Camels Eat A Lot Of Fiber

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: Camels Eat A Lot Of Fiber
Date: September 24, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty | Producer: Michael

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the latest headlines dominating U.S. and world affairs, particularly the surprising shifts in the Russia-Ukraine conflict and Trump’s bold stance about Ukraine “getting all its land back.” The hosts also unpack the layers of media coverage, political rhetoric, and First Amendment issues—most notably, the controversy around Jimmy Kimmel’s return to late-night TV. True to their signature style, Armstrong and Getty blend incisive political analysis with irreverent humor, lampooning everything from political grandstanding to the absurdities of modern culture (and even their “studio camel”).

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Russia-Ukraine Crisis & Trump’s Statements (04:41–14:36)

• Trump’s Ukraine Declaration: Jack reacts with shock at media focus on minor stories instead of Trump’s announcement regarding Ukraine. He points out Trump’s statements: “Trump says Ukraine should get all of their land back and vows to help. What? What, what does that mean? Holy crap” (05:00).
• Russian Response & Mockery: Russian officials mock Trump. Michael relays the Kremlin’s spokesman’s quip: “‘Russia is in no way tiger. Still Russia more compared with bear. There are no paper bears. Your face is a paper bear’” (07:08). The hosts riff on “paper bears,” highlighting the propaganda absurdity.
• Peskov, Medvedev, and Russian Media: The hosts review Russia's pointed ridicule, with Michael quoting Medvedev: “He will come back. He always comes back. The main thing is to radically change your point of view ... and everything will be fine. That’s the essence of successful government through social media” (08:27).
• Speculation on Putin’s Motives: They puzzle over why Putin would openly mock Trump, with Michael suggesting: “Either Putin wants to provoke Trump ... or he wants war with NATO and/or a nuclear war.” He adds wryly: “That would suck” (10:38–10:51).
• Western Reactions & Theories: Zack and Michael discuss whether this public taunting is meant to unsettle European allies or further erode Trump’s standing (13:20).

2. Media, Free Speech & Jimmy Kimmel’s Return (20:00–40:34)

• Kimmel’s Return & Public Reaction: Armstrong and Getty react to Jimmy Kimmel’s much-hyped return to TV. Jack, unimpressed, snarks: “He’s a smug A-hole. He just is. Yeah. And he hates you. Unless you’re his politics, he hates you and thinks you’re stupid. So screw him” (28:30).
• Dramatic Kimmel Moment (Not Aired Widely): The hosts highlight the emotional, little-aired moment where Kimmel publicly forgives the man who killed Charlie Kirk, which they believe showed genuine emotion and Christian values (33:34–34:16).
  • Quote: “If you believe in the teachings of Jesus, as I do ... A selfless act of grace, forgiveness from a grieving widow. It touched me deeply.” – Jimmy Kimmel (34:00–34:16, as played by hosts)
• Media Suppression of Non-Narrative Content: They are baffled why this moment isn’t in circulation. Michael observes, “Christianity is evil and white supremacist or something ... every other religion is to be revered ... I think it might be on the progressive left” (35:00).
• First Amendment and Hypocrisy: Michael’s main point: Free speech must be defended universally. He likens defending Kimmel’s rights (despite his politics) to Miranda rights for criminals: “Jimmy Kimmel being an a hole doesn’t matter. ... I agreed with virtually everything Jimmy Kimmel said about the First Amendment last night. Hundred percent. And he’s an a hole” (31:04).
• Administrative Threats & Network Power: Hosts criticize both FCC and presidential threats to media, calling out hypocrisy on both sides. “The FCC Commissioner ought to shut his piehole. Trump ought to stop” (37:47).
• Shift to Streaming & Business Takeaways: The landscape is rapidly changing—networks have less power, streaming rules. Armstrong observes: “They love the ad [revenue from streaming] ... They want you to get your antenna down off the roof and sign up for Hulu Disney. That’s what they want” (40:15).

3. Quick Hits: News Roundup & Quips (20:40–23:45)

• Katie’s Headlines:
  • Trump’s Ukraine/NATO comments
  • Google reinstating accounts banned for political speech
  • Kamala Harris on Biden & her “disastrous” media tour
  • Extremist recruitment on Discord
  • Pregnant liberal women using Tylenol in protest
  • MLB’s new robot umpires for 2026
  • Trend: “Eat more, weigh less”—the bean diet
  • Babylon Bee: Trump “dumbing down” China by inviting them to U.S. universities
• Notable Armstrong & Getty Humor:
  • “The world has become too stupid. I’m checking out. Goodbye, everyone from the association of Nihilists.” – Michael (22:44)
  • Discussion of camels in the studio: “Does the camel eat prunes? What is going on in here? God.” – Jack (16:00)
    “Lot of fiber. Camels eat a lot of fiber.” – Michael (16:06)

