Can I Borrow Some Lipstick?

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand: "Can I Borrow Some Lipstick?" Released: March 27, 2025 | Host: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty | Produced by iHeartPodcasts

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1. Introduction to Deportation Legalities

[00:33] Jack Armstrong The episode kicks off at the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, where Jack Armstrong introduces the primary topic: the recent legal battles surrounding the Trump administration's deportation policies.

Joe Getty discusses the court's stance: [00:53] Joe Getty "The D.C. Court of Appeals has upheld a decision to block the Trump administration from deporting Venezuelan and gang members to El Salvador under the Alien Enemies Act."

Jack Armstrong reflects on the implications: [01:08] Jack Armstrong "This is not going to end well. So we're getting them out in record numbers. And we're having a lot of problems with the courts because the courts want to pretend they're president and they're not president."

2. Legal and Political Implications of Deportations

Joe Getty elaborates on the judges involved: [01:27] Joe Getty "The judges ruling against the administration include Karen Henderson, appointed by George H.W. Bush, and Patricia Millett, appointed by Barack Obama. Meanwhile, Justin Walker, a Trump appointee, argues that the district court's orders threaten national security negotiations."

Unnamed Contributor adds perspective: [01:54] Contributor "So Trump's argument about not getting 80 million votes ignores the balance of power between branches and the role of the judiciary."

Jack Armstrong emphasizes constitutional protections: [02:54] Jack Armstrong "worth mentioning that the entire idea of the Constitution is to protect us from a dictatorship of the majority anyway."

3. Conditions in El Salvador Prisons and Human Rights Concerns

Discussion shifts to the harsh realities faced by deportees:

Unnamed Contributor cites Peter Doocy: [05:49] Unnamed Contributor "Peter Doocy describes the conditions: 'They spend 23 and a half hours in those cells. Each cell has 70 people... most of those people are in there for life.'"

Jack Armstrong criticizes media portrayal: [04:45] Jack Armstrong "Wall Street Journal's journalism is skewing further and further left... They make a big deal of the fact that you go to the bathroom in front of each other. The Marines, they seem to be fine."

Humorous interlude on prison attire: [05:23] Contributor "Why did DHS Secretary Kristi Noem dress so hot when visiting the prison? Maybe to avoid inciting a prison riot!"

Jack Armstrong sarcastically comments on deportation consequences: [08:39] Broadcast Announcer "If you come to our country illegally... this facility is one of the tools in our toolkit."

[09:18] Jack Armstrong 'If you stand in front of one of those prison cells where you got to figure out, okay, I gotta band together with some sort of group...'

4. NPR Congressional Hearing and Alleged Bias

The conversation pivots to media bias, focusing on NPR:

Unnamed Contributor introduces the topic: [18:00] Contributor "Leader of NPR grilled by Congress... questioning the integrity and bias of NPR's leadership."

Jack Armstrong criticizes NPR's leadership: [18:35] Jack Armstrong "She is Stalin's unholy knife-wielding mistress. She is absolutely evil."

Discussion of James Lindsay’s critique: [18:53] Jack Armstrong "Marxists just lie so overtly and blatantly that people begin to question their own perceptions."

Brandon Gill’s questioning of NPR's host: [32:08] Jack Armstrong 'Into his answer, the takeaway is Jack is a partisan maniac.'

Highlights from the congressional exchange: [20:53] Brandon Gill "Do you believe America is addicted to white supremacy?"

NPR Host's evasive responses: [21:13] Host "I don't recall reading that."

Jack Armstrong mocks the host's lack of accountability: [24:22] Jack Armstrong "She's a Soviet agent, lying and lying and lying with a smile on her face."

Discussion on perceived NPR bias: [26:23] Jack Armstrong "Journalist 87 to 0."

5. Light-Hearted Segment: Sports Bras Debate

Shifting gears, the hosts delve into a lighter topic: the evolution of sports bras.

Unnamed Contributor critiques terminology: [33:27] Contributor "Why do you need a metaphor? Just say a bra that's supportive while engaged in sports."

Katie Green promotes the show’s merchandise: [34:05] Katie Green "The best sports bra is the Armstrong Yeti one from our website. No pads fall out in the washer."

Playful banter on sports bras: [35:01] Jack Armstrong "Idiot. Well, there's Jack and there's Joe..."

6. Final Thoughts and Closing Remarks

As the show wraps up, the hosts share final humorous anecdotes and tease future content:

Jack Armstrong shares a personal story: [36:14] Contributor "A teller woman had a very large chest on display, and she asked, 'Do you want big bucks or small bills?' I said yes, Big boobs would be fine by accident."

Teasing next episode’s topics: [36:28] Contributor "Tomorrow's show will feature a special shout-out for Cal Unicornia, the state's insurance commissioner who is a joke and a crook."

