Can't Pass Up a Pulled Pork

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: Can’t Pass Up a Pulled Pork
Date: May 22, 2026
Host: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This Armstrong & Getty episode blends lighthearted banter about barbecue, body image, and Memorial Day traditions with pointed discussions of current events—including the controversy over the world’s best barbecue, Stephen Colbert’s last show, the impact of crypto (specifically Binance) on US-Iran relations, and the possibility of political fallout for Donald Trump. The show’s hallmark irreverence and cultural commentary are front and center as Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty riff on everything from pulled pork to international intrigue.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Barbecue Wars: California vs. Texas

[03:41–05:18]

• Topic: California recently “outranked” Texas in a Top 100 Barbecue Places list, but includes non-traditional (Japanese/Korean) barbecue.
• Jack Armstrong: Questions the criteria, defending California’s Ludy’s in Woodland:
  “Ludy’s in Woodland is fantastic. … I’ve eaten a lot of the barbecue places in Texas … Ludy’s in Woodland is fantastic.” (03:48)
• Both: Discuss favorite barbecue meats; Jack prefers pulled pork and samplers, while Joe focuses on beans as a crucial side.

The Body Image of Weight Loss

[05:28–07:14]

• Jack: Talks about losing weight and feeling less attractive, referencing celebrity advice about aging and weight:
  “You lose weight and you look worse. … if you’re going to just go by how you look, this weight might be better for you than the eight pounds lower.” (05:28)
• Joe: Relates, joking about Jack’s appearance and referencing GLP-1s and a new weight loss drug coming soon:
  “Yeah. Jack wears a G-string around the studio and that’s it. … I have like self made collagen injections in my face.” (06:33, 11:56)

TV Nostalgia: Stephen Colbert’s Farewell

[14:42–22:57]

• Colbert’s Impact: Colbert’s show ended; Jack remarks it’s not as monumental as Johnny Carson’s last show (stats: Colbert’s 2 million viewers vs. Carson’s 50 million).
• Political Shift:
  “Wasn’t he the first one that went full on, ‘I'm just going to talk to one side of the political aisle’?” (20:40)
• Colbert’s Farewell Quote:
  “We call this show the Joy Machine … if you choose to do it with joy, it doesn’t hurt as much when your fingers get caught in the gears.” – Stephen Colbert [21:03]

Cryptocurrency, Iran, and the Trump Connection

[23:26–36:47]

• Wall Street Journal Story: Iran has moved billions through Binance (the world's largest crypto exchange), including recent transactions benefiting the Iranian military—contradicting the aim of US sanctions.
  • “Our entire current war strategy of starving them of money doesn’t work near as well when you find out, oh, they have many more billions than we thought they had because of this whole Binance thing.” — Jack (30:07)
• Trump & Binance:
  • Binance’s founder, Changpeng Zhao, was pardoned by Trump, allowing him back into the finance world. Binance is a key backer of the Trump family's crypto venture, netting over $1.2B.
  • “Binance was a crucial backer of the Trump family’s crypto venture … which has earned the Trumps at least $1.2 billion since 2024.” — Joe (32:54)
• Political Fallout:
  • Joe speculates on the political risk if Republicans lose patience:
    “I could easily see that many Republican senators thinking, let's move on to the next era. J.D. Vance as president …” (36:05)
• Sanctions vs. Crypto:
  • Both hosts express skepticism about sanctions’ effectiveness in a world of advanced workarounds like cryptocurrency:
    “Now with technology and crypto and bitcoin, binance and the rest of it, they’d probably laugh.” — Joe (37:43)

American Media’s Narrative and China Espionage

[38:19–40:00]

• Jack & Joe lampoon media framing about anti-Asian backlash after an American mayor is arrested as a Chinese spy.
  “How do I swear? If China attacked the west coast … the lead story in a lot of news would be fear of an anti-Chinese backlash.” — Joe (39:25)
  Jack delivers a satirical headline:
  “Asteroid Hits Where Earth, Wipes out Human Population and Women, Minorities Hit hardest.” (39:45)

Memorial Day Reflections

[44:53–47:47]