4. Listener Mailbag & Final Thoughts (44:58–49:44)

• Legacy and Posterity: Michael shares a quote from Edward Abbey: “Those who have no sense of posterity or any concern for future generations are the ones who are really dead. ... Walking zombies” (44:58).
• Kimmel Sincerity & Contradictions: Listeners debate whether Kimmel’s emotional display was genuine; one notes, “Jimmy Kimmel is a suck up a hole. Nothing he said last night was sincere, but thank you for watching so I didn’t have to” (45:49).
• Putin’s Calculations: Listener suggests Putin seeks to draw China into the conflict for better odds against NATO (47:11).
• Bear Stories & Signoffs: The episode closes out with characteristic absurdism: “If you were a man, you would have ... fought the bear in your underwear ... to save my Coleman cooler” (49:13).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On the Russia-Ukraine Crisis:

• “Trump says Ukraine should get all of their land back and vows to help. What? What, what does that mean? Holy crap.” – Jack Armstrong (05:00)
• “There are no paper bears. Your face is a paper bear.” – Kremlin spokesman as relayed by Michael (07:08)

On Jimmy Kimmel and Free Speech:

• “He’s a smug A-hole. He just is ... He hates you, unless you’re his politics, he hates you and thinks you’re stupid.” – Jack Armstrong (28:30)
• “Jimmy Kimmel being an a hole doesn’t matter ... I agreed with virtually everything Jimmy Kimmel said about the First Amendment last night. Hundred percent. And he’s an a hole.” – Michael (31:04)
• “[Kimmel], a selfless act of grace, forgiveness from a grieving widow. It touched me deeply and I hope it touches many ...” – Jimmy Kimmel clip played by hosts (34:00–34:16)
• “Christianity is ... white supremacist or something ... every other religion is to be revered ... I think it might be on the progressive left.” – Michael (35:00)
• “The FCC Commissioner ought to shut his piehole. Trump ought to stop.” – Michael (37:47)

Media & Cultural Absurdity:

• “Does the camel eat prunes? What is going on in here? God.” – Jack Armstrong (16:00)
• “Lot of fiber. Camels eat a lot of fiber. There is. You would be as regular as him.” – Michael (16:06)
• “The world has become too stupid. I’m checking out. Goodbye, everyone from the association of Nihilists.” – Michael (22:44)

Legacy & Life:

• “Those who have no sense of posterity or any concern for future generations are the ones who are really dead. ... Walking zombies.” – Edward Abbey, quoted by Michael (44:58)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Russia-Ukraine & Trump’s Comments: 04:41–14:36
• Trump-NATO Exchange (actual quote): 15:26–15:56
• Jimmy Kimmel, Media, and Free Speech: 20:00–40:34
• Kimmel’s Dramatic Forgiveness Clip: 33:34–34:16
• Media Landscape Analysis (Broadcast vs. Streaming): 40:15–40:34
• News Headlines Roundup: 20:40–23:45
• Listener Mailbag & Bear Story: 44:58–49:44

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Episode Tone & Style

• Tone: Energetic, irreverent, skeptical, conversational, and occasionally biting. The hosts are unapologetically opinionated and often shift quickly from humor to serious analysis.
• Language: Blunt, colloquial, filled with asides and banter, mixing political insight with offbeat jokes and relatable anecdotes.

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Final Takeaway

This episode underscores Armstrong & Getty’s unique place in talk radio: deeply engaged with politics and media trends, mocking both the left and the right for hypocrisy, and always ready to pivot to comedic or absurdist commentary. If you want a rundown of the day’s biggest (and weirdest) stories with zero reverence for the official narrative, this is your show.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center.

[Joe Getty]

Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Michael]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

From.

[Michael]

Studio C. We're in a dimly lit.

[Jack Armstrong]

Room deep up in the bowels of the Armstrong and Getty Communications compound. It's Wednesday, hump day. So we have a camel in here, which is. Was fun at first, but it's become my least favorite day of the week, having the camel in the studio from the microphones.

[Michael]

I got.

[Jack Armstrong]

I got the business end of a camel in my face, so I'm trying to talk. Oh, boy. Anyway, and today we're under the tutelage of our general manager.

[Michael]

Let's be serious. It's not what's his face back on tv.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Michael]

It's the Kremlin openly defiant and mocking Trump.

[Jack Armstrong]

I am shocked by news outlets that have made the return of what's his face the number one story. When Donald Trump announced yesterday Ukraine's getting all their land back and Russia's saying, no, you ain't. That seems like quite a bit bigger a story to me.

[Michael]

The whole First Amendment angle is super interesting and I want to talk about it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sure. Of course.