Closing banter: [37:14] Jack Armstrong "Our listeners have a range of emotions right now. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty ask, and here’s your response: 'I would like to be called Joseph of Illinois.'"

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Notable Quotes:

• Jack Armstrong on Constitutional Protections:

  "The entire idea of the Constitution is to protect us from a dictatorship of the majority anyway." [02:54]

• Joe Getty on Judicial Appointments:

  "Karen Henderson, appointed by George H.W. Bush, and Patricia Millett, appointed by Barack Obama." [01:27]

• Peter Doocy on Prison Conditions:

  "They spend 23 and a half hours in those cells... most of those people are in there for life." [05:49]

• Unnamed Contributor on NPR Bias:

  "NPR is on every town in America... there's a lot of really good long-form journalism, but also a ton of extreme nut job stuff." [25:52]

• Brandon Gill questioning NPR Host:

  "Do you believe that looting is morally wrong?" [26:35]

Conclusion

In "Can I Borrow Some Lipstick?", Armstrong and Getty tackle significant and controversial topics, from the legal complexities of deportations under the Trump administration to allegations of bias within NPR. Amidst serious discussions, they intersperse humor and lighter segments, providing a dynamic and engaging listening experience. The hosts' critical perspectives invite listeners to question prevailing narratives and consider multiple facets of each issue.

Transcript

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[Broadcast Announcer]

Broadcasting live from.

[Jack Armstrong]

The Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now he's Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

The D.C. court of Appeals has upheld a decision to block the Trump administration from deporting Venezuelan and gang members to El Salvador. Under the Alien Enemies act, ruling those powers are limited to wartime, not organized crime, making it likely this case goes to the Supreme Court.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is not going to end well. So we're getting them out in record numbers. And we're having a lot of problems with the courts because the courts want to pretend they're president and they're not president. They didn't get 80 million votes.

[Unnamed Contributor]

A. Yeah, okay, that argument. More on that in a second. Let's hear the rest of this report.

[Joe Getty]

Here are the judges that ruled against the Trump administration. Karen Henderson, appointed to the appeals court by George H.W. bush and Patricia Millett, appointed by Barack Obama. Now, Justin Walker, a Trump appointee in 2020, said, quote, the government has also shown that the district court's orders threaten irreparable harm to delicate negotiations with foreign powers on matters concerning national security. And that harm outweighs the plaintiff's desire to file a suit in the District of Columbia.

[Unnamed Contributor]

So there's a politics of it and the law of it. Right. There are different stories, really. I'm looking up at Fox Ms. 13 gang members deported, and then they're going through some of these dudes and their violent histories. And what about their rights, Jack? Right. So Trump has managed to put people in the position of wanting to stand up for violent gang members when you've got the, you know, just the flat legal aspect of it being persons in the United States have rights. And did these people's rights get violated before they were shipped out? And that's, you know, something we got to make sure of. And then Trump's argument that they didn't get 80 million votes. Well, we got different branches and we reason we have a judicial system and they're appointed and not elected to deal with. It's a balance thing. Maybe, but he either knows that and doesn't and, but again, he's trying to win the politics part of it. That's his main goal.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Worth mentioning that the entire idea of the Constitution is protect, to protect us from a, you know, dictatorship of the majority anyway.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Right. And you wouldn't want to end up with a, you know, a Democratic president snatching people off the street for whatever reason under some, whatever War Powers act, from whatever very old statute to happen either. But so where things, where are things currently.

[Jack Armstrong]

Legally speaking?

[Unnamed Contributor]

Yeah. So a judge stepped in and said, you can't deport anybody else.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, it was the U.S. court of Appeals for the D.C. circuit, the most liberal circuit court. Two to one on Wednesday denied the Justice Department's bid to lift the block while it fights the lawsuit. Not shocking at all. It'll keep going until it's in the the Supreme Court. But one thing that bothered me, the Wall Street Journal's journalism is skewing further and further left. It's shocking. It's like seeing your sister in a hoe house or your brother. Fill in the blank however you like to. Here's. Here's a paragraph for you or a sentence for you. Blah, blah, blah. Two to one decisions. Abba Doobadoo challenged President Trump's use of the Alien enemies Act of 1798 to carry out the deportations. The law has rarely been used. That's true. It is meant to be invoked at times when the nation is at war. This is a news story where they state as fact one interpretation of the Alien Enemies act of 1798 when there are absolutely. Anybody with a shred of intellectual honesty knows there are different ways to interpret the act, including an incursion by a hostile power. Not during a declared state of war. You read this specific wording of the act. It's absurd to act like there's one and only one interpretation.