• Discuss personal and national traditions: putting flags on veterans’ graves, visiting cemeteries, and remembering the human cost of war.
• Joe: Sombre list of American war casualties, reminds listeners:
  “We lost 2,400 men in the Spanish American War… World War II, 405,399 … and the American Civil War. 620,000 men who sacrificed everything for our freedom.” (45:34)
• Barbecue Rituals: Cheerful food talk (“cheeseburger and a hot dog last night”), advice on not overcooking burgers, giving teens permission to eat heartily.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On “California beating Texas for Best BBQ”:
  “That’s what I’m saying. This is America. You busted the trust.” — Jack (04:22)
• On losing weight and looking worse:
  “I look worse now than I did before. It’s just a fact.” — Jack (06:33)
• On Hollywood aging:
  “William Shatner talks about that all the time. £5 for every 10 years over 60. Helps you keep looking younger.” — Jack (11:11)
• On the end of Colbert’s show:
  “It’s just a hangover from Johnny Carson that we treat these talk shows going because when Johnny Carson went off the air… 50 million people tuned in … It was a big deal. But … it’s just not.” — Jack (22:35)
• Satirical media takes:
  “Asteroid Hits Earth, Wipes out Human Population; Women, Minorities Hit Hardest.” — Jack (39:45)
• On Memorial Day’s meaning:
  “We lost 2,400 men in the Spanish American War … World War II, 405,399 and the American Civil War, 620,000 men who sacrificed everything for our freedom.” — Joe (45:34)
• Food advice:
  “If the burger is still pink on the inside… oh, man, that on a good bun with the little ketchup and stuff…” — Jack (47:09)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|-----------------------------------------------------------| | 03:41 | California vs. Texas Barbecue | | 05:28 | Weight loss & body image | | 14:42 | Hollywood, McCartney, and Colbert | | 20:04 | TV ratings and Colbert’s political approach | | 23:26 | Binance, Iran, & the Trump Crypto Connection | | 36:47 | Political implications of the crypto story | | 38:19 | China espionage case & media backlash | | 44:53 | Chevron vs. Newsom and Memorial Day traditions | | 45:34 | US war casualties, meaning of Memorial Day | | 47:09 | Memorial Day grilling rituals |

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Tone and Style

Armstrong & Getty continue their signature rapid-fire, smart-aleck style—mixing pop culture, irreverent humor, and authentic personal insights. Their interplay draws out both amusement and serious underlying commentary on American life, politics, and media.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode is an ideal slice of classic Armstrong & Getty: Controversies, cultural observations, and some trivia about American barbecue history, all tied together by the hosts’ banter and a surprising amount of heart for Memorial Day. Highlights include their skeptical take on crypto’s role in geopolitics, a critique of media priorities, and everyday advice about burgers, beans, and honoring those who served. Even the final moments maintain the show’s lively energy—with jokes, grill talk, and reminders not to take life (or potato salad) too seriously.

Transcript

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[Jack Armstrong]

I don't like this. This is cheating. What so story in the California Post. California outranks Texas in new Top 100 Best Barbecue Places list. But there's a catch. It says. Okay, what's the catch? California's a big state. Maybe it just has a really good barbecue. I got Ludies in Woodland. Freaking great. And I've had. I. I told the owner who's in there now and then I said, I've eaten a lot of the barbecue places in Texas that they are so proud of that are good. Ludy's in Woodland is fantastic. Anyway, how did California pass Texas? Because they're including all kinds of Japanese and Korean barbecue and stuff like that.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, wait a minute. I know.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's what I'm saying. This is America. You busted the trust.

[Joe Getty]

Ah, damn it. I want my meat red, white and blue. The blue stuff probably trim that off, but yeah. What's your go to meat at your favorite barbecue place?

[Jack Armstrong]

It is hard for me to ever pass up on a pulled pork sandwich if one is available.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

But if I'm gonna do like a play to it, I usually get the sampler. So I got, you know, a little bit of everything.

[Joe Getty]

Little ribs, little brisket, little pulled pork.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've just recently become aware of the beef rib as opposed to like the pork. I usually get pork ribs, but the beef Rib. That's so huge. It's like. It's like Fred Flintstone and oh, so good. But to me, one of the big things is the beans. People's beans vary a lot. Yes. And the beans are Ludy's. I'm just saying. Is very, very good.

[Joe Getty]

But I am a bean guy, 100%. Oh, yeah, always. I'll have the cornbread and beans, please. Give me double beans. Triple beans.

[Jack Armstrong]

Good right now. And I got the best news ever yesterday from Grok.