[Michael]

On the other hand, old what's his face and his travails will be forgotten soon. Very soon.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Michael]

Whereas the warfare in Europe, NATO's involvement, Putin's real goals, whatever they are, etcetera, they will echo through history.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think you could see the look on Zelinsky's face. He was. He seemed to be thinking what a lot of people. When I saw the headline come across my. The alert come across my phone. Trump says Ukraine should get all of their land back and vows to help. What? What, what does that mean? Holy crap. That was in addition to the fact when he was asked sitting down yesterday, should NATO shoot down Russian planes when they violate airspace? Yes. Next question. I mean, yeah, that was. That's something too. That was not a Joe Biden answer. I wish an AI simulator or a parallel universe could show me how. Kamala Harris would have that question.

[Michael]

Oh, no, no, no. I don't know if you're believers, folks, but it had to be the hand of God or something that kept her out of the White House. I mean, can you imagine that, lunkhead? I mean, Trump is mercurial and unpredictable and half nuts half the time, but I mean, at least he's resolute.

[Jack Armstrong]

We've got more of this. More Kamala Harris later, but she. Mark Halperin's been doing such a great job on his YouTube show about it. Very entertaining. But anyway, he played one clip and he said, could I get a light vinegarette with that? I thought that was pretty funny.

[Michael]

Well, I've seen. I've enjoyed many terrific headlines. Among them, thoughts like, kamala Harris reminds us why we didn't vote for her.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. No kidding.

[Michael]

Yeah. So getting back to the Russia thing, though, briefly. And there isn't much humor to be found here, but there's a little bit.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'll do it.

[Michael]

I can. My favorite back and forth is Donald Trump said essentially that they've. That the Russian military is a paper tiger. They've been fighting aimlessly for three and a half years. Well, the Kremlin spokesman, Dmitry Peskov said Russia is in no way tiger. Still Russia more compared with bear. There are no paper bears. Your face is a paper bear.

[Jack Armstrong]

Your mom is a paper bear.

[Michael]

Right. Yeah. What he said.

[Jack Armstrong]

There are no.

[Michael]

There are no paper bears.

[Jack Armstrong]

So David Ignatius writes in the Washington Post today, and he's one of the best thinkers and the most connected people on these topics with sources in the Pentagon, in the White House. He wrote, and I thought this was interesting, he said, nobody senses weakness in an opponent better than Donald Trump. That's one of the things he does well and. And what their weak spot is. And he thinks both from a personality standp and from a military and economic standpoint, that Russia is very weak and that a strong pushback against them could cause them to really be hurting. So that's pretty interesting. And he thought some of that was based on, you know, we have the best intelligence in the world and our intelligence showing us that the military is close to collapse and their economy is close to collapse.

[Michael]

Mm.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Which is basically what the definition of a paper tiger is when you're talking about a country.

[Michael]

Right, Right. Yeah. Paper. Paper bear. Anyway. Yeah. And Peskoff wasn't the only one to mouth off. What else? The outspoken former Russian president Dimitri Medvedev mocked Trump's new position, saying he had been given a dose of, quote, alternative reality and noted his oft changing views on the conflict. Quote, I have no doubt he will come back. He always comes back. The main thing is to radically change your point of view on various issues more often and everything will be fin. That's the essence of successful government through social media, which is a pretty good shot.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. But you might want to contact some of your late friends in Tehran who no longer exist, that there is a limit. And sometimes Trump does follow through on his threats at some point. With a whistle from the sky, the.

[Michael]

Head of the Russian English language state news channel RT dismissed the President's support for Zelensky is that of a carnival huckster. Quote, Trump debuts as a tarot card reader, telling the thrice divorced lady that she is going to meet that billionaire prince after all, as long as she buys the magic crystals she wrote on X. Wow. So they are openly mocking the president.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. So I was watching MSNBC and Joe Scarborough was asking and nobody had an answer. Why would they do that? Why would they openly taunt a guy? That one is easily butt hurt. Two has been like laying out, literally, I was about to say laying out the red carpet, literally laid out the red carpet for Putin. Why taunt him and poke him? What's. I mean, the story of the last several weeks, everybody has figured out you need to flatter Donald Trump to get what you want. And that's what everybody does. European leaders. Why is Putin going the opposite direction? What's he think he's going to get out of that?

[Michael]

I have thought long and hard about that question, Jack, and the only thing I can come up with is either Putin wants to provoke Trump into doing something that will be condemned worldwide and thereby weaken Trump's standing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Like what?

[Michael]

That's remote. That's.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Michael]

Attack Kurkutsk or something. I don't. I don't know. The other possibility is he wants war with NATO and. Or a nuclear war.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, that would suck.

[Michael]

That would suck. I think we can all agree on that. Even old what's his face, the comedian fella who's back on the air, I'm told. I think he would agree. That would suck.

[Jack Armstrong]

That can't be, though.

[Michael]

But it's an incredibly intriguing question. I mean, they could flatter and lie. That's what they've been doing. And string the President along like they. They do everybody else. Will they grab inches of territory at the cost of hundreds of lives. What does defiance and mockery get them?