[Unnamed Contributor]

I wouldn't call that an interpretation. They just didn't even read the next clause.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, yeah, it's overt bias. It's blatant bias. Shame on. Let's name names here, Jack. It's more fun that way. Jan Wolf, Michelle Hackman puts the hack bag in Hackman. And Victoria Albert, a trio of ladies. Yeah.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Whether or not this counts as a whatever incursion, I don't know Court's going to decide on that. But I thought it was interesting that our DHS secretary, Kristi Noem, visited that Venezuelan prison yesterday. I don't know if you saw that. Why'd she dress so hot? I don't quite get that.

[Jack Armstrong]

But anyway, if I'm going to a giant El Salvadoran prison full of the worst desperados on earth, I'm gonna throw on maybe a little jacket over my shapely bod in my tight, tight white top. But, you know, I just. I wouldn't want to incite a horniness driven prison riot.

[Unnamed Contributor]

This is quite the prison. Here's Peter Doocy describing the conditions there.

[Peter Doocy]

They spend 23 and a half hours in those cells. Each cell has 70 people. They eat, they bathe, they use the bathroom in front of each other. The meals are beans and pasta. The bunks are four levels high, and on the bunks back there, there are no sheets, no mattresses, no pillows. And most of those people are in there for life. Most will never see the out of doors again. One man, she was introduced yesterday to a man who is serving 465 years for homicide and terrorism.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Yeah, because at 23 and a half hours a day in that room with all those people and your sheetless, pillowless, stacked four high bed, we have better rights for chickens in California than they have in Venezuela for their prisons.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Contributor]

So you don't want to get shipped, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Contributor]

And part of the point from people who are worried about this is that we grabbed some people. You know, the Venezuelan gang members, hardcore. I don't care if they get something back there. What do I care? But if you grabbed somebody and there are examples out there that I don't know if they're true or not, but the New York Times and NPR and various people, you know, you grabbed some guy who's not in a gang at all, you miss, you misinterpreted his tattoo. He's just a regular dude here from Venezuela. He's here illegally, but he's not a gang member and he shouldn't be thrown in that prison.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. This tattoo is my favorite soccer team. Please let me out of here.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Now, I don't know if that happened or not, but that need to get nailed down, too. And obviously that would be horrific. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Beautiful example of what we're always talking about. If you don't want the other side to exercise a power in a way that you find horrifying, well, then we can't either. But it remains to be seen whether those accusations are true. Would NPR lie To us, Jack. More on that coming up at the bottom of the hour. Just horrific and almost hilarious lying by the current head of NPR to Congress yesterday.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Well, our, our friend Tim Sandifer's been tweeting out any and all of those stories of people allegedly not gang members or even really bad people who've got sent to that really bad prison. And he's concerned about due process. You know, I don't want due process violated either. So let's get this all figured out and nailed down. Part of the point of Kristi Noem going and touring that prison though, and then having all that information come out about how horrible that is is to have people who are here illegally think, maybe I ought to self deport, maybe I ought to go back on my own and just go back to living my life in Venezuela so I don't end up getting snatched off the street and sent to that prison before I have a chance to say, hey, I'm not an Ms. 13.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, she said as much. Why don't we go ahead and run? Clip 65 this is the secretary herself.

[Broadcast Announcer]

Want everybody to know if you come to our country illegally, this is one of the consequences you could face. First of all, do not come to our country illegally. You will be removed and you will be prosecuted. But know that this facility is one of the tools in our toolkit that we will use if you commit crimes against the American people.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know, I thought it was plenty when Biden just said, yeah, I was gonna say that's let in millions and millions of people.

[Unnamed Contributor]

That's the only way don't works whether you're a parent or copper, whatever you are, is if there's actual evidence of a repercussion for ignoring what you're saying.

[Jack Armstrong]

As my old bandmate Bob used to put it, Bob was one of the most sad and depressed individuals I've ever met in my life. Wow.

[Unnamed Contributor]

What did he say?

[Jack Armstrong]

He dealt with public aid. He was a terrific guitar player.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Awesome.

[Jack Armstrong]

But he dealt with public aid in Champagne, Urbana, Illinois. I can't remember. What's the name of the county? It doesn't matter. But he dealt with people all day long who were on welfare and was trying to help them not be on welfare, manage their lives, become productive citizens, the rest of it. And if you want soul crushing work, that's it.

[Unnamed Contributor]

I got a family member doing that and I'll be interested how long she can stay positive interacting with that crowd.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you're under the illusion that everybody's trying their best and it's only the system holding them down. Spend a couple of weeks doing that. Anyway, as old depressive Bob used to say, Joe, an order that doesn't include a sanction is merely a suggestion.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Yeah. So that. Yeah. If you stand in front of one of those prison cells where 70 people are stacked four deep pooping in front of each other your don't has more meaning than if you're doing it from the Oval Office. And so far you haven't booted out a single human being.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. I like how from Peter Doocy to the Wall Street Journal, they make a big. And to you, sir, they make a big deal of the fact that you go to the bathroom in front of each other. So the Marines, they seem to be fine. You get over it.