[Joe Getty]

Better roll your window down, honey. Yes, I got the triple beans. Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know. I was trying to decide whether this is something to talk about on the air or not, if it's a relatable or only annoying. Oh, might be annoying. Maybe you've had this experience, you lose weight and you look worse.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I did some research on that yesterday, and it's a pretty common thing. And if what you're going for, I mean, because there's health reasons to lose weight, maybe you got a health situation or whatever, but, you know, you get to get into a certain zone. And I was reading a lot about this. That. That's. Yeah. It's a pretty well known thing that you're. If you're gonna just go by how you look, this weight might be better for you than the, the eight pounds lower. And that's where I am. I've lost like £10 in the last couple of months, and I, I've done the side by side. I, I look, I looked better 10 pounds heavier. Which is good news when you start talking about beans and cornbread and barbecue and stuff like that. Right, right, Michael? Yep. I look worse now than I did before. It's just a fact.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Jack wears a G string around the studio and that's it. That's a thong. That's it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

All right. All right. Yeah, that's. That's sobering news. So you're sweet being sober on a holiday weekend for, you know, percentage body

[Jack Armstrong]

fat or, you know, maybe you want the lowest percentage, but maybe I don't know what your health situation is. But just in terms of looks, the, the lower weight's not always better. And I, I'd never really thought about it before, but I've seen it in

[Joe Getty]

other people, at least not initially, because that can be a factor too. Your body has to take up the slack.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, anybody with a glp, one knows that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. I haven't done the big amounts where you have the, the, the, the, the, the Extra skin and all that sort of stuff, which would be a thing. You'd have to wait and. And let your body adjust.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, you know, that's funny. I saw the headline. I don't think I grabbed the story, but one of your big pharma companies says, oh, we've got a new weight loss pill that's going to make the old stuff look ineffective.

[Jack Armstrong]

I wanted to do that. ABC News featured that last night. Yeah, this one is going to take over the world. And they did have the caveat that 1 out of 10 people were having, like, gastrointestinal horrifying problems. But still, that's 90% aren't, and it's way better.

[Joe Getty]

Then you'll lose weight like you got Ebola. Oh, fantastic. All right, so we will. We'll bring in that story in a little bit in one form or another. But first, it's the beloved Friday tradition. Time to take a fine.

[Jack Armstrong]

What?

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It's time to take a fond look back at the week that was. It's cow Clips of the Week. The President says that the US Military is ready to go.

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Thank you, Karen Bass.

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The President's settlement also creates a nearly $1.8 billion fund. We're trying to give money, not give money. We're trying to compensate.

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We'd have to charge you $100 delivery fee.

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It was the architects of artificial intelligence. Interesting.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

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What are we. I don't, I don't want to bring anybody down, but one of those clips was Morons outside the Luigi Mangioni Trail. And I was reminded of a piece I read about just the ugliness of all of that and the phrase stuck in my head. And this young, you know, jackass, they didn't use the term, but Mangioni, who thought he could fix health care with bullets. I thought that was a good sentence. The hell

[Jack Armstrong]

yeah. So William Shatner apparently talks about the whole losing weight thing and says, we got this text and I don't quite understand it. William Shatner talks about that all the time. £5 for every 10 years over 60. Helps you keep looking younger.

[Joe Getty]

What does that mean? Gaining five pounds. Oh, for every ten years.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, okay, right. So my thing that I looked better 10 pounds heavier than I do now. When you're older, maybe not when you're younger, but when you're older. And so Shatner, who's fat as a hog, says Game. Five pounds for every 10 years to look young.

[Joe Getty]

I tell you this, fill out the crevasses. I have always, like, if I'm overweight at all, gain weight in my face. When I was 17 years old. Two sport athlete, best shape of my life. Distance runner. My girlfriend called me chubby cheeks. Okay, Just, that's my world. All right? I have no wrinkles.

[Jack Armstrong]

None.

[Joe Getty]

I mean, maybe if I raise my eyebrows, maybe a tiny bit in the forehead. I have like self made collagen injections in my face. So that's what he's talking about.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, that's wild. Gain £5 for every 10 years over 60 to keep looking younger. He's always in a suit.

[Joe Getty]

Doctors are like, no, Bill, no.

[Jack Armstrong]

But you can argue Bill Shatner, didn't he turn 90 recently? Yeah, he's, he's okay.

[Joe Getty]

I wouldn't argue with Bill Shatner about anything. I love Bill Shatner. Bill, if you're listening, God bless you. Live to be 170 outlived.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is Spock still alive? I think he outlived everybody, didn't he?

[Joe Getty]

Spock has passed. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

William Shatner is 95. 95, yes. You can't tell him that's a bad idea. Gaining weight every few years. Look young. Here you'll be. You'll be dead before you're 100.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Did he outlive everybody?

[Joe Getty]

Ohara.

[Jack Armstrong]

She's still alive.