[Jack Armstrong]

I can't imagine. I can't imagine. And you know, you were reading from rt, the, their, their, their media, their press or whatever, they're not printing anything without Putin's approval.

[Michael]

Oh, no, that's state media. Yeah, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's just, it's hard to figure out what's going on there. That's, that might be the scariest part of it all is that that does not make sense. Why would you taunt Donald Trump and.

[Michael]

Tarot card reader telling the thrice divorced lady she's going to meet that billionaire prince after all, as long as she buys the magic crystals. Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

On the other hand, what could Trump possibly mean about Ukraine's going to get all its land back?

[Michael]

All of its land back.

[Jack Armstrong]

A fifth of it is currently controlled by Russia.

[Michael]

Well, and some of it was taken in 2014.

[Jack Armstrong]

And does he mean Crimea too? Even if we say, even if we think he doesn't mean Crimea, Crimea off the table. But the rest of it, it's still, that would be a heck of a chore. I mean, we'd have to give them NATO, we and NATO would have to give Ukraine some serious weaponry and lots of money.

[Michael]

Well, and Mike, the attorney from Chicago just sent me a picture of a brown origami bear. So there are paper bears. So the Kremlin has lied once again. There are no paper bears. What an odd thing to say.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it's, it's, it's a heck of a thing. It's definitely the news of the day. It should be the news of the day for the world, for planet Earth.

[Michael]

I caramba, fans of uncertainty, you've got to really been enjoying yourselves these days.

[Jack Armstrong]

But again, the most confusing part of it is why Putin would think insulting Trump and his family could possibly be a good idea. It's just that that worries me that he does want a big war with NATO, which would be horrifying, obviously.

[Michael]

All right, I've thought of one more theory and certainly if you have a good one, [e-mail] we could maybe even feature it in mailbag coming up in a couple of Min. Or text 415295 KFTC. The other theory is as Trump is somewhat mercurial and a unique bird to say the least. Is the Kremlin trying to weaken support among Europeans to shake the people and leadership of Europe, pointing out that Trump is mercurial and has completely about faced all of a sudden. And, and that you shouldn't cast your lot with this guy. He'll turn his back on you as quick as he'll turn towards you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Just.

[Michael]

I'm thinking out loud.

[Jack Armstrong]

From everything I've read in the last 24 hours, that ain't gonna work. Because Zelinsky was thrilled, McCrone was thrilled, Starmer was thrilled. These people, they weren't like, oh, no, this shows him to be mercurial. This was. Yes, finally, he's on our side.

[Michael]

McCrone hasn't been that thrilled since his old teacher invited him to clap erasers after class, if you know what I mean.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or since the crosswalk guard told him he could cross the street in New York.

[Michael]

The real president, the president that matters has gone through. You can cross now.

[Jack Armstrong]

You gotta wait. The real president's coming through.

[Michael]

We.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's funny. We gotta start the show officially, for certain. How about the guy who tried to kill Trump stabbing himself in the neck with a pen last yesterday?

[Michael]

That's quite the story. Go ahead.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Why stop him? I don't understand. When somebody who's been just convicted of trying to murder the president tries to kill himself, you got to intervene. Yeah, we'll be. We're going to go eat lunch. We'll come back and see how you're doing with the pen in about an hour.

[Michael]

Boy. Stabby.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, Michael?

[Michael]

That pen's going to be a collector's item. That's true.

[Jack Armstrong]

It should be on ebay.

[Michael]

Yeah. You're always thinking, Michael.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty on this. It is Wednesday. Can't swag. The camel's in the studio. September 24th, the year 2025. We're Armstrong and Getty, and we approve of this program.

[Michael]

Here we go, then, officially, according to FCC rules and regulations. Mr. Carr. Brendan Carr. Please don't come after us. We beg you. Here we go at Mark.

[Joe Getty]

Mr. President, do you think that NATO countries should shoot down Russian aircraft if they enter their airspace?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, I do.

[Joe Getty]

Would you back them up? Would the United States help them out in some way?

[Jack Armstrong]

Depends on the circumstance, but, you know, we're very strong toward NATO. Yes, I do. You realize these sorts of back and forths, way short of what happened yesterday, used to rattle the world during the Cold War. Well, it's the same two countries with the same nuclear weapons.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

As back then.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Does the camel eat prunes? What is going on in here? God.

[Michael]

Lot of fiber. Camels eat a lot of fiber. There is. You would be as regular as him. You would improve your diet.

[Jack Armstrong]

We've got Katie's headlines on the way. A lot more news for you. I hope you can stay here.

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A.

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[Jack Armstrong]

As I said yesterday, I thought Kimmel was going to be insufferable. I wasn't looking forward to hearing clips. Everybody's playing the same Jimmy Kimmel clips. Nobody is playing by to my mind, clearly the most dramatic part. Nobody's playing it. I haven't seen it or heard it anywhere. I've only read it. And why is nobody playing that clip anyway? We'll play that clip for you coming up. Next segment.