[Unnamed Contributor]

That I would not enjoy it at all. But that wouldn't be shortly after I'm in that cell. That wouldn't be a high priority of my worries.

[Jack Armstrong]

No.

[Unnamed Contributor]

My worry would be I'm going to be somebody's sexual release.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sweetheart, sweetheart. Or get your head caved in.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Given the choice. You know what? Can I borrow some lipstick?

[Unnamed Contributor]

Can you imagine how real politic it is in one of those cells where you got to figure out, okay, I gotta band together with some sort of group. I can't be on my own. Which group do I band with? Who's in charge?

[Jack Armstrong]

That's like American prisons, too, to a large extent.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Yeah, but this would be. This would happen so fast.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well. And if you don't speak Spanish, good luck to you, hombre. Can you imagine saying excuse me? Excuse me. I can tell you're mad. Can you translate that for me? You got your Google Translate app.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Oh, no, you don't, me mio, no, no sodomio. I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, boy. Not helping.

[Unnamed Contributor]

No, not helping. More on the way. Stay here anyway. Oh, and chill.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Unnamed Contributor]

Yeah, and when we call her a lousy hoe, we're referring to her skills as a gardener.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Wait, really?

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, that was a career ender three years ago. That Year.

[Katie Green]

I love it. As a woman, I love it. She sucks.

[Unnamed Contributor]

So she made a joke.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do we have any evidence whatsoever that she is a sex worker?

[Unnamed Contributor]

Exchanges well. He didn't call sexual pleasures for cash or other items of worth.

[Katie Green]

He didn't call her a sex worker. He said when we call her a hoe.

[Jack Armstrong]

Gardener. Yeah.

[Katie Green]

We're talking about your poor gardening skills.

[Jack Armstrong]

Troubled by that effort at humor.

[Katie Green]

That's because of what she said about Governor Abbott, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Said calling Governor Hot Wheels wasn't about the fact that he's in a wheelchair. Was about his using buses to deport illegals from Texas. No, there's her on the record calling him that years before the buses started. She is a piece of garbage.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Yeah. I don't know. Maybe I'm just a d. Maybe it's the era I grew up in. I'm not comfortable with calling a woman a hoe. You mean you're making that.

[Jack Armstrong]

He's giving you the pathetic face.

[Katie Green]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Just stop.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Really.

[Jack Armstrong]

She's a woman of color. Would have gotten you fired three years ago.

[Unnamed Contributor]

So you're saying it's just my age. It's become. It's like. It's like when I was.

[Katie Green]

By the way.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Huh?

[Katie Green]

I said, that's just because she's a woman of color. Who cares? We're all equal. Anybody can be a hoe.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Because times change, and I don't always. Like, I don't always.

[Jack Armstrong]

Every little girl can dream of that. Yes. Right back to you.

[Katie Green]

Aim big.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Times change, and I don't like the way times change often since we're headed one way toward coarser. But in terms of being in the entertainment industry, I have to have an idea of what is acceptable and what's not. And for the sense purposes of humor, like, when I was a kid, my parents wouldn't allow you to say anything. Sucks. Oh.

[Jack Armstrong]

It was unthinkable to say on the air.

[Unnamed Contributor]

No. Well, I wasn't allowed to say it in our house, and then I wouldn't say it on the air. Now everybody says it. I mean, it's just a. Hey, this sucks. I mean, it's just an expression of. I don't like this. It doesn't. So if ho has become that as a. Like an insult, because I know for my son and his friends, it's a pretty common thing to throw around.

[Katie Green]

I just bought a hat that says, my dog thinks you're a hoe.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Okay. I'll adjust my sales accordingly.

[Katie Green]

Yeah, get it together.

[Jack Armstrong]

Really funny hat.

[Katie Green]

It really is worth every cent.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hat. Yeah.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Do you have something to add to that, Michael?

[Jack Armstrong]

No.

[Unnamed Contributor]

So I hope you already bought your ninja sword in England if you were planning to, because they've outlawed them. You can no longer buy a ninja sword in England. According to Care Starmer, the Prime Minister, knife crime is at epidemic levels in Great Britain right now. Interesting. I wonder if that's a cultural immigration thing. Anyway, they're cracking down. You can't really hardly get guns in England like you can here. So if you want to hurt somebody, you got to use something else. Ninja swords will be banned as part of a purge on thugs owning dangerous knives. The labor leader said he told the sun that people of Britain are horrified at how easy it is for you to buy a lethal blade of some sort online. So they're cracking down on machetes, ninja swords and zombie knives particularly.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know what a ZK is. Never come across them.

[Unnamed Contributor]

I don't know a zombie knife is either.

[Jack Armstrong]

Not sure that's the right approach to squashing crime.

