, great timing.

[Joe Getty]

What?

[Jack Armstrong]

No kidding.

[Joe Getty]

What.

[Jack Armstrong]

What is our. What is. What is it now? You don't want to know. Apparently not.

[Joe Getty]

Well, it's like cheese whiz or whatever is pasteurized cheese food. I mean, it's. Look, we came up with it in the lab. It looks like chocolate. It tastes more or less like chocolate just to eat it. So go ahead. I was gonna say another humorist, but not making jokes. Greg Gutfeld took on one of our favorite topics lately. The Go Go power couple from California, the Newsoms. Let's hear what he had to say.

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Use their voices to stand up and speak out when they see pain and suffering and bullying and racism and misogyny around them. I am the truth seeker. They need to know the truth.

[Joe Getty]

They need to know the truth. What? That their mom is just as full of as their dad? Hey mom. Hey mom, can we go to Disney World? No, kids. We're off to shame white people in Alabama. These two are not a power couple. They're just a better looking version of Jim and Tammy Faye Baker. Self promoting egotists who game the system by seizing control of it. And the scariest part is this is the best the Dems got.

[Jack Armstrong]

Everybody's latched on to that on the right now his wife.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

That might keep him from running.

[Joe Getty]

It could.

[Jack Armstrong]

And he might not even tell. He might not even be honest with his own wife about why he decides not to run. Because he can say I just decided I didn't want to put the kids through it. Not because I found out there's a lot of stuff you've said over the years I'm gonna have to answer for and ain't gonna be easy.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Yeah. Hey, honey, you know the part of the Democratic Party that 90% of Americans say they hate?

[Jack Armstrong]

You're it.

[Joe Getty]

You're that.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're like, you've become already the symbol of it.

[Joe Getty]

Love you, babe, but yeah, all those things, that's, that's what you say all the time.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're the queen of the part of the party that Bill Maher and others say keeps us from winning elections.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. I wonder, given the, the sexual fever that egomaniacs have for getting to the White House, it could lead you to, you know, we all rationalize things all day long, but I wonder, can he rationalize away having his wife just become a national laughingstock? Think. No, no, no. I'll call them out. I'll say, she's not the candidate, I am. And that'll stop it because he's so, I mean, I often say like a 17 year old is lustful for the gentle touch of a woman. I, I just, I wonder whether he can put aside.

[Jack Armstrong]

That would not work. That would not work. That would not work. I mean, it might work if you had a, a spouse who, you know, had some baggage. But she's not political. She says, right, you know, hey, I'm the president. But she, she is going to be. We're running, you know, as co presidents. She's going to be that.

[Joe Getty]

Well, not only that, but she believes she's on a, whatever the secular equivalent of a sacred mission is. She's on a sacred mission to spread her philosophy to everyone. So she's not gonna want to let him back out. She's gonna be like, no, we're gonna fight for what we believe. Which is woke nonsense. Hey, kids, it's that time again with Armstrong and Gettysburg.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up the day of the week. Michelangelo, lead us off with your final thought.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right, this is for adults that

[Joe Getty]

are going to an Easter egg hunt.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let the little kids get the eggs. Do not knock the little kids over.

[Joe Getty]

You're an adult.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I've seen it with my own eyes.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. They're little Osama bin Laden's, aren't they? The strong horse. Etc. Katie Green, our esteemed newswoman, has a final thought. Katie, I would Love to hear Gavin and Jennifer like in just a slight disagreement going back and forth. Oh boy. And then he would try to make a point. She'd go passive aggressive. Hell is what I'm guessing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Jack, a final thought for us.

[Jack Armstrong]

That was a good reminder. Michael. After all of my Western civilization, Christianity values the weak stuff. Earlier this hour, I was the emcee of a giant Easter egg hunt one time. And watching moms push down little kids to get more candy for their own kid was one of the most horrible things I've ever seen. Oh yeah, it was horrible. Katie. It was a radio promotion. Mom's just like elbowing down little kids so they could get ridiculous amounts of candy. I mean, more than you could ever need in your lifetime.

[Joe Getty]

What how humans actually are. Illustrator I think my final thought is two words. Long go Illini fighting Illini in the Final four. Playing Saturday night. Maybe in the national championship game on Monday. Monday.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Monday. Yeah, Monday. And if they win, that will reflect well on me and make me cooler as an individual.

[Jack Armstrong]

And if they lose, will we get some sort of stupid sports or a stupid waste of time screed? Probably.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

[Joe Getty]

I got a worthless degree from them 40 years ago. So many people. Thanks a little time.

[Jack Armstrong]

Go to armstronggetty.com God Bless America.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty. Just another quick thing as we head out the door. Bill Clinton. I've been working on this. Should have paid less attention to Thong and more attention to Jong Ill. And

[Jack Armstrong]

because it rhymes, it's more powerful.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Bye.

[Joe Getty]

Have a great Friday, you mother. Armstrong and Getty.

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