[Joe Getty]

She just passed. Yeah, yeah. Nichelle Nichols, the beauty. Yes. Wow. Joe knows. I know all. All of them. Yes, I do. James Doohan, Scott. Should I go on? DeForest Kelly was. McCoy. Of course. Hell, I can even do Chekhov if you want. Anyway, who's the.

[Jack Armstrong]

The.

[Joe Getty]

The gay.

[Jack Armstrong]

Gay dude who's always lecturing us about politics?

[Joe Getty]

Sulu, that would be. Oh. Oh, come on now. Sulu is George Takei.

[Jack Armstrong]

Good one.

[Joe Getty]

George Takai.

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[Joe Getty]

Gay. Whatever. Whatever do you mean?

[Jack Armstrong]

Here's.

[Joe Getty]

Here's the thing that amuses me now that I'm, you know, on in years. These guys, they. They had to do, like, conventions, and granted, they. I'm sorry, you know what? They got together for the movies, like in the 80s and stuff like that, but for years and years and years, people would constantly ask him questions about people they worked with for two years in their 20s.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

It's like, what kind of a guy was he?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

We were all like, 26. And I did. He was fine.

[Jack Armstrong]

We worked together.

[Joe Getty]

It wasn't that big a part of my life. He got canceled after two years, for God's sake. I think it was three seasons. But, yeah, it's like guys in some of my favorite bands. I think it was David Gilmore of Pink Floyd. He was asked for the five millionth time about some sort of reunion. And he said, look, we had a project. We worked together very productively for several years. Then it was clear that we were better off working on other projects with other people. Not everything is meant to last forever. That's okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. On that subject, the Beatles. So Paul McCartney was on Stephen Colbert last night, Stephen Colbert's last show. He was Stephen Colbert's last guest. Gave him a cool signed picture of the Beatles playing on Ed Sullivan, which was at that studio on that stage where Colbert does. Did his show. Up until last night. Anyway.

[Joe Getty]

Fascist Trump had him fired.

[Jack Armstrong]

I saw some old YouTube video of John Lennon being asked for the millionth time about the Beatles breaking up. And he said, Look, I was 24 in 64 when you all discovered us. Paul and I had been playing together for almost a decade.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

So the media is acting like Stephen Colbert going off the air. Last night is like Carson in his prime and I actually looked up the numbers on that just because I wanted to talk about it. Colbert number one for much of the last many years still only drew 2 million people, which is nothing compared to what Late Night Host did back in the day. And it's just there are lots of shows that have 2 million people to watch that go off the air and nobody mentions anything about it. So you don't even know they existed. Anyway, Colbert went off the air last night and I had another point. What was the point?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, he.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wasn't he the first one that went full on? I'm just going to talk to one side of the political aisle. I don't care if I lose everybody on the other side. I think he was the first one that decided to go full time on that.

[Joe Getty]

I would agree. Yeah, Kimmel, maybe. But I don't know any who.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is a little bit from last night, the last episode,

[Joe Getty]

folks.

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[Jack Armstrong]

All right, well, fantastic. There's some, there's some funny stuff on the show. I've seen some other highlights and everything like that. And I don't agree with my other right leaning pundits out there in America. He never was funny. I think Stephen Colbert's freaking hilarious. I just also think he's highly annoying with his, where he went with this politics. Will you be tuning into the final episode of Hunting Party when it goes off the air for NBC, which has as many viewers, 2.3 million viewers or Password or Perfect Match or. I mean there's endless lists of TV shows that have roughly 2 million viewers that come and go and also work together as a team and they liked their jobs. So I just, it's just a hangover from Johnny Carson that we treat these talk shows going because when Johnny Carson went off the air, his final show, 50 million people tuned in and that was in the 90s. Is that when he finally went off in the 90s or late 80s, something like that? Whenever it was. Yeah, I think it was in the 90s, 50 million people tuned in. It was a, it was a big deal. But it doesn't mean, people leaving late night TV is a big deal forever. It's not anymore. It's just not.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I wasn't super comfortable with the whole Paramount had to curry favor with the Trump administration to approve the merger thing. The Biden administration really set the standard for. Yeah, private enterprise won't do anything until we tell them it's okay. I do not like that trend at all. But yeah, acting as though, you know, Johnny Carson was, was mowed down, you know, as he walked out of the theater in Burbank. No, not at all.

[Jack Armstrong]

So we do want to tell you about Binance, this crypto thing that you're going to want to know about, because it's about to become a household word. Wall Street Journal with an exclusive story on it. I'm really troubled about the Iran war angle of it. Turns out the Iranian military is getting billions of dollars. We're not starving them of money at all. They're getting billions of dollars through Binance.