[Katie Green]

Britain, you know, weenies, zombie knife is like a dagger. It's just a straight edge dagger. Like if you're running into a crowd of zombies, you just, you know, I.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Don'T quite get them. Sure.

[Jack Armstrong]

Everybody knows that.

[Unnamed Contributor]

I don't quite get knife flaws in general. I carry a knife all the time. I carry a knife all the time and I'm very aware of various city knife laws, but they're all stupid. Like you know, I, I travel between towns where the. A two and a half inch blade's okay, but a two and a quarter inch blade's not okay. Then you go to the next down order a 3 inch blade. I could kill you with any of them if I was a nutcase and wanted to. The idea that that tiny separation in length makes any difference is nonsensical.

[Katie Green]

I went through TSA on accident with a knife once. That was a lot of fun.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Yeah. Where'd you have it?

[Katie Green]

It was in my purse and I, I was going straight from the morning show to the airport to fly to Southern California.

[Unnamed Contributor]

And who are you hoping to stab? Why did you have a knife?

[Katie Green]

Disclose that information.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Do you carry a knife like as for self protection or whatever all every day? Yeah, I have a knife every day too. I mind's somewhat self protection but mostly it just comes in handy all the time. Opening a package or whatever. I use it almost every day but when I'm walking down the street and there's some crazy homeless lunatic, I always tap my pocket. Yeah, I got my knife with me.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yep.

[Katie Green]

Oh it goes into my hand.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, as you know, I've had several corkscrews confiscated by the TSA because, you know, if you can get somebody to hold still, you could just screw that thing right in there and make your pop a noise, Jack, would you? Out comes their eye just like that. So they can't have me with that on an airliner, clearly. So, yeah, I've lost like four corkscrews through the years.

[Unnamed Contributor]

You're a big numb Chuck guy too.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah. Practice constantly.

[Unnamed Contributor]

If you haven't heard the leader of NPR grilled by Congress yet, this is something I hope you can stay tuned.

[Jack Armstrong]

Great.

[Broadcast Announcer]

Armstrong and Gettysburg, perhaps for our most tricky disagreements, seeking the truth and seeking to convince others of the truth might not be the right place to start. In fact, our reverence for the truth might be a distraction that's getting in the way of finding common ground and getting things done.

[Unnamed Contributor]

That's the lady that runs npr. I remember when she got named the new top Marxist. That clip came out as an, you know, as a warning to a lot of us that this is what she believes about the truth. That's some wacky thinking right there, I would say.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. As I said earlier, this woman is Ilse, She Wolf of the ss. She is Stalin's unholy knife wielding mistress. She is absolutely evil. And I want to share with you a clip from James Lindsay. Not a clip, but a, you know, a quote. He pointed out. Marxists just lie. They lie so overtly and blatantly that people begin to question their own perceptions. It works because no one expects another person to lie so overtly. They don't look at conversation as a way to reach the truth. They use it to manipulate you. So you are going to hear this attractive youngish woman lie and lie and lie with a smile on her face and her chin up. You're not nuts. She is. Well, if Representative Brandon Gill took a turn questioning her. Go ahead, Jack. Were you going to say something?

[Unnamed Contributor]

I was just going to say that that whole thing about the truth is obviously once you go down that road of the truth's getting in the way. Okay, now what version of stories are we going to use? And who determines that? And you feel like you should?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, like, you know what, every conversation ends roughly in the same place when you're talking about Marxism. As. As Orwell warned us, if your North Star is not truth, for instance, it's what the party says. They can take you anywhere, absolutely anywhere. Anyway, Brandon Gill, whose act I was not really familiar with, took the lead in questioning her. This is a masterclass in how these congressional hearings ought to go.

[Brandon Gill]

Do you believe that America is addicted to white supremacy?

[Broadcast Announcer]

I believe that. I tweeted that. And as I've said earlier, I believe much of my thinking has evolved over the last half decade.

[Brandon Gill]

It has evolved. Why did you tweet that?

[Broadcast Announcer]

I don't recall the exact context, sir. So I wouldn't be able to say, okay.

[Brandon Gill]

Do you believe that America believes in black plunder and white democracy?

[Broadcast Announcer]

I don't believe that, sir.

[Brandon Gill]

You tweeted that in reference to a book you were reading at the time, apparently, the case for Reparations.

[Broadcast Announcer]

I don't think I've ever read that book, sir.

[Brandon Gill]

You tweeted about it. You said you took a day off to fully read the Case for Reparations. You put that on Twitter in January of 2020.

[Broadcast Announcer]

I apologize, I don't recall that. I did.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Okay.

[Broadcast Announcer]

I. No doubt that your. Your tweet there is correct, but I don't recall that.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Okay, man, my memory is bad, but there's not a chance I read a long non fiction book that moves me to the point of tweeting about it and taking the day off that I don't remember. I don't remember reading that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or then when you're asked, well, you said all this stuff. Well, I've had a change in my transition, my thinking or evolution, whatever. She said. Yeah. In what way and for what reasons? What was it specifically that was screwed up with the way you're thinking? She doesn't get there, does she? There's more.