[Michael]

Yeah, I got a handful of quote, unquote highlights. I also have a surprising and contrarian view of the whole thing that will shock and outrage most of the listening audience and drive you away from the show for good. So stay tuned for that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, just to, to fill in the tease, I think this makes it more interesting. He declares himself a follower of Jesus Christ while crying. That is hella dramatic. And nobody is playing that clip. Nobody.

[Michael]

It's uncomfortable. It doesn't fit the narrative. It's a distraction.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't think Hollywood wants that on the air or something. I find that very interesting.

[Michael]

Certainly lefty journalists don't. They have no interest in it. All right, so much to talk about. Let's figure out who's reporting what. It's the lead story with Katie Green. Katie.

[Joe Getty]

All right, thank you, guys. This is a big one and you touched it. Last segment, the Hill. Trump says NATO countries should shoot down Russian planes if they enter their airspace.

[Jack Armstrong]

This sort of talk during the Cold War was earth shaking whenever it happened. There are books written about these moments. Now it happens and everybody's like, jimmy Kimmel's back on. Do you hear that?

[Michael]

Well, and what a contrast from the Biden days when Chinese spy balloons could float over the heartland for weeks at a time. And, and he would think, I don't.

[Jack Armstrong]

Know what to do.

[Joe Getty]

From Fox News, Google to reinstate banned YouTube accounts that were censored for political speech.

[Michael]

Just need to talk about that. Absolutely. A directly related story to the Jimmy Kimmel deal from abc.

[Joe Getty]

Kamala Harris admits she was, quote, reckless in not challenging Biden's decision to run for reelection.

[Jack Armstrong]

She isn't admitting anything I can't wait to read Mark Halperin's review of her appearances so far. What he's calling a disastrous rollout of a book.

[Michael]

Well, I would agree with that, but I've been enjoying it more than anything since. I don't know, maybe the Masters last spring. I'm enjoying the hell out of her.

[Joe Getty]

Media tour from NBC. Officials warn that extremists are using discord to recruit American youth.

[Michael]

Yeah, I've been sitting on this article about the FBI warning parents about nihilists essentially recruiting their sons to this hateful nothing matters, you ought to go hurt somebody ideology.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oof.

[Joe Getty]

From Breitbart.com pregnant liberal women post videos of themselves downing Tylenol to own Trump.

[Jack Armstrong]

That does not surprise me. A Tylenol will become like the mask. If you're, if you like Trump, you won't use Tylenol anymore. Even if you feel fine, you'll take Tylenol every day to show how much you hate Trump.

[Michael]

The world has become too stupid. I'm checking out. Goodbye, everyone from the association of Nihilists.

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From the Associated Press, Major League Baseball will use robot umpires starting in 2026.

[Jack Armstrong]

I can't wait to hear more about this.

[Michael]

Yeah, it's just, it's the electric, you know, sensor balls and strikes that they've had in the minors for a while. Coming to the major leagues from study.

[Joe Getty]

Finds eat more, weigh less. Men are shedding pounds in six weeks by replacing most meat with beans.

[Jack Armstrong]

Beans?

[Michael]

What kind of beans?

[Joe Getty]

All the beans.

[Jack Armstrong]

All the beans. All the different beans.

[Michael]

Your bean world beans. Last night myself and I'm down 2/10 of a pound. See, it works. I weighed myself.

[Joe Getty]

And finally, from the Babylon bee, genius Trump enacts plan to dumb down Chinese population by inviting them to attend American universities.

[Michael]

Yeah, yeah, well played.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I hope China's not involved in any of the Putin stuff. That there's no strategy going on. And we gotta follow up on that big phone server that China, Russia, Iran, somebody put in New York was gonna shut down the whole cell phone service for some reason. A state actor according to the Secret Service. We got lots to talk about today.

[Michael]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Thank you.

[Michael]

Thank you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, as I was saying before I was interrupted. If you're just joining us, we are preempting your regularly scheduled encore episode of Celebrity Family Feud to bring you this special report. I'm happy to be here tonight with you all. I'm not sure who had a weirder 48 hours, me or the CEO of Tylenol. So I. That's funny. I've already thrown up three times, and that's all I've heard.

[Michael]

Oh, my.

[Jack Armstrong]

I care so little about this. The free, free speech stuff. Huge. Definitely a real conversation and all that. Oh, Gavin was on Late Night with Colbert. I didn't realize that.

[Michael]

Oh, yes. Oh, and he said some stuff that. Oh, it's so horrible. Olicious.

[Jack Armstrong]

But back to Kimmel. I just. There's so many things about this to hate. First of all, he's a smug. A hole. He just is. Yeah. And he hates you. Unless you're his politics. He hates you and thinks you're stupid. So screw him.