[Joe Getty]

And that's a company that the Trump family has been uncomfortably in bed with in recent years as well. That's a factor. It certainly will be a factor in whatever impeachment comes down the road.

[Jack Armstrong]

But before we take a break and tell you all about Binance, Ian Bremmer retweeted this. We've mentioned how anytime AI comes up in any of these graduation ceremonies. Student spoo. Just a mention of AI and everybody boos. And this polling showing that AI is actually less popular than Donald Trump or the Republican Party, I mean, or the Democratic Party.

[Joe Getty]

Both.

[Jack Armstrong]

All three of those very unpopular people do not have a good view of AI right now.

[Joe Getty]

That's pretty. Once AI is in, you can't vote it out. No, there are no term limits.

[Jack Armstrong]

Pretty interesting since all the biggest companies that are driving up record stock prices every single day are all in on AI and people are like, I don't like it. Armstrong and Getty.

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Iran is seemingly sending a very provocative message to Washington with this new map. It shows large areas of control in the Strait of Hormuz that stretch to the shores of the United States Arab Emirates and Oman. Iran is now reportedly in talks with Oman over working together to control the strait and charge tolls. President Trump responding to that report this way.

[Caller or Guest]

Well, we're looking at it. We hear about it. They've negotiated, they've had a relationship with them before, and we'll see. We have total control of the Strait of Hormuz. As you know, with our blockade, the blockade's been 100% effective. Nobody's been able to get through us. We want it open, we want it free. We don't want tolls. It's international. It's an international waterway. They're not charging tolls.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm trying to figure out whether this is a big deal or not. So Iran talking with Oman about charging tolls to let boats go through the strait. Well, ain't no boats going through the strait as long as we got a blockade. And I assume part of whatever deal we make is going to be from us and the rest of the world. You don't get to charge tolls.

[Joe Getty]

Right. So I found that interesting. Trump's diploma speak is a little different. It's significantly different than what we're all used to. But his message at the end was, no way there's going to be a toll in international waters. But it was softened a couple of times with their negotiating with Oman. They've worked together in the past and they're talking about a deal. But. But why that? Why not just. That's completely unacceptable. No, that will not happen.

[Jack Armstrong]

Which is what Marco Rubio said to today. He said, that's just not gonna happen. That's not acceptable at all.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Which sort of brings us to the Wall Street Journal, big exclusive piece today. Iran moved billions through Binance with a B. That's a company. Iran moved billions through Binance to fund regime continuing into this month. So they're still doing it with the war going on.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Binance is the world's largest cryptocurrency exchange. How big a deal are Central bank of crypto.

[Jack Armstrong]

How big a deal are they? Trillions of dollars go through Binance per month, which, as I said earlier in the show, makes me feel like I'm an idiot and shouldn't even be coming on this topic because I don't know if I'd ever even heard the word Binance before, and they've got trillions going through per month. Anyway, the part that has me really concerned is the fact that billions had been flowing through Binance to various Iranian entities, including the military, leading up to the war and including recently. So our entire current war strategy of starving them of money doesn't work near as well when you find out, oh, they have many more billions than we thought they had because of this whole Binance thing. Thing. So they. No wonder they're so cocky. Maybe that's, but maybe that's why they're so cocky. They're religious zealots and they got a whole bunch of money in the bank. So they're thinking as, as Captain America often said in fights, I could do this all day long. That's what Iran is saying.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. So here are a couple of other facts around Binance that are interesting. The Wall Street Journal actually had an exclusive report in February, as I recall, similar sort that Binance was overlooking intentionally a bunch of money flowing into Iran. And they indeed fired four of their own investigators who were red flagging this stuff. And then they said, no, no, no, they weren't fired for that. The, the one guy, he kept showing

[Jack Armstrong]

a plate and the other guy, yeah,

[Joe Getty]

yeah, yeah, we think he's stealing staplers. I mean, just ridiculous. It's a giant, allegedly money laundering scheme. I mean, it's a legitimate exchange for cryptocurrency. But the world of cryptocurrency isn't exactly famous for making sure no bad actors use our services. So they've made all sorts of statements about. Binance polices this stuff very, very carefully and don't worry about it. Don't look over there. The other interesting part is that Binance's founder, Changpeng Zhao, was pardoned by Trump in October. He'd pleaded guilty to money laundering and served a four month prison sentence. But this wiped his record clean so he could go back to work in the world of finance. And then Binance was the engine to float the Trump Liberty coin. What is it? I meant to scroll down to it. Binance was a crucial backer of the Trump family's crypto venture, world Liberty Financial.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hold on a second, I'm getting a call on my Trump phone.