[Brandon Gill]

Do you believe that white people inherently feel superior to other races?

[Broadcast Announcer]

I do not.

[Brandon Gill]

You don't? You tweeted something to that effect. You said I grew up feeling superior.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ha.

[Brandon Gill]

How white of me. Why did you tweet that?

[Broadcast Announcer]

I think I was probably reflecting on what it was to be to grow up in an environment where I had lots of advantages.

[Brandon Gill]

It sounds like you're saying that white people feel superior.

[Broadcast Announcer]

I don't believe that anybody feels that way, sir. I was just reflecting on my own experiences.

[Brandon Gill]

You think that white people should pay reparations?

[Broadcast Announcer]

I have never said that, sir.

[Brandon Gill]

Yes, you did. You said it in January of 2020. You tweeted, yes, The North. Yes. All of us. Yes. America. Yes. Our original collective sin and unpaid debt. Yes. Reparations. Yes, on this day.

[Broadcast Announcer]

I don't believe that was a reference to fiscal reparations, sir.

[Brandon Gill]

What kind of reparations was it a reference to?

[Broadcast Announcer]

I think it was just a reference to the idea that we all owe much to the people who came before us.

[Brandon Gill]

That's a bizarre way to frame what you tweeted. Okay, how much reparations have you personally paid, sir?

[Broadcast Announcer]

I don't believe that I've ever paid reparations.

[Brandon Gill]

Okay, just for everybody else, I'm not asking anyone. Seems to be what you're suggesting.

[Unnamed Contributor]

So that was obviously a very interesting exchange and I didn't mean money when I said reparations. Okay, well that's what everybody means when they say it. So Wendy, you covered a lot you.

[Jack Armstrong]

In the book you read and recommended.

[Unnamed Contributor]

And I know how much NPR covered California's efforts to get reparations. And that's all about money, Sue. Anyway, obvious lie there. One interesting thing about that though, I did some reading her old tweets last night and about that book she's referencing, it's. She's from the northeast and is talking about various states in the northeast and how they benefited from slavery but hit it better and, and in, in ways beyond what I'd even ever read before. And that is something the north gets away with kind of a moral superiority over the south and their slaves and the cotton plantations, everything like that. Yeah, well, maybe a lot of your just regular working people, but there was a lot of rich people in the north benefiting from slavery and perfectly okay with it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I wasn't there at the time so I don't feel any guilt, but it's a good historical point. Yeah. So she, she lies and she lies and she lies. She's very much like you have to think of Catherine Mayer or Mar. Or she pronounces her name.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Probably a lie also.

[Jack Armstrong]

That could be. I suppose you got to think of her as like a Soviet agent who's now being asked, are you a Soviet agent? She's saying no. Do you believe in communism? Absolutely not. Do you love America? Of course I do, yes. She's just lying, lying and lying and lying.

[Unnamed Contributor]

So you think she believes in Marxism to the extent that she thinks, wow, I have really infiltrated a major media center and I have an opportunity to sway the American public toward my belief system of tearing down the evil capitalist. Blah, blah, blah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, White supremacist, blah, blah. She's had such a track record of public statements and again, they're not like one offs after a couple of cosmotinis or something like that. I mean she's a learned woman who has spoken at length and in detail about what she believes. She is not one of the well meaning soft heads of a Davis, California or a Madison, Wisconsin, who's been convinced that, oh, this, this worldview is, is how to be a good person. So I'm going to go along with it. No, she's, she knows precisely what she's doing.

[Unnamed Contributor]

She's in the extreme couple of percent of Americans in terms of her politics. And she runs npr, which is on every town in America. No matter how tiny you are. I know this because I'm from a lot of tiny towns. No matter how tiny you are. You got a little NPR station at least, and they're broadcasting their crap to everybody. And I listen to NPR every day. And there's a lot of really, really, really, really good long form journalism on there. But there's also just a ton of extreme nut job stuff.

[Jack Armstrong]

Not according to Ms. Mayer Maurer, as we'll get to in a moment or two. Is Brandon Gill done? No, he is not. One more clip.

[Brandon Gill]

Do you believe that looting is morally wrong?

[Broadcast Announcer]

I believe that looting is illegal and I refer to it as counterproductive. I think it should be prosecuted.

[Brandon Gill]

You believe it's morally wrong, though?

[Broadcast Announcer]

Of course.

[Brandon Gill]

Of course. Then why did you refer to it as counterproductive? The very different, very different way to describe it.

[Broadcast Announcer]

It is both morally wrong and counterproductive as well as being tweeted.