[Michael]

Oh, he's utterly contemptuous of you. Yes, that's correct.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, he is. And he gets like a million viewers a night. Like 600,000 in demo. Who? Why? Why do these shows get so much attention?

[Michael]

I do not understand the legacy of Johnny Carson. It's not earned. It's not significant.

[Jack Armstrong]

Before we get to the clip that I'm is not getting played. I don't. Well, it's up to Joe. I don't need to hear any more from this.

[Michael]

It's.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's way overblown. I don't freaking care. But I do want to play the one clip that nobody else is playing. But I wanted to read this analysis from Mark Halperin, which I thought was really interesting, because Kimmel comes out, does his thing, gets treated like.

[Michael]

Do I get my analysis at some point?

[Jack Armstrong]

Of course. But Kimmel. Kimmel comes out, gets his standing ovation and treated like a returning war hero or whatever. And, you know, everybody goes gaga. To one side, Kimmel was a defiant hero standing up to a bullying president. To the other, he was a smug Hollywood elitist, refusing to apologize for mocking a tragedy. That is the real takeaway. The episode was not a turning point, not a resolution, but another marker and a period of ever increasing division. The standing ovations in the studio were genuine, but outside those walls, the applause sounded very different. Kimmel got his redemption arc. Disney got its streaming bump. Trump got his foil. But the country, country remained where it was split, bruised, bewildered, embracing for what comes next.

[Michael]

Right, Right. I would agree that's some good analysis. So here's. Here's my take and I'm going to start with the New York Post is collected a bunch of what I think I'm supposed to say reactions from various conservative people about crocodile tears. Look at Jimmy the Martyr Kimmel fake crying Tonight, deny attack, reverse victim and offender Darvo playbook. That's what they do, said Charlie Kirk's friend Jack Sobiek. In typical leftist fashion, Jimmy makes the victim himself. Who said Dana Losh says no apologies. He wasn't making a joke. He outright lied about the killer because he hated the politics of the victim. Jimmy Kimmel can pound sand. Let's see. Lied about the MAGA gang, you lied about what happened. You definitely intended to make light of it. Blah, blah blah, said Scott Jennings on X. Pathetic. Blah blah blah. And several more things of that sort. All of those takes and opinions are absolutely correct and I agree with them completely. Here's the crappy part about that though. The First Amendment question is extremely important. Extremely. Jimmy Kimmel being an a hole doesn't matter. Two consecutive, four consecutive administrations going as far as they can to limit free speech. If they don't like it, that's no good. That's horrible. It's un American. I agreed with virtually everything Jimmy Kimmel said about the First Amendment last night. Hundred percent. And he's an a hole. He reminds me of none other than Ernesto Miranda of the Miranda warnings, who was a raping, kidnapping scumbag who rotted in prison precisely where he deserved to be. And Americans ought to be reminded of their rights when they get arrested. Those two things are both true.

[Jack Armstrong]

And they're called Miranda rights because of that case.

[Michael]

Right? That was exactly the Jimmy Kimmel. He's an awful human being. And Smuggy Noramus and the chairman of the FCC and the President himself saying people who don't agree with me or piss me off or are inaccurate ought to be taken off the air. That sucks. And I will never ever support that from either administration, either party or if some third party emerges in days to come, I will hate that too. Amen. End of rant.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I think it's interesting that every news.

[Michael]

I'm sorry, one more thought. Hey Democrats, where the F were you when your guys were doing exactly the same thing? So please save me your righteous indignation, you lying hypocrites. Now this is the end.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've seen a lot of those. The. The comments from people when Tucker got Booted. Well, there are limits to what you can say on the air versus what the things they're saying. When Kimmel got booted, briefly, when all.

[Michael]

Google's YouTube now say, all those accounts that we banned during COVID for telling the truth, the administration made us do it. You can, you can have your account back. Oh, there's some. There was some principle.

[Jack Armstrong]

I can't believe that he gets away with. Kimmel gets away with saying what he said and he doesn't even have to take it back. I mean, because that was a ridiculously dumb thing to say.

[Michael]

Oh, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, this part is not being played by anyone. And I thought it was the most dramatic part of the. The whole thing.

[Michael]

There was a moment over the weekend.

[Jack Armstrong]

A very beautiful moment. I don't know if you saw this on Sunday. Erica Kirk forgave the man who shot her husband. She forgave him. That is an example we should follow. If you believe in the teachings of Jesus, as I do, there it was. That's it. A selfless act of grace, forgiveness from a grieving widow. It touched me deeply and I hope it.

[Michael]

Touches many.

[Jack Armstrong]

And if there's anything we should take from this tragedy to carry forward, I hope it can be that and not this. So.

[Michael]

You know, a lot of people claimed those were crocodile tears. Etc. I actually think he was sincere. Completely sincere. Jimmy Kimmel's not a monster. He's a fool.

