Catering & Capabilities

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: "Catering & Capabilities"

Date: July 13, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Armstrong & Getty launch into a passionate discussion on the state of criminal justice in California and the United States, focusing especially on the consequences of lenient criminal policies, repeat offenders, and the societal patterns they create. Shifting gears mid-show, the hosts dissect escalating tensions in the Middle East, with breaking news about Trump reinstating the blockade of the Strait of Hormuz and what this means for U.S. foreign policy, global security, and the risk of confrontation with Iran. The show also features lighter tangents about health, public restrooms, infectious diseases, and quick hits on U.S. political news.

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Main Discussion Points and Insights

1. Soft-on-Crime Policies in California and Beyond

(03:04 – 12:49)

• Sheriff Jim Cooper is cited as criticizing the California legislature for their unwillingness to hold criminals accountable, linking progressive policy to increased public danger.
• Getty shares a personal story about being assaulted by a repeat offender who should have been jailed, expressing anger at the system prioritizing offender welfare over victims:
  • "The cop tells me the real tragedy is that the guy doesn't have someplace he can go to get more help. He’s a criminal... He should have been in jail." – Getty (03:55)
• Armstrong and Getty both question the ideological logic of lawmakers who prioritize social explanations over public safety, labeling extreme versions of socialism as "a mental illness."
  • "You have to suck down the delicious Kool Aid of the Marxist cult, really, to pretend because it's so clearly what they are advocating is so clearly counter to what we all recognize about reality." – Michael/Armstrong (05:14)
• Referencing a Charles Lehman article, the hosts walk through statistics showing a small percentage of offenders are responsible for a disproportionate share of crime:
  • "One systematic review... found that 10% of the population that is most criminally active accounts for 66% of all crime, on average." – Michael (09:29)
• The psychological scars and PTSD of victims, not just physical injuries, are discussed as a severe, often overlooked consequence of repeat criminal behavior.

2. Nationwide Crime Patterns / Media Narratives

(12:51 – 15:03; 18:12 – 20:42)

• The conversation expands to other cities like Raleigh, NC, referencing viral “teen takeovers” and mass lawlessness, with the police unprepared for the scale and violence of the events.
• Armstrong and Getty bemoan that society increasingly tolerates lawlessness, blaming a lack of enforcement and a criminal justice system more concerned with offenders than victims.
  • "Our entire criminal justice system... is geared toward sympathy and helping and counseling for the offenders. Nobody talks about the victims." – Michael (12:26)
• They stress that normalization of lawlessness leads to further erosion of social order.

3. Restrooms, Health, and Public Infrastructure

(11:58 – 15:17; 19:09 – 20:42)

• Getty vents about the loss of accessible public restrooms in California, tying it again to reluctance to enforce laws regarding the homeless.
• Side discussion on a nationwide outbreak of a diarrhea-causing parasite, cruise ship illness, and protocols for public health emergencies.

4. Middle East Crisis: Strait of Hormuz Blockade

(15:21 – 39:05; 24:33 – 39:27)

• Breaking news breaks repeatedly about Trump reimposing a blockade on Iran through the Strait of Hormuz, with details around charging a 20% toll on all cargo for U.S. security escort services (24:37).
• Iranian officials vow to oppose U.S. action, declaring, “the armed forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran will deal forcefully with any disruption” (25:12).
• Trump’s rhetoric is scrutinized for its severity and performative style:
  • “Such a Trump thing to say... Orders have already been given and the U.S. Military is ready, willing and able… to decimate and destroy all areas of Iran. Praise be to Allah. President Donald J. Trump.” – Getty, quoting Trump (26:14)
• The hosts question the plausibility and constitutionality of "dead hand" military orders from a President if assassinated.
• Multiple bombings of Iranian targets over recent days are reported, with ongoing attacks on international shipping. The hosts express skepticism about Iranian claims that “rogue elements” are behind the attacks versus coordinated government action.
• The crux of U.S. strategy, they contend, is denying Iran nuclear weapons capability:
  • "Iran announces they have a nuclear weapon... would be the worst day in world history for humans. I really think that's true." – Getty (29:25)
• Trump’s “Guardian of the Hormuz Strait” plan draws both skepticism and humor, as Getty muses about theme-park-style branding.
• Discussion features expert commentary (retired CENTCOM commander, John Bolton), advocating for strong U.S. military action and even occupation of Iranian territory if necessary:
  • "We have the capability to do that. That capability is resident in the U.S. Military should the President elect to employ it." – Ret. CENTCOM Commander (clip 84, 34:39)
• Armstrong doubts whether Trump will follow through on threats, but Michael suggests Trump’s credibility is now on the line, expecting at minimum a “defanging” of the IRGC.