[Brandon Gill]

It's hard to be mad about protests in reference to the BLM protests, not prioritizing the private property of a system of oppression. You didn't condemn the looting. You said that it was counterproductive. NPR also promoted a book called In Defense of Looting. Do you think that that's an appropriate use of taxpayer dollars?

[Broadcast Announcer]

I'm unfamiliar with that book, sir, and I don't believe that was at my.

[Brandon Gill]

I tweeted that you read that book.

[Broadcast Announcer]

I don't believe that I did read that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, wow. I mean, it's, it's borderline laughable.

[Unnamed Contributor]

It really is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wait, I, I believe looting is wrong, should be prosecuted in full extent of law. Wait a minute. She's such a liar. Oh boy.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Oh, and then, Jim, you tweeted that you read it. I mean, what's going on?

[Jack Armstrong]

You promoted it on your, your nationwide radio operation. How about Jim Jordan, Roll up your sleeves, Jim. It's your shot. Next, buddy. 74.

[Broadcast Announcer]

Is NPR biased, Congressman? I have never seen any instance of never of political bias determining editorial decisions. No.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, Ms. Mr. Berliner in his story a couple last year wrote I've in the D.C. area editorial positions at NPR. He said he found 87 registered Democrats, zero Republicans. Mr. Berliner was he lying when he wrote that.

[Broadcast Announcer]

I am not presuming such. I just don't have. We don't track that information about our.

[Jack Armstrong]

Journalist 87 to 0.

[Broadcast Announcer]

And you're not biased, Congressman? I do not believe we are politically biased, no. We are a nonpartisan organization.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Nonpartisan organization. That is something.

[Jack Armstrong]

Picture yourself saying that sort of thing with a straight face.

[Unnamed Contributor]

How does she not burst into flames or at some point say, I'm sorry, I can't keep a straight face anymore. Of course we're biased. Oh my God, I almost got through it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Marxists just lie. They lie so overtly and blatantly that people begin to question their own perceptions.

[Unnamed Contributor]

The only way you could do that is if you're so committed to the. I've got to tear down this evil system. People are hurting, people are starving, little kids of color are being ruined by white supremacy. I've got to lie. You almost have to do that. So this is pbs. Not exactly the same as npr, but same sort of thing. They are being grilled yesterday too, and these figures were out. The PBS coverage of the Republican convention was 72% negative. The PBS coverage of the DNC convention was 88% positive. So 90% positive versus 3/4 negative. I've never seen any bias. How do you. Again, how do you say that with a straight face?

[Jack Armstrong]

You're just trying to hold your ground. You, you will not give an inch because the glorious revolution is coming.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Of course, ultimately, will any of their funding get cut? Will they be any different six months from now than what I heard the. Some of the crap I heard this morning? Probably not.

[Jack Armstrong]

I wonder about the funding. It could be that, you know, the George Soros's of the world will step up and supply, you know, to take care of that deficit and funding. Don't know.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Different worldviews. It's really, really interesting. So I got something good for tomorrow. I didn't want to do it today since we had this and it had been too much of the same flavor, but Ezra Klein of the New York Times was on Lex Friedman's podcast and this is kind of a hilarious story. You're going to play just a little bit of it tomorrow. I mean, like, you only really need a minute, but. So Ezra Klein, Lex Friedman is a really interesting dude, really nice guy who just wants to understand and wants everybody to hear everybody's point of view so we can have rational conversations, everything like that. And he's had on Elon and Trump and Biden and I mean anybody you want from any stripe and any and he angers lots of his listeners when he has the other people on any who. So he sets up Ezra Klein for the New York Times. He said, this is one of the leading voices of Democrat thinking, liberal thinking in America. And we're going to talk to him for the next couple hours. And his first question is, lay out as you see it, the main tenants of your worldview, of the democratic worldview, of the liberal worldview, just so people on the other side can understand it. And I was, I was thinking to myself, I'm getting dressed yesterday afternoon, I'm listening to this. And I thought, okay, I'm going to calmly. Because Ezra Klein's super smart guy writes for the New York Times. I'm going to calmly listen to it. I'm going to try to like really, you know, like they say in debate, be able to state the other side's position to their, you know, satisfaction. I'm going to really try to listen. I didn't make it 15 seconds. I'm not kidding. Wait till I play it for you, Mara, you'll feel the same way. I didn't really get 15 seconds before I said out loud in my bedroom. You gotta be effing Kidding me. 15 seconds.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Into his answer, the takeaway is Jack is a partisan maniac.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Out loud in my bedroom.

[Jack Armstrong]

You gotta be effing kidding me.

[Unnamed Contributor]

I can't wait to play it tomorrow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, I can't wait to discuss it.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Anyway, we will finish strong.

[Jack Armstrong]

Next Armstrong and Getty.