[Joe Getty]

I doubt it.

[Jack Armstrong]

My shoes are on the way. Okay, cool.

[Joe Getty]

Binance, crucial backer of the world Liberty Financial, Trump family crypto venture which has earned the trumps at least $1.2 billion since 2024.

[Jack Armstrong]

I understand this.

[Joe Getty]

Pardon their head guy.

[Jack Armstrong]

I understand this, of course, because I got my business degree from Trump University as I just got a phone call on my Trump phone. Hello? Oh boy.

[Joe Getty]

This, this, this will be at the heart of one or more impeachments, I suspect. And, and it's Worth pointing out that I have no reason to think the Iran aspect of this has anything to do with the Trump families profiting from.

[Jack Armstrong]

No.

[Joe Getty]

Their ridiculous meme coin.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, I don't think that either. But it doesn't have to be that.

[Joe Getty]

No, this is a problem.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is a multi level problem. It might be a whole bunch of ain't cool ways the Trump family's getting rich that are gonna get him impeached and possibly removed depending on how things go. And his entire strategy for winning the Iran war gets blown up by this story. Possibly.

[Joe Getty]

It certainly could. I don't know what percentage of the money they need they're getting through these binance backed channels, whether it's like barely enough to get by or amp, I don't know what the numbers are.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, the Journal story did say billions leading up to the war, which I guess means they have billions more than

[Joe Getty]

we thought they did and transactions as recently as this month.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Just very briefly on the whole impeachment thing, Alert listener Paolo has been our lead correspondent on this idea. He's curious whether if this stuff looks, you know, really, really damaging, whether the Republicans might think, you know, we just got a bit of fun. Farewell to Trump. Get J.D. vance into office. Unload the baggage that is Trump and the never ending hearings and impeachments and the rest of it. Trump will, you know, pardon everybody on his way out and vote for impeachment. The Republicans would.

[Jack Armstrong]

You'd need vote to convict.

[Joe Getty]

I'm sorry to be, you know, technically

[Jack Armstrong]

you'd need really like a maximum of 10 Republicans to senators to go along with it. And who knows how the Democrats do. Maybe you'd only need like 8, 7, depending on how many Senate seats they pick up. And at that point, at present it

[Joe Getty]

would take 20, but who knows?

[Jack Armstrong]

I thought you had to get there. What do you have to get to 2/3?

[Joe Getty]

2/3? 2/3.

[Jack Armstrong]

I thought it was just 60, but you might rewrite two thirds.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's the filibuster.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay. So I think let's say the Democrats end up with 52, so you don't need that many more Republicans. Go on. And by the time you got it to the Senate, you'd probably be a year and a half out from the end of Trump's political career. Yeah, I could easily see that many Republican senators thinking, let's move on to the next era. J.D. vance is president. We're running an incumbent, which will be better. I could easily see you could serve

[Joe Getty]

two complete terms because it'd be less than Two years?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Trump's term. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

What's Trump?

[Joe Getty]

I'm not saying it's going to happen, but I'm just thinking about it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, back to the crypto part. I thought this was interesting. Noah Rothman of National Review retweeted this. It's ironic that crypto is a, is like a right wing thing. The more right wing you are, the more likely you are to be really into the whole crypto money world than left wingers who don't like it. Yet in the real world, crypto is pivotal to countries like Iran, North Korea and Russia and other bad actors out there for them to survive. And those two things you wouldn't think would match up, but they do, Right?

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

I wish I knew more about crypto. I know a guy's in his 30s, he's, he decided to go back to school, got a master's, and while he was in school, he's. He was making his living doing crypto. Stu, super smart guy, like way smarter than I am about this stuff, but just, you know, recognizing trends and this and that and making trades and made quite a bit of money. And I thought I, I'm too old to learn anything new. Old dog, new tricks, look it up.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, you know, I, Speaking of old and new wisdom, when was it I heard somebody was explaining how sanctions are useful, but not nearly as useful as they sound because there are so many ways around them and ways to finance this, that and the other. What's that reality now?

[Jack Armstrong]

Sanctions.

[Joe Getty]

I'd like to hear somebody with, pardon

[Jack Armstrong]

me, sanctions, mantions I've always felt my whole life. How often do they achieve their goal? Often, often, Often not.