5. Other Notable Topics and Quick Hits

(41:20 – 45:51)

• Rumors swirl around Lindsey Graham’s Senate seat with Trump advocating for Graham's sister, while others back Trey Gowdy.
• Preview of an upcoming discussion on economic sentiment versus economic reality: why are Americans pessimistic despite strong indicators?
• Mention the Charlie Kirk assassination trial and dismissal of conspiracy theories surrounding it.

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• On Repeat Offenders and Law Enforcement
  • “I spend 90% of my time babysitting 3% of the population.” – Armstrong/recalling police interviews (07:11)
• On Prosecutorial Philosophy
  • “Socialism is a mental illness... It doesn’t make any sense.” – Getty (04:54)
• On Victims vs. Offenders
  • “Our criminal justice system... is geared toward sympathy for the offenders. Nobody talks about the victims.” – Michael (12:26)
• On Middle East Escalation
  • “It’s international water, bitches. Nobody controls it.” – Michael (25:42)
  • “Iran announces they have a nuclear weapon would be the worst day in world history for humans.” – Getty (29:25)
  • “We will be the world’s policemen, but it’s expensive. You gotta help us.” – Michael (31:58)
• On Trump’s Rhetoric and Policy
  • “The USA will, from this point forward, be known as the Guardian of the Hormuz Strait.” – Getty, quoting Trump (32:08)
• On Society’s Drift
  • “Lawlessness is observed and lawlessness is not punished, people decide lawlessness is okay.” – Michael (12:51)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• California soft-on-crime debate and personal story: 03:04 – 06:13
• The Pareto principle in crime and victim impact: 07:11 – 08:47
• National crime wave, Raleigh ‘teen takeover’ event: 12:51 – 15:03
• Public restrooms / homelessness frustration: 11:58 – 12:26
• Health outbreaks and cruise ship illness: 19:09 – 20:42
• Trump’s Strait of Hormuz blockade announcement: 24:33 – 32:08
• Iran’s reaction and expert military analysis: 33:54 – 36:42
• Will Trump follow through? Hosts’ predictions: 38:20 – 39:27
• Lindsey Graham succession & preview of next hour: 41:20 – 43:32

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Episode Tone and Style

The discussion is conversational, sometimes humorous, and often emotionally charged, especially when recounting personal experiences with crime or assessing life-and-death stakes in international events. Armstrong & Getty combine passionate arguments, skepticism of political posturing, and a sense of fatalistic humor, particularly in their treatment of news “branding” and Trump’s theatrical style.

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Useful For:

• Listeners interested in crime policy, public safety, and the consequences of de-policing.
• Those wanting a summary of breaking news on U.S.-Iran tensions and global security implications.
• Fans of Armstrong & Getty’s blend of sharp critique, personal anecdote, and frank humor.

Transcript

[Armstrong]

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[Getty]

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[Armstrong]

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[Getty]

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[Michael]

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[Getty]

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center,

[Michael]

Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty.

[Getty]

And now, here's Armstrong and Yeti.

[Michael]

There are some folks in the Legislature, and they're true believers. For whatever reason, they don't want anybody held accountable to go to a county jail or prison. And that's what we're dealing with with some folks in California. Sheriff Jim Cooper, longtime friend of the Armstrong and Getty show, he's the sheriff of Sacramento county in California. He's talking about the progressive governance of California. And now it's many to say soft on crime is to really not describe it properly. The policies are don't jail anybody because that's part of capitalist oppression.