[Jack Armstrong]

You think he's a. He's a follower of Jesus who. That's a part of his life.

[Michael]

In his mind. It is. I didn't say he's wise or smart or right, just that he was sincere. He thinks he is. But why do you think he is a fool?

[Jack Armstrong]

How about why do you think nobody's playing that part? I. I haven't heard that clip anywhere.

[Michael]

Because Christianity is. Is evil and white supremacist or something. Something I learned in, in social classes in college. Every other religion is to be revered as beautiful and sacred and should not be discriminated. I think it might be on the progressive left.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think it might be as much as. Because he said something nice about Charlie Kirk's wife. They don't want that. They don't like that.

[Michael]

Yeah, we're pressed for times, but we'll leave that part out.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, we're pressed for time. We can't. We'll leave out clearly the most dramatic part of his speech last night. Clearly the most dramatic part. To me, he praises Erica Trump for being a follower of Christ and that we should all emulator and nobody. Erica Kirk. Sorry. And nobody's playing that because you just want it to be 100% defiant of Trump and all those people and the evil Kirk, who is actually a racist. Don't you know that? I just. I hate the way we do things now. I hate it even as much as I think Jimmy Kimmel's an a hole. And lots of people say behind the scenes, he's a nice guy. He's a nice guy. If you agree with him, he is, as Joe said, contemptuous of half the country. Thinks you're a moron.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

So if you think I'm a moron, I don't have to like you. I don't care how nice you are to other people. But he says something nice about their enemy. And that clip doesn't make. Make the highlights for any. Anyone. Just the defiant against Trump stuff.

[Michael]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

I hate everything we do now.

[Michael]

And there have been a number of voices on the right saying the right things about free speech, and we've mentioned some of them, but I don't know. Y' all are gonna do what you want. You should. But commentators who are merely blasting Jimmy Kimmel for his many character flaws and not taking a moment to think about the First Amendment implications and how you've got to be consistent on this stuff or we will lose it. You know, shop for your ideas, you know, accordingly. It's okay to censor if it's there, guys. No. Oh, my God. If you don't know where that road leads, well, there's no helping you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, so, like, I'm thinking, like, 1% of the country watches him through broadcast airwaves. If you took away that 1%, the rest of them, there's no free speech involved in the, in the. There's no FCC control over streaming or anything like that. So you couldn't threaten it. No.

[Michael]

Well, no, I disagree. Just because it's one. One company that, that owns the right to put him as a product on all of those platforms. And if you take away one of them, then he's no longer profitable enough, period. I just. The FCC commissioner ought to shut his piehole. Trump ought to stop.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I would. Well, I agree with that 100%. I just think it's going to be completely moot in, like, five years. We're down to. We're down to like, six people in the country watching anything through broadcast airwaves. So the FCC will have no role in any of that.

[Michael]

That's true, but given the media landscape, the fact that because of overregulation, which Democrats have ushered into Being mostly you need the the President to put his anointing oil on your merger, for instance.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oil.

[Michael]

Or the ftc, the Federal Trade Commission or the Justice Department or who the hell ever else will say no. We're going to make it real tough for you unless you kiss our ring and beg us. Rent seeking we call it in economics. All of it sucks.

[Jack Armstrong]

There was another interesting point from just a business standpoint that was made. But I'll tell you about that right after this. From Simply Safe. I like to pull out of my driveway and I give my little salute to the Simplisafe sign that I got in the yard. That lets me know and everyone know that I got all that protection in my home. I got the cameras, I got the sensors, I got the everything.

[Michael]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Michael]

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[Jack Armstrong]

So one of the business analyses of this whole thing was not very many years ago the two biggest distributors of a network show saying we're not airing it would have been the end of the show. Absolutely. Not even a question. Sinclair and whatever that other one saying that they weren't going to air Kimmel. That would have been the end of the show. But everything has changed so much so fast and there's so few people that get their shows that way anymore. Anyway, it didn't matter. And, and the people at Disney and I hadn't thought about this but clearly true. They love the ad. Anything that hurts network out there and drive stuff to the streaming contracts is a plus for them. They want that. They want you to get your antenna down off the roof and sign up for Hulu Disney. That's what they want.

[Michael]

To have happen. So wow. True. Absolutely.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's just the changing world that we live in. I hope I don't hear another word about Jimmy Kimmel in my life. Who flipping cares what he thinks about anything? I do care about free speech. I don't care about Jimmy Kimmel. I wonder what his ratings were last night. I'm sure that will come out.

[Michael]

Slightly higher for a few days.

[Jack Armstrong]

He could have tripled it and it would have been 3 million people across the whole country.

[Michael]

Well, and give it four, five, six days and people will be reminded why they didn't watch in the first place.