[Joe Getty]

Well, they can be part of a pressure campaign, but they're not a magic bullet or a cure all or whatever metaphor you want to use. They're just an element of a strategy. And now you're imposing the strictest sanctions. Well, now with technology and crypto and bitcoin, binance and the rest of it, they'd probably laugh. As I said earlier, it's probably like, oh, this atm's out of, out of commission. I'll go to the one down the street. In effect, I don't like the world.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's getting too complicated and I'm not smart enough for it. Getting to something I mentioned earlier. Do I have that handy?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, I've got a story that I can't wait to get to. In fact, I'm going to get to it right now while you're looking for yours. I win. You remember the story out of Arcadia, California where that Mayor Eileen Wang Wang resigned from her post and pleaded guilty to acting as a spy for China. Absolutely love this. The mainstream media are doing what they do best, being very concerned about the real story. Jack A Possible Racist backlash oh my God. NBC News lamented that Wang's resignation had, quote, sparked backlash and reignited fears of anti Asian discrimination. The double bylined article cited unspecified racist comments that appeared on social media feeds after the details of the case became public. The authors then quoted several experts and advocates who are very concerned about the dangerous rise in anti China rhetoric, including accusations of dual loyalty against Chinese Americans. Good Lord. Unbelievable.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh no.

[Joe Getty]

How do I swear If China attacked the west coast, millions were dead. They occupied a good deal of California, Oregon and Washington State. The lead story in a lot of news would be fear of an anti Chinese backlash has a lot of people worried you suck for some reason.

[Jack Armstrong]

That reminds me of one of your favorite mock conservative headlines that I hear people throw around a lot. Asteroid Hits Where Earth Wipes out Human Population and Women Minorities Hit hardest.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. Yeah, that's one of my all time faves.

[Jack Armstrong]

Trump is more popular than an AI according to current polling.

[Joe Getty]

His current numbers are not fantastic.

[Jack Armstrong]

No they aren't. Shows you where people's attitudes about AI are. Maybe we'll hit that. We're going to finish strong. Next Armstrong and Gettysburg.

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I forgot to mention in the back

[Jack Armstrong]

and forth battle between Governor Newsom and Chevron, the gas station Newsom Gavin Gavin Newsom of Governor of California had been blaming Chevron for raking you over the coils, jacking the prices, making as much money as possible. Chevron Put signs at their stations, which I hadn't seen. This went viral yesterday. The gas stations in California, Chevron, Sacramento policies did this. Now you pay more signs at the gas pumps. So that's why Gavin Newsome came out today. Don't pay extra for tech Tron gas or whatever they have at Chevron, which I never paid any attention to. They're just gouging you. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Chevron's a little more expensive because their stores are nicer. It's just like, you know, Nordstrom's is nicer than Macy's. It's just like that to me. I don't, I don't think much about it.

[Joe Getty]

And Gav's trying to cover his ass because he drove them out of the state by making it impossible to run refineries.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Any who, it's Memorial Day weekend. We're headed out the door here on a Friday. We've got a three day weekend. I hope you do too. Although I realize when early in the first like 20 years of my radio career, I always worked on Memorial Day weekend. My son and the Boy Scouts will be doing what he did last year on Memorial Day. They'll be at the local cemetery in our town. And they get there earlier and they put little American flags on all of the spots where we have veterans in the cemetery. It's really, really cool. And then there's a little ceremony with the band and speeches and stuff like that. So I really look forward to that.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Last year, Judy and I visited one of our national cemeteries on Memorial Day weekend. It was incredibly moving. Suggest do the same and remember while you're having a big time and kind of greeting the summer and barbecuing and having fun with family and friends, which is perfectly appropriate and a very American thing to do. We lost 2400 men in the Spanish American War. 7000 plus in the War on Terror, 13,000 in the Mexican American War. War of 1812, 20,000American Revolutionary War, 25,000 to win your freedom. The Korean War, 36,005. Vietnam, more than 58,000. World War I, 116,000 men, World War II, 405,399 and the American Civil War. 620,000 men who sacrificed everything for our freedom.

[Jack Armstrong]

I had hot dogs and hamburgers last night. Why did I do that?

[Joe Getty]

Have them again and again and again.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a good point.

[Joe Getty]

Point Murica.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a pretty good point.

[Joe Getty]

My only regret of getting older is I can no longer comfortably do the combo unless it's a very small Burger

[Jack Armstrong]

of one of each.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, one of each. It's. It's a lot of food for me.