[Getty]

Right. I almost can't talk about this subject because it makes me so angry and worried actually, since my family, when my kids were little, we were verbally assaulted by a guy that should have been in prison because of all the crimes he had committed. He ended up back in prison because of what he said to me and my family. I've told that story a million times. I thought I was quite possibly going to die in a knife or gun fight with the guy, but he should have been in jail a long time ago. And when I called the cops, I'll never forget this, when I called the cops, the first cop I talked to said, you know what's really a tragedy is that we don't have someplace we can put this guy so we could get the mental. Oh, is that the tragedy? As my kids are crying behind me, I thought they were going to die like 10 minutes ago. And the cop tells me the real tragedy is that the guy doesn't have someplace he can go to get more help. He's a criminal. He's been a criminal. He's advocated a criminal. He'd done all kinds of horrible things. He should have been in jail.

[Michael]

Right.

[Getty]

These people are nuts and they're gonna get more people hurt or killed.

[Michael]

And Sheriff Cooper, in that same interview with the excellent Ashley Zavala, points out that when there are like mental health diversion programs, they're not funded because they don't believe in putting anybody behind bars. Anyway, I thought this was so interesting.

[Getty]

That's why I've dec that socialism is a mental illness. It's an actual mental illness, because it doesn't make any sense. You can't make, you know, there are all kinds of political policy differences you can have with people, but you can understand their argument. This doesn't make any sense.

[Michael]

Right? Right. You have to suck down the delicious Kool Aid of the, the Marxist cult, really, to pretend because it's so clearly what they are advocating is so clearly counter to what we all recognize about reality and humanity. Why really? Socialism works best on the young and stupid people. But Charles Lehman wrote a great piece for the Dispatch a while back entitled why Don't We Lock Up Repeat Offenders? And it starts, Jack, with a disturbingly similar situation to your own. It wasn't long ago that police charged Hector De Leon, an emotionally disturbed and homeless 51 year old, with slashing six New Yorkers in an unprovoked attack at Penn Station in New York. De Leon is a vibrant criminal history. Another slashing committed in Newark, New Jersey four years ago, right across the river. And six other prior arrests including aggravated assault, unlawful possession of a weapon use or possession of drugs, assault, domestic assault and criminal mischief.

[Getty]

Because of capitalism, you see, that's why he did that.

[Michael]

Oh, for God. Or global warming. Climate change. Did you see? I shouldn't get off on this tangent. I really shouldn't. National Geographic is trying to. And they've been captured by the progressives, like a lot of so called scientific institutions trying to pitch the idea that selling girls off as child brides in Muslim countries is because of climate change. It's not because of their perverse culture or sick view of religion. No, it's climate change. Unbelievable.

[Getty]

We got to do some of the writing around that because it is horrifying.

[Michael]

Yeah, yeah, there'll be plenty of time. That'll still be a problem in a year and a decade anyway. So Lehman asked the obvious question. Why was a violent criminal with a string of priors, a history of deranged behavior on the street, why wasn't he locked up in a prison or a mental health facility or something, and why do such people seem to cause so much of our crime problems? And this is, and I think this is probably not necessary for a lot of you, but this is an absolute ironclad illustration of how idiotic the. We can't incarcerate our way out of the social problems we have. This is about capitalism? No, it's about a few people who victimize others. They are predators. Every cop we've ever talked to, done a ride along with, says the same thing. I spend 90% of my time babysitting 3% of the population. Well, that's not quite the percentage that some of the scientists come up with. But frequent offenders drive a massive share of crime. It's one of the most well established findings in criminology. It's undeniable. But it turns out that in many states and cases, our criminal justice system isn't designed with that reality in mind. So people like De Leon can keep offending and slashing can you imagine? You get sliced open. I mean, when people don't die, I think other people underestimate how horrible it is. What happened. Oh, thank God. He's injured. He's expected to recover. Oh, please. Think about it for a minute. I don't want to dwell on it because it's horrifying, but you wouldn't sleep right for months. Oh, you'd be disfigured for life. You'd be dealing with medical treatments and infections and scottiness.

[Getty]

Well, and that part, the PTSD of like, being out in public or walking down the street or getting on a bus or in anything ever again, well,

[Michael]

you can speak to that. Somebody with wild eyes approaches you quickly, can you imagine the horror, the utter terror that would cause for maybe the rest of your life anyway? So the De Leones of the world keep getting turned loose. But the upside of this is if we go back to sanity, we have a great opportunity to bring crime under control again because we've done it more than once. A few offenders commit most of the crime is the closest thing we have to an iron law of criminology. Offending follows what social scientists call a Pareto distribution or the 8020 rule. And this is at least 80% of crime is committed by at most 20% of the offenders. And the true concentration is probably greater than that. One systematic review a few years ago found that 10% of the population that is most criminally active accounts for 66% of all crime, on average.