[Jack Armstrong]

Exactly. Uh, we got Mailbag on the way. We got a whole bunch of stuff we gotta read the whole dang. Well I don't know if we can read the whole thing is too long Truth social post that Trump put out yesterday about Ukraine getting all their territory back. What is that that all mean? It could be very very huge. Tell you that.

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[Jack Armstrong]

A.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Zelensky, speaking at the UN just said we are in the most destructive arms race in human history. That might actually be true.

[Michael]

Oh yeah, I think he probably. Yeah, he's right. You're right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Freedom loving quote of the day.

[Michael]

Been thinking about legacy and posterity in the wake of the assassination of young Charlie Kirk. Kirk and his message and how it may continue on even greater than when he was alive. Who knows. This is from the American writer Edward Abbey, whose work I don't really know. But I like this quote. Those who have no sense of posterity or any concern for future generations are the ones who are really dead. I mean they are dead right now. Walking zombies. Interesting thought Mailbag.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't like the way I'm dressed today. You ever have that happen? You get dressed and you look at yourself in the mirror and think I just do not like and I didn't.

[Michael]

Have seems like a good idea in the closet.

[Jack Armstrong]

I didn't have time to change and now I just. I gotta walk around looking like a homeless person or a high school kid all day long.

[Michael]

I don't know if I'd go that far. You're casual, comfortable.

[Jack Armstrong]

Drop us a note.

[Michael]

Mailbagarmstrongygetti.com let's see, we'll begin here and then move on. It's Neil in beautiful Hanford, California. Bull ass. Joe Jimmy Kimmel is a suck up a hole. Nothing he said last night was sincere, but thank you for watching so I didn't have to then. This from Ed. Appreciate what you said about Kimmel's show yesterday. Couldn't agree more. He gives the middle finger every night to half the country. His non apology apology was a disgrace. Then this from Sideshow Bob. I'm much more concerned about the President proclaiming hate for half the country than a late night hack doing the same. That's probably enough.

[Jack Armstrong]

Does it make sense to mock the idea that anybody thinks it wasn't Mmaga that killed him? And you're so touched by her speech and forgiveness. I don't know if those two things fit together.

[Michael]

Yeah, right. I like this one guy whose name I don't know. Oh, he was Andrew Colvin. He's an executive producer of the Charlie Kirk show and a friend. He said jimmy, it's simple. I'm sorry for saying the shooter was maga. He was not. He was of the left. I apologize to the Kirk family for lying. Please accept my sincere apology. I will do better. I was wrong.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, because you said to that woman last night, now I'm getting fired up. So you said Erica Kirk, she set an example we should all follow. I'm a Christian and she's. We're both following Jesus and he forgave him and she's so wonderful and everything like that. You said that her husband and father of the children were killed by people that he had been talking to, that he recruited, that he had.

[Michael]

That he had created the situation thereby deserving it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Exactly. That's what you said. Jimmy Kimmel.

[Michael]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

You lie in a hole and that's.

[Michael]

Again, he's not an evil genius. He's a fool. He's a jackass. Moving along, what was Putin thinking? Robin Walnut Creek writes, Jack Joe, the multi year meat grinders greatly exhausted the supply of Russian conscripts, with Putin resorting to North Korea as a stopgap to provide more cannon fodder. Iran is a shell of itself and not in a place to help. Its only remaining ally is China, who to date has provided indirect support of weapons supplies and intelligence. Why would he want a war against NATO? Maybe because it's to pull China in for direct support. He believes Russia plus China against NATO would provide better odds than the current stalemate. Welcome to World War three.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's what I said. That's why I said what I said like 20 minutes ago. I hope China is involved in this calculation.

[Michael]

Yeah, I don't. I don't know if that would work. Anyway, China and Russia are frenemies. Never forget that. And they can be a formidable force together, but there's a high level of mistrust there. And finally, RFK Anonymous writes, First of all, Michael, well done. When Jack was telling his bear story playing the the classic Dennis Green clip, the bears are who he thought they were. His email topic is actually, you want to crown Michael?

[Jack Armstrong]

Crown him.

[Michael]

Which is a less remembered part of that rant. But then he he said, I was so disillusioned learning that Jack was not man enough to fight a bear in his underwear. I was sure that the story would end with our hero Jack and Henry taking the bear carcass off the roof of the car and leaving it in Golden Gate park on the bike path next to the old bike Jack always keeps in the car. Go. Full RFK bear carcass humor.

[Jack Armstrong]

Come on. I should have been rolling around in the campground in my underwear. Fight the bear. You're absolutely right to save my Coleman cooler that cost $20.

[Michael]

Yes, yes, if you were a man, you would have. We also got a great email about fake Russian slash Ukrainian brides. Oh, you owe us an update on your romance with the Ukrainian honey.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's right, I have an update on my Ukrainian girlfriend. Yes, we got a lot on the way. I hope you can stay here. If you missed a segment, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand.

[Michael]

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