[Ilse]

Now, Ms. Kirger, the American people want to know is Elmo now or has he ever been a member of the Communist Party of the United States? Yes or no?

[Jack Armstrong]

No.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Geez.

[Ilse]

Let's talk about Cookie Monster. Now we know that Health Secretary RFK Jr. Is coming out against fast food and baked goods. Are we silencing pro cookie voters? Yes or no, Ms. Garger, but cookies.

[Broadcast Announcer]

Are a sometime food.

[Jack Armstrong]

So while the Republicans are saying so called public broadcasting is 100% a propaganda arm of the Democratic Party, the Democrats acted like it was a whole joke to even ask the question. A big joke to ask the question. There is no good faith there. None. How do you work with these people? How do you reach across the aisle? It's just insulting. And by the way, Elmo is red. I mean read the clues. Dead red, huh?

[Unnamed Contributor]

Katie, got a question for you. Or comment on this story from the athletic in the New York Times. It's about sports brassieres. A man walked on the moon a decade before a woman ran in a sports bra. The sports bra was invented in the mid-1970s, after women needed a, quote, jock strap for the boobs. It continues to revolutionize.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why do you need a metaphor? Just say a bra that's supportive while engaged in sports. A jock strap for the boobs because.

[Unnamed Contributor]

It'S a man centric word. And we have to. You have to explain everything to me for.

[Katie Green]

We're in a man's world.

[Unnamed Contributor]

We're in a man's world. Exactly.

[Jack Armstrong]

James Brown put it. That's right. Yeah.

[Unnamed Contributor]

It continues to revolutionize sports and women's rights.

[Katie Green]

So you need me for what?

[Jack Armstrong]

Hair? Jack.

[Unnamed Contributor]

I just. I. I was. Well, I don't. I don't wear a sports brassiere. I just wondered if they had perfected it. Does it seem like there needs to be more revolutionizing, or is it kind of where it needs to be?

[Katie Green]

Many need to be revolutionized. I will tell you, the best sports bra, and I'm not just saying this because I'm part of the show, is the Armstrong yeti one from the website.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. Yeah. The A and G shop. My daughter swears by it.

[Katie Green]

It doesn't have the pads that fall out when you stick it in the washer. You don't have to move anything. It's just good every time.

[Unnamed Contributor]

It's a jock strap for the boobs, you see?

[Katie Green]

Sure, Jack. That's what it is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Idiot. Well, there's Jack and there's Joe, and it's time to close the show with the help of Katie Green and Michelangelo. They're our friends. They're like family, and they're on our radio. Yo. Let's hear their final thoughts before they have to go. Wow. Wow. Hey, nice windowless white van there, Stabby the clown.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Yeah. Quit trying to sell ice cream to the kids. Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

You should have seen what Jack was doing in the studio. Oh, man. Swaying back and forth with a look at his. All right, let's get a final thought from. From everybody on the crew. Michelangelo, lead us off. With all this boob talk and what Jack was doing, my mind has gone blank. So I'll talk to you later, people. Wow. Wow. That easily distracted Katie Greener, esteemed newswoman.

[Unnamed Contributor]

As a final thought, Katie, we have.

[Katie Green]

A huge One More Thing podcast going on today.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, really? Cool.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Oh, great. So we've already got it planned out.

[Katie Green]

Yep.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Oh, that's awesome.

[Jack Armstrong]

Super. Jack, a final thought.

[Unnamed Contributor]

I want to take my time, Michael, to tell your fantastic story. You're at the bank. The teller woman had a very large chest on display, and she said do.

[Jack Armstrong]

You want big bucks?

[Unnamed Contributor]

Do you want small bills? For this you're getting cash?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Do you want. Yeah, big bills with that? And I said yes, Big boobs would be fine by accident.

[Katie Green]

Well played.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my God, how embarrassing.

[Katie Green]

I was young.

[Unnamed Contributor]

You were young.

[Jack Armstrong]

Also on tomorrow's show, a special shout out for my peeps. And Cal Unicornia, the state's insurance commissioner is a joke and a crook. And a crook and a joke. We'll tell you about it tomorrow.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Do you need this broken into small bills? No big boobs. But he find Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour work day. We will see you tomorrow. God bless America.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm strong and spaghetti.

[Brandon Gill]

Our message is clear.

[Jack Armstrong]

Go away. Are you sure Pocahontas says yes?

[Broadcast Announcer]

I. I have never said that, sir.

[Brandon Gill]

Yes, you did.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I was wondering, you know, what.

[Unnamed Contributor]

You felt about that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Folks are feeling and experiencing a range of emotions right now. Well, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty asked.

[Unnamed Contributor]

The same question of their listeners.

[Jack Armstrong]

And here's their response. I would like to be called Joseph Joseph of Illinois.

[Unnamed Contributor]

Can I go with Jack the Great? Just call me Jack the Great. Bye bye.

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