[Getty]

Yeah, 10 I could believe. I don't believe 20% of people are out there committing these crimes.

[Michael]

Yeah, yeah. And it's not a new finding. I mean, they did a giant study following a cohort of nearly 10,000 Philadelphia boys born in 1945. They found that 6% of the boys were responsible for roughly half of all police contacts observed same. Oh, in Sweden, 2.4 million Swedes found that just 1% were responsible for 63% of all criminal offenses.

[Getty]

Absolutely believe that.

[Michael]

And do you want more? Most gun violence is highly concentrated in tight social networks, a phenomenon that's shown up in Baltimore, Boston, Washington, Chicago, San Francisco and Oakland, etc. It's gang bangers almost exclusively who commit crimes. One of the reasons you might think otherwise is that the media is uncomfortable with that because it's frequently black gang bangers, sometimes Hispanic, sometimes Asian, but it's generally not white people. And for the idiotic woke reasons we've discussed a million times, they're uncomfortable reporting that. So if white guy goes crazy is available, they amplify that like crazy. And to be shot is to be shot. I'm not in favor of that, but you know the point I'm trying to make. But, so why does this happen? Simple answer is the life of crime is the product of many different rare events and well, they go into it. Frequent shooters, for example, tend to occur only in environments with a lot of well armed young men with little oversight and a strong culture of honor.

[Getty]

There's some shots.

[Michael]

I'm gonna shoot you. Yeah. Frequent shoplifters tend to be seriously mentally ill and or addicted to drugs and also have frequent opportunities to shoplift. Peer groups, family environment and genes also play a role. In short, a lot of things have gone wrong for someone to become a frequent offender. So most people don't. But if you have a frequent offender, they're going to keep offending. It's as close as he said to an iron law of criminology as exists.

[Getty]

Lock them up.

[Michael]

Lock them up. Enforce the law.

[Getty]

I got so frustrated yesterday. This happens to me a lot in California. I remember how it's a problem when I'm on vacation. I'm driving around other states, but can't find a restroom anywhere, can't convenience store anywhere. You stop just because they're all locked up, because they don't want to deal with homeless people. We're willing to give away the idea of having public restrooms in many parts of California or across the country because we just don't want to enforce the law. Makes me so angry.

[Michael]

Right. And you know, Jim Cooper in that interview, one of the points he made, I don't think we have the audio of it, but he said, look, we've got to start thinking about the victims of crime again. Our entire criminal justice system, he's talking, talking about Cal. Unicornia is geared toward sympathy and helping and counseling for the offenders. Nobody talks about the victims. Thank you, Coop, for saying that.

[Getty]

Yes, this is exactly right.

[Michael]

Brings us to your point about when lawlessness is observed and lawlessness is not punished, people decide lawlessness is. Okay, here's a story from the other side of the country. Raleigh, North Carolina, which is an absolutely lovely place. Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill, you got the major universities of North Carolina, you got all sorts of eggheads and tech people and families and all. But in Raleigh, they had a shocking event the other day. It was one of those, what are they, teen takeovers. 1:30 in the morning, you've got as many as 8,000 young people, many juveniles, many from outside the city, that gathered in and took over one commercial area in Raleigh. Ran roughshod, committing crimes, robberies, theft, et cetera, acts of violence. Then later converged on another area. What followed was a night marred by disorder or disorder and violence when the police say left nine people injured by gunfire, led to the seizure of nearly a dozen guns, resulted in dozens of arrests of young people and delinquency cases against multiple minors. Scenes spread across social media. News coverage of overflowing sidewalks and streets shouting and cursing, sirens and music blaring, crime scene tape, people face down being handcuffed. And the police chief, who's had a 26 year career there in Raleigh, said it was heartbreaking and unacceptable. And he says, we're prepared for the crowd size. What we were not prepared for were the number of firearms we were recovering off individuals and the desire to. To commit criminal acts. Where did that come from? The intent, the lawlessness? Well, I think we answered the question already.

[Getty]

Yeah.