[Jack Armstrong]

I had a cheeseburger and a hot dog last night. It was delicious. Henry had two cheeseburgers and two hot dogs. And I said, you're a teenage boy. That's what you're supposed to do. You're supposed.

[Joe Getty]

He said, should I do this?

[Jack Armstrong]

You're a teenage boy. Boy. This is what you do when you're a teenage boy.

[Joe Getty]

And he roared like a lion.

[Jack Armstrong]

Exactly. And you know what? They were delicious. Oh, yeah, man, if you don't overcook the burger to me, man, if. If the burger is still pink on the inside. Oh, man, that on a good bun with the little ketchup and stuff.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that's so you know there's the risk of E. Coli when you. You should get out of my house. The burger until it's so hard you're not drive a nail into oak with it or.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know what I do. Since we were grilling the backyard, I'd throw them in the pool.

[Joe Getty]

Pool.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're okay throwing you in the pool in your clothes. I'm not helping you. Get out.

[Joe Getty]

Hold her head under optional till the thrashing stops. Oh, no. Too dark. Too, too dark.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sorry, I went too dark. A little bit too dark. On Memorial Day weekend. We need time for final thoughts. Is Hansen going to join us for final thoughts today? He said. Oh, I thought he was. Thought I saw executive running down the hall.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Getting next to the microphone. I thought maybe he'd join in. It was nice hearing from Katie a little bit earlier, who won't be joining us for final thoughts, but she told us a little bit about being a mom for the last 10 days and a new baby. So if you didn't get that in our three, you can look for the podcast. Armstrong and Getty on demand.

[Joe Getty]

Another reference to the American Revolutionary War. Reading Tim Sandifer's wonderful book proclaiming Liberty. Jack, I know you're reading a great founding father's title. My favorite Second amendment poster of all time. The Second Amendment. George Washington didn't use freedom of speech to beat the British. He shot him.

[Jack Armstrong]

Shot him in the face. Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, and I love this one too. Americans will cross a river on Christmas Eve to kill you while you're. While you sleep. We've done it before. Let's get a final thought.

[Jack Armstrong]

Michelangelo, Final thought.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Barbecue and Indy 500. I love the Indianapolis 500.

[Stephen Colbert]

That is the one sporting event I

[Joe Getty]

would love to go to and it reminds me of my dad because we

[Stephen Colbert]

used to walk watch it together.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's awesome. That's awesome.

[Joe Getty]

That's great. You should someday, Michael. It's amazing. Jack, final thought.

[Jack Armstrong]

You've been to the Indy 500, Joe.

[Joe Getty]

I have, yeah, once.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. We did the Coca Cola 601 year when we lived in Charlotte, which Kyle Busch was supposed to race at, but he died unexpectedly yesterday. I'm gonna be watching that story over the weekend trying to figure out what I need to watch out for.

[Joe Getty]

Holy cow. Grimm's Fairy tales. I'll let my thoughts on the revolution stand as my final thoughts haven't. A happy great Memorial Day weekend.

[Jack Armstrong]

We have a full minute left, Michael.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah we do.

[Joe Getty]

I think I'm supposed to say have a happy safe Memorial Day weekend, but whatever. Like me saying that'll make you safer. Don't do stupid stuff and you increase your chance of surviving till Tuesday.

[Jack Armstrong]

Whatever. What sort of stupid stuff are you talking about?

[Joe Getty]

Undercooked burgers. You don't want to eat any. Undercover cooked burgers. They're so dangerous.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

[Joe Getty]

So many people. Thanks. So little time. Go to Armstrong and getty.com. drop us a note if you see something we ought to be talking about next week. Mailbag at armstrong and getty.com. seriously. Pick up a an enforced thought law T shirt. Armstrong and Getty Superstore at Armstrong&Yeti.com if

[Jack Armstrong]

the potato salad's been sitting out for more than five minutes, you're taking your life into your own hands.

[Joe Getty]

Eat it faster. Don't let it sit down anymore. Shovel it down.

[Jack Armstrong]

I like mayonnaise when it's been out in the sun for a while. We'll see you Tuesday. God bless America.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty. There's a freaking war going on.

[Jack Armstrong]

They are ruthless. Well, you're being a wise guy with

[Joe Getty]

me a little bit.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think that you may be over egging the pudding.

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Enough talk.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's a little too much talky dog. I haven't said a word, so stop yelling at me.

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Come on.

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I told you.

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Get the out.

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Whip up Animus. The left against the right. The right against the left.

[Jack Armstrong]

Animus.

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Animus.

[Jack Armstrong]

Have a great Friday, you mother.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

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