[Michael]

Did you? I'm asking y', all, or Jack or Michael or anybody. Listen, did you grow up thinking, you know, it'd be fun if a bunch of us got together and just absolutely trampled on the law in one city or another? Of course not. It's a societal rot and it's caused by permitting lawlessness all the time. All right, end of rant question.

[Getty]

How's your stool? Got a couple of stomach bugs going across the country and lots of people

[Michael]

are having problems eating and drinking on a cruise ship for a couple of weeks. Troubling, is the answer.

[Getty]

About as much of that as I need to know.

[Michael]

You asked the question.

[Getty]

That's true.

[Michael]

I did.

[Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Getty]

And we are going to close the straight. I guess Trump's just announced it. The blockade is back on. Okay, I guess that whole thing is over. Ceasefire, MoU, all of it is over. More on that coming up. To stay here.

[Michael]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Armstrong]

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[Child]

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[Getty]

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[Michael]

House?

[Armstrong]

No idea. Last week it was dinosaurs.

[Getty]

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[Child]

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[Michael]

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[Michael]

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[Michael]

Wow. It was on this day in 1979, that radio DJ stage Steve Dahl staged Disco Demolition night at Comiskey park, the White Sox field of play. That's. That's crazy. Yeah. I was a Chicagoan at the time, where I grew up. He. He later became like one of my favorite radio guys of all time. He and his partner, just a publicity stunt that went crazy and they ended up having to cancel the second game of the double header.

[Getty]

They actually canceled a Major League baseball game.

[Michael]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because they literally blew up a bunch of disco records.

[Getty]

Because I hated disco.

[Michael]

Yeah, Disco sucks. Was the. He worked for the rock station.

[Getty]

Oh, okay.

[Michael]

And. And so they did that. And the crowd rushed the field and tore up the turf, and there are shards of LPs everywhere. And. Oh, it's just case I was scandalous at the time. Made his career, though.

[Getty]

I asked a question before the break. How's your stool? This headline, explosive Diarrhea Parasite Surfaces as Health Officials fear national Surge. Apparently it's happening all over the country. Certainly happening in California.

[Michael]

Parasites.

[Getty]

There's a couple of different things are going on. There's something that was on lettuce and then there's something that's in the water. Anyway, coast to coast, people are struggling. Imodium is the answer. Hanson was talking about that. I. I remember back in the day, I used to lean on a modium now and then. But you want to get stopped. You want to get shut down like the straight of Hormuz. I mean, nothing going in or out, right. El modium will do the trick.

[Michael]

Yeah. Yeah, boy. We were on a cruise ship for two weeks and one of the cruise ships that docked next to us at one of the charming Alaska towns actually had an outbreak of the poopy disease. We did not. We're on quite a small ship. But I actually, in a question and answer session with the captain, asked as expert interviewer that I am, I asked, what do you worry about? What's. What's the toughest part of your job? What do you think about. Because my complimented them first of all. Yeah, I don't want to incision in my recession, whatever it is. No, he said. Outbreaks. Outbreaks of illness, he said. And trained for. We had protocols. We're good at it. We know what to do and all, but it's just, it's. It's constant part of the job. So, yeah, luckily we dodged that icky, icky bullet.

[Getty]

Speaking of Lindsey Graham's aorta, as he is only nine years and a few months older than me. Is there anything you can do to see this coming or prevent it? Or is it just one of those things?

[Michael]

There could be some like test. Well, yeah, you could get like. I can't remember what the. What the examination is one of your looking inside you with technology. The old how's your father? Right. The old X ray, CAT scan, Ekgref, whatever it is. But it, it could see that you have an aneurysm in your aorta. A bulging that frequently can be the cause of the rescission. What do you call it? The tearing in your aorta. Sometimes there are signs in advance, but you know. But sometimes everybody has done correct.

[Getty]

Yeah.

[Michael]

Can just be cardiovascular disease. First symptom, sudden mortality.

[Getty]

Oh, okay. So Trump just announced we are like a modium. Closes you up. Trump is going to close the straight Hormuz again. He says if he means it. And that's a big question. Of course, if he means it. Things are about to get really jazzy in the Middle East. We got the latest there's quite a few big announcements that have happened since we came on the air.

[Armstrong]

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[Getty]

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[Michael]

and here's the lead is that the President posted that the blockade is back on.

[Getty]

In fact, the President posted that the

[Michael]

US Is now going to be known as the Guardian of the Hormuz strait

[Getty]

and charge 20% of all cargo shipped

[Michael]

as reimbursement for providing security.

[Getty]

Now, Iran has made it clear that

[Michael]

they're going to fight, that we will.

[Child]

And no, sir, circumstances allow the United States to interfere in the management of the Strait of Hormuz, and we will not allow it to do so. The armed forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran will deal forcefully with any disruption to commercial vessels and oil tankers used by this invading and pirate US Military outside the route designated by Iran.

[Getty]

Okay, well, if everybody's serious about what they're saying, and that's a fairly big if, especially on our side, I think, as Trump says a lot of things and doesn't follow through on them, at least so far. But if everybody's serious there, things are about to get really exciting there in the Middle east in the war in Iran and maybe exploding into a greater Middle Eastern war as Iran has been firing at all their neighbors. And the neighbors at some point, I assume, gonna get tired of it.

[Michael]

Let me respond to the Iranian spokesperson there. It's international water, bitches. Nobody controls it. And if we have to control it to keep it open, all right, it's temporary. But no, you don't get to control it. No way.

[Getty]

So let's back up a little bit here. All the way back to, I don't know if you followed while you were on vacation, all the assassination attempts, threats, stories, Iran wanting to kill Trump.

[Michael]

Yep.

[Getty]

And that seems to be a real thing. And they've upped the security on J.D. vance and Donald Trump and all kinds of different things. And we switched planes and when he came back and all the different sort of stuff. So Trump truthed out over the weekend on that topic. 1,000 missiles are locked and loaded and aimed at the Islamic Republic of Iran, with thousands of more to immediately follow should the Iranian government act on its threat. Pronounced in many corners of the globe to assassinate or attempt to assassinate the sitting President of the United States of America, in this case, me. Such a Trump thing to say. Orders have already been given and the US Military is ready, willing and able for a one year period of time, subject to extension, to completely decimate and destroy all areas of Iran. Praise be to Allah. President Donald J. Trump.

[Michael]

Wow, that was very Trumpian. Oh, my God.

[Getty]

Anyway, he says he's got orders out there. If he is killed, here's what you're supposed to do. I don't know quite know how that works because, I mean, in reality, because if he is dead, then you got a new commander in chief that they're supposed to listen to. I don't know if the orders of the previous commander in chief make any difference at that point?

[Michael]

I don't think we've got a dead hand of the former president clause in the Constitution, at least not that I recall seeing.

[Getty]

Then over the weekend, Iran, well, somebody in Iran started shooting at ships again. And they did it several days in a row. Why are they doing that? What is that all about? I don't know. Well, so Trump got really angry about that. As you know, we bombed him two nights in a row, took a day off, then bombed the crap out of him again. Saturday night, 140 sites struck, biggest night of bombing, I think, since the war started. And officials in Iran said that Iranian negotiators blamed the ship attacks on rogue military units. They said it's people they have no control over. Rogue members of the Republican Revolutionary Guard.

[Michael]

Wow.

[Getty]

Well, our officials told the New York Times that we have told the Iranians, get them under control or you're not gonna have a good outcome is what they said. So you got that? Is that true or not? I don't know. Is it rogue members of the IRGC or is it at the direction of somebody who's in charge? And this is just a. They're just effing with this. Who knows? I mean, there's a long history in the Middle east of people who try to make deals with the United States or Israel getting assassinated or attacked because the hardliners don't like deals.

[Armstrong]

Right.

[Getty]

I thought this was interesting. One of three senior American officials talking to the New York Times said that no final nuclear deal would be reached unless Iran turned over to the United States all the nuclear dust, the bomb grade uranium fuel. So at least somebody in the White House is telling the New York Times there ain't gonna be no deal unless they get on board with the you don't get a nuclear weapon thing. I hope that is true. As I've said over and over again, I really believe this. Iran announces they have a nuclear weapon and they have a nuclear weapon would be the worst day in world history for humans. I really think that. I really think that's true. I wish Trump would do a primetime speech and explain that to people. Iran gets a nuclear weapon. Bu. The worst day in world history. Yeah. The price of gas for the summertime ain't nothing compared to a bunch of nihilist nut job, religious nut jobs getting a nuclear weapon. And then maybe the mainstream media would stop reporting on this war like it's the only thing that matters in the war is whether the price of gas is going up or down.

[Michael]

Right, Yeah, I agree.

[Getty]

That drives me crazy. Now, let's bring us up to speed to today, because that's a heck of a thing. Trump announced over the weekend the strait was open. A whole bunch of people were saying, doesn't appear to be ain't no ships going through there. So I don't know in what sense exactly. It's open. Trump retweeted this, or retruth this. The Hormuz Strait is open, all caps, and will remain open with or without Iran. We are reinstating the Iranian blockade. Okay. Sounds like the whole ceasefire, MoU thing, period, is completely over.

[Michael]

Boy. So it turned out to be completely ineffective. That's funny, because there were only 84

[Getty]

signs that that was true and only everybody was saying that, from Fox to, you know, msnbc.

[Michael]

Right.

[Getty]

I don't know what to say about that other than I hope it was Trump just, like, going to the very, very end of trying to avoid the worst parts of war and giving it more chances than he probably should have. And that he means what he's. What he's saying today. He said, we're reinstating the Iranian blockade, so named because it's only stopping Iran's ships or customers from entering or leaving. All other countries will have fair and open use of the Strait. Except we just said we're going to charge a 20% toll. The USA will be, from this point forward, known as the Guardian of the Hormuz Strait. It's like the name of a movie made. That guy that made all the Lord of the Rings movies the Guardian of the Hormuz Strait. But as such, as a matter of Fairness, in all caps, we will be reimbursed at the rate of 20% on all cargo shipped for any and all costs necessary to do the job of providing safety and security to this very volatile section of the world.

[Michael]

That, too, is also quite Trumpian, but I get it. Yes, we will be the world's policemen, but it's expensive. You gotta help us.

[Getty]

The job of providing safety and security to this very volatile section of the world. The process and formation will begin immediately. Thank you for your attention to this matter. So he's saying right now, straight is open. We're going to make sure boats get through there. We're charging you a 20% toll. Now, of course, the people that don't want to pay that toll would make the argument that. Yeah, before. Before you attacked Iran, we set ships through there all the time. Didn't cost us nothing. It was open and it was free. Yeah.

[Michael]

What are you going to do omelets, eggs, etc.

[Getty]

Iran is not going to whether it's on purpose or it's just rogue elements, they are not going to allow ships to go through.

[Michael]

Why would they fire on ships?

[Getty]

That's been my question for a week.

[Michael]

One of my favorite writers on foreign policy emerging really in the last six months. He writes for the Wall Street Journal these days, the musically named Yaroslav Trofimov. Terrific writer, he says for the Iranian regime, keeping a chokehold over the Strait of Hormuzz turned out to be more important than the tens of billions of dollars in sanction relief, sanctions relief from the Trump administration. That is because Tehran is playing a long game. Iranian officials believe the country has finally emerged as a regional hegemon after the US and Israel failed to achieve their main goals in the war they unleashed in February. And as long as Tehran suspense this, cements this new status by securing a permanent arrangement to control the vital waterway and dominating the Persian Gulf economies along with it, then the rest, including American sanctions relief, will eventually follow. They've got to keep control of the Strait of Hormuz, that is their new nuclear weapon, is the very, very short summary.

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[Michael]

Yeah. Starting with what you were elucidating. What are the stakes here? It's all about Iran getting a nuclear weapon. That's how this all started. Well, you know, I was about to say the other card we could play is blowing more beards off. But as Bolton makes a really interesting point in his piece that part of the problem we're having right now is we so successfully decapitated their regime that what we have now is not anything like a flowchart. We've got a series of quote unquote heads of authority with various kinds of clout and vulnerability. They're competing for power, but none can consistently dominate or run the show. And so was that a rogue element or something that fired on those ships? Maybe, maybe not. Maybe they were best frenzies with, with the, the civilian guys last week, but now they've split this week, nobody's sure. So, boy, again, you'd love to blow a few more beards off, but would that make it even more difficult. Do you have to in essence let their leadership coalesce for to get peace? It's. It's a conundrum.

[Getty]

I don't know if I believe that. I don't know if I believe it's rogue element.

[Michael]

Well, that's. I'm just saying it's. It's difficult to know.

[Getty]

Sure. Congratulations, everybody. We're all part of being the guardian of the straight of Horus. I don't know if we get a patch to wear or hats.

[Michael]

It's a responsibility I take seriously.

[Getty]

Does he mean it? Trump's willing to say really strong things and then completely walk away from them.

[Michael]

I'm a. I'm a betting man and although I did not set foot in a casino during my vacation, though there

[Getty]

were a few on the boat or on in Alaska.

[Michael]

There actually was one on the boat. It was small, but I just wasn't feeling it. But as a betting man, generally, I think this time he means it. He understands that his credibility is on the line in a way that, that it hasn't been before. And you will see forceful, forceful steps taken to at least defang the IRGC's ability to threaten shipping. Whether it'll be successful or not is difficult to say because it's not hard to shoot a missile at a ship.

[Getty]

Ballistic missiles, they've got over a thousand of them left, according to the latest reports. So they got the ability to fight back. We are going to lose soldiers and I think Trump needs to prepare people for that. Do you have any thoughts that? Text line 415295 KFTC ARMSTRONG and GETTY.

[Armstrong]

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[Michael]

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[Michael]

That's a good point. So next hour, 42% of statistics are invalid, including that one. I thought I comprehended the lies, damn lies and statistics thing. One of the most cited discussed statistics in the last year or two has been that America's Americans optimism about the economy, their feelings about the economy are as low as they've been in X number of years. In spite of the fact that according to a number of indicators, you know, wages and consumer spending and everything else, it ought to be a lot better than that. Wait till I tell you what's probably the reason for that.

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Well, I'd like to hear that because. And I know this is anecdotal, completely anecdotal. I was in Vegas for three days. Town was packed. I knew what I was paying for my hotel room. The place was packed. And with people that don't look wealthy walking the streets and everything, and that town's expensive, it's just, I don't know how that fits in with the most negative economic attitude Americans have had in, you know, 75 years or whatever we're here.

[Michael]

You know, I could argue the K shaped economy, which partially deals with what you're saying, but you'd think you'd notice a downturn.

[Getty]

You would sure think so. And again, this didn't look like people that are on the one leg of the K. Right, Right.

[Michael]

So you're gonna slap yourself in the forehead when you hear this next hour. Seriously, so much of the. Oh my Lord. And we're in this business. So much of the discussion that happens in America is missing something really important, and it's an unbelievable example of that. Join us next hour. If you don't get next hour, you gotta go somewhere or whatever. Grab it by podcast. You ought to subscribe to Armstrong and get you on demand. I myself am going to. And I'm serious. Check out all the interviews Jack did while I was gone with some of our favorite thinkers, because that's all been packaged up super easy for you to get if you subscribe to Armstrong and gettyondemand. In particular, I want to hear Tim Sandifer talking about the. The founding and the nation's birthday and Craig Gotwell's with a fascinating thing on socialized medicine and all. Anyway, so speaking of things that are found online, just very quickly, a great point being made by one of the writers at the New York Post. If you're following the trial of the confused young man who assassinated Charlie Kirk, it is exploding absolutely. Every stupid, effing, Candace Owens conspiracy theory piece of crap that's been flying around online. Absolutely. It should be ending them.

[Getty]

Yeah. Well, the two interesting things that happened if you didn't catch him while you were in Alaska, the trans boyfriend, girlfriend, whatever he was, apparently changed his mind because he was there using a. His original male name and wearing a suit and tie. So I don't know how can. What his convictions were on that lifestyle. And then the. The killer. And this happened so often. Just horrible. Immediately after he did it, he told his trans boyfriend, girlfriend he wished he hadn't.

[Michael]

Right. Yeah. It was a terrible mistake. Oh my God, what have I done? I'm gonna turn myself in. Yeah. And the idea that. Well, and the conspiracy grifters will come up with explanations how the Jews made him. He was Patsy. He was fooled, Erica, blah, blah, blah. The whole cottage industry of like trying to exploit Erica Kirk's grief for fun and profit. These people ought to be lined up against the wall and shot. I don't mean it literally. I abhor violence, but I don't know, sometimes I think about it. Anyway, more to come Armstrong and Gettys

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